Thursday, June 15, 2006

Snakes in the Head



Wiggle 'til it whispers, wiggle 'til it hums,
Wiggle 'til it answers, wiggle 'til it comes. - Bob Dylan


Please note: I remain unable to update the original site, and Blogger is now telling me that this page has the "characteristics of a spam blog," which may be the precursor to my getting locked out of here, too. This is looking like corporate incompetence on a Bushian scale, which is to say, as if.

And if we happen to go under here as well, please refer to the RI board, particularly this thread. Because we'll be somewhere.

And having typed that, I'm anxious to get this posted before I can't. So to get the conversation started in a half-assed fashion, I'm wondering about the imaginal meaning of a recurrent ayahuasca vision and voice.

First, from Jim DeKorne's Psychedelic Shamanism, via this thread on the RI forum:

Immediately I had the vision of a snake wrapping itself around my head. I saw my head open, as if my brain had been cut in half. It looked like the honeycombs of a beehive. Dozens of snakes appeared and began sliding into the tunnels of my brain. At first it felt wonderful, as if an immense power was entering me, but then I wasn't sure that I should let it in. I remembered Julio's warning that some spirits are good, others are evil. I was afraid I was dealing with an evil one. What if it wasn't the spirit of ayahuasca; or if it was, what if it was an awful, dark aspect of it?

I asked the voice what the snakes meant why they had to enter me -- but I didn't get an answer. Part of me thought it was a test. Another part knew that if the snakes disappeared into my brain, I would never get them out. The thought was horrifying.

Suddenly, I knew I had to get those snakes out of my brain. I began pulling them out by their tails. They were strong and hard to dislodge, but the more I fought them the more certain I became that the voice wasn't the real spirit of ayahuasca. It wouldn't have asked to enter me in such a disturbing way. I was fighting for my life. I feared that if I lost I would be enslaved forever.

The moment I got the last snake out, I began to doubt my decision ... I felt that I had failed a test and missed an extraordinary opportunity. I asked the voice why it seemed to be testing me. The voice answered that it had already given me so many gifts that I should have some faith and trust. The voice didn't sound angry or disappointed. It just said I shouldn't ask for so much without giving anything in return. Then it disappeared, and I knew my visions were over for that evening.

Now Peter Gorman, from his exceptional essay "When Ayahuasca Speaks - An Unexpected Venture into Healing":

...on perhaps the most extraordinary ayahuasca journey of all, a journey in which I was forced to confront my deepest fears and most hidden desires, I encountered a voice which asked me why I kept calling it. Thinking I was going crazy I answered that I had not called it, to which the voice said I certainly had, otherwise why was I drinking ayahuasca. Feeling silly that I was talking to myself, and simultaneously terrified that I was actually in conversation with a being that was way beyond my ken, I timidly told it that I was drinking ayahuasca to visit friends in New York, and to fly with birds. The voice responded that those were parlor tricks meant to entice me to return to ayahuasca; that the real reason I returned was to learn things and that the way to learn them was to allow ayahuasca to enter me. At that, my head seemed to split open, as my whole body and being had when Julio and his apprentice sang years ago ,and I watched in horror as a thousand snakes began to enter my brain. I knew that if I didn't get them out I'd be taken over by ayahuasca or whatever evil spirit that was, forever. So I fought with all my life to pull the snakes out and when I'd won the fight I was exhausted.

I didn't mention the experience to Julio for two years, during which I'd visited him but didn't drink. I simply couldn't face that voice again. When I did finally broach the topic he told me the voice was the voice of ayahuasca, that I could ask it for things, like songs to make me strong, or how to learn what plants were good for healing, or to answer questions that were otherwise unanswerable. He assured me that while it was a real spirit, as were many others I might encounter under the influence of ayahuasca, it was only a spirit and couldn't hurt me unless I let it. He also said I was a fool to have pulled the snakes out of my head, that it was a gift from ayahuasca to get snakes in one's head or belly because anyone who had them would always know who their enemies were, from thieves in the city to brujhos, black magic sorcerers, who would try to kill you with invisible arrows.


(Author Daniel Pinchbeck tells me that he, too, has had the snakes enter his head. Though interestingly, "not on ayahuasca - it happened to me one day at home, and had a strange visionary valence to it.")

Snakes and ayahuasca, we've seen, go together like the two halves of a double helix. Kira Salak concludes her recent account of her ayahuasca initiation by shining her flashlight into her vomit bucket: "No. I lean down closer. Steady the beam of light. I catch my breath as I examine the object: A small black snake seems to have materialized from my body."

I can well imagine how, to Western initiates into plant shamanism - even those who've already had the entheogenic elves break and enter their heads - the vision of snakes tunneling into their brains would be enough to make them suddenly doubt the wisdom of their path, and feverishly start yanking them out by their wriggling tails like a psychonautic Samuel L Jackson ("I've had it with these motherfucking snakes in my motherfucking brain!") That's the conditioned reflex determined by centuries of demonizing the figure of the snake, though it has long been regarded elsewhere as representative of humanity's potential power, typically coiled and dormant, known as the Kundalini.

But even in the scriptures of the West, it hasn't all been bad press for the snake. In Matthew 10:16, Jesus says "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."

I hate the term sheeple, because it's almost always arrogantly applied to others. But in a world ruled by wolves, divided between prey and predator, let's get over ourselves: we are the sheep. In fact, if our souls are precious to us, we had better be. But that needn't mean we're what's for breakfast, if we can nurture a serpentine wisdom. And we won't become indistinguishable from our roaring adversary if, at the same time, we can also embrace our doveself.

I'm still skeptic enough to appreciate the caution from Emmanuel Swedenbourg that "when Spirits begin to speak with a man, he must beware that he believes nothing they say." But I've also come to suspect that against the principalities and powers and spiritual wickedness in High Places we have great allies, which are all the same ally, which is Life. Test the spirits, but sometimes it may take a few snakes in the head to see we have friends in high places, too.

69 Comments:

Blogger nunnatsunega said...

Oooooh...you're starting to get close to playing with "Uktena" that powerful and deadly winged serpent who also is a storehouse of crystalline wisdom. (pigeons...or was it doves? and snakes...Kukulkan? Quetzalcoatl? Cadeusus? feathered serpents all)...be xarisful!

Yeah, what a drag we have to do a little work to get to the postings now...well...it's better than a free ride in an orange jump suit...

6/15/2006 07:07:00 AM  
Blogger Dani-el M Smith said...

In his early don Juan books Carlos Castaneda describes his visions while on peyote of "Mescalito"; represented to him as a dog. He is beckoned to play and rolls around for hours in communion with the spirit. Don Juan takes this as a good sign as to castaneda's 'worthiness'.

I get the feeling that animals and spirits/energy regard us humans in much the same way: repulsed by our stupidity yet dazzled by our potential.

6/15/2006 09:40:00 AM  
Anonymous jules said...

Wild post Jeff, I was hanging for it.

I have posted a shitload of stuff in your comments recently, if I am contributing to causing those "characteristics of a spam blog" then I am sorry.

I go thru phases when I have nothing much to say and then I get periods where I can't shut up. Its worth milking them. If it helps I'll cut back a bit and make an effort not to rave.

I reread a fair bit of Wizard of the Upper Amazon today.

I got my shit together a bit for this post, cos there's some gems in this book that might be relevant. Then had a conversation with someone that has just blown me out of the water...

So anyway Manuel rios Cordova was kidnapped by Amahuaca Indians about 100 years ago.

They called themselves Huni Kui. Here's some of their chant Nixi Honi, I assume its the Caapi vine, or whatever its name is.

Nixi Honi vision vine
boding spirit of the forest
origin of our understanding
give up your magic power
to our potion
illuminate our mind
bring us foresight
show us the design
of our enemies
expand our knowledge
expand our understanding
of the forest

And More to the point

Bush with markings of the serpent
give us your leaves
for our potion
bring us favour
of the boa
source of good fortune

Then this

"With the chant of the Boa, a giant constrictor appeared slowly gliding through the forest. Blue lights intensified an intricate design of scroll configurations that seemed to float along the boa's spine. Light flowed from his eyes and tongue. The bold patternson the snakes skin glowed with intense and varied colours.

"I was to later learn that the boa was greatly admired by these Indians for his ability to move silently through the forest and capture other animals. To handle a boa and pass a finger over the outlines of the patterns on his skin brought good luck in hunting. The boa visions, brought on by a special chant, therefore came at the start of all auspicious seances dealing with the hunt. Other snakes followed the great boa - a giant bushmaster, a fer de lance and many more."

That'll do for now on the quotes, BTW the boa chant above is one used during the preperation of the vine. I don't know if its the same one that starts the auspicious hunting seances.

IT was the chant that was used to prepare the vine that they consumed in the session described above. Perhaps different chants are used to prepare different sessions...

Somewhere in the book is something about the Huni Kui considering the boa and the plant to have a special relationship because of their similarities in marking, a bit the doctrine of signatiures I spose.

I am familiar with the snakes and the voice, if you think some of the stuff I post is a bit out there, well what about the stuff I don't.

However Emmanuel Swedenbourg is right on the money. You must know your shit backwards and always be testing the powers, they conform to your will.

there is nothing else, and if your will isn't properly pure, then it probably isn't yours.

They require testing, and prior knowledge of what you are getting into and dealing with. EG The snakes and Ayahuasca, the plant has the traditional characteristics of the boa, in the culture of the Huni Kui. It seems to fit that snake spirits are part of the vision, and part of the process, and belong there.

Mind you what I have just typed isn't justification enough. Its just nearing the beginning of understanding where to start.

If someone told me that and expected me to trust it I would say no thanks, I'll sus it out myself.

Unless they had a lot more cred than some bloke on a blog.

We must constantly test the spirits that serve us, to maintain the highest standards, and ourselves too of course.

Cos we serve too. That ally Jeff was talking about... Life

What did Bob Dylan say? it may be the devil or it may be the lord, but you gotta serve somebody.

BTW if that was a half arsed start Jeff then using your whole arse will win a pulitzer prise or something.

6/15/2006 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous hebrides said...

Good luck with whatever happens. May all your posts find a good new home that keeps them safe.

This entry was quite good. I'm still hoping to see a post dealing with the fallen hero Wilhelm Reich sometime.

Best as always, Jeff.

--hebrides

6/15/2006 10:03:00 AM  
Blogger John Dretzka said...

Jeff,
Even if you get shut out of the internet permanently and are forced to print pamplets in your basement I will still be an avid RI reader.
Keep exploring the para-whatever.

My opinion on todays writing is that it's perfectly sensible to want to keep the snakes out of your head.

6/15/2006 10:12:00 AM  
Blogger Jeff said...

Jules, that was a good note about testing the powers. I've edited the text to echo that.

6/15/2006 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous silly rabbit said...

Morning, Jeff--

What the hell is a spam blog?
A short while ago, I finished reading a book called Pharmako Gnosis: Plant Teachers and the Poison Path, by Dale Pendell. It's the third of a series. To add a bit to what Jules posted, a quote from page 146:
The first thing I learned was that ayahuasca is not a plant at all. It is a large snake, a boa, that lives under the water. One of the grandfathers understood my visions: It is ok that they are not sacred visions, in the way of our people. In the old times there was another ayahuasca, which we call ninahuasca, the Vine of Light. This huasca is now lost. In those days we would drink ayahuasca to kill our enemies. We would drink the huasca and then we would find them and spear them. There was a lot of killing and they drank the ninahuasca to purify themselves.

He writes about the songs used by shamans during ceremonies: "The point of the songs, the icaros, is not to be 'good' in the sense of being in tune, or finished, or sophisticated-- nor that the poetry be complex or accomplished-- the whole point is whether or not the beautiful spirits find them attractive. Many may come, not all invited and not all beautiful."

My aunt, who shares my interests in all things weird, has a theory that the people one occasionally encounters on the streets, muttering and cursing unseen adversaries, may be people who at one time experimented with drugs or the occult, and "opened a door they couldn't close."

6/15/2006 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

I want the snakes in my head. I suppose this is why I have always connected well with people considered "wacked." In order to truly know them, you must provide harbor for the snakes, safe or otherwise. Without the snakes, you are, metaphorically speaking, legally blind.

Speaking of snakes, I have had quite a few dreams in the past several years related to urinating and/or defecating. They all have a common theme: that being, that I can't seem to find a safe, clean and private receptacle in which to relieve myself. The last one had me pissing on a brand new flat screen T.V. I was methodical and precise in where I aimed my stream, so as not to make too much of a mess, and also to avoid compromising the electronic integrity of the device.

Help me, not.

6/15/2006 10:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Dugoboy said...

interesting you thought of the Oroborous. i mentioned it in the ann coulter thread. i thought of the Oroborous last night watching er interview. shes a polarizing figure..

in the last few days i have felt like ive been in a time loop, how about you jeff?

6/15/2006 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous jules said...

Silly rabbit that thing about the underwater boa is interesting. I had a similar experience in that it was underwater, involved a gigantic reptillian thing and the whole experience had large connotations of violence.

I posted as Joe Hillshoist, that particular bit is about half way down.

The book i quoted above is called Wizard of the Upper Amazon - the story of Manuel Cordova-Rios. It is by Bruce F Lamb, tho Lamb basically transcribed Cordova Rios' story

It was published by North Atlantic Books in Berkley Ca.

The book is worth reading for an inside perspective of the ayahuasca use. The author was kidnapped by the tribe, because the old chief had forseen him as the one to succeed him. they basically kidnapped him and prepared him to be the next chief.

The Huni Kui actually didn't call the potion ayahuasca.

the terms used were

Nixi - the vine, seems casual

Nixi Honi - vine whose extract produces visions

Any similarity to Ninahuasca? I couldn't say, possibly but it seems a stretch.

It is also clled Nixi honi xumu
and honi Xuma.

Which are a fair bit closer.

It seems the Huni Kui (meaning true or genuine people, as everyone thinks they are, that in itself says so much about humanity) ... had several names for the vine Nixi being the important bit I think.

However the chief was called Xumu

The vine gatherer was called Nixi Xumu and Nixi Xuma, but mostly just Nixi. he was the old man with the botanical knowledge, but the chief plain old Xumu seemed as mauch a shaman and magician as anyone.

It seems Nixi and Honi refer to the vine and Xumu to a position of leadership or power or perhaps the relationship between the vine and the chief were so strong that his name and the vines were the same as the word for leadership.

Its hard to know where the tribes ego boundaries really ended...

Did they just identify with themselves or the forest and everything in it, as one conscious entity? Hard to say.

Anyway the book is brilliant and reveals levels of sophistication and depth in understanding and using the ayahuasca process to work with the forest and to lead a tribe. Of all the literature I have read on this stuff this is the one book that seems most accurate or "true" in its understanding of what was going on.

I am from the western world and my experiences are way different, so much more disconnected, the is a wholeness and purpose about the use of the vision extract, and its relationship to the people and the forest. I couldn't begin to convey the depth..

6/15/2006 11:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

An update on my defecation/feces dreams. I did a little research, and apparently it's a positive thing.


From here:

http://www.dreamloverinc.com/f.htm#Feces

Feces
Dreams containing feces may be odd but they are not uncommon. Feces represent those things that you no longer need, things that are currently garbage or waste and need to be discarded. This dream may represent healthy psychological progress. It may indicate that you are cleansing yourself of unnecessary and possibly hurtful attitudes, ideas, and emotions. At times, and depending on the details of the dream, feces could represent a contaminated area of your life, mind, or spirit. Look at the details and consider if the image of feces is in regard to something that you have been trying to clean or if it brings up stress provoking thoughts, confusion, and difficult and unresolved areas of your life. In some cultures people believe that if you are dreaming about feces you will soon prosper financially. (Feces in the dream means money in the hand.) See Also: Defecation.


I have to run........I need to pick up that lottery ticket before it's too late.

Oh, in case you didn't notice, I spelled Whacked incorrectly, and I've capitalized it inappropriately here, so call me stupid and disregard everything I've ever said.

6/15/2006 11:51:00 AM  
Blogger Syn Diesel said...

My Vision was a Fractal Neon Krebs Cycle Machine. Anybody else see that? Prolly not.

6/15/2006 11:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Dugoboy,

Can you explain more elaborately what exactly you mean when you say Ann Coulter's the Oroborous?

Thanks.

6/15/2006 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Dugoboy said...

shrubageddon, oh i wasn't saying ann coulter was an Oroborous. i'll cut and paste what i said in the thread.

" think i've figured this moron of a woman out.


#1 - she is an info warrior for the system.

#2 - her job is to push the envelope of what is commonly accepted language

#3 - she reindoctrinates people back into the matrix of control by enthralling the right and giving the left a panic attack because everything she says is so off the wall and has nothing to do with what they really believe, that they must immediately attack her. its kind of like the idea of the Oroborous, slowly the head will completely devour its body. maybe to perpetaute or restart the cycle.

#4 - she is a fascist (idealist) and an elitest. she has no conscience of what she does, has no remorse, and likes the dan quayle quote ' i hold their contempt as a badge of honor.' does this not sound like the most elitist quote ever?"

6/15/2006 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Luposapien said...

Ann Coulter is nothing more than a Rush Limbaugh that the right-wingnuts can masturbate over without having to question their masculinity.

6/15/2006 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damnit! Coulter again.
How much energy is wasted on her?
Henry Rollins did a whole piece on her. Quite funny.

I like the Bill Hicks quote [para]:
"[S]h[e] is a demo[n] sent to lower the standards [of acceptable discourse." Coulter talks about liberals like Hitler talked about the Jews. In fact, I think she cribbed a metaphor from Mein Kampf in one of her books, the notion of liberals, like Jews, as maggots that fester inside the virtuous body politic.

Regarding snakes. Here is a prelude to "The Deathbird," a short story by Harlan Ellison, considered one of the greatest short story writers of the 20th century, if not the greatest.

"[A] rewritten Genesis, advancing the theory that the snake was the good guy and, since God wrote the PR release, Old Snake simply got a lot of bad press."

And what is a snake at the end of the day? Just another living creature with its own evolutionary adaptations, no more, no less. Whoever wrote Genesis might have just as easily picked an alligator, or a mosquito.

6/15/2006 05:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff-

Why don't you call Blogger and complain?

6/15/2006 05:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the crew who wrote (and promoted) Genesis WANTED the serpent out of the picture BECAUSE it held the key to knowledge.

This same Serpent which shows up in various renditions throughout many ENTHEOGEN induced visions.

...but not everyone had access to these vision inducing plants. Usually only the high-priests (precursors to today's corporate and govt. "elites") controlled these substances.

"There is no creature more widely found in the mythologies of the world than snakes. Mythical legends frequently occur in lands where there are no snakes -- such as with the Eskimos who live in the ice bound Arctic. Saint Patrick may have driven the reptile out of Ireland, but his efforts could not cleanse the country of snake legends...."

http://www.apollonius.net/reptiles.html

Food for thought...

6/15/2006 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And another thing. I was looking at a Daily Show clip with Stewart interviewing Ken Mehlman. The GOP elephant logo was in the background. It had three stars. All three had one point facing down and two points facing up. I wonder what that means.

Oh wait.

But we already knew that.

6/15/2006 05:35:00 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

Wow, thanks; I hadn't realized the GOP symbol used three inverted pentagrams.

Here's a conservative blog blaming it upon an infiltration of Satanic Democrats.

6/15/2006 05:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some (not completely) random thoughts from a former Ayahuascero:

Does the continual increase of information always lead to knowledge (information integrated coherently to more accurately describe some aspect of reality)?

What about the path of knowledge to understanding (knowledge from multiple perspectives integrated with experience)?

What about path from understanding (and the humility implied by the embedded preposition in the word) leading to wisdom (integrated understanding which may then wisely guide action)?

Could there be wisdom contained, but perhaps misunderstood, within the prohibition from Genesis?

Remember, it was allowed to eat from the tree of eternal life, but forbidden to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (the furthest Lote (lotus) tree, as also written of in the Qur'an).

Now Luciferians and Satanists seek to use their pseudo-gnosis as a tool to give them eternal life?

Haven't they just gotten the whole damn thing completely backwards??

Perhaps their is wisdom in faith, if not misplaced, and tempered with experience and understanding...

Would you REALLY invite snakes or spirits "into your head" because someone told you it was ok???

Bon chance, mes amis.

You will need it.

Blessings might be more helpful.

The clearest, or most true, or most helpful and instructive indigenous vegetalistas, curanderos/as, shamans et al, whom I have known and with whom I have studied (in North, Central and South America, Asia and Africa, over a period of thirty-five years - I am in my fifties) have all ultimately had faith in, and given all credit to, the One, the Only (known by many names).

Snakes, Lucifer, botox, tetradotoxin were all made by the same One. So was fire and the other elements. Some people eat fire for entertainment. Some people get burned by it. Others cook and are warmed by it.

Wisdom is in knowing what something is good for, how to use it and take care of it, and when something is poison. A little botox can smooth out your wrinkles for a few weeks. But they will come back when it wears off. Too much botox will paralyze your muscles and cause you to die of suffocation.

The universe is full of signs for those who have ears to hear and eyes to see.

All veils are not "meant" to be rent by force.

Some can be lifted more gracefully.

It may be analogous to the difference between the horror of a violent rape, and making love with one's beloved.

The difference between duality, and unity.

Peace,

~Mojo Filter

6/15/2006 07:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Addendum:

to paraphrase the Bozos of Firesign Theatre......

"Sure it's a little like having bees (snakes?) live in your head. But...there they are."

More to the point: What is in your heart?

That is between you and God.

"For God is closer to you than your jugular vein."

[No duality implied there. Au contraire.]

Love,

Mojo

6/15/2006 07:39:00 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

"Wisdom is in knowing what something is good for, how to use it and take care of it, and when something is poison."

Thanks for your wisdom. Good observation re: pseudo-gnosis.

6/15/2006 08:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

And what is a snake at the end of the day? Just another living creature with its own evolutionary adaptations, no more, no less. Whoever wrote Genesis might have just as easily picked an alligator, or a mosquito.

Excellent point.

This is why I like Steinbeck's East of Eden. Hell, I like most, if not all of Steinbeck's material, but East of Eden is my favorite because it recasts the Cain and Abel story in a completely different light. Steinbeck's powerful narrative compels you to empathize with Cal(Cain) and allows you to loathe Aron(Abel).

The serpent is an excellent choice as a symbol of knowledge. The snake is slippery and mysterious, just as is the search for, and acquisition of knowledge. Just when you think you have a firm grasp, it slips through your fingers and slithers away.

Wisdom is learning to adroitly navigate in close enough proximity to the flame to accrue its benefits of luminence and warmth, yet avoid its ability to transfix, blind and burn.

Shunning the snakes is likened to smothering the flame.

Balance is the key.

6/15/2006 08:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another prevalent "archetype" in Ayahuasca experiences, in addition to the snakes and animals are, interestingly enough, UFO's.

It would, however, be tragic, if the entire Ayahuasca tradition, increasingly open to Westerners, becomes marginalized as just another "trip" experience. There has been a lot of press about Ayahuasca recently, with well documented accounts of what happens during the ceremony.

But it is wise to remember that "the map is not the territory".

There was much real, legitimate and practical information that was given to the Shamans and Ayahuascueros. Many, many tribes used this information to survive for thousands of years.

Yet even the powerful Ayahuasca could not protect them from the merciless and unending onslaught of the Europeans.

Interestingly, Ayahuasca does not "take" everyone. There are participants that gain no effects from Ayahuasca, even after multiple tries.

It is as if our increasing expectations are polluting the "ether" even...

6/15/2006 09:15:00 PM  
Anonymous sullymandias said...

Jeff -

Your blog is the only blog I read regularly. You are onto some seriously dangerous truth and I will gladly take in every riff and variation. Wherever you go next, we will find you and keep reading. And even if you were to stop posting entirely, you can know that you have had a tremendously positive and liberating effect on our understanding of the world. Thanks so much!

I think you could take all these blog entries you've written and use them as raw material for an excellent - possibly revolutionary - book. You've worked out the basic ideas in enough detail to put it together with a firm cohesive thesis and well articulated arguments.

In regards to the "takers" who will continue to try to stop you, and harm you - there are defenses for things like that, and they are closely related to some of the material in this blog. They are chi-based and magick. I highly recommend a little investment in the direction of self defensive magic, if you haven't already - a little can go a long way.

Please pardon any presumptuousness on my part in this comment.

6/15/2006 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh, Jeff, regarding that Conservative blog, pretty sure it's satire.

However, the point still stands. Why not just have the stars facing one point up?

These supposed "Christians" are supposed to be hip to this sort of thing, what with their denouncement of Dungeons and Dragons and Heavy Metal. You would think that they would notice something like that.

Maybe I should write a letter to Ken Mehlman . . . .

On second thought, it would be interesting to see if this could be used against them. This would be just the type of triviality their voter base, what with their obsession with flag-burning, would care about.

Food for thought.

6/15/2006 11:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Richard said...

This from Alan Moore's The Moon & Serpent Grand Egyptian Theatre Of Marvels:

Asleep among giant tumbled stones,
eroded & decalcified,
rests Glycon.
Last created of the Roman Gods.
His form is of a serpent.
Taller than a man when risen up.
With human ears & nostrils,
lidded chinks for eyes.
His golden hair in ringlets
curling from his scalp.

Proceed with caution.
This is old power
& the idea of a God
A real idea.

His dry cheek sleeping flat against cold rock.
He waits the vital hot of dawn
even to think...even to think....
No gap between sun
& that reason which it represents.
The parched air oiled with myrrh.
A depthless, lidless dark before awakening,
but pinlit, scented, pearled in thousands.

Naked brainstem
Arid spine of lightening
fossil stripes the white dunes outside time.
His belly filled with understanding,
jewel & poison.
Call Him...
Say, "Sweet One."
Say, "Master."
Call him father of the garden.
Shivered warmth of scale half felt inside us.
Whispered brush & slither winds the cortex.
Fixed eye mad & needle sparked with figment
Flickering kiss & hair of sticky gold
It rears against the raw of noon
& knows with slitted gaze
when are we breathless in the coils of God.

6/16/2006 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Picking up the kundalini thread in this discussion, along with the wasca snake in the garden of eden theme.....Question:

Could "the farthest Lotus tree" in the Koranic garden of eden story be the Sahasrara chakra, the 1,000 petalled lotus above the crown of the head? Clearly the farthest lotus in the kundalini tree, no?

6/16/2006 05:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please!
Everyone listen to this.
This story works for me.
Tell me what you think...
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=101

6/16/2006 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous jules said...

"Another prevalent "archetype" in Ayahuasca experiences, in addition to the snakes and animals are, interestingly enough, UFO's."

UFO's are not mentioned once during Cordova Rios' book. In that book the Huni Kui's understanding of the forest, curing and the vision extract were akin to that of someone who is a genious with computer hardware, understands circuits and currents and even simple mechanical stuff, to such a level that he can fix the telly with a clothes peg and a Tonka Trunk.

IE so far beyond what anyone I know has ever really considered as possible.

Mojo your post was awesome.

The one, the only - far to big for any book.

Ultimately we all serve something.

Information -> Knowledge -> Understanding -> Wisdom.


Humility is very important

We all serve something.

Everything we do serves something.

And I would hope there is nothing in my heart that could get between me and God.

So hear I am somewhere between knowledge and understanding , a lot closer to the first.

Snakes are no big deal. Treat them with respect and if they are venomous and a threat to your family that is seriously unacceptable, or trying to bite you, then you kill them.

I have seen a red belly black snake curled up sunning itself in my garden, my black cat was curled up asleep next to it. They were less than a foot apart.

Even in Eden if they tell you to do something it doesn't mean you should.

But in this context I think we are moving away from something that I feel is more relevant than the tree of knowledge of good and evil. You don't to eat fruit to know that. Its written in the stars and the shape of the land you walk on.

And in that tiny piece of organic polymer that hangs out in your cells.

How about that, isn't it the tree of eternal life as well?

That thing we call DNA so we don't have to think about its implications.

Perhaps you can have one or the other? But not both.

I dunno. This makes me wonder.

One thing that really spun me out, well surprised me a bit, wasn't the snakes I encountered on my salvia, mushroom and spontaneous trips.

It was the Shuggoths.

6/16/2006 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous jules said...

For all the knowledge that the Huni Kui gained about the forest and working together and whatever else.

To me it seemed there were some fundamental aspects of their life that ... I wouldn't have done things that way.

Its now, with a bit of age and rereading the book I think that, cos there were just a few things in there that made me think "If you know so much as a tribal leader why would you do that?" Its so childish (not childlike). But then thats a specific story.

And it happened to the leader (Xumu) while he was young. It seemed he spent the rest of his life reflecting on that mistake...

I guess I am saying all the ayahuasca in the world won't save you if you don't have some integrity and the self discipline to maintain it.

6/16/2006 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Luposapien said...

All very intersting stuff. Anon 2:05's comment about the possible connection of the 'Farthest Lotus Tree' with the crown chakra rings true to me. It's easy to get caught up in the Literal when you start talking about things like snakes in the brain.

I'm sceptical of thinking about these kinds of experiences as an actual connection to some 'Spirit' that resides outside of us (though I wouldn't completely discount it). It seems as likely to me that what is being experienced is an awakening to something that is already inside, just lying dormant.

It's common to hear someone say that people don't opperate on instinct the way that other animals do, or that we've lost many of our instincts. I don't buy into that. More likely that the instinct are still there, just under the surface, but have been stamped down by the constant barrage of cultural conditioning. The visions stike me as a way that our conscious, 'reality' grounded brains make sense of the reactivation of these dormant abilities or instincts. I've read a lot that connects these images of intertwined snakes with the double-helix of DNA, and this ties in with various theories on genetic memory. Anyway, I feel like I'm ranmbling here, but yall probably understand what I'm getting at.

Oh, and I feel like I need to apologize for my immature outburst on Ann Coulter earlier. Falling into the trap, it seems...

6/16/2006 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous jules said...

I know this is a little left field and clinging to the edge of the topic by the fingernails, but I am on a quest for the grail right now and I came across this:

"In strict terms the original Star Fire was the lunar essence of the Goddess, but, even in an everyday mundane environment, menstruum contains the most valuable endocrinal secretions, especially those of the pineal and pituitary glands. The brain's pineal gland in particular was directly associated with the Tree of Life, for this tiny gland was said to secrete the very essence of active longevity, called soma, or, as the Greeks called it, ambrosia."

Bikers call it the red badge of courage BTW

EMPHARSIS:
>>The brain's pineal gland in particular was directly associated with the Tree of Life, for this tiny gland was said to secrete the very essence of active longevity, called soma, or, as the Greeks called it, ambrosia.<<

This bits interesting too. But only just compared to that last bit.

"In pictorial representation, the Messianic Dragon bore little relation to the winged, fire-breathing beast of later Western mythology. It was, in essence, a large-jawed serpent with four legs, very much like a crocodile or a monitor. This was the sacred Messeh whose name was 'Draco'. Draco was a divine emblem of the Egyptian Pharaohs, a symbol of the Egyptian Therapeutate, of the Essenes at Qumran, and was the Bistea Neptunis (the sea serpent) of the descendant Merovingian Fisher-Kings in Europe."

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/starfire1.html

6/16/2006 11:34:00 AM  
Blogger Scott Rassbach said...

I've always liked that quote: I send you as sheep among the wolves.

Of course, some of us are lambs, and some are rams...

6/16/2006 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Luposapien said...

Jules: Thanks for the link to that Nexus article. Somehow that site had not yet made it into my bookmarks....

6/16/2006 12:08:00 PM  
Anonymous prunes said...

The clearest, or most true, or most helpful and instructive indigenous vegetalistas, curanderos/as, shamans et al, whom I have known and with whom I have studied (in North, Central and South America, Asia and Africa, over a period of thirty-five years - I am in my fifties) have all ultimately had faith in, and given all credit to, the One, the Only (known by many names).

This is a truly universal phenomenon. The One is known by all peoples in all lands in all times. Its nature is such that it can be described in any number of exoterically contradictory ways without being inaccurate.

Remember when the apostle Paul went to the town with an statue dedicated to an "unknown God?" Paul knew to what this idol had originally been built.

The Guarani worshiped a God called Tupá, meaning, "Who are you?"

Compare and contrast with Jehovah or "I AM."

Our old Friend, our sustainer and ally.

Check out Thomas Vauhan's writings, he lays the alchemy out as plainly as anyone has ever done. Or actually sit down and read Plotinus, these guys are not speaking obscurely, if we have the humility and patience to listen to what they are telling us!

6/16/2006 12:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Our old Friend, our sustainer and ally."

They tried to fool the whole population
By telling them Jah Jah dead
And they tried to fool the whole population
By telling them that Jah Jah dead...
I & i knows -
Jah no dead
Jah no dead

6/16/2006 12:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Gary said...

Jeff,

this is not intended as an insult in anyway but it is a thought that struck me about you (and Tim Boucher) but how much longer (if ever) until you cross the line from objective Academic Investigator to experiencer where entheogens are concerned?

I realize this is more than a bit personal and I don't truly anticpate a reply but I am curious because a wise man once said, "Cowardice in the name of objectivity is a characteristic of most Academics".

Case in point- an anthroplogist at a big league university once received a small pouch of a nameless material that a shaman had given him while doing research in the field. This "primitive" shaman and his people assured him that should he use the material in the bag in the prescribed manner he would be rendered invisible to both friend and foe alike. The anthropologist dutiful took the gift and brought to his office when finally returning home from his studies. Years later, when relaying the story to a friend he was asked, "Well, did it work?" To which the anthropologist said, "I never tried it out."

Just a thought. Great post, btw, as usual.

6/16/2006 12:57:00 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

"Cowardice in the name of objectivity is a characteristic of most Academics".

I won't call it by any other name: it's simple cowardice. As best as I can know myself, I don't think it would be wise for me to invite such a shattering experience. Believe me, I appreciate the disconnect, but since shamanism's not for mere dabbling it's not something for which I feel sufficiently prepared.

6/16/2006 01:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Richard said...

Slight topic shift to a snake of a different type.
This from bartcop.com:

"In other news: my friend is friends of a girl who was as normal as can be, joined the army to pay
for college, and returned after 6 mos in Iraq as a convoy driver. She's now full of more ticks that a Timex.

She blinks constantly, clears her throat every 5 - 10 seconds, talks really fast, and is basically a nervous wreck.
She said she can count the number of days they WEREN'T shot at on one hand, with fingers left over.
Took her a month after she came back before she stopped swerving around manhole covers,
and reaching for her weapon every time a car passed her on the freeway.

He asked her what the very worst part of the whole thing was, and you'll never guess what she said:

The fear of rape from US troops.

Says it's VERY common, but nobody talks about it, and that it's fueled by the supply
of forbidden liquor supplied by contractors (read; Halliburton, KB&R, etc.)"

Ah yes, more frat style hijinks from those heroic boys in red, white & blue.
I guess that long days spent shooting kids in the back of the head really helps to work up a massive boner.
So, if there weren't any women in the service, would these fine upstanding young warriors spend their down time fucking the fresh bullet holes of their victims?
Maybe this is why women like Lynnie England were such enthusiastic participants in Abu Ghraib....they figured out that boys getting their jollies out of shoving lightsticks up prisoners asses will be less likely to shove their semen sticks in them.

Just a thought.

6/16/2006 03:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

That's why I luv ya, Richard.

You don't hold back. You're bluntly honest and forthright, and your thoughts aren't couched in political correctness.

And, you sting, and I like Sting.

I was once stung over a hundred times when I fell off my bike into a bee's nest. I swelled up all over, but all my sister could think about was concocting a story to tell our parents when we got home so she didn't get in trouble.

I'm glad I wasn't allegic to bees, or else I never would have been able to tell you how much I like your sting.

6/16/2006 03:56:00 PM  
Anonymous luposapien said...

Regarding the off-topic topic of the 'frat style hijinks' over in the colonies, there's this story from a little while back about female soldiers who ended up getting dehydrated (some dying as a result) because they wouldn't drink liquids too late in the day, out of fear of being raped by their male comrads on the way to the latrines. Of course, standard operating procedure, they tried to sweep it under the rug, but I guess there's not much room under there anymore...

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/31584/

6/16/2006 05:18:00 PM  
Anonymous jules said...

>>Actually, there is nothing strange about not naming the deity directly, and traditional doctrine regards the Supreme Identity as unnamable precisely by virtue of its supracosmic essence, which is subject to no determination and hence to no name.<<

Thats from the Gaurami/Indoamerican site.

Its interesting that the diety is considered unnamable and when it allows to power to be percieved in a particular manifestation in specific circumstances a name is used, possibly this has more to do with the process being described.

IE this name for God isn't actually a name for God, but a name for what the Divine does in relation to these specific circumstances. As this is all we can say about it IN THESE PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES.

I also found the Vaghaunn article on the Mountain interesting ... Cheers

(Eskimo Joe song on the box at the moment, its called Black Fingernails Red wine

Chorus -"The arguements over God continue....")

"I won't call it by any other name: it's simple cowardice. As best as I can know myself, I don't think it would be wise for me to invite such a shattering experience. Believe me, I appreciate the disconnect, but since shamanism's not for mere dabbling it's not something for which I feel sufficiently prepared. "

Its good to know yourself and your limits. Its also good to try and go beyond them but not if your are not confident and ready.

I fell into psychedelic shamanism or whatever you want to call our half arsed Western attempts at the cconcept, but unconsciously I had been preparing for them all my life. And when I got to know those things that are hard to describe, it felt more like a reunion than a meeting for the first time. That thing knew me and were waiting.

Luposapien, as intersting as that Gardiner grail article is there are many bits of it that I dunno about he seems to construct his arguments and his evidence ...

I dunno to convienient or something. I dunno. I find it hard to take the Annukai arguement that seriously...

6/16/2006 08:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Dugoboy said...

very close to the truth. its almost blinding. hehe.

6/16/2006 10:39:00 PM  
Anonymous jules said...

"It was fully recognised that the prominent gene of the succession was carried within the blood of the mother. Today we call this the 'mitochondrial DNA'. And so was born a tradition inherited by their kingly descendants in Egypt and by the later Celtic rulers of Europe. True kingship, it was maintained, was transferred through the female, and so kingly marriages were strategically cemented with maternal half-sisters or first cousins."

"We can now progress our story by considering the oldest Grant of Arms in sovereign history - a Grant of Arms which denoted the Messianic Dragon Bloodline for all time. The Sumerians referred to this insignia as the Gra-al. Sounds familiar, doesn't it? From biblical history, however, we know it better as the 'Mark of Cain'."

"The records explain that the central staff and entwined serpents represent the spinal cord and the sensory nervous system. The two uppermost wings signify the brain's lateral ventricular structures. Between these wings, above the spinal column, is shown the small central node of the pineal gland.

The combination of the central pineal and its lateral wings has long been referred to as the 'Swan', and in Grail lore (as in some yogic circles) the Swan is emblematic of the fully enlightened being. This is the ultimate realm of consciousness achieved by the mediaeval Knights of the Swan, as epitomised by such chivalric figures as Perceval and Lohengrin."

Not that into gardiner, however its interesting to note the connection between Serpants, DNA, Spiralling Kundalini and a cult called the Order of the dragon.

Of course the next (il)logical step from here is to David Icke....

I'm not going there.

6/16/2006 10:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Pop Occulture said...

"Characteristics of a spam blog" means that the algorithms of the Empire can no longer process the information signal that you are transmitting. You have become invisible to it. When something falls off the mechanical radar like that it reverts to emergency shut-down mode. Which I think may actually be the only way to dismantle the whole device, is to get it to recognize itself as a virus and attack itself at the root. .. Which may be just what we're seeing nowadays.

Another good snake story comes from legends surrounding St. John. While at Ephesus, someone gave him a poisoned chalice of wine to drink. He blessed the wine and the poison transformed into a serpent and slithered out.

Then there's also Moses' crucified serpent (saraph) with rich Alchemical and Gnostic tones.

6/16/2006 11:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Richard said...

To Mr. geddon:

Thank you for the kind words sir . Regarding my apparent lack of political correctness, I can only put it down to 2 things...

...since nothing political seems to ever ever ever have anything whatsoever to do with what's correct, isn't the phrase "political correctness" an oxymoron? Y'know, I may be a moron, but I'm not a contrary moron.

Or...

...my parents exercised extreme presentiment by naming me Richard since they obviously knew I'd grow up to be a dick.

6/16/2006 11:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh son...

"I've had it with these motherfucking snakes in my motherfucking brain!"

I was an invalid for an hour after reading that. I've long tickled myself by thinking about the motherfuckin prophecy of the boy that brings balance to the motherfuckin force, so it was doubly funny to hear the same thing coming out of someone else.

6/17/2006 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I checked out this Laurance (Chauncy?) Gardner dude.

He's a smooth talker/writer, but in just one web page of his I found so many blatant factual errors it made my head spin.

He says the pineal is the only unpaired structure in the human brain, apparently oblivious to the Hypothalamus, the Infundibulum, and the Pituitary which sit at the base of the brain and in the Sella Turcica of the base of the skull near the optic chiasm. These unpaired brain structures only happen to control via releasing and inhibiting factors and neuroendocrine hormones like pro-opiomelanocortin almost every major chemical process in the human body, such as reproduction, kidney function, thyroid function, adrenal function, and on and on.

He mistakes the lateral ventricles, which are fluid filled spaces, for the white and grey matter of the cerebral hemispheres.

Not minor errors, to say the least.

His etymology is even more suspect than than his psuedo neuroscience.

He just makes it up as he goes along, taking cognate sounds from one language and millenium and lining them up with another cognate sound from another era in time and space, between languages that aren't even remotely in the same linguistic family, and simply asserts they are the same word with the same meaning. He does this in virtually every paragraph, for pages and pages. It is utter nonsense.

Like any effective disinformation specialist, he mixes in enough fact to make it appealing to anyone who wants to be gullible enough to believe him, but he is pulling most of it straight out of his own "eye of Horus", thank you very much.

According to him, Sodom and Gomorrah were centers of great erudition and learning. Okay then.

It's not difficult to discern his agenda.

Here's another view of him, perhaps a bit unbridled, but probably more or less accurate in the broader strokes:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/laurencegardnershapeshifter.shtml

While I don't at all subscribe to the literality of David Icke's alien reptile thing....I'd call it a spiritual metaphor from a guy who perhaps couldn't process his ayahuasca experiences fully.......he's often right on the facts, months or years before events are revealed in the media.

So...as always...caveat lector.

6/17/2006 03:01:00 AM  
Anonymous silverfox said...

“the Devil inside...
the Devil inside...
every single one of us
the Devil inside...” - INXS


If the content of these postings is any indication, the somewhat primitive symbolism of the snake or serpent would seem to be very much alive and well...hmmm? LOL

But the level of inquiry that is genuinely needed to understand the real mystique that surrounds it or what it happens to say about us that we can so easily fall prey to its allure is hardly going to be revealed by simply wallowing in it.

There are plenty of examples without adding any of our own to the already enormous tally. The more pertinent question just happens to be why we’re so very quickly inclined to?

The suppressed wellspring of thoughts, feelings and associations attached to the imagery of the snake or serpent are long overdue for the clear light of day and some rational discussion... if we dare!

God, (presuming that there is one), has suppressed exactly nothing in creation, least of all man or serpent. Both were more than adequately endowed to explore the nature of their existence and add their own particular dimension to the overall quality that makes it worth living.

Any notions of suppression, repression, or enslavement, be it to baseless fears or simply base ones are all artificial concepts of our own contrivance.

They have far more to do with what we fear about ourselves in the here and now than what any god might ostensibly do to us in some hereafter for simply dreaming them up.

The snake has become a symbolic reference for everything about ourselves we deliberately choose to hide from ourselves. Things we fearfully believe we are somehow better off not knowing despite being only too well aware of them.

We banish them to the depths of the murky waters we’ve made of our subconscious only to have them frighten us in dreams or unsuspecting moments… the sudden appearance of a sea serpent in the tranquil waters we floated off to sleep on... or the sudden threat of some snake in the grass beside us to spoil a summer daydream...hmmm?

All the disturbing and disquieting thoughts that come unbidden, not despite all our efforts to disown or disavow them but precisely because we insist on trying to.

The greater our intellectual efforts to ignore them the wilder and more bizarre forms they take on simply to get our attention. The truth be told we have no idea if any of those beiefs about ourselves are true or not, the overwhelming fear that they might be seems to be sufficient...hmmm?

Yet if “evil” can be said to have any pre-requisites the presence of fear and ignorance or the lack of constructive channels to properly release quite natural human desires and inclinations has to be acknowledged.

Reason is all we have to overcome the fear and ignorance that leads to evil. That fear and ignorance isn't "out there" somewhere either.

Those particular devils are very much "inside" each and every one of us.

6/17/2006 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On female mitochondrial DNA:

From the Gardener quote:

"It was fully recognised that the prominent gene of the succession was carried within the blood of the mother. Today we call this the 'mitochondrial DNA'. And so was born a tradition inherited by their kingly descendants in Egypt and by the later Celtic rulers of Europe. True kingship, it was maintained, was transferred through the female, and so kingly marriages were strategically cemented with maternal half-sisters or first cousins."

The Jewish link or nexus involves these groups (Celts and Egyptians)--and it would make an interesting genetic-cultural argument for such a stress on matriliny in rulership in all three: they shared mitochondrial DNA echo in the traditional definition of being ethnically Jewish (or really, Egyptian). Jewish are descent of the mother only, or you're out.

Well, if all these separate 'groups' have Egyptian/Jewish links, then it's hardly surprising. (Read some Bushby on this for instance, or the second of the BBC's invesigative 'intiution' team Beigent, Lincoln, and Leigh in their follow up book _The Messianic Legacy (for the Celts issue). Or perhaps _The Book of Hiram (for the Egyptian/Phoenecian/Sumerian).

And of course there is much on the genetic Jewish linkages of much "European" royalty families, historically, and their various occult dealings.

So, originally if true, Jews were out of Egypt, then it fits? And "Moses?" Just who the hell was he anyway? Renegade Egyptian royal? Or was this the movement of the 'single god of Egypt religion' Aten, under Akenaten (sp?) associated worshipers. Do they all later move out and get mixed up over the centuries with the Phoencian astral worship as well, and the roving tribals inland?

I seriously think that with the whole holographic construct of reality here, vibrations, and what not, that to dismiss shapeshifting reptiles keeping track of themselves, inbreeding, and conserving some special mitochondrial DNA--simply because its 'Ickey'--is intellectual cowardice...and I don't have to be a shaman to see it here. You can't veto the potential of shapeshifting reptilians if you are going to hold to a theory of the holographic universe and of mentally/frequency constructed reality.

6/17/2006 07:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

congratulations for re-establishing the blog.

My Jewish comment on what jesus said, would be to watch whether his own advice helped him avoid the trappings of the PTB of his time. Snakes are medicine, and it was Moses who placed a snake on his magic wand, to heal the sick and perform good magic. Snake is knowledge.
watch out for regression into a "trip" rather than addressing a problem that might yield to rational action such as making "Blogger" assume responsibility, so that their space is safe for all of us, in the future.

6/17/2006 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous jules said...

Wow this thread is going off.

Today I played me first game in 8 months, played like shit but thats irrelevent, the vibe that I am still surfing and the 10 beers and concussion may help but thissss is brilliant.

Richard you are ok, have you got aussie ancestors? you have a sense of .. the ability to the take the piss out of yourself I don't associate with americans. Perhaps your contry's admin (and mine sadly) could do with more of this.

anon1201

Thank you for expressing so eloquently all of the misgivings I was unable to. You hit the nail on the head.

"I'd call it a spiritual metaphor from a guy who perhaps couldn't process his ayahuasca experiences fully."

My thoughts exactly. And the other bit. One of the reasons i'll never write him off totally was the headline on his site the day Dubya first got elected.

"Another Cocaine Snorting Liar in the White House."

Silverfox, another coll post.

"The snake has become a symbolic reference for everything about ourselves we deliberately choose to hide from ourselves. Things we fearfully believe we are somehow better off not knowing despite being only too well aware of them."

On that note, and considering the majority of posters on the blog are male, well thats what it seems to me, I'd just like to remind us that we all have trouser snakes.

>>Yet if “evil” can be said to have any pre-requisites the presence of fear and ignorance or the lack of constructive channels to properly release quite natural human desires and inclinations has to be acknowledged.

Reason is all we have to overcome the fear and ignorance that leads to evil. That fear and ignorance isn't "out there" somewhere either.

Those particular devils are very much "inside" each and every one of us.<<

So true, Micheal ventura once wrote that we can't be sure of much, but one thing we can be sure of is that every soul (including Bush, Cheney and their handlers, funny word that "handlers") is torn wounded and in need of healing.

I haven't read much great lit, but I'll bet "the Death of Frank Sinatra" finds its way into the list of great American novels. If it hasn't already.

That jewish thing is pretty hard to approach without raising some people's prejudice's (including mine) and those prejudices seem to be evenly distributed between pro andsd anti jew)

Prejudice ... sound it out. the whole concept is steeped in difficulty.

But historically that stuff is so interesting.

My footy player mate with the screw loose (literally) in his head is a Khazar Jew. Any bastard says anything nasty about him to my face will wear it.

I have a T shirt with a school crossing sign, a bomb with the star of David on it heading to it and the words "Palestinian Children, some don't even make it to school."

My evil Khazar Jew mate Zen has seen it, and loved it.

I always get edgy when I see the word "jew" on a conspiracy blog.

Having said all that.

Israel

Is Ra El?

matriarchy is well established in aust'n indigenous culture and in Indian (from India) culture.

Deeply, these cultures have aspects that are strongly matrilineal.

Its not just the DNA tho, that reflects the world, Gaia (f), the mother of us all. Perhaps the best snake metaphor in all this is trying to trace the path of a snakes body from head to tail when it is curled up asleep.

Not that easy to follow. it takes some work.

6/17/2006 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On June 19th -- next Monday -- over 4,000 government workers are participating in the largest ever evacuation drill of the DC Metro area.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/02/AR2006060201410.html

6/17/2006 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Whilst I welcome snakes in the head, whatever the hell that means, I do not advocate Witch Doctors in the Neck. I'm strictly against that, and I feel it should be avoided at all costs.

For more information on this predicament, see this:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077904/

Evil does not die... It waits to be re-born!


Richard,

You are quite welcome about the kind words, and I think your comments were not off-topic. Afterall, we were talking about snakes, and your presentation of male soldiers raping female soldiers in Iraq comes under that heading for the very reason Jules has asserted......the trouser snake, or semen stick, as you say.

In regards to the term Political Correctness, I see your point about it being an oxymoron, however, I take correctness not to mean correct in absolute terms, but rather as correct in regards to the boundaries as defined by politics. Either way, you're not one to rely on euphemisms to hide your disdain, and I admire and respect that.

Oh, and your parents naming you Richard was perhaps an uncoscious endeavor to set you up as the antithesis to Nixon.....you know, kinda like the Un-Dick.

6/17/2006 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK Sports Fans, try this on for size. Hu-man consciousness is, as always, continuing to evolve. But it goes through phases.

Currently, Uranus ruler of Aquarius is in Pisces, whose ruler, Neptune, is in Aquarius. This is called "mutual reception" in traditional Astological babble. Millions of young "individuals" are walking around lost in their ipod spaces.....

Assuming that the 'planets' are symbols of active energies and that Uranus represents the energy of individuality/independence within group consciousness and that Neptune indicates this energy sort of turned inside out, or the fact that all individuals are inescapably part of the wholeness of existence, then the mass interconnectedness of so many independent minds/hearts/souls via the emerging techKNOWlogy we find so prevalent at this time is just a completely natural and normal progression of 'life.'

If consciousness (of the hu(wo)man ilk) is indeed evolving and "ESPish" powers for masses are on the horizon, then soon, with thought sharing and mind connectedness becoming realities, SECRETS/LIES/SUBVERSIONS will not be possible! This of course is of it's self a somewhat "spooky" scenario for many! "Mind Blowing" you might say!

We might just be in the throes of the last ditch efforts by the PTB -and our own fears and insecurities- that are attempting to prevent this next step in the spark's advancement toward whatever it is that is beyond our current comprehensive capabilities.

The PTB's actions may be nothing more than a dying mode of consciousness's attempt to prevent it's own extension. A death rattle?

Also, more on point, the snake is the middle symbol for the sign of Scorpio. The least evolved of this 'type' (which only relates on an emotional level) is represented by the Scorpion, which stings itself if it can't sting it's enemy, while a more evolved Scorpio, (which has learned to think and gather knowledge) is represented by a snake. But thoughts do not represent the "end point" as shown by the Many (snakes in the brain) Headed Hydra - cut one off and ten grow back. And finally, a fully evolved Scorpio, one that has learned LOVE, is represented by the Phoenix, having been transformed and purified by fire.

ok, back to the world cup.

6/17/2006 01:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Kenneth LaFave said...

This business with Blogger has me upset. For what reason has the site been frozen? I mean, what reason did Blogger give to freeze it? And what is a "spam blog" site and how does the new address qualify? This all sounds like excuses on the part of Blogger, which is out to shut down (or try to shut down) a blog that makes them politically uncomfortable. Glad I started a blog at Typepad instead!

6/17/2006 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous jules said...

This film coming out is called snakes on a plane.

It stars Samuel L Jackson. A little caduces like symbol.

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/film/559

>>If consciousness (of the hu(wo)man ilk) is indeed evolving and "ESPish" powers for masses are on the horizon, then soon, with thought sharing and mind connectedness becoming realities, SECRETS/LIES/SUBVERSIONS will not be possible! This of course is of it's self a somewhat "spooky" scenario for many! "Mind Blowing" you might say!<<

Is it? Perhaps, humans are evolving, at least in the west. Kids are bigger than they were, there is that hearing frequency change, which I haven't actually found a link to yet.

Mind growing, perhaps?

Personally I think those abilities are always available to humans, but like everything else, they need development. Like any skills they need practise and more practise. However at the same time it does seem as if people around here are starting to click on to this stuff.

Taking more notice of the incidents of precog or esp. Perhaps thats cos its happening more, or perhaps there is a change in the air that allows people to accept these capabilities in themselves.

Then again a world without deciet... That would be good.

Gardiner talks about the Pheonix, in the context of the OTO, and the Mass of the Pheonix. Which i jsut sex then a 69 I think. Brain activity during sex... Hmmm

Being a scorpio myself, and having watched Scorpio rise over the hill just east of here, I have often got the impression of an eagle or a pheonix. From the ashes...

Aussies v Brazil tonight. Bring em on.

Aussies 3 2 I reckon, (I picked Japan 3 1 ) If I get this one right, I wonder if I can hassle that james randi.

6/17/2006 08:48:00 PM  
Anonymous jules said...

>>We then describe some recent work that systematically applies methods of statitsical linguistics to compare coding and noncoding DNA. Specifically, we adapt to DNA a form of $n$-tuple frequency analysis, and the Shannon approach to quantifying the ``redundancy'' of a linguistic text in terms of a measurable entropy function [4]. We also discuss the many subtleties and possible pitfalls of our approach [5].<<

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~goel/Workshop97/AbsRefsHES619.html

Snake, tree of knowledge; non coding DNA and linguistic tests.

"When I did finally broach the topic he told me the voice was the voice of ayahuasca, that I could ask it for things, like songs to make me strong, or how to learn what plants were good for healing, or to answer questions that were otherwise unanswerable... ...that it was a gift from ayahuasca to get snakes in one's head or belly because anyone who had them would always know who their enemies were, from thieves in the city to brujhos, black magic sorcerers, who would try to kill you with invisible arrows."

(BTW Jeff I just checked tyhe Samuel L Jackson link in your op. Doh)

Just looking into the skin of Crotalus durissus durissus, a rattler from the Yucatan.

6/18/2006 01:04:00 AM  
Anonymous humblenotry said...

Remember James Earl Jones in the movie "Conan The Barbarian." The ultimate demi god chief snake priest? Maybe portraying the Jesuit General. As with Jerome Bettis of the Pittsburg Steelers, and Saddam Hussein, James Earl Jones received the keys to Detroit, MI. Saddam Hussein received the keys through the Chaldean Catholic Church in Detroit. Looks clear that Saddam has strong ties with the Jesuits. Maybe a Knights of Malta and James Earl Jones connection too.

In the book of Exodus Aaron cast down his rod before the Pharaoh and his wise men and it became a serpent. Interestingly the Hebrew word is thaunin which means crocodile. This serpent of God swallowed up the serpents that the Egyptians manifested and delivered the first blow to the gods of Egypt. After this the Nile river,which was an object of worship, was polluted. God's serpent must have been a magnificent object to those Egyptians in the court of Pharaoh.

Imagine the thought of a hundred people lining up in a church to confess their faults and share concerns with one man called a priest. This priest is hidden in a private chamber. He is also molesting several of the parents children who enter into another chamber enjoined to his during these confessionals. Communicating through a small hole in a wall between them, and ALL of the village people's are instructed to call him father.

Even so, all the people go to one man to confess and share their concerns. They rarely do this with each other and get choked up when sharing with the priest man. Now he knows a lot of the affairs going on in the village. It's like he's got them under his thumb. The only difference is that we never get a chance to see him transmutate into a snake on the altar like James Earl Jones. He may only do this in his private chamber or bedroom.

6/18/2006 04:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that bit about mitochondrial dna and inheritence reminds me of how among the fundamentalist mormons who still practice polygamy women are not allow to marry outside the group but men are allowed to marry out.

6/18/2006 06:01:00 AM  
Anonymous col quisp said...

One time I tried salvia divinorum and my curtains turned into snakes.

I just read something in the second Sinister Forces about the snake in the garden of eden being the real god, who gave us wisdom. Interesting post!

6/18/2006 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous luposapien said...

Jules and Anon 12:01,

Thanks for the warnings about the Gardner essays, but don't worry, I'm not about to swallow it whole. I'm tend to be fairly suspicious of literalists, and not very fond of the royalist 'holy blood lines' crapola, wether they claim their authority comes from a supernatural god, or gene splicing aliens. I'm no expert on biology or etymology, but even so, it was pretty clear that he was less than Rigorous in his connection of the dots.

6/19/2006 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gee people all this talk about snakes, yet ya'll seem to forget Genesis 3:15. that's where true wisdom lies

6/19/2006 04:22:00 PM  
Blogger anji said...

I had many dreams of snakes as a child. I used to dream of waking to find my bed filled with snakes - very powerful stuff.

I write poetry via streams of consciousness and would like to share one with you:

Forbidden to touch
Forbidden to see
The smell was lost
when I drank too hot tea

Hearing is what is left
I must take it off
the shelf an cultivate
deregulate
illuminate
that last gift again

When I hear internally
it awakens
opens eyes
enhances olifactory
sparks my hands and feet

Alas, what I was missing
again is complete
Eden has always been
right here, my friend
that Snake is your spine

6/20/2006 07:33:00 AM  
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