Monday, October 30, 2006

Nearly There



Sorry for the interruption; I'm working on a new post that will be up today, I promise, even if I have to upload it mid-sentence.

Still rundown here, and trying to take care of myself. On top of which, our furnace has been out for a week and tag-teams of repair crews haven't been able to fix it. I can't get any heat to my office - we have space heaters, but in this part of the house they throw the breakers - and I'm tired of being cold.

Back soon.

35 Comments:

Anonymous postrchild said...

frost bite schmost bite.....we want a post! Well Jeff I happen to be in the line of work that you are needing....should I dispatch a couple of technicians up your way? Can you type up your post in a warm location and then upload it later? Just a thought.....

10/30/2006 09:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Billy Shears said...

Have you considered one of those gas (kerosene?) indoor heaters? they work really well and dont use up any electricity...

I await your post with bated breath.

10/30/2006 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Hang in there, Jeffrey. As you know, it is fixin to get real warm, real fast. Just ask Al Gore and Tony Blair.....they're sounding the trumpets again....but all I hear is the Sound of Silence.

From here:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6404741


from The Associated Press

LONDON October 30, 2006, 7:07 a.m. ET · Unchecked global warming will devastate the world economy on the scale of the world wars and the Great Depression, a major British report said Monday.

British Treasury chief Gordon Brown, who commissioned the report, said former Vice President Al Gore, who has dedicated much time to warning of the effects of global warming, would advise the British government on climate change.

Introducing the report, British Prime Minister Tony Blair said unabated climate change would eventually cost the world between 5 percent and 20 percent of global gross domestic product each year.

He called for "bold and decisive action" to cut carbon dioxide emissions and stem the worst of the temperature rise.

The report is expected to increase pressure on the Bush administration -- which never approved the Kyoto Protocol climate-change accord -- to step up its efforts to fight global warming.

Report author Sir Nicholas Stern, a senior government economist, said that acting now to cut greenhouse gas emissions would cost about 1 percent of global GDP each year.

"The evidence shows that ignoring climate change will eventually damage economic growth," said Stern's 700-page report, an effort to quantify the economic cost of climate change.

"Our actions over the coming decades could create risks of major disruption to economic and social activity, later in this century and in the next, on a scale similar to those associated with the great wars and the economic depression of the first half of the 20th century," he added.

Blair said the scientific community agrees that the world is warming, and that greenhouse gas emissions are largely to blame.

"It is not in doubt that if the science is right, the consequences for our planet are literally disastrous," he said. "This disaster is not set to happen in some science fiction future many years ahead, but in our lifetime."

"Unless we act now ... these consequences, disastrous as they are, will be irreversible," he added.

Stern said the world must shift to a "low-carbon global economy" through measures including taxation, regulation of greenhouse gas emissions and carbon dioxide emission trading.

Under the 1997 Kyoto accord, 35 industrialized nations committed to reducing emissions by an average 5 percent below 1990 levels by 2012.

But Britain is one of only a handful of industrialized nations whose greenhouse gas emissions have fallen in the last decade and a half, the United Nations said Monday.

The U.N. said Germany's emissions dropped 17 percent between 1990 and 2004, Britain's by 14 percent and France's by almost 1 percent. Overall, there was a 2.4 percent rise in emissions by 41 industrialized nations.

Brown said Britain would lead the international effort against climate change, establishing "an economy that is both pro-growth and pro-green."

He called for Europe to cut its carbon dioxide emissions by 30 percent by 2020 and 60 percent by 2050.

The British government is considering new "green taxes" on cheap airline flights, fuel and high-emission vehicles.



Anybody want to take a stab at the angle that's being played here? Surely there's an angle, right? If Blair and Bush work for the same Masters, what's with the Good Cop/Bad Cop routine when it comes to this subject? I want to believe that Blair and Gore are being magnanimous, but I know that's not the case.

Also, can we discuss it without resorting to the Freemason, Illuminati, International Banker Cut & Paste Routine. In your own concise and to-the-point words, please.

10/30/2006 09:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Billy Shears said...
Have you considered one of those gas (kerosene?) indoor heaters? they work really well and dont use up any electricity...

I await your post with bated breath.


Maybe we can pass around the collection basket and come up with $3,700 for a .........

(Please fill in the rest)

10/30/2006 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Billy Shears said...

This is what I was talking about... However, it won't clean up nuclear waste or weld things together with a flame cool enough to put your hand through.

10/30/2006 09:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Billy, thanks for the link, but do you think that would be prudent considering the damage inflicted on the World Trade Center by Kerosene? I mean, if it could weaken steel beams to the point of collapse, imagine the damage it could inflict on human flesh and bone. Jeff would have to spray he and his loved ones with that fire proof material that was coating the steel beams of the North and South Towers prior to being blasted off by the jet's impact.

10/30/2006 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous humblenotry said...

Ah, the light at the end of the tunnel. A scientist in Norway has come up with a recipe that guarantees the best tasting cow manure burgers on the planet yesterday. The possibilities with waste are truely endless.

I think one of the angles shrubageddon is the military industrial complex's responsibility for global warming, ozone layer destruction, the Van Allen Belts destruction, ionosphere testing, chemtrails, and the sophistication of the beam wave technology of the military that destroys the environment. This angle is never spoken about in the mainstream press. And I say humbly don't forget the denial of the harmful effects of Depleted Uranium. Also as a dust speck on a dust speck in the universe I like to point out the scientific debate of the harmful effects of DDT. 80 million dead so far in third world countries since the ban on DDT. The scientific community is divided on whether or not to support Rachel Carsons conclusions and this deadly ban. Money talks and scientists listen. Depleted Uranium is not harmful but Dichloro-Diphenyl-Trichloroethane (DDT) is. thanks Wikipedia for your definition.

Yeah human manure has been a favorite for prisoners to eat in many camps around the world. A sure way to starve inmates to death. They did serve the German civilian prisoners in Denmark human waste in soups mixed with rats after World War II. Very depressing indeed.

And there is blame on the Nile River contributing to global warming. The Nile River believe it or not is dying. This is due to the Aswan Dam in Egypt. Built by the military dictator Nassar. The one who also built the world's largest man made lake, Lake Nasser. Commercial fishing in Egpyt is extinct. This is also not talked about much. Another military tie to global warming.

Get well soon Jeff.

10/30/2006 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

humblenotry said...

I think one of the angles shrubageddon is the military industrial complex's responsibility for global warming, ozone layer destruction, the Van Allen Belts destruction, ionosphere testing, chemtrails, and the sophistication of the beam wave technology of the military that destroys the environment.



Well, the link below indicates that the Airforce plans to expand their Tanker line of aircraft, and the usual suspects are vying for the contract. Are they really vying for the contract.....or has that been predetermined....and the appearance of such is just a ruse?

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/09/28/100bus_alabama001.cfm

10/30/2006 10:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Have any of you heard about Scott Adams' (The creator of Dilbert)bizarre affliction? It's called spasmodic dysphonia. Here's a link discussing it:

http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/topnews/wpn-60-20060309GoogleSavedDilbert.html

I wonder if it's the same thing with which RFK Jr. is afflicted? Have you ever heard him talk? He sounds like Katherine Hepburn on Air America's Ring of Fire.

Conspiratorially speaking, could it be Military Industrial Technology at play? I mean, Dilbert is not in the best interests of the Corporate Overlords and RFK is a pesky little twit who appears to pet the fur in the opposite direction. And......don't forget Sinatra who was a big Democrat.....he just loved JFK.

10/30/2006 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous mondo said...

They're "playing" with the weather up your way pretty bad from what I hear. Alan Watt of "Cutting Through the Matrix" has been busy building an ark and Gary "the Spaceman" Bell is still hammering away at the ignorant Canuck hockey lugheads on A View from Space. Load up on your anti-viral holistics.

10/30/2006 11:12:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

The curious thing about the politicians finally (talking about) doing something about climate change, specifically greenhouse gas emissions, is that the solutions are contrary to their interests, insofar as they're whoring themselves to the current industrial/economic model's owners. For example, if 45 % of those greenhouse gases are a result of the gross stupidity of architecture as it's practiced, and if it's true that anything that is made from hydrocarbons can be made from carbohydrates, then addressing the problem of climate change by switching to the sustainable models of architecture & industry is going to cut the floor out from underneath the power structure we've come to fear and loathe.

The conversion of our shitty architecture to the sustainable model will also, inadvertantly, demolish the gated community surrounded by sea of slums/endless suburban sprawl/concrete urban blight landscape. Neighbors will emerge from their greenroof domiciles, ride the free public transport to their jobs reclaiming the industrial waste of the bad old days, and conversation will be inevitable. With the re-emergence and de-nazification of chemurgy and the reversal of the policies set in motion by the low, dishonest decade, geo-petro-politics will die the quiet death of all fruitless, pointless struggles.

This will all occur because as you make our architecture more efficient (80-100% energy savings), you conserve resources while simultaneously raising living standards and educational standards (and opportunity), which in turn leads to a better informed, less easily deceived public. The wasteful and oppressive economy of scarcity will be relegated to museum displays...and what will the old Powers That Were do with all that time on their hands? Some of them, like the CIA's Woolsey, are already jumping on the new bandwagon, which could be an attempt to clear their bad names (self-de-nazification), while others continue to play the holdout bad cops: is it all just theater?

10/30/2006 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous rocco32 said...

humblenotery, I'm glad you brought up the subject. I have been fascinated with all this mil-indus-complex space lasers for years. Mae Brussell was adamant that the MIC has been using these lasers to cause brush fires (probably by the UNESCO and NATO crowd)since 1986. Between her exposing Lt. Col Aquino and his SRA pedophilia in satanland Northern California, to these Reagan "Star Wars" weapons, I think one or both caused her to get the CIA's favorite Jack Ruby fast-acting cancer blend.

I recommend anyone who hasn't checked out Brussell's work on this subject to
check it out.

10/30/2006 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous starroute said...

Detour, there's a muddy road ahead
Detour, paid no mind to what it said
Detour, oh these bitter things I find
Should have read that detour sign


Shrub, what RFK Jr. has is something that tightens up the vocal chords. A friend of mine has it too -- they treat it with botox, but it still leaves a certain raspiness. Very different from what Scott Adams is suffering from.

IC -- I like the idea of the "de-nazification of chemurgy." Can you tell us more?

I've been growing increasingly aware that it's no coincidence the Rockefellers and the DuPonts were in it together in the 30's -- that the oil industry and the chemical industry are joined at the hip (along with the arms industry.) But the idea that there might be a philosophical basis to it -- a bastardization of chemistry that permits it to treat the natural world in a denatured fashion -- is new to me. I'm interested.

10/30/2006 12:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

IC,

Before the latest South Beach/Atkins craze, we did the Carbohydrate thing....and everybody plumped up like little piggies.

I enjoy potatoes, pasta and doughnuts as much as the next person, but if we created an economy around those staples, we would all die of Type II Diabetes.

Fondly,

Shrubageddon

10/30/2006 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Shrub, what RFK Jr. has is something that tightens up the vocal chords. A friend of mine has it too -- they treat it with botox, but it still leaves a certain raspiness. Very different from what Scott Adams is suffering from.

Either way, you have to admit it sounds sexy....in a Jack Klugman kind of way.

10/30/2006 12:40:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Shrub,
Very funny, in a serious sort of way. I've never experimented with dieting, and while my experimentation with naturally-occurring compounds is extensive, if not systematic, I've no direct connection with the carbohydrate group.

Starroute,
The story of chemurgy is a fascinating and bizarre one indeed. A good primer is the link I gave to Dr. Dave's Low Dishonest Decade essay, although the U of Manchester is working on it as well. It's a weird story because it goes back to the creation of the petroleum dependent world and now that this model is crashing, many people are wondering how it all got started in the first place. The very brief synopsis is that we had a choice, just before WWII, as to which road we would go down: the hydrocarbon (petroleum) highway, with its wars of access & control and subsequent environmental degradation, or the carbohydrate path (chemurgy--George Washington Carver's science of refined agricultural products.)

The weirdness steps in (and I really wish Jeff would look into this, as it's a Rigorous story of the first magnitude, with all its strange connections, deceptions and front- and bagmen) when the bad guys appear to split ranks, some nazi types supporting chemurgy, while other petrol-chemical titans lobbied hard for the adoption of the petrol economy. Read Dr. Dave's essay and you'll see what I mean. It's almost as if (cynicism warning) the nazi types who backed chemurgy did so in order to discredit it. This is what reminded me of Woolsey's unexpected hemp activism--I mean, how weird is that?

To make the story even more deeply weird and inextricably connected to the foundations of the world as we know it and the hijinks of high weirdness, some of the bad guys posing as good guys were the same ones behind the aborted White House Putsch (the Smedly Butler story) and the routing of the Bonus Army, the WWI veterans who camped outside the white House seeking redress from Herbert Hoover, the original compassionate conservative. Hoover sent MacArthur, Patton, and Eisenhower to demolish the shanty town, and more importantly, the idea that citizens can petition their government for any redress whatsoever.

The following excerpt from a really great, source-heavy page that Chris Floyd and Jules Archer put together describes so many parallels to today that it's as if nothing at all has changed in the intervening 75 years:

The coup de grâce to Hoover's career was delivered in June 1932, by his own hand. A "bonus army" of thousands of tired unemployed veterans and their families arrived that month in Washington demanding a federal bonus promised them by law, but not payable until the 1940s. They had traveled thousands of miles in battered jalopies, trucks, and wagons; many had even walked. And when Hoover wouldn't even receive them, they pitched tents, erected shacks, and slept in the capital's parks to petition Congress. As soon as Congress adjourned after refusing to grant the marchers any relief, Hoover made a show of force. On July 28 a police attempt to evict some of the squatters resulted in the killing of two veterans. Hoover then called in the Army. Army Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur, who described the marchers as "a mob & animated by the essence of revolution," delayed the use of troops only long enough to have his swagger stick and medal covered uniform arrive from a nearby fort.


Aided by Colonel Dwight D. Eisenhower and Major George Patton, MacArthur ordered tanks, four troops of cavalry with drawn sabers, and a column of steel helmeted infantry with fixed bayonets to enter downtown Washington and advance on the unarmed veterans. From Pennsylvania Avenue, MacArthur's proud army marched across the Anacostia bridge, thousands of veterans and their wives and children fleeing before them, and advanced on their shanty village, lobbing tear gas bombs and setting its shacks and tents afire. An infant died from the tear gas, an 11-year-old boy was blinded for life, and many veterans were wounded. MacArthur responding to a reporter's claim of having seen a cavalryman use his saber to slash off a veteran's ear, explained, somewhat amused, that that was quite impossible. "You don't slash with a saber," he told the press, "you lunge." And striking the correct pose for photographers, he demonstrated the proper thrust.


That night, from the windows of the White House's Lincoln Room, Hoover watched the red glow from the burning camps in the southeast and retired. The next day the press was informed "the President was pleased."


Such crude brutality only spurred desertions already underway in Hoover's ranks, even among leading Republicans." [2]

The reality of the "armed insurrectionists" was far from the manufactured perceptions spread by the interests associated with the wealthy DuPont Empires and the like that Herbert Hoover represented. The newspapers knew it, the average American citizen knew it and the Elite knew it. It would seem everyone knew the reality. The elite whose interests were threatened by any unification of the "consumers", those Americans of the non-working class were painting the propaganda presentation to be made to the gullible however.


Some room for questioning the constitutionality of Hoover sending in the U.S. Army to abuse American Veterans exists. The deployment of U.S. Armed Forces against American Citizens had been made illegal by the Constitution as a result of the abuses of the Crown heads of the British Empire and the redcoats in revolutionary and pre-Revolutionary times. But this guarantee is only a paper prohibition of little effect in determining the actions of the elite at any time. 1932 or 1970 it matters little.


The Washington police had earned Herbert Hoover's anger by feeding the bonus marchers. It is a clear statement as to what the mindset of the elite was concerning hunger and need to be wrathful towards a police force feeding people in need. All this was before the militarization of the police forces of this nation, in the days when a policeman was respected and served as a peace officer. A friend of the citizenry, not an enforcer and protector for the gated communities of the elites and their own selfish interests as the police have become in this century.


Therefore, the U.S. Army was the only force left, Washington D.C. had no National Guard. The supposed armed insurrectionists were quite different than the portrayed caricatures circulating in the boardrooms of the elite firms and banks.

"The bonus marchers were unarmed, had expelled radicals from their ranks, and despite their evident hunger weren't even panhandling openly. They seemed too weak to be a menace. Drew Pearson, a thirty-four year old Baltimore Sun reporter, described them as "ragged, weary and pathetic," with "no hope on their faces." Increasingly the BEF [Bonus Expeditionary Force] vigil had become an exercise in endurance. A health department inspector described the camp's sanitary conditions as "extremely bad." Makeshift commissaries depended largely upon charity. Truckloads of food arrived from friends in Des Moines and Camden, New Jersey; a hundred loaves of bread were being shipped each day from a sympathetic baker; one thousand pies came from another; the Veterans of Foreign Wars sent $500, and the bonus marchers raised another $2500 by staging boxing bouts among themselves in Griffith Stadium. The administration was doing virtually nothing - Washington police had aroused Hoover's wrath by feeding the District's uninvited guests bread, coffee and stew at six cents a day&"[3]

It is clear what six cents a day could do, or what the payment in advance of the $500 bonus could have done. It was not however the money or the hunger that was problematic, it was the open unification of American veterans in a common cause to exercise the guaranteed right to seek the redress of grievance that was seen as the problem. How dare the "rabble" think they could do such a thing? That is a dangerous thing, a very threatening state of affairs to the status quo empowering the wealthy.
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So now it's all come full circle--the events of the 1930s have finally caught up with us, and it's high time we revisit all of it, from the institutionalization of American fascism (including all the topics Jeff has covered here concerning Gladio, high-profile assassinations, etc, etc.) to the great wrong turn we made when we adopted the DuPont economy over the Carver economy. Chemurgy is making a comeback, although whether having Woolsey as its spokesman is a good idea or just shades of how it was crushed the first time around is anybody's guess.

10/30/2006 02:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Mojo Workout said...

Spasmodic dysphonia is what both RFK, Jr. and Scott Adams of Dilbert fame are afflicted with. Yes, it is treated with botox. See the article in the Washington Post this weekend for details.

10/30/2006 02:04:00 PM  
Blogger greengaruda said...

As New Yorkers recently turned up more human remains at Ground Zero, I was wondering about something: I've still not heard a good explanation for how the core(s) of the WTC seemingly vaporized into thin air in the wake of each collapse (in some footage you can see the ghostly spires just fade to dust as the dust settles). Some things I've read seem to point convincingly to some sort of hydrogen or nuclear detonation in the basements, basically raising the temperatures of the core(s) to several thousand degrees and causing their failure. Would the same explosions not have exposed the buildings' occupants to radiation? Could you take readings on the remains of a 9/11 victim? Could that not prove once and for all that something fishy happened that day?

10/30/2006 02:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The truth is that if the Neocons came right out and admitted 911 was an inside job, which basically anyone who can read and has half a brain understood sometime ago, most people in the good old USA would care less i.e. not much would happen different from how things are right now and where we are heading.

Take a good look around. This country's people are basically fat, extremely selfish, stupid, television addicts, who see themselves as "religious" -- in a support the troops with a ribbon while praising the fighting jesus kind of way. They consider themselves the "good" people of the planet while their "government" has been engaging in overt and covert mass murder for nearly all of the last 50+ years - - they could not care less.

Until something directly, and I mean DIRECTLY - - like getting hit on the head with a 2x4, impacts them - - such as when the economy does finally crash and burn and they are hungry and cold and facing HOMELAND SECURITY head on, they really have no interest past the next ball game, beer and/or porno flick and have no compassion for anyone esle's pain next door much less elsewhere in the world . . . Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh are not abberations, nor is FOX News channel, they represent and reflect back the majority of ugly Americans . . .

10/30/2006 02:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Hmmmm....thanks, Mojo. That was purely a guess on my part....and not a half bad one, if I may say so myself.

But then......I've always been a connector of dots.

Starroute,

Where'd you get your info.......or should I say, disinfo?

(((((Just Kidding)))))

10/30/2006 02:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Anonymous said...


2:28 PM ,


I couldn't agree with you more.....and, I have stated the same a number of times here, in similar fashion.

Of course, I've been told that I'm a no-good pessimist, and that people are basically good, and they're all just being hoodwinked and they will come through.

Uh Huh....

10/30/2006 02:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Finally, divine justice for the jackasses who have cell phones attached to their heads all day long. Guess what, you douchebags? You're no longer Virile.

Here's the link:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=412179&in_page_id=1770

Of ourse, the caveat is that positive correlation is not necessarily cause and effect, but it's enough for me to thumb my nose at the self-important pricks.

Put the God-Damned Cell Phones away, for Christ's Sake and pay attention to what the fuck is going on around you.

10/30/2006 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Mojo Workout said...

Why, in a nation of over 300 million souls, would anyone think that they could ALL be characterized as good, thoughtful, caring, ready-to-stand up-and-act-righteously when the time comes, OR alternatively, as all being fat, stupid, lazy, tv-addicted slobs?

Isn't that called prejudice, or bigotry, or something along those lines? To characterize an entire people as all sharing the same positive or negative attributes is surely the sign of a lack of depth of thought, at the very least. At worst, it is the stuff of which demagoguery is made.

Surely things are vastly more complex than that.

10/30/2006 02:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

I all fairness, Mojo, Anony did say "most people." Granted, that is an ambiguous term that could be interpreted several different ways. For example, it could mean the majority fo people, which is 50.00001%, or greater.

I think it's more like 75-90% of people in the U.S. have the attitude Anony described....but certainly not ALL.

10/30/2006 02:58:00 PM  
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10/30/2006 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Back from where? Did they send him off to camp for Reconditioning?

I don't think I'll tune in...instead, I'll listen to NPR and try to ferret out the Truth....if there's any such thing.

10/30/2006 03:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1.

"Have you considered one of those gas (kerosene?) indoor heaters? they work really well and dont use up any electricity..."

In a small closed room, a kerosene heater will burn out all the oxygen while you sleep and kill you.

Invest in a zero point energy device (a "MEG") that could be used as a space heater, patented in 2003.

Kerosene and giving away free lamps that only would burn kerosene is how ol John D. Rockefeller Senior made his consumer based money by the way. Lock in their technological usage (and ban other technologies that use different materials), and then their material usage is required. Sit back. Collect wealth without competition of other technology/material complexes that you have effectively outlawed.

2.

"Also, can we discuss it without resorting to the Freemason, Illuminati, International Banker Cut & Paste Routine. In your own concise and to-the-point words, please."

Don't be flippant. Particularly solidly for the past 100 years, "it" is the Freemason, Illuminati, International Banker Cult--and you left out the Sabbateans and the OTO infiltrated Roman Catholic Church. And so passe: it's no longer the Freemasons (which have been completely dominated by the Illuminati for, oh, I'd say ever since the start of the 20th century, when the OTO came in). Moreover, British global Freemasonry rewritten by the Duke of Sussex (brother[?] to King George I) who got himself inserted into it to do so in the early 1800s. Then Illuminist Albert Pike rewrote the Scottish Rite by the 1870s.

If you want to know what Masonry was before Illuminati infiltration, I suggest you read The Book of Hiram (2005), particularly part two of the book. Even though it can be (I think successfully) argued that the Illuminati came out of revolutionary Masonry, its a world of difference--sort of like claiming that the totalitarian USSR was communist in institutional practice, when it was only communist in ideology...

3.

starroute writes:

"I've been growing increasingly aware that it's no coincidence the Rockefellers and the DuPonts were in it together in the 30's -- that the oil industry and the chemical industry are joined at the hip (along with the arms industry.) But the idea that there might be a philosophical basis to it -- a bastardization of chemistry that permits it to treat the natural world in a denatured fashion -- is new to me. I'm interested."

...and...

IC wrote:

Starroute,
The story of chemurgy is a fascinating and bizarre one indeed.


Another interesting read is The Secret History of Lead, published in the Nation several years back, let's see...

article | posted March 2, 2000 (March 20, 2000 issue)
The Secret History of Lead: Special Report
Jamie Lincoln Kitman

Research support was provided by the Investigative Fund of The Nation Institute.

The next time you pull the family barge in for a fill-up, check it out: The gas pumps read "Unleaded."

You might reasonably suppose this is because naturally occurring lead has been thoughtfully removed from the gasoline. But you would be wrong.

There is no lead in gasoline unless somebody puts it there.

And, a little more than seventy-five years ago, some of America's leading corporations--General Motors [Duponts bought up huge chunk of GM for a while to control it, and inserted "their man" Sloan as CEO], Du Pont [the Duponts of course here twice over] and [Rockefellers] Standard Oil of New Jersey (known nowadays as Exxon)--were that somebody.

They got together and put lead, a known poison, into gasoline, for profit.


Lead was outlawed as an automotive gasoline additive in this country in 1986--more than sixty years after its introduction--to enable the use of emissions-reducing catalytic converters in cars (which are contaminated and rendered useless by lead) and to address the myriad health and safety concerns that have shadowed the toxic additive from its first, tentative appearance on US roads in the twenties, through a period of international ubiquity only recently ending.

Since the virtual disappearance of leaded gas in the United States (it's still sold for use in propeller airplanes), the mean blood-lead level of the American population has declined more than 75 percent.

A 1985 EPA study estimated that as many as 5,000 Americans died annually from lead-related heart disease prior to the country's lead phaseout. According to a 1988 report to Congress on childhood lead poisoning in America by the government's Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, one can estimate that the blood-lead levels of up to 2 million children were reduced every year to below toxic levels between 1970 and 1987 as leaded gasoline use was reduced.

From that report and elsewhere, one can conservatively estimate that a total of about 68 million young children had toxic exposures to lead from gasoline from 1927 to 1987.

How did lead get into gasoline in the first place?

And why is leaded gas still being sold in the Third World, Eastern Europe and elsewhere?

Recently uncovered documents from the archives of the aforementioned industrial behemoths and the US government, a new skein of academic research and a careful reading of that long-ago period's historical record, as well as dozens of interviews conducted by The Nation, tell the true story of leaded gasoline, a sad and sordid commercial venture that would tiptoe its way quietly into the black hole of history if the captains of industry were to have their way.

But the story must be recounted now.

The leaded gas adventurers have profitably polluted the world on a grand scale and, in the process, have provided a model for the asbestos, tobacco, pesticide and nuclear power industries, and other twentieth-century corporate bad actors, for evading clear evidence that their products are harmful by hiding behind the [false] mantle of scientific uncertainty.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20000320/kitman

So read on lead, then it's easier to have something to compare to if you want to know more about the others.

Follow-ups: "Amplification," June 19, 2000 and letters exchanges: "Lead--Balloons and Bouquets," May 15, and "Lead-Letter Office," July 3, 2000.

4.

greengaruda wrote:

"Some things I've read seem to point convincingly to some sort of hydrogen or nuclear detonation in the basements,...Would the same explosions not have exposed the buildings' occupants to radiation? Could you take readings on the remains of a 9/11 victim?

Everything you wanted to ask though were afraid to know.

Yes, they used a micronuke in 1993 in the WTC.

Yes, they used a micronuke in 2001 in the WTC.

Yes, they used a DU tipped weapon of some kind at the Pentagon.

(There was even radiological evidence at Murrah in 1995, particuarly the radioactive dead dogs. Murrah building 'site' was sealed in concrete, interestingly enough...).

EPA verified the radiological evidence at the Pentagon.

And Boeing let it slip that "they never used DU on the 757 or 767 as wing stablizers", so ergo, no 767 at Penatgon either obviously.

Besides, if you have to be told that a 16 foot hole can "dissapear and vaporize" all convenient 767 evidence, I have a bridge to sell you.

# Wayne Madsen reports WTC victims suffer from radiation poisoning.
02:12 Sep-13

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The US Government's Usage of a Hydrogen Bomb at WTC

09:40 Sep-28 (5 comments)

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More Than Thermate: Evidence for Micronuke Basement WTC Demolitions, Radiation at Pentagon

Date: 2006.06.28 07:49
Description: summary list of the radiological evidence for WTC controlled demolitions AND Pentagon hit

They've been using radiological terrorism in England and the United States for over 15 years on their own populations.

Wake up... Another micronuke one went off accidentally it seems at the Baghdad ammunition dump that the Iraqi freedom fighters took out.

These can be pretty radiologically clean, except for the short term alpha.

The Israelis at Diamona presumably helped the U.S. "perfect" a cleaner smaller nuke. (That's one of the rationales why Sabbateans who run the Israeli war machine and Isarel are so angry at Mordechai Vanunu for ratting on them.)

10/30/2006 04:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Billy Shears said...

anon 4:56pm said (among other things):
"In a small closed room, a kerosene heater will burn out all the oxygen while you sleep and kill you."

Yes, only if that room is completely air-tight. If that was the case, then just being in that room with the door closed would eventually kill you.

10/30/2006 06:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there any public domain information on these micronukes, or is all info only available at places like Portland Indymedia?

10/30/2006 07:48:00 PM  
Anonymous starroute said...

IC -

Interesting article. I do know most of the political part of it (my mother used to tell me about the Bonus Army and Father Coughlin and such as bedtime stories when I was little, since she was never very good at fairy tales), but the interplay of that with chemurgy is largely new to me.

It makes sense, though. I know that in science fiction, from about 1930 to 1940 there was a general assumption that the oil was running out. It was only when the Saudi oilfields were first tapped in the late 30's -- and then came fully online after World War II -- that the fully oil-based world we know came into existence, and that people started acting as though it would last forever.

It isn't just the science that needs denazifying, though. Looking back at the early 20th century, it seems as though the fascists had grabbed hold of the romantic, organic, and occult end of things while the socialists had staked an exclusive claim to rationalism, cosmopolitanism, and glass-and-steel visions of a utopian future. Neither vision had much room for actual human beings, of course, but both had elements that we've lost in the 21st century and could use to reclaim.

A revival of utopian dreams -- but shorn of the machine aesthetic -- and also of a sense of operating within a larger organic and spiritual world -- but without the crude tribalism and fears of pollution -- could serve us nicely in our present dilemma.

10/30/2006 09:04:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

starroute,
That was as apt a description of the competing aesthetics of the two utopias as I've seen. In Dr. Dave's essay, which, again, I find remarkable, he makes the point as distinctly as possible that Hale's weakness lies in his propensity to endorse social engineering of a fascist stripe--the naturalistic impulse you describe the Nazis as (mis)appropriating--not in the science behind chemurgy. I have a collection of very obscure prewar German textbooks, including a number of German language novels and cultural primers written for export to the US, which capture the spirit of those times so unselfconsciously that it's like a an honest window into them, despite the heavy propaganda value sewn into many of the later volumes.

There's one called Hannelore Erlebt die Großstadt that has a young girl from the Swabian hinterland spending a semester with her big city cousins in 1930 Stuttgart, where she naturally finds out all about anthroposophy, Rudolf Steiner, primitive holism, (holistic primitivism?) and the real meaning of the Wandervögel (this is a link I think you'll enjoy). The author, Clara Horath, had no idea that she was spreading fascist propaganda, but was simply, even unintentionally, capturing the zeitgeist, which was full of that kind of thinking, all of which was an outgrowth of that irrational strain of German romanticism.

The trick for us, as you again rightly indicate, is how to take the eco-fascism out while preserving the germ of the idea. One way in which this might be done is by stressing the tradition of Native American agricultural materials usage and another is the influence of George Washington Carver, a truly under-appreciated genius who obviously didn't fit any racial theories of the desperate '30s. The fact is, however, that people like Hale, often called the father of modern chemurgy and who was seriously addled by nutty Nazi ideas, and Henry Ford, who made tremendous strides in the pursuit of a carbohydrate industrial economy and was even more insane in that odious direction, both made very significant contributions.

Even more puzzling is the role that Wall Street played in backing chemurgy, unless one sees a cynical self-interest in independence from foreign oil, or a more destructive program of sabotage through infiltration. This is why Woolsey's hemp activism makes me so nervous...

Unless, and this is really reaching, chemurgy is the one thing that everyone can finally get behind--an enlightened, reciprocal altruism based on the natural harmony vibe. Finally, there's apparently still a strong German competition to American efforts at reviving chemurgy, since the Germans hold many patents on carbohydrate refinement processes, as seen in the hemp, soybean, and other natural components that the German auto industry is promoting but not sharing the recipe for, which is very strange indeed. Didn't we pretty much help ourselves to all their chemical patents in the postwar Paperclip party?

Well, it's a complex and extremely important area of inquiry and hopefully--dammit, Jeff, are you listening?--our host will one day dive into this long overdue and yet still very timely subject, seeing as how we are headed for several looming cliff edges at once on account of the wrong turn we took 70 years ago...

10/31/2006 01:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Starroute,

I've noticed you have taken the time and given the courtesy to respond to IC, but you seem to have overlooked my question to you. Where did you get your information which you used as the basis to dismiss my inquiry about RFK having the same affliction as Scott Adams?

Regards,

Shrubageddon

10/31/2006 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous starroute said...

Shrub -

I didn't mean to snub you, just assumed I'd been mistaken and you were correcting me.

I've always had the impression both that my friend's problem is a physical one in the vocal chords -- not a failure of brain processing, which Adams' is described as being -- and also that it's the same as RFK Jr.'s. But I could easily be wrong on either account.

11/01/2006 12:36:00 AM  
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