Thursday, October 19, 2006

Necromocracy (Part Two)



"I have to question whether there is an evil force in the world and whether or not I have been influenced by it." - Jeffrey Dahmer.

Much like Gilles de Rais, the sixteenth century Hungarian Countess Elizabeth Bathory is notorious for tearing apart young children to satisfy her sex-magical appetite. Her taste was for girls, more than 600 of them, and she was able to consume so many of them because it was only late in her career that she turned her desires to the daughters of her own kind. Down the hill, beneath her castle, villagers had "often claimed to have heard screams emanating from within this place, and they spoke of disappearing girls and of murder, but no one had dared approach the regal, 50-something countess until now. Word had come to the king that she had kidnapped or killed nine girls from good families."

Naturally she'd had help. Servants and hirelings were employed in abduction and torture, including Elizabeth's own childhood nurse Ilona Joo, who admitted to having killed 50 girls by her own hand. Some claimed to have been forced to act against their will, and some others instructed their mistress in black magic. ("Thorko has taught me a lovely new one," she wrote her husband, Ferencz Nadasdy. "Catch a black hen and beat it to death with a white cane. Keep the blood and smear a little of it on your enemy. If you get no chance to smear it on his body, obtain one of his garments and smear it.")

Twenty-one judges tried Bathory and her accomplices, though in deference to her station she was accused of simple criminal acts, while her common help faced the more scandalous charges of vampirism, witchcraft and occult ritual. They were convicted and tortured, then beheaded or burned alive, but Bathory was again protected by her class and its cognitive dissonance at the atrocities of nobility. She did not even receive a formal decision of guilt, but was under "castle arrest" for the rest of her life, its entrances and windows walled up except for food and circulation. The court declared a life sentence suitable so she could "find time to repent."

Four hundred years later, Bathory remains one of pop culture's favourite monsters, and her name evocative of decadant aristocrats playing at sex and death. Yet her husband, who predeceased her by ten years before the revelation of her crimes, died with even more blood on his hands, but is remembered as something else.

In 1578 Nadasky became the chief commander of Hungary's armies in its war against the Turks, who called him "the Black Prince" on account of both his bravery and his cruelty. (For instance, It's reported that when his troops captured the village of Urmisz he instructed that its priest be beheaded and its women and children raped and burned alive.) Nadasky was notorious for his imaginative methods of torture, which he shared with his apprenticing wife, but his "excesses" were on the battlefield against Muslim invaders and their allies, rather than in the comfort of home against his "own kind," and that's a distinction that is usually enough to tell a national hero from a homicidal maniac.

The sixteenth century seems so long ago we might as well be talking of a different planet and a different species, but we're not, and it's still us. If we had film from the time to view, rather than oil paintings and engravings, we'd recognize ourselves more readily. (Elizabeth's uncle was the famous Stephen Bathory, King of Poland, who hosted occultist-spy John Dee and his scrier Edward Kelly on their visit to the continent. Dee's Enochian magick, relaunched into the world by Aleister Crowley, is so established in the backstory of our culture that it's a key plot point of the "Lonelygirl15" saga, arguably Youtube's greatest viral phenomena.) We should also recognize ourselves from much more distant times. The fossil record of modern humans begins 196,000 years ago. From that point until now, there is nothing that physically distinguishes us from our prehistory. About 50,000 years ago, with the flourishing of art, adornment and symbolic representation, our ancestors' interior lives begin to look familiar. It's all sex and death, which is to say, religion. And if it's primitive, then so are we still.

From a statement of Vietnam war veteran Sgt. Larry J. Cottingham, January 24, 1973: "There was a period when just about everyone had a necklace of ears but as the men were wounded they thought it was bad luck and got rid of them. Scalps were a kick for a time also but there were lice in the hair and they got rid of those too and it didn't last long." Those were modern American boys, adorning themselves like "savages" with fetishes made from the flesh of the enemy.

In New Orleans, a young veteran of Iraq, Afghanistan and Katrina named Zackery Bowen left a five-page suicide note and jumped off a bridge after dismembering his girlfriend and cooking her head and legs in the apartment the shared above a voodoo shop. His victim-lover, Addie Hall, came to national attention last year for flashing her breasts to police cars. ("Female survivors of the storm were urged by government rescuers to flash their breasts in order to receive help in Katrina's immediate aftermath.") Friends of Bowen say he "displayed both pride and bitterness" over his experience of war. ("Somewhere overseas there had been an incident concerning a child that weighed heavy on him, said Donovan Calabaza, another bartender at Buffa’s, 'but we really didn’t get into it.'" Other times Bowen "would grow angry and distraught...talking of how the government [had] 'messed him over.'")

In little more than three years in Iraq, there are more than 600,000 dead who shouldn't be. As with the victims of most serial killers, they remain unnamed and unmissed except by their loved ones, and the occasional justice allegedly undertaken on their behalf means persecuting the odd accomplice rather than the perpetrator. The logic of madness that compells the maniac to kill is the same that drives the maniac state towards mass murder and genocide. The more dead by their hand, the more power they accrue, and it's not a simple equation of slaying one's enemies. It's about the alchemy of turning lives into spent fuel.

71 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous One,somehow I think the sprits are now in control,we can kiss our collective ass good bye.I've been warning people to get ready for SCI-FI when these guys come back from the Cruedsades,now what you gon-ado when he moves next door?We don't have long before this sithole spins out of control,later.

10/19/2006 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous humblenotry said...

Don't forget the uranium that has been distributed throughout Iraq. Many soldiers came home sick from Desert Dust the first invasion. How many more now? Babies born with no brains, eyes, legs, arms, just a mass of skin and bone in Iraq. This is another war crime that people do not seem to care about. This depleted uranium cannot be cleaned up. Nuclear bomb tests, Agent Orange, MK ULTRA experiments, Operation DORK and other atrocities perpetrated on American soldiers. The government does not care about the soldier.

How many of the military's young men and women have come home disabled for life? The soldier has to contemplate the philosophy of Sun Tzu, the Art of War. Is Sun Tzu the top general of the U.S. military? Only a warrior would think so.

I hope not to be too redundant about Sun Moon but here is some definitions of the meaning of moon.

A parish lantern, piece of green cheese, orb of night, queen of heaven, queen of night; "the wat'ry star", "the governess of floods", "the lantern of the night", "a ghostly galleon tossed upon cloudy seas", "Maker of sweet poets", "the wandering Moon", "bright wanderer, fair coquette of Heaven", "that orbed maiden with white fire laden", "fair regent of the night", "that huntress of the silver bow", "Queen and huntress, chaste and fair", "sovereign mistress of the true melancholy", "a ruined world, a globe burnt out, a corpse upon the road of night", plenilune, and the man in the moon.

The moon personified, the moon goddess, Diana, Phoebe, Cynthia, Artemis, Hecate, Selene; Luna; Astarte.

The sun, Sol; Helios, Hyperion, Titan, Phaethon, Phoebus, Phoebus Apollo, Apollo; Ra or Amen-Ra; Shamash; Surya, Savitar.

Of this great world both eye and soul. {Milton} of the sun.

If I was born and do not have eye or even soul due to the depleted uranium in Iraq I think if I could I would blame the Reverend Moon. {Humblenotry} of the moon.

10/19/2006 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous col quisp said...

What a timely post...the 8 soldiers who raped and killed the Iraqi teen and her family face court martial. Just as you say, the underlings get the punishment while the head cheese keeps on grinnin'.

10/19/2006 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

KILL em All


After ransacking and setting fire to many settlements and putting
countless Muslims to the sword, eventually the crusaders reached
Jerusalem in 1099. After a siege of approximately five weeks, the city fell.
When the victors finally entered Jerusalem, according to one historian,
"They killed all the Saracens and the Turks they found... whether male of fe-
male."

Crusaders slaughtered everyone they met and looted everything they
could get their hands on. They murdered indiscriminately those who had
taken refuge in the mosques, whether young or old, and devastated the
Muslim and Jewish holy sites and places of worship setting the city's syna-
gogues aflame, burning alive Jews who had hidden inside. This slaughter
continued until no longer could they find anyone to kill.



One of the crusaders, Raymond of Aguiles, boasts of this incredible cru-
elty:
Wonderful sights were to be seen. Some of our men (and this was more
merciful) cut off the heads of their enemies; others shot them with arrows,
so that they fell from the towers; others tortured them longer by casting
them into flames. Piles of heads, hands and feet were to be seen in the
streets of the city. It was necessary to pick one's way over the bodies of
men and horses. But these were small matters compared to what hap-
pened at the Temple of Solomon, a place where religious ser-
vices are normally chanted . . . in the temple and the
porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their
knees and bridle reins.

Jerusalem was stormed in July 1099. The rabid ferocity of
its sack showed just how
little the Church had suc-
ceeded in Christianising
atavistic instincts. The entire
population of the Holy City
was put to the sword, Jews
as well as Moslems, 70,000
men, women and children
perished in a holocaust,
which raged for three days.
In places men waded in
blood up to their ankles and
horsemen were splashed by
it as they rode through the
streets.

According to another historical source, the number of Muslims piti-
lessly slaughtered was 40,000.

Whatever the actual number of the dead,
what the crusaders committed in the Holy Land has gone down in history
as an example of matchless barbarism.
The first crusade ended with the fall of Jerusalem in 1099. After 460
years of Muslim rule, the Holy Land came under Christian control.

10/19/2006 09:29:00 AM  
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10/19/2006 09:32:00 AM  
Blogger greengaruda said...

The slippery slope of blood magic makes it very difficult to quantify our suspicions, but I still believe there has to be something there, otherwise it wouldn't be replicated generation after generation. Is it purely personal, bloody gratisfaction? What kind of antenna capture the liberated life essence? What kind of capacitors store the stolen life's liberated charge? I swear this is making my hair hurt. But I keep envisioning a naked Donald Rumsfield standing Carrie-like under a torrent of blood, only he's smiling beatifically and gulping.

10/19/2006 09:35:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

This is going to bring the Trolls out howling. It's almost an unstated fact of warmongering. To the victor goes...rape, murder,pillage and plunder. Plunder is last for a reason. Something to do with with the same mentality as "hazing".

10/19/2006 10:11:00 AM  
Blogger SMiles said...

OK, I've not even read the article yet but ... DAMN Jeff! Are you a professional graphic artist on top of being such a great writer? I mean, heck, if yer not you should be gettin paid for that stuff.

This latest image melding the freaky hockey-mask "Renewal" ritual sequence of Logan's Run and Death Race 2000 is just FANTASTIC.

Ok, now i gotta read this thing.

SMiles

10/19/2006 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sure the wackos will always be out there.


Albeit ulterior motives are well seen.Some people want the people who differ from their beliefs dead.
Their belief system demands it.

The Judeo/Christian bible is chock full of blood sacrifice- HUMAN blood sacrifice. Most Christians rely on what their preacher has to say and/or are too lazy or mentally challenged to read and study for themselves. How many people bother to REALLY THINK?? In addition to the blatant human blood sacrifices for jehova or allah who are the same entity, bloodbath after bloodbath took place under the direction and orders of this bloodthirsty entity in the form of numerous wars and other acts of inhumanity.
No better way to extract loosh (lifeforce energy) than torture and murder.

10/19/2006 10:37:00 AM  
Blogger Jeff said...

This latest image melding the freaky hockey-mask "Renewal" ritual sequence of Logan's Run and Death Race 2000 is just FANTASTIC.

Thanks, sometimes the graphic takes longer to conceive and execute than the post. Sometimes that shows in the writing.

BTW, the central element of the hill and the ruins is Bathory's castle, Cséjthe. Some other images here

10/19/2006 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Oarwell said...

Two things. First, Jeff, associating a lurid 16th century tale of carnage and the current debacle in Iraq may be a case of "true, true, unrelated." You close your non sequitur (okay, I'll be nice ... your conflation) with

"The more dead by their hand, the more power they accrue, and it's not a simple equation of slaying one's enemies. It's about the alchemy of turning lives into spent fuel."

As always, nice writing, but I see no alchemy, other than one of conjecture. I make jokes about Cheney being a walking corpse, but that's just metaphor employed to summarily attack dreadful policy decisions. Do you actually have evidence that Iraq is an exercise in alchemy, as opposed to being what it appears to me to be, rampant Imperialism, with its attendant undercurrent of elite financiers hunting mercilessly for profit? I am happy to note that the love of money is the root of all evil, but that doesn't mean that a soulless grubbing for profit is, in actual fact, satanic.

Although it might be.

Second: to the anon poster above, hurling the usual blog-rant hackneyism about Christianity being "chockful of human sacrifice," I'm somewhat conversant with the NT, and the only instances of sacrifice it describes seems to that of Jesus, sacrificing himself on the cross, and, in Acts, of Stephen and the other martyrs. Perhaps that is "human sacrifice in reverse;" perhaps, even, that is what redemption entails. To "redeem" is, after all, to purchase back at a price.

I acknowledge you did throw "Judeo-" into your formulation, but are there instances of human sacrifice in Judaism? None that I know of, although there's plenty of animal sacrifice, which was effectively ended when the second Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD by the Romans. Don't use the example of Isaac, for you would simply be endorsing the Christian amplification of God's own son being sacrificed to save humanity. The Israelites were at war quite frequently with regional enemies, but what people hasn't been?

Which relates back to Jeff's contention that we're as primitive as our pre-historical ancestors. I would argue that the Incarnation of God as man allowed those who wish an escape from primitive paganism, and, by Jesus's own words at the last supper, transferred any felt human need for "bloodshed" to his own ("Take and drink, this is the blood of the new revelation"). He demands (John Ch. 6) that we "eat his flesh." How bizarre! Many "turned away" upon hearing this (John 6:66--there's the Antichrist, literally--"let the reader be aware"--those who turn away upon hearing this difficult teaching).

Among the gifts true followers of Christ recieve is Mercy. The concept of mercy is, I would maintain, the sine qua non of human civilization. Without mercy, what legal system do we have? Habeas Corpus was an act of Mercy codified in Magna Carta. The awful tales related by Jeff are always conspicuous for a LACK of any sense of mercy.

The Incarnation is the watershed event in human history. Ignore it, throw up the often brutal history of the Church (or the idiocy of 'Bushianity') in an attempt to disprove it, but this message of redemption, of "counter-sacrifice," and of mercy would only be destroyed by the Hands of Hell.

Or am I just not thinking clearly?

10/19/2006 11:27:00 AM  
Blogger Jeff said...

FYI, and FWIW, I just added this bit in bold:

The sixteenth century seems so long ago we might as well be talking of a different planet and a different species, but we're not, and it's still us. If we had film from the time to view, rather than oil paintings and engravings, we'd recognize ourselves more readily. (Elizabeth's uncle was the famous Stephen Bathory, King of Poland, who hosted occultist-spy John Dee and his scrier Edward Kelly on their visit to the continent. Dee's Enochian magick, relaunched into the world by Aleister Crowley, is so established in the backstory of our culture that it's a key plot point of the "Lonelygirl15" saga, arguably Youtube's greatest viral phenomena.) We should also recognize ourselves from much more distant times. The fossil record of modern humans begins 196,000 years ago. From that point until now, there is nothing that physically distinguishes us from our prehistory. About 50,000 years ago, with the flourishing of art, adornment and symbolic representation, our ancestors' interior lives begin to look familiar. It's all sex and death, which is to say, religion. And if it's primitive, then so are we still.

10/19/2006 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

November 29, 1864 - Sand Creek Massacre of Cheyenne and Arapaho

"I also heard numerous instances in which men had cut out the private parts of females and stretched them over their saddle-bows and wore them over their hats while riding in ranks."

"In going over the "battleground" the next day I did not see a body of man, woman, or child but was scalped, and in many instances their bodies were mutilated in the most horrific manner - men, women, and children's privates cut out, &c; I heard one man say that he had cut out a woman's privates and had them on exibition on a stick..."

"I saw a little girl about five years of age who had been hid in the sand; two soldiers discovered her, drew their pistols and shot her, and then pulled her out of the sand by the arm. I saw quite a number of infants in arms killed with their mothers."

I'm sure there are more instances of these kinds of atrocities against the Native Indians than you could count.

10/19/2006 12:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Nadasky was notorious for his imaginative methods of torture, which he shared with his apprenticing wife, but his "excesses" were on the battlefield against Muslim invaders and their allies, rather than in the comfort of home against his "own kind," and that's a distinction that is usually enough to tell a national hero from a homicidal maniac.


Great point, Jeff. Now, compare and contrast it with the story about the Iraqi War Vet who dismembered and BBQ'd his girlfriend in New Orleans. In Iraq, it's all okay because, hey, it's war, afterall, and we must support the soldiers, but when he's on this side of the pond, and out of uniform and killing his own....it's somehow now homicidal and psychotic.

10/19/2006 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Oops!! I posted that before I read the remainder of your post.

See, you didn't even have to say it.....we were both thinking the same thing.

10/19/2006 12:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

and the occasional justice allegedly undertaken on their behalf means persecuting the odd accomplice rather than the perpetrator.

I'm not sure what you mean by "odd" here. Accomplice, certainly, but certainly not odd, IMHO.

Also, the accomplices are as guilty as the perpetrators, as far as I'm concerned. I mean to say, the ones who actually did the raping, not gave the orders.

However, if you think about it, we are all accomplices, to a certain extent....at least those of us who provide support to the soldiers. When you do so, you are an accomplice to the accomplices....and I'm sorry, but that's just plain inexcusable.

Bathory could not have perpetrated her crimes, at least not to that extent, wihout willing accomplices.

10/19/2006 01:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Gouda said...

Jeff, just a couple of quibbles about the NOLA suicide-murder story. The latest NOLA.com articles report that Bowen jumped from the Omni Royal Orleans hotel (and was caught on surveillance camera working himself up to do it); and that "Efforts to confirm his military service were unsuccessful Wednesday."

10/19/2006 01:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Dugoboy said...

hey jeff, i've been withholding my opinion and judgement as you keep heading in the direction that you have been in your recent articles of the last few weeks. i've been watching to see what your trying to say and i can't say that i understand it very well. maybe you should present more back history in the posts?

i also think it's dangerous to suggest whats happening these days is because of some mysterious spirituality or that as more death accrues that 'the darkness' gains more strength. what i believe is that the strength of an idea in one's head can blind them of the reality and i don't mean you i'm talking about the supposed elite controllers in the halls of power. they can believe so strongly that all these strange activities that they practice somehow maintains them power. but the only reason they have managed to stay in power is because they do things in secret and it is only until recently when the internet has become so widespread that there is a possibility of them being compromised.

i'm just thinking as i write here but i understand what you mean matephorically in relation to real events and as we realize the death count in iraq, of katrina, of the tsunami in the indian ocean area it just seems to entrench us further into an uncontrollable madness because we're doing this again.

and i don't know how sane i can stay or if i should care if the election goes badly, or if there is even a good result to come of it?

things seem to be going down rather fast and i know that if there is no certifiable change in course our way of life is gone.

so i have no idea what i'm trying to say.

10/19/2006 01:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Dugoboy said...

i looked up the bolded part and it is very interesting that the occult is such a big part of that lonelygirl15 storyline..and i don't know if you want to know what i think about that? you tell me. lol.

10/19/2006 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Dugoboy,

Never fear!! Brown's Gas is here!!

Okay, Okay.......just kidding....sorry....i couldn't help myself...

10/19/2006 02:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Dugoboy said...

well you tell me shrubb! i need some reassurance here, there is no one in my immediate life i can speak to about this stuff. what do you think? maybe i should make a forum thread?

10/19/2006 02:09:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Connections, sympathetic vibrations and the various forms of synchrony & echo are all lots of fun and can help to sort things out, but can we still make equally important distinctions between epochs and actors? Yeah, Jeff, plus ce change and all that--we have been "like this" for at least 196,000 years, but the fear vibe is being unnecessarily stoked here. The leaders have always been sadistic bastards, and sadistic bastards continue to run the world, but the common folk--ignorant, preyed upon, ill-informed masses--are not of that club. It is not human nature to either drink blood or accrue power over others. Just because they do it, what logic imparts their methodology to all, or any, of us? Do any of us claim to have sadistic, cannibal ancestors?

Also, as Oarwell and dugoboy point out, the familiar maxim can also be turned around: The more things (appear to) stay the same, the more they (really can) change. The internet embodies an evolutionary step in the propagation of memes and in the consolidation of the growth of humanity's humanity. Let's not forget that the Hungarian vampires were, eventually, stopped. By ordinary, even legal means. Judges sentenced the freaks, not silver bullets. And, the fact that we, like much of the world, are discussing the barbarism of our appointed leaders means that they, in good Colbertspeak, are on notice.

The psychic Bastille can (and will) be stormed, with or without garlic.

10/19/2006 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

following up on i. cuttlefish, a simple and naive question that has been on my mind somewhat. has anyone done any research that would quantify or explain in detail whether there is a tendency for the people who end up running large modern organizations to evidence certain types of psychopathology? obviously it appears that the tendency is strong, but i wonder whether this has been studied in depth and scientifically, as it were, and if so, what the findings are.

10/19/2006 03:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Dugoboy said...
well you tell me shrubb! i need some reassurance here, there is no one in my immediate life i can speak to about this stuff. what do you think? maybe i should make a forum thread?


Some here may say you're asking the wrong person, Dugoboy, because I'm, apparently, psychotic.

I look at it this way. Mankind's Destiny is a fully-loaded jetliner that has nowhere to land safely and has about 1/8th a tank of jet fuel left. In otherowrds, we're going to crash....that much is for sure...but it doesn't mean you can't seek solace from the inevitable. There are plenty of snacks and food on board, and every movie imaginable. You can enjoy the niceties before you smash into something at 200+ mph.

I enjoy, first and foremost, my immediate family...my wife and two children. They mean everything to me and I savor every moment with them....well, that's not exactly true.....there are moments when I wish they would just go away...but they're sparing moments.

I enjoy cooking and eating good food...and, I enjoy good wine, beer and other assorted alcoholic specialties.

I enjoy good books (I'm currently reading Harry Potter and The Half Blood Prince) and good movies.

I could go on and on....but I think you get the point.

I'm not saying give up the fight....what I am saying is that you need to temper or balance that intensity and passion with some enjoyment and appreciation in other areas of your life.

Remember, Dugoboy, it's not healthy to play Atlas and hold the weight of the world on your shoulders. You can share the weight and take a break every now and then.

Signed,

The Megalomaniac

10/19/2006 03:11:00 PM  
Anonymous monster said...

If we had film from the time to view, rather than oil paintings and engravings, we'd recognize ourselves more readily.

That's a nice insight. Even recent history, such as WWII, seems remote because most images are in black and white.

There are some Russian color photographs on the 'net somewhere that date to about 1910. They really brought that era to life for me.

Media makes a lot of difference.

10/19/2006 03:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have you formally written anything regarding the role of psychopathic types of personalities in these sorts of atrocities? I think the occult angle is intriguing, to say the least, but what about the psychiatric nature of the people who get into this stuff?

I'm reading Lobaczewski's "Political Ponerology" (poneros being Greek for "evil") and his psychiatric perspective is illuminating. You can get it as an ebook from www.signs-of-the-times.org, the Quantum Future Publishing side of the site). "The Mast of Sanity" is also available there as a free download.

The occult angle is not discussed in these books, though, so maybe you could offer some criticism or a synthesis? You ask a lot of questions.

Lobaczewski suggests it's actually a mistake to regard this pathological influence in the world in "naturalistic" moral terms. That is, it's not normal people doing bad things, and how can anybody do such a thing, but rather our normal categories of right and wrong do not apply for these people because such categories are meaningless for them. They literally find notions of right and wrong based on conscience (itself based on normal human instinct) to be baffling.

They also know they are different from us and seek each other out to gain power and remake the world in their image, a place where they can be free of our ridiculous conscience-based scruples.

So when George W. Bush talks about the spread of freedom, he means it, but it has a double meaning for other pathological characters such as himself--while the rubes think Spirit of 76, his pathocratic compatriots knows that he means the freedom of deviants such as themselves to rape, kill, and exploit with impunity. "Free at last, hallelujah!"

These psychopathic personalities happen naturally as a small percentage of all societies, but this is just now being recognized. They then infiltrate social movements and governments, and they use the ideologies as cover for their true nature.

They've taken over religious movements as well, obviously.

America is in a very advanced state of pathology by this point. The stifling of scientific and cultural life has definitely begun and will probably get worse.

Pathocrats tend to appoint trusted deviant personalities like themselves to important posts, regardless of actual skill. "Heck of a job, Brownie!" In the meantime, the Spellbinders work to alter the cover ideology to suit and work their hypnotic hold over the masses--Rush and O'Reilly, perhaps.

Also know that the destruction of as much of normal human society as possible is also a goal and moral imperative for these deviants to ensure their own survival--therefore more war, disease, famine, etc. is bound to be on the menu for us.

10/19/2006 04:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Oarwell said...

IC wrote:

"The psychic Bastille can (and will) be stormed, with or without garlic."

I'm speechless.

10/19/2006 04:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous asked"is a tendency for the people who end up running large modern organizations to evidence certain types of psychopathology?
Not exactly scientific, but the question has been asked indirectly. I would argur like attracts like.
Trailer is more on point than IMDB review.
The Corporation
"http://film.virgin.net/player/play.asp?url=/film/fid3909/trailers/trid1524/wm/low.asx&filmid=3909&partner=virgin&sec=trl

10/19/2006 04:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

addressing this quote:

following up on i. cuttlefish, a simple and naive question that has been on my mind somewhat. has anyone done any research that would quantify or explain in detail whether there is a tendency for the people who end up running large modern organizations to evidence certain types of psychopathology?

You read this and see if you 'understand' Vlad III's position. With a life like his and Wallachia in general--caught between Hungary and Ottomans--you can at least see the political aims of the Draculas there. You should know that the intro theme of Jeff's post, Eliz Bathody, is a descendant of the Draculas though an equally sadistic son--though the story really is one of Wallachia and geopolitics before psychopathy, and how such geopolitics contributed to the psychopathy of the elites there--more than elsewhere. Follow.

as IC wrote

Yeah, Jeff, plus ce change and all that--we have been "like this" for at least 196,000 years, but the fear vibe is being unnecessarily stoked here. The leaders have always been sadistic bastards, and sadistic bastards continue to run the world, but the common folk--ignorant, preyed upon, ill-informed masses--are not of that club. It is not human nature to either drink blood or accrue power over others. Just because they do it, what logic imparts their methodology to all, or any, of us? Do any of us claim to have sadistic, cannibal ancestors? Also, as Oarwell and dugoboy point out, the familiar maxim can also be turned around: The more things (appear to) stay the same, the more they (really can) change. The internet embodies an evolutionary step in the propagation of memes and in the consolidation of the growth of humanity's humanity. Let's not forget that the Hungarian [Wallachian] vampires were, eventually, stopped. By ordinary, even legal means. Judges sentenced the freaks, not silver bullets.

Yes, I think Jeff's position on psychopathy tends to over psychoanalyze it at the expense of the political contexts side of it--frankly, becuse it's a lot easier to simply blame an individual than blame a political institution much less something endemic like geopolitics that may call forth and promote such psychopathologies into being in 'our' (I use that 'our' loosely) elites, that are closer to parasitical in many cases.

This hopefully will serve as a reminder that psychopathology is more than Jeff's overemphasis on packing it all up to and blaming psychology. Look at the situation around it as well. Look at the interaction. MKULTRA crazies are designed by institutions to be crazy and murders, another example. There's nothing callled an 'independent serial killer psychology' in U.S. history--they have all been connected with the MKULTRA program in one way or another and released by equally psychopathological people in power positions to run rampant for serving their own goals.

As an introduction, this is a little interesting capsule parapolitical history assembled, skip if you want, though it certainly contexualizes much of the Dracula period as one of incessant warfare between Hungary and Wallachia and Wallachia and Ottomans.

Particuarly follow the theme of Vlad III's life below as it is battered around into psychopathy by this geopolitical context: he was at different times a political hostage in his youth by the Ottomans (given to them by his father as a sign of loyalty), as well as later in his life a prisoner of the Hungarians as well on the other side.

Vlad III's little periods of 'rule' were only tiny hostile foreign insertions by others using him as a puppet, and desperate to escape being both a puppet as well as aginast his own local aristocratic boyars.

In short, his is a window into a life spent in exile, fighting his own equally cruel family, or prisoner of both sides in a religious geopolitical war-- attempting to have his own independence from them all and battered psychologically from all sides. His own wife committed suicide in his presence as well. The people he ruled over killed his father. He experienced and discussed torture from his youth as a political hostage of the Ottomans, and perhaps later under the Hungarians as well.

First, a picture of Eliz Bathory--

http://bathory.org/erzsorig.html

Elizabeth Bathory (1560-1614), the reputed "blood bather" herself, has an ancestor in Count Dracula [Vlad III of Wallachia] (1431-1476) through his known sadistic equally eldest son who became Vlad of Wallachia as well.

A brother of Vlad III/Count Dracula (1431-1476) is a lineal ancestor of Prince Charles of England, through Vlad IV. The connection was through Queen Consort Princess Mary of Teck (to King George V of England); Mary of Teck was descended from that Vlad IV.

Vlad III of Wallachia [Count Dracula, (1431-1476)]; was voivode (prince) of Wallachia like his father Vlad II (Vlad III of the Order of the Dragon from 1431; future Vlad III a member of the Order of the Dragon from age 5, in 1436, when his father Vlad II became voivode/prince of Wallachia, to within ten years when his father was murdered by his aristocratic Wallachian boyars.

This is occurring in Wallachia, an area now part of Romania.

Wallachia is situated in lowlands north of the Danube (present-day Serbia and Bulgaria) though south of the Southern Carpathians. It's a 'path into Europe' from Asia Minor and then the Ottomans. It's currently the 'southern half' of Romania though the geography is important here in the exploration of the psychopathology.

Do many of our pseudo-formal political institutions so far actually call for such psychopathology in practice?--this is another theme I'm towing with here particularly if royal power as described below of Vlad is just as capricious, informal, and clientelistic as the aristocratic boyars he fought.

Vlad III's three short reigns only totaled 7 years. These three widely spaced period are a study in the psychopathogy of geopolitics: in 1448 (sponsored by the Ottomans, his torturers/captors), in 1456-1462 (sponsored by himself against the Holy Roman Empire and Hungarians), and in 1476 (sponsored by the Hungarians, after being captive there for a while).

As voivode he led an independent policy in relation to the Ottoman Empire as well as Hungary, and in Romania he is best remembered as a prince defender of Wallachia (southern Romania) against Ottoman expansionism and hideous torturer.

His impact on the expansion of the Ottoman Empire is recognizable in that his successful hold in this geopolitical 'path to Europe' against them bought time for western Europe after the failure at the Battle of Kosovo [(1389, which occurred a bit further south in the generation before after which the Ottomans moved into the area]. Some Ottoman armies retreated in fear out of Wallachia just with seeing Vlad III's forest of impaled people when crossing the Danube in to Wallachia, that was strategically placed there to 'overawe' them--particularly when they were 20,000 Ottoman prisoners on 20,000 separate stakes waiting to greet them at the border of Wallachia, captured in a previous invasion.

The 'dracula' name comes from his father Vlad II's enrollment in Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund's 'recreation' of the Order of the Dragon in 1408. Thus, only about a generation before, the 'dracula' cognomen was given to his father. 1408 was a generation after the turning point of the Battle of Kosovo in 1389, as the Ottomans were moving in after destroying all the Serbian elites already in 1389. Background on that:

The 1389 battle of Kosovo is thought to have become a pivotal moment in the history of the Serbian people when they lost their entire political elite and then were gobbled up within fifty years by the Ottoman Empire as they moved inward against Transylvania.

At Kosovo, the ruling Prince, Lazar of Serbia, marshalled a Christian coalition force, made of Serbs from both the Serbian empire and from Bosnia.

Ottoman Sultan Murad I also gathered a coalition of soldiers and volunteers from neighboring countries in Anatolia and Rumelia.

The Ottomans heavily outnumbered the Serbs.

Reliable historical accounts of this battle are scarce, and they've been largely displaced in the Serbian tradition by the epic poetry, which tell a distorted picture of the events. The armies met at Kosovo Polje. Murad's death is disputed to this day, with one account being he was assassinated by Miloš Obilić, who made his way into the Turkish camp on the pretext of being a deserter and forced his way into the Sultan's tent and stabbed him with a poisoned dagger. Regardless of how Murad died, the confusion that followed was eventually quelled by Bayezid, the Sultan's son. For the death of the Sultan, the Ottomans killed many of their prisoners. Both armies sustained heavy casualties and both armies withdrew from the battlefield, but the toll on Serbia was catastrophic as much of its political elite was wiped out, i.e., Prince Lazar and most of Serbia's knights. More than 150 died in this one battle.

Bayezid I, as the new sultan, united with the Serbians by taking Lazar's daughter, the Serbian princess Olivera Despina, as a wife.

The Serbs were forced to pay tribute to the Turks and promised to do military service in the Sultan's army. Much later, and after two lesser battles, the latter being the siege of Smederevo, the Ottomans eventually annexed the remainder of Serbia in 1459.

In this period of 1389-1459 is the story of the 'dracula' title, when Sigismund was additionally desperate for any allies because most of the local aristocracy of Wallachia opposed him.

Vlad III's Romanian surname 'Draculea' (transliterated as Dracula in foreign languages of the historical documents where his name is mentioned) seems to come from his father's surname Dracul (Vlad II Dracul); his father was a high aristocratic sponsored member of the Order of the Dragon [expanded instead of] created by Emperor Sigismund.

The Order of the Dragon (German: Drachenorden; Latin: Societas Draconistrarum) is an order of selected nobles modeled on the Order of Saint George of Burgundy.

The order was created by Serbs, but originally commissioned after the Serbian disaster of Kosovo (1389) in 1408 by Sigismund, the Holy Roman Emperor (while still king of Hungary) and his second wife (Barbara Cilli) in order to protect the royal family long after it has already been destroyed earlier in the goal of protecting Serbia against the Ottomans.

Members of the Order were known as draconists.

Originally, it is claimed, Miloš Obilić, a Serbian knight, had created the secret order of the Dragon of Saint George. His shield represented the sun with twelve rays and there were twelve knights, himself included, belonging to this order. As a distinctive sign, they wore a dragon on their helmet.

The aim of the original order was the death of the Ottoman Sultan Murad I.

It seeemed to have worked: on June 15, 1389, at the Battle of Kosovo, The Order of the Dragon's Miloš made his way into the Ottoman camp on the pretext of being a deserter, forced his way into the Sultan's tent and stabbed him to death. Obilić was later executed together with all other Serbian prisoners by Murad's son, Beyazid I.

Only one of the original twelve knights of the Dragon survived.

He later became a trainer of Serbian prince - Despot Stefan Lazarević. Lazarević was the son and heir to Lazar, the Serbian prince who died at the Battle of Kosovo. He was also the first European-style knight in Serbia.

Stefan became a vassal of [Sigismund's] Hungary and a knight of a special order, so when Sigismund reanimated the Order, Stefan was the first on the list of members.

Order of the Dragon Renewed

On December 13, 1408, the charter for the Order was publicly announced, dedicating the Order to the defense of the cross from its enemies particularly the Ottomans.

The refounding twenty-four members were inducted in 1408, including:

* Sigismund of Luxembourg, King of Hungary, King of the Holy Roman Empire
* Stefan Lazarević of Serbia
* King Alfonso of Aragon and Naples
* King Ladislaus II of Poland
* Grand Prince Vitautas of Lithuania
* Duke Ernst of Austria
* Christopher III, Duke of Bavaria and King of Denmark
* Pipo of Ozora

Symbol of the Order

For their symbol, the Order designed an insignia of a dragon with its tail coiled around its neck; on the back of the dragon, from the base of the neck to the tail, is the Red Cross of Saint George, with the entire image on an argent field. Members were required to wear the symbol (often as a medallion) at all times and were often buried with the symbol.

Growth of the Order

In 1431 (the year later Vlad III 'Count Dracula' was born), Sigismund chose to expand the ranks of the Order from the original 1408 reanimation of it, and he inducted Vlad II of Wallachia. Vlad Dracul, was invested into the Order of the Dragon at Nuremberg. At the age of five, 1436, young Vlad [III] his son was also initiated into the Order of the Dragon. (The post-title 'Dracul' refers to being invested with the Order of the Dragon.)

Sigismund invited a number of politically influential and militarily useful vassals and nobles for indoctrination into the Order.

Vlad II Dracul, father of Vlad Ţepeş, was serving as frontier commander guarding the passes from Transylvania to Wallachia.

The addition of new members in 1431 caused the later creation of many classes within the Order.

The order remained prominent only until the death of Sigismund in 1437. Without a strong sponsor, the Order quickly lost influence and prestige.

Vlad II finally became prince of Wallachia in 1436, the same year his son (Vlad III) was inducted as well into the Order of the Dragon. During his reign Vlad II tried to maneuver between his powerful neighbors, opposing various initiatives of war against the Ottomans, which finally attracted the irritation of the Hungarian side who accused him of disloyalty and removed him in 1442. Vlad II with the help of the Turks (where he also had connections) regained the throne against the king of Hungary's wishes within one year, in 1443, and kept it until December 1447 when he was assassinated on the orders of John Hunyadi, regent of Hungary. Little Vlad III started his reign of one year in 1448, an implanted puppet of the Ottomans, then he was deposed as well.

The Draculs were politially allied with the Ottoman Turks, against the kings of Hungary here.

In other words, the Draculas were very much an independent jurisdiction they found themselves allied with the Turks against the king of Hungary--and only allied with the Turks due to the hostage arrangement between Vlad II, who gave away his two youngest sons (one of them the later Vlad III) as political hostages.

Vlad's father was under considerable political pressure from the Ottoman sultan. Threatened with invasion, in an area in which the sultan preferred to appoint pashas instead of work through preexisting elites, Vlad II gave a promise to be the vassal of the Sultan and gave up his two younger sons as hostages so that he would keep his promise. If he did not follow the sultan's policies and interests, his sons would surely die. This is the context. Most Balkan Christian kingdoms being totally destroyed after 1389, and the different jurisdictions turned into 'pashaleks' - Ottoman provinces ruled by pashas. Vlad II bought independence against expanding Ottomans by the hostage arrangement to keep them from mowing him down and replacing him with another Ottoman pasha.

Vlad III suffered much at the hands of the Turks, and was locked up in an underground dungeon. He appears to have gotten his taste for impaling at this time. However, his younger brother, Radu, caught the eye of the sultan's son for homosexual sex. Radu was released and converted to Islam, before being allowed into the Ottoman royal court. These years were influential in shaping Vlad III's character. He was often whipped by his Turkish captors for being stubborn and rude. It could be argued that the man's fascination with torture truly began under the Ottomans as he witnessed torture and occasionally took part in various discussions on the art of torture.

However, it was only the later institutional situations in which Vlad III found himself in which brought it out entirely as a political strategy. The same with Eliz Barthody--it was their instituitonal position that allowed for it and supported it, instead of simply their psychology. Without the 'magnification' of their psychology, when implanted in certain positions, nothing like this would have ever occurred.

Thus the psychological side of psychopathology can be known as the 'necessary though insufficient' cause. So it's a mistake to concentrate on lurid individual details at the expense of social organizational ones, when they held the position, magnified their pathologies exclusively in the service of state institutions or state institutional foundational attempts.

In addition to his childhood as a political hostage to the Turks, Vlad III seems to have had three brothers. The oldest, a non-hostage, probably named Mircea, born before 1430, briefly held his father's throne in 1442, was sent by Vlad II Dracul in 1444 to fight in his place during the crusade against the Turks that ended with the Varna defeat and met his end along with his father Vlad II in 1447, presumably being buried alive, possibly alongside his father--killed by the Hungarians instead of the Turks. (Others say he was blinded first, a minor point.) Vlad IV, non-hostage, also known as Vlad Călugarul (Vlad the Monk), was born around 1425 to 1430, and was Vlad's half-brother. Vlad the Monk spent many years in Transylvania waiting for a chance to get the throne of Wallachia, trying a religious career in the meantime, until he became prince of Wallachia (1482) [This line goes to Prince Charles]. Radu, known as Radu cel Frumos (Radu the Handsome), hostage, the youngest brother, was also Vlad III’s most important rival. Each continuously tried to replace each other: first Vlad III with the help of the Islamic Turks, then later Radu his Islamic brother supported against Vlad III as well by the Islamic Turks; Radu was the hostage with the stronger connections because he had converted to Islam. Because of this Radu seems to have been also favoured by the Turkish Sultan Mehmed II. Vlad III apparently had a sister too, named Alexandra though this has not been verified. From Vlad III's first marriage, to a Wallachian noble woman, he apparently had a son, later prince of Wallachia as Mihnea cel Rău, and another two with his second wife, a relative of Matthias Corvinus of Hungary, which seems to have been a political marriage under his second captivity by Hungary.

After Vlad III's father and brother were assassinated and probabaly buried alive in the marshes near Bălteni in December of 1447 by rebellious Hungarian boyars (NOT Turks in other words; and, allegedly, under the orders of John Hunyadi). This was presumably due to Vlad II's semi-pro-Turkish policy. After this Hungarian murder of his Vlad III's father, the Sultan released the next puppet: Vlad III.

Vlad III's older brother who fought and died with Vlad II, Mircea, was also dead at this point, blinded with hot iron stakes and buried alive by his Hungarian political enemies at Târgovişte.

The Turks then invaded Wallachia and the Sultan put Vlad III on the throne as the next puppet ruler for the Ottomans, after Vlad II had maintained a similar position.

Vlad III's rule was brief, less than one year. It was not long before the same Hunyadi himself invaded Wallachia once more and ousted the Turks and thus, Vlad III, just as he had ousted Vlad II the year before, killing Vlad III's father and brother.

More Dracul independence against Hungary noted in the next 'little rule' period. In 1456, while Hyuandi's Hungary invaded Serbia to drive out the Turks, Vlad III instead of allying with his father and brother's murder simultaneously invaded Hungarian controlled Wallachia with his own contingent. Both campaigns were successful, although Hunyadi died suddenly of the plague (and thus removing Vlad III's enemy who had unseated him back in 1447 and killed his father and brother). Thus, almost by default, Vlad III was now prince of his native land--though only a short while once more.

Main reign (1456–62)

Vlad's actions after 1456 are well documented. Except for constantly performing acts of amazing cruelty, he seems to have led the life of all the other princes of Wallachia, spending most of his time at the court of Târgovişte, occasionally in other important cities, such as Bucharest - that he founded, drafting laws, meeting foreign envoys and presiding over important judicial trials. He probably made public appearances on relevant occasions, such as religious holidays and major fairs.

As a pastime he probably enjoyed hunting on the vast princely domain, with his more or less loyal friends. He made some additions to the palace in Târgovişte (out of which Chindia tower is today the most notable remainder), reinforced some castles, like the one at Poienari, where he also had a personal house built nearby.

He also made donations to various churches and monasteries, one such place being the monastery at Lake Snagov where he is supposed to have been buried.

The early part of Vlad’s reign was dominated by the idea of eliminating all possible threats to his power, mainly the rival nobility groups, i.e. the Wallachian boyars. This was done mainly by physical elimination such as impalement, but also by formal instiutional changes like reducing the economic role of the nobility: the key positions in the Prince’s Council, traditionally belonging to the country’s greatest boyars, were handed to intentionally clientelistic and obscure individuals, some of them of foreign origin who were manifested loyalty towards Vlad. Nonetheless, even these people were eliminated regularly.

For the less important functions, Vlad also ignored the old boyars, preferring to knight and appoint men from the free peasantry.

A key element of the power of the local aristocratic Wallachian nobility was their own peasant allied connections in the Teutonic Knights/Saxon-populated autonomous towns of Transylvania. Therefore Vlad acted against these boyar allied cities by eliminating their trade privileges in relation with Wallachia and by organizing raids and mass slaughters against them.

Another serious threat to Vlad’s power was the anarchical situation (a constant state of war had led to rampant crime, falling agricultural production and virtual disappearance of trade) in which Wallachia was brought since the death of his grandfather Mircea the Elder (1418), the son of the founder of Wallachia, Basarab the Great. Vlad used severe methods to restore some order, as he needed an economically stable country if he was to have any chance against his external enemies.

Vlad III was also constantly on guard against the adherents of the Dăneşti clan--the other side of his own family.

Some of his raids into Transylvania may have been efforts to capture would-be princes of the Dăneşti--one of which would later unseat him.

Several members of the Dăneşti side of the Dracula clan died at Vlad's hands: Vladislav II of Wallachia was murdered soon after Vlad came to power in 1456; another Dăneşti prince was captured and killed during one of Vlad's forays into Transylvania; thousands of citizens of the town that had sheltered his rival were impaled by Vlad.

His close relative, the captured Dăneşti prince was forced to read his own funeral oration while kneeling before an open grave before his execution.

The greatest threat to Vlad’s position was the rivalry in southeastern Europe between the Ottoman Empire and the Hungarian Kingdom.

To the end of the 1450s there was once again talk about a war against the Turks, his previous captors, in which the king of Hungary, Matthias Corvinus would play the main role. Knowing this, Vlad III stopped paying money to the Ottomans in 1459 and around 1460 made a new alliance with Corvinus, much to the dislike of the Turks, who attempted to remove him after they had previously used him as a puppet of their own. They invaded, and they failed; later, instead, in the winter of 1461 to 1462 Vlad crossed south of the Danube and devastated the area between Serbia and the Ottoman controlled Black Sea, leaving over 20,000 people dead.

In response to this, and for the second invasion attempt after the 1459 refusal to offer bribe/loyalty money to the sultan, Sultan Mehmed II, the recent conqueror of Constantinople (in 1452), raised an army of around 60,000 men and in the spring of 1462 headed towards Wallachia.

With his army of 20,000-30,000 men Vlad was unable to stop the Turks from entering Wallachia and occupying the capital Târgovişte (June 4, 1462), so he resorted to guerrilla war, constantly organizing small attacks and ambushes on the Turks.

The most important of these attacks took place on the night of June 16/17, when Vlad and some of his men allegedly entered the main Turkish camp (wearing Ottoman disguises) and attempted to assassinate Mehmed.

The Turks eventually left the country, but not before installing Vlad’s Islamic hostage brother they still had, Radu the Handsome, as the new prince--just as they had attempted with Vlad III earlier against their common enemy the king of Hungary; Islamic Radu the Handsome gathered support from Vlad III's own nobility (that hated Vlad III as well) and as a group they chased Vlad III to Transylvania, and by August 1462 he had changed allies and Vlad III struck a deal with the Hungarian Crown to remove his Islamic brother and next Ottoman puppet Islamic Radu the Handsome. However, in this 'alliance' with Hungary, Vlad III was imprisoned by Matthias Corvinus in Hungary, the same situation he was in earlier in life under the Ottomans on the other side.

In captivity

The exact length of Vlad's period of captivity is open to some debate. The Russian pamphlets indicate that he was a prisoner from 1462 until 1474. Apparently his imprisonment was none too onerous as an 'ally' of Hungary, waiting for the chance to unseat his brother Radu. He was able to gradually win his way back into the graces of Hungary's monarch; so much so that he was able to meet and marry a member of the royal family (the cousin of Matthias) and have two sons who were about ten years old when he reconquered Wallachia in 1476.

McNally and Florescu place Vlad III the Impaler's actual period of confinement at about four years from 1462 to 1466. It is unlikely that a prisoner would have been allowed to marry into the royal family, though this was a special prisoner destined to be the Hungarian loyal puppet of Wallachia, so it would be understandable to create the family links of loyalty between them.

Diplomatic correspondence from Buda during the period in question also seems to support the claim that Vlad's actual period of confinement was relatively short.

The openly pro-Turkish policy of Vlad's Islamic brother, Radu (who was Ottoman created prince of Wallachia during most of Vlad's captivity), was a probable factor in Vlad's rehabilitation.

During his captivity, Vlad also adopted Catholicism--possibly as part of the Hungarian alliance deal This brings up an interesting question of what he claimed to be before 1462.

It is interesting to note that the Muscovy narrative, normally very favorable to Vlad Ţepeş and though more trustworthy, indicates that even in Hungarian captivity he could not give up his favorite pastime; he often captured birds and mice which he proceeded to torture and mutilate — some were beheaded or tarred-and-feathered and released, most were impaled on tiny spears.

Apparently in the years before his final release in 1474 when he began preparations for the reconquest of Wallachia, Vlad resided with his new wife in a house in the Hungarian capital (the setting of the thief anecdote). Vlad had a son from an earlier marriage, Mihnea cel Rău. According to legend his first wife, whose name is not recorded, died during the siege of his castle in 1462 when he fled--so he lost his wife and his position in 1462.

What a memory to take into exile: his wife, when faced with the fact that she would have only her husband Vlad III to protect her into exile, committed suicide in front of him as a testament to her lack of confidence in him. The Turkish army surrounded Poienari Castle, led by his half-brother Islamic Radu the Handsome. An archer shot an arrow through a window into Vlad III's main quarters, demanding his surrender. Upon reading the message, Vlad's wife flung herself off the tower into a tributary of the Argeş River flowing below the castle. (Today, the river is called Râul Doamnei (the Lady's River).)

A life like this is bound to make you sadistic....

Return to Wallachia and death

Around 1475 Vlad the Impaler was again ready to make another bid for power. Vlad and voivode Stephen Báthory of Transylvania (the one who later leads into the Elizabethan Rosicrucian Englang and occultist John Dee connections) invaded Wallachia with a mixed force of Transylvanians, a few dissatisfied Wallachian boyars, and a contingent of Moldavians sent by Vlad's cousin, Prince Stephen III of Moldavia--probabaly for his own interest instead of really helping Vlad III.

What led to this invasion was that Vlad's brother, Radu the Handsome, had died a couple of years earlier and had been replaced on the Wallachian throne by another Ottoman candidate, Basarab the Elder, a member of the Dăneşti clan--the opposite side of the Dracul family.

At the approach of Vlad's army, Basarab and his cohorts fled, some to the protection of the Turks, others to the shelter of the Transylvanian Alps.

After placing Vlad Ţepeş/Vlad III on the throne for the third time now (once by Ottomans; once by himself independently invading Hungarian territory during Hungarian attacks on Turks; once by Hungarians), Stephen Báthory (ancestor of 'bloodbathing' Eliz Barthory) and the bulk of Vlad's forces returned to Transylvania, leaving Vlad in a very weak position.

Vlad III had little time to gather support before a large Ottoman army entered Wallachia determined to return the other side of the Dracul family, Basarab, to the throne.

Vlad's cruelties and mass murder of their boyar linked peasant/urban/merchant allies over the previous years before 1462 had alienated the local boyars who felt they had a better chance of surviving under Prince Basarab.

Apparently, even the peasants, tired of the depredations of Vlad, abandoned him to his fate. Vlad was forced to march to meet the Turks with the small forces at his disposal, somewhat less than four thousand men.

There are several variants of Vlad III the Impaler's death. Some sources say he was killed in battle against the Ottomans near Bucharest in December of 1476. Others say he was assassinated by disloyal Wallachian boyars just as he was about to sweep the Turks from the field or during a hunt. Other accounts have Vlad falling in defeat, surrounded by the bodies of his loyal Moldavian bodyguard (the troops loaned by Prince Stephen remained with Vlad after Stephen Báthory returned to his country).

Still other reports claim that Vlad, at the moment of victory, was accidentally struck down by one of his own men. Vlad's body was decapitated by the Turks and his head was sent to Istanbul and preserved in honey, where the sultan had it displayed on a stake as proof that Kazıklı Bey was dead.

He was reportedly buried at a monastery located near Bucharest, yet the exact place of his burial remains unknown, as excavations at Snagov monastery, usually mentioned as his final resting place, have found no human remains.

Legacy: the oral history

Romanian oral tradition provides another important source for the life of Vlad the Impaler: legends and tales concerning the Impaler have remained a part of folklore among the Romanian peasantry. These tales have been passed down from generation to generation for five hundred years. Through constant retelling they have become somewhat garbled and confused and they have gradually been forgotten in later years. However, they still provide valuable information about Dracula and his relationship with his people. Many of the tales contained in the pamphlets are also found in the oral tradition, though with a somewhat different emphasis.

Among the Romanian peasantry, Vlad Ţepeş was remembered as a just prince who defended his people from foreign aggression, whether those foreigners were Turkish invaders or Saxon/Teutonic Knights/German merchants.

He is also remembered as a champion of the common man against the oppression of the Wallachian aristocratic boyars.

National poet of Romania, Mihai Eminescu wrote the memorable verses "Unde eşti tu, Ţepeş Doamne, ca punând mâna pe ei, Să-i împarţi în două cete: în smintiţi şi în mişei" (where are you, lord Ţepeş, to get them and split them into two gangs, fools and rascals").

Vlad III's fierce insistence on honesty is a central part of the oral tradition.

Many of the anecdotes contained in the pamphlets and in the oral tradition demonstrate the prince's efforts to eliminate crime and dishonesty from his domain in a pro-peasant policy against the aristocratic boyars and Saxon merchants allied with them.

Presidential candidate Traian Băsescu referred to Vlad Ţepeş and his method of punishing illegalities in his anticorruption discourse during the election campaign of 2004.

However, despite the more positive interpretation, the Romanian oral tradition also remembers Vlad as an exceptionally cruel and often capricious ruler in maintaining this peasant alliance against the aristocrats and merchants of Wallachia.

There are several events that are common to all the pamphlets, regardless of their nation of origin. Many of these events are also found in the Romanian oral tradition. Specific details may vary among the different versions of these anecdotes but the general course of events usually agrees to a remarkable extent.

For example, in some versions the foreign ambassadors received by Vlad Ţepeş at Târgovişte are Florentine, in others they are Ottoman (McNally and Florescu believe he may have done this to both nationalities at different times). The nature of their offense against the Prince also varies from version to version. However, all versions agree that Vlad, in response to some real or imagined insult, had their hats nailed to their heads. Some of the sources view Vlad's actions as justified, others view his acts as crimes of wanton and senseless cruelty.

More than anything else, Vlad III Ţepeş is known for his exceeding cruelty. Impalement was Ţepeş's preferred method of torture and execution.

His method of torture was a horse attached to each of the victim's legs, while a sharpened stake was gradually forced into the body. The end of the stake was usually oiled, and care was taken that the stake not be too sharp; else the victim might die too rapidly from shock. Normally the stake was inserted into the body through the anus and was often forced through the body until it emerged from the mouth. However, there were many instances where victims were impaled through other bodily orifices or through the abdomen or chest. Infants were sometimes impaled on the stake forced through their mother's chests. The records indicate that victims were sometimes impaled so that they hung upside down on the stake.

As expected, death by impalement was slow and painful. Victims sometimes endured for hours or days. Vlad often had the stakes arranged in various geometric patterns.

The most common pattern was a ring of concentric circles in the outskirts of a city that constituted his target.

The height of the spear indicated the rank of the victim. The corpses were often left decaying for months.

Thousands were often impaled at a single time. 10,000 were impaled in the Transylvanian city of Sibiu (where Vlad the Impaler had once lived) in 1460. The previous year, on Saint Bartholomew's Day (in August), Vlad the Impaler had 30,000 of the merchants and officials of the Transylvanian city of Braşov that were challenging his jurisdiction and breaking his authority impaled.

One of the most famous woodcuts of the period shows Vlad the Impaler feasting amongst a forest of stakes and their grisly burdens outside Braşov, while a nearby executioner cuts apart other victims.

Impalement was Vlad the Impaler's favourite but by no means his only method of torture. The list of tortures employed by the prince is extensive: nails in heads, cutting off of limbs, blinding, strangulation, burning, cutting off of noses and ears, mutilation of sexual organs (especially in the case of women), scalping, skinning, exposure to the elements or to animals, and boiling alive.

No one was immune to Vlad the Impaler's attentions.

His victims included women and children, peasants and great lords, ambassadors from foreign powers and merchants. However, the vast majority of his European victims came from the merchants and aristocratic boyars of Transylvania and his own country, Wallachia, i.e., those who opposed his political jurisdiction.

Many have attempted to justify Vlad's actions on the basis of nascent nationalism and political necessity.

Most of the merchants in Transylvania and Wallachia were Saxons who were seen as parasites, preying upon Romanian natives of Wallachia, while the boyars had proven their autonomy time and time again (Vlad's own father and older brother were murdered by Wallachian boyars wanting their own independence in Wallachia).

It is highly contested whether he was actually insane, though he certainly had no problem giving that impression. His domestic atrocities were largely driven by one or more of three motives: personal or political vendettas, the establishment of iron-fisted law and order in Wallachia, and nationalizing the province's economy through policies that would be identified today as economic nationalism.

Vlad Ţepeş committed even more impalements and other tortures against invading forces, namely Ottomans.

It was once reported that an invading Ottoman army turned back in fright when it encountered thousands of rotting corpses impaled on the banks of the Danube.

In 1462 Mehmed II, the very conqueror of Constantinople, and thus a man not noted for his squeamishness since he hacked the whole city there to death, returned to his Istanbul/Constantinople in a fright after being sickened by the sight of 20,000 impaled corpses outside of Vlad's capital of Târgovişte.

Many of the victims were Turkish prisoners of war Vlad had previously captured during the previous failed Turkish invasion after Vlad III stopped paying a bribe in 1459.

The total Turkish casualty toll in this battle in 1462 reached over 40,000.

The warrior sultan who conquered Constantinople instead fled and turned command of the campaign against Vlad III over to subordinates and returned to Istanbul, even though his army had initially tripled Vlad III's in size and was better equipped.

Vlad III began his reign of terror almost as soon as he came to power. His first significant act of cruelty may have been motivated by a desire of revenge against the people who killed his father and brother in Wallachia as well as a need to solidify his power against the very same people who were still alive.

For instance, early in his reign Vlad III gave a feast for his boyars and their families to celebrate Easter. Vlad was well aware that many of these same nobles were part of the conspiracy that led to his father's assassination and the burying alive of his elder brother, Mircea.

Many had also played a role in the overthrow of numerous Wallachian princes.

During the feast Vlad asked his noble guests how many princes (like himself) had ruled during their life times. All of the nobles present had outlived several princes.

One answered that at least thirty princes had held the throne during his life. None had seen less than seven reigns.

Vlad immediately had all the assembled nobles arrested. The older boyars and their families were impaled on the spot.

The younger and healthier nobles and their families were marched north from Târgovişte to the ruins of Poienari Castle in the mountains above the Argeş River. Vlad the Impaler was determined to rebuild this ancient fortress as his own stronghold and refuge.

The enslaved boyars and their families were forced to labor for months rebuilding the old castle with materials from another nearby ruin. According to the reports, they labored until the clothes fell off their bodies and then were forced to continue working naked.

Very few of the old gentry survived the ordeal of building Vlad's castle.

Throughout his reign, Vlad systematically eradicated the old boyar class of Wallachia.

The old boyars had repeatedly undermined the power of the prince during previous reigns and had been responsible for the violent overthrow of several princes.

Apparently Vlad Ţepeş was determined that his own power be on a thoroughly secure footing.

In place of the executed boyars, Vlad promoted new men from among the free peasantry and middle class; men who would be loyal only to their prince.

Many of Vlad's acts of cruelty can be interpreted as efforts to strengthen and centralize government at the expense of the powers of mostly autonomous nobility and their economic power.

Legacy: Anecdotal evidence and Europe's early scandal sheets/print journalism

Much of the information we have about Vlad III Ţepeş comes from pamphlets published in the Holy Roman Empire and chronicles written in Muscovy. The first known German pamphlet dates from 1488 and it is possible that some were printed during Vlad’s lifetime. At least initially, they may have been politically inspired. At that time Matthias Corvinus of Hungary was seeking to bolster his own reputation in the Empire and may have intended the early pamphlets as justification of his less than vigorous support of his vassal.

The pamphlets were also a form of mass entertainment in a society where the printing press was just coming into widespread use.

Much like the subject matter of the supermarket tabloids of today, the cruel life of the Wallachian tyrant was easily sensationalized.

The pamphlets were reprinted numerous times over the thirty or so years following Vlad's death -- strong proof of their popularity.

The German pamphlets, in areas dominated by the equally rapacious Teutonic Knights that ruled like the Saxon allied aristocrats that Vlad III killed off in Wallachia, painted centralizer Vlad Ţepeş as an inhuman monster who terrorized the land and butchered innocents with sadistic glee. However, so did the Teutonic Knights.

The Russian pamphlets took a somewhat different view. The princes of Muscovy were at the time just beginning to build the basis of what would become the autocracy of the tsars. They were also having considerable trouble with disloyal, often troublesome boyars as well. In Muscovy, instead, Vlad was presented as a cruel but just prince whose actions were directed toward the greater good of his people.

Despite the differences in politically useful interpretation, the pamphlets, regardless of their land of origin, agree remarkably well as to specifics. The level of agreement has led most historians to conclude that at least the broad outlines of the events covered actually occurred.

Vlad's atrocities against the people of Wallachia were usually attempts to enforce his own jurisdiction a and even moral code upon his country. According to the pamphlets, he appears to have been particularly concerned with female chastity. Maidens who lost their virginity, adulterous wives, and unchaste widows were all targets of Vlad's cruelty. Such women often had their sexual organs cut out or their breasts cut off. They were also often impaled through the vagina on red-hot stakes that were forced through the body until they emerged from the mouth. One report tells of the execution of an unfaithful wife. Dracula had the woman's breasts cut off, then she was skinned and impaled in a square in Târgovişte with her skin lying on a nearby table. Vlad also insisted that his people be honest and hard-working. Merchants who cheated their customers were likely to find themselves mounted on a stake beside common thieves.

Modern day

The Imperial and Royal Dragon Court and Order, is a recent and unauthorized revival of the original Order of the Dragon. Although not generally considered a legitimate Order of Chivalry, it has gained a growing group of adherants. One of its most prominent members is Michael Stewart of Albany, better known as the self styled "Prince Michael of Albany". Albany claims to be the direct descendant of Charles Edward Stuart, last head of the House of Stuart.

Conclusion

So is psychopathology psychological or due to a combination of geopolitics/formal institutions as they have have been constructed so far? Or do you now see the stupidity of even asking such a purist question, one way or the other?

One of the themes I hope came out of the above is how informal most so called formal institutions have been so far. I'm all for IC's statement of:

Let's not forget that the Hungarian [Wallachian] vampires were, eventually, stopped. By ordinary, even legal means. Judges sentenced the freaks, not silver bullets.

I recall the popular cry in that Venezuela Bolivarian film, by the jubuliant Venezuelan poor man on camera, holding up his copy of the Bolivarian constitution of Venezuela, "If Bush ever attempts to invade we'll kill him with the Constitution!"

Constitutions are what all psychopathology based 'institutions' fear most. Stronger than silver bullets and stronger than garlic are people who simply fail to allow such unrepresentative macro-clientelistic institutionalized forms of thralldom, fear, and lack of participation to be created in the first place.

10/19/2006 05:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Oarwell said...

Here's the link on ponerology:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/political_ponerology_lobaczewski.htm

Quote:

"The actions of [pathocracy] affect an entire society, starting with the leaders and infiltrating every town, business, and institution. The pathological social structure gradually covers the entire country creating a “new class” within that nation. This privileged class [of pathocrats] feels permanently threatened by the “others”, i.e. by the majority of normal people. Neither do the pathocrats entertain any illusions about their personal fate should there be a return to the system of normal man."

Yes, exactly. War crimes tribunals.

10/19/2006 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know it sort of creeps out, and maybe seems too far-fetched for Dugoboy and others...but Jeff has long identified the irrational piece of all this elite behaviour....

blood and semen...ritual...power.

As it was, as it always is.

10/19/2006 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Dugoboy said...

anon 4:25:

everytime bush says freedom is on the march, it sounds more like hes telling a threat. so he's more like saying in his texan drawl: "be careful or we're gonna freedomize ya!"

they've managed to turn freedom into a verb.

anon 4:57:

i also recommend The Corporation. very smart documentary.

10/19/2006 06:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

OPEC cuts oil production 1.2 million barrels per day.

Hmmmmm....could mean many things.

10/19/2006 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous starroute said...

anonymous said:

blood and semen...ritual...power.
As it was, as it always is.


No...not same as it ever was...

The real secret to human magic isn't blood and isn't semen. It's symbols. Humans have the power of abstracting symbols from the ongoing flow of existence and then manipulating existence by manipulating the symbols.

This isn't even an occult process, necessarily -- unless you think, say, that every time we earn or spend money we are engaging in an occult ritual. Or that every time we open our mouths to speak or write words at our keyboards we are carrying out an occult practice.

Well, in a sense we are -- but in another sense, it's just what us humans do.

Some symbols are older and perhaps more powerful than others, but that doesn't mean they have the power they once did. Gold, for example, was a powerful symbol of light and warmth going back to the days when there were still shiny golden pebbles lying around on the ground because they hadn't yet all been collected and turned into coins or jewelry. But these days, the symbolic power of money flows far more effectively through greenbacks or electronic messages, and we keep gold in the vaults only out of a kind of nostalgia.

Blood and semen, similarly, gained power in the unimaginably ancient days when humans first became aware of the amazing creative powers of their own bodies. But as early as, say, 90,000 years ago red ochre was being used to encapsulate the life-giving power of blood. The use of other simple objects -- such as quartz pebbles to represent semen and cowrie shells the vagina -- must be almost as ancient.

But all this evolves over time. On one hand, the symbolism gets abstracted further and further away from the original reference points in the natural environment and the human body. On the other, we are able to penetrate more deeply into those mysteries of existence that blood or gold were originally taken to represent.

I think I've suggested here before that people like, say, Dick Cheney, are atavistic throwbacks and that the behavior that evokes horror today was taken as perfectly normal in a Bronze Age god-king. (Or even in a Bronze Age hero, for that matter. The first time I actually managed to make it all the way through the Odyssey and read the description of how the returning Odysseus strings his wife's unsuccessful suitors from the rafters and tortures them to death, I lost the greater part of my nostalgia for epic heroes.)

So in large part, I'm with IC -- things really do change, and frequently for the better.

On the other hand, there's a far more difficult joker in the pack, and that is the concept of sacrifice. Sacrifice isn't just a symbol of something else -- it's a basic part of human nature. It's not only in all the stories but even in things like books on cleaning out your clutter -- that giving up stuff you thought you needed but that was really holding you back clears the way for fresh creative growth.

In addition, sacrifice by one person can empower someone else. Again, this can be as simple and familiar as immigrant parents working 14 hours a day to send the kids to college so they can have a better life. It both energizes the kids and puts a powerful ob on them to succeed. There's a kind of arithmetic to that that every human understands.

But where it gets really tricky is with what the anthropologists call "acquisitive sacrifice" -- that is, sacrifice which is based on greed and which largely comes out of somebody else's hide. Basically, this kind of distortion came into existence only with the invention of rich people. If you're poor, killing one pig can be a major sacrifice. But if you're rich, you can sacrifice a hundred and think of nothing except what kind of goodies you're going to give back from the gods -- that plus how impressed the neighbors will be.

So perhaps we should be talking about human sacrifice and not specifically blood-ritual. That is, I think, the real pivot point here, rather than the gruesome details.

10/19/2006 08:54:00 PM  
Anonymous noen said...

From the Báthory Erzsébet FAQ

http://bathory.org/p-erzsfaq.html

"This is the heart of the mystery of Erzsébet. No one knows these answers -- and there will be no real clues until we can read those diaries. What we do know is that Erzsébet was born into the most powerful family in Eastern Europe ... so great, they changed the name of the family to 'bathor' -- valiant. István (King Stephen the Great) ruled nearly all of present-day Hungary, Slovakia, and Romania. Erzsébet was reported to be precocious and exquisitely beautiful and transparently pale, china white ... the latter a characteristic of Hungarian beauty to this day. The skin seems so thin you can see the blood vessels under it even in the healthiest of children. She was educated in written and spoken Hungarian, Latin, and German, and was apparently fluent in all of them. She must also have had some knowledge of the language of the Ottomans (what was it then? Turkish?). She studied everything a Western boy-child might study, but in that more matriarchal society it was natural for her to do that. The men would fight. The women would negotiate. And that was one of her roles, keeping the Ottomans from Vienna for years. If you look at the geography of that area, you can see how the castles of the day formed a line along the formidable Vah, Vtala and Danube. That was her domain.

So if we think about her as not only beautiful among her own kin, but also made to believe that she was a truly great beauty, we can guess how she must have hated her servants at Cséjthe. They were Slovak -- coarse of demeanor by the standards of that time's often inbred Hungarian nobility. This prejudice becomes exaggerated because Hungarians are not Westerners, nor is their language. They look different, as I've said: paler, more delicate. And the language is very harmonious, part of the Finno-Ugric group (the only Western languages that do not arise originally from Sanskrit, and surviving today as Hungarian, Finnish, Estonian, and Karelian). [Note March 2002: Jonathan Saxon tells me Finno-Ugric languages are still spoken in the Mari-El and Udmurt Republics in central Russia.] The accent is without exception on the first syllable, and prepositional agreement is harmonic -- that is, the prepositions (which appear appended to the end of words) must sound lovely with the noun they belong to, and different speakers may use different relationships to achieve that. So Erzsébet's native tongue was like song itself and her nobility was all a so-called 'translucent beauty'. But her servants were not only peasants, they were speakers of a Slavic language full of gutturals and hard consonants unknown in Hungarian, and they were coarse-skinned from her ethnically narrow viewpoint. She probably loathed them in look and sound and peasant smell.

That isn't enough, as you say, to torture and kill so many. So your word "disorder" has got to be included. I don't know how. Schizophrenia? To her family, she was an embarrassment -- power taken to extremes, once permitted because of her dominion and beauty. Later in life, as she became "very old" (over 50), and consumed by debt and making the mistake of killing Ilona Harczy (the minor Hungarian noblewoman in Vienna), she became politically vulnerable. She was taken to trial by Thurzo, the servants he hated were executed (along with Anna), and Erzsébet was imprisoned for more than two years in her own tower. How strong she still was to survive up there in that cold, alone, dirty and (eventually) sick to her death in 1614. That is the tower that still stands, and that you can see in my photos. It is a confounding sight, black even in the daylight."

10/19/2006 09:06:00 PM  
Blogger jules said...

Jeff that awesome image reminds me of the Dunwich Horror. A Lovecraft story for those that missed it.

I thought this was interesting:

"As expected, death by impalement was slow and painful. Victims sometimes endured for hours or days. Vlad often had the stakes arranged in various geometric patterns.

The most common pattern was a ring of concentric circles in the outskirts of a city that constituted his target. "

I used to be a bit obsessed by Vlad Tepes when I was a kid, just starting high school.

He has a wealth of weirdness about tho most of it was covered.

One story i remember is that there was a beautiful gold cup at the local fountain, and everyone had to drink from it. It was never stolen, such was the fear of punishment that he inspired.

I always wonder about that. Cups and chalices have a power of their own, thats why everyone drinks Jesus' blood from the same one.

The parabolic shape has its own effects too... Focal points and all that.

Its hard to take the Miloccult complex seriously cos its such a far out concept, and it could be a more comforting thought that some greater evil organises the chaos in the world. Cos it implies a greater force for good that could be invoked to counter the evil.

Where as if it is just a brain chemistry imbalance ...

Well it becomes sad and meaningless, just more pointless death for no good reason. I think a lot of readers here subscribe to this POV. They would argue its easier to invent gods and devils to make sense of the chaos than it is to face the fact that its just us (humanity ) wigging out. (You know, future shock and all that.)

There might be something in that attitude that has some merit.

But some people think there is little difference between brain chemistry and magic. I tend to that opinion myself.

You need a certain amount of doublethink working for you to be able to keep both ideas in mind at the same time, see which model fits the evidence better, and if there is any ovewrlap between the two worldviews.

Cos if killing people is just the ultimate expression of power with no occult overtones then the state of the world makes alot of sense.

But the only culture that denies some sacred religious worldview is the one from the west, and we have been responsible for what looks like the end of human life, and a lot of other life too. And lets face it, it ain't gonna change in time to save the planet from our destructive impulses.

There is a thing I learned doing chinese chi stuff, and some martial arts that had an excellant application playing footy.

Stealing from and shutting down other peoples chi flow, in a contest. its also happened to me, but can be turned around mid game.

Thats why I don't buy the straight material POV and can see pathways to exploitation of chi for personal power. And can see that extending to using war and execution.

I am wondering at this point about execution.

"Stage a lethal injection the night before an election
Cos he got a donation from the prison guards union."

You get strapped to a table or a chair or whatever it is, in the "death chamber". Then you are killed.

I always wonder why there is that big conductive tin foil hat doodad placed between the top of the head and the crown Chakra, during electrocutions.

Talking about the power of magic and necromancy in strictly logical terms may not work unless you are well aquainted with chi or orgone or prana or whatever its called. Cos there is an aspect of that chi flow that is vital to the process. If you don't accept the chi flow exists you are not going to fit the idea into any models of reality that you use.

This is a bit rambling but I am sure there is a point in there somewhere.

10/19/2006 09:10:00 PM  
Blogger jules said...

IN the context of the first bit of the first comment, by anony at 7.06.

The spirits have always been in control. But its humans that control what spirits get to be in control.

10/19/2006 09:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Oarwell said...

Starroute wrote:

"I think I've suggested here before that people like, say, Dick Cheney, are atavistic throwbacks and that the behavior that evokes horror today was taken as perfectly normal in a Bronze Age god-king."

Yes, a salient point. I've had many discussions with people about the "awfulness" of the OT, all the warfare and general bloody-mindedness. I usually respond by noting that those were bloody times: I mean, imagine life in 1000 BC! Or, fast-forward 2,850 years, to our own execrable treatment of the indians, as someone touched on above. These things were considered normative for their times, even though (most) people today find them repugnant.

Although it is fashionable to moan about nascent fascism, the truth is, the moral climate of our times is vastly improved over those of our predecessors. With one glaring exception: codes of conduct in warfare. Although slaughter of civilians seemed commonplace in ancient times, and there were instances of it occurring in the Middle Ages (such as the sack of Jerusalem), professional armies from roughly 800 AD to 1800 AD limited their destruction to the battlefield, and ended the battles at dusk to allow recovery of the wounded and burial of the dead. Exceptions, yes, but this was by and large the Rule of War. It was the American Civil War, in particular Sherman, who ended this.

Nowadays, of course, the targeting of civilians and their infrastructure is routine, a matter of policy, epitomized by the firebombings of German and Japanese cities and, more recently, the bombing of Belgrade and the destruction of Fallujah. But even Fallujah was no Carthage, or Hiroshima. The nefandous warpigs who today call for the nuking of Iran are restrained by a large body of people who find such ideas abhorrent; who, unlike Herman Kahn, do not wish to "think the unthinkable."

The very idea of proportionality is mercy vivified. It is progress, tangible, humane, and good.

10/19/2006 09:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Thrace said...

Dugoboy-
You're onto something with your observation about ' Freedom is on the March'...
I persoally believe when the president uses the words Freedom, Liberty and a few other select words and phrases, he's using what some call command language. In other words, he's using words that are meant to have a particular impact, especially to people who've become conditioned by listening to his speeches closely, time after time. About a year ago, I began counting the number of times he'd use the words freedom or liberty during his speeches. He's slacked off a bit lately, but when he's on a tear, it's not unusual for him to use each word half a dozen times or more. I firmly believe these words send certain listeners into a light trance. Talk about turning freedom into a verb! It also occours to me that if he actually worships Freedom or Liberty as the goddess figures they originally were, his speeches would be written no differently. 'Freedom is on the march' indeed...

10/19/2006 09:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oarwell said...

Starroute wrote:

"I think I've suggested here before that people like, say, Dick Cheney, are atavistic throwbacks and that the behavior that evokes horror today was taken as perfectly normal in a Bronze Age god-king."

Yes, a salient point. I've had many discussions with people about the "awfulness" of the OT, all the warfare and general bloody-mindedness. I usually respond by noting that those were bloody times: I mean, imagine life in 1000 BC! Or, fast-forward 2,850 years, to our own execrable treatment of the indians, as someone touched on above. These things were considered normative for their times, even though (most) people today find them repugnant. Although it is fashionable to moan about nascent fascism, the truth is, the moral climate of our times is vastly improved over those of our predecessors.


Actually this is all due to more territorial state formation. Before all that, particularly clear in Europe now (as it was elsewhere before), all those 'Venus' figures are from an archaeological layer where no one is in evidence dying violently. Then it gets into a period after that with larger territorial state formation--perhaps innately psychopathological frameworks of thralldom in power as the mechanisms of the larger jurisdictions--which we still have presently. So, yes, on your point. Thoguh no, that it's always been like this (which is once more overly close to saying it is genetically hardwired, which is obviously false, at least from the huge difference before say, around 3500 BCE or so.

With one glaring exception: codes of conduct in warfare. Although slaughter of civilians seemed commonplace in ancient times, and there were instances of it occurring in the Middle Ages (such as the sack of Jerusalem),...

perhaps occult bloodlines issue there, attempting to get out from the Roman Catholic Church, with de Bouillons lineage off the Merovingians, and all that.

...professional armies from roughly 800 AD to 1800 AD limited their destruction to the battlefield, and ended the battles at dusk to allow recovery of the wounded and burial of the dead. Exceptions, yes, but this was by and large the Rule of War. It was the American Civil War, in particular Sherman, who ended this.

More bloodlines. Sherman comes from the largest inbred 'clump' of families in Skull and Bones:

This is the White- Sherman- Rogers- Baldwin- Evarts- Thatcher- Burr- Day nexus of families.

This clump is attached to the mainline of Cheneys (like all the other main clumps), via the particular attachment to the Cheney-Thorne- Kerry-Heinz branch.

Thus, psychopathology of families in state power are very much an intergenerational phenomena in Skull and Bones families putting them in the same setting to the kind of situations that yeilded the Vlad/Barthody intergenerational psychopathy.

10/19/2006 10:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Oarwell said...

One last thought, and then I'm returning to the real land of dreaming.

This snip from the NYT review of Clint (that name!) Eastwood's "Flags of our Fadda's:"

"It’s because Mr. Eastwood insists, with a moral certitude that is all too rare in our movies, that we extract an unspeakable cost when we ask men to kill other men."

Did any Roman, any Carthaginian, any Thracian or Viking, ever pen such a line? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the very notion that there are costs attendant on bringing men to kill one another is a modern one, incomprehensible to our pagan ancestors. Neocon "intellectuals," such as Victor Davis Hanson, would have us believe that our forefathers were "made of sterner stuff;" but I would suggest, as per comments above, that they were simply less civilized than we are.

The Times' reviewer insists this film is NOT a paean to war, that it serves as "a gentle corrective" to 'Saving Private Ryan, with its state-of-the-art carnage and storybook neatness."

But then there's this:

"...Mr. Eastwood’s film suggests metaphysics. Once again, he takes us into the heart of violence and into the hearts of men, seeing where they converge under a night sky as brightly lighted with explosions as any Fourth of July nocturne and in caves where some soldiers are tortured to death and others surrender to madness. He gives us men whose failings are evidence of their humanity and who are, contrary to our revolted sensitivities, no less human because they kill."

Wait a sec! What about those "costs" mentioned above? Oh well, this is the Times, and if the writer's trope fits with the zeitgeist, then, well...what were you expecting? Hannah Arendt?

"No less human because they kill." Oy. Imagine THAT line pressed into service at Nuremberg.

(Interestingly, though, Eastwood's next film will tell the story of Iwo Jima from the Japanese perspective.)

10/19/2006 10:21:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

starroute,
There is an alternative to the nastiness of "acquisitive sacrifice" that you mention upstream: reciprocal altruism, from which the former was perverted. Reciprocal altruism benefits both sides and spreads the meme further with every instance of its use. It's a "trend" we that we should embrace to counter the shriveling fear that spreads in the wake of monster stories in whatever guise and purpose that they're spread.

Oarwell,
Thanks for Clint Update--very chillingly transparent. I wonder if Mickey Z has thrashed him yet in the same fashion that he exposed Spielberg's S.P.R.?

10/19/2006 11:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quote:

"So is psychopathology psychological or due to a combination of geopolitics/formal institutions as they have have been constructed so far? Or do you now see the stupidity of even asking such a purist question, one way or the other?"

Lobaczewski's assertion is that true psychopathy is an inherited, genetic deficit in the "instinctual substratum" and has always been with us.

He also describes "characteropaths" who exhibit deviant behavior--the prime example is the paranoia of Stalin, which L attributes to frontal lobe damage Stalin sustained as a child. These are due to injury or illness, such as mumps, and have environmental causes.

Perhaps the geopolitics of Vlad's era selected psychopathy as a survival trait within his family? The psychopaths had an advantage and survived to breed, perhaps, while the kinder members died.

I know that regular conscience-endowed people can be traumatized and made neurotic, but I don't know if they truly become psychopathic. Brain damage or psychosurgery would surely affect their personality, though...

Does anybody know or have some reference text that can illuminate that issue?

10/19/2006 11:54:00 PM  
Anonymous humblenotry said...

Sarcasm is not my intention when I communicate this message. It is morbid and particularly upsetting to Americans. I am sorry if I annoy any persons of the choleric temperament especially. I'm sure that many of the posters here know that I am a Christian. This post has to to with the investigative study of history and not as a potential evangelist. Some people will be offended by this message.

The knowledge posted here is almost entirely stenographied from the writings of the author and historian Ralph Epperson.

Steve Martin in the movie The Jerk said to the priest before viewing the cat juggling video shoot, Roll the ugliness. This may be especially true if you are not familiar with this reality.

This intrigue has to do with the word tyranny. James Madison defined the word tyranny in Federalist Paper # 47:

The accumulation of all powers legislative, executive, and judiciary in the same hands. Whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self appointed, or elective may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.

James Madison, the father of the U.S. Constitution, later defined the word tyranny again by saying:

A tyrannical concentration of all the power of government in the same hands.

Montesquieu who was read by most of the early American patriots said:

There can be no liberty where the legislative and executive powers are united in the same body of magistrates.

The writers of the Declaration of Independence listed 28 specific evidences that King George was guilty of trading an oppressive government, a tyranny in the United States.

The 22nd grievance filed by them states the following:

King George has given his assent to the suspending of our own Legislatures and declaring themselves with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

THE POWER TO LEGISLATE IN ALL CASES WHATSOEVER. The very definition of the word tyranny.

The Constitution of the U.S. was issued in 1787. Eleven years after the Declaration of Independence. The founding fathers built an enormous front inside the Constitution. They actually created 2 separate governments and they gave one of those governments absolute tyrannical power. They had to build a front to conceal their crime. They had to construct an elaborate facade so that anyone who read the Constitution would see the power divided but not the power being centralized.

The U.S. Constitution is probably the most oppressive document ever written by man.

The Constitution created the Legislative Branch of Government in Article 1, the Executive Branch in Article 2, and the Judicial Branch in Article 3. Article 1 Section 8 grants 18 specific powers to Congress. Power to collect taxes, power to coin money, power to establish Post Offices, and power to declare war amongst others. We believed these specific powers restricted the power of Congress. Then we relied on the 10th Amendment which they inserted as the last of the Bill of Rights. The 10th Amendment reads:

The powers not delegated to the U.S. by the Constitution nor prohibited by it to the States are reserved to the States respectively or to the People.

We thought that these restrictions in the 10th Amendment protected our rights. If you read that Amendment carefully you will notice what it actually says. It says that the founding fathers gave all power to the U.S. Government and that all power left over remains with the People or the States. If you give all power to the Federal Government there is no power left to give to the People. The 10th Amendment destoys human rights. It does not protect them.

We thought that if we did not specifically give them any powers they did not have it. But in and amongst these grants of power they placed the cancer cell. The one they knew would destroy the very Republic they were creating. This is what they wrote in Article 1 Section 8 Clause 17. The cancer cell, the fatal flaw of the Constitution of the United States of America.

Congress shall have the power to exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever

The Declaration of Independence stated that King George had taken the power to legislate in all cases whatsoever. It is impossible not to conclude that the founding fathers gave Congress tyrannical power. They did so in Article 1 Section 8 Clause 17. They knew exactly what they were doing and used the same words. It was only 11 years after the writing of the Declaration of Independence.

It continues to read: over such Districts as may become the Seat of Government in the United States.

This pertains to Washington D.C. as Congress has absolute tyrannical power over the people there. No representation in Washington D.C. It is taxation without representation. They only have this power in Washington D.C. Congress then excludes the 17th Clause in its rulermanship of the other 50 States and applies the Bill of Rights. Congress specifically has unlimited power to rule in the District of Columbia. There are 2 Constitutional Governments in America.

The 14th Amendment was passed in 1868 after the Civil War. It reads in part: all persons born or naturalized in the U.S.(the Congress in D.C. only) and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States. The question of what we were before the 14th Amendment now arises. So prior to the 14th Amendment what were we? We were people who lived by God-given rights. Now according to the 14th Amendment we are citizens who live by government granted privileges. We the People are now citizens of the U.S. Being born outside of Washington D.C. now means you are a naturalized citizen.

*warning this is not pleasant*

We became a naturalized citizen by voluntarily accepting a Social Security card issued by the government of the U.S. When we accepted our Social Security card we voluntarily gave up our sovereignty to the tyrannical government of the U.S. We gave up our sovereignty to a foreign government called the Government of the United States. When we did that we voluntarily granted that government total tyrannical jurisdiction over us.

10/20/2006 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quote:

"About a year ago, I began counting the number of times he'd use the words freedom or liberty during his speeches. He's slacked off a bit lately, but when he's on a tear, it's not unusual for him to use each word half a dozen times or more. I firmly believe these words send certain listeners into a light trance. Talk about turning freedom into a verb!"

Those knowledgable in Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) and deep patterning of language would not be surprised.

"Freedom" most certainly a "trance word" for many people, and human beings in general are trance machines. Trance and suspension of disbelief are central to storytelling.

It would be interesting to know if there are any stacked language patterns in his speeches. Look for "weasel phrases" that deflect critical thought and increase suggestibility. "Can you imagine..." or "What would it be like if..." are examples. "Once upon a time..." is also an example.

Does he mostly use "process language" and describe his target state and how that state comes about?

Does he embed tonality shifts and use "command tonality" on his key statements with his voice (typified by a drop in pitch at the end of a phrase)?

I'm not sure myself because the man gives me hives whenever I hear him speak. I can't stand to listen to him.

It also occurs to me that Bush's verbal stumbling might actually serve to "entrain" and fractionate people's attention through expectation.

This stuff also shows up in military recruiting and sales.

Tucker Carlson ran an NLP pattern right before Cheney's debate with Edwards, going on about how some NYTimes columnist he knew found herself feeling soothed when she listened to Cheney's voice. Quoting someone else's experience of an experiential/perceptual process is also a common deflection tactic to bypass critical consideration. He was clearly prepping the audience to experience Cheney's tonality in a favorable way.

10/20/2006 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous jon said...

oarwell: like your stuff.

anyone heard (or maybe *everyone* has heard and i am only the last one) about TBRNews' claim that they have the 'real' figures of the death toll in iraq? they write, at http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2546.htm,

"There is excellent reason to believe that the Department of Defense is deliberately not reporting a significant number of [US military] dead in Iraq. We have received copies of manifests from the MATS that show far more bodies shipped into Dover AFP than are reported officially. The actual death toll is in excess of 10,000. Given the officially acknowledged number of over 15,000 seriously wounded (and a published total of 25,000 wounded overall,), this elevated death toll is far more realistic than the current 2,000+ now being officially published. When our research is complete, and watertight, we will publish the results along with the sources In addition to the evident falsification of the death rolls, at least 5,500 American military personnel have deserted, most in Ireland but more have escaped to Canada and other European countries, none of whom are inclined to cooperate with vengeful American authorities. (See TBR News of 18 February for full coverage on the mass desertions) This means that of the 158,000 U.S. military shipped to Iraq, 26,000 deserted, were killed or seriously wounded. The DoD lists currently being very quietly circulated indicate over12,000 dead, over 25,000 seriously wounded and a large number of suicides, forced hospitalization for ongoing drug usage and sales, murder of Iraqi civilians and fellow soldiers, rapes, courts martial and so on -

The government gets away with these huge lies because they claim, falsely, that only soldiers actually killed on the ground in Iraq are reported. The dying and critically wounded are listed as en route to military hospitals outside of the country and not reported on the daily postings. Anyone who dies just as the transport takes off from the Baghdad airport is not listed and neither are those who die in the US military hospitals. Their families are certainly notified that their son, husband, brother or lover was dead and the bodies, or what is left of them (refrigeration is very bad in Iraq what with constant power outages) are shipped home, to Dover AFB. This, we note, was the overall policy until very recently. Since it became well known that many had died at Landstuhl, in Germany, the DoD began to list a very few soldiers who had died at other non-theater locations. These numbers are only for show and are pathetically small in relationship to the actual figures...."

TBR was touting the 600,000-iraqis-dead figure well before the msm; maybe they're on to something here...

10/20/2006 12:24:00 AM  
Anonymous inconcievable cullingwish said...

ignorant materialists, always trying to quantify everything.

10/20/2006 12:30:00 AM  
Blogger jules said...

Anony 11.54. there is a plethora of cases of people suffering brain damage and then losing the ability to relate to other humans, developing sociopathic and psychopathic tendencies.

The first one of record was some bloke that survived having a railway spike driven through his brain, can't remember the details, but its in just about every first year psyche course in the world.

I dunno if thats what you are referring to tho. Physical trauma and structural damage may not have the same effects on the brain as non physical trauma.

Humblenotry

Can you explain how it goes from this:

The powers not delegated to the U.S. by the Constitution nor prohibited by it to the States are reserved to the States respectively or to the People.

to this:

Congress shall have the power to exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever.

The powers >>Not delegated to the US by the constitution<<

Nor prohibited by it to the states.

Are reserved to the states..?

Thats the bit I am not following.

Otherwise I'd be inclined to agree with you.

Also are rights inalienable in the US constitution?


Inconcievable cullingwish ... that has to be the best handle I have seen here. Very appropriate and clever indeed.

10/20/2006 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Lobaczewski's assertion is that true psychopathy is an inherited, genetic deficit in the "instinctual substratum" and has always been with us.

Sorry, most psychological argumentation is just tautology. It's inconceivable how anyone can argue by tautology, i.e., "it is, because it is, and the proof that it is, is demonstrated by it being so." Most exclusively materialist forms of ontology are somewhat pained tautologous statments, I would argue.

tautology

n 1: (logic) a statement that is necessarily true; "the statement `he is brave or he is not brave' is a tautology" 2: useless repetition; "to say that something is `adequate enough' is a tautology"

tautology

(logic) A proposition which is always true.

Compare: paradox.

Compare: syllogism.

syl‧lo‧gism 
–noun

1. Logic. an argument the conclusion of which is supported by two premises, of which one (major premise) contains the term (major term) that is the predicate of the conclusion, and the other (minor premise) contains the term (minor term) that is the subject of the conclusion; common to both premises is a term (middle term) that is excluded from the conclusion. A typical form is “All A is C; all B is A; therefore all B is C.”
2. deductive reasoning.
3. an extremely subtle, sophisticated, or deceptive argument.
[i.e., "Stalin is this way because his brain was this way, and that made him the way he was, because (shuffling, looking at feet...er...), because he was that way." Did that really explain anything, or just explain away something?]

"I'm reading Lobaczewski's "Political Ponerology" (poneros being Greek for "evil") and his psychiatric perspective is illuminating."

It's a closed loop though. A great deal of that ancient text link on psychopathy seems to have been written tongue in cheek with Stephen's Guide to the Logical Fallacies in hand. There's a link for you--to illuminate quite a lot...particularly the way most argumentation unfortunately works in practice. And don't call me Shirley.

10/20/2006 03:02:00 AM  
Anonymous humblenotry said...

Thanks Jules for your response. I admit this knowledge is rather depressing.

A sovereign is a free man who lives by God-given inalienable rights. Prior to the 14th Amendment we were called sovereign citizens of the State in which you were born or simply Americans. But after the 14th Amendment we were called citizens of the government of the United States. A citizen is one who lives by government granted privileges by which these privileges can be taken away by the grantor. A right is something that cannot be taken away except by the grantor in this case meaning the Creator God of the bible. We have lost our sovereignty.

If we did not give Congress any specific power that they did not have, where did the founding fathers give Congress the power to tax us to build a space telescope? To take pictures of the distant planets. How could our founding fathers have listed that in Article 1 Section 8 Clauses 1-16 & 18. How could they have envisioned such a thing? How could they have written Congress shall have the power to build telescopes that shall be placed in orbit above the earth to take photographs of distant planets? How could they have even dreamed about such a thing in the 1780's? Yet Congress has taxed us to build the Hubble Space Telescope.

If we had the ability to go back to 1776 when they were debating the powers to give to Congress and we had asked them to include a provision granting us power to build a space telescope. Just what do you think their answer would have been to our request? They would have said, "There is no such thing as a space telescope." They could not have conceived such a thing in 1780. Yet in the 1980's Congress passed legislation creating the power to orbit the Hubble Space Telescope. Where did they get the power if the founding fathers did not give it to them? They got it from Article 1 Section 8 Clause 17.

Congress shall have the power to legislate in ALL cases whatsoever. So the Hubble Space Telescope confirms these allegations. Congress has unlimited power. Meaning they have the power to do whatever their jolly little hearts desire. The founding fathers tricked us by creating a hidden government and creating it as a tyrannical government. They were the Masons who wrote the Constitution.

The author of Article 1 Section 8 Clause 17 was the tyrannical Freemason James Madison. Third president of the United States. Objections made by Patrick Henry and others based upon the dangers to personal rights and liberties which Clause 17 presented were anticipated or replied to by Mr. Madison. According to the 1956 Eisenhower study entitled "Jurisdiction Over Federal Areas Within the States".

This study made this conclusion about Article 1 Section 8 Clause 17 written in the Constitution that it was included as a result of proposals made to the Constitutional Convention by James Madison. He knew this grant would cause controversy and anticipated it. Patrick Henry objected to the tyrannical powers of the provision. In the Eisenhower report it states that those who objected were assured that the rights of residents would be protected by appropriate reservations made by the States.

Whatever argument that Madison used convinced the dissenters that the rights would be protected by the States. But notice this incredible admission by the Eisenhower Commission in their report. It may be noted that this assurance has to this time born only little fruit.

The dissenters were lied to. Their rights were not protected by this incredible grant of power. They were hoodwinked by James Madison. We gave up our sovereignty by fradulent argument. Those who granted the power knew what they were doing. In other words there was cause for concern in 1787 and their was cause for concern in 1956. But nothing has been done to correct the situation. So Mr. Epperson says there is still cause for concern in 2006.

You can download a 2 hour lecture by him in Google Videos. Ralph Epperson. America's Secret Destiny. If you download videos from Google Videos make sure you delete the movies. Go to the file My Videos in your computer and double click it. Then go to Google Videos. The downloaded movies remain in the C: Drive. They will take up all your free space in C: Drive. I thought that I had a virus in my hardware. All the downloaded movies took up all my free space.

I hope I answered some of your questions.

10/20/2006 03:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Psychopathology Gone Wild:

What a story or book to be made about this group of many families:

The World's Billionaires (2005)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_billionaires_%282005%29

(I am skeptical that the Queen of England can only pull 700 milllion on the surface, when something I read from Skolnick's website noted information from the Queen's private bank, that she shared a $100 billion dollar drawing account with George H. W. Bush--which puts her as #1 globally without a peer in sight. Gotta be drug money for the Queenie Drug Lord, or is that Drug Lady...

10/20/2006 05:31:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Oarwell said.

Do you actually have evidence that Iraq is an exercise in alchemy

Good question Oarwell. This may peek your interest. The American embassy located on the 33rd degree and the banks of the Tigris is in the shape of a swastika with pentagram that is so large it can be viewed from the moon. (data source Sorcha Faal and her Russian compatriots)

10/20/2006 09:53:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Thrace said...
Dugoboy-
You're onto something with your observation about ' Freedom is on the March'...

I agree with the above but you missed the obvious meme that Iranian and Venezualan public speech brings to mind..

KING OF TERROR
In the year 1999 and seven months, The Great King of Terror shall come. from The Sky. He will bring to life the. King of the Mongols. Before and after, Mars rules happily"

My experience with Nostradamus is that it is possible to add the numbers he quotes or subtract as in centuries (from the 15th) to deceipher his intent. The two from above being 1999 + 7 = 2006.

Incidentally, has anyone actually seen a pic of Kenny Boy in the box?

10/20/2006 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Dan said...

I thought the Lonelygirl15 stuff was pretty amusing but, on the whole, far less believable than The Blair Witch project. The editing and cimematography is just too ham-handedly professional. As the emergence of a new genre, however, one which invites audience participation, the implications are wild. The lines between art and life continue to blur. (In The Soul's Code, James Hillman suggests that we live and judge our life as a poem.)

To make use of the Sufi enneagram as a personality typing system (a la Helen Palmer), of the nine types, the type One is most likely to be drawn to political activism. This is The Perfectionist. Ones achieve perfection by correcting errors in themselves, in those around them, and in society. Perfection is only possible if one adopts unambiguous standards. Shades of grey are invisible.

Although I find them intellectually repellent, I like to see them in charge of progressive activist groups. Like their enemies, they tend to be materialist in their assumptions. Unlike more nuanced thinkers, they never suffer from existential angst, the most paralysing force on the "left."

I can't imagine a One being much impressed, no matter how many baths Cheny is taking in babies' blood.

I am reminded of the culminating scene of the animated movie, Wizards. The evil wizard is about to cast the fatal spell on his brother, the good wizard, because his magical powers are so much stronger. The good wizard shoots him with a handgun.

Ones make excellent handguns.

10/20/2006 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous starroute said...

ericswan -

Baghdad was founded in 762 AD and quite deliberately designed according to a pattern of sacred geometry. (Not unlike Washington, DC.)

I spent some time a year or two ago trying to track down where I originally read this but couldn't come up with it. (It might be in Peter Tompkins' "Secrets of the Great Pyramid," which we loaned out some years ago and never got back.) I couldn't find it online, either.

If anybody knows where the information is available, I'd be extremely interested in comparing the original layout of the city to the current Green Zone and seeing if they line up.

10/20/2006 01:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

starroute writes:

Baghdad was founded in 762 AD and quite deliberately designed according to a pattern of sacred geometry. (Not unlike Washington, DC.) I spent some time a year or two ago trying to track down where I originally read this but couldn't come up with it. (It might be in Peter Tompkins' "Secrets of the Great Pyramid," which we loaned out some years ago and never got back.) I couldn't find it online, either. If anybody knows where the information is available, I'd be extremely interested in comparing the original layout of the city to the current Green Zone and seeing if they line up.

OK! Report back! :-) Here's some search terms for further research:

This information is from Matrix of Man: An Illustrated History of the Urban Environment, by Sibyl Moholy-Nagy (1969)

where on page 63 it says:

"Fig. 61. Plan of Baghdad, founded in A.D. 762 by the Abbasid caliph al-Mansur, whose patronage of the sciences marks the transition [how naive..] from astrology to astronomy. The strictly geometric arrangement of the central palace and the adjoining mosque within a perfect circle with compass-oriented gates seems like an abstract diagram of the concentric-planning concept, which had reached its apex and its termination."

Hardly termination. The London Millenium Dome deserves note--because it has numerological characteristics (gates/directions, etc.) of biblical Jerusalem's core city...

The Fig. 61 has an image of a perfect 'Greek key' sort of cross, four stubby squared off wings, off a central cube area with one side I assume is the north-east orientation with a wider cube building at that wing's end. Perhaps its toward some summer solstice or single day/shaft ray of light down the middle hallway--just my observation from a lot of other archaeoastronomical religious institutions and buildings inclusive of many 'Western Christian' churches actually and even Charlemagne's Aachen cathdral building and onward.

The same stellar line of sight on certain days and equinoxes/solstices occurs in Egypt at Karnak (Karnak has it both directions at once, same line of sight!; same as some aspects of ancient Egyptian Alexandrian orienations). Jerusalem's Holy of Holies lined up with the 1000 years periodic Shekiniah (which is a long term multi planetary conjunction seen only around once in a 1000 years that makes a supremely bright star looking event on the horizon.), and more generally, the light of Venus--a steller worship motif they got from the Phoenecians.

Fig. 61 in really fine print says (I may mispell it, its pretty blurred, that the core of this central archaeostronomical area was "Al-Qabba Al-Khadar"

Archaeostraonomical stone worship indeed.

"Fig. 62. A fasil, or wall street, in the second enclosure of the circular city of Baghdad, based upon Creswell's graphic reconstruction of the original plan. Although several aspects do not concur with his text, the fasils have been established and could have been derived from Khwarizm prototypes."

and a bit earlier:

"Fig. 56. The concentric city terrace of Firozabad (Gur) built by Ardashir, founder of the Sassanid Dynasty of Persia in the early third century B.C. Crossing main roads were oriented toward the compass needle points and the twelve city sectors were named after the signs of the zodiac."

...

"Fig. 57. Koy-krylgan Kale, Khwarizm (USSR), astronomical plan from the second century B.C. Khwarizm on the Oxus River developed a high culture from Chinese Han and Greek-Batrian influences, which vanished under the onslaught of the Mongol and Turkish invasions."

"Fig. 59. This reconstruction--by the Russian archaeologist, S. P. Tolstov--of Koy-krylgan Kale, the royal city of Kwarizm, fits the description of Baghdad (see Fig. 61) better than the modern reconstructions."

"Fig. 58. Further proof of the close interrelationship of Asiatic and American cultures is the astrolabic circle with twelve divisions, in the interior of the Inca forgress of Sacsahuaman above Cuzco, built in the fourteenth century A.D. From George Gubler, The Art and Architecture of Ancient America (1962)."

10/20/2006 04:01:00 PM  
Blogger RDR said...

"I persoally believe when the president uses the words Freedom, Liberty and a few other select words and phrases, he's using what some call command language."

I've made a similar observation, myself- that when George W. Bush makes a speech, it sounds like he's training a dog.

10/20/2006 08:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

I've made a similar observation, myself- that when George W. Bush makes a speech, it sounds like he's training a dog.

I've made a similar observation, myself- that when George W. Bush makes a speech, he sounds like a trained dog.

He couldn't train a dog for the life of him. He can't even wet his pants properly.

10/20/2006 08:21:00 PM  
Blogger RDR said...

Shrubaggedon- you're drunk right now, aren't you?

10/20/2006 11:21:00 PM  
Blogger tim in san francisco said...

From today's SF Chronicle:

Devil is in the details: As a congressman, William Dannemeyer had a bit of reputation for being out there -- well now, he's out there for convicted killer Scott Peterson, saying the former Modesto fertilizer salesman was wrongly convicted of killing his wife, Laci.

"I believe a grave injustice has been done. An innocent man is in prison and condemned to die for a crime that he did not commit,'' Dannemeyer, a seven-term GOP congressman who left office in 1993, wrote in a Sept. 20 letter to state Attorney General Bill Lockyer.

Dannemeyer, 77, who lives in Fullerton down in Orange County, thinks Peterson was the victim of sensational journalism and a Modesto Police Department that zeroed in on him and ignored evidence that the killer may have belonged to a satanic cult.

Dannemeyer said his belief in Peterson's innocence is based on the book "Presumed Guilty'' by Matt Dalton, a onetime member of the Peterson defense team.

"This is all about justice and proof," Dannemeyer told us. "I believe there is a satanic cult operating in this state, and I think that law enforcement has a responsibility to investigate."

To spread the word, Dannemeyer sent copies of his letter to each of the state's 58 district attorneys and each of the state's 58 sheriffs via "restricted mail" at $8.50 a pop, which comes to $986.

"Sometimes,'' Dannemeyer said, "you have to just spend the money because it's the right thing to do."

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