Wednesday, July 12, 2006

I Want to Disbelieve



"Have you heard the news?" he said, with a grin. "The Vice-President's gone mad."
"Where?" "Downtown." "When?" "Last night." "Hmm, say, that's too bad."
"Well, there's nothin' we can do about it," said the neighbor.
"It's just somethin' we're gonna have to forget."
"Yes, I guess so," said Ma. Then she asked me if the clothes was still wet. - Bob Dylan

Really, I do.

I've never understood that poster of Mulder's. He already believed, and after just a few episodes of monster chasing he shouldn't have needed to believe anymore. Hell, before the series even began Mulder had seen his sister abducted by greys. What remained for belief? To get Biblical on his ass, Paul wrote in Hebrews that "faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." He had the evidence of things seen. But more to the point, why would he want to hope for it?

I'd heard the histories told by high killers and their accomplices all my life, but I've known since I began to read on the subject that John Kennedy's murder, and that of his brother and Dr King, were acts of state. I've known, as well as I've known anything, ever, without having been there, done that myself.

But here's the thing: it didn't mean enough. The relevance wasn't sufficiently immediate for me to do anything about it, or even to think that I could. It was all too bad; such a shame, but life went on down here, even if I knew that up there things were terribly wrong. It had to, if I meant to finish my schooling, find work, fall in love - these things tend to crowd out the abstract. The voices in Dylan's song expressed interest in the news that the Vice President had gone insane, but there were still clothes on the line that needed to be taken in.

And then there was 9/11, and the immediacy became absolute and the abstract concrete. As George Bush asked the world that it "never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories," I could see the cost of too many people letting a privileged few get away with too much for too long. We'd gotten on with our lives, without knowing that this, too is our lives, and always has been. Well, now we know. And what we do about it, and about them, may determine whether we, as individuals or nations or an elevated species, live or die. We still have the choice, but only just.

I've never known the consolation of conspiracy theories, which psychological reductionists say all our research and timelines and contrary accounts amount to. "If you think it's a rogue person or an unsophisticated group you start worrying about your daily life," said Dr Cary Cooper two weeks after the towers fell. (And if it's the hand of a high cabal with no regard for the lives of useless eaters, then I suppose we should all breathe a collective sigh of relief.) Dr Patrick Leman concluded "that there is some underlying process in human psychology that assumes that the bigger the effect is, the bigger the cause must have been." Unconsidered in his study is the reluctance of power to leave its fortune to chance and its fate to commoners' justice.

Oh yeah: "Enron Witness Found Dead in Park." Help me, Doc, I keep seeing things.

68 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

From today's Memorial Service Program for Ken Lay: "Ken's last written words during his private time with God on July 4, 2006. 'We live by faith not by sight. 2 Corinthians 5:7'"

7/12/2006 04:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didn't leave the link for the funeral program. Hope it works!

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20060712/capt.3189fd0d287d438188a0389e3e5eada2.lay_funeral_txdp112.jpg

7/12/2006 04:28:00 PM  
Anonymous A. Magnus said...

First Mr. Skilling, then Mr. Lay, then the Chicago banker connected to the Enron fraud found dead in a park. These kinds of 'chance' occurences always happen to crooks, mob bosses and drug lords, but nobody EVER wants to contemplate that we are in fact ruled by such vermin.

Calling 'conspiracy theory' psychologically comforting sounds more like psychological projection from the coincidence theorist crowd. It's more comforting to think in terms of 'chance' or 'random acts' than to think that the bad guys (the powerful) have a vested interest and a plan for taking out the good guys (the powerless).

7/12/2006 04:28:00 PM  
Blogger sunny said...

Wow Jeff, syncronicity!

It must be projection, as someone said above. The debunkers are going to have to come up with something better than "conspiracies are comforting" because it stupid on it's face, and always gets trotted out at times of high parapolitical activity, as if people who believe in them take that crap seriously, and will abandon their silly ways so people won't think CT's make them feel good. And if people don't believe in CT's? Well, they might head on over to the other side, just to have a shoulder for their weary heads.

7/12/2006 04:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My take on Mulder's poster: "I want to believe" but I can't. Belief can exist only in a hopeful reality and it all seems entirely hopeless to me.

As far as the reality of conspiricy, just replace the words conspiracy with 'business' and try telling every story with the idea that there is a business theory that says so and it becomes entirely believable. A group of men who go off and formulate ideas to increase their power and prestige = business meeting.

7/12/2006 05:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you've watched all of X-Files, you might understand the meaning behind Mulder's poster in his office.

For one, his crusade is for the truth to be known, but he also wants to find his sister.

In any case, "I Want To Believe" does not merely represent Mulder's wanting to believe in aliens/ufo's, because like you said, he's seen the truth. People simply don't believe him, of these great discoveries or even the conspiracies/corruption that is within the government.

7/12/2006 05:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Zero said...

It's difficult to see the truth so openly, so plainly, and so arrogantly paraded in stark daylight while your brothers and sisters continue to look down on the spot directly before their feet as they shuffle diligently, sleepwalking to the slaughter. How can those of us that dare raise our heads and look into the eyes of truth continue what feels like a sisyphusian endeavor when those who we try to save continue to fight against us?
It would be comforting to think of lies reaching some critical mass that pops the soap bubble of consensus reality. We could have hope if there was a tipping point to evil that would cause the mob to all look up and rub the sleep out their eyes.

It's funny that mention is made in today's post of the trinity of crusaders that were struck down by those who would not see their machinations undone. One wonders if it's still possible for such individuals to rise to a level enabling them to affect meaningful change in today's society which is so much better equipped to strike down those who would dare rock the boat.

Ultimately, sadly, it seems that our future holds no more noble crusaders who are able to oppose the agents of the darker heart of man. The only way to stop a war machine is with a monkey wrench. Words alone are no longer sufficient. There are those of us who are willing to do more. Until those in power are pushed hard enough to cause them to carelessly lash out, the average citizen will never understand what kind of monsters they have allowed to nest in the halls of power.

Enjoy these, our salad days, and marvel at the spectacle and color of the twilight of an empire.

7/12/2006 06:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A. Magnus said...

"First Mr. Skilling, then Mr. Lay, then the Chicago banker connected to the Enron fraud found dead in a park."

What do you mean by “First Mr. Skilling?” Unlike Lay and the Chicago banker he isn’t dead. I’m not sure why you’re lumping him in with “These kind of “chance” occurences…” Am I missing something? I probably am. Please expound.

P.S. And Skilling doesn’t deserve to be referred to as Mr.

Harker

7/12/2006 08:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate to bring up references, but I have known dozens of Ph.D.s in psychology…they are as institutionalized as any given US politician. I wouldn’t trust their opinion regarding conspiracy theory no matter how many diplomas were hung. It’s obvious they have taken but a cursory glance at the subject matter and have decided that what ever is under the rug belongs under the rug. There are a few psychologists who may defy convention ( the Dennis Kucinichs of psychology? ), but they remain within the boundaries and comfort of a conformist occupation. The fringe is dangerous position, it takes years of work and a truckload of cash to achieve the coveted Ph.D. and seconds to destroy the prestige of this position with off-the-wall conspiracy theories, they are as indoctrinated as the average news reporter. Besides, what would you expect from a pig like the BBC but a grunt?

As for the urbane Agent Mulder…you know Jeff, sometimes you gotta fight fiction with fiction. X-files exposed an extensive audience to a world they were afraid to acknowledge. I became a fan of the show (yeah, here comes the bias) because it reminded me of the Twilight Zone. The show was a ripe environment for exploring the bizarre and unexplainable. We spend too much time second-guessing ourselves around here, explaining ourselves to the stiffs is of little benefit. I’m not sure there is or will be a Rosetta stone of conspiracy ( “all along the tin foil hat people were right!” ), but I am sure it is a waste of time to seek it. We see the truth; others may “believe” what they want. Maybe Mr. Consonant (sorry, I only call them Presidents when they’re democratically elected) said it best “Do I trust the word of a madman and forget the lessons of September the 11th, or take action to defend this country?” Madman indeed.

7/12/2006 08:25:00 PM  
Anonymous starroute said...

A. Magnus -

I assume your "first" should be not Skilling but J. Clifford Baxter -- the former Enron executive who was found shot in his car on a highway median in Sugar Land, TX in January 2002, shortly before he was apparently about to spill the beans.

7/12/2006 08:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

I think Magnus meant Cliff Baxter, and as someone posted a few threads back, his alleged suicide is quite suspicious.

7/12/2006 08:35:00 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

"First Mr. Skilling"

Maybe a. magnus meant Cliff Baxter. (It is hard to keep track of them all. Kinda puts me in mind of that Sixties' black comedy, The Wrong Box.)

7/12/2006 08:37:00 PM  
Anonymous xsic bastardx said...

Bravo.

7/12/2006 08:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Wow, talk about Syncronicity. Three great minds converge at once to set the record straight. :-)

7/12/2006 08:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cliff Baxter, who "wrote" and "signed" his suicide note in block letters...uh yeah, right, that makes sense. Who also had hired bodyguards the day before and told his closest friend on the phone that night that he was in fear for his life.

BTW, I wouldn't call the JFK assassination and "act of state." It was a coup by rogue elements within and without the "state" but clearly in the thick of the power structure. John Handy has the best and most complete documentary on it I've ever seen. After watching it, little doubt remains as to the who, though he's a bit shakey on the why, pointing mainly to JFK's planned "dismemberment" of the CIA, and leaving out the printing of Silver Certificates that summer, in defiance of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank. Then there was his plan to withdraw the 15,000 green beret "advisors" from Viet Nam.

LBJ recalled all the Silver Certificates and printed no more, hence the burgeoning federal debt to the central bankers. He immediately began escalating the Viet Nam war, peaking a handful of years later with a half million soldiers, AND he appointed Allen Dulles, CIA director whom JFK loathed and was about to put out of the gov't intelligence business, to head the official "investigation" into the assassination.

7/12/2006 08:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aaah yes. Magnus mean't Baxter. I should have realized that one myself.

And just to throw this question out there....

Does anyone think there might be a connection with the put options placed before 9-11 and the people involved in Cheney's secret energy task force meetings like, oh I don't know, Lay and Skilling? They were a couple of greedy fellows and who knows, maybe they just couldn't keep themselves from shooting fish in a barrel?

Harker

7/12/2006 09:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man, there is some HEAVY internal edition going on on this post every day.

I posted what I will try and reconstruct below, only to see it go up and then disappear a few minutes later. WTF is up with that?

Cliff Baxter, who “wrote” and “signed” his suicide note in block letters, uh, yeah, right......that makes sense. Who had hired two bodyguards the day before, and who told his closest friend on the telephone that night that he was in fear for his life. Yeah, a suicide.

And I think it is quite inaccurate to label the assassination of JFK an “act of state”, if by state you mean the duly elected representatives of the people (before Diebold), attempting to fulfill their Constitutional duties.

JFK was killed by rogue elements within and without of the gov’t, but solidly within the prevailing power structure – that is why they were never “caught.” John Handy has by far the best documentary film on this subject I have ever seen. Check out his website. After seeing the film one can have little doubt as to the who – but even Handy is a bit shaky, or trepidatious, on the why. He chalks the motivation up to the CIA/Skull&Bonesmen of Averill Harriman/Prescott and Geo. Bush/et al, to prevent Kennedy’s announced “dismemberment” of the CIA.

But Handy neglects, at least in the 40 minute truncated film I saw, to mention JFK’s issuance into circulation in August of 1963 of U.S. Silver Certificates, a new currency backed by the gov’ts own metal reserves, in defiance of the privately owned Federal Rerserve Bank. Not to mention his intention to recall the 15,000 green beret “observers” from Viet Nam.

Almost immediately after JFK was killed, LBJ withdrew the Silver Certificates from circulation and cancelled the issuance of any more, hence positioning the Federal Reserve Banks to profit from the coming explosion interest-bearing war debt, which occurred when LBJ began to escalate the war, peaking a handful of years later with a half million US troops in Viet Nam, and tens of billions in the coffers of the central bankers to pay for it “on loan” rather than directly from the gov’ts own scrip. The same thing happened to Abraham Lincoln, ie. assassination, when he issued “Greenbacks” U.S. currency directly out of the Treasury rather than borrowing the money from the Bank of New York and their City of London controllers at the proffered 30% interest.

Oh, and LBJ appointed CIA director Allen Dulles to conduct the official “investigation” into the JFK assassination, and report to the jury-rigged Warren Commission.

Yeah, that Cliff Baxter.............

7/12/2006 09:29:00 PM  
Blogger Prof. Hex said...

As to Skilling, from Wiki:

Skilling had a breakdown on the streets of New York City in April 2004, in which he harassed people on the street and accused total strangers of being undercover FBI agents. Police responding to the 911 calls found him uncooperative and concluded that he was emotionally disturbed and in need of emergency assistance.

Perhaps he was slipped something. Regardless, it seems that a clean-up is in the works. I wonder what prompted it?

7/12/2006 10:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In my opinion, having seen and been disappointed by "The Smartests Guys in the Room," a puffed up documentary of the Enron scandal, that nonetheless had its moments, I think that the Wall St. banks amongst others might have something to lose.

In the film, they depict the banks as victims to the Enron execs accounting trickery. But perhaps the banks or bankers knew what was up, I mean, they're bankers after all, and played along, knowing full well that they would have plausible deniability.

It matters little. In any case, there were, most likely, hundreds, if not thousands, or even tens of thousands of powerful people who profitted from the Enron fiasco. What, do you think ALL of them are going to give it back?

These clowns are sacrificial lambs thrown to the slaughter to quell a bloodthirsty public. That's it. It's all a ritual we've seen before. Scapegoating. That entire company and everything it touched was a cesspool of self-delusion and moral turpitude. Remember those recorded calls of the traders? As above, so below.
The small fry lose their hats, the figureheads get decapitated, but the others get away scot-free.

I wonder what happened to that Chinese guy, Mr. Pi[sp?]. He got out early with a lot of money and moved to Hawaii with a stripper he married. I wonder how many other Pis are running around.

The name of the game is definitely follow the money.

7/12/2006 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous TG said...

anon 8:25 said:

"I'm not sure there is or will be a Rosetta Stone of Conspiracy..."

Golly, isn't that what keeps us up late, with slim pickin's in the fridge?...the search for what we 'know' is there---the unifying principle of 'the adversary'---
somewhere between the camel smoker and our own image in the mirror...

the intermediate realities, when it's still 'the other', unified and opposing 'me',
in time: many thousands of years.
in space: fluid in the various dimensions.
in intent: to subvert our growth for its own power and sustenance.

form changing, and difficult to pin down for long in time and space...

nonetheless, tracking the 'historical' record has been useful to this guy here...

sheesh-- what do I know-- just don't tell me it's not there.

7/13/2006 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous dan said...

News from the front:

Random acts of kindness on the increase.

http://tinyurl.com/hmr7g

It might all seem a bit masturbatory, were it not for the fact that the net is making it possible for anyone to loan small sums of money directly to people in the Dire Straits of Africa and India. Wish I could find the url on that.

And did you read the article about how cell phones are changing the Congo?

I shouldn't even post if all my links are on another computer. But, forgive me, I think "there is a deeper wave than this, rising in the world."

7/13/2006 02:50:00 AM  
Anonymous mondo said...

Jeff and co., did you catch the Sorcha Faal article this week going into detail about the deaths of Ken Lay and the serious injury of Colin Powell?
Powell got sick enough to be rushed to the hospital, I suspect the malidymost likely in direct retaliation by the planned American Union, Queen Elizabeth factions. He became ill slowly after dinner in Aspen VaLLEY Hospital, the same Aspen Hospital that Ken Lay was taken to the day before.

The claim is that there's COunter-Coup and Corp forces at work behind the scenes at the Aspen retreat. The oddest thing is all id that these two factions are play a bigger role, I suspect

7/13/2006 04:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"In the film, they depict the banks as victims to the Enron execs accounting trickery. But perhaps the banks or bankers knew what was up, I mean, they're bankers after all, and played along, knowing full well that they would have plausible deniability."

I just watched the film last night and that is not the case. The film specifically said the banks had to have been complicit and knowing about the scams. There could be no other conclusion.

7/13/2006 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I used to enjoy conspiracy theories as idle speculation, but they weren't so much fun anymore when they started invading the real world.

7/13/2006 10:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

So, how come Skilling and Fastow are still alive? Either they didn't know everything, i.e. containment, or there is no larger conspiracy than has been reported officially.

If Skilling knew as much as Lay, wouldn't he be dead by now, assuming "they" killed Lay, Baxter and the Banker in England? Of course, there's still time. Prison's a pretty hostile place where inmates are murdered periodically, i.e. Jeffrey Dahmer. However, Fastow's been in prison for quite some time now, and he hasn't been stabbed to death in the shower yet.

Any thoughts?

7/13/2006 10:25:00 AM  
Blogger sunny said...

Skilling knows plenty, you can take that to the bank.

Some are coerced into silence by threats to a potential whistleblowers family. Some are bribed, some are blackmailed, and some are murdered. It all works the same.

7/13/2006 10:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

sunny said...
Skilling knows plenty, you can take that to the bank.


Considering we are on the verge of WW3, I think I'll take it in gold and hide it under the mattress, thank you.

In that case, I don't think Lay's dead, unless, of course, he was sacrificed to reinforce what will happen to anyone who even thinks about squealing. Same goes for Colin Powell. Just a friendly reminder that we mean business.

7/13/2006 10:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous @ 9:29"

Related to your comments, from an article taken from Greg Szymanski's Artic Beacon regarding the siking of the Titanic...

"Those richest of men, who opposed the Federal Reserve System, were killed along with the middle and lower classes. John Jacob Astor's wife was rescued. Molly Brown was also saved. The sinking of the Titanic was possibly the greatest disaster of the 20th Century outside of the World Wars. According to 'The Secret Terrorists,' the cause of this tragedy was the Jesuit Order of the Roman Catholic Church.

The unsinkable ship, the floating palace was created to be a tomb for the wealthy, who opposed the Federal Reserve System. On April 14th (the same date in history as the assassination of Abraham Lincoln) of 1912, the Titanic struck an iceberg and all opposition to the Federal Reserve was eliminated. In December of 1913, the Federal Reserve System came into being in the United States. Eight months later, the Jesuits had sufficient funding through the Federal Reserve Bank to begin World War I.' Notice the F.R.S. was established soon after the disaster of the Titanic."

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/9-July-2006.html

"Mondo @ 4:36 A.M."

You know, Sorch Faal's site is quite interesting albeit it is very hard to prove a lot of the articles, and it doesn't help that many of the quotes and links in current articles are dated.

Does anyone know anything about "Sorcha Faal"?

Having said that, I do agree with Mondo's post, and Soprcha Faal's articles that there IS a great struggle going on behind the scenes in Washington.

There is a recent article on Sorcha Faal's web site that relates how "Russian Intelligence sources are reporting today that the growing split between the Coup and Counter-Coup Forces in the United States has grown in ferocity with another ‘tit-for-tat’ murders of ‘key players’ in this growing, and dangerous, ‘secret war to contain war’ strategy currently being employed between not only the US factions, but Israel as well". Is it true? How can these reports be verified?

Regardless, I'm inclined to believe that "where there's smoke, their's fire" and that if truth exists in any of these, and many other, articles, it would have to be gleended from reading "between the lines".

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index929.htm

7/13/2006 11:06:00 AM  
Blogger sunny said...

shrubageddon said:

I think I'll take it in gold and hide it under the mattress, thank you.

In the coming "time of troubles" even gold will be meaningless. What you and I and everybody needs to do now is cultivate- a network or support structure of friends in our communities, gardens, survival skills, the ability to build things such as shelters, and how to seek out water supply, water purification techniques, etc etc. Useful things and skills you can trade with your network. Gold will mean nothing. I can't find it now, but there is a passage in the Bible about people throwing their coins in the streets because they have become worthless. Only merchants want coin, and merchants will be irrelevant without secure supply lines.

7/13/2006 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous A. Magnus said...

To all the folks who mentioned that J. Baxter was the likely Enron crook to whom I was referring, thanks for cleaning up my intellectual sloppiness. That WAS in fact who I was thinking of, but I got the name switched as I was reading about the trials at the time I wrote that post.

To the folks who read the Sorcha Faal articles, I noticed that there are MANY unprovable assertions in those tomes. I find it more instructive for a contrarian or outside cultural point of view than for actionable news per se.

There is a persistent myth purveyed by Sorcha Faal and also on Rumormill News which says there are 2 'factions' of the power elite vying for control behind the scenes, one of which is made of nationalists and patriots, the other of globalists and bankers.

We are supposed to hold out hope that the 'patriots' prevail instead of actually preparing to do our patriotic duty ourselves. It reminds me VERY much of the whole Patrick Fitzgerald meme, where all the liberal latte-quaffers think one prosecutor is single handedly going to save our republic by indighting the crooks in the White House.

The message being delivered seems to be the same: We've got it under control; no need to do anything yourself.

7/13/2006 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous middleworld said...

Interesting how no one has a clue what to do besides bring in the laundry. Of course if they did, would this be the place to say it? Perhaps a Gandhi will arise and millions of us will walk peacefully, defying the warlords, who will then be helpless.

Until then

Gird up thy loins and be of good cheer. If and when the SHTF It will in be many respects no different than your own eventual death, which despite Ray Kurzweil and Walt Disney, WILL occur, conspiracies or no. By bringing in the laundry, the world is made a better place. Such is our responsibility, and all we can do- help with the chores, and help our neighbor. Just don't do EVERYTHING you are told to do.

Peace.

7/13/2006 11:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A. Magnus @ 11:16 A.M.

I find it more instructive for a contrarian or outside cultural point of view than for actionable news per se."

Good points!

With respect to the "factions' of the power elite vying for control behind the scenes, one of which is made of nationalists and patriots, the other of globalists and bankers", I prefer to believe that they are both corrupt factions, neither representing the will of the people.

7/13/2006 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Avalon said...

Dan, I think it's the KIVA microcredit organization you are thinking of, where you can donate online for a specific Third World entretreneur.

http://www.kiva.org/app.php

7/13/2006 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous A. Magnus said...

Anonymous @ 12:10 said:

"With respect to the "factions' of the power elite vying for control behind the scenes, one of which is made of nationalists and patriots, the other of globalists and bankers", I prefer to believe that they are both corrupt factions, neither representing the will of the people. "

I agree that neither 'faction' represents the will of the people; however I would pose that neither faction EVER represented the will of the people to begin with. They've been quietly usurping powers since day one.

7/13/2006 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Why the Duality in regards to Factions? Couldn't there be more than two vying for control?

7/13/2006 01:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Shrubageddon @ 1:04 PM said...

Why the Duality in regards to Factions? Couldn't there be more than two vying for control?"

Sure. But who? On the one side I would surmise that there exists the "Euro-centric globalist" faction, and on the other the "Judeo/Middle-East" faction. The "Euro-centric globalist" faction could perhaps be divided further into two groups vying for control of N.A.

7/13/2006 01:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"In the film, they depict the banks as victims to the Enron execs accounting trickery. But perhaps the banks or bankers knew what was up, I mean, they're bankers after all, and played along, knowing full well that they would have plausible deniability."

I just watched the film last night and that is not the case. The film specifically said the banks had to have been complicit and knowing about the scams. There could be no other conclusion.

Comment: I agree that there could be no other conclusion, but if I recall correctly, which I may not, the film didn't connect those dots; it merely laid them side by side. It made the banks seem stupid and/or negligent, but not culpable like Enron.

BTW - Anyone think this Israel debacle will escalate into an Israeli invasion of Iran, followed by a U.S. invasion?

Sorcha Faal has been predicting doom for awhile now; like predicting it will happen tommorrow. That being said, at least his BS is original!

:- )

7/13/2006 02:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Bob said...

Hmmmmm.... sad. Two times I read HERE of terrorist bombings in India and it turned out to be true.(7-11) My morning paper had a small article covering same series of bombings... yet, the silent reaction is deafening. Now thats what I call euro-centric.

7/13/2006 02:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please allow me to paste some good comments found over on the RI board about this subject:

................

"I firmly believe I am innocent of the charges," (Lay had) said outside the courthouse...
"We believe that God is, in fact, in control - and indeed HE does work all things for good for those who love the Lord. And we love our Lord, and ultimately all of these things will work for good."

................

When is Abramoff's "massive coronary" coming?? Or is it going to be a freak car accident?

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Ken Lay's death prompts confusion on Wikipedia
Wed Jul 5, 2006 8:24 PM BST

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The death of former Enron Corp. chief Ken Lay on Wednesday underscored the challenges facing online encyclopedia Wikipedia (www.wikipedia.org/), which as the news was breaking offered a variety of causes for his death.

Lay, 64, died of a heart attack early on Wednesday, a family spokeswoman said, just six weeks after a jury found him guilty of fraud in one of the biggest corporate scandals in U.S. history.

Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, added news of Lay's death to his online biography shortly after news outlets began reporting it at around 10 a.m. EDT (1400 GMT).

At 10:06 a.m., Wikipedia's entry for Lay said he died "of an apparent suicide."

At 10:08, it said he died at his Aspen, Colorado home "of an apparent heart attack or suicide."

Within the same minute, it said the cause of death was "yet to be determined."

At 10:09 a.m., it said "no further details have been officially released" about the death.

Two minutes later, it said: "The guilt of ruining so many lives finally led him to his suicide."

At 10.12 a.m., this was replaced by: "According to Lay's pastor the cause was a 'massive coronary' heart attack."

By 10:39 a.m., Lay's entry said: "Speculation as to the cause of the heart attack lead many people to believe it was due to the amount of stress put on him by the Enron trial." This statement was later dropped.

By early Wednesday afternoon, the entry said Lay was pronounced dead at Aspen Valley Hospital, citing the Pitkin, Colorado sheriff's department. It said he apparently died of a massive heart attack, citing KHOU-TV in Houston.

Officials at Wikipedia did not immediately return phone and e-mail requests for comment. Its Web site warns users that "newer articles may still contain significant misinformation, unencyclopedic content, or vandalism." Wikipedia says it has 13,000 active writers and editors.

Lay and Jeffrey Skilling, who replaced him as chief executive, were convicted for their roles in Enron's 2001 collapse. Both were awaiting sentencing and faced long prison terms.

......................

As I scanned the Houston Chronicle today, I saw that Lay was originally with InterNorth Inc of Omaha Nebraska.

Strange how many paths lead in and out of Omaha.

That's a hub I don't remember fondly.

...........................

Has anyone released toxicity screening results yet??? Medical doctors have been known to preside over lethal injections as well as torture.

The administration truly had a lot to lose with the information that Kenny Boy held on the Dear Leader. Commissioning private jets for the 2000 campaign, he knew where the bodies were buried and was probably willing to flip for some immunity. He was on the transition team and Cheney's energy manipulation cabal.

What better gift is there for Bush's birthday than a dose of potassium chloride through Lay's veins?

...................

Former President George H.W. Bush... turned out for Kenneth Lay's memorial service on Wednesday... other luminaries at the service were former Secretary of State James Baker, former Secretary of Commerce Robert Mosbacher Sr., several corporate heads such as Reliant Energy Inc.'s (RRI.N: Quote, Profile, Research) Joel Staff, and baseball team owner Drayton McLane.

The Reverend Dr. Bill Lawson compared Lay with civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. and Jesus Christ, and said his name would eventually be cleared...

7/13/2006 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous silverfox said...

Wherever there is power there will always be countless individuals trying to catch a piece of it for themselves.

Any so-called "factions" are merely temporary alliances of convenience between them based on what or who appears to be the surest bet of the moment.

Needless to say the smart money behind the game always hedges its bets to make sure any serious contenders are always in their pocket long before they ever reach their goal.

Now as important as that money may be in controlling the game it's nothing compared to what any obliging winner will simply sign over to them to settle the balance sheet. That is really what's at stake and it's numbered in the hundreds of billions.

So large but not inordinately large fortunes are spent to make that entire process a sure thing, the last thing wanted is some loose cannon blowing the deal and forcing them to start "weeding" out another slate of players all over again.

7/13/2006 02:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

The Reverend Dr. Bill Lawson compared Lay with civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. and Jesus Christ,

What about Mother Theresa.......how could he forget her?

7/13/2006 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course the bankers were behind Enron. Where did the money go, after all?

And who says Ken Lay is actually dead? The night of his "demise" he had a huge party in Aspen for all of his friends. Don't you rather imagine he was rewarded with a new identity and a happy tropical retirement for all of his dedicated "Christian" efforts?

Even the Miami Herald printed an article questioning whether Lay was dead.

And in sure as hell ain't the Jesuits who control the Federal Reserve, boobalah.

Look up the history of the Bank of England. Look up the timeline of the Rothchilds.

To whom did Lord Balfour "convey the title" of the land of Philistia (Palenstine) and on behalf of what corporation?

Do your homework. The "Rosetta" stone is there. You need to read some simple historical facts, and lay off the speculative disinfo b.s.

It is all right in front of you, hiding in plain sight.

7/13/2006 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...other luminaries at the service were former Secretary of State James Baker and former Secretary of Commerce Robert Mosbacher Sr.


"Most of the CIA leadership around the invasion of Cuba seems to have been people from Texas. A whole Texan branch of the CIA is based in the oil business. If we trace Bush Sr's background in the Texas oil business we discover his two partners in the oil-barge leasing business: Texan Robert Mosbacher and Texan James Baker. Mosbacher (was) Secretary of Commerce and Baker is Secretary of State, the same job Dulles held when JFK was killed." (Source: Common Cause magazine, 3-4/90).

Robert Mosbacher chaired "Oil Men for Bush" in 1966.

On the Watergate tapes, June 23, 1972, referred to in the media as the "smoking gun" conversation, Nixon and his Chief of Staff, H.R. Haldeman, discussed... the role of George Bush's partner, Robert Mosbacher, as one of the Texas fundraisers for Nixon. On the tapes Nixon keeps refering to the "Cubans" and the "Texans." The "Texans" were Bush, Mosbacher and Baker.

In the same discussion Nixon links "the Cubans," "the Texans," "Helms," "Hunt," "Bernard Barker," Robert "Mosbacher" and "the Bay of Pigs." Over and over on the Watergate tapes, these names come up around the discussion of the photos from Dallas that Nixon was trying to obtain when he ordered the CIA to burglarize the Watergate. (Source: Three Men and a Barge", Teresa Riordan, Common Cause magazine, March/April 1990, and San Francisco Chronicle, May 7,1977, interview with Frank Sturgis in which he stated that "the reason we burglarized the Watergate was because Nixon was interested in stopping news leaking related to the photos of our role in the assassination of President John Kennedy.")

In 1980 Bush became Reagan's vice presidential candidate, and Mosbacher became chief fundraiser for Bush's presidential campaign. He formed a millionaire's club of 250 contributors, each of whom coughed up $100,000...



http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/dead_kennedys/161963.html

http://www.bushwatch.com/family.htm

7/13/2006 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous RollickHooper said...

Just heard the Pink Floyd song "Welcome To The Machine" on the radio, and it seemed to suggest a visit to Rigorous Intuition--
"What did you dream?
It's alright we told you what to dream--"

And so, in the spirit of the Butthole Surfers' song "LadySniff," I say
"Pass me some o' that Dumbass over there, hey bubba"

7/13/2006 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was Joe Kennedy alive/active when Jack went KABLAM!! and Jackie dove for chunks? kill your idols and stop projecting aspirational 'Hope' JFK was a Trustafari who did what his daddy told him Don't mess with Texas.

7/13/2006 06:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To A6:14:

In the words of Roger Daltrey:

Who the fuck are you?

7/13/2006 06:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Answer For Him: Obviously, a moron.

7/13/2006 06:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

holy shit:

http://science.slashdot.org/science/06/07/13/1654200.shtml

698/700 of the original moonlanding tapes missing from the national archives? WTF? I've never been a moonlanding skeptic but this is ridiculous -- someone better take a look and see if the constitution's still on display.

7/13/2006 07:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

I'm not surprized, but nonetheless, I am still disgusted by the American Media's coverage of the latest acts of aggression perpetrated by Israel. They are reporting it as though Israel's attacks are perfectly legitimate and warranted.

Bullshit!! Shame on you, Lou Dobbs.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hezbollah isn't to Israeli Intelligence what Al Qaeda is to U.S. Intelligence.....just more coherent and defined. In otherwords, one and the same.

France and Russia have denounced Israel's actions. Also, of no surprise. The ironies of all ironies is the German Prime Minister condoning Israel's aggression....hmmm, maybe it's not so ironic, afterall.

7/13/2006 07:48:00 PM  
Blogger foist lastus said...

"I firmly believe I am innocent of the charges," (Lay had) said outside the courthouse...
"We believe that God is, in fact, in control - and indeed HE does work all things for good for those who love the Lord. And we love our Lord, and ultimately all of these things will work for good."

When black is white, wrong is right

Invert the above quote to find out what it really says...

7/13/2006 08:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shrubageddon @ 7:48 P.M. said...

"I'm not surprized, but nonetheless, I am still disgusted by the American Media's coverage of the latest acts of aggression perpetrated by Israel. They are reporting it as though Israel's attacks are perfectly legitimate and warranted."

It's beyond disgusting! But unfortunately, you won't see much dialogue regarding Israeli crimes, the "root kernel" of our entire problem, on this blog.

What will it take to make people wake up and do something about Israel and their disproportionate influence in this country?! When will we take a really good look at the underlying reason that makes the Israeli's behave like this.....go right to the "root kernel" as it were?! There we will find that there is a problem with the "code" that drives these people, a "code" that is incompatible with the rest of the civilized world, a "code" that has existed for centuries....a profoundly skewed world outlook.

The grand irony is the immense stupidity of most Israeli's...they don't realize that their "country" is being sold down the river. They are their own worse enemies.

7/13/2006 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous jules said...

yeah rollick.

One good thing about Australia is jjj. Sure its nothing compared to 15 years ago, or 3rrr.

But how many national radio networks have Fletch from Pennywise programming his favorite songs at 10.30 am.

I just heard bright Eyes "when the president talks to God" Good song.

So Pennywise know a few people in Iraq, and their drummer toured with the Vandals. He said as far as the yanks they know in the army... Their job mostly is to guard roads and protect Hallibuton and its interests.

Fletch just said something cool. You can always be free, in your mind, and the trick is to be aware of the paths The Powers That Be try to steer you onto. How many national radio networks do you hear that on very often.

He's now raving about the old days in LA, latest pick Straight out of Compton. All we need now is Poison Idea and this is the most anti authoritarian hour of music I have heard for years. One think about the US, for all its flaws the music that came out of the west coast in the 80s, (especially motley crue yeah right), nah the real music goes off. (Black Flag, if I ever find the bastards who flogged my old vinyl..).

And the same stuff we are really saying was being said time and again. For all dumbocrats out there, I still remember Tipper Gore and the PMRC. There are thosands of factions, two alliances and they are all only in it for the money (only unlike Zappa they are not very entertaining and the only laughter you get out of them is the sort you substitute for tears,) and what that brings.

Even when you find yourself in a position of authority, just remember "we are sick of your treason, sick of your lies, fuck no we won't listen we're gonna open your eyes."

Punk from the old days, that knew what real freedom was all about.

7/13/2006 08:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Dugoboy said...

good post jeff.

thats all i can find to say right now. :D

7/13/2006 08:59:00 PM  
Anonymous jules said...

There are too many sharks.

NoMeansNo
Sharks In The Gene Pool

First the urine test - now this
First the urine test - now this!
Why do all the best technology advances
Always wind up in the worst possible hands

Through dna analysis
We may one day conquer disease
A "perfect" baby every time
By mapping and manipulating people's genes

Cosmetic surgery before you're born
Know in advance what you'll die of
Everyone is useful and the same
Swimmers bred like horses for olympic teams

Life insurance? be serious!
You have to get your genes screened first
Toxic chemicals? fumes at work?
No sweat! get a gene transplant

Otherwise you'll lose your job do
You wanna wind up out in the streets?
And raise your children in campgrounds and shelters?
And beg to eat

There's too many sharks in the gene pool
Too many chewed up bodies on the shore
Too many sharks in the gene pool
Too many leftovers rotting all around us

First the urine test - now this!
Why do the best technological advances
Keep winding up as...

Uniform hybrid species
For fresh-looking pest-proof food
An apple can sit on the shelf for years
When we irradiate the molecules

But where did the nutrition go?
And what's taken it's place?
Slipshod tampering with science
Out of control factory farm eugenics

Slaughterhouses in lowa
Filled with tumor-infested cows
Failed experiments hidden 'til sold
To your local school lunch program

Grade D, but edible
Our food, our life, our attitude
Suffocating in what we refuse to recycle
Time bombs fester in every town

Billions of dollars spent every year
Searching for a cure for cancer
Why not spend that money instead
To wipe out pollution that causes the cancer

There's too many sharks in the gene pool
Too many screw-ups washing on shore
Too many sharks in the gene pool
Too many preventable accidents among us

Meryl Streep... where are you?

Where did american know how go
Why do japanese build better stereos
Is it 'cos our best minds can't get a job
Except when they help make toys for the Pentagon

Germ warfare, more bombs
Germ warfare, more bombs
Our whole economy's based on fear and death
How long can we get away with this?

And we live here

Instead of better health we get a.i.d.s.
Instead of nourishment we get steroids
The most popular selections at celebrity sperm banks
Are sports heroes

Gap widens between the haves and the have-nots
Rich and powerful breed only with themselves
We all know what happens when too much of this happens
The offspring just ain't real bright

How else can you explain
The erosion of talent and the vision thing
To the point where the best that they can come up with
For our future role models and leaders

Are vicious blind machines
Like Albert Gore and Dan Quayle
Why do the best solutions and advances
Get thrown away in the worst possible hands

There's too many sharks in the gene pool
Too many carcasses washing on shore
Too many sharks in the gene pool
Avalanche of toxic guts all around us

We're incompetent as human beings
Even worse at playing God

Wrong people
Right place
Ruling class
Gets the only pass
To board the ark
For outer space
In 2001
What about this place?

7/13/2006 09:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Dr. Bombay said...

To paraphrase Hunter Thompson
"The problem with the United
States is that not enough people
are in the streets getting whacked
in the head with billy clubs."

And one more qoute, though I can't
remember who said it:
"Every luxury has its price, and
that price must be paid, including
this life."

7/13/2006 11:06:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Anonymous said...
"Does anyone think there might be a connection with the put options placed before 9-11 and the people involved in Cheney's secret energy task force meetings like, oh I don't know, Lay and Skilling?"

Well, I believe the connection is the framework within which certain "liberating" technologies are being suppressed. Here's the argument: free energy (zero point energy, Tesla's "energy of the vacuum, etc.) would usher in a new age. The impact of a clean, limitless, and (most importantly) free energy source on the status quo would be very difficult to exaggerate. It would literally emancipate the modern serfs in this age of the modern tsars, which is an even more apt analogy for our present condition than fascism, and not just because R.A. Wilson first made it. This is the realization which froze the blood of J.P. Morgan and Westinghouse, who, monumental capitalists that they were, reacted with appropriate shock and horror when Tesla described his dream. And promptly cut off all financing for the "weird" Serb.
The history of the suppression of ideas and technologies that would benefit mankind and, not coincidentally, explode the monopolies which define our economic and political lives is a long and ugly story. How exactly do the AMA and its thugs in the FDA justify the lynching of Wilhelm Reich and the burning of his books, papers, and research? Why, it's the American way, isn't it? Even "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" was able to expose the conspiracy to dismantle America's very efficient public transportation system in order to make room for the ascension of the automakers just in time for the postwar economic boom.
Cheney's Energy Task Force was very much concerned with keeping the lid on free energy, while the airline industry was also concerned with suppressing the related technology of anti-gravity. These were not the only threatened cartels, either. With the release of these technologies, our entire economy of scarcity, artificial construct that it is, would slough off like dead skin in the light of the new day of the economy of abundance, which is already a practicable but monstrously well-kept secret. http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm
So, now that 2-5 researchers per year are independently stumbling onto free energy, which costs the Bad Guys lots of money and time to buy out/silence by other means, what better way to hold the bright future at bay than to stage the biggest false flag operation in history and inaugurate the War On Terror/Surveillance State? (I have lots and lots of sources for this stuff, but I'm new here and I'm not sure of the etiquette on hogging all this space.)
The good news is that the Evil Plan will not work. But that's another post...

7/14/2006 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Count Maakula

Aw gee, don't pick on Israel. How else can we invade Iran, if not but through honoring our treaty to protect Israel?

BTW - If the Arabs were smart, they would SUPPORT Israel just to fuck the United States. But smart Arabs get whacked and replaced by our clients. Would YOU like it if your chess pieces refuse to go where you told them? It's like the WWII-era Bill Mauldin cartoon where the two superpowers are playing chess with lesser powers and one player says, "By George, I could have sworn I heard one of them groan."

7/14/2006 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous jules said...

(I have lots and lots of sources for this stuff, but I'm new here and I'm not sure of the etiquette on hogging all this space.)

Hog away. if its good stuff then its probably worth it. But there is a discussion board...

And this thread on the board:

http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessage?topicID=4768.topic

7/14/2006 02:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

jeff....

for what its worth... your blog, your viewpoints, and those who read and comment, together form a synergy that has been a gateway for me to self growth and a higher learning experience. I wish to thank you all.

7/14/2006 03:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Nate said...

Anonymous 11:06:
"Eight months later, the Jesuits had sufficient funding through the Federal Reserve Bank to begin World War I.' "

Hey, wow. The ol' 'Jesuits are behind everything' theory. Haven't heard that one since reading Chick Comics in the '80s.

No doubt defending the rights of indigenous tribes in Latin America from right-wing 'market forces' was all part of the same evil master-plan that brought the world trench warfare and dysentry.

7/14/2006 05:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

I owe my personal enlightenment and philosophy of perpetual self-growth to my Jesuit Education. Sure, they may be Pederasts, like all the rest, but they force you to challenge any faith you may have. I did, and I now see Religion for what it is.

I will say that Contemporary Jesuits in the States are very much aligned with the Plutocracy. They are surrounded and highly influenced by the wealthy elite. In fact, the Jesuit High School I attended many moons ago shared the same explicit goal as the Marines; that being, to build the mind, body and spirit of young men. Just one more subtle example of the convergence of Church and State. Fascism, anyone?

I still receive the High School News put out for the Alumni, and without fail, they never forget to parade our "fighting boy" Alumni in patriotic fashion, further reinforcing their shared goal with the Marines.

7/14/2006 08:43:00 AM  
Anonymous silly rabbit said...

Howdy folks. . .
This is from the June /July issue of the New York Megaphone, a free local publication. They covered conspiracy theories in this issue. Writing on the King assassination, author Kempshall McAndrew ended his aticle with this quote from MLK's son Dexter, regarding the generally ignored 1999 trial, King vs. Jowers:
"It has to be dealt with because it is not about who killed Martin Luther King Jr., my father. It is about why he was killed. Because if you answer the why, you will understand the same things are still happening. Until we address that, we're all in trouble. Because if it could happen to him, if it can happen to this family, it can happen to anybody."

7/14/2006 09:15:00 AM  
Anonymous jules said...

I can't find it at the moment but years ago I wrote a uni essay on Conspiracy theory as a process of self initiation.

Some failure in the teaching of the way the world works as you grow up leaves you kind of uncritical about what those in authority do. Not very deep in your criticism, because deep down you believe in the sun kings and surrendering your authority to those in power. Like Hitler's "the masses are feminine" idea, with out the gender bias.

Anyway something comes up that shows the corruption of those in power and your personal pendulum swings, where previously you saw nothing, now paranoia reigns and you see evil powers in charge. Everything you see fits this gloss, and so you feed your belief system, but eventually dissonant info becomes available, and you stop believing your own bullshit.

The dissonant info causes you to reevaluate your position, and you learn to think critically about everything, or at least learn how to be able to think critically about everything. whether you do or not is another issue.

I know its pretty obvious and that but throw in a few refs and a few big shrinkological ords and you can see just how easy it is to impress academics.

Thats why I like your blog Jeff, you manage to maintain some level of critical thinking even when talking about the most far out ideas. And so do the majority of the commentmakors.

7/14/2006 11:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Either this man is dead, or my watch has stopped.
-Groucho Marx

7/16/2006 06:26:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

One of the reasons so many were taken in by the collapse of the WTC towers as a top down kinetic event has something to do with Tesla physics. It has been suppressed so how could you know that the buildings were brought down by a technology one hundred years old. Here is Bearden's take on what Tesla was doing back then.

"Tesla was unique in his approach to electrodynamics. He was a tireless and highly innovative experimenter, and thought in terms of material fluid theory as did just about everyone else (Maxwell's theory is indeed a material fluid dynamics theory, and still assumes a material ether in its equations which were never changed after the destruction of the material luminiferous ether by the Michelson-Morley experiments.). But Tesla had a photographic mind, and also incredible powers of visualization (as he wrote, until he was 12 he visualized things in his mind so vividly that he could not differentiate between physical objects observed and his own thought images. He had to find a "trick" that allowed him to tell the difference).

So he used simple algebra, but also used what we can only call "super simulation" in his own head. It's as if he had a great simulation program going on continually in his head, in a very large supercomputer. So he would do an experiment 100 times in excruciating detail in his mind/vision/simulator, and adjust the variables and components used in his mind-simulation until he obtained the results he sought.
So this was the real secret of Tesla's great discoveries. He did so many experiments, and fitted his mind-simulation so accurately, that he was the equivalent of a group of researchers using modern highly sophisticated computer simulation tools."

Tesla's technology and his papers were ransacked. One of his experiments set up a vibration in the building he was working in where Tesla had to smash the handheld device he was working on as it was causing the iron girders in the building to vibrate violently and very nearly brought down the building

8/03/2006 02:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Does anyone know anything about "Sorcha Faal"?'

Yes, she/he/it/them is/are bogus per Mr. Hennigan of www.CloakAndDagger.de - he outed the site on a recent show.

12/18/2006 01:42:00 AM  
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