Wednesday, August 09, 2006

The Predator Class (Part One)



There'll be phantoms
There'll be fires on the road
and the white man dancing - Leonard Cohen

In the middle of his September, 2004 address to the UN General Assembly, making the case that America's purpose is to "build a better world beyond the war on terror," George Bush had this to say:

Because we believe in human dignity, America and many nations have joined together to confront the evil of trafficking in human beings. We're supporting organizations that rescue the victims, passing stronger anti-trafficking laws, and warning travelers that they will be held to account for supporting this modern form of slavery. Women and children should never be exploited for pleasure or greed, anywhere on Earth.

It was a rare where did that come from moment during one of Bush's more lucid performances. And while it's appropriate to place the exploitation of children in the context of the "war on terror," he was disingenuous about what that place should be.

Consider this BBC story from July 5, 2000:

Wanted Israeli diplomat flees Brazil

Police in Rio de Janeiro say an Israeli diplomat suspected of belonging to an international child pornography ring has fled Brazil and returned to Israel.

The Israeli diplomatic mission confirmed that its vice-consul, Arie Scher, had flown home at the request of the Israeli government, which it said had ordered an investigation into the allegations.

Police want to question him in connection with pornographic pictures and videotapes of young children found in the home of a Hebrew language teacher arrested on Tuesday.

The children were pictured and filmed at the diplomat's house.

Police said the pictures had been published on the internet with the apparent aim of attracting foreign paedophiles to Rio de Janeiro.

Scher was to resurface five years later, when he was appointed Israel's new consul to Australia replacing Amir Laty, a spy who was himself expelled for seducing diplomats, defense specialists and journalists "in the hope of cultivating young women with access to government secrets."

That sex is a tool of espionage should not be much of a story, though it should, still, at least be a story. Despite its glamorization and parody in film, whoring for intelligence remains largely invisible and unacknowledged. Remember August 2004, when New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevey resigned on account of a relationship with former Israeli naval lieutenant Golan Cipel, the man he had named his state's homeland security czar? Speculation that Cipel may have cultivated the affair as an intel op was duct-taped over as both "anti-gay" and "anti-semitic," by American liberals on the usual forums who pretended to have never heard the name Pussy Galore.

But "international child pornography" is a sex crime of a different order. And Scher's Australian placement and support from his Foreign office, which rejected the accusations against him as "terribly exaggerated," suggest kiddie porn wasn't a Blame it on Rio personal indiscretion, but rather something that came with the job. Much like the human smuggling scandal out of the US embassy in Azerbaijan that saw Ambassador Reno Harnish shuffled sideways to an environmental posting engaged in the "fight against bird flu."

A question to consider is why someone like Scher, who in his previous posting was apparently engaged in the covert pursuit of luring foreign paedophiles to his host country, would be considered an appropriate appointee for the position of consul to Australia.

54 Comments:

Anonymous stickdog said...

Pedophilia is both an addictive, much practiced hobby of the rich and famous and the most heinous of crimes in the greater public's consciousness -- short of mass murder (perhaps).

As such, it is a very powerful tool of control when combined with the modern intelligence state.

8/09/2006 05:40:00 PM  
Anonymous jon said...

interesting that when cipel returned to israel in '04 he accused the governor of sexual harassment, telling haaretz the following:

"On one hand, I feel excruciating pain, frustration and fear," Cipel said. "On the other hand, I am relieved that it all came out.... I went from denial to escape and from escape to depression. And it didn’t end. It’s like a black hole. You are drawn in and can’t get out."

http://www.gaycitynews.com/gcn_334/golancipelspeaks.html

odd.

8/09/2006 05:48:00 PM  
Anonymous jon said...

but even New York Magazine admits there was something weird going on with the way cipel and the governor handled the whole deal...

"The AJC’s Twersky believes there may very well be a missing piece to the story. 'Cipel’s case was incredibly weak and didn’t comport with any of the facts as I knew them. Remember, their relationship didn’t start when Cipel got the homeland-security job. That appointment was made in February 2002. McGreevey met him in Israel in March of 2000, long before he was governor. Cipel came here six months later.... So there’s a long period of time when they’re just having sex. So where’s the harassment?'

...

"In retrospect, there are questions about the seriousness of Cipel’s intention to ever file a lawsuit—and whether McGreevey’s lawyers should’ve recognized this. How determined to sue could he have been, given that he was represented by Allen Lowy, an entertainment lawyer not even licensed in New Jersey? And as soon as the story broke, Cipel bolted for the shelter of his home in Israel.

"Indeed, there was something bizarre about that entire three-week period when the parties were trying to negotiate a settlement. Cipel’s demands changed several times, and at some point during negotiations McGreevey’s representatives contacted the FBI. Why would they do that unless they thought they were being extorted or believed they were being set up—that perhaps the whole thing was a sting?"

http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/people/features/9874/index3.html

8/09/2006 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What I think is so funny is that Mossad (Israel Intelligence Service) is just applying tried-and-tested methods to obtain intelligence: they are using blackmail.

You have to understand that Mossad, along with the ex-KGB and ex-GRU (Russian Military Intelligence) is one of the most ruthless -- and most effective -- service of its kind in the world.

Yes, that means they will use any means necessary to apply pressure on someone who has access to interesting information. And that includes all forms of sex, including gay, bdsm, pedophilia and so on and so forth. Ugly? Sure, but it gets the job done. Also, keep in mind that both Russia and Israel are very paranoid regime by nature, preoccupied with only one thing: survival.

Given the complete madness of Americans when it comes to sex -- remember that two of the biggest industries in the US are the porn business and the church business -- and the methods mentioned above, it's no surprise the Prime Minister of Israel is able to run circles around the President of the United States. His intelligence service is simply exploiting human being's most primary urge.

Immoral? Disgusting? Repugnant? Sure, but, again, it gets the job done. All in the name of God and country, of course. And given the well-known dirty tricks of the CIA, I find it surprising that you complain about the bag of tricks of Mossad...

8/09/2006 06:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the world was upside down ,and there were dragons, the moon was the earth and the earth was the moon

8/09/2006 06:49:00 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

"And given the well-known dirty tricks of the CIA, I find it surprising that you complain about the bag of tricks of Mossad..."

I know these examples singled out the Mossad, but my point, which I hope becomes clearer in the second part, is the global aspect to the network that both encompasses and goes deeper than the CIA and the Mossad.

8/09/2006 06:58:00 PM  
Anonymous jon said...

you want mossad? howsabout this piece that popped up on Raw Story today:

"Navy charges sailor with spying

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A 21-year-old sailor has been charged with espionage for allegedly trying to pass classified information to foreign agents, the U.S. Navy said on Wednesday.

"According to defense officials, Petty Officer Ariel Weinmann was working on behalf of Russia..."

http://today.reuters.com/misc/PrinterFriendlyPopup.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2006-08-09T183802Z_01_N09181996_RTRUKOC_0_US-CRIME-NAVY-ESPIONAGE.xml

ariel weinmann a *russian*? riiight...

8/09/2006 07:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Richard said...

Busy day today so one other quick Eyes wide Shut observation.

I thought that Kubrick's handling of the sexual debauchary of the rich & well-heeled was a more fleshed out version of what he implied in The Shining, even down to the participants wearing masks.

I also think that it's a bit interesting that the previous open thread delt with Kubrick's take on sexual predators of one type & then Mr. Wells posts on sexual predators of another type. Or maybe I'm wrong, there is no difference .

What a coincidence, eh?

& Shrub, you said "Plus, the chicks were smokin hot.....you must admit."

Oh, I'll admit it. Gorgeous.

But I also found that the film wasn't the least bit erotic, if that makes any sense?

There was this underlying creepiness, even showing up in the strange lack of chemistry between Tom & Nicole. Maybe they were just trying to convey a 9 year married couple who were just bored with each other, but that wasn't what I was feeling as I watched it. There was something more there that I can't quite put my finger on.

8/09/2006 07:31:00 PM  
Anonymous km artlu said...

The numerous interconnected threads you've revealed on RI linking paedophiles and power all point towards a conclusion that's difficult to accept -- this isn't about sexual appetite and indulgence; nor is it only blackmail, manipulation and standard tradecraft in operation.

I suspect some simple but preposterous dynamic at the nexus of paedophilia, power and the occult. Perhaps it involves energies unique to pre-adolescence?

You can sit in a park or at the beach and witness the obvious differences in the amount of energy available to adults and to children. There's a difference in quality of energies as well, equally obvious but elusive of definition.

I also suspect that it is those energies which the elite covet and,in some cases,know how to employ paranormally.

8/09/2006 07:50:00 PM  
Blogger foist lastus said...

"I suspect some simple but preposterous dynamic at the nexus of paedophilia, power and the occult. Perhaps it involves energies unique to pre-adolescence"

...

When a man sodomizes a child at three, the child bonds to that man as if he were their father, and when he’s a man of the cloth, of the Church, the child bonds to the Church, too. This sodomy thing has been around for hundreds of years. Ignatius Loyola, founder of the Jesuits, was a Catholic mystic; he had to have been a sodomized one. He was the guy who headed up the Inquisition to persecute those who didn’t adhere to the tenets of the Catholic faith. Terribly cruel! How could you be that cruel if you didn’t have the sodomy rage? The torture they put people through! Later, Joseph Mengele developed the programming and brought it up to another level. He was a Catholic alter boy. I think he was also a Rothschild and a Jesuit. The founder of the Illuminati was Adam Weishaupt, trained as a Jesuit.

http://www.whale.to/b/sodomy_q.html

8/09/2006 08:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Richard said...

One other EWS observation

What was up with 'Bill' & the way he whipped out his doctor's license everytime he wanted access to information.
Was this Kubrick thumbing his nose at the veneer of rational thought that we've painted on all those ghosties & goulies & long-legged beasties that roil below our apparently civilized exteriors.
Both the hooker who 'redeemed' bill & the Sydney Pollack character kept telling Bill that he was out of his depth.

Hell, aren't we all?

I suspect that those folk who play with these forces for their own pleasure are out of their depth too. They're just too arrogant or too "drawn in" to realize it.

This is about control, I just don't think that the people who appear to be in control actually control anything.

They're just allowed that illusion.

8/09/2006 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous jon said...

in my opinion, richard, *none* of us is in 'control' of these creatures. it reminds me of what c.s.lewis wrote once about religion (or magic, if you are so inclined):

"You've had a shock like that before, in connection with smaller matters--when the line pulls at your hand, when something breathes beside you in the darkness. So here; the shock comes at the precise moment when the thrill of *life* is communicated to us along the clue we've been following. It is always shocking to meet life when we thought we were alone. 'Look out!' we cry, 'it's alive!' And therefore this is the very point at which so many draw back....
"There comes a moment when the children who have been playing at burglars hush suddenly: was that a *real* footstep in the hall? There comes a moment when people who have been dabbling in religion [or, for our purposes, magic] suddenly draw back. Supposing we really found him? We never meant for it to come to *that*! Worse still, supposing he found us?"


again, it remains simply an opinion, but there seems to be no 'control' over the creatures behind the veil, not even for the dabblers, who are, as you rightly guessed, 'masks', 'fronts', and 'aliases' for *real* evil.

8/09/2006 08:40:00 PM  
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8/09/2006 09:04:00 PM  
Anonymous starroute said...

I've been meaning to quote a few paragraphs on ritual pederasty in New Guinea and Melanesia, for whatever light it sheds on the discussion. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to come up with whatever source I originally copied this out of -- some academic treatise or other -- so I'm just going to toss it out here as it stands.

As best I can understand, the underlying theory involves a primitive type of yin-yang duality, applied primarily to bodily fluids. Boys, by nursing from their mothers, become excessively "yin" and have to "nurse" from male sources instead in order to become sufficiently "yang" to be men.

As foist lastus suggested, it's all about male bonding -- but male bonding of a very specific sort, heavily intertwined with contempt for and revulsion from women, whose female energies are associated with weakness, corruption, and decay.

Bizarre homosexual rites are practiced extensively by numerous Melanesian tribesmen in New Guinea and adjacent islands. Young boys must "accumulate" semen for several years, either by regularly receiving anal penetration, or by swallowing the ejaculations of older males they fellate. This ancient custom springs from a religious belief system that regards sperm as the essential conduit of masculine energy; puny boys, they believe, are only transformed into virile warriors if they ingest large quantities of sperm.

"If you boys don't drink semen, you won't grow big," a Sambian elder tells prepubescent initiates. "You should not be afraid of eating penises ... it is just like the milk of your mother's breast. You can ingest it all of the time and grow quickly. A boy must be ... inseminated... If [he] doesn't eat semen, he remains small and weak."

Ten to twenty percent of all tribes in Melanesia -- an Oceania region stretching 3,000 miles from Irian Jaya to Fiji -- have mandatory "boy-inseminating" practices, claims Herdt. Boys here are separated from their mothers when they are 7-14 years old, and installed in "bachelor's houses."

The Marind-anim of Southwest New Guinea -- who were ruthless headhunters -- give the boys to maternal uncles who "top" them in anal intercourse for six years. The nearby Jacquai tribe refers to the adult penetrator as "mo-e" (anus-father) and the receiving child as "mo-mog" (anus-son). Big Namba chiefs of the New Hebrides Islands have numerous boy lovers; the Keraki of the Papuan lowlands sodomize lads at a bull-roarer ceremony; and the Great Plateau Kaluli "engage" youths to older men selected by their fathers.

8/09/2006 09:49:00 PM  
Blogger JBD said...

Starry, I learned about this practice in a Sex and Society course I had years ago in college. In some cultures, there is a ritual to wean the young males off of the semen-centered "ritual" of sex, so they could marry and procreate with a woman. Naturally, these older males, young fathers even, became the semen "donors" to the younger boys. And so the cycle continues.

I've long since lost the textbook (or wait...), but I probably have notes about it somewhere. Regardless, you nailed it.

What does it mean when so many cultures rely ritualistic sex with children? Pedophilia is not just desired by the rich and famous, stickdog, but by the powerful. . . in many cultures.

I was deeply in a militant feminist mode in college, so all I can remember thinking is that men will do anything, risk anything, cultivate anything to get off sexually.

Surely there is more to it than that...

8/09/2006 10:09:00 PM  
Anonymous silverfox said...

We all know that children go missing for a number of reasons and it is, of course, every parent's worst and most unthinkable nightmare regardless of whatever the reason may be.

Now you might read that national "estimates" for the US "suggest" that as many as 800,000 children "dissappear" for at least some length of time each and every year but what are the actual facts and details surrounding that guess-timate?

Now we might tend to think that there ought to be a fair bit of information regarding a number of that magnitude, like how many children run away, are kidnaped or just mysteriously dissappear; or how many are found or finally find their way home safe and sound again, or remain forever lost or turn up having to come to a bad and premature end; or which states have the most occurrences, and of what kind. or which have the least and so on and so forth ...hmmm?

Call it what you will, statistics, demographics, or simply whatever the "odds" are, for or against it happening anywhere or maybe even right in your own neighbourhood?

Not particularly comforting or pleasant information but certainly "usefull" and well worth knowing. After all, what responsible parent really wouldn't want to know that?

Well certainly such information does exist "somewhere" but when finally you get to looking to track it down it you'll suddenly have the sinking feeling that you've not only forgotten your magnifying glass and deeerstalker cap but that Professor Moriarity has been there before you and gotten clean away with it.

Now there are countless organizations that are focussed on this extremely serious social problem but what you could only call a dearth of anything like the kind of vital statistics that ought to be readily available regarding it.

That in itself seems an even greater mystery...eh Watson?

8/09/2006 10:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Certainly all fellow "travelers", foreign or domestic, must now be forwarned--they most assuredly will be under the vigilant scrutiny of those who are gaurding their hen-house--Your club card please.

8/09/2006 11:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Raul said...

Jon,

Earlier mainstream reports said that Weinmann was spying for Israel, then changed it to Russia without explanation or mention of Israel whatsoever.

8/10/2006 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Richard said...

JDB, you said

"I was deeply in a militant feminist mode in college, so all I can remember thinking is that men will do anything, risk anything, cultivate anything to get off sexually."

So then, what's women's excuse?

Until I was 29, I worked primarily with men. At 29 I started my present job where I work with a majority of women. When I started this job, I'd been married about 2 years. I never once took my ring off or tried to hide my marital status. In my naivete, I assumed that women, grrl power women...sisterhood women...etc., would view the wedding ring as a huge hand's off sign.

Like I said, I was naive.

Previously to saying 'I do' I was never what you'd call a ladies man. More precisely, before meeting my wife, I could have struck out in a brothel with a wallet full of $100 bills.
When I started this job though, the sex appeal genie must have given me a huge makeover.

I had one supervisor walk into a room where I was reading on my break & unbutton her shirt & ask me if I "saw anything I liked." She also told me that she would "do anything I wanted."
I had another supervisor with huge breasts occasionally whipering in my ear how she would love to "rub my big boobs all over you." Then she'd tell me how she would like to kiss the "head of my cock."
I had two women fall in love with me without so much as a goddamn kiss.
Another girl kept asking me to help her "do her breast exam."

It isn't like there weren't single guys around. They just opted to lead those guys around by the nose. Forcing them to jump through umpteen hoops like good little puppy dogs.
One day I asked the girl with the huge breasts I mentioned above (she had since given up & we'd actually become friends), "So, what the fuck is up with the whole 'wedding rings are like red capes to bulls' syndrome that seems to obsess the women around here?"
She said, "Well, it's more of a challenge."

O-fucking-K.

So guys will risk everything to "get off" & women will use this Pavlovian reaction to assist guys as they "risk everything."

Seems like an endless & completely fucked up circle jerk to me.

Most guys would consider me a fool or liar if I said I never took the bait.
I never did though.
My wife & I had an astoundingly good sex life. Even after 15 years of marriage we still like to have sex with each other.
Sue me.
I don't care.

Truthfully, I had way more fun being the exception to the rule & completely & utterly fucking with their heads.
There's something about the look on a hot woman's face when she throws herself at you & you throw her back.

Just another in a long series of things that I will probably never ever understand.

8/10/2006 01:05:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Jon made a very interesting point when he said:

"There comes a moment when the children who have been playing at burglars hush suddenly: was that a *real* footstep in the hall? There comes a moment when people who have been dabbling in religion [or, for our purposes, magic] suddenly draw back. Supposing we really found him? We never meant for it to come to *that*! Worse still, supposing he found us?"


I was immediately reminded of two things. First was that Tolkien, despite owing his literary fame to C.S. Lewis' persistent nagging, practically "forcing" him to submit The Lord of The Ring for publication, and also despite being Lewis' very good friend, hated Lewis' fiction, especially The Screwtape Letters, because he believed that a writer, as a person who creates, should never look too closely at evil. The (unintended) consequences, Tolkien maintained, were both unknown and potentially terrible, as demons could either be invited into this world, or created out of whole cloth, on the spot.

No one took Tolkien seriously on this, of course, and ascribed his peculiar views on the subject as the product of the vivid imagination of an arcane Catholic visionary who lived more in the world of dead and invented languages than among us, the rational living folk, but he never backed down from this stance. This is why he made Sauron and Morgoth so flat, so two-dimensional: he couldn't stand to look too closely into the mind of evil, and he didn't want us to, either.

The second thing this reminds me of is Jeff's take on the "mistake" made by Jack Parsons and L. Ron Hubbard in his epic post The Occult History of the National Security State:

What is known is that the Magickal Portal first created by Crowley - and which originally let Lam into the earth-world - was reestablished with considerable intensity by Parsons and Hubbard. From the diaries of the participants, it is also clear that they were not as adept as Crowley in the closings of portals. What they seemed to have accomplished was the drastic enlargement and ripping of an existing Magickal Portal and the subsequent non-closure of it. Perhaps the rip they created was not possible to close. In any event, the modern UFO era began exactly a year and a half later on June 24th, 1947, with Kenneth Arnold's sighting over the Cascade Mountains in Washington State.

This may also explain (to me--sorry about the exhibitionist introspection, folks) why I'm so nervous and repulsed by even considering the whole occult thing. (My grandmother was a 19th century Catholic mystic and must have imbued me with some of her Tolkienist distrust of dark things when she was teaching me how to make lye soap 40 years ago...)

8/10/2006 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greetings again from the plum eater. (Mulberry season is pretty much over around here for this year. Maybe later I'll get into mangoes or dates, though they aren't exactly indigenous here...)

In homeopathic medicine, the "syphilis miasm" is often connected with disorders involving sexual deviance like incest and pedophilia:

http://www.simillimum.com/Thelittlelibrary/Constitutionaetiologymiasm/miasmcasesyph.html

(These "aristocratic" inbred families seem to me likely to pass some form of inherited syphilis and other disorders through the generations.)

There isn't enough space here to go into much homeopathic theory, and there is plenty of material easily available. Its founder, Hahnemann, was a contemporary of Goethe, who was acquainted with him and referred to him as "Our Paracelsus."

I have personally seen definite cures from these medicines, even though they are usually diluted beyond the point where molecules of the medicine would be present. Among anthroposophists, the making of homeopathic medicines is usually considered to be a conversion of matter back into spirit. The greater the dilution, the "higher" or "deeper" the spiritual result, it seems. The dilution is done in stages, and each step is accompanied by a lot of jarring or shaking of the container. Simple dilution has been found not to have the same effect.

I once experimented with mimosa (best known within traditional Chinese medicine), because of its reputation as a safe anti-depressant. The concentrate I got was too strong, and made me and a friend more sleepy than anything else. To counteract the effect, I made a homeopathic dilution out of it, which did the trick a lot quicker than waiting for the mimosa to wear off.

Unfortunately, it can often be difficult to find a skilled practitioner. Properly done, it is a genuine holistic science.

8/10/2006 02:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of Kubrick, I'm surprised Jeff hasn't mentioned A Clockwork Orange. Or has it been discussed in the omments?

8/10/2006 02:05:00 AM  
Anonymous jon said...

sorry to post off-topic, but someone *please* tell me this isn't true...


"Poll shows 30% of Americans unsure of 9/11 year"

"SOME 30 per cent of Americans cannot say in what year the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks against New York's World Trade Centre and the Pentagon in Washington took place, according to a poll published in the Washington Post newspaper.

"While the country is preparing to commemorate the fifth anniversary of the attacks that claimed nearly 3000 lives and shocked the world, 95 per cent of Americans questioned in the poll were able to remember the month and the date of the attacks.

"But when asked what year, 30 per cent could not give a correct answer..."

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20078887-2,00.html


still looking for the actual WP poll...

8/10/2006 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous jules said...

>>If you boys don't drink semen, you won't grow big," a Sambian elder tells prepubescent initiates. "You should not be afraid of eating penises ... it is just like the milk of your mother's breast. You can ingest it all of the time and grow quickly. A boy must be ... inseminated... If [he] doesn't eat semen, he remains small and weak."<<

I just had a twisted thought.

Have you seen how big islanders are?

Fucking huge. I played volleyball against some Fijians once and there not many scarier sights than one of those huge mothers spiking at you.

BTW In his autohgiography Crowley reckoned he did some ritual where he ate his own sperm for weeks and then developed a huge reseviour of strength.

Personally I think he was having a laugh, but you never know.

Irie is on to something with the portal idea, both Tolkiens thoughts and the Parsons story...

I have done my fair share of intense stuff, and some pretty weird magic over the years, enough to laugh at old Danny Dipshit or whatever his name was that Richie found the other week.

But I would never write that stuff off. I have seen enough of the truly tripped out to know whats going on (as far as anyone ever can).

In that context all ths magical stuff....

its like pottery, its what YOU make of it. All this bullshit about other powers outside is exactly that. bullshit. but as a metaphor it works well. Cos when people deal with power they often do it in a context of surrendering themselves, to something outside themselves, that isn't the nexus between them and the rest of creation.

Then this weird feedback loop where these self created entities either cause behaviour in an individual almost identical to what would happen if they were real; or else the individuals act of surrender has opened a door beyond themselves. A portal to those things that ARE real. This loop causes effects that seem like they are generated by the powers from beyond, whether they are or not.

It doesn't matter cos the metaphor works to describe the effects.

From my experience of Lovecraftan entities, they are extremely powerful things and I dunno what would happen if you invoked them while sexually abusing children. Iam sure the results would be extremely ugly tho.

Richard, in the above context think about your relationship with women who you aren't married to:

Similar thing should happen with sex, as abusive relationships will breed evil monsters, what will positive relationships that work fairly well breed?

Not angels for kids I am sure, but they won't be completely fucked either. But thats not what i meant. there is a sacred aspect to sex and it can have weird effects. I get a similar thing, to you re women, especially when I am in a relationship, but it happened even before I was married, and when I didn't wear wedding rings or anything like that. my wife and I have been together for 12 years and still have a great sex life, not as frequent as when we got together, but that was years ago, and it doesn't seem as important a thing, we know we have heaps of tieme together, well assume that, but its kind of true on some weird level.

But I don't even think I could conceive the idea of fucking someone else. I dunno if I'd want to ever again for the rest of my life. Thats what I thought when I got married and it hasn't actually changed, maybe I was brainwashed as a catholic kid, who cares.

But chicks go for it. I think they can subconsciously sense we have something good and they want in on it. But it could be that cos you get bathed in awesome Godess energy it just has weird ripple effects in the world.

Its not like I am Brad Pitt, but my mouth looks a bit like his would if fight club was real.

"A question to consider is why someone like Scher, who in his previous posting was apparently engaged in the covert pursuit of luring foreign paedophiles to his host country, would be considered an appropriate appointee for the position of consul to Australia."

Cos Australia has gone to shit.

One thing I have noticed about our psyche over the last 15 years is the erosion of the traditional "stuff you" attitude Australia has to authority. These days people treat what politicians say as if it has some validity.

But also working on the theory that anything illegal is only illegal as a cover for a turf war. There has been a huge meme war in Australia over the last 10 years to change the people who arrange for the movement of refugees across borders and waters to be called first people smugglers, then people traffickers.

At the same time there are anecdotal and probably official reports showing a huge increase in the illegal trafficking of women, especially from central-eastern and northern asia. Although probably from elsewhere as well.

Not that prostitution is anything new, but the concept of sexual slavery is something the Australian media pushes, partly in the asian (= evil) context i mentioned earlier. Links the idea that people that bring refugees to Australia and set up the non government approved immigration networks are the same people who set up women in sexual slavery that is brutal and violent and degrading. It may be true, but most of the horror stories come from women lured here to work the relieved of their passport and visa, and the threat of a desert detention centre held over their head if they go to the authorities.

Also when i was looking into that Transnistria stuff.

"President Vladimir Voronin of Moldova has announced, during a visit to Israel, that the two countries have begun drafting an agreement to combat trafficking in women. Moldova is one of the largest source countries for the international prostitution trade and Israel is a frequent destination for smugglers from the former Soviet Union, so a bilateral treaty between the two countries would be a major step in fighting this traffic."



"A step in the direction of more modern legal strategies was taken recently with the drafting of an optional protocol to supplement the United Nations Convention against Transnational Organized Crime. This protocol, which entered into force on December 25, 2003, has been ratified by 75 countries (although not Israel or Moldova) and provides for mutual aid in four areas: assistance in investigation, prosecution and extradition of traffickers and trafficking rings; protection of witnesses and victims; coordination of preventive programs; and cooperation in repatriating women to their home countries. The Israeli-Moldovan treaty is still in the conceptual stage, but it will probably include similar provisions along with more specific details such as designation of the authorities responsible for carrying out the agreement."


Dunno if there is anything in it or not.

8/10/2006 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous jules said...

http://headheeb.blogmosis.com/archives/026881.html

Thats where those quotes come from.

8/10/2006 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The headline yesterday on Antiwar.com said it all: "Israel thrusts more deeply into Lebanon." Death, imitating life, sewing not seeds of fertility but spores of fungal hatred. Even the word, 'Lebanon,' sounds feminine, and fits with the theme of rape. Or is it just me?

Let us not explore the phonemic connotations of the word 'Iraq.'

Above, someone wrote:

"I was deeply in a militant feminist mode in college, so all I can remember thinking is that men will do anything, risk anything, cultivate anything to get off sexually."

An interesting sentence, in itself. But thus the effectiveness of blackmail. Once you have a diplomat, military asset, political figure dead to rights, not only in flagrante delicto, but as a pedophile, you can do anything you want with him. Some embarrassments are sustainable, some aren't. Even OJ is out and playing golf somewhere.

What percent of the U.S. Congress are actively being blackmailed? Any guesses?

C-fish: You actually believe in that "demonic portal" crap? Get thee to a rosary.

8/10/2006 09:40:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Dr. Seuss got it right. Thing #1 and Thing #2 or Timeline #1 and Timeline #2. The future of mankind is in the decisions made in the present. Hardening the present is ordering the future. Will mankind survive Armagedden above ground or below ground? On the planet or off the planet? Apparently, the humans that survive underground, revisit the humans in present time with a malady which seems to require the DNA of the unadulterated humans in the present. They are called the Greys and if you can't trust the whistleblowers that have been sidelined or exterminated by TPTB, who can you trust? The other group of "survivors" from the surface are the Nordics. This blonde haired blue eyed visitation from the future don't like to interfere with the present for the reason that bringing the black hole energy or time travelling potals into the past, brings baggage. The history of man is sprinkled with visitations from the future be it "channelling" science fiction, literature or fantastic inventions like Watts invention of the steam engine or Tesla's myriad of "stuff" that appear in their dreams suddenly and completely.

Nostradamus or Shipton or many cultural icons throughout the world have been "seeded" from our future. Timeline #1 and Timeline #2 are not etched in stone nor are they the only options.

The "choices" we face throughout our lives including you as a child having sex with an adult or the choice of an adult having sex with a child given no choice form the timelines. It's in the "choices" where the "hardening" of the present forms the future.

Herein lies the "power" that occultists find in sex with children. If, (let the condemnation fall where it may) sociey decriminalizes personal choices like pot or sex of any description, would that change the timeline? One of the gay bloggers pointed out awhile back that it is usually "men" who entertain sex with children. Think again. To reiterate "hardening"; forced sex is not the same as "choice".

To quote Led....There are two paths you can go by...
Harper is raising the age of consent from 14 to 16. This is an American policy to satisfy more spying on internet with the consequence of timeline 2 in our future. My suggestion would be give 14 year olds the vote. Could they do any worse than we? My conclusion is based solely on what I remember from my childhood. I liked having "choices" and did not appreciate government intervention in anything going on in my head including "the vote".

8/10/2006 09:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Richard said...

Jules, I do agree with you.
On both your take on women & on magick.

I've no experience with magick but I've read enough of your stuff to take you seriously.

I suppose magick is little more than a tool, not unlike a hammer. You can use a hammer to build all manner of wonders, but you can also use it to bash someone's head in.

The women thing....well, I do agree with your take, thought the same things myself, but I framed my post that way primarily because of JDB's blanket statement about guys, the 'men are pigs, women goddesses ' bullshit just rubs me the wrong fucking way sometimes.

I'd no more cheat on my wife than have sex with a kid.
End of story.

In my case, it's probably my Catholic upbringing + all those hallucinogens that I did years ago that kind of interferes with me taking any of my bullshit seriously.
Even the bullshit the little head uses to lead the big head astray.

8/10/2006 10:19:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

yet another thought crime....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlEqtaWpKEU

8/10/2006 10:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This may also explain (to me--sorry about the exhibitionist introspection, folks) why I'm so nervous and repulsed by even considering the whole occult thing."

Well, attempt to stop thinking in terms of "religious versus occult" and think more in terms of perhaps different levels/space dimensions of the same reality that some human practices (whether drugs or other occult attempts to 'bring down' or 'exorcise') seem to be fascinated with tapping, or shutting off the tap.

This gets back into [1] all our collective "holographic reality" theme, on previous posts. and [2] the seemingly holographic "transmitter/receiver/biophoton/quantum reality" quality of our very DNA (with DNA more than simply material cell replication instructions) that many elites want to entirely keep under wraps, even though they are madly experimenting on such arcane things as electroplating DNA with gold and other things and testing "telekenesis" of DNA strands isolated from their 'owners' in some Oak Ridge National Labs research I came across and posted once here.

[3] This additionally gets into Jeff's posts where the cognitive elite were complaining that the "woohoos" were getting "too wise" to be manipulated successfully once they started to understand quantum physics implications of the very structure of "solid" reality.

Instead, since reality is multidimensional, as well as our DNA is the innate portal of that, then the occult, ghosts, possessions are just other physical phenomena of our world as natural as anything you may see in front of you.

The difference is that there are dimensional boundaries between these different tangible universes, though there are real whether we like it or not, and DNA seems to have the capacities to tap and access it for us, or to keep it out.

It's just like that "science oriented ghost research group" (what is their name?)--just simply document and categorize empirical evidence of ghosts (which tend to manifest themselves with specific electromagnetic phenomena sometimes outside of--sometimes within--human visual acuity--instead of build mental walls against it.

Science fails to really "disprove" anything by simply ignoring it-- though that has tended to be the reflex action and low standard of proof by omission of evidence instead of evidence against it.

That's like burning a book and then claiming there is "no documentation" or saying "there is no evidence of this", which may be semantically true, though it's really when different groups refuse to do the research either way (to keep consumers ambivalant about GMO crops risks for instance).

It's a state elite engrained and popularized attitude I think that popularizes such human mental block against looking for things, instead of a lack of information type block.

A great deal of how science in Europe was constructed, by the early 1800s onward as a social discipline was a cultural manifestation of categorizing some phenomena as "unresearchable" as much as others that were researchable. However, there can really be nothing justifying such a division in actual scientific analysis.

That's the rub that has hampered much of what I think Jeff and ourselves are attempting to come to terms with here: the true scientific reality of much of this zany stuff comes face to face with the "consensus reality" of Science dogmatism which has become lower-case 's' science's worst enemy.

If anyone knows the particular RI back links that I'm talking about, please post them?

8/10/2006 11:11:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Someone asked whether I "actually believe in that 'demonic portal' crap" and suggested that if I did, I should get myself to a rosary; then Richard spoke of the lingering after effects of a Catholic upbringing and hallucinogens...these things do leave intermittently apparent trails, of that I am certain. About everything else, I'm not.

Look, you can exercise your reason all you want, which is a good idea, as it generally could use the fresh air, but to imagine that this makes you an entirely "rational" creature is assuming a bit much. Looking at it another way, while it's easy to scoff at supernatural mumbo-jumbo and medieval religious superstition, would you a easily dismiss intuition, or inspiration? Is an artist a rational creature? Even when engaged in something as pedestrian as blogging, do we necessarily plan in advance what flies off our fingertips?

Whether the muses, or demons, exist outside of ourselves is ultimately irrelevant; it's in the effect that the significance lies. Just because I don't believe that Sauron is peering over my shoulder as I write this doesn't mean that putting myself into his thoughtscape doesn't make me nervous. Maybe it is superstition--I was involved, at least at an early age, in an incredibly medieval form of mystical German Catholicism, a pocket of tradition that fled Germany after the failed revolution of 1848, hounded and hated by the invading, occupying Prussians, although the hating part was pretty much reciprocated, and we did have these weird "rituals" and such. Anyone else ever belong to something called the "Blue Army"? Never met Grandpa, but I did play with his Knights of Columbus sword a lot. And there were some odd stories...

But I left all that behind when I was still quite young, rescued by the hippies. On the other hand, all those psychotropic adventures following so closely on the heels of the old weirdness may not have been without some after effect as well. One time they even overlapped, as my disreputable friends met me at the far, untended end of the cemetery near the end of some K of C memorial observance and proceeded to force the purple smoke of some incredibly potent thai stick into my lungs...I can still recall, with uncomfortable clarity, this strange conviction that I had "split" into two beings, one the good Catholic boy still sitting among the militantly dressed sword wavers, the other staggering and cavorting with the furry people dancing on the overgrown stones in the distance (the music carried...)

So, yeah. What is real? I've been wondering.

8/10/2006 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

More on EWS:

Have any of you noticed how it has a profoundly different impact on females than it does males?

My wife immediately mailed the movie back to Blockbuster like she had to get it out of the house. Neither she, not my 8 year old daughter were impressed by it, and my wife is perturbed that I am infatuated with it.

I, on the other hand, was enraptured by the whole thing. I continue to ensconce myself in the details and ramifications.

Also, Jon, what you wrote is nothing short of fabulous, and spot on. Please post your thoughts more often.....they are of incredible value, and I genuinely mean that.

In line with what you said, a weird thing happened to me in the shower today. The shower head has a lever on the right side of it (it's a Water Pik, not one of those small, round builder's specials) that is a permanent fixture on the right side as you are looking at the shower head. The lever is used to control the flow. Well, this morning, the freakin lever is now on the left side as you're looking at the shower head, which is impossible when applying conventional science.

Is this a validation? Has my saying that I am titillated and enticed by this yesterday invited this power into my metaphorical house? Or, has my focus on this opened my eyes to a whole new universe that's always been here, and now that my eyes are opening, I am finally seeing it for what it is?

I suddenly feel the need to imbibe some of Jules' Home Brew. Antone care to join me?

8/10/2006 11:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Wow!!

Somemore weird shit.

I could have swore I typed anyone, and it came out Antone....as in thee Anton.

Freakin...and mine is a background of Catholic Ritual and later Hallucinogenics.

There's something to this whole Catholic thing........I'm not sure what, but I feel the answer is beyond conventional rational boundaries.

8/10/2006 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I doesn't matter what culture you cite as an example...sodomy is evil accross the board.

Those that perp it cloak it with lies to justify it like the "manhood" myth given earlier, or the crowley type magikal power bullshit. If there is any power to be gotten from pedophilia and homosexual sodomy it comes via the demons you please in carrying out the effort. So it's demonic power not personal power, regardless of whether it's recognized as such or not

8/10/2006 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous starroute said...

Hauling things back on topic by brute force . . . latest seems worth a quote. It's dated two days ago, so perhaps it's already come up somewhere here that I missed, but if not . . .

Meet the Masters of the Universe

What local officials blundered into at a remote airport in the farthest corner of Mexico’s Yucatan may have earth-shaking reverberations felt around the world… if the true story of what happened there becomes widely known...

The seizure in Ciudad del Carmen has exposed the links of a global narcotics cartel that may be the most powerful political force on the planet.

Based on court documents, SEC filings, records of incorporation, and interviews with eyewitnesses, the elements which comprise this global narcotics cartel—all of which will be named and covered in this series—include the following:

Rogue U.S. defense contractor Titan Corp in San Diego; CIA proprietary airlines; “fugitive” Saudi billionaires, Gulf States Sheiks and financiers; the Israeli Mossad and right wing Israeli political parties identified with Jewish settler interests; “retired” officers of the CIA and U.S. military intelligence; Texas Republican kingmakers and private investment banks; member of U.S. organized crime...

Also... stock swindlers in Vancouver, Canada responsible for multi-billion dollar financial fraud; officials from the party of Mexican President Vicente Fox; Colombian and Mexican drug cartels; Florida air charter companies which enjoy—as did the Florida aviation companies associated with the terrorist hijackers—apparent official immunity from prosecution; and Lebanese “industrialists” in Mexico known to the Mexican press as the “Narco-Pederastas,” for their penchant for molesting children, with apparent immunity from prosecution, both boys and girls, as young as four.

8/10/2006 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous starroute said...

Hoo boy, the html demon strikes again. Is it me doing something wrong?

At any rate, that should read "Hauling things back on topic by brute force . . . Daniel Hopsicker's latest seems worth a quote," with a link to madcowprod.com.

8/10/2006 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

At any rate, that should read "Hauling things back on topic by brute force .

Perhaps you can explain to us what you mean by back on topic. What has been discussed thus far is all related to the same topic, including your post, but not precluding others.

Or, haven't you been paying attention?

This Blog is concerned with connecting the dots, so the discussion of one dot in relation to another is not off topic, IMHO.

8/10/2006 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous One,back when I was a senior in high school 32 years ago,my small town in northern NY had a couple of strange events that stuck out.The first one had to do with the arrest of a 25 year old man that was a brother of a girl I knew in high school.He was arrested on charges of making kiddy-porn,and bring it over the border to Montreal.Everyone that I knew that had known this guy,had no idea he was doing this.He was convicted and sent to Danamora state prison.At the same time this was happening I was taking religous Ed in high school,the teacher we had was a young guy studying to be a priest.One day as we were about to start our class for that week,one of the leaders of the church came in and told us our regular teacher had to leave,and they were replacing him.Later that day we found out that the teacher had raped a good friend of mine's brother a few days before.Well,you will never guess what two persons use to hang together before these events,right on.Well a couple of years ago a friend of mine tells me a little story about talking to the dude that went to jail, and it seems he took the rap for the movies so these higher ups in the town wouldn't go to jail.Now fast forward to last year,I'm reading a story in or local Syracuse paper.The story had to do with two priests that the Vatican secreted out of the US,and where hidden in the Vatican away from the police,both had numorous counts of child rape charges.Much to my surprise they gave the names of the two perps,and guess who one of the guys was,my old teacher,this shit run deeper then you could ever imagin.32 years after he was moved from our town he was still doing the same shit.I have information that there was an active coven in the area at the time this happened in 1973,some of these folks can be connected with the church and a judge in our town.These folks were the power structure in the town,they could make things happen any time they wanted to,nothing here to see,keep moving,later.

8/10/2006 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

AnnaLivia said.....

sorry to point out that over 3000 children under the age of 5 will be starved to death today...like they do everyday. anybody seen their faces on the teevee news? i hear starvation is a lingering and painful death.

and 90% of worldwealth will go today, as it does everyday, to 1% of people. anybody seen their 1% faces on the teevee news?

guess i do know what we're meant not to see. legalized tyranny and slavery of 99% of the world's population.



Well said, Anna. This is where all roads lead.....or more appropriately, all dots. The subjugation of the world's inhabitants through deception and subterfuge, with significant help from our difficulty in lifting our heavy eyelids like semi-comatose junkies.

We now know, what they do, how they do it, when they do it, and who does it. Now, how do you stop it......or, better yet, do you stop it....or, do we reach for the needle and fall back into our stupor......and be grateful we are alive....if that's what you can call it.

8/10/2006 01:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Okay guys.....loosen up......I was joking about my 8 year old daughter watching EWS. I put that in there to see if you were paying attention. I know better than that. I won't let her watch EWS until she turns 9.

8/10/2006 01:25:00 PM  
Anonymous starroute said...

These folks were the power structure in the town,they could make things happen any time they wanted to

That might be the crucial statement in all of this.

No conspiracies here...just power structures that make things happen. Discretely, in private, by words being dropped among powerful people.

Powerful people who become all the more powerful through their involvement in power structures with other powerful people.

And the power structures themselves, held together by mechanisms older than the human species itself. Mechanisms strong enough to get a bunch of alpha males working together instead of trying to eliminate one another as rivals.

Sex for one -- marriage of the top males to each other's sisters and daughters. Or direct male-to-male sexual relationships -- or a combination of both.

Mutual blackmail for another. I more and more get the impression that in the CIA, for example, there's been a sense that you can't really trust somebody unless you can blackmail them. (The CIA has clearly always functioned as a power structure in this sense and not as an objective government bureaucracy.)

Not that run-of-the-mill blackmail isn't still useful for underlings -- or politicians. But the real thrill -- the quasi-sexual excitement -- comes from blackmail among equals.

And a step yet beyond that is the ultimate power of shared indiscretions. The mechanism of guilt, the rush of getting away with something forbidden, combined with the bond formed with those few from whom you don't have to hide your guilty secrets.

Democracy has been, as much as anything else, an attempt to break the old, old hold of the power structures by depersonalizing government. But it seems to be a never-ending battle. Get rid of the old aristocracies, and you find yourself fighting Tammany Hall, or the Mafia, or the CIA.

I guess the real question is when human beings will get rational enough for public systems of governance to permanently outweigh the old, private power structures. Until then, it's going to continue to be an uphill struggle.

8/10/2006 01:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks to all of you for fantastic dialogue. I see a blending of ideas into something to use for contemplation - what is reality? Is it possible there is no past or future, only NOW in different dimensions?

I want to be able to wear my "No Fear" cap and t-shirt with confidence. Connecting the dots, indeed.

Regarding EWS and Kubrick. It's important to remember that he completed the film 2001: A Space Odyssey in 1968. The 1st Apollo moon landing happened in 1969. It's been suggested he filmed it. Kubrick knew what was going on. He died mysteriously and suddenly just days after EWS was completed.

And regarding the moon:

Who Built The Moon?
by Christopher Knight and Alan Butler

Book Description

The authors of Civilization One return, bringing new evidence about the Moon that will shake up our world. Christopher Knight and Alan Butler realized that the ancient system of geometry they presented in their earlier, breakthrough study works as perfectly for the Moon as it does the Earth. They found a consistent sequence of integer numbers that they can apply to every major aspect of the Moon; no such pattern emerges for any other planet or moon in the solar system. In addition, Knight and Butler discovered that the Moon possesses few or no heavy metals and has no core—something that should not be possible. Their persuasive conclusion: if higher life only developed on Earth because the Moon is exactly what it is and where it is, it becomes unreasonable to cling to the idea that the Moon is a natural object—an idea with profound implications.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1842931636/104-0084580-9329513?v=glance&n=283155

8/10/2006 02:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Luposapien said...

I'm surprised to see no comments as of yet on the story of the alleged UK terror plot allegedly foiled by our buddies accross the pond.

It looks as if Bush is already palying the 'Be afraid, be very afraid' angle.

From the BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4781185.stm

Bush says plot a 'stark reminder':

US President George W Bush
President Bush said the US remained under threat
President George W Bush has said a plot to bomb US-bound flights from the UK is a "stark reminder" that the US is still at war with Islamic extremists.

Mr Bush said it showed "Islamic fascists... will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom".

He said the US was more secure now than before the attacks of 11 September 2001, but was not "completely safe".

US officials said the foiled plot involved detonating liquid explosives on board multiple commercial aircraft.

The US government has for the first time raised the state of terror alert to red - its highest level - for flights from Britain.

It has also increased the general level of security for all domestic and international flights.

Extra sky marshals are being deployed on flights between the US and UK, and passengers have been banned from carrying any liquids and gels on to planes.

Unnamed US officials said the airlines targeted were United, American and Continental, and involved flights to New York, Washington and California.

'A dangerous world'

Speaking in Green Bay, Wisconsin, Mr Bush said despite increased security measures since 2001, it would be a "mistake to believe there was no threat to the US".

"The American people need to know we live in a dangerous world, but our government will do everything we can to protect our people from those dangers," he added.

Mr Bush had discussed the plot "in recent days" with UK Prime Minister Tony Blair, White House spokesman Tony Snow said.

Michael Chertoff, US Director of Homeland Security, said the scheme was "suggestive of an al-Qaeda plot".

"It was sophisticated, it had a lot of members and it was international in scope," he said.
------

Other articles mentioned an 'unprecedented' level of surveilance which led to the arrests. Somehow that doesn't make me feel any safer.

Also seems to have not bee too good for the stock of major airlines. I wonder if anyone dumped large shares just beforehand...

8/10/2006 02:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff this is a great song. Listen to it (again)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=268ZbJj4ODU

8/10/2006 02:32:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Nice short summary of the moon book here: Who Built the Moon

8/10/2006 02:40:00 PM  
Anonymous lower tiberius said...

According to Garp: the only anti-terror strike the current spiffy assed (if illegal earmark laden/illegal fraud handout)and somewhat newly(hey... the graft can go on forever doan cha know) formulated homeland security department could muster in a crisis situation would be against a peanut butter and jelly wielding pre-teen who would produce it as a deterent while attempting to resist their recruiting her/him into sexual slavery and he/she replied "no". Nuf said ... world's safe again whew!

8/10/2006 03:11:00 PM  
Anonymous lower tiberius said...

Several points come to mind when I reconsidered some earlier posts and overlay those with current events on the Marianas involving our representatives, the interior department's mechinations, lobbyists in DC and the (governments) there. They decidedly WANT slavery to exist. They feel it's good for Wall Street (k=street corruption) and ensures the flesh host will remain for them to feed off while they insert the felspar inclusion into what will take off and infect the future from here. They consider themselves visitors who like determined party goers wont hesitate to tear up a hotel room. (think I'm kidding check out earlier post on the fact that america has plans to make all or most of the world unusable in case they .... dont win ...or in a sense ... have fun)

8/10/2006 03:33:00 PM  
Anonymous lower tiberius said...

here's me throwing my lunch at the Bush crime cartel ... and running and screaming mommy! after all she's the only one that can save us

8/10/2006 03:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

My place of employ is abuzz today about the latest Terrorist Scare.

Them: Did you hear the news?

Me: No (I did, but I dodn't want to give them the satisfaction.)

Them: You didn't?

Me: No

Them: The Terrorists were going to blow up planes coming from England. It was al-Qaeda.

Me: Is it lunch yet?

8/10/2006 04:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One should point out, pedo-procurer Arie Scher never did take up the diplomatic post in Australia - what with the Internet and all, word got around, and the nomination was quickly withdrawn.
The question remains, of course, of how they could even think of naming this guy as a replacement.

8/10/2006 05:49:00 PM  
Blogger JBD said...

Just to clarify - I wrote that I was in a militant feminist mode in college to illustrate why I could *at the time* accept a simple explanation for the SemenSexRituals.. Now, decades later, I have benefited from various other lenses through which culture and society can be viewed.

As for feminism, a terrific eye-opening awareness resulted. But in the end, it turns out that there is more variation within each gender group than between.

It's a common trope, though, not even among feminists: e.g. Dennis Miller "Ladies, you want sex, but we're guys...we NEED sex..."

But obviously, as with most inexplicable topics, it's more complicated than that. Sex has a profound psychological element and is embroiled in issues concerning power/control. It's at once base and utterly sacred.

Anyway, didn't mean to push buttons. Even a decades old generality can be provocative.

For the record, I am never hit on more than when I'm in a relationship...and usually, the man knows it. Men ...oops...SOME men make sport of hitting on some other guy's wife/girlfriend just as SOME women thrill at hitting on some other girl's husband/boyfriend.

Maybe it's the challenge, but I like to think that it's because the intimacy shared is gloriously transformative and marks you with something almost imperceptible, but exuded nonetheless, like the presence or absence of fear that predators can "smell".

8/11/2006 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A Space Odyssey in 1968. The 1st Apollo moon landing happened in 1969. It's been suggested he [Kubrick] filmed it [for the NASA fraudsters]."

Really? First I heard that. Tell more or what you read about it for us. Would hardly surprise me.

I doubt Apollo nonsense was real, particularly given all the heaps of information in "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way To the Moon."

Here's a little video introduciton to that film.

"The Space Shuttle, so far, has killed fourteen people, merely trying to attain an orbit about two hundred fifty miles above the Earth. How is it then, that a third of a century ago, with less computing power in the entire rocket than in a present day twenty dollar Wal-Mart watch, NASA claims to have gone 100,000% farther, six different times between 1969 and 1972, landing on another celestial body and then returning, without ever killing anyone? How could they have powered air conditioning in two hundred fifty degree heat for three days with batteries? Why is the "second round" of "returning" to the moon estimated to be no earlier than half a century after the first? (Would there be a fifty-year span between the first and second trips across the Atlantic in an airplane?)

If the moon landings were, as we believe, a government deception, then George Orwell's comment, "whoever controls the past, controls the future" is a scary wakeup call to insist that our government reform to the truthfulness of our founding father "who could not tell a lie." Otherwise, the powers that be will continue their addiction to deception and we all will be worse off for it."

film intro excerpt, inline video

The interviewer is describing the classified tape to a 'deer in the headlights' looking astro, saying "Faking the moon mission, 20 takes from an unedited accidentally misfiled classsified reel of the Apollo 11 mission, they
put the transparency [of the earth] over the window...they said it was the same way you did it on Apollo 10...so I'd just like to get you to swear on the Bible that you walked on the moon."

Then the terrified "astronought" runs from the interviewer.

'Moon mission' was an in orbit fakery. It took off, though they never went anywhere except with a group of transparencies they placed over the window, and they know it. These people have probabaly been threatened with jail if they ever really talk about this NASA cold war fraud, done in the midst of the Nixon administration...

http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/intro.html

Now I'm of the opinion that people have been to the moon--easily--in black project craft instead of that rinky dink Apollo thing that would have killed them with the radiation belt long before they got there, much less they lacked the fuel to get there and back.

The 'moon mission of Apollo' has more holes than a moon made of green swiss cheese.

Yes, alas on the issue of getting off topic. Though what can you expect? Since the "Bojinka Redux" is obviously a fake terror alert like all the others, getting our own topic seems more important than reacting as expected. How does one get excited about yet another empty non-event like non-events of the past five years that Bush has been peddling.

Why "react" to something that's not really occuring?

The whole U.S./U.K. Fourth Reich has lost the charm of a novel shocking lie and it's just the Nazi 'big lie' recipe. Hanging is all Bush and Blair and Company deserve.

"Catapult the propoganda" indeed.

Distract the world from their own truly documented war crimes for pabulum fluff without proof they put out over the airwaves to drone it out.


The Gulag of Our Times

BushCo. are attacking Amnesty International. From Common Dreams:

Stung by Amnesty International's condemnation of U.S. detention facilities in Iraq and elsewhere overseas, the administration of President George W. Bush is reacting with indignation and even suggestions that terrorists are using the world's largest human rights organization.

[...]

At issue is an Amnesty report released last Thursday that assailed U.S. detention practices. Since its release, a succession of top administration officials and their right-wing backers in the major media has denounced the London-based group in what appears increasingly like an orchestrated effort to discredit independent human rights critics. A similar campaign appeared to target Newsweek magazine earlier this month.

"It looks like a campaign," Human Rights Watch advocacy chief Reed Brody said Tuesday. "There's been a real drumbeat since Amnesty published the report. It seems like there's an attempt to silence critics."

[...]

Amnesty's Secretary General, Irene Khan, made the specific allegation against which the administration has unleashed its fury.

She referred to the overseas network of U.S. detention facilities established by Washington in Iraq and elsewhere as part of what it calls its "global war on terror," as "the gulag of our times," a reference to the system of prison and labor camps run during the Stalinist period of the former Soviet Union.

[...]

"You really don't have to look further than the Pentagon's own reports," said Elisa Massimino, Washington director of Human Rights First, formerly the Lawyers Committee for Human Rights. "There's ample substantiation of serious abuses," she said, adding that the administration's "ostrich approach" was "dangerous. The problems are there, and they're going to continue to pose a risk to U.S. lives and policy until they're dealt with."

HRW's Brody echoed that view. "What is sad is that this effort at damage control may work in the U.S.," he said, "but unless the administration addresses the real issues of concern -- torture, rendition, disappearances, systematic humiliation of Muslim prisoners -- then the U.S. image in the world will continue to erode."

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But I thought that the poor image of the United States was all Newsweek's fault...

And from Salon,

By the moment of Bush's press conference, every nuance of his response on the issue had been carefully configured and rehearsed by Cheney, Rice, Myers et al. "I'm aware of the Amnesty International report, and it's absurd," the president began. Then he repeated himself: "It's an absurd allegation." The country, he declared, is virtuous, and therefore, he suggested, his motives must be innocent. "The United States is a country that is -- promotes freedom around the world." Under him, the rule of law prevails: "When there's accusations made about certain actions by our people, they're fully investigated in a transparent way."

Bush repeated himself again: "It's just an absurd allegation." Once again, he claimed nothing had gone amiss. "In terms of the detainees, we've had thousands of people detained. We've investigated every single complaint against the detainees." Every complaint, he assured his audience, was false because the motives of the detainees are as evil as his are pure: "It seemed like to me they based some of their decisions on the word of -- and the allegations by -- people who were held in detention, people who hate America." Here, Bush turned lexicographer: "people that had been trained in some instances to disassemble [sic]-- that means not tell the truth." In conclusion he banged again on his drum: "And so it was an absurd report. It just is."

It may be of minor ironic interest that before the invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration cited Amnesty International's reports on Saddam Hussein's violations of human rights as unimpeachable texts.

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In the week before his press conference and as the Amnesty report was released, Bush expounded on his theory of communications. "See," he said, "in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." [May 24, 2005]

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Catapult the propoganda?!?! So what Bush really means is "Screw humanity, the White House needs to focus on winning the next election."

http://www.shamelessagitator.com/archives/2005_06_02_shamelessagitator_archive.html

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