Wednesday, November 15, 2006

Unconscious Kingdom (Part Two)



Nobody knows what's coming down,
but it's coming down - T Bone Burnett

Getting back, in a roundabout way, to this and the walls of our cave, I've been thinking of eyelash mites. Familiar with them? They're familiar with us. They're burrowed head-down in our pores, gripping our follicles with their tiny claws, binging on oil and dead skin cells. Untold generations have known nothing but our noses, brows and eyelashes where they're as good as top of the food chain. But even when we know they're there, we don't have cause to think much about it.

They're familiar with us - they live on us, in every sense - but they don't know us. How could they? Even if they were raised to self-awareness and could comprehend their immediate circumstance and of what their world consisted, they would still lack our imperfect frame of reference. They wouldn't know what we know, let alone what we don't know. And how much don't we know?

I've always found it difficult to conceive that a third of the static on a television set tuned to an unallocated channel is cosmic radiation. I mean, it's in my home. How can something so familiar do something so incredible? I know TVs, radios and other electronic devices pick up "stray electromagnetic waves," but it doesn't seem right somehow that the same instrument on which I can watch another Seinfeld rerun also presents the decaying of photons from our universe's roiling moment of creation.

Remember the Scole Experiment? Grant and Jane Solomon's book includes testimony from Scole witnessDr Ernst Senkowsky, who writes:

Throughout history, "mediums" in "trance" states have expressed "transinformation" and performed "transcommunication" through speech or automatic writing. Since the 1950s, all types of electronic apparatus (audio-tapes, video tapes, radios, telephones, TVs, computers) have been used in this field. Each piece of apparatus constitutes the final link in a hypothetical translation chain. They delivered messages from no-where into now-here and allowed dialogues with otherwise hidden "virtual transpartners" or "communicators."

Anyone slightly curious about the Scole material will likely already be familiar with EVP, "Electronic Voice Phenomenon, " and have heard some of the recorded samples here. Some see, in the video experiments, little people akin to Terrence McKenna's "self-transforming machine elves" of DMT.

From last year's post about Scole:

The video experiments began in May 1997, and were dubbed "Project Alice" because they involved an arrangement of mirrors before a camera "to capture moving images sent from the spirit world," write the Solomon's. (Mirrors have long been used as an aid to receiving visions from other realms. John Dee's obsidian mirror, used by his scryer Edward Kelly in his Enochian work, is on display in the British Museum.)

For most of the experiments, the camera sat on its tripod in the dark positioned before two mirrors. At the end of the sessions the team often saw that the camera had repeatedly and impossibly zoomed in and out on its own accord, and the tapes contained weird scenes, smiling faces, vibrant colours and hints of body parts moving across the screen in a red light. One tape showed a pink and gold line running horizontally down the screen, which pivoted to reveal it was a square shape on edge. As it rotated, it was seen to contain an image. According to the Scole team, "this was a very clear view of an animated inter-dimensional friend, whose features, to say the least, were not exactly as our own." They called their new friend "Blue." His screen capture is the classic "grey alien" on the top left of this post. The pyramids on the right are from another spirit transmission, presumably some etheric vista.


The Scole group's Robin Foy tells the Solomons that "some of the researchers within the transcommunication network say they are regularly receiving messages from the spirit world via their telephones, computers and fax machines," and speculates about the possibility of an "interdimensional Internet": "computers are based on semi-conductors and the spirit scientists [at Scole, experiments were made on "both sides" to facilitate communication] often told us that these semi-conductors, like germanium and silicon, have important properties that allow the bridges between dimensions to be crossed."

Our cave walls are now flat screens, and perhaps not everything that appears on them can be accounted for by our own hands and imagination. That is not to assume they are also portals for "departed spirits," which is the claim of the disincarnate intelligences (if that is what they are). Perhaps something else is going on.

UFOs are also an electromagnetic phenomenon, though of a much higher order of strangeness than our television sets. But what should we make of the congruities between the wiring of our socieities and the explosive flaps of "flying saucers" and "alien" sightings? Compounding the mystery Dr Kenneth Ring, in The Omega Project, has tabulated an inclination towards "Electrical Sensitivity Syndrome" in subjects who have had either a UFO encounter or a Near-Death Experience. Nearly half of the former and a quarter of the latter agreed with the statement, "I found that electric or electronic devices more often malfunctioned in my presence than I remember being the case before." (Only a fraction of control groups agreed.) A 53-year old radio station manager named Hazel Underwood told Ring that "after the [UFO] 'incident' I was able to literally 'cut off' a 1,000 watt radio transmitter." A 43-year old administrator with a history of abduction experiences said "I am extremely sensitive to high frequencies.... I have continual problems with cars and the electrical systems (like trunk releases automatically popping open, radios full of static...electronic anomalies within the home."

A 36-year old woman, a survivor of a Near Death Experience, wrote:

Dr Ring, I have a difficult time as many computers malfunction and lights will blow out when I walk under them. This has happened for years, and I tried to ignore that this was happening. I simply cannot wear a watch for long before it breaks down. I went to...a department store and walked in front of their brand new computer and it quit working. When I held up a flourescent light bulb in my hands the entire bulb lit up, like it was turned on. It seemed like there was a lot of static electricity.

Alleged entities advising the use of electronic devices as gateways; the electromagnetic effects of close encounters; Electrical Sensitivity Syndrome in both UFO contactees and Near Death survivors: what frame of reference do we have to account for all this, and can it be possible to find one that does from our mundane perspective?

Which reminds me of eyelash mites, and this perspectival shift:

Bed mites have one mission and one mission only, they are intent on eating you alive every single night that you crawl into bed to go to sleep. And their plan is foiled every single morning when your alarm wakes you up because God, in his infinite wisdom, cursed them with mouths too small to feasilbly consume all of you in an eight-hour period.

But don't believe for a second that they aren't trying. Because they are.

64 Comments:

Blogger Sounder said...

I love it, just how much are we missing?

11/15/2006 08:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there a relationship between "Eyes Wide Shut" and Hunter Thompson?

11/15/2006 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thrulookingglass
Wow Jeff, this ones a real head scratcher. Scole had gone down my memory hole and it was interesting to review their experiments. What's so amazing is how this all dovetails into things like channeling the nine, Uri Gellar, SRI and the recent conversation on the forum regarding the statement made by a MOD chief
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=9139
I have a hard time believing that we aren't being lead down the wrong paths on some of these channeling events. When you add in all the acronym agencies involvement in these experiments, seeing clearly through the lense seems impossible. Those film exposures from Scole are someting to behold.

11/15/2006 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Bismillah said...

The really striking thing about the Scoles images (reprinted on Jeff's older post) is how clearly fake they look. By "fake" I mean they look like figures cut out of cardboard. The "grey" resembles nothing more than a Halloween mask, and the sunset behind those strangely pointy pyramids looks as if it had been painted by a ten-year-old.

NOTE: I am not dismissing the whole thing out of hand, or indeed at all. I'm just trying to describe accurately what I see.

Does anyone else feel the same? If those images were really sent out by some higher intelligence, why do they look so (frankly) crappy and kitschy?

11/15/2006 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

folklore, mythology, cultural studies and related disciplines

11/15/2006 09:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Richard said...

"Bed mites have one mission and one mission only, they are intent on eating you alive every single night that you crawl into bed to go to sleep. And their plan is foiled every single morning when your alarm wakes you up because God, in his infinite wisdom, cursed them with mouths too small to feasilbly consume all of you in an eight-hour period.

But don't believe for a second that they aren't trying. Because they are."

How is this different than humans & their relationship with a herd of cattle or a field of carrots or the effing earth for that matter.
We consume & are in turn consumed.
It is utterly just & fitting.
& when we finally burst through the finish line of our little rat race & topple headfirst into that 6x6x3 foot hole in the ground all manner of squiggly squirmy little beasties will complete the feast.

"life feeds on life feeds on life...."

As far as Scole goes, Mark Pilkington has pointed out in Fortean Times that there is nothing in the Scole experiments that couldn't be replicated by a good stage magician. I can't find the reference right now but one of the Scole participants even admitted as much in the magazine. The lack of any sceptics in the Scole group would also lead one to question the veracity of their conclusions.
Scole, much like The Hunt for the Skinwalker with its cover blurb that states "Science Confronts the Unexplained at a Remote Ranch in Utah," when examined closely betray a complete lack of anything related to science or the scientic method.

Of course, it may be that science is ill-equipped to handle such things as paranormal phenomena. But selling these things as science & then fudging on the scientific method just further alienates them from the kind of rigorous scientific examination they may well deserve.

11/15/2006 09:47:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Bed bugs and UFO's in the same post? Multi-dimensional stuff Jeff. Reminds me that W.B. Yeats wrote A Vision based on the automatic writing of his wife which later on in his poetry he discussed in "Leda and the Swan". The suggestion here being that Leda gained some sort of insight into the world of Zeus while in the clutches of the swan. And then, consider for a moment in the multitude of dimensions and aliens reported to be insect like and evolved a billion years ahead of us. And apparently, many still see we puny humans as sustinence. Might as well; everyone else does..

11/15/2006 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous lower tiberius said...

Crystal construction, geomancy, and shadow changes on the green carpet prairie all form a language, vocabulary, and dialogue. Energy that tells a bird it's being looked at, a complusion to continue preparing. Odd that there's an event considered now. For desmodexus folliculorum it's time to eat.

11/15/2006 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous wrote above: ' I have a hard time believing that we aren't being lead down the wrong paths on some of these channeling events. When you add in all the acronym agencies involvement in these experiments, seeing clearly through the lense seems impossible. Those film exposures from Scole are someting to behold.'

I agree.

When I first read about the Scole Experiments, I just had to have that book. It's all fascinating, of course. But what is it that just doesn't ring true, even if you want it to?

Several middle-aged people gathering regularly; the reported scrupulous handing of equipment; the assurances of supposedly expert witnesses regarding the integrity of the participants, etc. And yes, those photos. I even saved them from the Scole website and return to them from time to time. Blue? So cute. So ... Disney?

If the Blue photo is genuine, then the rest of the Scole photos must be. Conversely, if you accept the others, then you may as well accept Blue.

But what does it MEAN ? Are we to believe that disembodied faces encased in bubbles and belonging to the deceased (and Blue-type entities) are floating around us in the same way as the cosmic static Jeff mentioned re: our untuned tv sets?

What of the otherwordly personalities we're assured were in contact with the Scole group? They puported to be disembodied former earth residents.

We're assured by the Scole group that several of these entities were well-versed in electronics and tutored the Scole group in creating devices to assist the cross-dimensional contact.

But WHAT, really, did the Scole Experiments achieve? The reader is still required to take it all on trust, regardless of the recommendations of the allegedly unbiased witnesses. And even if we DO believe the claims of the Scole group, it would be a rare person who didn't feel (at the book's conclusion) a definite sense of let-down. For NOTHING really emerged during the experiments, other than the usual round of hand-shaking between the Scole group and the disembodied entities.

Sure, the first and even tenth account we read of contact between the living and the 'others' may be fascinating stuff. But it reaches the point when you feel like groaning: " Ok. Ok. They've given you little gifts and you have your untouched-by-human-hands roll of film proving 'their' existence. Now let's get onto something imPORtant ! "

But it never happens. Instead we hear how Aunty Mabel is impatiently pushing aside the others in order to 'come through' and we hear of the chummy other-dimensional tea-parties where the deceased gather at the end of a long day is WhereverLand. But is that IT ? Is that ALL?

Why do they bother 'coming through' if all they have to say when they DO manage to establish communication is so pointless, basically, and trite?

They have an over-view that's denied those of us who're still in physical vehicles and, if the Scole group's claims are true, the disembodied entities have the power to move things around and effect other minor miracles.

So what the hell are they doing wasting time with virgin rolls of film, light-shows and chat-sessions, when instead they could be putting their energies and abilities to far better use in -- for example -- frightening numerous murderous political figures to the point they stopped their wars-for-profit and began earning their keep as servants of the people?

Are we to believe these disembodied entities are impotent -- or uncaring of the human condition? They have an overview of the carnage in Iraq, yet they spend countless hours putting on little light shows for half a dozen Scole members. So what ARE their priorities?

Be nice, wouldn't it, to hear about some entity/deceased individual who made contact in order to say: " Ok. Here I am. In real life my name was Joe Bloggs. You will find proof of who I was when alive within an undiscovered document about which I will now tell you. Not that it's important, but I know you humans like a bit of proof. Now -- of far more pressing concern is that lunatic leader of X-country. I've been sitting up/out here watching his shennanigans and a group of my disembodied friends and I have had a gut-full. We're not going to sit by any longer. At noon on the 27th of this month -- yes write it down and tell the media -- we are going to lift that lunatic leader up by his ears. Up, up and up, before a crowd of thousands while he's delivering a speech. Up, up and away, baby, because when we drop him and he falls to earth, he will be dead as a Dodo and yes, you can quote me on that, in advance. That's for starters. After that, if we don't see a radical improvement in the lunatic leaders in CIA, FBI and Mossad within ONE week, we're going to vanish them in a puff of smoke and toss bits of their skeletons onto the floor of Congress. Then we'll begin clean-up operations on that sadly abused world down there. So tell the media to be ready for the scoop of their careers. Over and out. We have work to do. And no, I don't know your dead Uncle Albert. But I've heard of him. He was a bore when he was alive and nothing's changed. Au revoir for now."

Now THAT would be proof of something wondrous from 'the other side' and would serve a multitude of purposes.

Unfortunately, all we have and all we seem to receive, is Disney 'paranormal photos' of a blue Caspar creature, plus a few images of people who could be anyone, alive or dead. Time to ramp up the otherworldly contact and save it from the novelty feature it's been for way too long.

11/15/2006 10:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Richard said...

One other thing, my wife's friend's husband claimed to have the same spooky relationship with electrical devices. He repeatedly claimed that he could shut off/blow out streetlamps. Of course, everytime I asked him to demonstrate his ability nothing happened. He had many excuses such as his lack of prep time or my obvious scepticism. I don't doubt that he sincerely believed what he was saying but I do doubt that any of it was true in a literal real world sense.
My point is that these printed claims are fine for what they are, but, without actually witnessing any of it myself, I just find them hard to swallow.
He also, coincidentally, believed he was reincarnated Egyptian royalty & he told me that the best time to see a ufo was during a meteor shower. He also 'channeled spirits' & gave Tarot card readings. Both activities I did witness. The channeling was actually quite amusing, even causing me to laugh out loud a few times which must have pissed off "the spirits" because he quickly ended the session.
His Tarot reading was for my wife & , from what I can tell, about as far off the mark as you could get. It...it...it was almost like he was making it all up off the top of his head. But that just couldn't possibly be true now could it? People don't just make shit like this up, now do they?

As far as anon's mention of Uri Geller, there is a great clip on YouTube of Mr. Geller's appearrance on an old Tonight Show. As you probably know, Carson was an accomplished magician. Geller sits next to Carson in front of a covered table filled with his props; keys he'll bend, watches he will stop, etc. When he lifts the cover he finds that Carson has replaced the props Geller brought with exact duplicates that Carson had sent his staff out to buy. The total "holy fucking shit" look on Geller's face is just priceless.

As Penn Gillette says, "It's bullshit."

11/15/2006 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember Matthew Manning?

Now he was interesting. As a school boy he was the apparent focus of poltergeist activity that finally resulted in his being reluctantly asked to leave his boarding school. But WAS it poltergeist activity?

The Manning family owned a comfortable old house in the country, where Matthew had a number of highly important experiences, if his accounts in his book The Link are accurate and if the testimony of numerous experts are to be believed.

For example, Matthew was contacted by a man who'd owned the Manning home, several centuries earlier. Numerous apports floated into Matthew's room; one of them (if memory serves) being a book of several hundred pages, which was 'delivered' one page at a time.
There were also centuries old rolls of bread, centuries old coins, etc.

On another occasion, Matthew was instructed by paranormal-researchers to leave several pencils in his room, after which the room was sealed and observed. When the room was re-opened, the signatures and other information(dates of birth and death, etc) pertaining to several hundred individuals, were found drawn on the wardrobe doors. Later investigation revealed the signatures to have belonged to actual people who had lived centuries earlier and who had been buried in the local churchyard.

Manning was advised to channel his energies into automatic writing, as a means of limiting the often destructive 'poltergeist' activity. In addition to copious notes written in other's handwriting (that of deceased entities etc), Manning also produced in this way a large collection of fairly well executed drawings, purporting to orginate from Picasso and other famous painters. Manning himself was said to have extremely limited artistic talents.

Manning made contact or was contacted by, a mysterious disembodied entity who apparently had considerable medical expertise and who prescribed successful treatments for many, including Manning's own grandmother.

Manning burst into the public eye in the UK in the 1970's, at the same time Uri Geller was receiving enormous publicity. The inevitable comparisons and media attention were said to be responsible for Manning choosing to retire from the public spotlight, after which he concentrated his energies on healing others.

He's still involved in healing work apparently and chooses to keep a low profile.

It's to be suspected that like Robert Monroe, Manning revealed to the public only a fraction of what he knew and had discovered. Monroe and Geller appear to have been shanghied by various intelligence services. Whether or not Manning was also energetically 'debriefed' by the same power-hungry groups, or if by 'retiring' he managed to evade that fate, we'll probably never know, unless Manning writes a tell-all book to be published after his death.

Manning's book, The Link, is still to be found in second-hand book stores, as well as his later book/s. Well worth the read. If even half of Manning's claims (and other's claims ABOUT him) are true, then the after-death state will certainly be interesting. Personally, I believe at least half of Manning's claimed experiences DID occur ... and can understand why he might have wished they'd occurred to someone else !

11/15/2006 11:06:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Speaking of bed mites, Jeff writes:

They're familiar with us - they live on us, in every sense - but they don't know us. How could they? Even if they were raised to self-awareness and could comprehend their immediate circumstance and of what their world consisted, they would still lack our imperfect frame of reference. They wouldn't know what we know, let alone what we don't know. And how much don't we know?

Not to be critical, but when this train of thought--the realization of both our imperfect understanding of the world and the possibility (necessity?) of expanding that understanding--is side-tracked by considerations of whether McKenna's elves are really real, or just what kind of crazy shit is coming across from the spirit world, well, then we've dropped the ball, folks. You're not going to expand your consciousness by praying that Uri can really bend the spoons or that Aunt Carrie is really contacting you through the pattern of dust bunnies running under your bed.

It's not that I'm afraid that we'll be called tin-hatters (there's a guy who quotes me writing here fairly regularly in his "tin-foil department" without any rancor on either side); it's just that such pursuits are kitsch & glitz compared to the real search for meaning, which Jeff captured quite nicely with the bed mite consciousness image. We are only slightly evolved bed mites ourselves.

Very, very briefly, it goes like this. Living beings fall in the consciousness spectrum as follows: unconscious (bed mites and other "simple" organisms), conscious (dogs, horses, etc), self-conscious (man, possibly some apes), and finally, cosmic or unitary consciousness. Without being aware of this spectrum or our position on it, we're not far different from its lowest members.

With this knowledge, however, we can begin to investigate what it is that we know we know (not that epistemology is the same as the search for higher consciousness.) Consider the following "symptoms" reported by subjects in research into STATES OF UNITIVE CONSCIOUSNESS over at the
Council on Spiritual Practices (CSP):

Research Summary

Also called Transcendent Experiences, Ego-Transcendence, Intense Religious Experience, Peak Experiences, Mystical Experiences, Cosmic Consciousness Sources Wuthnow, Robert (1978). Peak Experiences: Some Empirical Tests. Journal of Humanistic Psychology, 18 (3), 59-75.

Noble, Kathleen D. (1987). ``Psychological Health and the Experience of Transcendence.'' The Counseling Psychologist, 15 (4), 601-614.

Lukoff, David & Francis G. Lu (1988). ``Transpersonal psychology research review: Topic: Mystical experiences.'' Journal of Transpersonal Psychology, 20 (2), 161-184.

Furthermore, Greeley found no evidence to support the orthodox belief that frequent mystic experiences or psychic experiences stem from deprivation or psychopathology. His ''mystics'' were generally better educated, more successful economically, and less racist, and they were rated substantially happier on measures of psychological well-being.
(Charles T. Tart, Psi: Scientific Studies of the Psychic Realm, p. 19.)

Long-Term Effects
(from Dr. Wuthnow):

*Say their lives are more meaningful, think about meaning and purpose
*Know what purpose of life is
*Meditate more
*Score higher on self-rated personal talents and capabilities
*Less likely to value material possessions, high pay, job security, fame, and having lots of friends
*Greater value on work for social change, solving social problems, helping needy
*Reflective, inner-directed, self-aware, self-confident life style

(from Dr.Noble):

*Experience more productive of psychological health than illness
*Less authoritarian and dogmatic
*More assertive, imaginative, self-sufficient, intelligent, relaxed
*High ego strength, relationships, symbolization, values, integration, allocentrism, psychological maturity, self-acceptance, self-worth, autonomy, authenticity, need for solitude, increased love and compassion

Now here's where things get interesting. Check out what these researchers have listed under short term effects--in other words, what the subjects had to go through before they got to the good stuff:

Short-Term Effects (usually people who did not previously know of these experiences)

~Experience temporarily disorienting, alarming, disruptive
~Likely changes in self and the world, space and time, emotional attitudes, cognitive styles, personalities, doubt sanity and reluctance to communicate, feel ordinary language is inadequate
~Some individuals report psychic capacities and visionary experience destabilizing relationships with family and friends
~Withdrawal, isolation, confusion, insecurity, self-doubt, depression, anxiety, panic, restlessness, grandiose religious delusions

Now, how familiar do these short term symptoms sound in terms of the discussions that so regularly crop up, circle-wise, here at RI? I think we're just growing up as a species (finally!), despite the contrary indications with we're bombarded every day. For those of you interested in this idea, the CSP site has some great articles & links, including this gnarly essays: Noetic Gnosis: Cosmic Consciousness and Religion and Psychoactive Sacraments An Entheogen Chrestomathy. Just an opinion, but time spent looking into these mirrors might be better spent than chasing ghosts & spoons.

11/15/2006 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

riwdThe charlatans are certainly to be found and it's not difficult finding them.

But every now and then, there's the exception. It's always been that way and it keeps the debate alive.

To my own surprise, I watched one of the exceptions for closet to half an hour, as she did her stuff with someone I knew only slightly.

The exception was an ex-model; still extraordinarily beautiful. She had next to nothing between the ears, was a complete scatterbrain, shallow to a ridiculous degree and had no interest at all in her clients.

She delivered a stunningly accurate series of predictions regarding her sitter's future circumstances. At the time, the predictions seemed highly unlikely to occur. Occur they did however. Fascinated, I visited the 'exception' and asked her HOW she obtained her information; did she hear voices, for example, or did she see images?

She shrugged and said she didn't really know. Her life had been like a romance-novel, and then, suddenly, it was in tatters. Out of the modelling loop, she'd been reduced to welfare, although she still socialised with some of the beautiful-set. It was at a party of beautiful people, after many glasses of wine, that someone had mentioned that they'd been to see a card-reader the previous week. The conversation turned to this topic and at some point during the evening, the ex-model, as a joke, had been asked to read someone's future from a deck of ordinary playing cards. The model disinterestedly went along with the joke and pretended to foretell future events. She 'made it all up'.

A few weeks later however, several at the party contacted her to say that what she'd foretold had actually occurred. Coincidence, everyone thought.

Then, one of the model's friends suggested she play the role of fortune teller at an upcoming event. She went along with the gag, dressed for the part. Again, her 'invented' predictions came true.

At that point, desperate for money and with two small children to support, she placed a tiny advertisement in a small local paper, offering to tell fortunes for two dollars a time.

Her reputation as being incredibly accurate soon spread. The entire time, the model had no idea WHY her 'invented' predictions were so close to the mark. But the money was handy, so she continued ... expecting at any time to be denounced as a complete fraud.

She felt the entire charade was ridiculous. After all, she'd never had any precognitive abilities and she still had NO interest at all in the paranormal, etc. In the middle of a 'reading', she was prone to leaping from her chair, piling the cards into a heap and announcing that she felt like coffee and would anyone else like one too? She wasn't the slightest bit interested in other people's lives and found the card-reading to be both boring and a chore.

She used ordinary playing cards and simply asked people to cut them a few times, after which she simply said this and that, before dashing off again for coffee. She didn't like having strangers in her home and really couldn't care less what they did with the infrmation she believed she was 'inventing'. She didn't take it seriously and didn't know why anyone else would.

All of this she freely admitted to me. She did say that she'd been approached by a representative of what must have basically been a 'fortune teller's union' and advised very strongly that she MUST not tell people anything BAD.

I asked her what she meant and she said that when she first began 'telling fortunes', she used to tell people if someone was going to die, or fall prey to a serious disease, etc. And once, she said, she'd told a wealthy middle aged woman that her husband was having an affair and would leave her, taking their joint savings with him. The ex-model cum fortune teller said she forgot all about it the moment the woman left.

A month or more later, however, the same woman had contacted her to thank her. Apparently the woman had taken the precaution of contacting her bank re: any possible large, attempted withdrawals by her husband. And as predicted, the woman had learned that her husband had planned to leave her with a woman with whom he'd been having a serious affair.

The fortune teller had also told some clients that they or someone they knew, would fall ill, or die. The fortune-tellers'-union representative apparently told her that she should NOT reveal such information to clients, but should instead suggest that they take extra care with their health, for example. Hint but do not state outright, in other words.

Some time later, I was invited to a party and discovered the ex-model cum fortune teller was also present. By this stage, her fee had risen considerably and I was informed by others that the Deputy Prime Minister (reputed to be involved with Shirley McClaine and later stationed in Washington DC) flew several hundred kilometres on regular basis to have a session with her. Most of her clients now were high profile. She was reputed to be unbelievably accurate and clients had to book weeks or months in advance.

She was still a scatter brain though and still as shallow as a puddle.

I KNOW this woman was the real McCoy. I was helping the host at a child's birthday party one day when I saw a little girl riding a tricycle up the middle of the road. The hostess and I dashed outside and rescued the little girl and brought her back to the party. The hostess begged me to say nothing about the incident to the child's mother.

An hour or more later, the child's mother arrived to collect her child. She hugged her little girl and thanked the hostess, etc. Then, as she was leaving, the mother turned to us with a laugh and said we'd never guess where she'd spent her afternoon. At a fortune-teller's !

The fortune teller had suddenly looked intently at the mother and asked her if her daughter was wearing a pink party dress and had her hair in pig-tails with blue ribbon? The mother, surprised, had replied this was correct. The fortune teller then apparently said: ' Well, she's riding a little bike down the road right now'.

The child's mother had protested and said: ' Oh no. That can't be right. She's at a birthday party and there's a big fence all around the yard. She's well looked after. No way could she be on a bike on the road. Sorry. You're wrong on that one.'

Of course when we heard this, the hostess and I looked at each other. Then, guiltily, the hostess told the child's mother that the fortune teller HAD been correct, because the little girl had somehow sneaked out of the yard and had ridden a bike down the road until being seen and brought back to the party. The hostess confessed to the child's mother that she hadn't intended to say anything about it because no harm had come from the incident.

The child's mother's face clouded at that point and she said: ' Oh no! Then the fortune teller was right! I wish she hadn't been. Because if she was right about my daughter being on the road, then she might be right about the other things she told me. She said that I'd find out I'm pregnant and as a result I'd go back to my husband. And she told me my mother was going to get sick with cancer soon and would die from it very quickly. I can't be pregnant of course. I don't want to be. I left my husband a few weeks ago and I don't want to have to go back with him. I hope the fortune teller was wrong."

I didn't see either the hostess or the child's mother for a few months. Then one day, I ran into the child's mother and asked how she was, etc. I'd forgotten all about everything she's said.

She looked run-down and depressed and told me that she and her husband were trying a reconciliation for the sake of the baby she was having. And she told me that she was very worried, because her mother, who was usually so healthy, was under the care of a medical specialist and it was suspected she might die before the baby was born.

The fortune teller had predicted the sex of the unborn child and had told the woman that her mother would die before Christmas.

I didn't see the woman for a year or two after that, and all the fortune teller's predictions had come true. It was this that led me to visit the fortune teller and to ask her how she obtained her information. I don't know how it's possible that she 'didn't know', but that's what she claimed.

It's often suggested that 'fortune tellers' obtain information via ESP from their client's minds. But that fails to explain how a fortune teller can accurately predict future events of which the client at the time is completely ignorant. And the ex-model cum fortune teller was able to do that, as I witnessed.

The 999 charlatans are unimportant. It's the one in the 1,000 who is able to pull future events out of the air who proves that the future is predetermined.

11/15/2006 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ylqxsc9s4Fg

A rather mundane interview with Jeff Gannon. Pretty weird.

11/15/2006 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Proteus said...

Fascinating as always, Jeff. And all of the comments are the icing on the cake.

I currently sway toward the view that, of the phenomena that is actually legitimate, we will it into existence. If all matter indeed exists as frequency until it is about to be observed (this was called "spooky" by Einstein) then what is to say that we are not manifesting aspects of our existence through media that detects and/or records frequency? Our hopes, thoughts, dreams, fears, world view, etc., could be projected and picked up by something material as an attempt to bring the body and mind to quiescence.

We have gone from the mystical/right-brained trolls, dragons, and faeries to the materialist UFOs, EVPs, and spooky physics. There weren't televisions or microchips or transponders in the recent past, so one would go into a trance, sip some amanita muscaria tea or commune with an oracle. I have grown to lean towards the shamanic/meditative approach because the technology used to commune with the non-material exists in my skull. And the "miracles" laid forth don't depend upon independent verification through labratory analysis for validation. Their validity rests in my tansformation and direct action to create change (conscious evolution).

"A first condition of the soul's complete emergence is a direct contact in the surface being with the spiritual Reality. Because it comes from that, the psychic element in us turns always towards whatever in phenomenal Nature seems to belong to a higher Reality and can be accepted as its sign and character."

- Aurobindo, 'The Life Divine'

Namaste, dear friends,

aaron

11/15/2006 12:57:00 PM  
Blogger hoi polloi said...

What am I looking at here?

11/15/2006 01:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Hapolati said...

Communication from another dimension: A must-see movie regarding this fascinating subject is the 1995 Argentine film written and directed by (master of magical realism) Eliseo Subiela. Title: DON'T DIE WITHOUT TELLING ME WHERE YOU'RE GOING. It's the story of Leopoldo, a film projectionist who invents a machine to record his dreams. Through a series of odd events, Leopoldo discovers that he is the reincarnation of one of the inventors of cinema, and that a woman he sees in his dreams is his eternal companion in a trip through time. They've become separated because of her reluctance to take on another body to join him in this suffering human dimension. Rather than give away the surprise ending, I will withold it...like Life does. We're all on a Magical, Mystery Tour -- despite the mites and shit -- and this marvelous film gives poetic, intuitive, and fuckin' funny insights into our long, strange trip.

11/15/2006 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Richard said...

To anony 12:01

That was probably one of the more interesting paranormal tales I've read. I've, I'm sad to say, only been exposed to the delusional/cold-reading fraud side of "fortune-telling."
Bits of it sound remarkably like Alan Moore's tale about the supposed truth of his Jack the Ripper epic From Hell. When confronted by a Ripperologist who insisted that Mr. Moore had probably solved the Ripper mystery, Mr. Moore replied, "Yes, but I made it all up."

Given the fluid nature of memory & the total unreliability of eye witness testimony & since I have no idea about what has been left out of the tale in order to make it more dramatically interesting, it doesn't really convince me of anything, but it is a good yarn.

11/15/2006 02:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Richard said...

http://www.local6.com/family/10322224/detail.html
" As authorities renew their search for missing Central Florida boy, Trenton Duckett, Local 6 News has learned that a private investigator is looking into his mother's apparent secret side business of creating and performing in amateur pornographic videos.

Nude photographs of Melinda Duckett, including one image where she is straddling a child's crib and another explicit video where the sound of a crying baby can be heard in the background surfaced in the missing boy investigation and caused concerns for detectives, the report said.

Before Duckett's suicide, authorities told Local 6 News that they thoroughly looked into her alleged involvement in the adult entertainment industry to see if the 21-year-old made any enemies or possibly had given her son away to someone she met while making the movies. However, there was no connection found between the adult videos and the boy's disappearance."

Porn porn & more porn. I've been watching the Dateline pedophile stings for the last few weeks & the thing that strikes me most about the army of pathetic shlubs that keep showing up to prong a 13 year old is that the majority of these guys probably wouldn't be involved in this creepy shit without the existence of the internet. Before the internet you had to make a conscious effort to go out into the world & face the embarrassment of actually buying this porn crap that feeds their fantasies from another human being. Now it's just beamed into our homes & can be accessed with little or no effort. By the same token, underage kids can also be contacted without any actual effort. I am not trying to excuse their behavior just understand how this is increasing. If you haven't seen the Datelines, there are a hell of a lot of guys with this weird little fantasy.

11/15/2006 02:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Richard said...

Shrubster, if you're still reading this, I've made a feeble attempt to post & post & post in honor of a fallen comrade, but alas I've run out of steam. I just lack your talent for the sarcastic barb & the bile raising comment. Sorry pal.

Adios Shrub.

This place just isn't as much fun without you.

11/15/2006 03:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes it is.

11/15/2006 04:55:00 PM  
Anonymous starroute said...

Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite 'em,
And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so on ad infinitum.
And the great fleas themselves, in turn, have greater fleas to go on,
While these again have greater still, and greater still, and so on.


As far as people who jinx electromagnetic equipment, that I think is undeniable. I recall reading that Enrico Fermi's colleagues would try to keep him out of their laboratories because equipment would start breaking and exploding when he walked through.

And I think I've posted here before that my grandmother would regularly disrupt every tv set she ever owned. (And she owned a lot, because they kept failing.) After she died, we got her final tv, and for about 6 months, the picture would jitter any time someone walked into the room. After that, it seemed to settle down and got normal.

My grandmother also had a reputation for occasional psychic flashes, though not in any way that I ever observed myself.

11/15/2006 06:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone's been watching 'Videodrome'.
'Long live the New Flesh!'

11/15/2006 06:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff writes:

"Alleged entities advising the use of electronic devices as gateways; the electromagnetic effects of close encounters; Electrical Sensitivity Syndrome in both UFO contactees and Near Death survivors: what frame of reference do we have to account for all this, and can it be possible to find one that does from our mundane perspective?"

Well if ghosts and parallel dimensions and such things have 'electromagnetic bleed through':

- bound to hit some frequencies of TVs and other video equipment occassionally (without being seen elsewhere)

- bound to be physically seen occassionally

- bound to expose film (electronic/light frequency sensitive)

- bound to be recorded voices (electronic voice phenomena)

- and perhaps there are certain physical areas that are more tangled up in hyperspace that "we can't see about", perhaps in regular predictable geo-coordinates, as geomantic areas of the world more than others.

- and it might be annoying or painful for those crossing space/time wires to do so, sort of like attempting to walk through a reverberating speaker and getting jarred back and forth. Your body is just in the wrong environment to be comfortable.

I still have a vivid memory of reading about a Puritan-era 1600s town completely abandoned due to paranormal activity over 300 years ago.

Something terrible happened back then and everyone who moved there all started to go mad or something, or kill themselves.

Still to this day, when people attempt to visit the location, electric cameras break there, or turn up blank despite people verifying footage while there, dogs completely freak out and attack things 'not there', people who visit just for a day go mad (i.e., minds electronic...). It was one of the most memorable stories about a supra-normal ("haunted") whole town I have ever read, though, duh, obviously not memorable enough...since I failed to save the file somewhere...

What's that places name? I attempted to search the net for it though unable to find it. If anyone knows please help me jog my memory--though it's unimportant: since there are plenty of documented instances of particular houses and places with more supra-normal activity.

There's little doubt in my mind that we are tuned to only a handful of frequencies of information all around us all the time.

Human eyes only register certain frequencies. So do human ears. However, human brains seem to have a 'main line' connection to elsewhere (all that DMT/DNA stuff).

Dogs and cats seem to have a higher frequency threshold and that is why sound that we can't hear annoys them. There are some cases I've read where dogs with their eyes start to 'track' and growl in fear something moving around a room that no one else could see. Alas, they don't talk much about what they see. :-)

The dog thing is pretty common enough in many stories.

It would be interesting to have some sort of technological goggles that you could fit over your eyes that would 'translate' down into human accessible visible frequencies everything else that is right in front of you. Then, the main question is, would you be brave enough to wear it?

Some ghosts are prickly cold. though unseen.
Some ghosts are hot. though unseen.

In other words there's some type of infrared frequencies going on, in some of them as well. And inverse infrared? What would make something cold? It's the ghost heat pump! Hook a ghost up to your refrigerator, run it for free!

What would make something cold though?

I've never seen anyone test for supra-normal activity with a sensitive digital thermometer, or better, a whole net of hundreds of data points throughout a house every one or two feet. That might be an interesting test for ghosts if you have money to burn on the test of course and don't expect all ghost activity to show up using the same measuring tools.

Some ghosts touch you.
Some ghosts move things or throw things.

All this topic of the limited senses of the human body gets back to the DMT phenomena, the sudden "channel switch" of frequencies[?] that is just as real as life occurring all around them, though they don't know where they are when they are suddenly being medically examined or prodded during their DMT trip.



The ditsy fortune teller and her union warning her to only give out mostly 'happy' fortunes.

Fortune tellers unionized was perhaps the surreal bit... What are they going to do, strike and not tell fortunes? Tell 'wherever' they aren't going to be mediums anymore? Who would you picket when you really don't know who is giving you the power? The protest strategies of a fortune tellers union for better psychic conditions is something that requires a bit more thought--and perhaps a screenplay....

Anyone ever seen a large sample of fortune tellers who are queried on 'how they do it?'

It might be useful if no one has ever done that.

I was going to say wryly that the fortune teller might indeed have made everything up--and then THAT is why it did happen. However, at least with that little girl in a pink dress, it shows that she has some sort of present day prescience (similar to the CIA's remote viewer) as well as future prescience which is very interesting. I wonder why I never see more simultaneous claims of remote viewing the same present, along with future telling prescience associated together in people's stories I read. The 'ditz' above seems to indicate that she has both capacities, though may be clueless mentally enough not to really care about it.

Another interesting point on time, space, ghosts, and prescience.

Some ghost phenomena act like they are stuck in their own time unawares, repeating something over and over at least to our view somehow, though obviously they don't see it that way. It's like they are caught in a time torus with a little window on it.

Others however seem to be spatially displaced from where they 'should be' (like ending up in their own house), in the same time present line as everyone else with them in the house who bought it later for instance, and capable of interacting in the present with them.

Is is all a matter of when, where or how you jump on the death carousel? Some get the 'painted ponies that go up and down'--and others are clinging to the outside pole because all the space is taken where they jumped on. Some seem comfortable with their position. Some seem to hate it. Violent deaths have always been associated with 'clearer reception' across hyperspace bleeding through into (from what I presume is wherever they are) here from there.



And another thing about animals frequencies being 'wider' than ours.

What about all those dogs who can accurately predict the moment that their master turns to come home from shopping? That's a form of dog remote viewing.

All I could venture I guess is that our sensory body is much larger in some people than others. Animals seem to be larger more often than ours. Though has anyone given a dog DMT?



It may be rare, though perhaps everyone has a capacity that is never acknowledged because everyone doesn't communicate using it around them. It's like having the one and only telephone in the world. Or being able to speak French around a bunch of Tagalog natives. You wouldn't know what to do with it, until one day you hear it ringing or meet another French speaker. Everyone else will think you're crazy to answer it much less talk to that phone, or to talk to a complete stranger with such animation simply because they started speaking a language you thought was only your own....



Questions, observations, rambling, few answers...though there is indeed something there phenomenologically.

It's a case of theories of physics which haven't caught up with reality once more. As they say:

"In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king."

11/15/2006 08:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Infrared Toys R Us Ghost:

Interesting story and data:

Episode title/number for "That's Incredible" featuring this story, unknown. It was apparently also featured on "Ripley's Believe It Or Not" television program in the 80s as well as "Unsolved Mysteries".

...

The creepy manifestations of this apparently restless spirit have brought psychics, mediums and paranormal rubber-neckers from far and wide, and the manager says its quite common for teenagers to inquire about the opportunity to sleep over in the building in hopes of encountering the ghost. But perhaps the most yielding encounter with the ghost of Yonny Johnson took place in 1984 when popular psychic Sylvia Brown, along with photographic experts from Alpha Labs, were brought in to hold a seance which was featured on the television program "That's Incredible," hosted by John Davidson, Cathy Lee Crosby and Fran Tarkenton.

Though the program did generally sport the absurd and fantastic, sometimes to exploitative levels, and quite a number of charlatans had hoodwinked [3] the "That's Incredible" staff with paranormal hoodoo in the past, this particular episode had something entirely different to offer.

Photographic proof.

Brown originally had anticipated the ghost of Martin Murphy, but soon realized it was not Murphy at all haunting the isles. Sylvia seemingly had little difficulty communicating with Johnson and seemed to tap into his history with remarkable accuracy. She claims to be assisted by a spirit named 'Francine' who guides her contact with those on the 'other side.'

Like a walking Quiji board, Brown gets both clear and foggy messages from the disembodied spirits she believes are trapped in a confused state between two worlds, each for varied reasons; some of the dead, she believes, cannot or will not cross over into the next world, but remain here in state of disquieted limbo - a world where everything seems to have come to an eerie stand still. We, the living, become the ghosts to the tormented souls trapped in the 'neither' world, and our time and its artifacts are the stuff of strange distraction, peculiar phantoms as seen by the spirits there, much that way we might view the elements of life from their time, now entirely foreign to us so many hundred years hence. Like many mediums, Sylvia's remedy is to assist the lost soul in 'crossing over' and finding peace and their spiritual destiny.

This night, the seance would be conducted along one of the most "active" of the isles in the toy store, with a gathering of employees and a camera crew to record the event.

This particular isle was often said to smell like fresh flowers for no apparent reason. Most of the lights in the store were turned off except for a few in the back of the store at the end of the isle where they all gathered. Almost immediately Sylvia began to speak openly with Johnson, motioning that she could see him in the isle, though no one else could hear or see anything. He even jokingly commented, she said, that she had better move because she would get her feet wet where she was, and it was later revealed that on that spot was the site of a well during the time of Yonny Johnson and the Murphy plantation. The spirit told her that he was waiting for 'Beth' (Elizabeth?) and seemed considerably heartbroken and confused about his state.

She talked casually to Johnson for several minutes about his life and circumstances, and then a shocking revelation took place which may represent the best photographic evidence of a 'ghost' ever impressed on film. Side by side 35mm cameras took pictures of the group gathered along the sides of the isle, using both high speed film and infra-red -- and though absolutely nothing appeared in the standard 35mm shots, the infra-red camera shooting the same isle at the same time showed a distinct and substantial image of a man standing in the isle, precisely where Sylvia said he was. Sometimes he would pace back and forth, or lean against a non-existent wall, or even appear to ascend steps that do not exist in our time-frame. But he was definitely captured on the special film with a simultaneous record of nothing at all on the standard film.

....

http://www.rense.com/general68/ghostsrus.htm

Another interesting point about that picture: the psychic is glowing in the infrared picture; while the ghost is a black hole in the infrared picture:

"This infra-red photo clearly shows the employees attending the seance sitting along the sides of the isle, with a few near [psychic] Sylvia (the [only] bright one, foreground right)..."

Does that indicate a 'cold' ghost?

And we've talked about the bees before though here's another example of this common sonorous phenomena of supra-normal information bleeding through:

"Some of the employees reported hearing or feeling a buzzing sound or sensation whenever Sylvia was listening to Johnson reply to her questions."

"...the photographic evidence is so startling, one would be hard pressed to explain it away, especially since there was a control element of a second, standard 35mm camera taking simultaneous photos. This isn't some wispy, smoke-strand apparition, or an 'orb,' or a transparent shadowy shape... this is the image of man, fully clothed and moving about -- completely invisible to the naked eye, but strikingly visible to the infra-red eye which detects a unique spectrum of light."

11/15/2006 08:34:00 PM  
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11/15/2006 08:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Hapolati said...

Starroute: Methinks you have paranormal powers. I was preparing to quote the "little fleas" poem in a post when, yikes, your posting of the poem appeared! As I excitedly began to read the rest of your post -- about some people, including your relatives, who could jinx electromagnetic devices -- my screen suddenly froze. Some no-body somewhere is having a laugh.

11/15/2006 10:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Freaked Out said...

Thanks, iridescent cuddlefish, for adding to my library... it started me on an extended search and will generate another piece of an e-book and a blog entry... Yes, I've had seven or eight "peak experiences", most of them relatively minor, and two of them exceptionally powerful.

11/15/2006 10:48:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Anonymous 8:06 writes:

What about all those dogs who can accurately predict the moment that their master turns to come home from shopping? That's a form of dog remote viewing...It's a case of theories of physics which haven't caught up with reality once more.

Well, some theorists have been trying to catch up with human experience, despite being ostracized for the attempt; a notable example is Rupert Sheldrake, who wrote the following synopsis of work he has done in this vein. In Sheldrake's theory we find a possible explanation not just for dogs knowing when their owners are returning, but for much of the spooky human tricks we're talking about as well. Although the theory does "belong" to Sheldrake, he was very heavily influenced by David Bohm's implicate/explicate worlds idea.

It's a bit of a data dump, but I couldn't find an easy way to chop it down without losing its coherence, as it's already distilled from a much greater body of work. If its volume is offensive, please scroll on down (but it really is quite interesting and does provide some "answers" to the questions raised here, I promise...aside from which, it also includes some experiments you can perform on yourself right now, from the comfort of wherever you happen to be.)

Morphic Fields and Morphic Resonance

In the hypothesis of formative causation, discussed in detail in my books A New Science of Life and The Presence of the Past, I propose that memory is inherent in nature. Most of the so-called laws of nature are more like habits.

My interest in evolutionary habits arose when I was engaged in research in developmental biology, and was reinforced by reading Charles Darwin, for whom the habits of organisms were of central importance. As Francis Huxley has pointed out, Darwin’s most famous book could more appropriately have been entitled The Origin of Habits.

Morphic Fields in Biology

Over the course of 15 years of research on plant development, I came to the conclusion that for understanding the development of plants, their morphogenesis, genes and gene products are not enough. Morphogenesis also depends on organizing fields. The same arguments apply to the development of animals. Since the 1920s many developmental biologists have proposed that biological organization depends on fields, variously called biological fields, or developmental fields, or positional fields, or morphogenetic fields.

All cells come from other cells, and all cells inherit fields of organization. Genes are part of this organization. They play an essential role. But they do not explain the organization itself. Why not?

Thanks to molecular biology, we know what genes do. They enable organisms to make particular proteins. Other genes are involved in the control of protein synthesis. Identifiable genes are switched on and particular proteins made at the beginning of new developmental processes. Some of these developmental switch genes, like the Hox genes in fruit flies, worms, fish and mammals, are very similar. In evolutionary terms, they are highly conserved. But switching on genes such as these cannot in itself determine form, otherwise fruit flies would not look different from us.

Many organisms live as free cells, including many yeasts, bacteria and amoebas. Some form complex mineral skeletons, as in diatoms and radiolarians, spectacularly pictured in the nineteenth century by Ernst Haeckel. Just making the right proteins at the right times cannot explain the complex skeletons of such structures without many other forces coming into play, including the organizing activity of cell membranes and microtubules.

Most developmental biologists accept the need for a holistic or integrative conception of living organization. Otherwise biology will go on floundering, even drowning, in oceans of data, as yet more genomes are sequenced, genes are cloned and proteins are characterized.

I suggest that morphogenetic fields work by imposing patterns on otherwise random or indeterminate patterns of activity. For example they cause microtubules to crystallize in one part of the cell rather than another, even though the subunits from which they are made are present throughout the cell.

Morphogenetic fields are not fixed forever, but evolve. The fields of Afghan hounds and poodles have become different from those of their common ancestors, wolves. How are these fields inherited? I propose that that they are transmitted from past members of the species through a kind of non-local resonance, called morphic resonance.

The fields organizing the activity of the nervous system are likewise inherited through morphic resonance, conveying a collective, instinctive memory. Each individual both draws upon and contributes to the collective memory of the species. This means that new patterns of behaviour can spread more rapidly than would otherwise be possible. For example, if rats of a particular breed learn a new trick in Harvard, then rats of that breed should be able to learn the same trick faster all over the world, say in Edinburgh and Melbourne. There is already evidence from laboratory experiments (discussed in A New Science of Life) that this actually happens.

The resonance of a brain with its own past states also helps to explain the memories of individual animals and humans. There is no need for all memories to be “stored” inside the brain.

Social groups are likewise organized by fields, as in schools of fish and flocks of birds. Human societies have memories that are transmitted through the culture of the group, and are most explicitly communicated through the ritual re-enactment of a founding story or myth, as in the Jewish Passover celebration, the Christian Holy Communion and the American thanksgiving dinner, through which the past become present through a kind of resonance with those who have performed the same rituals before.

The Memory of Nature

From the point of view of the hypothesis of morphic resonance, there is no need to suppose that all the laws of nature sprang into being fully formed at the moment of the Big Bang, like a kind of cosmic Napoleonic code, or that they exist in a metaphysical realm beyond time and space.

Before the general acceptance of the Big Bang theory in the 1960s, eternal laws seemed to make sense. The universe itself was thought to be eternal and evolution was confined to the biological realm. But we now live in a radically evolutionary universe.

If we want to stick to the idea of natural laws, we could say that as nature itself evolves, the laws of nature also evolve, just as human laws evolve over time. But then how would natural laws be remembered or enforced? The law metaphor is embarrassingly anthropomorphic. Habits are less human-centered. Many kinds of organisms have habits, but only humans have laws. The habits of nature depend on non-local similarity reinforcement. Through morphic resonance, the patterns of activity in self-organizing systems are influenced by similar patterns in the past, giving each species and each kind of self-organizing system a collective memory.

I believe that the natural selection of habits will play an essential part in any integrated theory of evolution, including not just biological evolution, but also physical, chemical, cosmic, social, mental and cultural evolution.

Habits are subject to natural selection; and the more often they are repeated, the more probable they become, other things being equal. Animals inherit the successful habits of their species as instincts. We inherit bodily, emotional, mental and cultural habits, including the habits of our languages.

Fields of the Mind

Morphic fields underlie our mental activity and our perceptions, and lead to a new theory of vision, as discussed in The Sense of Being Stared At. The existence of these fields is experimentally testable through the sense of being stared at itself. You can take part in a staring experiment yourself through this website. Click here
The morphic fields of social groups connect together members of the group even when they are many miles apart, and provide channels of communication through which organisms can stay in touch at a distance. They help provide an explanation for telepathy. There is now good evidence that many species of animals are telepathic, and telepathy seems to be a normal means of animal communication, as discussed in my book Dogs That Know When Their Owners Are Coming Home. Telepathy is normal not paranormal, natural not supernatural, and is also common between people, especially people who know each other well.

In the modern world, the commonest kind of human telepathy occurs in connection with telephone calls. More than 80% of the population say they have though of someone for no apparent reason, who then called; or that they have known who was calling before picking up the phone in a way that seems telepathic. Controlled experiments on telephone telepathy have given repeatable positive results that are highly significant statistically, as summarized in The Sense of Being Stared At, and described in detailed technical papers. Telepathy also occurs in connection with emails, and anyone who is interested can now test how telepathic they are in the online telepathy test. Click here

The morphic fields of mental activity are not confined to the insides of our heads. They extend far beyond our brain though intention and attention. We are already familiar with the idea of fields extending beyond the material objects in which they are rooted: for example magnetic fields extend beyond the surfaces of magnets; the earth’s gravitational field extends far beyond the surface of the earth, keeping the moon in its orbit; and the fields of a cell phone stretch out far beyond the phone itself. Likewise the fields of our minds extend far beyond our brains.

11/15/2006 11:20:00 PM  
Blogger sfmike said...

About 15 years ago, I became one of those people who can make fluorescent light bulbs in a classroom start crackling and exploding into darkness. And set off every schizophrenic within a certain distance in San Francisco, which is a huge number of people.

In the interim, I've learned to tone it down, and not scare the horses/schizos on the street, and I have absolutely no explanation of the phenomenon other than the idea of witchcraft, but it's real. By the way, with my own electronic devices, I'm extremely gentle and they respond in kind.

11/15/2006 11:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Toostoned said...

Buenas Nachos y'all!
I was warned that this board was and acquired taste, but Jeff's posts (and a considerable component of the comments) I found delectable at first read.
First post here (as if that wasn't immediately obvious)...
I spend most of my time in cyber-space posting and reading "conventional" poli blogs (lefty, of course...I fight the Sith, despite the sysaphaen nature of that quest...but just so you gentle folks understand my truly humanist and LIBERAL perspective, I gotta say fuck dailykossucks and the Big Box Blogs, they're just a bunch of wannabe operatives,some CIA rejects in that mix, and their dense tools)
In case you haven't noticed I'm kinda long winded and meandering in my writing (and thinking) so I beg your pardons as I obliquely lunge about searching for my point (other than the four on my head, heh!)

In real life I've come to understand I am a "sensitive" but rather than regale the assembled with some un-verifiable yarn about any of my extra-ordinary experiences I feel the need to communicate the incredible amount of doubt I've felt even when faced, point blank, with the "other."

My experiences consistently demonstrate that when the unknownable stares you straight at you, and the hair on the back of your neck stands on end, and the "informer" in your head clearly tells you "ah, yes that is the nephilim/greys/whatever particular flavor of paranormal phenomena is present," the majority of your conciousness still rejects what is happening.

After the little red light zooms off, or the strangelyanimated shadow fades away, or the "presence" suddenly leaves the doubt only grows.

I am convinced as long as we remain incarnate that our limited eyelash mite like perspective is in-escapable, and a schitzoid understanding is the best we can do; 4D time space and hyperspace only connect tangentially and to try and integrate the two is a fools errand.

In moments of clarity (Toad Venom rocks!...but then again so does breathing)I've seen how all phenomena is interpenetrated and interdependant thru both sides of physical/non-physical divide but still remains somehow separate.

Despite the doubt and division all concious humans must strive to comprehend not only the differing realms but joust after the windmills and vainly attempt to marry the two.

Of course I could just be delusional...

11/16/2006 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IC writes/quotes:

"There is now good evidence that many species of animals are telepathic, and telepathy seems to be a normal means of animal communication, as discussed in my [Sheldrake's] book Dogs That Know When Their Owners Are Coming Home. Telepathy is normal not paranormal, natural not supernatural, and is also common between people, especially people who know each other well."

Thanks for that Sheldrake book. Ha. I had no idea that existed.

"All cells come from other cells, and all cells inherit fields of organization. Genes are part of this organization. They play an essential role. But they do not explain the organization itself. Why not?.... switching on genes such as these cannot in itself determine form,...I [Sheldrake] suggest that morphogenetic fields work by imposing patterns on otherwise random or indeterminate patterns of activity. For example they cause microtubules to crystallize in one part of the cell rather than another, even though the subunits from which they are made are present throughout the cell.


His quote doesn't offer a mechanism.

Does Sheldrake offer any kind of evidence instead of only what you seem to have put above which was mostly a string of analogies and ideas?



"Before the general acceptance of the Big Bang theory in the 1960s,..."

Well, I don't accept it. Physics has gotten sort of reliant on inventing things they can't see, like "dark matter" that gotta be there, man, otherwise we can't balance our equations!"

Well, the proper route is changing your equations still. Unless you like Ptolemaic forms of physics (solving all the difficulties of assuming all planetary motion is spheres (by simply putting lots of other mini-spheres in its motion. Kepler of course said drop all that, use elipses, and it worked a bit better...

Dark matter is just a sort of Ptolemaic "lets add more mini-spheres" sort of thing to save the original theory.

Big Science, with its useless Big Money, has become as corrupt as the Roman Catholic Church ever was, perhaps even more since they don't even consider themselves a religion, they can be more missionary like in their religious zeal seamlessly.

There's plenty on the web disagreeing with the redshit, excuse me, must be by poor typing, redshifted Big Bang as a form of evidence of this.

And something interesting I came across at the Sheldrake website you linked to:

The "Sense of Being Stared At" Experiments In Schools
by Rupert Sheldrake
Journal of the Society for Psychical Research 62: 311-323 (1998)

Abstract. Simple experiments to test whether or not people can tell when they are being stared at from behind were carried out in schools in Germany and the United States. Lookers and subjects worked in pairs, with the lookers sitting behind the subjects. In a series of trials the lookers either looked or did not look at the subjects in a random sequence determined by tossing a coin. In each trial, the subjects guessed whether or not they were being looked at. The results show an overall positive effect, with 56.9% correct guesses as opposed to 50% expected by chance. 97 of the subjects were right more often than they were wrong, and 42 were wrong more often than they were right. This positive effect was highly significant statistically (p=3x10-6). The data showed a consistent pattern. There was a positive effect when the subjects were being looked at, while the guesses were not significantly different from chance when they were not being looked at. In one school in Germany where sensitive subjects were tested repeatedly, 71.2% of the guesses were correct, and two students were right about 90% of the time. Possible sources of artefacts in these experiments are examined, and the implications of the results are discussed."


So it's there. Weakly distributed. Two different countries (culture slightly controlled). Though interestingly in a handful of people, they were right around 90% of the time in these simple things.

"I suggest that morphogenetic fields work by imposing patterns on otherwise random or indeterminate patterns of activity...."

NOW. if you could show a way that DNA could vibrate at a certain frequency or cause such molecular level vibrations, you'd have a mechanism. Wait a minute. If DNA is biophoton based we have some sort of DNA frequency call sign already shown empirically (light/wave).

The frequencies would have to be [1] very high frequency perhaps to 'bubble up' cell formation networks (being theoretical "microscopic level field of morphogenics" we're talking about, with DNA so small perhaps it's just easier).. And at least from these cymatics experiments [2] they would have to have five separate frequencies tuned to each other to get some truly interesting effects.

It might look like this below as a mechanism.

This might blow you away. Just think if you could throw your voice in certain particular frequencies, you could actually animate things like this. If DNA's light animates cell structure on such small scales, I don't know though...very small microscopic effects cells are though...hmm...

Cymatics part 4 Soundscapes - Experiments in animation with sound & vibration
part 4 (28mins) Shows further animation of liquids & matter.
cymatics - 28 min - Aug 3, 2006
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7253148167375317006&q=cymatics

All four parts are great. Sound: the only medicine for cell DNA/activation/construction...

cheap. free. annoyingly scientific.


AND FOR 'sfmike'

sfmike said...

About 15 years ago, I became one of those people who can make fluorescent light bulbs in a classroom start crackling and exploding into darkness. And set off every schizophrenic within a certain distance in San Francisco, which is a huge number of people."


Elaborate? Particularly when you say "About 15 years ago, I BECAME..." And what do you 'do' to set off schitzos? I've read some interesting interpertations of schitzophrenia where they thought that schitzos are unfortunately or fortunately more attuned to something that they can't really differentiate from regular 3D space...

11/16/2006 01:10:00 AM  
Blogger fenwoofer said...

I've got a story.

A few years ago I was working on a computer art project. I was also practicing a certain kind of meditation-technique. I did the technique alot and I was in a state of modified consciousness all the time- intensely focussed.

One day I was working on Photoshop. I was messing with some pixels, I was focussing on the pixels very intensely- squinting and focussing on just a couple in the middle of the screen- focussing- focussing- suddenly BWOOOOOOOOP! The screen defocussed at the point where I was staring- a big blur of defocussedness had suddenly formed right where I was looking, a big screen-occluding blur right in the middle.

I returned it to the company. They sorta fixed it (about 80% corrected). I later sold my whole system to the next-door neighbor. Talking about it to a friend of mine later, he said it sounds like the shadow-mask had warped.

So there you go. I've got magic powers.
(oh ya, it didn't actually make a "BWOOOP" sound, but the effect seemed like that).

11/16/2006 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I could make a previous Firefox browser version crash rather readily to where it really annoyed me, if I really was concentrating on the screen. The computer about a yard away was what was crashing though of course.

Firefox 2.0 seems more stable for psychic phenomena. :-) Perhaps they should be congratulated. Perhaps people kept complaining about it.

The Sheldrake data is has a higher sample though, don't just trust me...

11/16/2006 01:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ahh, now this is what any proper CSICOP scientist would call anecdotal evedence...its all in your heads...dammit, its swamp gas...mass hallucinations all around...but whos to be believed--your goddamned lying eyes or the scientific establishment (a dirty word, i understand, around these here parts). Magic doesn't exist...with a "k" or without it...bow down to the scientific gods of "research"," controlled studies", and "double-blind."
Without them we never would have cured polio (or is that doubted here as well?).

But thats just the old models...light of science vs. darkness of superstition...morphegenic fields, Gia theories, string theories (i dare you to prove m-theory is not a magical theory), etc---all updated models trying to fit our actual experiences with "scientific fact".

Truth be told, our personal experiences are vastly more important than "accepted scientific research." We have to come to the understanding that science is nothing more than another bit of knowledge (a very good bit) we can use to make our own decisions. It doesn't define truth anymore than sesame street does.

And to end this meandering post, we can't "prove" the "supernatural" because we've got old worn-out models of thought that prevent that from happening. I promise you a monk from the middle ages truly saw the blood of christ in the goblet. His models don't really apply anymore, so all we see is wine. The new ones will have to incoporate the "supernatural," and once they do we will all "truly see."

your friendly neighborhood disinfo agent

11/16/2006 03:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Silverfox said...

You'll have to pardon me, but I'm not entirely sure how we differ so greatly on this forum from all those poor little beggars who can never eat their way through all those crusty layers of dead and decaying matter nearly half as fast as they're being produced...hmmm? LOL

It may be impossible for us to digest the fact that each of us launches two or three billion dead skin cells into the world each and every day but it certainly isn't for our microscopic little friends.

It very much appears to me that they do in fact know more than just a "little something" about us. About twenty-five quadrillion "little somethings" to be exact over the course of our lifetimes for each of us.

In fact they've completely digested everything we are many times over just for good measure before we're finally done with them and they with us.

We are quite undisputedly the only food for their thoughts if they have any thoughts about their food, not that I suspect they have any great need for them.

Unlike us, however, they have no need to know what part they play beause they very much "are" the part they play...hmmm? LOL

In a sense it should be quite flattering to know that there are such noble little creatures who so tastefully appreciate and relish our more mundane biological processes with such unwavering enthusiasm even if we ourselves don't...hmmm?

Bless their poor hungry little souls, never to know the "true meat" of our matter, but thankfully enough, still undeterred in keeping us neat and tidy as they chow down on us to try and find some larger truth of what we are or might be.

Of course it's all a matter of perspective but we are remiss whenever we overlook such small wonders or marvels within the larger one that forms the context for us and them all...hmmm?

The little matter of information technology impacting our consciousness quite subconsciously as we work on it might also benefit from a similar kind of slightly altered perspective or deeper look to try and appreciate what seems to be taking place.

Our own artificial landscape of "images" and "idea creation" through technology must ultimately lead to some understanding of how many of the same principles must apply in the inner workings of reality itself...the unintended consequences, if you will, of intiating or instigating certain processes that mimic or resonate with some of their conterparts both within and without.

Our distraction and detachment owing the multitude of smaller tasks as opposed to what we intend to apply them for, particularly on these kinds projects where we are trying to create something that itself will enable the creation of virtually unlimited other visual creations or forms of expression to take place within it's bounds ought not to be overlooked.

The very ideas and concepts we grapple with simply in order to be able to translate those other ideas and concepts into visual projections or representaions and the energies we apply to them both mentally and physically might easily tap into or spontaneously trigger some sympathetic reaction from the larger and dare I say "disembodied" backgound of reality itself.

On the whole it would seem that we should be far more surprised if it didn't.

11/16/2006 05:57:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

silverfox said;

"Our distraction and detachment owing the multitude of smaller tasks as opposed to what we intend to apply them for."

We all dream of changing the world. Yet the unconscious connection to field structures ensures that human habit is seen as human nature. Hard to change something that we are unwilling to recognize.

As we integrate the notion of field structures into a conscious model we may find radically new abilities that take advantage of natural interplay between the implicate/explicate orders.

Its not supernatural

Peace

11/16/2006 06:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous One,"there's no teacher that can teach anything new.He can just help us to understand the things we always knew." -Odyssey of The Mind,Enigma 3,check this album out.Something is very strong this morning around this blog,I've had three synchronics events with other commenters,are we starting to connect? I say,"fuck science"let's go back to magick its much easyer to belive,later.

11/16/2006 07:05:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

anon 7;05


Sorry to throw water, but we only 'know' things in terms of the questions we ask. My pretence holds, that is how the implicate/explicate orders interact.

11/16/2006 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Richard, no one is taking the bait.

11/16/2006 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Oarwell said...

IC, nice reference material up there. This got me thinking:

"More than 80% of the population say they have though of someone for no apparent reason, who then called; or that they have known who was calling before picking up the phone in a way that seems telepathic."

I used to have that happen all the time, but, on reflection, it's never happened with a cell phone. Each call comes as a surprise, and I can never predict who is calling.

Anyone else notice this apparent discrepancy?

Wonderful thread, ya'll.

11/16/2006 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"In a sense it should be quite flattering to know that there are such noble little creatures who so tastefully appreciate and relish our more mundane biological processes with such unwavering enthusiasm even if we ourselves don't...hmmm?"

Yeah! Actually, Jeff, I think that last picture of the mite is darn cute. It would be the perfect vacuum cleaner as well since you never have to empty the bag.

11/16/2006 11:42:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Yeah, the mechanism whereby all this stuff works...well, I think there are several possibilities, none of which are yet sanctioned by the official story of conventional, corporate science. You don't have to be "anti-science" to recognize the role that money & politics plays in research (grant writing, proposals, and "peer evaluation"), education (tenure prostitution, strangulation by committee), and publication (textbooks at all levels & subject areas are scantily-concealed codices of propaganda & convention).

I've often wondered how Ray Kurzweil's technological singularity is impacted by the suppression of ideas that seems to be the main function of the scientific orthodoxy--the predicted rate of change is, inexplicably, no longer exponential. My own experience has taught me that the suppression of ideas and technologies is not a wild delusion of the conspiracy-minded but a very real phenomenon. When I was still working, before my body conspired against me, I saw firsthand how this process works.

A few years back, I designed a process for manufacturing a crucial component for G.E.'s turbine systems, a relatively minor "breakthrough" which nonetheless was very important for G.E., since the old method caused constant breakdowns and huge material and labor costs. When I attempted to apply for a patent for the new process, the lawyers swooped down, transferred the patent rights from me to the company for which I worked, and then from that company to the vast, many-stomached behemoth that is G.E.. It was worth $8 billion a year as a start up, and no one outside the structure of G.E. ever saw a penny of it.

The real weirdness of this experience was that the innovation they stole was just the first experiment. A few weeks later I had refined the process to the point where the turbine component would last many years, instead of months, in addition to which the manufacturing process became so efficient that labor & material costs were reduced by 90%, all of which resulted in a huge reduction in the environmental impact of the whole process. When I presented the final version of the updated process to the plant manager, I was not exactly expecting the Spanish Inquisition, but Cardinal Fang was waiting in the wings. I was told to destroy all the files for the new version because the cost/benefit analysis showed that the process was now too efficient. I responded with an intelligent "Huh?" and the slick speakers explained that such levels of innovation would cause more harm than good--job lay-offs, restructured contracts, etc--and was I a team player or not? (This last with the most menacing, toothsome smile I have ever encountered.)

So, G.E. took the minor breakthrough (and all patent rights), squashed the major innovation, and this is how business is done. This is just a small example of how the game works. I have a very old friend who worked as an engineer in Boeing's Sound Abatement Project, where they developed an anti-noise projection system that countered the deafening roar of the rivet guns which used to limit the typical worker's career be inducing deafness within 10-12 years (a success which was "allowed"), and he tells a similar story of suppression. Apparently, the out-of-the-box thinkers were brainstorming around a table one day when someone came up with an idea for reducing airplane noise by 25-50% while increasing fuel efficiency by 2/3rds. After the original meeting notes were submitted, the panel was reconvened and it was explained that this idea was "uncomfortably close" to security-clearance projects already underway. All notes were destroyed, all participants were enjoined to become comfortably dumb. (As an interesting side-note, CurrentTV is running a short clip on a new and yet strangely familiar Silent Aircraft design that has somehow slipped past the censors--I wonder who broke the silence?)

You don't have to take my anecdotes for the final proof of the grand conspiracy afoot, however. In his THE-FOUNDATION-IS-THE-FRONTIER SERIES, Bibhas De, renegade scientist/would-be whistle-blower explains how the scientific orthodoxy controls and suppresses innovation:

All fields of science must necessarily rely on expertise of individuals or groups of individuals to determine how scientific truth will be gradually established and accepted into the realm of textbooks. This has been how it has worked all along, and with irrefutable good reasons. Imagine subjecting yourself to a medical procedure that has not been endorsed by experts. But there has come a time in our civilization when even this basic value system can be exploited by interest groups. Unbeknownst to you, a good custom may be used to corrupt the world. In many fields of science today (Physics, Astrophysics, Cosmology, Environmental Sciences, Anthropology….), a given theory may be widely accepted and may even have received experimental/observational support – and may yet be wrong, or not entirely true. Yet a collective force of authority may be brought to bear upon it – causing it to be entered into the textbooks as the truth. Subsequently, all alternative ideas may be rejected – based on this particular “slot” having already been filled. Therefore, in this day and age, the phrase that the scientific establishment “has endorsed it” or “has not endorsed it” should be taken with 1 TBSP of kosher salt. When you see big-time physicists posturing big-time on the world stage, keep these thoughts in mind.

I am not rephrasing the common adage "Question authority". Rather, I am saying: "Question what the authority is up to."


Bibhas De is a very dangerous man to those authorities--check out his website before it comes down if you want to see how this works from the inside. De quotes Chomsky in explaining the psychology of the scientist/whores:

Moral cowardice and intellectual corruption are the natural concomitants of unchallenged privilege.

Another source which places this suppression in a wider context is The Hidden New Energy Debate: Will We Want to Use It, Abuse It, Not Use it or Continue to Deny It?, by Brian O’Leary, Ph.D.:

In a world gone mad with mendacious domination and greed, how can we as a species possibly get a grip on the problems that threaten our very survival? How can we truly solve global warming, global dimming and catastrophic climate change? Clearly, we must drastically curtail our incineration of fossil fuels and research viable alternatives.

Some environmentalists are beginning to resign themselves towards weak solutions or nonsolutions such as drastically reducing our energy consumption while desperately increasing the use of solar, wind, hydrogen fuel cells, biofuels and even nuclear power. The whole environmental movement is fractured into discord because no viable solution seems to be forthcoming even if we were to magically stop dumping carbon and particulates into our atmosphere. The routine burning of fossil fuels is creating the climate instabilities many of us planetary scientists conclude will lead to global catastrophe if we don’t do something about it soon. We have played God with our planet for too long. Yet our politicians, corporatists and media pundits keep fiddling while the Earth burns.

The fact is, conventional renewables won’t solve the bulk of the problem when we consider the full life-cycle environmental and economic costs and benefits. Solar and wind energy are materials, capital and land intensive, diffuse and intermittent. Hydrogen fuel cells are expensive and require more energy to produce the hydrogen than you get out of them. Biofuels such as ethanol use a lot of land and compete with agriculture, for example, deforesting ever more the Amazon. Biofuels also consume a lot of energy to grow and transport and they still dump carbon into the atmosphere.

As a result of this gloomy outlook, some environmentalists such as James Lovelock and Stewart Brand have therefore resigned themselves to nuclear power, in spite of the fact that it is unsafe (remember Chernobyl?), polluting (what do we do with millennia of radioactive waste?), and lead to the manufacture of doomsday technologies that are now spreading throughout the world. Nuclear “hot” fusion Tokomak reactors have proven to be unfeasible, radioactive, and too centralized to be practical. We have already spent tens of billions of dollars over decades of trying. It’s a boondoggle.

Other “solutions” such as sequestering carbon or injecting particles into the atmosphere to offset greenhouse warming are band-aids that can only lead to further instabilities in our already-overburdened environment. I for one do not want to terror-form the Earth.

So we will need to go outside the box for our solutions, free of vested interests.and geared towards creating a sustainable future. With every passing moment, this vision slips away from us as we jump off the cliff lemming-like and the privileged ones amass an ever-greater share of power. These “leaders” prey upon our ignorance, confusion and inaction. Divide and conquer.

Economic arguments such as Peak Oil, while supporting our overall need to become unaddicted to fossil fuels, also reward the oil giants as they reap ever-greater profits because of the perception, whether true or not, of increasing scarcity in the face of increasing demand. The Peak Oil issue seems to be a distraction, because macroeconomics itself is a contrived “science” that pales in importance compared to the environmental destruction itself.

We are dealing with physical problems that demand physical solutions, and by process of elimination of conventional alternatives and ignoring the possibility of innovation, we seem to be facing our demise from destructive practices. At least, that is our current perception, just like when, around 1900, we all thought the future of air travel would be solely dirigibles and balloons. Scientific American in 1905 denied the reality of the Wright brothers’ maiden flights, witnessed for over a year by thousands, because “they weren’t reported”. What they didn’t know was that the reporter-witness from the Wrights’ own hometown newspaper was fired from his position because the editor felt “heavier than air flight was impossible”. They hadn’t looked at birds, I guess. And the number of glazy-eyed disconnects when the topic of new energy is raised is daunting—especially with respect to the media. It’s as if I had contracted a highly communicable disease.

We need a revolution. We need an entirely new perspective. As in many other instances of profound social change based on necessity, most of us are afraid to think anew. We are looking backwards when we also need to move forward. Instead, we need to look at the broader picture and seek ways of letting innovation help us rather than to destroy us.

Enter new energy. We hear reports coming from all over the world about “free” (new) energy breakthroughs. The formal definition of new energy is energy heretofore unrecognized by mainstream science. These include innovative manipulations of the water molecule, advanced hydrogen chemistries that permit much larger energy transitions in the presence of catalysts, tabletop “cold” fusion or low energy nuclear reactions catalyzed in solutions of water and heavy water, zero point energy using solid state devices, plasmas, charge clusters, exotic materials, and supermagnets using supermotors.

For the past fifteen years I have made a careful experimental and theoretical study of new energy options that appear to break the “laws” of equilibrium physics. But we do not seem to have the collective imagination to get beyond invention to actually building practical devices. In fact, the research has been actively suppressed by those in control. From observing demonstrations of a wide range of technologies, I can be sure that one or more of them could provide us with a quantum leap in having clean, cheap and decentralized energy for the whole world, thus eliminating poverty and restoring the environment.

As a physicist myself with forty years after my doctorate having had many different positions in research, teaching and writing at leading universities and independently, I hope I have acquired some sense of the history of technological breakthroughs that have overturned the old ideas. I am aware of the enormous resistance and suppression that has gripped new energy science ever since the time of Nikola Tesla. The history of science is full of naysaying.

OK, some of you may not believe what I say. You may want to go to your favorite hand-picked physicists who would declare “that can’t be” because it would break the “laws” of thermodynamics. Some will demand a definitive demonstration not realizing we are in the early research phase of an R&D cycle. These myopic mainstream scientists are too busy protecting their specialized careers to bother looking, because it would threaten their own world views.

The truth is, many physicists and I disagree with these scientific fundamentalists, who have formed an unwitting alliance with those in charge of current energy policies, just as the Peak Oil people are in unwitting alliance with the oil companies and their obscene profits. In other words, those of you aligned with conventional scientific wisdom have not yet acquired a more complete story. You’ll have to dig more. The physicists in denial are in fact ignorant about the experimental and theoretical evidence for new energy. As throughout the history of science, the true innovators are often pushed away and debunked. The pioneers of new energy could become heroes, but only after the ridicule ends and the culture chooses to adopt it.

In reality, there are no laws in science, only theories. Often the new paradigms are accepted by the high priests of establishment science only after years to decades of denial. But we don’t have the luxury of time on this one.

Quantum physics, low energy nuclear reaction experiments, and chaos theory describe results in which the “laws” of thermodynamics are clearly violated under nonequilibrium conditions. If you are a skeptic, please don’t go down the path of exclusive naysaying without taking a peek, without venturing outside of your own Plato’s cave. Don’t rely on the scientific double standard “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”. Don’t believe simplistic bromides such as “there is no such thing as perpetual motion.” This thinking will only lead you into a retrogressive cul de sac where there appear to be no real solutions to our energy dilemmas.

Let us back off the question of scientific credibility for a moment, because it is so easy to be stuck there and not pay any attention to the bigger issues raised by the possibility of having new energy. As a thought exercise, let’s say that practical prototypes do become available in the not-too-distant future. Let’s say these technologies offer orders-of-magnitude improvement in price and cleanliness after full life-cycle costs are considered. Let’s say we could, if we so choose, have power packs decentralized from the authoritarian grid system and available to everyone on Earth. What should we do? Should we go ahead with this or not? Can we use it wisely to save our planet? Or should we just let the warmongers and energy barons now in charge abuse this one too? Or should we not use it at all?

In asking these questions, we all need to join the debate, because the possibility of a new energy society might be the most important discussion affecting the future of man and nature. Clearly we want to explore these questions more deeply.

I have seen for myself many forms of new energy produced in laboratories around the world and well-documented by many of us in peer-reviewed papers, websites, books and articles. The number of concept proofs is overwhelming. Therefore, we should explore what it would take to implement new energy, even if the issue is only hypothetical to the skeptical inquirer. My analysis indicates that a secured R&D lab exploring the principal options using teams of scientists and engineers, might require $200m in funds and we could have something viable to use in homes, buildings, and transportation systems in about five years. This is less than a day of American taxpayer spending on the devastation of Iraq or two days of current profits for Exxon-Mobil.

Let’s say you are still skeptical of this even after putting in your due diligence. Are you 100% sure it won’t work? (a highly unlikely outcome of doing your homework.) Would a day in Iraq exchanged even with a remote possibility such as this be worth considering? Do you have the intellectual imagination to explore these possibilities before the secret government/kleptocracy take this one over too? Surely we need to see what we can do to get off this gloomy treadmill and go a step beyond the thinking of those who have led us into this mess in the first place.

Above all, the consideration of new energy for our future goes to the core of what democratic discourse means. Surely the public needs to become aware of some of the most important choices that we face, staying ahead of and forever vigilant of the transgressions of our “leaders”.

Some critics claim some of us are fanatical new energy advocates using naïve science or having megalomania for such “technological fixes” that would only create another Faustian bargain like nuclear energy. Several environmentalists have pointed out that new energy could be weaponized, overused, and otherwise abused.

None of these assertions needs to be true in a healthy democracy. They can only distract us from the bigger issues. I am an advocate of democratic debate of what we should do about new energy if it were brought forward, if at all. How would its implementation affect current institutions, our power structures? How can we make the necessary economic and social conversions? Could we trust the Bush Administration or Exxon-Mobil or General Electric to manage all this? Most thinking people would say no to that, that they would not want to see this innovation be co-opted. Instead we should look towards new forms of publicly-mandated oversight and regulation of the new technologies.

In short, the mega-issue of what choices we must make on which source(s) of energy we want force the issue of wise management of future energy policy, regardless of our personal or institutional preferences. It is something we will have to do anyway. Put differently, if we were not to get beyond our denials of new energy, it might some day be imposed on us in the form of weapons and centralized control by the cabal that is now in charge of our disastrous use of fossil fuels and nuclear energy. Meanwhile most of the rest of us stand idly by, further abrogating our responsibility as citizens.

In these times, the core of democracy within the U.S. has fallen to new lows. The awakening we will need to have mandates an open discussion of the full range of energy options. Meanwhile we should remove from power those who have led us astray, who have lied, suppressed and profited at the expense of all life on Earth.
We need to awaken not only to new energy, but to reasserting our power, our intelligence. This is literally a case of “power to the people”.

But we also must let go of our preconceived ideas and promotions, roll up our sleeves, do the research and development Apollo-style and have the democratic discussions. This is the only way I see we can move forward, even if your perception may be that new energy is, at best, a longshot. Or, after reasoned discussion and debate, if we willfully and respectfully reject the new energy option, we should know why, because such a decision might be to our collective peril.

So here is the multiple choice quiz that might just mean we re-inherit or dis-inherit the Earth: Should we: (1) use, (2) abuse, (3) not use or (4) deny new energy?


As with Bibhas De, Brian O’Leary is treading on very dangerous ground here. I could cite similar examples from many other fields, including consciousness research, anthropology, and even history, but it's the same pattern, over and over again. Despite the apparent success of the conspirators, however, we have something on our side that they lack--the force of evolutionary change. Did you know, as a last example, that our perception (visual, auditory, etc) has dramatically changed over the span of just a few thousand years? At the time of the writing of the Bible and the Rig Veda there was no word for the color of the sky, apparently because we couldn't perceive the color blue.

Who knows what new senses we're acquiring in our accelerating evolution, senses that could make sense of what seem to be "paranormal" activities, despite the active suppression of what we know or suspect that we know. The method of cosmic consciousness is intuition, the next step up the evolutionary ladder.

Oarwell makes an interesting point about cellphones and telephone telepathy. When I was very young, my grandmother's phone number was still known (to us at least) as PA4-_ _ _ _, the old prefix word designation. My own phone number was very similar, which made it easy for me to learn & remember both, and both phones were, of course, the old dial phones. I always knew when the phone would ring. In fact, it was a standing joke in our house that if you really wanted to talk to someone, you'd pick up the phone before it rang, which used to happen all the time. Not so with the new phones. Was there something about that older technology that made such things possible, or had we just lived around it longer enough to attenuate ourselves to its frequencies? If it took us 2000 years to learn the color blue, but only 50 to read the phone, what does that suggest about the rate of change going on inside us? And, more importantly, how can such things be suppressed?

11/16/2006 01:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Silverfox said...

Well Oarwell...

Considering that all the land-line phones are connected in an enormous gridwork that stands in both an electrified as well as a grounded state of readiness there may be more to your casual observation than you think.

Cell phone messages are broadcast to us independently through the far less dense atmosphere at a high rate of speed and on a frequency level that may simply preclude any ability on our part to anticipate them or sort them out of an intensely busy background before they can arrive.

Someone's intention to phone a friend through a land-line on the other hand may induce some subtle form of "anticipation" for want of a better word in the phone grid itself that is simply sensed from a close proximity to it on the other end at the very same time.

Another possibility is that the phone wires themselves already form a solid connection between the two places and are made out of of one of very best electrical conductors in existence. Our own bodies not to mention the structures of our immediate surroundings are also swarming with the same kind of electrons that make that conductor what it is.

The first electrons to hop off a person's body and onto the phone system before they've even picked up the reciever to place the call may already know where they're going to go at the quantum level. Similarly the ones that are forced to hop off on the other end may also know where they're destined to go as well and by hopping onto the body of the recipient may somehow identify the sender simply through their personal "intent" and prompt the person to intuit both the sender and the call just before it arrives.

Now I myself have had what I think is a very common experience of simply being struck by some tune I haven't thought of in a donkey's age only to find it playing on the radio when I turn it on just moments later. Or stranger by far to have one seem to arise and linger about for no particular reason that I'll then find playing in the mall or supermarket when I walk in the door shortly afterwards.

So I very much think that there is more than "something in the air" when it comes to precognition as well but it may be far harder to detect or discern because there is also so much other and stronger stuff bouncing around with far less to absorb or impede the kind of interference it generates.

Any continuously broadcasting radio station particularly with the kind of megawatts they have beind them create their own field within that field that we can sometimes inadvertently pick up on or at least that what seems like.

Our homes and offices where our land-line phones exist are also an effective shield against much of that same background noise and another valid reason to consider why the kind of subtle anticipation seems to occur to enough people that way to bring it to our attention.

Now I realize that this may seem like a bit of a reach from that but the stuff that makes up our bodies has to be far more in tune and intimately connected with our thoughts than we might ever consider in order to create the objective responses we expect and simply believe to be so self-evidential.

Now physics can explain many properties of physical movement and it's effect upon various weights and masses on our level but it is a dead loss to explain how the phenomenon of movement itself can be accomplished at all.

Clearly we cannot simply drag our atoms and molecules around with us based on of the outward appearance of our physical structure regardless of what rules we think they obey or conform to in that process. Nor perform such incredibly complex tasks such as the fantastically controlled modualation required for human speech and they way we so casually employ it strictly by willpower alone and no genuine knowledge or even the slightest thought about the true nature of the "voluntary" processes involved and what is actually volunteering to do them...hmmm?

This cannot be done without a remarkably high degree of compliance at both the molecular and atomic levels that by far exceeds any power of our physical structures themslves to ever convey that will of our's to them from the "outside in" so to speak when the structures themselves can only really work from the "inside out" on their own superficial level...hmmm? LOL

So what is there to say? Our atoms and molecules have to begin moving us around long before we can see any evidence of it to tell either us or our lagging physical brains that we are actually doing what we think we're doing...hmmm? LOL

Now there's is also an obscure anecdote that I have yet to track down or verify that presents another interesting twist on our physicality if it's in fact true.

According to the story a new and extremely high powered microscope was delivered to one of those "alphabetical agencies" of the government. An advanced microscope powerfull enough to actually see strands of live DNA under it's highest magnification.

Eager to test it out a researcher decided to gather some samples to give it a whirl.

A line-up of subjects for another project accross the hallway from this lab were asked to donate some mouth scrapings and several quite willingly did. The samples were numbered and prepped and the microscope apparently lived up to it's expectations.

In observing one of the specimens, however, a curious development seemed to occur. The strands of that subject's DNA seemed to be alternately coiling tightly or relaxing and unwinding more loosely at timed intervals. Since this hadn't happened with any of the other samples they went looking for the same subject to get another sample to compare.

As it supposedly turned out that particular subject was himself being tested at that very same time accross the hallway. Having his galvanic skin responses measured as he was being shown alternately grim and ugly scenes or pleasant and happy ones on a screen.

According to the tale this subject's DNA across the hall in the lab was contracting at the same time he viewed the grim scenes and uncoiling with the happy ones. Apparently this has formed the basis for another study that has not only repeated and confirmed those findings it has also recorded the same kind of instantaneous response now over several hundred miles distance placed between the subject and his sample with no discernalble delay in the reaction.

Now part of our propblem is simply due to the fact that both our quantum state and normal physical ones only form separate concepts within our own minds. In truth they are very much an integrated circuit of causal/effect and effectal/cause interactions that prevent us from having a very severe case of the "jaggies and laggies" if you will that would likely drives us compretely bonkers watching ourelves dissipate from behind and beginning to form just ahead in whatever direction or action we've barely considered let alone firmly decided.

11/16/2006 08:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

silverfox,

there is no fucking way that (dna twitching) can be true. what you're describing is basically quantum phenomena on a "normal" scale...that would completely undermine everything we know about quantum AND relativity...it would represent one of the largest shifts in physics ever..it would be like ptolemy to copernicus

then again, if you can dredge up any sorta reference i would have to (and quite excitedly) delve into it...

your friendly neighborhood disinfo agent

11/16/2006 09:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what you're describing is basically quantum phenomena on a "normal" scale...that would completely undermine everything we know about quantum AND relativity...it would represent one of the largest shifts in physics ever..it would be like Ptolemy to Copernicus

?

First, "Ptolymy to Copernicus" did happen before, so I'm not sure where you're getting at except you seem to be saying that "we've reached the plateau of all human knowledge and everything is explainable with current theories.' Er, no.

And No. It's not "quantum phenomena at a 'normal' scale" because there's not really a difficulty in that. Biophotons exist for instance. You're just in denial about (whatever you want to call it) 'morphogenic fields' or physic issues, etc., which are equally explainable.

If you don't like tossing ideas around, don't. Though please update your science.

Second, there are indeed theories out there for quantum physical elements on macro-scales, particularly potential explanations of superconductivity:

"BCS theory (named for its creators, Bardeen, Cooper, and Schrieffer) explains conventional superconductivity, the ability of certain metals at low temperatures to conduct electricity without electrical resistance. BCS theory views [macro] superconductivity as a macroscopic quantum mechanical effect."

And third,

"Broadly speaking, quantum mechanics incorporates four classes of phenomena that classical physics cannot account for: (i) the quantization (discretization) of certain physical quantities, (ii) wave-particle duality, (iii) the uncertainty principle, and (iv) quantum entanglement. Each of these phenomena will be described in greater detail in subsequent sections. Since the early days of quantum theory, physicists have made many attempts to combine it with the other highly successful theory of the twentieth century, Albert Einstein's General Theory of Relativity. While quantum mechanics is entirely consistent with special relativity, serious problems emerge when one tries to join the quantum laws with general relativity, a more elaborate description of spacetime which incorporates gravity. Resolving these inconsistencies has been a major goal of twentieth- and twenty-first-century physics. Despite the proposal of many novel ideas, the unification of quantum mechanics—which reigns in the domain of the very small—and general relativity—a superb description of the very large—remains a tantalizing future possibility. ([3] See quantum gravity, [4] string theory.)"

So a big PTTTBH (raspberry for you). Update your science.

And no. There ARE limitations to 'relativity theory' (which you can't have and quote so knowledgeably both ways...with quantum physics ideas) particularly the 'spooky action at a distance' issue--which of course Einstein disliked because it did show some limitations with his ideas which came earlier. Where have you been the whole 20th century as people have been working to integrate both, because separated they are both LIMITED theories about matter.

So after your mistaken conflation that there "are no macro theories utilizing quantum theory" (wrong on many exasperatingly well known examples), and then what is your mistaken conflation of quantum theory with Einstein in the same breath, you still move on to your next jump and call it "would represent one of the largest shifts in physics ever..it would be like ptolemy to copernicus",--

which, yes and no. Yes, it would be since science is so overspecialized that the macro and micro theorists rarely if ever have any parties together. And no at the same moment, since obviously, nothing novel is being considered at all-- it is actually 'conservative' and in line with the direction that physics is taking of merging macro-and-quantum theory.

Update your science. Here's a spoon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_theory

11/16/2006 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Silverfox said...

Well Iridescent One...

Regardless of how far or fast our own deeper insights and inclinations may ever take us in examining any existing systems there is alawys an overwhelming blockade that simply presumes if our ideas or insights were any good some well credentialled expert would surely have already thought of them and made them available...hmmm? LOL

Of course all we can say by way of reply is simply that perhaps no one has yet given them a thought or a second thought as is more properly the case in most instances.

But the buffetting we take stems from a variety of sources not the least of which are the egos of those we need to communicate such ideas to in order to get them off the ground who either look askance at us or come right out and depreciatively gufffaw "What do you think you are, some kind of genius or something???" and simply wave us off.

Some of us do have more of a penchant for thinking than others, even to the point of finding it not just an altogether pleasant pastime but an exhilarating and exciting challenge in trying to swiftly wrap our minds around many things in as many different ways as we can. To truly see that "big picture" that the kind of minds we are simply born with seem to already know is there somewhere.

There's no need to go into the sordid details but being the thoughtfull and well read fellow that I've always been, I've managed to pull more than a few rabbits out of my hat and saved the day in the nick of time, as they say, on more occasions than I dare to think about. Many years in which that was exactly the source of my bread and butter.

There's nothing like picking nitwits out of your hair who want to know why some project isn't half done when half the time has elapsed. People who haven't the vaguest inkling of just how much and how fast what you're working on is going to go barrelling down the tracks flat out after every switch has been meticulously set in place and all is in readiness for it; nevermind that you've dovetailled any number of other similar projects to both speed and be speeded along with it at the very same time...hmmm? LMAO

Despite that I've had actually had superiors in those instances who've asked me point blank if I was a "closet intellectual" to which I've had to reply "No I do it right out in the open where everyone can see it...hmmm?" with as good natured a laugh as I could manage under the circumstances to try to ward off what was clearly considered to be an insult or threat of some kind.

But the kind of suspicion that prompts such remarks when all you've done is your very best to be helpfull from as sincere a motivation as possible can be utterly depressing and daunting at times. People who climb the proverbial ladder by getting themselves noticed think that everyone else must be doing the same thing too...hmmm?

Meanwhile all you're try to do is find some ground you can stand on that will let you be what you are and enjoyably apply that talent to think in a world that takes a singular delight in making no end of thoughtless problems for you to solve on an ongoing basis and a simple desire to be left in peace and reasonably respected while you go about your business and solve them.

The kind of satisfaction that brings is something you pay for by truly putting yourself into it but it only lasts but a few seconds before you find your head filling up with all the other new ideas that have suddenly become possible simply because you have.

While everyone else is busy congratulating themselves all you can think about is the next opportunity to give them a proper go...

Fondest Regards From the Fox

11/16/2006 11:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Silverfox said...

Well Iridescent One...

Regardless of how far or fast our own deeper insights and inclinations may ever take us in examining any existing systems there is alawys an overwhelming blockade that simply presumes if our ideas or insights were any good some well credentialled expert would surely have already thought of them and made them available...hmmm? LOL

Of course all we can say by way of reply is simply that perhaps no one has yet given them a thought or a second thought as is more properly the case in most instances.

But the buffetting we take stems from a variety of sources not the least of which are the egos of those we need to communicate such ideas to in order to get them off the ground who either look askance at us or come right out and depreciatively gufffaw "What do you think you are, some kind of genius or something???" and simply wave us off.

Some of us do have more of a penchant for thinking than others, even to the point of finding it not just an altogether pleasant pastime but an exhilarating and exciting challenge in trying to swiftly wrap our minds around many things in as many different ways as we can. To truly see that "big picture" that the kind of minds we are simply born with seem to already know is there somewhere.

There's no need to go into the sordid details but being the thoughtfull and well read fellow that I've always been, I've managed to pull more than a few rabbits out of my hat and saved the day in the nick of time, as they say, on more occasions than I dare to think about. Many years in which that was exactly the source of my bread and butter.

There's nothing like picking nitwits out of your hair who want to know why some project isn't half done when half the time has elapsed. People who haven't the vaguest inkling of just how much and how fast what you're working on is going to go barrelling down the tracks flat out after every switch has been meticulously set in place and all is in readiness for it; nevermind that you've dovetailled any number of other similar projects to both speed and be speeded along with it at the very same time...hmmm? LMAO

Despite that I've had actually had superiors in those instances who've asked me point blank if I was a "closet intellectual" to which I've had to reply "No I do it right out in the open where everyone can see it...hmmm?" with as good natured a laugh as I could manage under the circumstances to try to ward off what was clearly considered to be an insult or threat of some kind.

But the kind of suspicion that prompts such remarks when all you've done is your very best to be helpfull from as sincere a motivation as possible can be utterly depressing and daunting at times. People who climb the proverbial ladder by getting themselves noticed think that everyone else must be doing the same thing too...hmmm?

Meanwhile all you're try to do is find some ground you can stand on that will let you be what you are and enjoyably apply that talent to think in a world that takes a singular delight in making no end of thoughtless problems for you to solve on an ongoing basis and a simple desire to be left in peace and reasonably respected while you go about your business and solve them.

The kind of satisfaction that brings is something you pay for by truly putting yourself into it but it only lasts but a few seconds before you find your head filling up with all the other new ideas that have suddenly become possible simply because you have.

While everyone else is busy congratulating themselves all you can think about is the next opportunity to give them a proper go...

Fondest Regards From the Fox

11/16/2006 11:26:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Well, Mr. Fox, whilst I appreciate your sympathetic vibe to my suppression rap, I really didn't mean to draw attention to myself, certainly not in placing myself in the same league as Bibhas De and Brian O' Leary. Those are the big boys, trained scientists; I was an un- or at best self-trained engineer/technician. The only reason I included my own experience was to show that these aren't just abstract discussions of possible conspiracy--this stuff really does happen, as a matter of policy, in universities and workplaces all over the world. As O' Leary says,

How can we make the necessary economic and social conversions? Could we trust the Bush Administration or Exxon-Mobil or General Electric to manage all this? Most thinking people would say no to that, that they would not want to see this innovation be co-opted. Instead we should look towards new forms of publicly-mandated oversight and regulation of the new technologies.

Since the preservation of the status quo is in the interest of those whom it most benefits, these same ruthless bastards cannot be trusted to oversee the implementation of the new energies, nor, for that matter, to continue to be allowed to dictate the framework for scientific research.

I do share O' Leary's belief that we can turn this situation around; the solutions, from converting the economy from a hydrocarbon to a carbohydrate base to making a concerted effort to bring the new energies to practical development stage (instead of sabotaging that same process), are all eminently doable; we just need to break the death grip of the elites over these aspects of our lives. How that is to be achieved is the next stage of the discussion.

11/17/2006 11:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love it when people have arguments with themselves, AND they're condescending at the same time. It just makes me smile.

Anono, whenever I get a chance to respond to your diatribe about relativity and quantum I will (dear god, he mentioned two theories in the same sentence! he must must not understand either of them. that fool!).

And silverfox, don't let my (inexact) internet tone set you off. My first paragraph was nothing more than an exclamation of shocked disbelief, no offense intended. I truly think that if what you descibed was true, it would force a major shift in scientific thinking. I would be much obliged if you could track down whatever reference you can find.

Anono, you still have me laughing...

your friendly neighborhood disinfo agent

11/17/2006 06:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"First, "Ptolymy to Copernicus" did happen before..."

Holy shit, I had no fucking idea! You mean the earth ISN'T the center of the universe!

Can't stop laughing....

your friendly neighborhood disinfo agent

11/17/2006 06:09:00 PM  
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I am well educated and well read.I als o attend the university of life,conversations about house prices bore me etc.

My own experiences have led me to believe that if you experience this shit you will believe or at least acknowledge the realm of high wierdness.

Unfotunately in our media saturated era we are referenced by smug,flippant,throw away judgements.Ghost busters,Scooby Doo, Excorcist etc but if you experience altered states,disembodied auras etc you will never look back.

"Oooh spooky what did you see?"
The answer being it is not what I saw but what I felt,I was an ape in a cave.I experienced deep profound fear as I was held,bound,thrown and frozen by shadows,wraiths,ghosts? My sphincter and mouth congealed I was in a state of abject terror....

Who did I call? My grandmother who believed and never questioned .I miss her, now more than ever.Ancestor worship is no bad thing and thats all for now folks.

These experiences occured between the ages of 5-10.

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Each world, each universe has it's own subjective mind.

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Now we just need to bring them together.

Soon the teaching machine.

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