Wednesday, January 24, 2007

Open Thread



I really do, when I've gone so long without updating, and it seems like I had just laid down to "rest my eyes" when suddenly it's a whole new damn day.

I'm struggling with a long post, which has to be juggled with family, work, forum administration, site development, the new book and the need for some sleep to pull myself back together. Apologies, and thanks for your patience.

336 Comments:

Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Just out of curiosity, what constitutes "work?" I assumed you derived your income mainly from your literary skills, i.e. books and/or articles.

1/24/2007 03:33:00 PM  
Blogger Vemrion said...

I hear ya, man. It's amazing how fast time can slip by; then I suddenly realize I haven't updated my blog in days.

I just want to kick off this open thread by mentioning the recent death of E. Howard Hunt. Is anybody else hoping his upcoming book has a chapter called "How we got that sunofabitch, JFK in Dallas"? That would make things so much simpler. But it never is that easy, is it?

1/24/2007 03:34:00 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

Just out of curiosity, what constitutes "work?"

work

1/24/2007 03:45:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

The last thread has sort devolved into into an I intercourse, therefore I am sort of "thinking," so I'll pose my question here instead. Would any of you rigorheads care to help me out with a bit of an impasse I've encountered with this project I'm working on? The question is this: If there is more to life, some grander purpose, destiny or endeavor than worshipping one's genitalia (as seems to have been suggested in that last thread and maybe even in the wider culture as well), would anyone care to speculate on how the impulse to love one's neighbor (no, not like that!) could be implemented as the basis for human social interactions? I mean, barn-raising is all fine and good, but what would you do with bankers in such a system, much less politicians or any of the other self-serving professions which seem to direct the lesser lemmings?

I already have lots of material on this, but someone else's perspective would be helpful at this point, and who are you all, if not someones elses?

most humbly,
IC

1/24/2007 03:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Thanks for being Frank, Jeff. :-)

1/24/2007 04:07:00 PM  
Blogger Vemrion said...

IC: You've run into a classic problem that trips up everyone who tries to design an ideal/utopian system: The Problem of Evil. Much thought has been devoted to understanding why God allows evil, and whether the existence of evil means God doesn't exist. But, more practically, evil fucks things up so bad that we can't really devote the time necessary to ponder these questions because we have to spend much of our time fending off the privations of reality just to continue being alive.

Short answer: Banks are evil. Many bankers are evil. In any sort of utopian world there is no place for either banks or bankers. Or politicians. We need a new system, but with time the new system will get just as fucked up as this one because the world is infested with evil people.

Oddly enough, this makes me think a Bible-derived apocalyptic battle between good and evil would actually be a good thing. It's either that or this shitty reality repeats forever and ever. Quite frankly, I'll take the apocalypse, thanks.

1/24/2007 04:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Muhammad said...

Free a slave, and feed the hungry.

1/24/2007 04:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love Frank!

1/24/2007 05:11:00 PM  
Anonymous richard said...

Vemrion - Re: Hunt's death..,well, timing is everything and this event's timing was too perfect. Pneumonia? Puh. I hope Hunt left info elsewhere to be released. Sigh...

1/24/2007 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous fingerfood said...

We all need a vacation sometimes. Maybe you should just shut down for a month or two and walk away?

It wouldn't hurt to relax and dream, would it? We'll still be here when you get back - and you'll be better off for having taken the break.

Just go. Don't think about it.

All the best to you!

1/24/2007 05:48:00 PM  
Anonymous I Died A Thousand Times said...

Social Network Diagrams and eHarassment

1/24/2007 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A leading scholar has said that the end-times rapture theology propagated by many fundamentalist Christian groups, and said to be an influence within the Bush White House, is unbiblical and basically “nuts”.

It is vital that Christians address apocalyptic questions and the proper handling of scriptural texts because there is a powerful sense of ‘an end’ right now in our culture, declared the Rev Dr Barbara R. Rossing at the Trinity Institute's 37th national theological conference on 23 January 2007....

[Maybe she's nuts]


link
http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=7603

1/24/2007 06:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Bill Ayers said...

''Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at.''

-Bill Ayers, The Weather Underground, 1970.

My mummy said it would be ok to kill her and daddy only after I:

a.) do my homework.

b.) eat all of my veggies for dinner. (including spinach)

c.) clean my room.

1/24/2007 06:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Norman Bates said...

Well, I'm not into 'matricide' anymore, I sleep on a futon now.

1/24/2007 06:59:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

If the depth of understanding is spread more evenly throughout society, there will be less opportunity for con men to pull their scams. As long as the con men can make the rules of playing the reality games complicated, and keep the code to themselves; they can grow their advantage. Of course those complicated rules can be inconvenient, because of their rough correlation to reality, but that’s okay too; yet more profit opportunities. Parasites like their hosts to be sick.

We look to the con men still, because their story seems convincing to the majority of people. Or at least the people that matter, and the dumb people. The rest of us however, have not taken responsibility to create a more intrinsically appealing story. We are fools to think that we merely need some subtle refinement of our current stories. Provide one, and you might even get a job. If it’s close enough to the existing stories, then it can be construed and manipulated to reflect well on those stories. We can do more than simply realize that we have been brainwashed.


Vemrion, while evil presents immediate problems, long term it helps us identify the problem. All will be redeemed in the love of God. This is an issue with people like Ryan from the last comment stream; calling down the wrath of God. That ain’t God. That’s Jehovah, Ahriman; the static principle. Do what you are told. The proof of its bastard provenance is its call for vengeance. Same as on the other side, been down so long, they are determined to seek their own vengeance. And still yet, I maintain evil is not the problem? Evil will take care of itself.

1/24/2007 07:04:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Lets do the inner work necessary, so as to make armageddon metaphorical.

1/24/2007 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

IC, don't be such a prude.

The Hunts are some weird-ass sonofabitches. Bunky used to run at my high school track (the stadium complex being built with funds donated from the Haggar Family who's children apparently attended at some point)while I attended. I didn't know who the hell he was then....but my Political Science teacher used to drop his name every other week.

Yeah, I went to a fascist college preparatory school....but then again, so did Castro.

1/24/2007 07:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Sorry about that....they were unrelated Hunts, although Bunker's Father had a hand in it, I'm sure, so in that sense, it's related to the JFK Assasination.

1/24/2007 07:58:00 PM  
Blogger foist lastus said...

One way to divy the human condition up is'service to self' versus 'service to others', if life is a lesson, i find personally, that serving others is the most opportune way to learn! On a more mysterious note, aggressive ambidexterity (like drawing, writing) will reveal new truths.

1/24/2007 09:07:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

1.

IC says:

"I mean, barn-raising is all fine and good, but what would you do with bankers in such a system, much less politicians or any of the other self-serving professions which seem to direct the lesser lemmings?"

Instead of bankers, think more abstractly: what kind of financial relations of which bankers are just one example.

Think both organizationally as well as what kind of properties money has to create different incentive and flow structures.

First, this following idea worked by changing both--worked so well that all of Austria in the early 1930s was about to be 'converted' in the midst of the Great Depression--then political criminals stepped in to maintain a more managerial framework...

How about this interesting idea?
A fee based currency to local urban area

Wake up and take notice of Silvio Gesell:

It worked so well to reduce poverty and demote private banker jurisdiction over the whole society that the Austrian central bank repressed it during the 1930s!!

excerpt:

****In 1890 Silvio Gesell formulated a theory of money as revolutionary as the notion that it is the Earth that circles the sun, rather than the other way around -- despite appearances. Gesell suggested securing the money flow by making money a governmental service subject to a use fee. Instead of paying interest to those who have more money than they need, people would pay a small fee if they kept money out of circulation. The fee would serve as an income to the government and reduce the amount of taxes needed to carry out public tasks."****

Gesell's ideas were tested by the mayor of Woergl, Austria in July 1932 when economic conditions were deplorable. The mayor proposed to substitute a local currency for the national currency. They were called work certificates and on the first of every month...

rest at link

The important difference about voluntary local currency phenomena, which is different than Gessell's idea which was formally institutionalized as the currency by the city, is that few voluntary ones are officially accepted. Once a local currency was officially recognized for state based payments as in Austria across 200 cities in the early 1930s, the whole thing seriously took off. Accept them for city payments. Institutionalize them. One of the difficulties I have read about, in many merely voluntary currencies, is that there are few professional services that opt to participate or if they do, keep participation for long (doctors, lawyers, dentists, chain stores, malls, etc.) though when they do such voluntary currencies last longer. However, nothing voluntary has ever taken off like multiple local official urban-only currencies currencies in Austria.

The above link has a comment stream there after the article for more.

Second, Fitts has thought deeply about all this as well. You could go to Catherine Austin Fitts'

http://solari.com/

for ideas on conceptualizing social flows of money and how to keep it in certain locations instead of draining away to consolidate in private banks.

2.

IC said:

"..much less politicians or any of the other self-serving professions..."

The main issue I think in common with much democratic difficulty is placeless, informal party gatekeeping against local concerns instead of representing their specific developmental concerns; as well as a lack of formal democracy incentives to maintain competitive parties that have incentives to compete for 100% of the electorate, instead of only incentives to compete for the same partial electorate (and ignore the rest).

Ideas on how to demote such gatekeeping and maintain party incentives for a 100% competitive party framework (via PRMA, among others) are in the book or the blog.

Toward A Bioregional State is a novel approach to development and to sustainability. He proposes that instead of sustainability being an issue of population scale, managerial economics, or technocratic planning, an overhaul of formal democratic institutions is required. This is because environmental degradation has more to do with the biased interactions of formal institutions and informal corruption. Because of corruption, we have environmental degradation. Current formal democratic institutions of states are forms of informal gatekeeping, and as such, intentionally maintain democracy as ecologically “out of sync”. He argues that we are unable to reach sustainability without a host of additional ecological checks and balances. These ecological checks and balances would demote corrupt uses of formal institutions by removing capacities for gatekeeping against democratic feedback. Sustainability is a politics that is already here—only waiting to be formally organized.

1/24/2007 09:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff,

You always do such great work with Photoshop. Are there any books you could recommend for someone who is just starting out?

Thanks,
Chris

1/24/2007 10:56:00 PM  
Anonymous ryan said...

Mathew 11:25 At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to babes.

Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent proved to be the most cautious of all the wild beasts of the field that Jehovah God had made. So it began to say to the woman: “is it really so that God said you must not eat from every tree of the garden?” 2. At this the woman said to the serpent: “Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat. 3. But as for of the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it that you do not die’

Sounder Quote “calling down the wrath of God. That ain’t God. That’s Jehovah, Ahriman; the static principle. Do what you are told. The proof of its bastard provenance is its call for vengeance. Same as on the other side, been down so long, they are determined to seek their own vengeance.”

Genesis 3:4 At this the serpent said to the woman: “You positively will not die. 5. For God knows that in the very day of your eating from it your eyes are bound to be opened and you are bound to be like God, knowing good and bad.”

Deuteronomy 3:6 However, we devoted them to destruction, just as we had done to Si’hon the king of Hesh’bon, in devoting every city to destruction, men, women and little children”

Deuteronomy 4:3 Your own eyes are the ones that saw what Jehovah did in the case of the Baal of Peor that every man who walked after Baal of Peor was the one whom Jehovah you God annihilated from your midst.

Deuteronomy 4:32 – 35 “Now ask, please, concerning the former days that occurred before you, from the day that God created man on the earth and from one end of the heavens clear to the other end of the heavens, Was any great thing brought about like this or was anything heard like it? Has any other people heard the voice of God speaking out of the middle of the fire the way you yourself have heard it, and kept on living? Or did God attempt to come to take a nation to himself out of the midst of another nation with provings, with signs and with miracles and with war and with a strong hand and with an outstretched arm and with great fearsomeness like all that Jehovah your God has done for you in Egypt before your eyes? You – you have been shown, so as to know that Jehovah is the true God there is no other besides him.

What a God of cruelty you skeptically say
Devoting all to destruction who contrary sway
What right has he to define my way
For I am wise and victim I shall not fall prey.

1/24/2007 10:57:00 PM  
Anonymous poe said...

Burn slowly the candle of life.

Miso

Greens

Bake Bread

Take a nap

1/24/2007 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

#1 - what's with the extensive quotes out of the christian bible above? i get tired of seeing that stuff repetitively over ... and over ... and over ... and over ... (snap out of it)

#2 - modern banking is based on usury, the concept and practice of "making money off of making money off of making money off of making money" ... kind of a weird, abstract loop. There's another way to handle money, which is to earn it, spend, give it, or lend it ... all of which can be done without usury, or interest. If you lend money to someone without interest, naturally the relationships between borrower and lender are more important and closer, so maybe a more humane system, who knows. Some cultures have been and are not so crazed by money and "friendlier" with their money.

#3 - How about that new photo of the O'Hare UFO that's popped up? Hmmm. Could be ... let's get another couple out there for comparison ... come on, O'Hare workers, give it up! You know you have them, heh ;-j ...

1/24/2007 11:19:00 PM  
Anonymous blogbart said...

I'm struggling with a long post, which has to be juggled with family, work, forum administration, site development, the new book and the need for some sleep to pull myself back together.

Ok, ok, enough with the excuses already .. hurry up, damn it!

: P

Btw, what did you think of Canadian Defense Minister O'Connor's invocation of "retribution for 9/11" as the reason Canadians are dying in Afghanistan?

“What it means is, if our country is attacked, we are not going to stand blandly by and not do anything about it”, O’Conner said.

Frankly, (ha ha) I'd like to know how much of the sluggish NORAD response and military exercises on 9/11 we can lay at the doorstep of the Canadian military - Minister O'Connor, hmmm?

1/24/2007 11:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hillary Fingered, Then Denies Being Peeping Tom

Clinton CIA Connection

When Geraldo Rivera was at ABC News, 20/20 back in the 70's he interviewed some people that went to a land development in northwest Arkansas, called Holiday Island Suburban Improvement District (appears to have been connected with, MCO Properties, MCO Resorts, MCO Holdings, at one time or another). The people Geraldo interviewed on 20/20 claimed they signed some papers at Holiday Island that they had not read, lost everything they had including homes if they owned homes, cars, businesses, they even lost their identity, as they had no records in government, such as drivers licenses, birth certificates, marriage licenses, etc., after having signed papers at Holiday Island, and never got their day in court, and all they were left with was their Bibles. They also claimed they could work but didn't get to keep their pay if they were paid by check, and those people from Holiday Island kept doing things to them that made them paranoid. Bagabonds without a home is what I think Geraldo called them. Geraldo tried to confront someone that was connected with Holiday Island, about all this, their comment was, no comment. This was obviously no ordinary land scam.

When reading this article please keep in mind the following facts. This article is based on first hand knowledge, as I was at Holiday Island, Arkansas in 1981. I am just corroborating to some degree what has already been documented and aired on ABC, and elaborating, by filling in the blanks that ABC News 20/20, and the people they interviewed on the program in question, did not or possibly could not tell, when they first aired that strange, bizarre program many years ago . This article is also information that was told to me years ago by someone claiming to be with CEPO, and is also based on other sources that are or were in the public domain, etc.

The CEPO program, was a program to detect if a person is lying and/or telling the truth,. It is or was connect with or associated with, monitoring peoples thoughts. The program appears to have started in the early 70's, shorty before Holiday Island came into being. The CIA, obviously, was not afraid of the oversight committees (a dog and pony show for the American people) that were set up to watch over the intelligence community in the 70's when their CEPO program appears to have first come online.

At one time Holiday Island had a fair amount of people touring their property, from all over the country. One would naturally assume that the people Geraldo was interviewing on 20/20, came from various parts of the country, which means that whoever it was, doing things to these people, as they claimed, had a large network of people working with them and/or for them.

Whatever Holiday Island was at the time, or the companies that owned or controlled it, they were not afraid of the Arkansas government or the Federal government coming after them, even after having been exposed on national television by ABC News 20/20 when they stumbled on to them and documented Holiday Island back in the 70's.

In 1981, they were still presenting papers at Holiday Island for those people that they singled out, that appeared to have been written in a secret code or foreign language, (note the people Geraldo interviewed claimed they signed papers at Holiday Island that they had not read) and they told people, something along the lines that implied it was to verify who you are. No one said, if you sign this your giving up your rights, freedoms, liberties, access to the courts, property or volunteering into a black-op experiment to monitor your thoughts, etc., etc.

People would naturally be very suspicious and think it very odd to say the least, if they were signing papers written in english, to buy property, and then someone came up with a paper for them to sign that was written in some sort of secret code or foreign language, that they could not make out, by reading it. There would be very few people that would ever sign such a paper, under those circumstances, of their own free will and accord and no reasonable person would expect, under normal conditions, that anyone presented with such a paper or document, would sign it.

At one time Holiday Island would give you $50.00 and a nights lodging in a motel if you agreed to take a tour of their property. What happened, appears to have gone something like this, for those that were singled out, that is. The paid for motel, office was not opened for the most part, as if they didn't want any other guests or business. The motel didn't appear to have anyone else staying there or very few people, if any, even during the middle of tourist season.

So it appears, they isolated their patsy, that they singled out, for a reason. More than likely, so they could implant them, then continued their fraud and conspiracy to cover that up, in case they were ever exposed, by hypnotizing, tricking their patsy, so they would sign a paper the next day that was written in a foreign language or some sort of secret code that I referred to above, and was documented somewhat on 20/20, on the show in question. When the people they interviewed stated that "they had signed papers at Holiday Island that they had not read".

Shortly after having visited Holiday Island in 1981, I noticed a mark, that looks like a scar, that was caused by a fairly deep cut, on my right hand, below my little finger, but I never cut myself there.

What Holiday Island is today, the companies that owned it, or who owns it today, etc., etc., I don't know, but when that story first broke on 20/20, in the 70's, as you can imagine, it must of been the buzz, in the political circles in Arkansas.

I have a affidavit stating that I saw the ABC News 20/20 program about Holiday Island, Arkansas and what was aired, signed by me many years ago, papers from Holiday Island, MCO Properties, stating that they destroyed papers relating to that transaction to save space, after another request was made a few years later for those documents, they came up with some of the papers they said were destroyed. I also have notarized document sent to CIA Director, rescinding documents in question, stating I would bring up the Fraud issue in regards to this matter. Some of these documents are 25 years old. I will post them on the internet (breakingwire.com) as soon as I can, or show them to anyone in the true alternative press that may be interested in them.

Why am I the only one now talking about this? Did the people interviewed on 20/20 in regards to the program in question, die mysteriously, and under questionable circumstances, like so many other people that the Clinton's were associated with? Arkancided is what some people call it, or CIAcided like others say, because there is not really any difference between the two. Perhaps the reason other people are not talking about this matter is they were driven insane, by the unregulated mind manipulators and their candy store of hidden technology. Perhaps some of their early victims may have been recruited into their network, that I talk about and that is why they are not talking any more?

In light of Mrs., Clinton running for President, and the press covering up for her as they appear to be doing with the documented Holiday Island, ABC News program that was aired, it would be wise and reasonable to assume that anyone covering this up, and not exposing it, may very well be graduates of The Joseph Goebbels School of Broadcasting and Propaganda International.

In Typical Clinton Fashion Hillary Denies Denies Denies

On July,20, 2006, I posted a article on the internet titled "Warrantless Spy Program Monitoring Peoples Thoughts". The next day on July 21, New Daily News published a article titled "Hil frets chips will be put in kids' brains". The article quotes Mrs. Clinton "At the rate that technology is advancing, people will be implanting chips in our children to advertise directly into their brains and tell them what kind of products to buy," The New York Democrat said the country was performing a "massive experiment"..... Mrs. Clinton was speaking at the Kaiser Family Foundation.

Hillary Clinton talking about such a obscure subject as implanting chips in people, just hours after this original post appeared . What would the odds of that happening be?

I hope Mrs. Clinton doesn't fret about me posting this information, like she appeared to have done in the last post. This is not all about her, but she probably thinks it is.

Exposing the Truth

I believe that if this article ever gets exposure, and legs, it will be one of the biggest scandals to rock government, and main stream media in recent history, and that in turn will cause good positive changes, once exposed, and a better world. But its up to the true alternative press to make that happen. So if anyone reading this, can help to get this out, by linking to this article, writing ABC News and asking them why they are sitting on the Holiday Island 20/20 program in question, by calling into talk shows and mentioning this article, or whatever it takes to expose this, let me say, thank you. Also please download this article for it doesn't disappear.

If this story ever does start to break and the controllers follow the same method of operation that they have in the past, they will try to discredit the person putting out the information and/or resort to name calling, instead of trying to disprove the documentation and facts, and/or they will try to focus the publics attention somewhere else by a diversion, like they did when they passed The Military Commissions Act, and came out at the same time with the House page scandal, after having sat on that story for a year or more.

This is today's real breaking story, and talking point of the day. Let us not let them distract us again. This story is so big, I believe they will try something on a more grand scale to divert the publics attention away from themselves. That ought to be interesting.

Just think if Hilliary would become president, she would have the same power Bush now claims, being the Democrats refused to filibuster and their comrades, the Republications, both cut and run on the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Rule of Law, when they passed that piece of garbage legislation titled "The Military Commissions Act", Under this Act The President or others, can use this law on Americans and take away their citizenship, designate them a enemy combatant, or detainee, use secret evidence against them , even though 70 - 90% of the people they have secretly held were documented to be innocent.

If that's not bad enough, now their talking about enacting Hate Crime Laws, that appear to be geared to regulate free speech and the internet. That way, they could pave the way, for the thought police to eventually go after people they determine have wrong thoughts going through their minds, while their thoughts are being electronically intercepted, by the peeping Tom perverts, and lock you up in their detention centers.

Regardless of what The Bush Administration says on alleged changes to their Warrantless Wiretapping, the facts remain that the Eschalon Spy Program has been around long before the War On Terrorism began, intercepting, phone calls, faxes, email, without a warrant, and the Israeli back door into the phone system, that was documented on Fox News when they did a 4 part series on the largest spy ring ever uncovered in America can be used to spy on Americans. So you might ask yourself, being Bush and his comrades already have the capability to monitor phone calls, and are, what were they really up to, saying they did not have to get a warrant as they originally claimed?

If you read the comment section, for the article I first posted on Liberty Post, back in July, titled "Warrantless spy program monitoring peoples thoughts, from President Richard M. Nixon to George W. Bush" you will see where I tried to warn you weeks before they passed The Military Commissions Act, what they were doing with the detainees and where that was headed, before anyone else I know of even saw it coming. So I do have somewhat of a track record. You can find that article and comments I made in that post at: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=150901. The last post I made there on 08-02-06 may have helped spook them enough to change directions. Thank heaven that others, later saw the same situation being set up by the globalist for another of their staged false flag operations, that have been well documented as they try to bring on line their technology, for their police state.

Is that what they did to those people that I wrote about, that 20/20 documented, ex-patriot them by taking away their citizenship? That's the only way that I have ever heard about, from experts, as to how to get records out of government files like the people claimed on the20/20 program in question, when they stated, they did not have records in government files.
There have been many patents issued over the years dealing with mind control, such as patent #3951134, Apparatus and method for remotely monitoring and altering brain waves.

If this technology is ever advanced they will be able to have virtue human slaves.

Ex-Washington Investigative producer for ABC's World News Tonight James Bamford wrote two books on the National Security Agency.

Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, convened a Jan. 20 hearing on the warrantless spying. Among those called as witnesses was James Bamford. Bamford is quoted as telling the committee "Today, the NSA is the largest intelligence agency on earth and by far the most dangerous if not subjected to strict laws and oversight. It has the ability to virtually get into someone's mind."

Are they using mind control technology on some of their detainees they are torturing? If you have the technology why would you torture other human beings, and in the process kill some of them, and drive others insane, as has been reported in the press, unless your some kind of deranged sadist. Is that what is really going on in Git-Mo, and what was really behind congress passing "The Military Commissions Act"?

If I am ever designated as an enemy combatant or any thing along those lines, know in fact, in truth. In reality, I am not a terrorist, nor do I support terrorism, and that in fact, in truth, in reality, I am not a threat to the any legitimate government, nor am I anti-government! What I am is anti-evil. The only way I might possible say different, would be if someone was using mind control on me, or drugs on me, or some other unethical, underhanded trickery or coercion on me.

The only people that might truly consider me a threat of any kind, would be the network or maybe a better term would be secret society that I write about, that has infested our society like a dangerous spreading cancer, that has had 30 some years to build their network up, by using technology, fear, terrorism, stealth, and secrecy that I and others tell you about, recruiting politicians, election officials, judges, military officials, mobsters, and others into their network. Their basically ladies of the night , for the rich that they really work for.

President Woodrow Wilson said in The New Freedom (1913) "Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."

I am just a average Joe, that loves life, it's wonders and beauty, freedom, liberty, privacy, our beloved Republic, and expect good, honest government, and do not like or appreciate other peoples sorry attempt to get me caught up in their ongoing frauds and conspiracies against myself and/or others.

In the official government document; Volume 3 of Air Force 2025, it is stated [By the year 2025:] "The civilian populace will likely accept implanted microscopic chips that allow military members to defend vital national interests." --Chapter 4 of Information Operations: A New War-Fighting Capability: Final Report by the U.S. Department of Defense.

The illegal Iran Contra affair, the secret government within the government, (enter John Poindexter of Iran Contra fame, Director, Information Awareness Office of DARPA, for Bush administration... (Total Information Awareness - a prototype system -- is our answer) was trading guns for drugs and went on for five years before it became known and it involved 1000's of participants. Don't tell me that a large group of people can't keep things like this quiet for a long time, especially with the technology they have, with the help of their comrades in the press and others connected with their network.

Rhodes Scholar, Carroll Quigley, professor of history at the foreign service School of Georgetown University (1910-1977) (William Jefferson Clinton's admitted mentor) wrote in The Anglo-American Establishment, From Rhodes to Cliveden, 1981, Books In Focus, NY, NY on pg. 49; Of the Secret Societies goals, and methods of operation, Quigley writes, "The goals which Rhodes, and Milner sought, and the methods by which they hoped to achieve them were so similar by 1902 that the two are almost indistinguishable. Both sought to unite the world, and above all the English-speaking world, in a federal structure around Britain. Both felt that this goal could best be achieved by a secret band of men united to one another by devotion to the common cause, and by personal loyalty to one another. Both felt that this band should pursue its goal by secret political, and economic influence behind the scenes, and by the control of journalistic, educational, and propaganda agencies..."

Morton H. Halperin, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington, DC was quoted in the AP News wire story, titled - National security takes precedence over personal liberties, rights in time of crisis, September 17th 2001, "The intelligence agencies have a long list of things they want done. They've been waiting for an event to justify them.''

American journalist, three-time Pulitzer Prize winner, Arthur Krock wrote in The New York Times on October 3, 1963, (40 some days before they murdered President Kennedy, in what The House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1979, concluded when they stated "there was a probable conspiracy in the assassination of President Kennedy.) in a article titled, The Intra-Administration War in Vietnam, The C.I.A.'s growth was "likened to a malignancy" which the "very high official was not sure even the White House ("I will smash the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds." -- John F. Kennedy) could control ... any longer." "If the United States ever experiences [an attempt at a coup to overthrow the Government] it will come from the C.I.A. and not the Pentagon." The agency "represents a tremendous power and total unaccountability to anyone."

Michael Welsh
1-24-07

1/24/2007 11:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Ryan said...

Anon 6:47

To understand the Masonic manufactured evangelical movement, along with the manufactured Armageddon that is coming your way, research Darbyism (John Nelson Darby) and Cyrus Scofield, influence of the NIV

1/25/2007 12:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Jeff,
I try not to wake up screaming. I read in the middle of the night. I recently read Tender is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald. Read the classics. The classic authors know all about anxiety.

Perhaps it's time for you to experience The Power of Now as outlined by Eckhart Tolle. We simply must enjoy our "nows", it's all we really have. Be an activist, be a writer, be a role model, but, for God's sake, enjoy your life. It's what we were put here for. The so-called PTB use their knowledge about us to keep us from our happiness. I agree - take time off. I am more than happy to read the RI discussion board and listen to the great songs on the RI 365 radio station. Thanks Jeff.

1/25/2007 12:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unmarked helicopters
Hovering...

Unmarked helicopters
Hovering...

They said it was a weather balloon

1/25/2007 12:24:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Shrub,
It made me laugh, but it didn't make me think (the gaze at my organ and tremble speech from Mrs. 300). So you see, it wasn't prudishness...It just sounded, well, kind of ridiculous, I guess.


Vemrion,

Here's the thing with the notion of "evil people" out there--the deceivers, those nefarious PTB, sure. Evil through and through. But the great majority of those they trick into doing evil would rather not, many times even believing the swindle so deeply that they think they are doing good. A great example of this is the recent poll that found the single most common response to the question "Why did you enlist in the military" was "to do good, to help people in need of it." That is an amazing story, when you think about it--the very people who are the foot soldiers in an indefensible, immoral war believe they're doing the right thing.

While everyone is ultimately responsible for their own actions, the role played by those who plant notions in the heads of the gullible (such as Saddam was behind 9/11) is crucial in how the best of intentions end up paving roads to nasty places. It's not so much that human nature is corrupt as it is corruptible.

Btw, the "Why is pot still illegal?" and the income inequality posts at your blog were great. (And you were also dead on about how being forced to play acoustically is never quite the same as the full throttle experience--what's a drummer to do?)


Mark,

Thanks. That Austrian currency experiment was an awesome reference--I'm going to follow it (and finally either find the money to buy your book or force my local library to do so, whichever is the path of least resistance.) Your bio-regional concept is very appealing--thanks for the input.


Sounder, foist lastus & the Anonymi,

Those were also useful comments that helped clear my head somewhat--thanks!

1/25/2007 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Evil People

I think evil people are the adult children of abuse
If we think we know about George Herbert Walker Bush
And his shenanigans and his reputation
Then how did his oldest son endure his childhood
Especially with a mother like that

Was George Jr. pushed and prodded
And corrected and coerced
Perhaps like George Herbert Walker Bush’s other sons
Neil, who looted the Savings and Loans
And Jeb, who helped steal the 2000 election

And that’s not to mention his other son, Marvin
Who was so well placed in the WTC tragedy
He served on the board of the Security Company
The one who had access to the towers by day and by night
Perhaps they know how the towers were demolished so easily

Skull and Bones comes next in our looking and checking
What’s that about? Skull and Bones – the death cult that
George Jr. was forced to attend in his senior year at Yale
The senior year, not the freshman year like other recruits
This hazing takes the soul from a man

In fact, he’s forced to sell his soul to the devil
It’s the entryway into the death cult of Skull and Bones
Just follow the yellow brick road and easily find
That not only was George Jr. involved with death
But so was our dear friend John Kerry

There are those persistent rumors about Kerry
Something about young girls in France
The story’s murky to say the least
And also how about the rumor that he’s Jewish
But he decided to be a Catholic

Make your own decision, but follow the leads
Simply looking into two main categories
The Bush Family Dynasty
And the Skull and Bones mentality
Might just explain George Jr’s ironic insanity

1/25/2007 12:52:00 AM  
Blogger foist lastus said...

I couldn't go to sleep because i kept on thinking about the title art - at work i first saw it and blew it up to 8 x 11 printout poster on my cubical, I was trying to go to sleep but kept on thinking about it and realised a double meaning to "Wake up Screaming" it relates to Gurdjieff by way of Ouspensky logic of wakening up the psychic being , self awareness and theatrical screaming exercises. I have a degree in theatre and have studyied voice technique and throat singing. It all ties together, it works, its a way to wake up and be vital! When was the last time you screamed for pleasure?

1/25/2007 02:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since we have come to him to work for him.
Lucifer/Satan has given us knowledge and understanding way beyond what we ever had before, even though we were always obsessed with learning and study.

There are those in high positions who do not want any of you to have this knowledge.

There are a lot of people who don’t take this seriously.Their astral eyes are in reality, blinded by their arrogance.

They cannot see the answers and that the power lies within.

When the soul is correctly opened, all of this can be blatantly seen.

In truth, we are in the LAST days of the Age of Pisces and there will be DRASTIC changes. Exactly what these changes will be remains OPEN.

The Age of Aquarius will not be upon us though, until the middle of the next century.

We know we come back as CHILDREN as there are not many other options.We teach and learn while we are on earth.

Life is like a merry go round!

Nihilistic Savages
who live for today,
Can't harm themselves,
Cause you know what they say,
Nothing really matters anyway!!!!

wild and free
sexymaenads

1/25/2007 03:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Non-conformity is a major part of Satanism. Those who conform are sheep and will never have the strength to think for themselves enough to see the truth and evolve to a higher level. One cannot conform if one wishes to empower one’s self. One must completely know one’s self in order to evolve and effectively practice magick and not follow the herd.

Every problem can be solved with the right kind of knowledge. Knowledge also eliminates fear and is the key to power.

FEAR=FAILURE


wild&free
sexymaenads

1/25/2007 03:29:00 AM  
Anonymous lucky said...

two things - unconnected:the budhists have got it right eliminate desire and you will eliminate evil. second, i was thinking, after reading an artical about life extension and the possibility of eternal life thro' advances in medical knowledge- if it were possible to live for ever would one be able to love- aren't love and death inexcrebly linked?

1/25/2007 04:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Being human guarantees us a ticket on the ferris wheel of life.

As the wheel turns we swoop down to earth to live out our physical lives, all the while learning, doing, and teaching.

Then as the wheel turns around, we ascend to the spiritual realms to further our education to prepare for the next revolution.

Some think of human existance as an infinite loop with twists and turns to make the ride more interesting.

All soon realize that when we enter the earth plane we do it as a child.

Hear it again the next time you come back here it will be as a child.
Just as you were the last time and the time before that.

What if you returned the next time and were denied the wisdom and knowledge?

The opposition fears this manifestation of the Force
whom we call Lucifer as once we perceive it we have no need for their mysticism and deceit.

Very simple, you called
attention to yourself
and the FORCE answered.

Sabrina

1/25/2007 04:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Many physical ailments are brought about by repressed emotions. Some of these end in death. These have a very detrimental effect upon one’s soul and spiritual being as well.

The New Age movement, Wicca, many eastern religions (Such as Modern Buddhism, which have been Judeo/Christianized),
and others all advocate denial of expressing so-called "baser" emotions.

This leads to poor mental health and worse. Catholic priests are a blatant example of the consequences of sexual repression.

Sexual repression is about the worst, as the sex drive is as powerful as and is tied directly to the life force, it doesn’t just go away.

Anything that is repressed comes out in warped, distorted, and unhealthy ways.

Many problems would be avoided if people would vent their feelings and stop repressing them.


By denying anger, hatred, jealousy, and other so-called "negative" emotions, one is laying a pattern for serious problems down the road.

People who claim to love, love, and love, and deny their anger and hatred, take on that artificial alien deadpan smile that is so common amongst Christians in the advanced stages of Christianity.

Inside, these people are extremely unbalanced and are literally like grenades with the pins pulled, just waiting to explode, either turning their pent up anger out on others or in upon themselves.

This is extremely unhealthy.

Yet, they consistently excuse the hatred and wrathful behavior of the false god they worship.
This sets the stage for serious mental illness.

Another common teaching is denial of MATERIALISM.

The reason for this is so wealth and power can be kept in the hands of a few.
The very same people at the top who work to remove spiritual knowledge and replace it with Christianity and other lies.

Material possessions make life more enjoyable and are an extension of ourselves.


There should be a healthy balance between spiritualism and materialism. The merging of the material with the spiritual is the key to attaining the godhead of the soul.

Sabrina

1/25/2007 04:53:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Deut.said;

Or did god attempt to come to take a nation to himself out of the midst of another nation with provings, with signs and with miracles and with war and with a strong hand and with an outstretched arm and with great fearsomeness like all that Jehovah your god has done for you in Egypt before your eyes?

'Jehovah your god', --you own me, I own you.

Sounds like a confidence game to me. god did this for you, now worship me.

God is beyond categories and has no need to play coercion games.

I find it more inviting to consider that God created us for Life and LOVE rather than an ignominious death. This god of threats somehow holds no appeal for me.

Foist lastus,

I am not into guru types, however I do enjoy Eckhart Tolle and can validate your recommendation.

and
"aggressive ambidexterity (like drawing, writing) will reveal new truths."
Seems to have worked for da Vinci, thanks for the idea.

1/25/2007 06:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Raul said...

I'm going through Trance-formation of America right now. The amount and variety of famous people accused of complicity in this would lend a quick diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia, but as terrible and bizarre a story as it is there are just as equally terrible and bizarre evidences for it.

Those that haven't seen this GNN promo for a never completed project should check this out:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7978856855951271705

Stephen Marshall (I think) of GNN visits with Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien and tries to verify parts of the story. One of the most macabre claims in the book is verified in the video.

One of the people she accuses of complicity in this business is Kris Kristofferson the actor/musician and , reading this, I remembered that it is his arms that Sinead O'Connor collapses into after singing (in the video Jeff blogged about and linked too).

Also, with the claims that the Wizard of Oz is used as a major programming theme, it makes the synchronization of Pink Floyd's The Dark Side of the Moon that much more interesting.

Finally, maybe we can organize ourselves into investigative action groups that can get together on whatever topics that we're interested in and engage in original and completely new research--instead of simply discussing the work of others (not that this is bad, but eventually, if we're really serious, we need to break our own stories). Call people, do interviews, and conduct original research. For staters, I'd like to get Scalia's daughter on record as to whether or not she went on that hunting trip with her dad and Cheney and, if so, how she got back. This is a simple way to shed a lot of light on one specific situation that impacts quite a lot. Jeff, I think you blogged about Scalia's "daughter" not being accounted for, but I can't seem to find it.

Here's Jeff's blog on some other claims that appear to have been verified:

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/11/dick-cheneys-other-big-secret.html#comments

1/25/2007 06:37:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

By the way, the 'code' that creates disparity in understanding is to create systems that place being before consciousness, (as do current expressions of both religion and science). Knowing full well that the opposite is true, thereby deriving immense leverage over the unwashed masses.

1/25/2007 06:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Raul said...

After watching it again after some years, I realize that I should warn that the video is EXTREMELY graphic and shows close-ups of Cathy's genitalia.

1/25/2007 06:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Inquiring mind said...

I have a sincere and serious question for the personality tagged as “Iridescent Cuttlefish”.

Are you really such a desperately obsequious and pathetically panting sycophant for the approval of the totally undynamic duo that is made up of the psychopathic fecal mouth Richtard and bush brained Schlubgeddown as you seem to be, or is that just some bizarrely kinky form of role playing? Could even the saddest, seediest, loneliest, nerdiest and neediest of bloggy geeks really seek the approval of the sickeningly slimebucket-dwelling coelocanth that is they/it as you would have us believe?

Or are you merely a participant in some debasingly freakish form of mind control cult?

Do you actually hold down a real job and have a real family with real children as you claim? If so, how do you possibly find the time to participate to any significant extent in that real life and compose and type up the pages upon pages of predominantly pusillanimous, painstakingly pedantic, not to mention ponderously prolix profusion of paragraphs that constitute your purple prose, complete with extensive html code, and which seem to stretch from here to ad nauseum?

[That last, redundant “to” was a Latinate pun, tyvm].

Perhaps you dictate your posts to a secretary, hmmm?

Are you even a male, as you claim? If so, you seem pretty gay. The tone of your writing is quite feminine (no offense to the women out there). Besides, did you know that both iridescent and cuttlefish are girls names?

What is up with that?

Please try to limit your answer to under 5,000 words or less. And no German, please. My doctor says I am deutschophobic.

Although I think it is just my allergy to seafood.

1/25/2007 07:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Evil is a necessity in, and one of the supporters of the manifested universe. It is a necessity for progress and evolution, as night is necessary for the production of Day, and Death for that of Life -
- that man may live for ever.

After all the earth is one big bloody altar where every living being must be sacrificed.

.................
gwb

We must speak the truth about terror. Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September 11th - malicious lies that attempt to shift blame away from the terrorists themselves, away from the guilty. (his message SHUT UP or Gitmo)


Impatient of restraint, longing for the return of the dark ages, the Church frowns at the diabolical manifestations, and indicates what she would do to their champions had she but the power of old. Were it not for the self-evident fact that she herself is placed by science on trial, and that she is handcuffed, she would be ready at a moment's notice to repeat in the nineteenth century the revolting scenes of former days of burnings of heretics and libraries.

Now theProtestant clergy, so furious is their common hatred toward any kind of spiritualism, that a secular paper very truly remarks:
"They seem willing to undermine the public faith in all the spiritual phenomena of the past, as recorded in the Bible, if they can only see this pestilent Modern heresy stabbed to the heart."



........................


Today in the same way that COINTELPRO brands opposition to the Bush Reich's global conquest agenda as either a "cult" or "conspiracy theory", the Catholic Church labeled opposition "heresy".



"Let him be ANATHEMA . . . who shall say that human Sciences ought to be pursued in such a spirit of freedom that one may be allowed to hold as true their assertions even when opposed to revealed doctrines." -- Ecumenical Council of 1870.


Bush view

"Over time it's going to be important for nations to know they will be held accountable for inactivity," he said. "You're either with us or against us in the fight against terror."

No WONDER Bush insists on trials by military tribunals for suspected
terrorists, trials in which virtually none of the evidence will be REVEALED (secret)
to the defendants or their Bush-appointed defense attorneys.

It's absurd to claim that such trials will have any similarity to
those at Nuremburg after WWII.

The accused Nazis were given every
opportunity to mount a full defense and were directly confronted by hundreds
of witnesses for the prosecution who they were able to fully cross-examine.

There is one very striking similarity to Nuremberg however. Like
today's accused terrorists, the Nazis were funded and supplied by some of
Americas' wealthiest businessmen including GW Bush's grandfathers who
operated Wall Street banks, shipping companies and other businesses as
fronts for the Nazis.
Osama bin Laden, the Taliban and the largest sources of financing
for terrorism are also intimately connected to the Bush family and to Wall
Street, to some of Americas' leading corporations and to members of both
Bush administrations.

.........................

Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob
on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it
is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't
want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany.
That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who
determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people
along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a
parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have
to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for
lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in
any country.

Hermann Goering at Nuremburg
................
George Orwell
In a time of universal deceit, TELLING THE TRUTH is a revolutionary act.

.................
Supreme Court Justice Robert H. Jackson,
The Supreme Court In the American System of Government (1955)
I cannot say that our country could have no central police without
becoming totalitarian, but I can say with great conviction that it cannot be
totalitarian without a centralized national police.
A national police will have enough on enough people, even if it
does not elect to prosecute them, so that it will find no opposition to its
policies.
....................
Paperclip

After its founding following WWII, the CIA was
initially staffed with thousands of former Nazis who were experts in
propaganda, biological warfare, eugenics and social control as recently
admitted by the CIA itself.
For excellent published works on the CIA/Nazi connection read:

Trading With The Enemy by Charles Higham

The Secret War Against the Jews by
Loftus and Arrons

and Blowback by Christopher Simpson.

...................
UPI 9/20/2000
CIA says Nazi general was
intelligence source
COLLEGE PARK, Md., Sept. 20 (UPI) --
The Central Intelligence Agency has for the first time confirmed
that a high-ranking Nazi general placed his anti-Soviet spy ring at the
disposal of the United States during the early days of the Cold War. The
National Archives said in a release Wednesday that the CIA had filed an
affidavit in U.S. District Court" relationship
with German General Reinhard Gehlen that it has kept secret for 50
years...The CIA's announcement marks the first acknowledgement by that
agency that it had any relationship with Gehlen and opens the way for
declassification of records about the relationship," the National Archives
said Gehlen was Hitler's senior intelligence officer on the Eastern Front
during the war and transferred his expertise and contacts to the U.S. as
World War II reached its climax. While Gehlen's relationship with U.S.
intelligence during the 1940s and 1950s has been the topic of some five
books over the years, the eventual release of CIA documents pertaining to
the development of his European spy ring could shed new light on the origins
of the Cold War and early U.S. espionage efforts against Moscow. Gehlen's
network of agents in Europe - including many with Nazi backgrounds who were
bailed out of prisoner of war camps by U.S. intelligence officers - was
known as the Gehlen Organization and received millions of dollars in funding
from the U.S. until 1956. The CIA's acknowledgement of its dealings with
Gehlen came in a response to an appeal of a Freedom of Information Act
request by researcher Carl Oglesby, the National Archives said. The agency
pledged to release its records on the general in accordance with the Nazi
War Crimes Disclosure Act.

................
San Francisco Bay Guardian May 7, 2001
"Honest and idealist ... enjoys good food and wine ...unprejudiced
mind ..."That's how a 1952 Central Intelligence Agency assessment described
Nazi ideologue Emil Augsburg, an officer at the infamous Wannsee Institute,
the SS think tank involved in planning the Final Solution. Augsburg's SS
unit performed "special duties," a euphemism for exterminating Jews and
other "undesirables" during the Second World War. Although he was wanted in
Poland for war crimes, Augsburg managed to ingratiate himself with the U.S.
CIA, which employed him in the late 1940s as an expert on Soviet affairs.
Recently released CIA records indicate that Augsburg was among a rogue's
gallery of Nazi war criminals recruited by U.S. intelligence shortly after
Germany surrendered to the Allies.

............
Washington Post Sunday, March 18, 2001
By George Lardner Jr., Staff Writer
Page A04
CIA Declassifies Its Records
On Dealings With Ex-Nazis
Documents May Give Clues About Obstacles in Hunt for War Criminals

The CIA is finally getting around to declassifying the records of
its dealings with former Nazi spies after World War II. It says it has found
251 boxes and 2,901 file folders of potentially relevant documents --
apparently more than 250,000 pages -- and that it will take about two years
to complete work on them.

do not hold your breath waiting
................
Daily News 4/28/2001
Secret Files Show U.S. Used Nazis
...The documents show that high-ranking Nazis--including death
doctor Josef Mengele and Adolf Eichmann--were coddled by American and Soviet
spymasters as World War II ended. "The real winners of the Cold War were
Nazi criminals," Justice Department official Eli Rosenbaum said. "East and
West became so rapidly focused on challenging each other that they lost
their will to pursue Nazi perpetrators. They even deemed some of the
criminals to be useful allies."
.....
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
George Santayana (1863–1952), U.S. philosopher, poet.


Freyja

1/25/2007 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Raul who is a PRUDE said...
WARNING!!!!!!
After watching it again after some years, I realize that I should warn that the video is EXTREMELY graphic and shows close-ups of Cathy's genitalia. ohhhhhhhhhh, might get a hardon

Hahahahaha you must think it can bite and has teeth!!!


"Inanna the Goddess of Love and War
reclined against the fig tree;

When Inanna lay against the fig tree her cunt was glorious to observe;
Delighted at her glorious cunt, the young lady, Inanna, praised herself."

...........................
El sabeur (the resigned ) - This is the vulva which, having admitted the member, submits patiently to all its whims and movements. It is also said that this vulva is strong enough to suffer resignedly the most violent and prolonged coitus. If it were assaulted a hundred times it would not be vexed or annoyed. It will show the same patience if it has to do with several members who visit it successively.

This kind of vagina is found in women of a glowing temperament. If they only knew how to do it, they would not allow the man to dismount, nor his member to retire for a single moment.

Thanks for the laugh

We like to party
sexymaenads

1/25/2007 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

After watching it again after some years, I realize that I should warn that the video is EXTREMELY graphic and shows close-ups of Cathy's genitalia.

I won't look because I must repress my desires, but tell me...what kind of Vulva does she have according the descriptive list provided in the last thread?

1/25/2007 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another thing, about the truth setting us free.

RESPONSIBILITY to the RESPONSIBLE

The so called moral right xtians can pass all kinds of stupid and redundant laws.As the laws on the books are already in place in most cases


ENFORCING THEM IS ANOTHER MATTER!!!!!

WE WILL FIGHT IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE TO REMAIN FREE, or die in our DESIRE to be FREE!!!!

WILL YOU!

There are many who lack the education concerning world history, the INQUISITION, and the church's control of life and government in the dark/middle ages. These people know next to nothing of the truth. They believe what they are told and are too unmotivated or lazy to research for themselves.

Knowledge is everything; this is why xians prey on the ignorant and illiterate.

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.

Xians are forever trying to wrest control of the legal system, perverting it, like they do everything else, using it as another instrument to deny ALL of us our freedom, to enslave everyone, destroy lives and ruin what others have sacrificed everything for.

When they seize control, through whatever means, legal, illegal; however, makes no difference to them, they work diligently to maim, torture, murder and destroy anyone who is even suspected of disagreeing with their sick doctrines.

Their reign was during the "Dark Ages" To find out if something is good or evil, all one has to do is give it power.

Here, the xian religion speaks for itself!

Sabrina

1/25/2007 10:21:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Inquiring mind,

That was very funny. Interestingly, the thing that most upsets you about me--I mean aside from my purple fecundity--is that I don't really do that "ram your keyboard up your ass" thing that you yourself have just engaged in with me. I know it pisses Shrub off sometimes, too, but you gotta be true to your nature, right? Let me see if I can parse your logic here a little. I'm effeminate because of my lack of invective? So, your manly righteous anger is the way to go then? That's the next step up in our long, slow evolution?

It seems to me we've tried that way before--do we really need another John Wayne? Still, you do have a point: you are what you is. And I'm thinkin' you remind me, in my girlish imagination, of that Spermageddon poster who teaches German while hating all things German. Anger on, manly man, anger on.

As to your internet-baby you must be a disinfo agent insinuation, well angry man, this is just a side thing--I write 4 hours a day at my real gig, dabble here and occasionally at a few other blogs when the kids are at school or asleep, and even manage to keep my wife reasonably satisfied (insofar as it's within the power of any man to do so--go ask sexymaenads how that works.)

Peace, dinosaur, peace. Your time will come again.

1/25/2007 10:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

I know it pisses Shrub off sometimes, too, but you gotta be true to your nature, right?

It doesn't piss me off.....I swear. It is perplexing because it seems almost non-human....like a fundamentalist who is unmoved by anything I might say or do. I find that unflappable nature in anybody rather unnerving, but I've learned to accept it and respect it about you.

1/25/2007 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous marmot said...

Jeff

Your posts are always worth waiting for. Thank you,,, and stay healthy!

1/25/2007 11:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey everyone. I know Jeff appreciates your kind thoughts. He's feeling pretty run down right now, so I'm forcing him to turn off his computer and take some Quiet Time for the next few days.

- Jeff's wife (...if it really is me...)

1/25/2007 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

To elaborate further on my point about the Hunts, here is a summarized biography of Haroldson Lafayette Hunt, Nelson Bunker and Lamar Hunt's father.

This guy was quite a pip...and so were/are his children.

Haroldson Lafayette Hunt was born in Fayette County, Illinois, on 17th February, 1889. After a brief formal education he went travelling. In 1912 he settled in Arkansas, where he ran a cotton plantation.

In 1921 Hunt moved to El Dorado where he became a lease broker. He eventually discovered oil and by 1925 was extremely wealthy. He suffered some business reverses but in 1930 he obtained his own pipeline, the Panola, to run oil from the East Texas field. Two years later Hunt Production Company had 900 wells in East Texas.

Hunt established the Placid Oil Company in 1935. The following year he acquired the Excelsior Refining Company in Rusk County and changed the name to Parade Refining Company. He also established his headquarters in Dallas, Texas. In 1948 a newspaper reported that Hunt was the richest man in the United States. It estimated the value of his oil properties at $263 million and the daily production of crude from his wells at 65,000 barrels.

Hunt developed extreme conservative political opinions. In 1951 he launched the Douglas MacArthur for President campaign. Along with two of his sons, Nelson Bunker Hunt and Lamar Hunt, he set-up a right-wing intelligence network, the International Committee for the Defence of Christian Culture.

Hunt also funded two right-wing radio shows, Facts Forum and Life Line. He used these radio stations to support the anti-communist campaign of Joseph McCarthy. He also helped to finance the political career of Lyndon B. Johnson. A member of the John Birch Society, Hunt was a close friend of Edwin Walker.

A strong opponent of Fidel Castro, Hunt helped to fund the Cuban Revolutionary Council, a group that worked with the Mafia and the Central Intelligence Agency in an effort to remove Castro from power.

President John F. Kennedy became concerned about people like Hunt who used tax exemptions to spread right-wing propaganda. According to Joachim Joesten Hunt had an annual income of $30,000,000 but paid little in income tax. In 1963 Kennedy talked about plans to submit to Congress a tax reform plan designed to produce about $185,000,000 in additional revenues by changes in the favourable tax treatment until then accorded the gas-oil industry.

Some conspiracy theorists believe that Hunt was involved in the death of President John F. Kennedy. It was claimed that the day before the assassination, Jim Brading visited Hunt in his office in Dallas. Brading had links to Carlos Marcello, another figure suspected of being involved in the killing. Brading was arrested in the Dal-Tex building in the Dealey Plaza soon after the assassination took place, but was released soon afterwards.

Madeleine Brown later gave an interview on the television show, A Current Affair where she claimed that on the 21st November, 1963, she was at the home of Clint Murchison. Others at the meeting included Hunt, J. Edgar Hoover, Clyde Tolson, John J. McCloy and Richard Nixon. At the end of the evening Lyndon B. Johnson arrived. Brown said in this interview: "Tension filled the room upon his arrival. The group immediately went behind closed doors. A short time later Lyndon, anxious and red-faced, reappeared. I knew how secretly Lyndon operated. Therefore I said nothing... not even that I was happy to see him. Squeezing my hand so hard, it felt crushed from the pressure, he spoke with a grating whisper, a quiet growl, into my ear, not a love message, but one I'll always remember: "After tomorrow those goddamn Kennedys will never embarrass me again - that's no threat - that's a promise."

Brown's account was supported by former CIA agent Robert D. Morrow who wrote in the book, First Hand Knowledge: How I participated in the CIA-Murder of President Kennedy, "On the eve of the assassination, Hoover and Nixon attended a meeting together at the Dallas home of oil baron Clint Murchison. Among the subjects discussed at this meeting were the political futures of Hoover and Nixon in the event President Kennedy was assassinated."

Haroldson Lafayette Hunt, who was married three times and fathered 14 children, died on November 29, 1974.

1/25/2007 12:34:00 PM  
Anonymous marmot said...

As a Christian I am very interested in Biblical Eschatology---the Old Testament book of Daniel, and the New Testament book of Revelation, in particular. Yet as a believer in the inspiration and authority of Scripture, I am confident that the enormously popular Darby-ist inspired dispenstional pre-trib rapture doctrine is unsciptural; I base this upon Scripture itself.

For those taken in by, or interested in the doctrine of imminency (that is, the idea that Jesus Christ may return at any moment to rapture His Church) espoused by the dogmatic “Left-Behind” crowd, I’d recommend Marvin Rosenthal’s Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Church. He Scripturally refutes this unbiblical doctrine.


Also, if the post above is truely Jeff's wife... Good for you! Keep your Husband and Family healthy! And I'd echo something someone else said above... we really would understand if Jeff took a hiatus... the board will go on without him, and we appreciate Jeff and realize his family, work, and health are priorities infinitely more important than RI...

1/25/2007 12:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

How bizarre...one of my posts and one of Sabrina's posts disappeared.

High Weirdness, I tell you....High Weirdness.

1/25/2007 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Inquiring mind said...

Dearest Cuttlefishie:

Thou dost protest too much, methinks. My riposte to your interminable posts was offered in a distinctly light-hearted vein, and was quite polite in its choice of words.

Yet, like the classsic movie policeman, secret agent, you accuse me of anger, and all manner of turpitude, all the while spouting rather gross obscenities yourself, which I have rather studiously eschewed in my attempt to prick your purplishly prosaic balloon.

Rock on, dude. Perhaps you could by an English thesaurus. Or maybe a German-English dictionary....to assist you with the mother tongue hereabouts, so that you might in future be able to avoid sinking into the pit of gross obscenity and name calling.

Say hi to the 'wife.'

1/25/2007 01:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Gay sheep man said...

'Gay Sheep Man' Fights Back

Guardian Unlimited, 25 January 2007
By James Sturcke / Science 01:10pm

More news on the State of Oregon University researcher Charles Roselli, more commonly known - at least in certain British media circles - as "Gay sheep man".

Over Christmas, some readers may have spotted the Sunday Times article Science told: hands off gay sheep, which documented Dr Roselli's attempts to "cure" homosexual rams of their unproductive tendencies.

Except that wasn't his aim at all. There has since been a concerted effort by the researchers to correct any inaccuracies in the reporting, with that effort including enlisting the support of the Time magazine blogger Andrew Sullivan.

That much has already been documented by the Guardian's Bad Science writer, Ben Goldacre.

But while much of the gay news agenda has moved over to the Catholic adoption row, the New York Times has a detailed and gripping sheep update on Dr Roselli's fightback. Headline: "Of Gay Sheep, Modern Science, and the Perils of Bad Publicity."

Apart from enlisting the help of Sullivan and an unnamed scientist who blogs under the name emptypockets, the researcher and his employers have been responding to 20,000 outraged emails.

1/25/2007 02:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

We like to party

I hear this term thrown around a lot. It appears to have multiple meanings. What exactly do you mean by it when you say it here?

1/25/2007 02:48:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

My, my, Inquiring--aren't you just the picture of restraint now? How genteel, even (careful with that one, in my thesaurus it gives some vague hints about effete, and you know how faggoty that is, master of the mother tongue that you are...) But rock on I will, and thankee kindly, Ma'am.

Shrub, I'm mostly human, I assure you. No implants, no cyborg surgeries--none of that, although my doctor did say something about putting some kind of exotic metal components in my neck for some reason, so maybe I will be able to just plug in one day.

For those interested in a nice, blood-curdling analysis of these end-times fakirs, try Joe Bageant's What the 'Left Behind' Series Really Means--A Whore That Sitteth on Many Waters, the intro to which follows:

"Jesus merely raised one hand a few inches and a yawning chasm opened in the earth, stretching far and wide enough to swallow all of them. They tumbled in, howling and screeching, but their wailing was soon quashed and all was silent when the earth closed itself again."
-- From Glorious Appearing by Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins

"The best thing about the Left Behind books is the way the non-Christians get their guts pulled out by God."
-- 15-year old fundamentalist fan of the Left Behind series


That is the sophisticated language and appeal of America’s all-time best selling adult novels celebrating the ethnic cleansing of non-Christians at the hands of Christ. If a Muslim were to write an Islamic version of the last book in the Left Behind series, Glorious Appearing, and publish it across the Middle East, Americans would go beserk. Yet tens of millions of Christians eagerly await and celebrate an End Time when everyone who disagrees with them will be murdered in ways that make Islamic beheading look like a bridal shower. Jesus -- who apparently has a much nastier streak than we have been led to believe -- merely speaks and "the bodies of the enemy are ripped wide open down the middle." In the book Christians have to drive carefully to avoid "hitting splayed and filleted corpses of men and women and horses" Even as the riders’ tongues are melting in their mouths and they are being wide open gutted by God’s own hand, the poor damned horses are getting the same treatment. Sort of a divinely inspired version of "Fuck you and the horse you rode in on."

This may be some of the bloodiest hate fiction ever published, but it is also what tens of millions of Americans believe is God’s will. It is approximately what everyone in the congregation sitting around me last Sunday at my brother’s church believes. Or some version of it. How can anyone acquire and hold such notions? Answer: The same way you got yours and I got mine. Conditioning. From family and school and society, but from within a different American caste than the one in which you were raised. And from things stamped deep in childhood...


Joe's current offering is also another blazer which deals with the eternal question we've been entertaining here: Our National Sociopathy, the opening salvo of which goes:

There is a dark side to any state induced oblivion -- in this case, our national and international sociopathy, our unacknowledged inner and outer violence.

I think a lot of you guys who've been digging into the dark & scary subject of ritual abuse might find Joe's take of some interest, even though he seems to downplay its significance in the larger picture. It's always in deciding where to put the framework of that larger picture that determines what you see.

1/25/2007 02:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Cuttle,

That Joe Bageant article was nothing short of fantastic. I like that guy.....he reminds me of myself.

Nuclear War, Baby, Nuclear War!!!!

1/25/2007 03:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: O'Hare UFO - why aren't there more images? Good question - I used to live in Chicago, and there were ALWAYS cars lined up on the shoulder on Irving Park Road at the south end, with loads of people taking video and stills of planes. While the "homeland security" issues may have put a damper on this, I can't imagine people gave up that easily and no one was "looking up" at the United Terminal. Although it is at the opposite end of the airport, you can easily see the tower from there because it's as flat as a pancake, like the rest of the Chicago area. You can see the Sears Tower from out there, and this object was much nearer.

1/25/2007 03:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Richtard said...

IC, you might want to check out Skipping Towards Armageddon by Michael Standaert. Standaert focuses attention on an important, and usually overlooked , aspect of Lahaye's doom & gloom career; namely his stock portfolio.
It's hard to see the point of a huge investment portfolio if the world ends next Tuesday; but prophecy profiteering is rife through the Lahaye empire, and Lahaye has made a mountain of money out of his molehill of morality.

1/25/2007 03:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Inquiring Mind" is non-sequitur to the point of this blog and its comments. It's just a very shallow attempt to create egoistic dissension and rattle cages for seemingly no purpose. Anyone who bothers to start to go insulting someone out of the blue is off track to topics at hand.

I just wanted to voice a motion for ignoring "Inquiring mind", realizing that ignoring ad hominem attacks really does a body good. I don't plan to answer you, so go away, back into the anonymous aether where you will balance out with me.

===========

Thanks, Shrubageddon, for the Hunt link and info.

Thanks, Raul, for the 12 minute GNN film.

And thanks all real inquiring minds out there...

1/25/2007 04:01:00 PM  
Anonymous chillin said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGwcz_DzyyI

Parental Discretion is Advised

1/25/2007 04:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Silverfox said...

Well IC...

There's always some element of risk whenever you "proposition" certain kinds of people, I'm afraid.

Must have been that satisfying "genitalia" quip that went with it that's inspired a few to try and screw you over..hmmm? LOL

As to your legitimate question, however, whether you realize it or not, by that sort of a social definition, you’d already be in the realm of a quite different system of beliefs; stepping well beyond the usual self-centered conventions and convictions that actually create all the fear, mistrust, tension and animosity that form the negative dynamics behind our current ones.

You cannot merely speculate on just any means to get to such a positive point or outlook to begin with. That isn't the starting point but rather the more difficult goal that must first be reached.

People would have to both honestly believe and trust in the existence of such a possibility and just as surely and solidly in both the basic goodness of their own nature as well as that of others in order to “reveal” its more powerful and positive dynamics in reality instead.

That could only be accomplished by accepting the undertaking alone on its own terms as being worthwhile and sufficient in and of itself NOT in any of its potential outcomes or requiring them as “proofs”, (which is the only way any genuine “beliefs” or system of them can come into being).

So those who believe and practice them simply for their intrinsic value themselves become all the evidence that is necessary. Those who follow them actually become the “outcome” themselves in turn. It is an entirely human and psychological proposition.

So don’t be so unwittingly obsessed or preoccupied by the life and world of business or confining your thoughts within its limited transactional patterns and terms that you are at a loss to think about such things in any other way. The real business of life is by no means a business to begin with. “Poor bankers and politicians” indeed! LMAO

Whatever are we going to do with all those piteous self-serving excuses for human beings provided they don’t manage to kill us all first or worse yet turn us into even better killers ourselves by foolishly trying to grapple with them yet again on their own bloody terms?

We are approaching a parting of the ways. What got us here is “history” as the jargon goes. Any more of the same will turn us into just that too.

We have to quietly walk away from a game that isn't and never was our own any way we can before we lose all our marbles, figuratively and literally, most particularly our mutual stake in that very big and fragile blue one that's getting precariously closer to the edge of the table while everyone is busy bickering.

1/25/2007 04:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

as a more comic trailer to 'chillin' and his entry, with the same rap theme:

GEORGE BUSH RAP: Curious GWB
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ONMQjrMnB6M

'eh, heh, heh, heh, heh!'

It's a quagermire to the criticalizers!

1/25/2007 05:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Inquiring mind said...

Dear Cuddlefishie, fishie, fishie, fish....

When you so fondly wrote "ram your keyboard up your ass" to me, even though you may have tried to couch your projected sexual violence as a hypothetical, and one falsely attributed to the "other" you so hypocritically attempted to slime, I really do think you have sunk into that abyss of invective you so self-righteously claim to abhor. Indeed, one of sexual violence even.

Some model society that would be which you proffer us.

No thanks.

Then in a later post you pontificate about "our unacknowledged inner and outer violence."

Methinks you've got a bit of acknowledging of your own to do, bucko.

Perhaps you ought better apply some introspective Windex to the walls of that glass house you inhabit, Cuddles, before you throw feces at someone elses, hmmmm?

1/25/2007 05:39:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Actually, I said that just because I don't go in for that ramming business...Peace & Love, Dude.

1/25/2007 06:46:00 PM  
Anonymous slimebucket-dwelling coelocanth said...

Thanks IC.

The following is cut & paste, so feel free to scroll.

"One of the most unsettling things about this country is that the following people are considered perfectly sane by American standards: Dick Cheney, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Deepak Chopra, Bill Clinton, Oprah Winfrey, Pat Robertson, Grover Nordquist, and Michelle Malkin. See anybody in that list even remotely normal? Every one of them lives in an egomaniacal la-la-land of his or her imagination and manages to get paid to do it. Believe me when I say that just about any face you see on your television or in the newspaper is a nutjob. I used to interview such freaks for a living. Of course, given that American journalists and interviewers have become mindless suck-asses, I understand that I may have a credibility problem here. But onward!

"Adolf Eichmann was thoughtful, orderly, and unimaginative. He had a profound respect for system, for law and order. He was obedient, loyal, a faithful officer of a great state. He served his government very well. The sanity of Eichmann is disturbing. We equate sanity with a sense of justice, with humaneness, with prudence, with the capacity to love and understand other people. We rely on the sane people of the world to preserve it from barbarism, madness, and destruction. And now it begins to dawn on us that it is precisely the sane ones who are the most dangerous."
-- Thomas Merton, Raids on the Unspeakable

Any culture that spends as much money as we do on ugly cars, fast food and liposuction cannot possibly be sane. Certainly we are not paying attention to cause and effect. Then I consider those Australian aborigines who ritualistically smash their cranks with a heavy rock and conclude that we Eurotrash hog thieves have come at least a little way in the last few hundred years. Despite the aboriginals' eco-friendly grasp of nature and the planet, we have an edge when it comes to male puberty. There is a certain element of national sanity in a country that grasps the post-pubescent male advantages of football over a heavy rock.

Unfortunately, our national sanity is of the thoroughly dangerous sort -- the Third Reich sort. Remember that even Adolf Eichmann was determined to be completely sane by a panel of medical experts. At least as sane as you and me and if you would like to be excluded from this comparison, you may be excused. Like the other good Nazis, ole Eich would have easily made a respected member of American society today, probably as a Republican judicial nominee. He would have fit quite well into a nation of Americans going about its daily business caring for and protecting the homeland's security and profitability. Eichmann slept well at nights, the same as most of us, unaffected in appetite. He would have made a good carpooler, telling us all about the kids and grandkids as we commute the monotonous asphalt strips to and from our jobs, creating the paper work and the information product, the plastics and the commerce of the fatherland, that great sprawling circuit board one sees from airplanes. Like Eichmann, we are efficient, productive, and most terribly of all, untroubled by guilt. Oblivious as gravestones. Sane.

The politicians and generals and bureaucrats and soldiers who planned all of our modern wars were also sane. As are people like Colin Powell, Stormin' Norman and Tommy Franks, and those unnamed legions busy planning the next ones for us. No one seems particularly upset. Daily life in the U.S. is as usual. Sure, we have some frightening new national enemies, but the government is dealing with them. And sure, there are little state-sponsored tortures and murders abroad, a rash of prison construction both inside and outside the country, and some incremental incursions on our civil liberties -- a small price to pay, considering the danger without and within. But what the heck -- the NBA playoffs are just around the corner. Interest rates are at an all time low and the Sox won the pennant. The stores are full of shoppers and the congress is full of shit. Can things really be much different than ever? Nah. Besides, why would the government be interested in nobodies like you and me? Totalitarian state? Here? That's insane."
Joe Bageant


"Republicans may flaunt their hickeys like high school kids in the locker room, but guilt-plagued Democrats, feeling the smart of the mark of the beast, console themselves that they can banish it at the ballot box, if only they close their eyes and wish upon a star. Thus their comfortable self-delusions that the Tiger Woods of the Democratic Party, the technically black Barack Obama, is somehow blessed with an inner moral compass lacking in the rest of society, and therefore does not bear the damnable mark. Wiser souls, aware that Obama possesses a net worth of several millions, a Harvard law degree and a career born in that venerable political whorehouse called Chicago, assume the Devil's mark is probably located on his posterior where we cannot see it. Another political wish upon a star is that Hillary Clinton, a woman marked by so many hickeys that she looks like a victim of massive hemangioma -- but with botox -- will reform our brutal health care system without pulling up her skirt for the insurance industry. Like she says, there is "no possible governmental solution that does not include the insurance industry."

Of course not. Industry is our government. Our votes merely decide which industries have front spots at the public trough for the next four to eight years. Lately it has been Big Pharma and the credit industry, and what a run they've had. Mandatory mental health screening in schools stuffs more prescription drugs into children. The credit card industry's new bankruptcy laws wring the last drop from consumers, instead of giving them the fresh start our forefathers had in mind when they established debtor's laws. But in a new twist on incarceration, they make one's home the new debtor's prison, a place where we sleep while we work off usury interest payments on debt.

Meanwhile, out there in the vast looms of our government-as-corporation, the fast food industry weaves the Cheeseburger Bill, giving itself immunity to lawsuits as it fattens a nation of steers whose sole purpose is to consume, never to be butchered, except in the wars that protect the corporate cheeseburger. Even on the battlefront, it turns profit on millions of burgers and fries that are served to those who fight the oil and cheeseburger wars. American consumers watch this on TV and see it as comfortably familiar. We cannot possibly be doing so badly in Iraq if a soldier can get a Fishwich, a Red Bull, and a Puff Daddy CD on the battlefield. Right? Which is true enough, if you have been conditioned to see a Fishwich and a CD as a symbol of liberty and the utmost accomplishment of the republic -- if you see it as "our way of life." And indeed it is that. Oblivion with an order of fries."
Joe Bageant

"Yesterday I was gridlocked with my wife in traffic near the new mall, surrounded by cars full of monsters. Every redneck face and bloated or coifed middle class head in every vehicle was a grotesque, awful thing. In them you could see the meanest kind of white man ignorance, or smug middle class obliviousness, the kind that could care less if all the babies in Iraq were fried on spits in the Green Zone of Baghdad, so long as their nails get done on Saturdays. (Ah, you've seen the monsters too, haven't you!) There was that fleshy, overweight killer ugliness America seems to produce these day, the faces of a happy motoring people whose armies hold the world at gunpoint so they can stuff down pizza and check out this town's newest mall. Underneath the ugliness, there's a festering mean streak caused by frustration of knowing deep-down that government and commerce are corrupt -- everybody knows this, but tolerates it for fear of losing their bling. The choice was ever thus (de Tocqueville noted its beginnings) but now has become a waking nightmare. One that brings up rage for some if us, rage that, if expressed in the wrong places and too often will get me thrown into the psyche ward if I tarry too much longer here in the land of the free.

"Lookie there," I told my wife, who was driving, "A fucking car wash right over the spot where Nancy Hanks Lincoln's mother was born! I remember when it was in a cornfield. And all these zombies who don't give a crap about the bloody sand and sweatshops they create, just so they can buy a cheap skirt and drive cars worth 10 years of wages in most of the world through a goddamned car wash! If every American died tomorrow, it is unarguable that the planet would be way more sustainable for not having to feed their greed!" On the inside I was bawling and screaming at the same time. I go off on these tirades increasingly these days. It is not good.

I could see by my wife's face she was wondering if "getting Joe some help" was in order. Oh yes, getting some help -- which in America means calling the authorities, in this case the psychiatric medical ones. Advanced technology and the skills of the medical cadre of the super-state offer its citizens wondrous ways to reach out to those in need of help. But it always comes down to prescribing drugs or possibly of even being locked up "for your own good," until your ideations are more "normal."

And so it is that many of us keep the rage inside as best we can, unwilling to destroy a job, or a marriage."
Joe Bageant

"Smiles It's hard as hell to keep conspiracy theories out of one's mind these days. And I'm not talking about "Who really brought down the Twin Towers? or the "Are Zionists behind the Iraq War?" kind of stuff. The booger stalking my ragged old mind these days puts both of those in the shade. And it runs like this:

Is the consumerist totalization of this country and the world really a conscious plot by a handful of powerful corporate and financial masters? If we answer "yes" we find ourselves trundled off toward the babbling ranks of the paranoid. Still though, it's easy enough to name those who would piss themselves with joy over the prospect of a One World corporate state, with billions of people begging to work for their 1,500 calories a day and an xBox chip in their necks. It's too bad our news media quit hunting with live ammo decades ago, leaving us with no one to track the activities and progress of what sure as hell seem to be global elites, judging from the financial spoor we find along every pathway of modern life.

In our saner moments we can also see that it does not take dark super-centralized plotting to pull off what appears to have been accomplished. Even without working in overt concert, a few thousands of dedicated individual corporate and financial interests can constitute a unified pathogenic whole, much the same as individual cells create a viable dominant colony of malignant organisms -- malignant simply by their anti-human, anti-societal nature. We don't see GM, Halliburton, Burger King and CitiBank lobbying the state for universal health or clean rivers, do we? But mention unions or living wages, and the financial colony within our national Petri dish shape shifts into a Gila monster and squirts venom on the idea and shits money all over Capitol Hill. I looked at all this as coincidence for years until the proposition finally strained credulity so much that I threw in the towel and said, "Fuck it. There is only so much coincidence to go around in this world."

Put another way, the global decision makers, international planners, financial institutions, political parties, media conglomerates, corporations, banks, a hegemonic, accumulative bloc working in concert to coordinate the extraction of wealth from first and third world alike. A series of privately held international institutions to which and from which money can be moved to leverage nations and populations according to their needs is probably gonna do just that because they can. National territory doesn't mean shit to such people, and those who govern said territory mean even less, except to the extent they can obstruct or incite resistance. People like Castro and Chavez. But even they are they are just the thorn in the lion's paw.

Consider this: The war in Iraq has been immensely profitable for the people who make weapons and for the contractors who supposedly rebuild what the weapons destroy. They profit in either case. And the longer war goes on the more they will make.

Meanwhile, the money for both is obtained through extraction practiced upon the world's laboring poor. But the big money, the "juice" as street people used to say, comes from squeezing the orange of American society for more work, more production and tax money. Some of us older oranges are feeling pretty wrung out these days and are getting hard as hell to get along with. Yet, the squeeze doesn't seem to bother most Americans at all. The pressure has been so great and so constant that no one any longer feels it. It has become so pervasive as to be incomprehensible to ordinary people. For example, seventy cents of every income-tax dollar goes to pay for past, present, and future wars. Education gets two cents. As Michael Parenti has pointed out, the cost of military aircraft parts and ammunition kept in storage by the Pentagon is greater than the combined federal spending on pollution control, conservation, community development, housing, occupational safety, and mass transportation all put together. And the US Navy spends more money in its never ending development of a submarine rescue vehicle than is spent for public libraries, occupational safety, and daycare centers combined.

Collectively, these financial super-elites, who either do or do not exist, must be at least somewhat aware that they are managing the world. Otherwise, why would we have Davos conferences and such? Global financial conferences where the likes of Bill Clinton and Al Gore and John Kerry are merely the entertainment, mere proof of the attendants' prestige? Can it be true that the world's real players practically yawned at Alan Greenspan's cryptic little speeches while waiting for the backstage action with the real movers and shakers from Goldman, Citibank and others, none of whom we have ever heard of but never the less are said to account for the drop in gas prices in the U.S. just prior to the 2006 mid-term elections? Word has it that they changed the index last July so oil futures holders would be forced to dump in October and November, creating a mild glut during the elections. If that is true, then we can probably thank them for that Dow 12,000 last month too."
Joe Bageant

1/25/2007 06:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leaked news video - UFO over Chicago O`Hare airport (Jan.07)
8 min 53 sec - Jan 12, 2007
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6955595588223403397

Has the 'off feed' taped discussion between the announcer and the original Chicago Tribune reporter for about five minutes when they chatted before the interview was taped. The larger informal interview is more thorough than the formal interview that went out over the air.

(The "Pee Wee Herman"-like (off camera) personality of the announcer is almost embarrassing, though in a way touchingly human, particularly to see him switch back and forth from "Wow!...Cool!... O Man! MAN!", to professional composure, back to wow cool man when the camera fades off. Godard couldn't have made it better.)

1/25/2007 08:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Panaetius Posidonius Nigidius Figulus said...

"Cuddles, I can see from the crystal balls you are a sailor...."

1/25/2007 08:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Opposing thumbs said...

Coelacanths are the only living species known to have a functional intracranial joint, which almost completely separates the front and back halves of the skull internally. Flexure at this joint may aid in the consumption of large prey by the use of suction. Coelacanths are also mucilaginous; their scales release mucus and their bodies continually exude oil. This oil is a laxative, and makes the fish virtually inedible unless dried and salted.

Coelacanths are opportunistic feeders, hunting cuttlefish, squid, snipe eels, small sharks, and other fish found in their deep reef and volcanic slope habitats. Coelacanths are also known to swim head down, backwards and belly up to locate their prey presumably utilizing its rostral gland. Scientists suspect that one reason this fish has been so successful is that they can slow down their metabolisms at any time, sinking into the less-inhabited depths and minimizing their nutritional requirements in a sort of hibernation mode.

1/25/2007 08:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Satisfied mind said...

Cuckoofish,

Let me get this straight, when confronted with your threatening suggestion of sexual violence, namely telling me to "ram that keyboard up your ass," you would like us all to believe that "Actually, I said that just because I don't go in for that ramming business..."

Say WHAT??????????

Doublethink much?

Repressed violence much?

Newspeak / Doublespeak much?

You must have been a great inspiration for George Orwell in some hoary, coelacanth-ridden backwash of Devonian-aged murky-mindedness.

Yes, indeed. Rock on. As in the Stone Age.

WiiiilllllllMAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

1/25/2007 09:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Komandante Kontreras said...

Dick Cheney actually is the first VP to hold two positions in government. He also serves as the mayor of thiscity. They don´t call it the ´green´ zone for nothing.

1/25/2007 09:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Bilderbeger Combo said...

Smugified Mind, you really oughta lay off the cuttlefish. He's annoying but you're way worse. I would also like to ask Sexy Maenads or whatever the Christ you're called: how much do you weigh (no smartass answers, either)

Everybody else please talk about E Howard Hunt, and the secrets he took with him, thanks.

1/25/2007 09:20:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Yes to the who's who on the trance strip. I forgive you.
IC..I've spent a bit of time working out a solution to äll' the world's problems. I would appreciate a separate venue on one of your blogs to discuss it including what you can find on the Austrian money thing. Could you post a link to the blog of your choosing where we might "focus"on just that one subject?

There are a couple of sources of information concerning "our future" that should be checked out and are mostly available freely on line. Blavatsky never stops giving and the author of "Behold A Pale Horse" for all and sundry with a need to know.

1/25/2007 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This could have been an introduction:

We cannot possibly be doing so badly in Iraq if a soldier can get a Fishwich, a Red Bull, and a Puff Daddy CD on the battlefield. Right? Which is true enough, if you have been conditioned to see a Fishwich and a CD as a symbol of liberty and the utmost accomplishment of the republic -- if you see it as "our way of life." And indeed it is that. Oblivion with an order of fries."
~Joe Bageant


to this:

THE FASCIST STATES OF DISNEYLAND: American fascism as the perfection of fascist techniques

There are a lot of similarities between America and Germany, though the difference is actually a compliment to fascists out there: where Germany failed in the 1930s, America has succeeded. The compliment to fascists out there would be that America seems to have perfected State control of society and ideology far more than Germany was ever able to attempt or achieve, quite possibly because American fascist ideology has made good on Orwell's fear of the State dominating through complete control of the identity of individuals--from cradle to grave.

Let's call it State Individualism, which is different from actual individualism because it is a individualism that only serves the American corporate state. American fascism has entirely done away with any social ideologies--which Germany, Italy, Japan or other fascist movements in Eastern Europe or Scandinavia had. The American fascist ideology of is one of (corporate state managed of course) State Individualism.

Here are some similarities between Germany's fascism and America's fascism that only shows that America's version is a more perfected variety of hyper-fascism. It takes the principles of State control and divide and conquer of the citizens to a hyper-level: down to the individual level....

1. Like Germany, a centralized media exists. However, unlike Germany, American fascism of State Individualism has allowed a very different kind of fascism than before: a special American hyper-fascism that is a combination of the historical corporate state fascism and typical police state repression, corporate interlocks, jingoism, and imperialism--combined with a public personae that is entirely disconnected from society instead of about it: the ideology sails over society and numbs it instead of asks for its participation. It sells escapism through particular state mandated 'individualisms' instead of actual individualism, it sells disney-esque cant, slogans, and jingles, each lasting 30 seconds for 24 hours a day, and endless kaleidoscope of blurring emptiness. The ideology of State Individualism is that the individual is a tabula rasa to be programmed with whatever State elites want, whatever emotions, whatever ideas, and this programming can be achieved year after year precisely because no one is given any manner to approach the issue of their manipulation historically. Updates, fads, planned obsolescence, deprivation, and consumption are the techniques of State Individualism. What are illegal are localism, pro-active political action, and democratic challenges.

2. While Germany attempted corporate state fascism with a social ideology, a 'volk' concept, a unity concept--American fascism's ideology of State Individualism, if anything is an ideology of intentional chaos and anomyization. It is easier for the American corporate state to rule over this chaos than any organized social force that it might seed though it may later get out of its control. Hitler built an ideological force based on social ideologies. America has learned to do without it, as long as the individuated pieces of the chaos of images get filtered through the same corporate state screening--thus, the process of State programming becomes seamless....


As Bush said after his terror strike 9-11, "We're still in danger, though just go about your daily lives and keep shopping."

1/25/2007 10:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Lead-lined closed mind said...

Dear Rat's ass burger Crumbo,

Want fries with that?

1/25/2007 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Oarwell said...

From Kevin at Cryptogon, this "scientists discover the wheel" news flash:

Via: TIME

"It was a fairly modest experiment, as these things go, with volunteers trooping into the lab at Harvard Medical School to learn and practice a little five-finger piano exercise. Neuroscientist Alvaro Pascual-Leone instructed the members of one group to play as fluidly as they could, trying to keep to the metronome’s 60 beats per minute. Every day for five days, the volunteers practiced for two hours. Then they took a test.

At the end of each day’s practice session, they sat beneath a coil of wire that sent a brief magnetic pulse into the motor cortex of their brain, located in a strip running from the crown of the head toward each ear. The so-called transcranial-magnetic-stimulation (TMS) test allows scientists to infer the function of neurons just beneath the coil. In the piano players, the TMS mapped how much of the motor cortex controlled the finger movements needed for the piano exercise. What the scientists found was that after a week of practice, the stretch of motor cortex devoted to these finger movements took over surrounding areas like dandelions on a suburban lawn.

The finding was in line with a growing number of discoveries at the time showing that greater use of a particular muscle causes the brain to devote more cortical real estate to it. But Pascual-Leone did not stop there. He extended the experiment by having another group of volunteers merely think about practicing the piano exercise. They played the simple piece of music in their head, holding their hands still while imagining how they would move their fingers. Then they too sat beneath the TMS coil.

When the scientists compared the TMS data on the two groups–those who actually tickled the ivories and those who only imagined doing so–they glimpsed a revolutionary idea about the brain: the ability of mere thought to alter the physical structure and function of our gray matter. For what the TMS revealed was that the region of motor cortex that controls the piano-playing fingers also expanded in the brains of volunteers who imagined playing the music–just as it had in those who actually played it.

“Mental practice resulted in a similar reorganization” of the brain, Pascual-Leone later wrote. If his results hold for other forms of movement (and there is no reason to think they don’t), then mentally practicing a golf swing or a forward pass or a swimming turn could lead to mastery with less physical practice. Even more profound, the discovery showed that mental training had the power to change the physical structure of the brain."

------------

Or if not the actual physical structure, thinking about a task does seem to alter the function of neurons recruited into a sort of motor task-related syncetium.

They can also reverse the TCS device to cancel out electromagnetic signals in specific areas of cortex. Ie., erase memory, stop pleasure or pain, brighten the days of the depressed, cancel out hunger. Next step: make people love Big Brother, with transcranial stimulators.

The possibilities are endless, and fun! People could walk around and point the devices at anyone they fancied -- love me! Zap! Stop feeding your face! Zap! Forget the testimony in the courtroom! Zap! Fall to the ground writhing in agony! Zap!

We know who will inflict the pain, but who will turn up the love? Underground joy zappers; sure to be outlawed by any sensible governance authority interested in preserving the public order. I can see it: black market transcranial stimulators that provide you with endless pleasure and happiness: What will afficionados be called? Magheads? Magcrankers?

Is that smile real or Memorex?

1/25/2007 10:57:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Richard,

Old Joe is just smokin', ain't he? I'm going to share a little something he wrote to me after I had responded to that Somewhere a Banker Smiles essay where he finally throws in the towel and joins the conspiracy haunted. I was worried about Joe--he really did appear to be wrung out by the strain of coming over to our way of looking at things--so I dropped him a line with some vague hints about the thin consolations afforded to our camp. Well, Joe responded with something that reminded me of a post you wrote a long time ago. Here's Joe on that most essential quality when the mind quakes, perspective:

We just have our lenses adjusted at different resolutions.

I look at it all as a function of perception...because perception is a macro-micro-scope, which we should all learn to use effectively. For example, if I zoom way in on the topic, I can certainly isolate a villain dark enough to scare the shit out of anybody with warm blood. Zoom back an inch and you see bank meetings in Geneva that appear conspiratorial

On the other hand, if I zoom far back in perspective, I can see all of humanity as a smear of biology on a speck of cosmic dust. And any focus between those two observation points will provide a differing---though part of a continuous---view. And every one of them represents a truthful, but selective depiction.

The different camps regarding most things political are either results of the different resolutions possible, usually locked into place and touted as one political truth or another (or locked into a rather blurry focus in order to obscure the obvious for purposes of manipulation.)


I can see all of humanity as a smear of biology on a speck of cosmic dust--now that's perspective.


ericswan,

I'm down with that. Here's my as yet unused Society & Art page, as good a place as any for that kind of thing. Plug away.


Finally, and a big sorry to the rest of you witnessing my taking the bait (again), but here's the facts, Jack. You wrote this, and I quote in full and sickening detail:

Inquiring mind said...
I have a sincere and serious question for the personality tagged as “Iridescent Cuttlefish”.

Are you really such a desperately obsequious and pathetically panting sycophant for the approval of the totally undynamic duo that is made up of the psychopathic fecal mouth Richtard and bush brained Schlubgeddown as you seem to be, or is that just some bizarrely kinky form of role playing? Could even the saddest, seediest, loneliest, nerdiest and neediest of bloggy geeks really seek the approval of the sickeningly slimebucket-dwelling coelocanth that is they/it as you would have us believe?

Or are you merely a participant in some debasingly freakish form of mind control cult?

Do you actually hold down a real job and have a real family with real children as you claim? If so, how do you possibly find the time to participate to any significant extent in that real life and compose and type up the pages upon pages of predominantly pusillanimous, painstakingly pedantic, not to mention ponderously prolix profusion of paragraphs that constitute your purple prose, complete with extensive html code, and which seem to stretch from here to ad nauseum?

[That last, redundant “to” was a Latinate pun, tyvm].

Perhaps you dictate your posts to a secretary, hmmm?

Are you even a male, as you claim? If so, you seem pretty gay. The tone of your writing is quite feminine (no offense to the women out there). Besides, did you know that both iridescent and cuttlefish are girls names?

What is up with that?

Please try to limit your answer to under 5,000 words or less. And no German, please. My doctor says I am deutschophobic.

Although I think it is just my allergy to seafood.

7:20 AM

To which I responded (again, sorry):

iridescent cuttlefish said...
Inquiring mind,

That was very funny. Interestingly, the thing that most upsets you about me--I mean aside from my purple fecundity--is that I don't really do that "ram your keyboard up your ass" thing that you yourself have just engaged in with me. I know it pisses Shrub off sometimes, too, but you gotta be true to your nature, right? Let me see if I can parse your logic here a little. I'm effeminate because of my lack of invective? So, your manly righteous anger is the way to go then? That's the next step up in our long, slow evolution?

It seems to me we've tried that way before--do we really need another John Wayne? Still, you do have a point: you are what you is. And I'm thinkin' you remind me, in my girlish imagination, of that Spermageddon poster who teaches German while hating all things German. Anger on, manly man, anger on.

As to your internet-baby you must be a disinfo agent insinuation, well angry man, this is just a side thing--I write 4 hours a day at my real gig, dabble here and occasionally at a few other blogs when the kids are at school or asleep, and even manage to keep my wife reasonably satisfied (insofar as it's within the power of any man to do so--go ask sexymaenads how that works.)

Peace, dinosaur, peace. Your time will come again.

10:28 AM

Now, where was I threatening you? Remember, my lack of aggression was a sure sign of my nancy-boyishness. So, hugs & kisses, you DECLARATIVE MAN, YOU!!! (Wait, I can't do that right. How many exclamation marks is proper in the straight-talkin' manly mode?)

1/25/2007 11:20:00 PM  
Anonymous silly Cindy Sell in her frilly dress from Dell said...

The Lady (Tumescent Wattlefish) doth project too much, methinks.

1/26/2007 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Laptop Dancer said...

How do you like my Hewlett Packard? How would you like your Hewlett Packard?

It's the latest in fashion technology. Slim, trim, very chic.

It only hurts when I sit down.

Brought to you by the frozen food fashionista fascista department at CoelacanthCo.

1/26/2007 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will sit .........no here goes,
I am 51 kilos and 165 cm, or 113 lbs. and 5 foot 7 1/2 inches.
Reddish-Blond hair with green eyes.


The rest of us are not fat or too skinny.
Eating right means no more than 25-30 percent protein.We are omnivours.
Exercise and meditation (hatha yoga).
Now use our imagination before i get so graffic the words melt.

Now we like to party, that means dancing, we like the spiral dance.
Getting lost in the dance.

Dancing is a vertical expression of a horizontal desire.

Feasting and Dancing into the night.



Sabrina

1/26/2007 01:46:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

IC

technical problem..I don't see a place to post comments. I see 0 comments but no post a comment.

1/26/2007 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who would have ever thought that I'd equate an "Inquiring Mind" with a hermaphroditic troll, and nearly up to a tri-sexual troglodyte, but indeed that is what I now do...

1/26/2007 02:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I forgot to add that I say that (the previous post) with all due respect to our "Inquiring Mind", who of course is so observant of essential ettiquette that she sticks out her middle pinkie whilst chugging her tee.

1/26/2007 02:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.abcgallery.com/C/cranach/cranach18.html

Of course a real photo would give you power over me, if i could only trust everyone, but this will have to do.
It is as real as it gets.

Sabrina

1/26/2007 02:31:00 AM  
Anonymous cjillin said...

Oh, a storm is threatning
My very life today
If I dont get some shelter
Oh yeah, Im gonna fade away

War, children, its just a shot away
Its just a shot away
War, children, its just a shot away
Its just a shot away

Ooh, see the fire is sweepin
Our very street today
Burns like a red coal carpet
Mad bull lost its way

War, children, its just a shot away
Its just a shot away
War, children, its just a shot away
Its just a shot away

Rape, murder!
Its just a shot away
Its just a shot away

Rape, murder!
Its just a shot away
Its just a shot away

Rape, murder!
Its just a shot away
Its just a shot away

The floods is threatning
My very life today
Gimme, gimme shelter
Or Im gonna fade away

War, children, its just a shot away
Its just a shot away
Its just a shot away
Its just a shot away
Its just a shot away
I tell you love, sister, its just a kiss away
Its just a kiss away
Its just a kiss away
Its just a kiss away
Its just a kiss away
Kiss away, kiss away

- The Rolling Stones

1/26/2007 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Art

http://www.abcgallery.com/S/semiradsky/semiradsky9.html
Henryk Siemiradzki. Bacchanalia. - Olga's Gallery

http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/000Free/000SATYRSMAENADS/source/7.html
SATYRS & MAENADS Album 7/37, Greek Mythology Link - www.maicar.com

http://www.bradmays.com/images/bf17.jpg
bf17.jpg (JPEG Image, 644x323 pixels) - Scaled (90%)

http://www.uark.edu/campus-resources/achilles/graphics/trag_penth1.jpg
trag_penth1.jpg (JPEG Image, 500x264 pixels)

http://www.thanasis.com/modern/nymsatyr.jpg
nymsatyr.jpg (JPEG Image, 269x400 pixels) - Scaled (73%)

...................
Our Hero

Dionysos, the god of the vine, invented wine and spread the art of tending grapes.

He has a dual nature, on the one hand bringing Joy and Divine Ecstasy, on the other brutal, unthinking rage and madness--thus reflecting both sides of wine's nature.

No normal fetters can hold him or his followers, the Maenads.

Dionysos wandered the world actively encouraging his cult. He was accompanied by the Maenads--wild women, flush with wine, shoulders draped with a fawn skin, carrying rods tipped with pine cones (the thyrsos). While other gods had temples the followers of Dionysos worshipped him in the woods. Here they might go into mad states where they would rip apart and eat raw any animal--or person--they came upon.
Maenads in their frenzy running in the forests often killing any animal they happen to come across.
....................

Uncontrolled

But why should the king let himself be humiliated by weak women, when he had shield-bearers,riders, horses, and the power to deploy them and stage a devastating assault? This original thought occurred in the mind of Pentheus, and he decided to order such an attack in an attempt to make a great, and as some would say 'historic' slaughter of the women.

For clashing cymbals,
tricks of magic,
hysterical cries,
drunkenness,
and vulgarity,
he thought, are nothing compared to drawn swords, trumpets, horsemen, and lines of spears.

And all the same, helmets are a better shelter than garlands or wreaths.

But before he passed into action, he was persuaded by Dionysus , who was disguised as a priest of his own rites, to go first and spy the MAENADS in the woods, being advised by the god to go dressed as a woman, for otherwise they would kill him. And when he came, hiding as spies do and (strange enough) hoping to watch what would disgust him, that is, the shameful acts of the MAENADS,

tricked

Pentheus
But shall I be more like a maenad holding the thyrsos in my right hand, or in my left?

Dionysos
You must hold it in your right hand and raise your right foot in unison with it.
Euripides Bacchae c. l. 940 -

...................

THE SEA OF KYPRIS

I had crouched on the edge of the highest promontory. The sea was black as a field of violets. And the Milky Way was gushing from the great supernal breast.

About me a thousand Maenads slept in the torn-up flowers. Long grasses mingled with their flowing hair. And now the sun was born from the eastern waters.

These the same waves and these the self-same shores that saw one day the white body of Aphrodite rising. . . I suddenly hid my eyes in my hands.

For I had seen the water trembling with a thousand little lips of light: the pure sex, or it may have been the smile of Kypris Philommeïdes.

Dream on,
sexymaenads

1/26/2007 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Diana was the first created before all creation.

............
art

http://www.abcgallery.com/T/titian/titian73.html
Titian. Diana and Actaeon. - Olga's Gallery



http://www.abcgallery.com/T/titian/titian72.html
Titian. Diana and Callisto. - Olga's Gallery
........


ISIS ASTARTE DIANA HECTATE DEMETER KALI INANNA

Sabrina

1/26/2007 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Undercover

Hear the screams of center 42
Loud enough to bust your brains out
The oppositions tongue is cut in two
Keep off the street cause you're in danger

One hundred thousand disparus
Lost in the jails in south america
Cuddle up baby
Cuddle up tight
Cuddle up baby
Keep it all out of sight
Undercover
Keep it all out of sight
Undercover of the night

The SEX POLICE are out there on the streets
Make sure the pass laws are not broken
The race militia has got itchy fingers
All the way from new york back to africa

Cuddle up baby
Keep it all out of sight
Cuddle up baby
Sleep with all out of sight
Cuddle up baby
Keep it all out of sight
Undercover
Undercover
Undercover
Keep it all out of sight
Undercover of the night

All the young men they've been rounded up
And sent to camps back in the jungle
And people whisper people double-talk
And once proud fathers act so humble
All the young girls they have got the blues
Theyre heading on back to center 42

Keep it undercover
Keep it all out of sight
Keep it undercover
Keep it all out of sight
Undercover
Keep it all out of sight
Undercover
Keep it all out of sight
Undercover of the night

Down in the bars the girls are painted blue
Done up in lace, done up in rubber
The johns are jerky little g.i. joes
On r&r from cuba and russia
The smell of sex, the smell of suicide
All these things I can't keep inside

Undercover
Keep it all out of sight
Undercover of the night

.........................
FORNEUS

* Zodiac Position: 25-29 degrees of Leo
* August 18th-22nd
* Tarot Card: 7 of Rods
* Candle color: Orange
* Plant; Sunflower
* Planet: Mars
* Element: Fire
* Metal: Iron
* Rank: Marquis
* Forneus is a Day demon and rules 29 legions of spirits. He was partly of the order of Thrones and partly of the order of Angels.

Forneus gives one a good reputation and teaches langages. He teaches all arts and sciences, including rhetoric, and can make one's enemies love him/her.

He protects from evil doers.

Forneus is very kind and human friendly. He has a beautiful deep red robe like a king's robe, trimmed in white with black spots. He has black shoulder length hair with bangs. Intense look, dark eyebrows and piercing black eyes with olive skin.

He also appears with a reptilian sea creature.
He understands about the evil of jehova's angels.

Freyja

1/26/2007 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Oarwell said...

Brilliant article by Michael Rozeff at LRC. I understood things like Cheney to be animated corpses, but Rozeff comprehends that the whole system is a zombie:

(Excerpts)

"As I see it, the Empire was stillborn ethically. Whatever life it had and has, was and is, ethically invalid. Its life is drawn from us the living; we die as it battens on our blood. Like a vampire, the Empire is morally dead. It lives by night and darkness, has no reflection in any mirror, and can’t survive without inflicting death on the living. The body of the Empire keeps on fighting for blood, round after round; but it’s a moral zombie. Unfortunately for us, we are part of it. As in the Dracula story, we sustain it, we are hypnotized by it, and after awhile we become a disciple of the dreadful creature. We see and live the night and day of the living dead.

Domestically and internationally, the machinery of state surrealistically clanks on, but it is hopelessly clogged up. Its rhythm lacks measure and cadence in its chaos of nervous exhaustion. It goes through the motions, incanting the tired slogans and spells of its once-powerful magic. The bizarre atmosphere dispensed by the strange and unbelievable practices of the American Empire contains no life-giving oxygen. It suffocates whatever it envelops with a poisonous gas of laws, pressures, and regulations. Morally and ethically dead, dispersing ever-more utterly outlandish emanations, the machinery of state deals death upon whatever it touches.

Having gutted the ethical foundations of life, we have instituted policies of death. More and more we come face to face with our own madness. Today, people constantly refer to things as "crazy." Yet they do not fully realize what they are saying, how deep this craziness goes, or why it is so prevalent."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rozeff/rozeff133.html

1/26/2007 09:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Why don't we all give our measurements? Why just Sabrina. IC, how tall are you and how much do you weigh? If you're feeling brave, you can also tell us the diameter of your cranium.

Also, did you notice my question to you and your reply were expunged, Sabrina? People get very uneasy when you start discussing proper vaginal hygiene (most consider it inane, or nonsense). By the way, I knew that about douching....and I didn't mean to imply it when I asked you the question.

You all seem to have overlooked the breast in the discussion of genitalia worship. Why is that? I don't feel proper in leaving them out....they have their rightful place, you know.

1/26/2007 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Jeff,
are you following the Robert Pickton story in Vancouver ?

1/26/2007 09:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The demon vampire promises everlasting life.

1/26/2007 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aliens from Sirius

Some believe there was an ancient extraterrestrial contact with Earth. And I believe that the period of interaction with extraterrestrials and the founding of Egyptian and Sumerian civilization with their help probably fell between 5000 and 3000 BC. We can call the time of this interaction, whenever it was, the Contact Period. I believe that the pyramids and the Sphinx were probably built by the extraterrestrials themselves during the Contact Period, and that the Step Pyramid of Saqqara was a later and magnificent attempt by men working unaided under the human architect Imhotep -- since the extraterrestrials had long since vanished -- to match those mysterious earlier achievements and show that humans could do such things too. Many of the other Egyptian pyramids then imitated the Step Pyramid, but it can be seen that a lot of them have crumbled into dust and were not very well constructed. Eventually the Egyptians gave up trying to build large pyramids and the so-called 'Pyramid Age' ended altogether.


Sirius is the brightest star in the sky, located in the Constellation, Canis Major, and rises modernly just before the sun on August 7, in Los Angeles. It is a double star with the small star orbiting the larger in a little over 50 years. According to Robert Burnham, Jr's Celestial Handbook, the small star is believed to be a "white dwarf" which has the same mass as our sun but is 40-50 times smaller, with a density 125,000 times that of water. To put that in perspective, a single cubic inch of Sirius "B" would weigh over two tons.

The Egyptians say there are three stars, two of which are visible, and IT IS THE THIRD INVISIBLE STAR which HOLDS THE KEY TO TIME.
Modern astrological observations indicate that there may indeed be a third unseen star.


From the microcosm to the macrocosm the mystic understands the Vortices as patterns of the universe and man--like above, so below; as in heaven, so on earth--while the turning of the Vortex in Spiritual Fluid produces the ebb and flow that is the origin of cause and effect for all phenomena in our terrestrial and every system.

The Great Mysteries of Isis, Dionysus, Eleusinian and the later Pythagorean, Orphic and Hermetic Mysteries all taught that the swirling of cosmic matter was the eddying and flux of Spiritual Matter, the cosmic fire which in ancient myth was seen to circle the earth from the heavenly realms of the North to the dark realms of the House of Death in the South.

It was by this mystical Cosmic Fire that the earth was destroyed and renewed with the passing of each age and from which is born a new heaven and a new earth.


ENKI/EA
God of the Deep, the Sumerian god of the waters, parallels Neptune of later times. He was one of the three primal gods of Sumer: Ea- god of water; Enlil- god of earth; and Anu- god of heaven. Each god had a wife or consort, and the wife of Enlil was Ninlil. The LIL root in his and her name came over 3500 years to survive in the names Allah and Allat, the god and goddess of Mecca in Muhammed's day.


Ea (Enki)

Sacred number: 40



Ea is the god of the fresh waters known as 'apsu' on which the Earth floats. He is a god of wisdom, farming, building, magic and arts and crafts. Ea appears as a bearded man surrounded by flowing water.

Ea is attended by a god with two faces called Usmu (Isimud).

Ea's symbols are the goat-fish and a sceptre with a ram's head.

Many Mesopotamian myths emphasise the fun-loving and mischievous nature of Ea.

One Sumerian myth is called 'Inanna and Enki' (the Sumerian names for Ishtar and Ea). In the beginning of this story, Enki controls the 'me' which are the rules of the universe.

One day, Enki and Inanna get drunk and she tricks him into giving her the 'me'. When Enki realises that he has given the 'me' away, he tries to recover then from Inanna. But Inanna takes the 'me' back to her city. It is too late for Enki to get them back.


........................................

"What do you believe in?" she asked.
"I am a Pagan."
She went through the roof. "How can you be a Pagan," she demanded. "Pagans worship the devil, they kill children and sacrifice goats."
After telling her that Buddhists and Hindus are also Pagans, but that I was not a Buddhist or Hindu, and the word actually means "civilians," as opposed to the Christian Milli, who were enlisted in the army of Jesus, she insisted that I should not tell people I am a Pagan.
"It has too negative a connotation," she insisted. "It pushes the wrong buttons for people."
I agreed that it did, but added, "I would rather be called a Pagan in disdain, than be called a Christian in honor."

Sabrina

1/26/2007 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the Pickton story.
How the moral right try to hide all this until it shows its ugly head.

They are part of the problem.

Pretending it does not exist.

Trying to save us from ourselves by keeping us slaves to their hypocrisy.

Much like the father from Siddhartha did to him.

When he went outside the palace walls, he found out the truth and he was not amused that it was kept hidden from him.

TRULY, There is much Sadness Now in the world.

Remember, Trust no one.

We daily ask for Fathers Protection.
We answer only to him.

Our intuition would let us know.

Inner strength and confidence come from knowing one are able to DEFEND ones self and NOT HAVE TO RELY ON OTHERS.

Controlling our own minds, instead of our minds controlling us is not easy. Our minds were designed to undermine us. This is obvious.

Our minds are structured to keep us ignorant and as slaves, preventing us from becoming as the Gods. Our plethora of unstructured thoughts dissipates into nothing and we are amnesiacs when it comes to former lives. The education and talents we once had in previous lifetimes are lost and we must be relearn everything again, over and over. An uncontrolled mind can drive one to unnecessary worry, stress, disturbing thoughts and in the worst cases, insanity. Weak people suffer more in the long run.

Fears, insecurities, and uncontrolled emotions are free to torment us day and night.

Those who refuse to better themselves are at the MERCY OF FAT.

FATE can be cruel and unforgiving.

"Today is NOT the first day of the rest of your life." Every action you have taken up to this point has established a foundation and pattern in your life. This isn't to say this is permanent, as everyone can change, but change will not come without plenty of effort.

Unlike those who are without, we have Father Satan to direct and guide us. Father Satan knows everything about us, inside and out and where we are headed. He is all-knowing, and can save us from making some very SERIOUS MISTAKES, but those who do not care and make no effort to better themselves can find themselves without.They do not hear the warning bells, their intuition is fogged with crack and heroin (SLAVE DRUGS).
They took a chance and trusted.



Establishing control over one’s emotions is very important. Out of control, emotions can be detrimental to one’s health and well-being, and at worst can be lethal. In a situation where panic takes control and gives way to terror, where fear is completely out of control; one can freeze up when immediate action is called for and wind up dead. Out of control, emotions interfere with and even prevent rational thought. Here the panic/terror takes over one’s entire being. Control of emotions and having a calm mind can mean the difference between life and death.

All it takes is one person who has a little intelligence and manipulative ability than the average person.
Manipulative ability can be obtained while doing prison time.

The ex-con then gets out and looks for those who are young or vulnerable to prey on.

He/she more than likely uses drugs, although less than his/her followers who he/she remains in control of and with what these individuals advocate, if they haven't already been to prison, they will more than likely wind up there. Drugs are part of the control.

HARD Drugs can leave you not in control defenseless against these manipulators who kill.

We never trust an offer that is too good to be true.
.......................

Sentenced to Get what he Gave

To bad we did not get him first, before he murdered againa and again.

We would be doing Father an honor to rid the world of this so called human being.

How can we forgive this?

We can not ever forgive those who take advantage of the defenseless.
Therefore we must repay evil with evil.

ON WAY TICKET
22cal. shot to extremities r. arm, l. leg ,r. arm l. leg again and again.

I wonder how many times this pig of a human would last, cry baby that he is now.We have lots of .22 caliber bullets.

Hang him upside down and gut him like a pig that he is.

Death to Tyrants, NOT MERCY
It just makes


sexymaenads

1/26/2007 10:47:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Ericswan,

Try it again--I've got an explanation in the comments (you have to click on those hyper-text-loaded words--"comments," and again on "Post a comment"...)


Oarwell,

Very nice links. On the first, the notion that we feed the vampires with our attention and, even more importantly, just by going along with the game as it's being played, I'd say there are some possible antidotes, one of which comes, serendipitously enough, from the second, scarier article you discussed. If ideation is creation (if only, at this stage, on the level of our neural architecture), then we can think in other modes which do not support the vampires.

Here's an example. What activities are approved by the state? Mindless consumerism, bloodsport and holodrama spectating, and...working like busy little Eichmanns at providing the State with the documentation and approved ideation that support the nasty reality from which we tend to recoil. (There's a great scene in Kage Baker's new book, The Machine's Child, where this office worker drone thinks he's living and working in 24th century London when, in fact, he's been hijacked by the flawless illusion of these things provided by the plug in his neck. When the heroes stumble upon him, he's having "conversations" with thin air in a cramped, smelly box tucked away safely in 500,000 BCE.)

Well, if playing along with the game empowers them and reduces us, then engaging in alternate ideation--the creative, conscious kind--should reverse that process. If their game is fed by death, then someone who goes around thinking his own, very different thoughts, engaging in "real" conversations or, God forbid, actually helping other people is going to have an opposite effect on that congealing reality.

But you don't have to be Francis of Assisi (or Joe Bageant--see helping others link) to effect the universal stage, according to this notion of ideation & creation. I had this gig once where I'd go into virtual space to design things for a very nasty, defense-related industry (no, I was not designing weapons or anything like it) and for each drawing I was supposed to be making, I'd have another, very different type of virtual picture, you know, electronic landscapes of Rivendell, etc. The fact that I always put far more time and effort into my world than theirs may not have effected the balance of good & evil in any measurable way, but the "good drawings" are what gave me the energy & insight I needed to tackle the technical problems in the "real" world.

The idea of the wirehead has been around for a long time--Larry Niven's droud scared the bejesus out of readers like me 30 years ago. This new technology is, however, far scarier because the wireheads did it voluntarily, knowingly. It's the illusion of freedom that will trap you these days, not the real jack-booted thugs that the rightwing bunker boys were warning us about in the '90s.

1/26/2007 10:51:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Shrub,
"Is Johnson kosher?" is a less personal question, if you ask me...

1/26/2007 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More Crime.An endles cycle, we say kill PICKTON ASAP.

One way ticket mutt.


Now, people who refuse these emotions and do not express them run into more serious problems than anyone could imagine. Regardless of how many fools try to deny anger and hatred, and suppress them, they just don’t just disappear or go away. They come out in much more severe and destructive ways that affect one’s over-all physical and mental health.

Those who go to counselors or psychiatrists are normally prompted by the professional to express suppressed rage and anger. Underneath the xian pasted on smiley mask, there are extremely warped emotions that have evolved into child molesting, Raping and Worse.

The xian, see the BTK killer, in the advanced stages of xianity takes on the artificial pasty appearance with the goofy smile, because the lie that the xian believes and has become, emerges in the physical self.

People who normally will not acknowledge hatred, rage, resentment, jealously, or spite, down the road they often wind up under the care of a mental health professional. People need to vent.

There are of course constructive and destructive ways of venting one’s anger. Self-preservation is the highest law. The most important thing one can do is to acknowledge these emotions and never to pretend they are not there or do not exist.

When we come to Satan, there is a lot of psychological cleaning house that goes on. After one realizes one has been perpetually lied to, viciously indoctrinated, exploited, shit on by the system and has paid a high price for all of this- there can be rage that lasts years. This is all very normal. Each one of us is individual and we all have different amounts of hatred and anger that must be dealt with. Just how long the anger stage will last is individual. Remember this is nothing harmful, it is therapeutic.

Meditation will also bring a lot of suppressed emotions into the conscious so they can be dealt with.

Satanists are not hypocrites. If we are angry or resentful, we acknowledge this. I am not talking running on a rampage of destruction here, but just acknowledging one’s hatred and/or anger and taking steps to vent it in a healthy way.


The RHP teaches a lack of desire. This is so the average person will be quite powerless.

Yoga is from Satan. The meaning of yoga is integration and balance, bringing everything- mind, body, spirit, and emotion together as a powerful force.

In working advanced magick, one must use everything above as a unified force.

Directed emotion and desire are the basis of magick.

...................
When Satan approached the Nazarene in the desert, HE DID NOT APPROACH HIM AS AN EQUAL, BUT AS A SUPERIOR. We do not worship an equal or a lesser being. Satan's offering to the Nazarene, right there, blatantly indicated that he had much more power than the Nazarene fool. He talked down to the Nazarene. Most Christians are fearful of Satan. Satanists can blaspheme foul Jehova, his worthless "holy spirit,” and his pedophile son, but few Christians will actively invite the wrath of Satan. Many are even fearful of us- so much for their faith in a cowardly impotent "God."

sexymaenads

1/26/2007 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not science fiction any more.
They are called Holographic Implants, coming your way soon.



Anyone remember the (psioic) NSA team awol caught in GULF BREEZE, Florida, they were to kill the anti-christ.

They said HOLOGRAPHIC inserts would appear in 2006.


Davis states that as a teenager, he had enrolled in Silva Mind Control courses that were held in Alex Merklinger’s school in New York, and mastered techniques of self-hypnosis through active imagination. During one of his trances, he met a green-skinned, yellow-clad alien female named Kia, who, over one night, corrected his flat-footedness. Davis said that Kia “told me that she came from a planet forty-five light years away from Earth, that had been destroyed by another race. Her race, the Kiasseions, were telepaths that were enroute to Earth to assist the Alliance in protecting the human race. They were scheduled to arrive by late 1992. The Kiasseion civilization had been reduced to five spacecraft carrying about three thousand people per ship […] Her husband had been killed, and she had taken his place as Commander of this small armada, with her two grown sons in charge of two of the remaining ships.” Kia became Vance’s guardian.
Nothing unusual so far, if at least you are familiar with what many other channelers have stated about their contacts. But Davis held the “toppest” security clearances in the country.

But what caused them to go AWOL? “Ouija board sessions.” According to Davis, the Ouija board put the six soldiers in touch with an entity that named herself Safire, and others, including those presenting themselves as the Old Testament prophet Zechariah, Mark and Timothy of New Testament, and the Blessed Virgin Mary herself.
Between December 1989 and July 1990, the Ouija-summoned spirits gave the group a series of predictions of coming world events which, Davis claims, were passed along to military authorities upon their arrest, together with the copious notes that were taken by the group during the eight Ouija sessions. This at least suggests that the story was true and not fabricated by the group upon their arrest: they could provide documents that Ouija sessions were at the basis of their obsession to arrive in Florida.

When some of Safire’s prophecies, both minor and significant, started to come true, one stating the exact dynamics and the number of casualties of a mayor earthquake in Iran (292,236 deaths), it convinced the six that they were dealing with genuine trans-human encounters. They felt that they were chosen to act as instruments of God’s will – their oath to the military “obviously” seemed to be of less importance than following the orders of God. They asked Safire how to carry out their divine mission. Safire instructed them to flee the military, regardless of consequences, because they were needed to help lead the world through an impending cataclysm. So they did.

Davis states that in 1989, he “began to sense that the lines of demarcation between the physical world and the spiritual one were beginning to blur.” It is here that we need to introduce Beason, who was even more instrumental in the group’s flight. He believed in reincarnation and believed that he had been sacrificed to the gods in a previous life. He also believed that the US government was in cahoots with aliens and that evidence for this could actually be found in Augsburg, the NSA site where they worked. It was also Beason who knew Anna Foster, at whose house in Gulf Breeze most of the groups would later be hiding – and arrested. He was in love with her.

This explains the setting of the desertion, but not the reason. Was it true that they had come to Gulf Breeze to see UFOs? To attend a UFO conference? Davis states that Safire warned them of a coming war. Mankind was about to make an evolutionary step, which is why many alien entities were in orbit, on or under the earth – and/or in telepathic contact with the likes of him. There were two alien groups: the Alliance, the good guys, who believed in free will, and “the Others”, who were abducting people and performing medical experiments on them. Safire “confirmed” to the group that the US government was in cahoots with the aliens, as they had suspected all along.
On an eschatological level, she stated that 1998 would be the date for the false Messiah to make his appearance; the year was three times his number (666). She told them to leave Europe, as there was (in the early 1990s) going to be a US-European conflict, which would make it hard for the group to continue their learning – and would endanger the role they were told they would play during the upcoming evolutionary step. They would leave Europe asap, hide out, before beginning their new life. Their choice for a hide out fell on Gulf Breeze. Not because of UFOs, but because they knew the area and Anna lived there.

When they deserted, each left a copy of the letter dictated by the spirits, in the hope that the letter might make its way into the hands of the president – so that he would know of the dire times ahead. But despite the fact that the survival of the world was at stake, it seems that destiny still had time to have love play its game. Davis had had visions of his “Soul Mate” when he was a teenager. It is when they arrived at Anna’s house, that Davis saw his “Soul Mate”: it was Anna’s roommate, Diana, whom he recognised from the visions more than a decade before.

If the spirit world was guiding them, leading them away from harm, why were they eventually captured? “Safire had told us that Gulf Breeze would be safe until Friday. Then we would stop in Texas to pick up our stuff, and head for the mountain states to begin the rest of our lives, and prepare for what was to come.” But love made Davis and Beason stay longer, and hence they did not leave on the Friday they “should” have left. “Fate” then played its card through a defective taillight and the rest was history.

What is at the bottom of this story? At its most basic level, it shows that certain NSA operatives were dabbling with alien-Christian eschatology – and went AWOL as a consequence. But is that all there is to it? We only have Davis’ word and his interpretation for it, but he does suggest that they may have been part of an experiment – as some observers noted at the time when their story hit the press.
First, early on, when Davis was on his way over to Ft. Meade, there was a woman on his bus who told him his name and said that “God showed me that you will help change the world.” It was a prophecy – at a time when Safire had not yet appeared on the scene and “confirm” his divine mission.
Davis also had an intriguing career. He noted that he had his initial posting in Ft. Meade, which was rare. “I had done work in psychic research back at Fort Meade, and was surprised at the seriousness with which our military approached this subject. I realized then that my fast-track to NSA was probably due to my Silva Mind Control background.” It suggests that Davis was followed – if not singled out – by the NSA early on.
Fast forward to their desertion. In the book, Davis states that “what we didn’t realize at the time was that the government had known of our plans and had an operative on the plane with us, just as Safire had told us. And they lost us when we arrived in Atlanta, just as she had assured us they would.” But the “best evidence” that they were indeed monitored is how the people at Anna’s house were arrested. Hueckstaedt swore that he did not tell the authorities where his fellow deserters were hiding out. Still, the authorities were able to quickly round them up. It suggests that someone knew where they were – and if that is indeed the case, Davis’ notion that the government knew that they were about to desert and followed them during their desertion, makes sense.

As bizarre as the story is, there is an even more bizarre twist, which seems to highlight that if all of this is true, it can’t possibly be true for all soldiers or NSA personnel. Davis claims that when he joined the NSA, he was “retrained in history”. He states: “What I learned was why history happened, who history was, why or when history was. The dates in the book are not all that accurate. Those are accepted dates not factual dates. To give an example. The founding of this country did not occur. The founding fathers were already meeting many years before the advent, the war against England, occurred. There was already a plan in place for the founding of new country. It was not just a spur because British soldiers shot someone or the stand-back. It was the series of events that happened over the period of 60 to 70 years. And they have been planning for the long time.” Such teachings seem bizarre, if only because they serve no real purpose for NSA personnel, except to provide this recruit with a conspiratorial outlook on history.
Where it goes off the wall is what Davis was talking about next. To cut a longish story short, he was claiming that there were “buildings” at White Sands which were “not ours”, suggesting they were not human – and very old. But he then jumps onto UFOs, stating that in the 1960s, a new word was introduced for them: AVC, or Alien Visitation Craft. And listen to this: “the human race was not created, born, linked to the apes, we are survivors of a great war. The human race as we see ourselves today, even our ancient relatives, were basically put on this planet and cut-off from the rest of the Universe.” And: “We have a special gene, that cannot be copied, cannot be manipulated. They have tried. We were told that is called the Jesus gene.” We can only wonder why an NSA operative is “required” to “know” this, in the unlikelihood that any of this would be true to begin with. There is no “need to know” and as such, should not be told. Worst, if true, we have a picture in which the NSA “educates” its new recruits that we are all alien descendents, and then allows them play with the Ouija board, only to have some of them go off half across the world, in the belief that the world is about to end. Though it seems that this fate befell Davis and co., it seems unlikely this is the fate of every NSA recruit. Hopefully.

“Logic” – which does not really come into this story, but somehow needs to be applied to keep a reasonable level of sanity, I would suggest – suggests that something else was going; that this group was singled out and became the victim of an experiment, which their pre-joining interests made them predisposed towards, and which “someone” carefully remoulded to see to test out a hypothesis. If this is true, then the scenario was successful, and when the test was concluded, they were rounded up, brought in… and allowed to tell their story, so that the public disclosure of their story would serve part of the exercise as well.


LEARNING ABOUT HISTORY-Merklinger:
Vance graduated from civil mind control school when he was 15. Upon entering the NSA Vance was reeducated again.What I learned was why history happened, who history was, why or when history was. The dates in the book are not all that accurate. Those are accepted dates not factual dates. To give an example. The founding of this country did not occur. The founding fathers were already meeting many years before the advent, the war against England occurred. There was already a plan in place for the founding of new country. It was not just a spur because British soldiers shot someone or the stand-back. It was the series of events that happened over the period of 60 to 70 years. And they have been planning for the long time. What was funny is that George Washington is a blue blood. He gave up his rights in England to be over here. He is a relative of princess Diane, or an ancestor. He is from the same family. Her family was original throne holder in England, and they were French. Throne holders now are German

We are not 6000 years old. In fact, certain portions of government know of cities, places around U.S. There is a policy, not low, policy, that mounds cannot be dug up in the U.S. If you are caught digging up the mound, you are fined and that area is closed off. There are many mounds in New Mexico and any one of them is on Federal Property. There are many of them in Arizona. What lies underneath the White Sands in New Mexico?

We have deep penetrating radar on satellites. We can reach pretty far. They have developed that to determine where the bunkers are in the world, and now they use them for drilling sites. Early on I sow an satellites photograph, they were looking for an expansion on White Sands. There is a bedrock underneath the White Sands, but what is on the bedrock are concentric circles, the four of them, connected by free lines, what's called Broadways. Underneath the mountain what is at the edge of White Sands towards a western side, there are buildings, and the buildings go into the mountain side. They are not ours.
(click on the image of the White Sands on the right to link to White Sands Missile Range website).They do not use word UFO since '60. They do use AVC, what's in for Alien Visitation Craft. UFOs and AVC have not been under the control the U.S. government. It is a private contract with one organization and civil companies. The government does not control that information any longer. That is controlled by the private contract, Stateside and outside, it is international. This gives the government the deniability rights.
The society we live in is a society that keeps us happy, fat, and wanting for more.The human race was not created, born, linked to the apes, we are survivors of a great war. The human race as we see ourselves today, even our ancient relatives, were basically put on this planet and cut-off from the rest of the Universe. If you look at it at this way, we are at outer edge of civilized Space. Individuals and people coming from the inner ring would look at us as we looked at Native Americans when we came over here. We are low class, we are not civilized, we have low technology, we are very barbaric, very warlike. Jet, at the same time we are very unique. We are very special in the scheme of the Universe and civilized galaxy. We are not allowed as humans to space travel after certain point. If we took a human to the Mars, I guarantee you, something will befall us. They will not make it, or something else will happen, or it will happen to the equipment, or we will even not take-off.(on the right is the image of Gullies in Sirenum Fossae Through on Mars that is linked to the article
THE DAY THE NASA INTENDS TO ANNOUNCE
THAT THERE IS A LIFE ON MARS elsewhere on this site).
This we have got from different sources.We have a special gene, that cannot be copied, cannot be manipulated. They have tried. We were told that is called the Jesus gene. Human race has the power to destroy, but also the power to create. I was taught other techniques in NSA that can be taught to anyone, and have the ability to, basically, maneuver and manipulate our environment. Why every time that someone discovers it the which hunters show up?There is a control mechanism that sees that nothing happens without their knowledge and nothing happens for long without them getting control of it. Because once you discover your power and your connection to God, they cannot control you any longer. You are persona non grata.
Atop of that there are several battles going on within the human race in the way of the control, and we call them the Four Horsemen. There are four mayor groups fighting for the control of this planet before our handlers come back.

We have handlers.We were told that there will be great war coming in next few years. We were told this while we were taught our history in NSA. They track history, and history goes thru patterns. People may change, faces my change, technology may change, but the patterns stay in place. There are the world wars that happen every 100 years. Destruction of some kind. It does not mean that it must be a physical war, it can be economic war, it can be anything. This are great upheavals that occur. NSA analysts track this patterns so those on top, that are sometimes called The Watchers, could keep track of what is happening.
This has changed in period from 1983 to 1990.Truman has set-up the NSA so the U.S. could be step ahead of those who would control the world. Truman wanted a program because they sow something and they were told something by the Germans, and they were given documentation by the German special forces, when they captured them. They gave us a lot of stuff. In it they say that there is a spiritual war coming, and it is not the war between humans.I call it a game of Quinns and Kings. Quinns are not human. NSA implies that there is a war coming in and that we have to track this things. And this is what was in the Red Book shown to Gorbachev. We were been given History by the people that believe in the U.S. By 1988 that started changing. Our orders started changing, we started seeing orders coming from foreign parties. Certain portions of NSA and intelligence agencies have been taken over. When I took my oath I was set to protect the constitution from foreign and domestic enemies. By 1990 it was my believe and my partners believe that we had foreign power controlling our government. This power is not a nation per se. There is a group that has civil control, not total control, there is a comity of 12 individuals who pretty well dictate the economic process of this world, that have more control on the U.S. then the U.S. group, that wants to keep this control, really understands.

They have been given major control here in the past 6 years. We were told how our body is a giant computer system, and that it can be corrupted. When we are born in the body that is created in the womb, our soul cannot inhabit that body totally until the age of 6. If you think about that when the children start to go to kindergarten?

At that time children know all the languages of the world, if you put baby babble on the tape you will hear every language spoken. The brain of the child is trying to learn what you speak. Brain is self replicating, self learning organism that learns actions, abilities, how to react in civilized world, by what is seeing, touching, feeling, tasting and speaking.


We have our History, we have been told, in place, but we have not been told how to read it.

What did they confuse at the Tower of Babel? There was one speech and one language.

They did not disrupt the speech, they disrupted the language, which means how the brain functions. They have rewired the brain. But, that language is still within us.
Some people have unlocked it and they can use it. Sometimes when you see certain symbols of it would embark emotional response from the physical body.

Sabrina

1/26/2007 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Extraordinary Ability


There are people who have extraordinary abilities. By this, I mean things most average everyday people disregard. Natural telekinesis, pyrokinesis, extreme clairvoyance, way above average perceptions, clairaudience, the ability to put thoughts in or will the minds of others, the ability to use one's bioelectricity to shut down, disable and/or affect sensitive electrical equipment- computers, televisions and other abilities are all examples of extraordinary ability. These gifts can also result from power meditations.

If you find you have these abilities, keep them to yourself. Unbeknownst to many, the CIA, NSA, and other world powers have programs where they use people with these abilities.* People who have these abilities are a serious threat to the powers that be, because they cannot be controlled. The movie "Hearts in Atlantis" though a work of fiction, has much basis in fact. Gifted people who are under their thumb are able to sense others with the same abilities. There aren't too many people with extraordinary abilities just walking around freely out there. For those with abilities, you know what I am saying- when you come into contact with another person who has these abilities- they could be in the drugstore, supermarket, restaurant- you can sense them and they can sense you. You are aware of each other.

This is because you both have an open energy field. You must program your aura (which is usually very large) to go about undetected if you wish to maintain your privacy. You can also program your aura not to affect electrical equipment unless you intend it to do so. You do this simply by telling it to stop doing what you don't want it to do. This may take several times, but should be effective.

The same goes for thought reading. You program your aura so others cannot pick up on your thoughts. Of course, one with a much stronger energy field can overpower someone who is weaker, regardless of programming, but programming to go undetected should serve its purpose here.

The USA, world powers, even China have programs where they employ psychics and those with abilities that one only sees in the movies. These people do not have freedom. They are used and many times murdered when they no longer serve a useful purpose to their employers.¹

Father Satan works with and protects those who have abilities. He protects us and when we are ready, he works to show us how we can empower ourselves to our fullest extent. Those who are without go it alone and their lives usually end in disaster.

Those in power deny the existence of this kind of thing, making public statements that it was a "failure" and so on. This is not true.²

For those of you with exceptional ability (very few in this group- you know who you are) I strongly encourage you to dedicate your abilities to Father Satan in a ritual. He will protect you, work with you, and guide you. This can be a lonely road, as others freak, are shocked, and/or become frightened.
When others know our secrets, they have power over us. Remember this. Keep your secrets and you never have to worry. Above all- to the kids here- learn to develop control. Don't ever brag or show off. You can come to the attention of the wrong people.Like Vance was followed by the n s a spooks.

1/26/2007 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

iridescent cuttlefish said...
Shrub,
"Is Johnson kosher?" is a less personal question, if you ask me...


Good point, IC. I have a question for you. Do the sexymaenads weigh as much as a duck? If so, what are we to do?

1/26/2007 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are wasting your time with all the girly questions because its.....

WAR STORY TIME

The Land
Taiwan has so many missiles aimed at it the first devastating assualt will capitulate the heads of the military and government.


Stolen Information
Los Alamos
Lots of spies caught, how many got away?
Dual technologies Clinton gave them, ect., ect.

The AIR
Taking apart the spy plane and reverse engineering what the can glean.

Those enigmatic Chinese what is up with them , they have lots of money and stolen technologie, lets see what they are doing, OK?

The Sea
Chinese Submarine just pops up out of the water UNDETECTED within 5km of the Kitty Hawk.
Caught with his pants down the Capt. of the Kitty said they wer not doing submarine ops.
WTF?
Wrong answer.
and now

we read

and now SPACE
Chinese Missile Blows Up Own Satellite, Tensions Rise

The Chinese have destroyed one of their own aging satellites orbiting more than 530 miles from the Earth by using a ground based missile in a demonstration of their anti-satellite technology.


The US and others criticized China for the move. The US stopped blowing up its own satellites in the 1980s, partially due to the large orbiting debris clouds that resulted from the practice. The test also highlights the US's vulnerability to anti-satellite weapons.


"American satellites are the soft underbelly of our national security," said
Rep. Edward Markey. Another remarked "The Chinese are telling the Pentagon that they don't own space."

An army of 200 million Chinese may soon be asserting dominance.
Of course they will exhaust the west in a protracted war.

They are saying we are here too.

Lots of players and there can only be 1 winner.

Sabrina

1/26/2007 02:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

For those of you with exceptional ability (very few in this group- you know who you are)

I know you know I'm one of them....but I will bow to no man, or god....and that includes Satan. Some of your advice is wise since it involves empowerment, but you preclude/negate that empowerment when you suggest a submission to a deity, i.e. satan.

I hope there are no kids out there reading any of this. If so, you can't take this all seriously, kids.

The world will use you, whether it be Christians, Satanists, Fascists, Communists, Corporatists.....the list goes on and on.

There are agendas everywhere you look....the trick is to spot them and avoid them, because 99.9% of the time, the agenda seeks to exploit you in some manner without your conscious approval.

1/26/2007 02:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CHINAWATCH

The People's Republic of China (PRC) is seen by many as an economic powerhouse with the world's largest standing military that has the potential to translate economic power into the military sphere. As one of the elements of power, a nation's military potential is based not only on its capability to defeat an adversary, but also its ability to coerce and exercise influence. China's standing armed force of some 2.8 million active soldiers in uniform is the largest military force in the world. Approximately 1 million reservists and some 15 million militia back them up. With a population of over 1.2 billion people, China also has a potential manpower base of another 200 million males fit for military service available at any time. In addition to this wealth of manpower, China is a nuclear power. It has enough megatonnage, missiles, and bombers to hit the United States, Europe, its Asian neighbors, and Russia.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/doctrine/chinamil.htm
CHINA'S MILITARY POTENTIAL: Foreword and Summary

Freyja

1/26/2007 02:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

You are wasting your time with all the girly questions because its.....

No, I'm not.....I'm playing...just as you are.

I agree with you and your alleged Merry Maidens that you should trust no one.....and that no one includes you and satan.

See, in the paranoid universe that is my reality, intelligence service dolts scour the blaughosphere casting their nets in hopes of capturing/containing the easy fish...which are most. I don't preclude the notion that you and your gang may be just that....and may not even be female.

See, I'm trusting no one and relying on my instincts. Can't fault me for that, can you?

1/26/2007 02:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We mean those who are without, like you.

We don't want the ufo's to take you , shrubbiebubbie.

We know you can see the future, THE PLANE CRASH DREAM YOU HAD, remember.
So we know you in particular are able at times to be psychic, OK.

Now lets say you can levitate or look ar a candle and make it go out (pyrokinesis) or snuff it out with mind power.

Keep it to yourself, it is safer
ages 16-120.

sexymaenads

1/26/2007 02:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

There's only one way to stop the Chinese.....and that is to adopt more of their unwanted childen. We already adopt a significant number of their children here in the states, but we need to increase the rate ten thousand fold. As an added side benefit, think of how the test scores will sky rocket in public schools.

1/26/2007 02:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

We mean those who are without, like you.

Okay, I can live with the fact that I didn't make the cut. Sure, my weekend is ruined, but who here is exceptional, then?

Is it Cuttlefish? Oarwell? Richard? Inquiring Mind? Jeff? Jeff's wife? Starroute? Sounder?
Jules? Silverfox? Tsoldrin? Humblenotry? Vemrion? Raul?
Spermigeddon? The Many Mojos? Silly Rabbit? Amanda? EricSwan? SynDiesel The Prussian?

I need to know!!

Hail Shrubageddon!!

1/26/2007 02:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are here to learn and teach if at all possible.

We are not here to tell you how to feel, think, act, believe or deny.
You are an individual.
Only you have that right, OK.

Spiritual Satanism strongly advocates all learning, knowledge, inquiry, and free thought.

Spiritual Satanism supports the separation of church and state. Satanists do not push Satanism or prosyletize.We need you not.



Spiritual Satanism, like "Traditional Satanism," differs from LaVeyan Satanism.

We are aware of the existence of Satan/Lucifer as an actual being.

We are not atheists!

In spite of major discrepancies, the Church of Satan, founded 1966, by Anton Szandor LaVey, presently takes an atheistic stance as far as external deities are concerned, and views Satan as only an “archetype.”

In light of new knowledge based upon hundreds of hours of intense and in-depth research, we have discovered the following:

1. Satan is our True Creator God.
"YHVH" otherwise known as "Jehova" by the deluded, is a false entity. "YHVH" stands for the four elements and corners in the popular Jewish systems of magick that are available to the public.

2. The character "Jesus Christ" is fictitious and was stolen from some 18+ Pagan legends of a God hanging from a tree, such as Odin, then being resurrected, and is another description of the alchemical operation of transforming the soul- death and then resurrection.
The nazarene is and has never been anything more than a tool to remove all true spiritual knowledge and disarm the populace of their spiritual powers. Humanity has paid to the tune of trillions upon trillions of dollars, and with sickness, misery, and suffering due to the removal of this knowledge. Spiritual knowledge was systematically destroyed, twisted, and corrupted to SPIRITUALLY AND FINANCIALLY ENSLAVE US ALL. By force-feeding the populace that the Nazarene is a real entity, those at the top have maintained control and have reaped untold wealth and power.

3. True Satanism preceded Christianity by thousands of years and is based upon total transformation of the soul. Christians are deluded into "accepting Jesus Christ" and "living saved" which is all false. Everything in the Christian religion is false and we prove this beyond all doubts. The Christian "saved" hoax is based upon stolen and corrupted knowledge of alchemy, where one truly works spiritually to transform one's soul into godhead.

Many Traditional Satanists worship Satan/Lucifer. Some acknowledge him as a friend and do not worship. We respect individuality and personal choices. One's relationship with Satan/Lucifer is up to the individual, as Satanism values free thought and individuality.

Satan is the bringer of knowledge. The goal of Spiritual Satanism is to apply this knowledge and transform our souls into godhead, as was originally intended by our Creator God Satan.

Unlike most religions, Spiritual Satanism encourages one to question everything. Being one's personal best and exceeding limitations are the essence of Spiritual Satanism and this begins with using one's brains to their maximum potential.
Spiritual Satanism does not in any way conflict with science. We strongly encourage and support all scientific knowledge and enquiry. We are well aware humanity is dangerously behind in scientific knowledge and understanding due to centuries of oppression by Christianity. We believe that all spiritual and paranormal phenomena can be scientifically explained in a rational manner; scientific knowledge has not yet progressed far enough to comprehend or explain much of the so-called "supernatural."

There are no mediators in Spiritual Satanism. We strongly encourage our people to interact one on one with Satan.

One's relationship with Satan is between that individual and Satan.

We take the stance of

"responsibility to the responsible."

We place no limitations on knowledge or personal power and do everything we can to make all knowledge available to EVERYONE.

Not just a select few who are a self-appointed "elite" as with other religions. Satan encourages self-study, learning, direct experience.

Most Spiritual Satanists make a commitment to Satan. The commitment is very important because Satan protects us as we work to advance our powers. Those who go it alone or without any spiritual protection often meet with disaster. Once one makes a commitment, Demons often guide us and work with us to help us advance. Unlike right hand path religions, Spiritual Satanism encourages action. Satan wants his people to live life to the fullest and to evolve.

Satan is always there for us, but as we progress, he expects us to handle things, as we are able to, for ourselves, using our own powers. Christianity and its cohorts deliberately make cripples out of people. Christians forever rave about how their Nazarene has healed people. These people remain as slaves because they are never taught how to, nor are they required to heal themselves or others. The Nazarene archetype stands for slavery, servitude, and enduring endless abuse in order to program humanity to be the perfect slaves in a new world order. The Nazarene places total emphasis on the "afterlife" in order to create the mindset that the life we are now living does not matter. This frame of mind is essential for enduring all kinds of abuse for the benefit of a few.
"It has served us well, this myth of Christ"
-Pope Leo X (1475-1521)

As for the so-called "miracles" connected with Christianity, any healings have been very few and far in-between. These are also based upon allegories related to transforming one's soul. Any human being with spiritual knowledge and power can accomplish all of the feats attributed to the nazarene in the bible, and more. Most Christians are unaware that they are dealing with nefarious aliens (enemy Nordics also known as "angels" and greys), who put up a show every now and then to give credibility to the lie. With the New Age practitioners, many call upon angels for assistance and learn nothing. The same theme of human ignorance and powerlessness prevails. Satan/Lucifer is the True Creator God of, and the great liberator of humanity. He does not fear humans having spiritual power and knowledge because he is truthful and has nothing to hide.

Satan gives us the knowledge to become independent and free. He directs us to be masters of our own lives and destinies. Satan and his Demons are always there to help us when there are things we cannot yet handle.

Satan keeps his promises; he is consistent and loving with his own. Satan stands for freedom, strength, power, and justice. Satan shows us it is NOT OK for us to take abuse. He shows us that we are deserving of pleasure, happiness and a better life. He created us through genetic engineering, the same as scientists are now creating clones and working with genetics, but only on a much more advanced level.

Many people disregard so-called “occult” power, they do not take it seriously or are otherwise completely ignorant concerning it. The truth is, occult power has been in the hands of a few for centuries. Christianity has been their tool for removing this knowledge from the populace.
Following the removal of knowledge, a fictitious past was invented to keep people from knowing the truth. People who do not understand or are unfamiliar with these skills are at the mercy of those who have them and who are adept at using them. Thousands of years ago in Ancient Egypt, this power was well known and most of the populace knew how to use it. With the arrival of Judeo/Christianity and Islam, knowledge was systematically destroyed wherever it was found.

Cities, libraries, and any other sources of knowledge were destroyed in an attempt to annihilate all knowledge of the Original Gods [who are extraterrestrials] and the powers of the human soul. The Gods who interacted with, intermarried or befriended humanity were cursed and banished.

Humanity has been cut off from our True Creator God Satan and has devolved ever since. The abuse of children, animals, careless destruction and disregard for the environment, the earth, and other living creatures are some of the effects of spiritual degeneration. Thousands of years ago, long before the coming of Judeo/Christianity, humans lived side by side with the Gods in the era known as "The Golden Age."

Satan is the Sumerian God known as "EA" or "ENKI." He is a GOD, not an angel! He has been denigrated and slandered through the centuries with falsehoods and lies. Most people do not know Satan. They believe everything they are told about him without question. Fear is a powerful tool that has been used for centuries to keep humanity away from Satan.

Satan is the most brilliant and powerful of the Gods. He is symbolized by the Water Bearer of the sign of Aquarius, the 11th sign of the Zodiac. Aquarius is the sign of humanity, technology and genius. One of Satan's numbers is 11.

Satan/Enki established the Ancient Egyptian Order of the Serpent, also known as "The Brotherhood of the Snake." Through the millennia, the teachings have been corrupted and no longer resemble the original doctrines. This Order was to bring humanity godly knowledge and power and to complete the Great Work of transforming our souls. This knowledge has been kept in the hands of a few and abused to the detriment of us all under the direction of the enemy gods. People are told if they are given this power, they will abuse it. This is another lie created and spread by those who deliberately use these powers for nefarious ends under the direction of the enemy extraterrestrials masquerading as “jehova” and company. To reveal these well-kept secrets to the average person would assure that those in control would no longer retain their power.

The Gods are an extra-terrestrial humanoid race of beings. In the Christian bible, they are referred to as the "Nephilim." These beings are very evolved, highly advanced, and immensely knowledgable and powerful. They genetically modified their DNA, so they do not age.

In the Simon version of the Necronomicon (this book is based upon Mesopotamian/Sumerian mythology, even though classified as a work of fiction), the phrase: "When the Great Bear hangs low in the sky" refers to the constellation Ursa Major, part of the Big Dipper. When the planets align a certain way, it opens up a travel line for space travelers. People are always looking to the sky for when the Gods will return.

Humanity’s sole purpose was for use as slave laborers in the mines for the Nephilim. We were to be destroyed after the gold mining project was completed. Satan, along with many of the Nephilim fathered children with human mothers. These offspring were known as "Demi-Gods."

Satan is incredibly strong, brilliant, and powerful. He refused to admit defeat. He lost a battle, but not the war. SATAN/LUCIFER STANDS FOR FREEDOM FROM TYRANNY!

DOES SATAN REALLY EXIST?
Yes. He interacts with his Disciples and followers. Many of us have seen him, we have witnessed the so-called supernatural, and we have been given abilities way beyond that of the average person. When we ask, we get answers. Unlike other religions, where followers have to go searching for their gods, Satan/Lucifer comes to us. He lets us know of his presence.

Demons, as opposed to all of the Christian lies, are friends of humanity. Demons, who are the Original Gods, give us much individual attention and protection, once a strong and trusted relationship is established. When we are close to, and under the protection of Satan, he gives us good Demons to work with. Their Sigils contain very important designs of alchemical symbols related to the opening of the soul.

Satan is not "evil," nor is Satan responsible for the multitude of illnesses, diseases, or anything else that afflicts humanity. These afflictions are due to the removal and destruction of ancient knowledge that was replaced with the Christianity programs.

Satanism stands for the balance of spirituality with technology. Without this balance, civilizations eventually collapse.

“Hell” is not a burning lake of fire. Hell is not inside the Earth, as some foolish Christians claim in order to frighten people. The Christian concept of Hell is very ludicrous. Some of us, who are close to Satan, have seen “Hell.” We all seem to have had the same experiences. Some places in Hell are dark and illuminated by a blue light, and in other places, there is daylight. One of Lucifer's colors is blue and Demons often appear with a blue light. Blue is a very spiritual color. I saw people sitting around a table in a bar in Hell, playing cards. The room was smoke filled, these people, already being dead, could smoke to their hearts content. These people were in spirit form. Some visit the earth to help humans who are on the Left Hand Path. This is where Satan keeps his own people until we can reincarnate and evolve into godhead.

"Hell" and the "Lower world" are also allegories for the three lower chakras; "Hell" representing the base chakra. The reason for this is the fiery kundalini serpent lies coiled beneath the base chakra and when roused, it can be scorching hot.

As opposed to hysterical Christian claims, Satanism is not in any way about blood sacrifice. All kinds of murder and living blood sacrifices can be seen all throughout the Judeo/Christian bible. The serpent/snake, which symbolizes Satan, represents the kundalini at the base of the spine, also the DNA. The serpent represents life. When this force is activated, we are healed and enlightened.



We practice power meditation to advance spiritually and to elevate ourselves. Power meditation is as essential for the human soul as food is essential for the human body. The serpent, a symbol of Satan represents the firey kundalini force coiled at the base of the spine, which upon ascending, transforms the human mind and soul to a much higher level of understanding and ability. This is the true meaning of "Raising the Devil." The Serpent symbol of Satan also represents the DNA helix of life.



We take our tenets and practices directly from Satan himself. For far too long, enemies of Satan such as the Christian churches have been at liberty to dictate lies concerning Satan and Satanism. These lies have been the foundation of occult crimes and other heinous acts that they indirectly promote.

True Satanism has been actively and zealously suppressed for centuries and MANY out of ignorance believe lies about Satan and react accordingly.

Spiritual Satanism is a life loving religion. Satan accepts us as we are, but guides us to advance ourselves to where we evolve to a higher level.

Spiritual Satanists are free to live their lives as they choose-

responsibility to the responsible.

We live by natural law and encourage everyone to develop themselves to their fullest extent.

We know we “save” our own souls as opposed to claims of the Nazarene saving anyone. Satanism is based upon the true transformation of the soul through power meditation. The Nazarene is a fictitious entity, whose identity was stolen form some 18+ crucified Pagan Gods, such as Odin, who hung from a tree and is nothing more than a tool to keep humanity under the control of a chosen few. The Nazarene has been used in Christian masses and services as a substitute for a human living blood sacrifice, revealing THEIR true purpose.

The Judeo/Christian religion is a vicious hoax on humanity of catastrophic proportions. For a hoax to succeed there has to be a lack of knowledge on the part of the victim. The Christian religion and its cohorts actively suppress knowledge and FREE thought, encourage people to be SLAVES, and never advocate or teach anything for the betterment or advancement of humanity. As opposed to the stories of how the Nazarene healed people; Satan shows us how we can heal ourselves and perform so-called miracles, using our minds and the powers of our own souls.

Through empowering ourselves, we have confidence, self-respect and achieve spiritual advancement and independence.

Spiritual Satanism places no limits on developing the powers of the mind- known as "witchcraft" or "magick." We believe in justice and just as martial artists are versed in the uses of Dim Mak and other aspects of physical combat, Spiritual Satanists are versed in the Black Arts of "magick" should they ever need them. People who are unaware of these powers are defenseless against them, and the powers that be know this all too well.

Spiritual Satanism does not in any way condone spirit abuse as taught in the classical grimoires. The Demons who were bound and compelled to do the bidding of the sorcerers are now free and anyone using the nine-foot circle methods and "Jehova" names is inviting personal disaster. The Demons are our friends and with respect and reverence in summoning through Satan, we seek to establish mutually beneficial relationships with them.

Spiritual Satanism advocates individuality, liberty, and independence.

It is obvious that Satan is not the "deceiver of humanity." His followers have been few in number and he doesn't need copious amounts of wealth, power and control to keep his followers.

Sabrina

1/26/2007 02:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone who cares to read, although no one in particular.
We do not play favorites.

Everyone is a player in the game of life.

Could be a lurker maybe gleaning valuable information that was formerly occultic.

Anyone who says they are pure and white as the driven snow is full of it.

There is positive and negative in all of us.

This means we all must work at becoming better, after all who else will do that for us.

There is no magic prayer!

Freedom means Independence and that is very scary for so many people,
to break away.

Most of us but not all made our choices ourselves after much reading and research.We are also still learning.

sabrina

1/26/2007 02:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

All of what Sabrina just said is true.....but what is also true is that you don't need to submit to a non-existent deity for it to manifest.

Empowerment, Self-Determination, Continual Learning are all yours if you care to pursue them. You don't need to submit to a deity to have it.....it's free.

1/26/2007 02:55:00 PM  
Anonymous slimebucket-dwelling coelocanth said...

"Satanists do not push Satanism or prosyletize"

That's damn funny considering that the 18,000+ pages of text you've posted here look an awful lot like "prosyletizing."

One thing I can say about Satanists is that y'all believe the Biblical twaddle as much, if not more, than the most rabid fundie christian woo-woo.

Y'know, at first I pictured you as some pot-bellied bald guy sitting in front of his computer wearing his secret panty & bra & wanking it as he played a dirty talking female.

I've since changed my opinion, because only a woman would ramble on & fucking on & fucking on ad nauseum.

1/26/2007 03:23:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Shrub,

Only if she floats.

I think you hit the nail on the head with those sexy satanists--no matter how they gussy it up, it's still submission they're after. In one of their many recent missives they mentioned that fact that once you open your heart to the dark lord, you can't ever go back to who you were. While one-way tickets might be an interesting way to travel, the astral paths are best traveled free of chains that bind, as my old wizard mentor used to say. Also, this bit of underworld prosyletizing is more than a bit misleading:

The Nazarene archetype stands for slavery, servitude, and enduring endless abuse in order to program humanity to be the perfect slaves in a new world order. The Nazarene places total emphasis on the "afterlife" in order to create the mindset that the life we are now living does not matter. This frame of mind is essential for enduring all kinds of abuse for the benefit of a few.
"It has served us well, this myth of Christ"
-Pope Leo X (1475-1521)


No one questions that much bad use has been made of good things; Christianity, for example, has caused more death & destruction than any other world religion, but those church leaders were themselves opportunistic abominations, against which the Nazarene always warned. The real Jesus, so far as He is discernible in the shrouded architecture of conspiracy theology, was not about submitting to authority. That crap from Paul that slaveowners in the 1850s used to justify the most unjust institution? Poppycock. Paul came much later.

The real Jesus is the one who chased the moneylenders out of the
temple, the one who told his followers to live like birds of the fields without a care for tomorrow or even their sustenance today. His message was two-fold: all of the law could be boiled down to Love. Love your neighbor as yourself, better known as the Golden Rule (which somehow doesn't get much airplay in most God-fearing denominations) and what this love can do for you. It's a key, you see, to the kingdom of heaven which is within you, right now, not waiting for the afterlife or the blessing of the dirty vicar.

The kingdom of heaven is a new consciousness, our real destiny, where our creative powers will finally be exercised consciously, not trapped in the bell jars of the pyramid people. Now, I don't have any proof for my interpretation, but where is the evidence of the Nordic aliens/benevolent satan stuff, either? That Chris Moore book I've been talking about recently (Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal ) about makes the case I've just outlined with something that I haven't seen in any of these red waves washing over the RI beach: humor and humility. Always a bit more convincing than fire & brimstone, regardless of which "side" uses it.

If it is our destiny to become something more than the beast of burden/sacrificial barbeque snack for the insatiable elite, wouldn't it make more sense that we make the transition on our own terms, not as the bonded servant of any master?

1/26/2007 03:39:00 PM  
Anonymous bilderberger combover said...

Heh, heh - well done slimebucket-dwelling dinofish, you fiiiinally managed to raise a titter here with me and my partners (except - as always! - for Tiny and Muscles. Nothing will ever make either of those guys laugh). Anyway, we were getting pretty bored staring at the back of your head, so thanks again. And sorry if we accidentally typed the word "titter". We'll try and keep it clean next time.

1/26/2007 03:44:00 PM  
Anonymous slimebucket-dwelling coelocanth said...

To bilderberger combover....


Who cares?

or

So what?

or

Fuck off.

1/26/2007 03:50:00 PM  
Anonymous bilderberger combover said...

Slimebucket! I hope that vicious little message to Bilderberger Combover wasn't meant for me.

1/26/2007 03:55:00 PM  
Anonymous bilderberger combover said...

I think it was to me, bilderberg combover, not you, but i could be wrong.

1/26/2007 04:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Reformed Neo Platonist said...

I. Cuttlefish:

As usual, you start off sounding like you might have something true or worthwhile to say, but you immediately descend into half-truths couching utter falsehoods, the classic tactic of the disinforming liar. No different really from the satanic whisperings of wiswas.

Your most recent egregious example.

You began, truthfully enough, when you wrote: "The real Jesus is the one who chased the moneylenders out of the
temple, the one who told his followers to live like birds of the fields without a care for tomorrow or even their sustenance today. His message was two-fold: all of the law could be boiled down to Love. Love your neighbor as yourself, better known as the Golden Rule (which somehow doesn't get much airplay in most God-fearing denominations) and what this love can do for you. It's a key, you see, to the kingdom of heaven which is within you, right now, not waiting for the afterlife..."


HOWSOEVER:

You left out the First Principle of that "two-fold" truth which Jesus articulated, namely:

"Love thy God with all thy heart, with all thy mind, and with all thy soul."

That is why the Rembrandt engravings showing Jesus teaching in the marketplace depict him holding up two fingers - one for the first rule above, and the other for the Golden Rule which follows from the first principle.

For it to be any other way, man or woman is only constructing an idol of him or her self.

And that, it seems, is indeed the actual purpose of the majority of the posters on this boggy blogg, you among them.

It will never wash.

The universe is simply not constructed that way.

Too bad you are too busy cuddling up to your predator species to have either the sense or the courage to state the truth unabashed. But then, the boys might not let you sit at their table in the Jr. High School cafeteria, and they might snap your shorts in gym class, eh?

Nancy boy, indeed. Not gay, necessarily. Just a gutless wuss, who sucks at the tit of darkness and calls it light.

I believe that is in fact the Luciferian screed, isn't it?

La ilaha illa Llah

1/26/2007 05:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Murid Murshid said...

Sorry, a key word was missing from the last post. It's in italics below:

I. Cuttlefish:

As usual, you start off sounding like you might have something true or worthwhile to say, but you immediately descend into half-truths couching utter falsehoods, the classic tactic of the disinforming liar. No different really from the satanic whisperings of wiswas.

Your most recent egregious example:

You began, truthfully enough, when you wrote: "The real Jesus is the one who chased the moneylenders out of the temple, the one who told his followers to live like birds of the fields without a care for tomorrow or even their sustenance today. His message was two-fold: all of the law could be boiled down to Love. Love your neighbor as yourself, better known as the Golden Rule (which somehow doesn't get much airplay in most God-fearing denominations) and what this love can do for you. It's a key, you see, to the kingdom of heaven which is within you, right now, not waiting for the afterlife..."

HOWSOEVER:

You left out the First Principle of that "two-fold" truth which Jesus articulated, namely:

"Love thy God with all thy heart, with all thy mind, and with all thy soul."

That is why the Rembrandt engravings showing Jesus teaching in the marketplace depict him holding up two fingers - one for the first rule above, and the other for the Golden Rule which follows from the first principle.

For it to be any other way, man or woman is only constructing an idol of him or her self.

And that, it seems, is indeed the actual purpose of the majority of the posters on this boggy blogg, you among them.

It will never wash.

The universe is simply not constructed that way.

Too bad you are too busy cuddling up to your predator species to have either the sense or the courage to state the truth unabashed. But then, the bad boys might not let you sit at their table in the Jr. High School cafeteria, and they might snap your shorts in gym class, eh?

Nancy boy, indeed. Not gay, necessarily. Just a gutless wuss, who sucks at the tit of darkness and calls it light.

I believe that is in fact the Luciferian screed, isn't it?

La ilaha illa Llah

1/26/2007 05:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The unstoppable even rabid calculation of defaming ol IC is the evil thing to remark upon: it's the troll on patrol. word to the wise. don't feed the troll, and continue our interesting conversations without it. I'm not talking to the troll and will not respond to anything about this.

1/26/2007 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is an onslaught by alphabets, a psy-op. The internet agenda is huge for them. It can be seen no matter where one goes.

The irony is that those running websites don't seem to have a clue, and if they do, they seem to go in denial and never even try to put a stop to it.

So in a way, it is really Jeff Wells and this whole Rigorous Intuition entity that has a lot of explaining to do. But I predict he will only do something once people start to realise that all websites are targeted by such alphabets.

There comes a point when one realises this onslaught is extensive. If enough people speak out, then Wells would be forced to do something. Thus, the longer this goes on both here and on his forum, the more his own "work" will increasingly have to be considered as being derived from similar sources.

1/26/2007 06:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With Liberty and Justice for Oil………..
Mesa official gets threats after boycott of Pledge
Police are assessing the threats that came after Rawles refused to stand for the Pledge to protest U.S. involvement in the Iraq war. He said he will not stand until U.S. troops come home or his term ends, on Dec. 31, 2008. …………….
The Arizona Republic
Jan. 26, 2007
Mesa Councilman Tom Rawles is under 24-hour police protection after receiving threats in newspaper online chats, blogs and in a phone call for refusing to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
Police are assessing the threats that came after Rawles refused to stand for the Pledge to protest U.S. involvement in the Iraq war. He said he will not stand until U.S. troops come home or his term ends, on Dec. 31, 2008. …………….

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/0126rawlesthreats0126.html

1/26/2007 06:40:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

IC I have a really hard job requiring much physical labour. The job is much wear and tear on the body politic. I unload trailers of grocery, furniture and sundries to fill a store 130,000 square feet and feeds 30,000 people per week. A cog in the wheel and the weil is weak.
I only mention this as I have tried in vain to post my thoughts on solving THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS to your blog. It's not working and your profile has no email?????

I don't see how we can begin to solve the world's problems when you seem to have difficulty "owning" the person that you are.

For the mighty...please consider the nature of God in light of the evidence. He is the All in His creation. He left nothing to chance. He put it ALL out. Are the parts greater than the whole.

When Cassandra was pressed by the gods as to who enjoyed sex more; man or woman, she answered women which is why she is blind to this day.

1/26/2007 06:42:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

I see that our tax dollars are hard at work. Might as well, won't be worth much soon enough anyway.

1/26/2007 06:47:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

anon 6:24 said;

"Thus, the longer this goes on both here and on his forum, the more his own "work" will increasingly have to be considered as being derived from similar sources."

Please sir/madam; realize that everybody that is truly inquisitive can expect to get some pushback. It is in learning to develop grace in responding to what is perhaps 'evil' that we learn discrimination.

The people that sow divisiveness and hate will become an object lesson in failure as we learn both how and why to LOVE and let live.

The other is no threat; it is the source of our salvation.

Think resonance.

1/26/2007 07:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

posted by sounder:

"Please sir/madam; realize that everybody that is truly inquisitive can expect to get some pushback. It is in learning to develop grace in responding to what is perhaps 'evil' that we learn discrimination. The people that sow divisiveness and hate will become an object lesson in failure as we learn both how and why to LOVE and let live. The other is no threat; it is the source of our salvation. Think resonance."

Thank you for supporting my point that the internet is under attack by alphabets. You did this with your own version of it. I'm not saying you personally are from an alphabet spamming company, but your response sure fit what could be expected from such cretins.

Jeff Wells should just shut down the comments to his blog and take control of the forum. Otherwise, he is coming across as no different than any other dead-end rabbit hole source. People are sick of the psy-ops. It's not that many are not aware of it. You a-whats are just not as clever as you think. Sure, you have the numbers and all the fake characters. That's why not too many real people are posting on blogs.

So this is on Jeff Wells. It's not looking good Jeff. You can either take this as constructive criticism or you won't see this anyway due to being lost in the never ending psy-op spam or worst case scenario, you are in on this.

That is called reality.

1/26/2007 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More petty divisiveness: now 'it' attacks Jeff! How dull and predictable. That's why 'it' is here anyway. Just ignore it. As I will, and will not respond to it.

No one should shut down any commentary simply because perpetual adolescents--covering up treason for a salary and they know it--in the intelligence services--want so.

"Why does treason never prosper, because when it prospers none dare call it treason."

A corollary to that well known phrase, updated to the web, would be:

Why do does treason never prosper in the media, because when it prospers it takes over the media and psyop bombs the remaining bits of open conversation."

Not very poetic, I'll grant though it's not a poetic topic. It's just a attempt to make a basket case of any workable conversation about all the VERY REAL HIGH WEIRDNESS that Jeff (and everyone here) should commend themselves for linking, exposing, amalgamating...

For content while Jeff is recovering from carpal tunnel of the brain, Alex Jones' film on JFK, with these caveats is a recommended view.

1/26/2007 09:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not attacking Jeff Wells if he cleans it up. It is a common tactic of fakes to characterize the honest critical thinker as being a paid operative. Like I said before, you're not as clever as you think you are. You can take your Satanic propaganda and shove it. Again, none of you are that clever. Real people can see through this. You taint everything that is true by turning it into tinfoil. You name the topic, chemtrails, JFK assassination, white house iraq group, any real conspiracy you want, and the main tactic is to get any of the curious off the path to the answers.

Again, you are not that clever.

1/26/2007 09:18:00 PM  
Anonymous slimebucket-dwelling coelocanth said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nuMAooG6SM&eurl=

"Dramatic footage of mostly Shi'a Iraqi soldiers delivering a "brutal beating" to several local Sunnis has been obtained by a British public-service television station.

US soldiers, assigned to train the Iraqi troops, look on as the Iraqi soldiers push the beaten men into the rear compartment of an armored vehicle.

"It is a shocking insight into the sectarian violence that is tearing Baghdad apart," Jonathan Miller reports for Channel Four. "Two journalists - embedded with the First Cavalry division - witnessed suspected insurgents being viciously beaten and abused."

According to Channel Four, American troops then threatened the journalists and held them under armed guard, while attempting to "seize their footage."

"US Army commander Lieutenant Colonel Dale C Kuehl told Channel 4 News he had taken administrative action to include suspending the platoon sergeant," Channel Four reports."

1/26/2007 10:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Warhol said...

Long, fairly balanced article on mind control, in the Wash Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/10/AR2007011001399_5.html

Anyone here ever read '1996' by Gloria Naylor? She was a succesful author, who in the mid-90s thought she was being mind-controlled.

1/26/2007 11:28:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Someone looking for my goat said:

HOWSOEVER:

You left out the First Principle of that "two-fold" truth which Jesus articulated, namely:

"Love thy God with all thy heart, with all thy mind, and with all thy soul."

That is why the Rembrandt engravings showing Jesus teaching in the marketplace depict him holding up two fingers - one for the first rule above, and the other for the Golden Rule which follows from the first principle.



You’re right, of course, about "Love thy God with all thy heart, with all thy mind, and with all thy soul," but God is love, so the act of loving is following that instruction, right? Kind of like Bucky Fuller calling God a verb. Ego (at least the way it’s currently configured) doesn’t get to enter into the kingdom. This is what I was getting at with Sounder when I was talking about ego-death, which I think he misconstrued. While most folks are somewhat familiar with the Buddhist conception of ego-death, Andrew Mount looks at the idea more in the way I meant in his brilliant Fear of Free Energy essay:

...the ego, or limited idea of self, often holds dominant sway over our lives. We cling to our assumed roles and, in the most extreme examples, will destroy all threats to the ego-centric character structure. Whether by reinforcing delusion and denial, or actually eliminating the objects of our fear, the ego is intent on self-preservation.

When a society becomes comfortable with its own self-destruction due to the collective fear of transcendence, there is an odd parallel with the death of the ego. We see our species struggling to shed the pre-occupations of its past, simultaneously risking an era of stillborn possibilities. Petroleum politics are a perfect example of this fear-based attachment to what is familiar. It appears we might rather live in the prison of ecological suicide and artificially imposed poverty than admit the old order must die.


Even if we say that we’re comfortable with this position, we tend to scratch our heads and mumble about broken bits of the old order when we consider what the new order will look like. This is understandable enough, however, since it’s all we have to go on—what we already know. It is exceedingly difficult to let go of cherished notions and firmly held beliefs (well, except for those wise enough to admit they know nothing), but this is just what is needed if we are to transcend what we are.

Mount goes on to talk about what the new way might look like when he says:

Free Energy is an expression of the Generative Principle in nature. It is viewed as the primordial force behind all energy of celestial, chemical, geological and biological origin. Often referred to as the Quantum Vacuum or Zero Point Energy, its properties are only partially understood by Physics. As one is asked to embrace the existence of this field of virtually unlimited potential, those schooled in the conventional view of nature cannot escape the sense that it is as much a religious quantity as a scientific one.

There are some scientists willing to think in these terms, but not very many. Most of them are as bought & sold as the politicians who also work for Big Biz.

Tell you what: stop trying to get my goat to do unnatural things and continue with that thought you started out with before you went after my ego. If you complain about the nature of this "boggy blog" and you really are interested in this notion of the kingdom, tell us what you think it means instead that other nonsense. I would think that Mount’s Generative Principle would be far more worthy of your time than the ridiculous notion that people using asinine screen names are making idols of themselves.

I know I always annoy the don’t-feed-the-trolls crowd when I respond, but you said something that had some substance before you lapsed back into the obligatory attack mode. No one’s going to go away or stop talking because you insult them, so add your two cents and get on with it already.


Now to the person attacking sounder and suggesting the comments be turned off:

What gives? Sounder has a blog of his own—why do you think he’s a spamming machine? Also, the logic in this sentiment is beyond me (which maybe isn’t saying much, but still):

Jeff Wells should just shut down the comments to his blog and take control of the forum. Otherwise, he is coming across as no different than any other dead-end rabbit hole source. People are sick of the psy-ops. It's not that many are not aware of it. You a-whats are just not as clever as you think. Sure, you have the numbers and all the fake characters. That's why not too many real people are posting on blogs.

So, if Jeff shuts down the comments, this will further communication among those preyed upon by agents of disinfo because…no one will be able to communicate? We’ve been through this discussion many, many times. If someone has something to say, why shouldn’t they be allowed to? (Unless they break whatever rules the host has set up, or if their communication consists entirely of attacking people, etc.)

Maybe I’m missing your point here; I just can’t understand how shutting anything down is going to help communication. Or is that not what needs protecting? As above, please enlighten.

1/27/2007 12:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Sunshine is the best disinfectant said...

"I'm not attacking Jeff Wells if he cleans it up."

Nonsense. You'd attack anyone without provocation as we already have seen.

"Clean it up"? Censor? We like it dirty and real here. Or rather, it's not that we like it, we would like to see it gets cleaned up. Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

Go away paid censorship whore or pimp, traitor to everything.

Every topic you mentioned is as real as it gets. Think for yourself and you'll be amazed how lovely it is.

We ain't living a consensus reality. Hopefully we can work for it.

Most elites now are as psychopathic, sociopathic, and evil as they come.

Compromised by Bohemian Grove sex tapes and blackmail.

Compromised by drug dealing coverups.

Compromised by their own pedophilia (like Republican Foley, who was only tip of the iceberg.)

There are loyal FBI and CIA out there. A lot of the leaks that came from everything dealing with this are because there is an unofficial war going on in the US intelligence services for the soul of the USA against these groups. They have stopped terror events by the Bush groups, and they have outed some strategically like Foley. This I have gathered from some reading about it.

Other countries have their own version of the network of pedophiles, for instance in Belgium. where Marc Dutroux was involved as only as a lower level grunt for the operation in Belgium for instance.

Jeff has talked about Mexican high level pedophile elites in his NoBorderland" post, which is worth rereading--and for the comments about Bohemian Grove.

The good done here is exposing and delegitimating all the falseness stomached for over 100 years of an ever consolidating media you think represented "reality."


GATEKEEPING 101, lesson one, case study

Sean Hannity Fox News Shills for Bohemian Grove
5:41 min
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cJqPowtmK2M

This gets hilarious. Classic issue of media gatekeeping, which we do not like here. Sean Hannity at some points quaking and terrified. It's damn real and he shows it. Sean Hannity admits "being invited..."--- though he's never gone he then attempts to pawn off. I love the 'caller that won't let go' on the issue, call after call after call, until Hannity seems like he's about to cry knowing that HE'S OWNED. Glad this little excerpt off all the times was put together.

GATEKEEPING 101, lesson two, case study

Bohemian Grove Up Your Ass Says Rick Roberts
3:12 min

A California 'shock jock' seriously coming unhinged. (Bohemian Grove is of course in Northern California). What is really shocking is how 'out of the blue' psychotic the radio show personality sounds, he turns on a dime, like you touched his flesh wound or something.

(Bohemian Grove was started by journalists and actors; soon to be an elite homosexual corporate international elite retreat, getting occult by turn of the century (perhaps earlier from the start), seances to the Devil on posters tacked to the trees, and the "Cremation of Care" mock sacrifice from 1899, and the Owl is in photos as early as 1925 (supposedly made of plaster of paris, according to detailed video leaked of its 'insides' where lots of stage props and electrical equipment for lighting is now housed) Always remember the double use of symbols--the multi-layered quality of 'observable reality'-- for instance the Bohemian Grove logo becomes the later National Press Club's logo--replete with the 'eternal flame and owl sitting there just like the redwoods version--so you know who is whose 'biatch' every time those in the know saw the double use of the Boho Grove logo.)

GATEKEEPING 101, lesson three, political assassination or removal

Get Rid of Presidents who aren't your complete puppets

Nixon Tape Discusses Homosexuals at Bohemian Grove
:38 sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPb-PN9F2Pc&NR

Great little clip. Nixon removed, because it would be "a little suspicious" to murder two presidents almost back to back in less than ten years by the intelligence services. They let him go, because Nixon was sponsored into politics by Bonesman Prescott Bush, grandfather of George W. Bush, father of George H. W. Bush. The Bushes father/grandfather was a Nazi traitor banker, as we discussed in just the previous line of comments of this blog.

The more bloody assassinations are always reserved it seems for those whose opposition is far more independent. JFK beat out Nixon, likely with a bit of vote fraud in Chicago thanks to the Mob. Bush/Nixon networks already pissed. JFK made them pissed even more--pissed enough to have the CIA and FBI and the Mob kill off your President when they refuse to "go to form" to what other's want them to do like this secret elite. It seemed "insurance" somewhat that Kennedy Senior was seemingly wise to what was going on, though it still didn't help when his son started doing independent policy like refusing to back up a rogue CIA invasion of Cuba with the rest of the U.S. military.
George H. W. Bush was CORE to the failed Bay of Pigs. They blamed JFK. Those disgruntled CIA networks around the Bushes, already mad about Nixon losing in 1960 to JFK, as well as JFK's moves to tax oil depletions as well as seemingly move the currency away from the Federal Reserve Mafia, all led to the 'Bush league' CIA killing President Kennedy when he was in Texas.

Great books to read--for the next class....of GATEKEEPING 101:

1.

Barry & 'the Boys': The CIA, the Mob and America's Secret History by Daniel Hopsicker, someone even Jeff mentions occasionally. Some review excerpts from the link:

Our government is in the hands of a criminal family. [And with the self-appointed dictatorial empire of the USA over the world, everyone should know this history.] This book makes that clear. This book is about a lot more than Barry Seal, and for further discussion of what this book IS about, you can join the email list CIA_DRUGS@yahoogroups.com

This book covers a span of time that begins pretty much with the cold war, but it's really the root of a lot of stuff that is going on today. Barry Seal was dealing drugs for George Bush. Barry Seal was involved with Iran-Contra. Barry Seal's assassination was ordered by Oliver North. Running drugs in and through this country has financed covert operations that would be beyond imagination if they weren't all too true. If your family has been torched by the scourge of drug addiction (as too many families have been) you can not afford to turn away from this horrendous truth. Even more, it is no small detail that Afghanistan is known for its opium production. It's important to know this, and to learn as much as possible about it. Even more important is to work together to figure out what on earth we are going to DO about it -- beside "Pledging Allegiance to the Flag." There's a lot more to this flag than flying it -- and a lot more to democracy than voting. We're losing our freedoms, we're losing our country, and we are losing our lives to a conspiracy that is a lot more than a theory. Read this book....Do your own reading. Maybe we can figure out what to do before it's too late. With liberty, and justice, for ALL.

...

"Barry & `the Boys': the CIA, the Mob, and America's Secret History" is a book that will expand the audience for parapolitical literature.

"Barry and the Boys" is written to appeal to the serious student of Deep Political arrangements as well as the "casual interest" reader looking for something to help him or her understand today's news while simultaneously being entertained.

This journalistic tour de force presents the story of Barry Seal's career in intelligence and drug and gun running - from its inception as a teenager working along side Lee Oswald in the New Orleans CAP under [pedophile coaching/recruiting CIA mind control agent] David Ferrie, to its conclusion, "in a hail of bullets, with George Bush's private phone number in his wallet."

It is rare these days for a single work to offer more than a few minor details of new information to add to our overall understanding of cold war crimes of State. It is even more rare to find a book in this category that satisfies both the intellect's need for new information and the heart's desire for human interest and style. Hopsicker's work - the result of two and a half years of full-time field investigation, living out of suitcases and pushing the limits of his own personal safety in his quest for "the story" - delivers all of this by the planeload.

...

And through the judicious use of primary documents (available in a 58-page appendix), many of which have never been made publically available until now, Hopsicker provides corroboration and authentication for his human sources. Among those primary documents, the one on the cover is a doozey: a group portrait of 'Operation 40' members [the CIA's JFK Assassination Hit Squad] at a January 22, 1963 meeting in Mexico City. (I wonder what they could be talking about?)

"Barry and `the Boys'" presents all of this material in a fascinating tapestry of new information and established facts stitched together with incisive wit. The result is an entertaining and illuminating whole, documenting 30 years of a man's life and a nation's peril.

In a perfect world, "Barry and `the Boys'" would be a best seller. In this world, it is still going to do very well.

...

Drugs, guns, and synthetic terror are well presented though difficult to keep all the connections clear.

Highly recommend to all those who know something very fishy is going on within our intelligence/enforcement agencies.

...

This truly outstanding work casts the glare of daylight into the darkest realms of the NSA and CIA's most disgusting crimes.

It exposes the direct connection between the madmen directly responsible for the Vietnam War, the genocide bloodbath of Operation Phoenix, the JFK Assassination, Watergate, Iran Contra, the savings and loan scandal, and BCCI, in addition massive opium, cocaine and marijuana smuggled into the United States through the CIA's Air America, George Bush's Zapata Offshore oil rigs and a private airfield in a remote area of Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton's Arkansas among other avenues.

This work includes an account of George W. and Jeb Bush caught very red-faced and red-handed on videotape unloading bags of freshly smuggled cocaine from an aircraft.


It also discloses the fact that Barry Seal, who videotaped that incident while working with the DEA, later died in a hail of machine-gun bullets with George HW "Poppy" Bush's private phone number in his wallet.

They don't call him "Poppy" [opium Poppy] for nothing.



2.

and, light video watching for the next class


DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE

1 hr 50 min 33 sec - May 28, 2005
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-82095917705734983

--global elites 'mock human sacrifice': first time on tape, by investigative reporters breaking into the 130 year old club; escaped MKULTRAs or escaped kids kidnapped into forced pornography at the Club said that sometimes snuff films (murders) are happening within the Club and its elite truly globalized upper crust, just for fun; the MKULTRAs say sometimes the "Owl Ceremony" or "Cremation of Care" that starts the two week male-only orgy (basically, with some female prostitutes and male porn stars brought in for good measure) is a real human sacrifice of 'broken' MKULTRAS who are no longer pretty or mentally all there from their sexual and mental abuse

3.

The kiddie porn at Bohemian Grove and porno-snuff filming, according to a State Investigator of Nebraska, Ex-Senator John DeCamp, is still going on. Senator DeCamp who wrote a book and likely did a video to save his life--with the death threats that he kept receiving. DeCamp himself was part of Project Phoenix so he had quite a past of being trusted with 'dirty cover up work'--however, even this he couldn't handle and exposed it instead. The gatekept investigation backfired, in other words. DeCamp's ally, another State Investigator, Gary Caradori was "murdered by airplane bomb/sabotage" flying back to Nebraska after making a call that he had the evidence to put the real perps away for good. Caradori--with his young son in the plane--were blown out of the sky and murdered.

The Bush family of course is the first family of crime in the USA. Bush Senior's White House was known for its high level 'midnight tours' of call boy teens and call girl teens if "they were good little kids".

George W. Bush has 'male madams' and male prostitutes like "Jeff Gannon" sleepover, from documented sign in and sign out sheets required by security of all White House visitors.

Blair in the UK has his own pedophile network running with him, that was a scandal in his earliest year at PM.

Sometimes the male prostitute that Bush used in the White House was conveniently there on the days when Blair was visiting Bush at the White House.

Watch the film Conspiracy of Silence to learn what you should have learned back in 1994.

This was the same year the Republican Congress (Republicans and Democrats are inbuilt into the pedophile elite right now) decided to ax this film and they hoped all copies being destroyed. Seems one bad copy escaped. More on how that was done here:

Conspiracy of Silence 2007 (with additional John De Camp excerpt)

For those who have only seen the film, the 60 minutes of DeCamp put at the end is sort of an 'update' that few have seen.

Conspiracy of Silence, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. [and blackmail "we own you now" operations on sitting Congress members.] Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada, and Toronto, Canada. At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who ordered all copies destroyed.

A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired FBI Agent Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by its participants involved.

[Bonus John De Camp interview after the 60 minute mark]


4.

Into the Buzzsaw: Leading Journalists Expose the Myth of a Free Press, ed. by Kristina Borjesson

For this edition, three of the original essays were removed and four new ones added. Many others have been updated, making the book even more pertinent and timely, notably with Michael Levine's contribution on the nation's drug war and Jane Akre's account of her legal battle with Rupert Murdoch over the broadcast of her story on Monsanto's bovine hormone. Each of the new chapters documents how journalists have experienced increased censorship in the aftermath of September 11th: Dan Rather speaks frankly of the pressure to report "friendly" news or risk being labeled unpatriotic; Charles Reina, formerly of Fox News, reveals the existence of "The Memo," a daily Bush-era e-mail "addressing what stories [would] be covered" and how; and MSNBC reporter Ashleigh Banfield relates how her candid, extemporaneous personal observations on media coverage of the Middle East (given in a lecture at Kansas State University) drew the ire of corporate executives. Most disturbing is Charlotte Dennett's analysis of how the media "missed the context" between the Bush administration's war on terror and "the Great Game for oil." In her new introduction, Borjesson notes that the current state of American journalism makes it even more important that the work of investigative journalists and media critics be unreservedly and widely disseminated. As before, Buzzsaw provides a vital perspective on the First Amendment right to a free press and its endangered status today.

The reviews fail to mention that no one wanted to report on how the Bushes were the first family of drug operations for the USA either. I don't know if this updated version has that chapter, since it said some were removed and others added....

5.

....So here's another book "Kiss the Boys Goodbye":

The War on Drugs: An "Intellectual Fraud"

Before the Vietnam "War", the Golden Triangle was run by French Intelligence and Corsican mobsters. After the French bailed out and America moved in, the triangle was run by U.S. intelligence, with aid from Sicilian mobsters. [This connection goes right into 'why' Nancy Pelosi is the head of the Democratic Party presently, her father was the OSS-CIA contact for this drug operation in the U.S. intelligence services allied with protecting mobsters through Baltimore.]

This narcotics network is well documented in "The Politics of Heroin in S. E. Asia" by Alfred McCoy, "The Great Heroin Coup" by Henrik Kruger and "Double-Cross" by Sam and Chuck Giancana.

Vice-President George Bush, as Chairman of President Reagan's cabinet-level working group and as Director of the National Narcotics Interdiction System, was the highest U. S. governmental official involved in the "war on drugs".

Frances Mullen, Jr., former head of the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), called Bush's efforts "an intellectual fraud" and "a liability rather than an asset". Soon after these statements, Mullen resigned and the resultant General Accounting Office (GAO) report was buried.


In July, 1985, the suppressed GAO paper reported that there were "no benefits from the National Narcotics Border Interdiction System, directed by George Bush. In fact, the overall effect was to encourage supply...."

Monika Jensen-Stevenson, a "60 Minutes" producer, quit her job after the CBS news program refused to air the story she had uncovered relating to the covert drug trade.

Her book, "Kiss The Boys Goodbye", details how our intelligence community used the apparatus of the POW/MIA governmental agencies as a cover for the trafficking of opiates from the "Golden Triangle".

President Reagan appointed Reform Party founder and Texas billionaire Ross Perot to the President's Advisory Council on Foreign Intelligence. Reagan made Perot a special presidential investigator, looking into America's POW and MIAs from the Vietnam "War".

Ross took the job to heart and spent considerable time and money in pursuit of the quest.

He was given special clearance and access. He asked questions and interviewed everyone he could find.

From "Kiss The Boys Goodbye":

"Relations between Bush and Perot had gone downhill ever since the Vice-President had asked Ross Perot how his POW/MIA investigations were going.

'Well, George, I go in looking for prisoners,' said Perot, 'but I spend all my time discovering the government has been moving drugs around the world and is involved in illegal arms deals.... I can't get at the prisoners because of the corruption among our own people.'

"This ended Perot's official access to the highly classified files as a one-man presidential investigator.
'I have been instructed to cease and desist,' he had informed the families of missing men early in 1987."

The wholesale importation of cocaine into the U.S. [by the U.S. government] during "Iran/Contra" is also well documented.

George Bush, is known "to be in the loop" with many of the players keeping in contact directly with his office.

Also, there has been much speculation as to the use of the off-shore rigs, pipelines and other assets of Zapata Offshore being used for narcotic trans-shipments [the same place that CIA's George H.W. Bush used to work on the Bay of Pigs invasion--same people then as now].

Narcotics such as cocaine and heroin cannot be manufactured without the precursor chemicals. One of the largest makers of these precursor chemicals is the Eli Lilly Company of Indianapolis, Indiana. The Quayle family is a large stockholder, and George Bush has been on the Board of Directors. Eli Lilly is also the company that first synthesized LSD for the CIA.

1/27/2007 12:40:00 AM  
Blogger Tsoldrin said...

God, Satan, Allah, Yahweh, Jehovah, Elohim, Waheguru, Enki... are all long dead historical/mythological figures and will not be meeting you in the afterlife. In fact, there is no afterlife.

Even the smallest exertion of critical thinking will tell you that absolutely all evidence points to the fact that this is it. Sorry, I know it's scary, but turning away from the truth won't change it. This is all there is and the life you are now living is the only one you're going to get. With that in mind, you might think about making the most use of it, or at the very least, having the most fun, while you can. The only measure of immortality you are likely to have is whatever mark you make on the world through your own personal endeavors.

Once you have come to terms with this basic reality, you can begin to shrug off the shackles off oppression which come with any and all 'belief' systems. It will become painfully obvious to you when your eyes have cleared that at the most, these ancient figures purported to be god are nothing more than tools used by someone, at some period in time, to garner some benefit for themselves.

Likely the figures often attributed godliness were once, in the distant past, some sort of heroic individuals and/or members of a society more advanced than the one raising them to godhood, but there is certainly no indication at all of anyone ever actually being all-knowing, all-seeing or all-powerful. The mere notion of it is in fact, quite ludicrous. IF one were all-knowing, simply conceptualizing anything, including 'creation' would instantly confer the knowledge of everything that would ensue as a result - thus negating the need to even bother with the act, because the outcome is already known.

Anyone with an open mind and a skepticism towards mainstream science can probably see that there was almost certainly previous highly developed societies which predated our own. Likely they did not use the same technologies (just like if you isolated any group of humans now they would devlop differently than the rest... different inventions, different sciences, different everything...) thus we are hard pressed to recognize the few and far between evidence of them, but with a global archaelogical and historical view it is there to see. To relative 'primitives', these folks would seem like gods. For that matter, any technologically superior entities would appear godlike to those ignorant of the technology being used. It's a small leap from such a collision of two wildly disparate societies to that of those in the lesser developed society believing those in the more advanced to be gods (perhaps by design).

Above and beyond all that... after a significant time period, the idea of these hypothetical advanced beings and/or the (possibly exagerated) myths of 'regular folk' performing extraordinary feats (given any decent population size, odds are that someone somewhere will do something exceptional) leaves open the opportunity for enterprising individuals to, through the cunning use of their own words, twist and distort reality, legends and myths to their own uses, as a means of control. These idividuals of course would be priests, shamen, holy men, seers, etc.

I imagine that the first to make use of this type of control was simply a witness of coincidence. Some action was performed before a hunt and a (uncharictaristically ?) good hunt followed. The ground work was laid. Whenever what would become ritual did not work, there was always some contrived thing or someone to blame for the failure. As time went on, this bullshit control mechanism was refined and perfected... even to the point of instilling irrational behavior in people (just watch the news). This IS the cornerstone of all control of human beings. The root 'evil' behind everything. The first step to being truly free is to reject belief outright and completely and embrace rationality. Cold, stark and often terrifying, rational reality is the only step to freedom. Anything else is but an exchange of masters... perhaps moving to one less harsh, but nonetheless still a master.
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Whew... pardon my rant... been irked lately with all the ridiculous religeos mumbo-jumbo masquerading as comments here. Particularly since so many of the purported 'believers' in various bullshit ideologies know so very little about even the things they spout, replacing knowledge with volume in their wholesale cut and paste drivel. A good example of this is the mixing of new age hogwash based on... well, nothing with Satanism, which is only a rebranded form of Christianity, with Sumerian mythology, which predates even the completely undocumented and unlikely first writing of the Old Testament (via Moses) by many centuries. In fact, the Old Testament is largely based on plagiarized material far more ancient than even the languages it was written in (ancient hebrew and aramaic) or the symbols it is written in. Indiscriminate mixing of these mythologies which are sepparated by thousands of years (perspectively much more when you consider that 35 was a 'ripe old age') does nothing IMO but muddy the waters and taint the true historical significance of the older, less popular but likely more accurate accounts of what might have happened.

1/27/2007 01:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Enki, the creator of Humankind.
Those who opposed MAN having GODHEAD changed our human DNA so we die early as even the bible which is stolen indicates, men lived for hundreds of years back them.


These tablets predate the semetic
STOLEN account by 400 years.
GO LOOK AT THE COLLECTION IN NORWAY below.
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http://www.nb.no/baser/schoyen/4/4.3/432.html
The Schoyen Collection: Literature -- 3.2 Babylonian literature

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In later Akkadian or Babylonian Cosmology there were six generations of Gods that led to the creation of the Younger (Igigi) divinities of the Anunaki (Anu = heaven, Na = And, Ki = Earth). In the seventh generation (Akkadian "Shappatu" hence the Hebrew Shabbath => English Sabbath), the younger Gods went on strike, put down their tools and refused to keep the creation working. In the Babylonian creation myth the Enuma Elish, Abzu, the water lord, threatens to take back the creation with a universal flood, but Enki averts the threat by imprisoning Abzu beneath the Earth. Kingu, his son, informs his mother, Abzu's wife, the serpentine Tiamat (Ti = Life, Ama = mother, Biblical tehwom = the deeps), and in anger she threatens to take back the whole of creation. The Gods gather in terror, but Enlil (his place in the Enuma Elish is later taken by Enki's son Marduk) subdues and slays Tiamat with the arrows of his winds which he shoots down her throat.

But the problem created by the "strike of the Gods" remains, how is creation to continue? Enki proposes that the Gods make humankind as their servant, and give humans the task of keeping creation going. It is agreed, and Enki forms humanity out of the red earth (Hebrew Adamah), mingled with the red blood of the God Kingu, slain for his part in Tiamat's attack. Enlil fills his lungs with air (Hebrew ruach, Greek pneuma, Latin spiritus), and humans are alive. In this way, Humanity is given the task of maintaining the balance of nature and keeping the created order in place.

Another myth, "Enki and Adapa", tells of how humanity loses the chance at immortality. Adapa, who is Abgallu (Ab = Water, Gal = Great, Lu = Man) (Akkadian Apkallu), Enki's advisor, to the first king of Eridu, Allulim, inadvertently breaks the wings of the South Wind, Ninlil (See Lilith) (Nin = Lady, Lil = Air), daughter of Anu (the Heavens) and wife to Enlil, King of the Gods. In terror at the thought of their retribution, Adapa seeks the advice of Enki. Enki advises that Adapa make a deep and sincere atonement, but advises Adapa to eat nothing given to him by the Gods, as he will probably be given the food of death, out of their anger at his deeds. Adapa takes Enki's advice, but the Gods, so impressed by the sincerity of Adapa's sorrow and grief as to what he did, offered instead the fruit of immortality. Adapa remembering Enki's words, refuses, and so misses out on the chance of eternal life.



Enki was not perfect, as god of water he had a penchant for beer and as God of SEMEN he had a string of incestuous affairs. In the epic Enki and Ninhursag, he and his consort Ninhursag had a daughter Ninsar. When Ninhursag left him he came upon and then had intercourse with Ninsar (Lady Greenery) who gave birth to Ninkurra (Lady Fruitfulness or Lady Pasture).

A second time, he had intercourse with Ninkurra, who gave birth to Uttu (= Weaver or Spider).

A third time Enki succumbs to temptation, and attempts seduction of Uttu. Upset about Enki's reputation, Uttu consults Ninhursag, who, upset at the promiscuous nature of her spouse, advises Uttu to avoid the riverbanks. In another version of this myth Ninhursag takes Enki's semen and plants it in the earth where seven plants rapidly germinate. With his two-faced servant and steward Isimud, Enki finds the plants and immediately starts consuming their fruit. Unaccountably he falls ill in his jaw, his teeth, his mouth, his throat, his limbs and his rib. The Gods are at a loss to know what to do, until Ninhursag's sacred fox fetches the Goddess.

Ninhursag relents and takes Enki's Ab (water, or semen) into her body, and gives birth to Gods of healing of each part of the body. The last one - Ninti, Sumerian = Lady Rib, is also a pun on Lady Life, a title of Ninhursag herself. The story symbolically reflects the way in which life is brought forth through the addition of water to the land, and once it grows, water is required to bring plants to fruit. It also counsels balance and responsibility, nothing to excess.

Ninti, is given the title of the mother of all living, and was a title given to the later Hurrian Goddess Kheba. This is also the title given to Eve (= Hebrew Chavvah), the Aramaic Hawwah, who was supposedly made from the Rib of Adam, in a strange reflection of the Sumerian myth.




Enki, Champion of Humankind

According to Sumerian mythology, Enki also assisted humanity to survive the Deluge designed to kill them. In the Legend of Atrahasis Enlil, the jealous king of the Gods sets out to eliminate humanity, whose noise is offensive to his ears. He successively sends drought, famine and plague to eliminate humanity, but Enki thwarts his half-brother's plans by teaching Atrahasis irrigation, granaries and medicine. Humans again proliferate a fourth time. Enraged Enlil, convenes a Council of Deities and gets them to promise not to tell humankind that he plans their total annihilation. Enki, doesn't tell Atrahasis, but tells of Enlil's plan to the walls of Atrahasis' reed hut, thus covertly rescuing the man Atrahasis, or Ziusudra by either instructing him to build some kind of a boat for his family, or by bringing him into the heavens in a magic boat. After the seven day Deluge, the flood hero, Utnapishtim, Atrahasis or Ziusudra frees a swallow, a raven and a dove in an effort to find if the flood waters have receded. On the boat landing, a sacrifice is organized to the Gods. Enlil is angry his will has been thwarted yet again, and Enki is named as the culprit. As God of what we would call ecology, Enki explains that Enlil is unfair to punish the guiltless Atrahasis for the sins of his fellows, and secures a promise that the Gods will not eliminate humankind if they practice birth control and live within the means of the natural world. The threat is made, however, that if humans do not honour their side of the covenant the Gods will be free to wreak havoc once again. This is apparently the oldest surviving source of the Noah's Ark biblical tale and other parallel Middle Eastern Deluge myths.


Enki was considered a god of life and replenishment, and was often depicted with two streams of water emanating from his shoulders, one the Tigris, the other the Euphrates. Alongside him were trees symbolising the male and female aspects of nature, each holding the male and female aspects of the 'Life Essence', which he, as apparent alchemist of the gods, would masterfully mix to create several beings that would live upon the face of the earth.

In character Enki is not a joker or trickster God, he is never a cheat, although fooled he is not a fool. Enki uses his magic for the good of others when called upon to help either a God, a Goddess or a Human. Enki is always true to his own essence as a masculine nurturer. He is fundamentally a trouble-shooter God, and avoids or disarms those who bring conflict and death to the world. He is the mediator whose compassion and sense of humour breaks and disarms the wrath of his stern half-brother, Enlil, king of the Gods. He is the Challenger who tests the limits of Inanna in the myth Enki and Inanna and the Me and then concedes graciously his defeat by the young goddess of Love and War, by strengthening the bonds between Eridu and her city of Uruk. So he becomes the Empowerer of Inanna.

He is the lord of the Apsu (Akkadian, Abzu in Sumerian, hence Greek and English Abyss) , the fresh-water ocean of groundwater under the earth.

Enki has been said to be:

"The most complete and modern mirror of masculine wholeness in Mesopotamia and world religion. His values and attributes are timeless, and it is not surprising to see that He is one of the most beloved gods of Mesopotamia. How can He be so whole? Because in Him the passionate and joyous Lover, the Mystic, the Strategist, the Sorcerer, the Divine Manager, the Keeper of World Order and Rescuer of Humankind and Gods alike are all One.

Enki is ... the gallant, impetuous, energetic Lord of Wisdom, the Seeker after truth, and Master Adept in sorcery, enchantment and seduction."



Some of this article was originally from the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica.

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We did our homework and will gladly battle the ignorant.We are Warriors.

Man has been DECIEVED and CHEATED by the purveyors of mysticism and deceit.
TODAY, ignorant man lives in the realm of choices and CONFUSION, but instead of CHOOSING to SEEK the POWER OF THE FORCE for himself, he has insteadtraveled the hot, dusty road that ends in failure, deceit and SUBMISSION to MYSTICISM.

HE HAS LET THE PROFANE MYSTICS TALK HIM OUT OF HIS INHERITANCE.

Because of this, ignorant man has been MISTAKENLY BATTLING AGAINST SOMETHING WITHIN HIMSELF WHICH HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND, and the harder he fights, the more his situation deteriorates.
The reason and answer for this dilemma is that ignorant man, at least in this in this physical world is INCOMPLETE, as the guidance and benefits of the FORCE is PORPOSELY
WITHHELD FROM HIM until the realization of his adverse condition becomes eminent and the Gnosis is asked for and SERIOUSLY DESIRED by the PERSON who THEN SEPARATES FROM
THE HERD IN THE EYES OF THE MIGHTY.

YES, when a PERSON realizes that they have been LIED TO AND DECIEVED
and has the FORTITUDE TO STAND UP,
SHAKE HIS FIST AT THE SKY and DEMAND THEIR INHERITANCE RETURNED, they then get it and become one of stature among their peers.

We all know how xianity and its cohorts promote lies and strive to keep people ignorant and deprived of true spirituality. Victims of these religions are cut off from the spirit world and any gifts they might have.

How many can astral project their soul from their body to actually experience the astral?

The astral is a place they will surely go when they die.

Many Satanists have this ability and are knowledgeable and familiar with the astral.
This is a gift from Satan and a definite help when one leaves one's body permanently. Satan is the bringer of knowledge.

Truth is looking at life with your own eyes. We learn the truth for ourselves, while outsiders remain ignorant and cut off from any spiritual guidance.


Regardless of the raw power an individual may have, when one is on their own, he/she will only go so far and that's it. Talent is useless if one does not know how to apply it, use it, and know how to work to advance it.

Satan gives us all of that. He shows us the way to becoming. Each one of us has unique abilities. Father Satan works with us individually to bring these out in us and to show us how to use these abilities to transform our lives for the better.

There are many involved in Occult studies and disciplines. Only when one makes a sincere commitment to Satan will knowledge and its applications be given to them.

HAIL SATAN!!

Sabrina & Freyja

1/27/2007 05:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE GATE SHALL STAY OPEN

We Love Robert and resonate with his thoughts and ideas.


RobertAnton Wilson earned his doctorate in psychology from Hawthorn University.



RMN: What was it that first sparked your interest in consciousness enhancement?

ROBERT: Korzybski's Science and Sanity. I was in engineering school and I picked up the book in the Brooklyn Public Library. He talked about different levels of organization in the brain-animal circuits, human circuits and so on. And he talked a lot about getting back to the non-verbal level and being able to perceive without talking to yourself while you're perceiving.

It was 1957. I was very interested in jazz at that time, and I told a black friend about some of Korzybski's exercises to get to the non-verbal level, and he said, "Oh, I do that every time I smoke pot." I got interested. I said, "Could I buy one of these marijuana cigarettes from you?" He said, "Oh hell, I'11 give it to you free." And so I smoked it.

I found myself looking at a quarter I found in my pocket and realizing I hadn't looked at a quarter in twenty years or so, the way a child looks at a quarter. So I decided marijuana was doing pretty much the same thing Korzybski was trying to do with his training devices. Then shortly after that I heard a lecture by Alan Watts, and I realized that Zen, marijuana and Korzybski were all relating the same transformations of consciousness. That was the beginning.

DJB: Many of your books deal with a secret society called the Illuminati. How did your fascination with this organization begin?

ROBERT: It was Greg Hill and Kerry Thornley who founded the Discordian Society, which is based on the worship of Eris, the Goddess of Chaos, discord, confusion, bureaucracy and international relations. They have no dogmas, but one catma. The catma is that everything in the universe relates to the number 5, one way or another, given enough ingenuity on the part of the interpreter. I found the Discordian Society to be the most satisfactory religion I had ever encountered up until that point, so I became a Discordian Pope. This is done by excommunicating all the Discordian Popes you can find and setting up your own Discordian Church. This is based on Greg's teaching that we Discordians must stick apart.

Anyway, in 1968 Jim Garrison, the D.A. of New Orleans--the jolly green Frankenstein monster, as Kerry later called him--accused Kerry at a press conference of being one of the conspirators in the Kennedy assassination. Garrison never indicted him--he didn't have enough evidence for an indictment-so Kerry never stood trial, but he brooded over it for years. Then he entered an altered state of consciousness. I'm trying to be objective about this. Kerry, who served in the same platoon as Oswald, became convinced that he was involved in the assassination and that when he was in the Marine Corps, Naval Intelligence had brainwashed him.

Kerry decided Naval Intelligence had also brainwashed Oswald and several others, and had been manipulating them for years, like the Manchurian Candidate. He couldn't remember what had happened, but he had a lot of suspicions. Then he became convinced that I was a CIA baby-sitter and we sort of lost touch with each other. It's hard to communicate with somebody when he thinks you're a diabolical mind-control agent and you're convinced that he's a little bit paranoid.

Somewhere along the line, Kerry decided to confuse Garrison by sending out all sorts of announcements that he was an agent of the Bavarian Illuminati. That got me interested in the Illuminati, and the more I read about it, the more interested I got. So eventually we incorporated the Illuminati into the Discordian Society. Since the Discordian Society is devoted to promoting chaos, we decided that the Illuminati is devoted to imposing totalitarianism. After all, a Discordian Society, to be truly discordant, should have it's own totalitarian branch that's working against the rest of the Society.

Pope John XXIV threw out six hundred saints on the grounds that they never existed. They threw out Santa Claus and a whole bunch of these Irish saints. The Discordian Society accepted them on the grounds that we don't care whether these saints are real or not. If we like them, we'll accept them. And since these saints were without a home, being thrown out of the Catholic church, we accepted them. In the same way we accepted the Illuminati, too, since nobody else wants them.

Then, I appointed myself the head of the Illuminati, which led to a lot of interesting correspondences with other heads of the Illuminati in various parts of the world. One of them threatened to sue me. I told him to resubmit his letter in FORTRAN, because my computer wouldn't accept it in English and I never heard from him again. I think that confused him.

RMN: Who do you think the Illuminati really were--or are?

ROBERT: The Illuminati has been the label used by many groups throughout history. The Illuminati that is believed in by right-wing paranoids is a hypothesis that leading intellectuals of the eighteenth century were all members of the Bavarian Illuminati which was working to overthrow Christianity. I don't think that's quite accurate; I think there's a lot of exaggeration in that view. I don't think that Jefferson was a member of the Illuminati; he just had similar goals. Beethoven was probably a member, but Mozart probably wasn't. Voltaire probably wasn't, although he was a Freemason. Anyway, to the extent that the Illuminati conspired to overthrow Christianity and to establish democracy, I'm in favor of it.

DJB: What were the Illuminati out to achieve?

ROBERT: The historical Illuminati of the eighteenth century, as distinguished from all other Illuminati of previous centuries, had as it's main goals, overthrowing the Vatican, overthrowing monarchies, establishing democratic republics and giving a scientific education to every boy and girl. Most of these goals have more or less begun to be achieved. Compared to what things were like in the eighteenth century they've largely succeeded, and I think that's all to the good.

RMN: Many formerly held secrets known only to a select group of initiates, perhaps like the Bavarian Illuminati, are now available at the local metaphysical bookstore. What do you think are the sociological implications of such information exchange?

ROBERT: Oh, I think it's wonderful. I believe very much that secrecy is the main cause of most social evils. I think information is the most precious commodity in the world. As a matter of fact, I think that information is the source of all wealth. The classical economic theory is that wealth is created by land, labor and capital. But if you have a piece of land, and you've got capital, and you hire labor, and you drill for oil, and there's no oil there--you won't get rich. What makes somebody rich is drilling for oil where there is oil, and that's based on having correct information. I'm just paraphrasing Buckminster Fuller here. All wealth is information. So therefore, all attempts to impede the transfer, the rapid transmission of information, are making us all poorer.

DJB: Why do you think it is then, that it took so long for occult knowledge to come out of secrecy and into the open?

ROBERT: Well, that's largely because of the Catholic church. Anybody who spoke too frankly for many centuries was burned at the stake. So the alchemists, hermeticists, Illuminati and other groups learned to speak in codes.

DJB: So you think it was the fear of persecution, rather than a feeling that most people weren't "ready" for the information quite yet?

ROBERT: Well, I think that's a rationalization, You can't find out who's ready, except by distributing the information. Then you find out who's ready.

RMN: The wars in the Middle East and the rising fundamentalism in the West have been seen by some as the death screams of organized religion. Both Islam and Christianity, however, have survived many "Holy Wars." What do you think the fate of organized religion will be?

ROBERT: I would like to think that organized religion is on it's way out, but I've been doing a lot of research on the eighteenth century for my historical novels. Voltaire thought that the Catholic church would be gone in twenty years, and it's hung around for two hundred years since then. When the Pope disbanded the Jesuits, Voltaire said that's the end, the Catholic church is falling apart. Well, a few years later they reorganized the Jesuits. The Knights of Malta are running the CIA apparently, and the Catholic church just refuses to die. Fundamentalism has staged a comeback. It's fantastic.

I'm a big fan of H.L. Menken. He was a very funny social critic of the 1920's. His books went out of print for a while, because the things he was making fun of didn't exist anymore. Now his books are coming back into print because all those things exist again. He was making fun of the same type of thing that Jerry Falwell, Jim Bakker, and that whole crowd stand for. It's astonishing the way that this seemingly dead historical institution came back, like the Frankenstein monster. Every time you think it's dead, it rises up again to afflict us. The Ayatollah. The Grey Wolves. The Grey Wolves are the biggest heroin dealers in the Mid-East because they believe Allah wants them to kill Jews and they can't get enough money to buy guns without selling heroin. That makes about as much sense as most of the Christian theology I've heard.

I'm a mystical agnostic, or an agnostic mystic. That phrase was coined by Olaf Stapledon, my favorite science fiction writer. When I first read it, it didn't mean anything to me, but over the years I've gradually realized that "agnostic mystic" describes me better than any words I have found any where else.

DJB: How about "transcendental agnostic"?

ROBERT: Yeah. The word agnostic has gained the association of somebody who's just denying, but what I mean is something more like the ancient Greek concept of the zetetic. I find the universe so staggering that I just don't have any faith in my ability to grasp it. I don't think the human stomach can eat everything, and I'm not quite sure my mind can understand everything, so I don't pretend that it can.

RMN: In Riane Eisler's The Chalice and the Blade, she proposes that there has been a cultural transformation from a cooperation between the sexes to the dominion of male over female. She says that we're now at a stage when men should be learning from women. What do you think about this?

ROBERT: Curiously, 1 was an early advocate of the theory of the primordial matriarchy. I got turned onto that by Robert Graves when I was in high school. I read The White Goddess, and then I happened to read a little-known book by a Scottish psychiatrist named Ian Suttie called The Origin of Love and Hate, in which he used the model of history evolving from matriarchy to patriarchy and back to matriarchy. Some of these ideas have been around my head for about forty years.

Currently I tend to agree with Eisler. There's no evidence of a matriarchy at all. There's evidence of a partnership society. It's been coming back for the last two hundred years. Arlen calls it "stone-age feedback." As European civilization conquered and exploited the Third World, ideas from these places came drifting back to Europe. Diderot, Voltaire, Rousseau, the whole enlightenment was influenced by the ideas of these "primitives" having a more natural and happier way of life than we do. Democracy, socialism, anarchism, and all the radical ideas of the last two hundred years were inspired by studying stone-age cultures from the first proto-anthropologica1 reports.

I've been an advocate for a partnership society for years, before Eisler used that term. The term I used was "voluntary association" which comes out of the American Anarchist tradition. This was a school of philosophical anarchists in New England in the nineteenth century who are very little known. I got fascinated by them in the sixties and read most of their books. The idea of voluntary association migrated to Europe and became syndicalism, only the syndicalists added to it the idea of overthrowing the existing system by violence, so the whole idea developed a bad reputation. I think the basic idea of voluntary association, or partnership, is the one towards which we should aspire. It's the most human, just, fair, decent and intelligent form of society.

RMN: Do you have hope that we can achieve it?

ROBERT: Yes, I do, in spite of the evidence we see on all sides of stupidity, ignorance, bigotry and the seemingly inexhaustible lust of the masses to be trampled on by Fuhrer figures and father figures. I see the last two hundred years as a staggering, groping, fumbling toward a partnership society.

RMN: Riane Eisler doesn't address the masculinity of the Devil-the fact that in this society, the dark side as well as the light side of spiritual power is depicted as male. Do you have any ideas about that?

ROBERT: They do have some shadowy feminine counterparts. There's the Lilith, the female Devil, and buried in Judaism there's the Shekinah, the female aspect of God. I'm more interested in the way that the Devil infiltrated Christianity disguised as Santa Claus. Very few people realize the archetypes are the same. It's the old pagan fertility god. Satan is the caricature that the Christian church created, but the fertility god came back as Santa, and he wears the same red suit as the Devil. The name Satan and Santa are made up of the same letters; you just move one and you've changed Santa into Satan.

RMN: That's interesting. The Devil and sexuality are correlated in many people's minds. Religious and political authorities have consistently attempted to control human sexuality and nip individual freedom in the bud. How do you see the role of sexuality evolving into the future?

ROBERT: I was just reading Jean Shinoda Bolen's book Gods in Everyman yesterday, and I found some of myself in Hades, though that's the younger me back in my adolescence and early twenties. I also see parts of myself in Hermes, but I see a great deal of Dionysus. My mystical feelings and my sexual feelings are so close together that I find it hard to understand how Western society ever separated them. But that just goes to show that I'm a Dionysian type. Our society is run by Zeus types and Apollo types to whom the separation is perfectly natural.

RMN: Do you think society is evolving towards a more Dionysian character?

ROBERT: Yeah. We have been since the sixties. Woodstock was a Dionysian festival--it was the rebirth of Dionysus--and right away the lid came down. My God Dionysus is loose! King Pentheus immediately called out the cops. The Dionysian religion had entered his kingdom and he tried to crush it, but he was torn apart by his own mother. That's a warning of what happens when you try to suppress Dionysus; it's one of the classic Greek myths. Look what happened to Nixon--he got torn apart. The only president to be forced to resign. Reagan escaped unscathed but I still have an intuition that he's going to be repudiated. I think the people are going to be as disgusted with Reagan as they were with Nixon--eventually. I even had high hopes that George Bush was going to be impeached. Of course, he picked Quayle as impeachment insurance, but I just have a strong suspicion, based on Confucius, that the general decline of morals and manners in this country, the general increase in the sleaze factor in American life and the general corruption and crookedness, are all due to the fact that people like Nixon and Agnew get away scot-free. They had television pictures of DeLorean peddling cocaine. When I heard about this I said, "A man with that much money isn't going to be convicted, even if they have him on television." And he wasn't.

Once everybody becomes aware that the rich can commit any crime in the book and get away with it, then the general attitude is, "Well, why don't we do the same?" The whole sociobiology of Confucius is when the ruling class are decent, honorable, gentlemen scholars, the people will be well disposed; when the government is a bunch of thieving rascals, the people will become thieving rascals.

We've seen so much of that, and the only hope I can see is that some of the malefactors in high places get punished so that a sense of justice and order is reestablished in this country. I'm not a vengeful person and I have a great deal of compassion, even for Nixon and Reagan, but I think some of those people have to go to jail to restore the idea that there is justice in the universe.

RMN: The whirlwind ecstasies of the sixties have, for many, settled down into a gentle breeze. What do you feel were the fleeting and lasting effects of this cultural phenomena, and how have your attitudes developed since that time?

ROBERT: Well, we were just talking about that this morning. What survives of the sixties? What survives in different forms? I think Bucky Fuller hit the nail on the head. He said that around 1972, the brighter people realized that there are more effective ways of challenging the system than going out in the streets and running their heads against policemen's clubs. So they got more subtle. People are working on different levels and in different ways, and it's become less confrontational, but I do believe there are still a lot of people working for the ideals of the sixties.

DJB: You mean like in the movie industry?

ROBERT: Yeah, and in television, in computers, in banking, all over the place.

DJB: Really, in banking?

ROBERT: Yeah. I've met a couple of bankers who are really very hip people.

DJB: Timothy Leary and Aleister Crowley both played similar roles in history and both had a significant influence on your evolving belief systems. Tell us about the effect these two people have had on your understanding of consciousness.

ROBERT: Well Crowley was such a complicated individual that everybody who reads Crowley has a different Crowley in his head. There's a million Aleister Crowleys depending on what part of him people are able to understand and integrate. Crowley, as the leader of the Illuminati and the Argentum Astrum the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO), was continuing the project of overthrowing Christianity and added his own twist of reviving Paganism (which goes back to Giordano Bruno who wanted to do the same thing). Crowley is an interesting figure and has had a bigger historical impact than most people realize. The NeoPagan movement is bigger than anybody knows, except the Fundamentalists, who think it's a Satanic movement -- which from their point of view, I guess it is.

The Crowley who interests me is the scientific Crowley. He traveled all over the world, got initiated into every secret society he could, studied every occult system, studied Sufism in North Africa, Taoism in China, Buddhism in Ceylon and he tried to understand them all in terms of organic chemistry and physiology. He laid the groundwork for the scientific study of mysticism and altered consciousness. That's the Crowley I'm fascinated by--Crowley the scientist, who co-existed with Crowley the mystic, Crowley the poet, Crowley the adventurer and Crowley the Great Beast.

RMN: The Golden Dawn from which Crowley got much of his inspiration was a mystical school which is still lively today. Have you found this system able to remain flexible enough to adapt to the cultural and psychological revisions that have occurred since the Order was first established?

ROBERT: There are several Golden Dawns around, like there are several OTO's and several Illuminatis and so on. All of these things are fractionated, and of course, everybody with a power drive involved in these things claims to be the leader of the real and authentic Secret Chiefs. The Golden Dawn which I find most interesting is the one of which Christopher Hyatt is the Outer Head. He's a fully qualified clinical psychologist with a good background in Jungian and Reichian therapy and a great deal of theoretical knowledge of general psychology.

He was trained in the Golden Dawn system by Israel Regardie who was also a psychologist as well as a mystic. I think Hyatt knows what he's doing; I think he's got his head on right. He doesn't have delusions of grandeur. He's not a prima donna and he's free of most of the deviant and aberrant behavior that's chronic in the occult world. What are the goals of the Golden Dawn? Unleashing the full positive potential of human beings.

RMN: What are the methods involved?

ROBERT: The original Golden Dawn in the 1880's used Kabbalistic magic. Crowley revised it to include Kabbalistic magic and yoga and a bit of Sufism. Regardie revised it to include a great deal of Reichian bodywork, and an insistence that anybody who enters the Order should go through psychotherapy first. He became aware that people who get into Kabbalistic-type work, especially in the Golden Dawn tradition, who haven't had psychotherapy, are likely to flip out or scare themselves silly. Regardie also insisted that they should know General Semantics, which is interesting since it was General Semantics which got me interested in the study of alternative consciousness.

RMN: Why did Regardie want this to be included?

ROBERT: General Semantics is a system that is very useful in clarifying your thinking. If you understand the rules of General Semantics, you're more or less immune to most of the errors that are chronic at this stage of civilization. One of the rules of General Semantics is avoid the is of identity, which is a rule I just broke when I said "General Semantics is..." It's very hard to avoid the is of identity in speech. We all use it all the time. I'm getting pretty good at avoiding it in my writing. Whenever you're trying to figure out what the hell is wrong with my thinking? Why can't I get to the bottom of this? Why am I confused about this problem? Write it down and take out every "is" and reformulate it in some other way. You'll find that your thinking has been tremendously clarified.

It's like the celebrated problem in quantum physics in the 1920's. The electron is a wave. The electron is a particle. Those two things contradict each other totally, which led to a lot of physicists saying that the universe doesn't make sense, the universe is irrational and so on. If you reformulate it without the "is" of identity, there's no paradox at all. The electron appears as a wave when we measure it in certain ways. The electron appears as a particle when we measure it in other ways. There's no contradiction. There are a lot of other ideas in general semantics that are equally useful in clarifying thought.

DJB: That's one of the claims of the recent technology of brain machines. What experiences have you had with them, which ones do you find the most promising and what kind of potential do you think they hold for the future?

ROBERT: The most outstanding experience I've had with a brain machine was with the first one, the Pulstar. I had an out-of-body experience which registered as flat brain waves on the EEG, and that fascinated me. That was the first objective sign I had ever seen that something was going on in out-of-body experiences besides heightened imagination. I don't see much difference between a lot of the brain machines around. Some are demonstrably inferior, and out of charity I won't mention their names. Some claim to be very superior to all the others, but as far as I can see, most of them function pretty much the same.

At present, I'm more interested in the light and sound machines than I am in the electro-magnetic machines, because there is some legitimate cause for concern that sending electro-magnetism into your brain too often may not be good for you. The whole field is growing very fast. There's a bunch of tapes put out by Acoustic Brain Research in North Carolina. They use only sound, but they combine it with subliminals and Ericksonian hypnosis in a way that I find very effective. They're using sound at the same frequencies that you find in the electro-magnetic machines, or the light and sound machines.

The Graham Potentializer does seem a little more powerful than any of the other machines, but I wouldn't guarantee it because I haven't had enough experience with it yet. What T want to see is more controlled, double-blind studies of these machines, because everybody has their own anecdotal impressions, but we don't really know yet which are the best. Which wave forms are the best? We don't know that yet. Why do some people respond better to one than to others? We don't know why. There's a lot mure to be learned and I'm very eager to see more research.

RMN: Do you think that the use of brain machines requires an accompanying discipline?

ROBERT: I suspect so. One manufacturer told me that the return rate is about fifteen percent. I think these machines are much easier than the biofeedback machines, but they still require some discipline. I think they require some previous experience with Yoga, or Zen, or some consciousness-altering work. You need some kind of previous experience or you just won't know how to use the machine. I don't think the machine really works as an entrainer unless you practice between sessions, trying to revive the state without the machine. A lot of people can't do that, they just assume that the machine will do all the work for them, which is kind of like thinking that you just get in the car and it'll take you where you want to go.

DJB: The potential of nanotechnology seems far more vast. How do you think it's development will affect human consciousness in the future?

ROBERT: I haven't thought much about that. That's an interesting question. It's going to change everything. Nanotechnology is a much bigger jump than anything else on the horizon. It's bigger than space colonization, bigger than longevity. It's a million times bigger than the industrial revolution. It's going to change things so much that I can't begin to conceive how much; but everything's going to get dirt cheap. The ozone layer will get repaired rapidly. We could create redwoods as fast and as many as we want, and then there's star-flight. I don't know; it's just a whole new ballgame, and it leads directly into immortalism.

DJB: How about new ways to alter the brain?

ROBERT: Oh, of course. Eric Drexler, in his book on the subject, talks about constructing micro-replicators that, if you let them loose in the body, they run all over the place, inspecting every cell. If it's not functioning properly they go back, get information from the main computer and repair it. You can obviously do the same thing with brain circuits. It'll probably replace psychiatry. Nanotechnology is so staggering, we can't think about it without hyperbole, and it's coming along rapidly. The Japanese are spending fantastic amounts on that kind of research.

RMN: What do you think about the idea than many inventions are actually rediscoveries of technologies that have already existed in the past?

ROBERT: That's always seemed very implausible to me. There are some cases--the steam engine was discovered in Greece and forgotten until Watt rediscovered it--but I doubt that there are many. Most things weren't discovered until they could be discovered, until there was the time-binding heritage, or until the information accumulation had reached the necessary level. This is why you have so many cases of parallel discovery in science, where in five years three people patent the same thing in different countries. As Charles Fort said, "It's steam engines when it comes steam engine time."

RMN: What if there were times when the information had accumulated but not the political or social climate necessary to appreciate it? Libraries have been burned and knowledge chased underground by authoritarian forces.

ROBERT: Well, "Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one should remain silent."

RMN: A lot of people feel that technology is at odds with their ecological thinking. What do you think is the evolving role of the science of Ecology.

ROBERT: The first book I ever read on ecology was way back in the forties. It was called The Road to Survival. I've always been fascinated by ecology because I'm fascinated by whole systems. That's why Bucky Fuller fascinates me. He always starts with the biggest whole system and works his way down. I've written a lot of satirical things about pop ecology because I think a lot of people have got on the ecology bandwagon who don't know their ass from their elbow about science, and it's turned into a kind of late Christian heresy like Marxism. It's become a new blame game, where people go around laying guilt trips on other people. Guilt is very fashionable in Western civilization.

Albert Ellis said the most popular game in Western civilization is finding and denouncing no-good shits. I found that so impressive I've incorporated it into a couple of my own books. Every generation picks out a group of no-good shits. In the Victorian age it was adolescent boys who masturbated, and now it's cigarette smokers. There's always got to be some no-good shits for people to denounce and persecute, and to the extent that ecology has degenerated into that, it arouses my satirical instinct. But of course the science of Ecology itself is tremendously important, and the more people who know about it, the better.

RMN: The methods of science and art are beginning to achieve some wonderful things together. What do you think created such a chasm between the two disciplines in the first place, and why do you think they are now merging?

ROBERT: Science and art. Now what created such a chasm between them? Why the hell did that happen? I think I'm going to go back and blame the Inquisition. Science had to fight an uphill battle against the Inquisition and this created a historical hangover in which scientists had acute hostility to every form of mysticism, not just to the Catholic church which had been persecuting them. I think that rubs off onto art, because there's something mystical about art no matter how much you try to rationalize it. If you get a bunch of artists together talking about where they got their creativity from, they sound like a bunch of mystics.

Then there was the rise of capitalism. I'm inclined to agree with Karl Marx about that, that every previous form of society has had different values, a hierarchy of values. Capitalism does tend to reduce everything to just one value--what can you sell it for? And as Oscar Wilde said, "All art is quite useless." The value of art depends on who's manipulating the marketplace at the time. It's spooky. Art is the Schrodinger's cat of economics.

All of a sudden, an Andy Warhol is worth a million, and nobody knows how that happened. Then it's somebody else the next year. Picasso never paid for anything in the last twenty years of his life. He just wrote checks which never came back to his bank. People saved them because they knew that the signature was worth more than the sum of the check. They knew it would be worth even more in twenty years, and so on.

Somebody asked a Zen master, "What's the most valuable thing in the world?" and he said, "The head of a dead cat." The querent asked "Why?" and the Zen master said, "Tell me it's exact value." That's a good exercise if you're into creative writing. Write a short story where the hero's life is saved by the fact that he could find the value of the head of a dead cat. It could happen. Everything has a fluctuating value.

In capitalism, everything gets reduced to it's immediate cash value. Citizen Kane, to take one egregious example, is generally considered one of the best films ever made. It lost money in it's first year, so Orson Welles had extreme difficulty for the rest of his life getting enough money to make other movies. Yet Citizen Kane made more money than any other movie made in 1941, if you count up to the present, because it gets revived more than any other movie. But the bankers who own the studios aren't interested in profit in twenty years, they want profit next June. They want Indiana Jones not Citizen Kane.

RMN: So, if the areas of science and art are merging it indicates a move away from the capitalist perspective.

ROBERT: Yes. I think information theory has probably done a great deal to bring science and art back together again. Norbert Weiner invented the basic equation for information at the same time Claude Shannon did. That's another example of things happening when they're ready to happen. Weiner explained information by saying that a great poem carries more information than a political speech. Information is the unpredictable. As we come to realize the value of the unpredictable, the value of art has become clearer.

You go through a museum and you look at a Leonardo, a Botticelli, a Rembrandt, a Van Gogh, a Cezanne, a Picasso, a Klee, a Jackson Pollock, and it's obvious the value of each of them is that they weren't copying one another. If Van Gogh were copying Rembrandt nobody would give a damn for Van Gogh. He had the chutzpah to paint his own vision. Somebody having their own vision instead of just repeating an earlier one in a different style--that's information. Information is the new and unpredictable, and information theory led to the computers which fascinate artists. Computers have opened up whole new areas of art.

DJB: Information is the unpredictability of a signal, but it's not quite chaos or randomness. It carries a message.

ROBERT: Yeah. When unpredictability gets too high, information turns into noise. That part of Shannon's theory involves very complicated mathematics and I'm not sure I fully understand it; I just more or less intuitively follow it. There has to be an information redundancy ratio where the highest grade of information is diluted with repetition.

DJB: Because it's so unpredictable one can't relate it to anything.

ROBERT: Yeah. Originality frequently looks like chaos until we learn how to deal with it, until we find the redundancy in it.

DJB: Have you had any experiences with lucid or conscious dreaming?

ROBERT: I've had a lot of lucid dreams, but I can't think of anything that's particularly worth discussing. I'd like to learn more about it. It happens spontaneously sometimes. I have a very rich hypnagogic and hypnopompic life, like Philip K. Dick. William Burroughs told me that his characters all manifest as voices in hypnopompic reverie before they have bodies, or names, or anything else. Robert Shea, an old friend of mine who's a scientific materialist of the most rigid sort, really blew my mind by admitting he hears his characters talking. I suspect all writers do. I think the difference between a writer and a channeler is that the channeler has found a way to make more money out of it than most writers ever do.

DJB: Synchronicity is a major theme that runs through most, if not all, of your books. What model do you use at present for interpreting this mysterious phenomenon?

ROBERT: I never have one model. I always have at least seven models for anything.

DJB: Which one is your favorite?

ROBERT: Bell's Theorem combined with an idea I got from Barbara Honegger, a parapsychologist who worked for Reagan. She wrote a book denouncing Reagan, Ollie North and the whole crowd, giving inside dirt about what she discovered while she was at the White House. Long before Barbara became a controversial political figure, she gave me the idea that the right brain is constantly trying to communicate with the left. If you don't listen to what it's trying to say, it gives you more and more vivid dreams and if you still won't listen, it leads to Freudian slips. If you still don't pay attention, the right brain will get you to the place in space-time where synchronicity will occur. Then the left brain has to pay attention. "Whaaaat!?"

DJB: What do you think happens to consciousness after physical death?

ROBERT: Somebody asked a Zen master, "What happens after death?" He replied, "I don't know." And the querent said, "But you're a Zen master!" He said, "Yes, but I'm not a dead Zen master." Somebody asked Master Eckart, the great German mystic, "Where do you think you'il go after death?" He said, "I don't plan to go anywhere." Those are the best answers I've heard so far. My hunch is that consciousness is a non-local function of the universe as a whole, and our brains are only local transceivers. As a matter of fact, it's a very strong hunch, but I'm not going to dogmatize about it.

DJB: Could you share with us any experiences you might have had communicating with what you thought to be extraterrestrial or non-human entities?

ROBERT: I've had a lot of experiences with what could be interpreted as extraterrestrial communications. They could also be interpreted as ESP, or as accessing parts of my brain that are normally not available, or as contacting a non-local consciousness that permeates everything. There are a lot of different models for this type of experience. I got fascinated by the extraterrestrial model at one stage in the early seventies, and still, every now and then, it makes more sense to me than any of the others.

Other times the non-local model makes more sense, which is a development of Bell's Theorem. This was stated most clearly by Edwin Harris Walker in a paper called The Complete Quantum Anthropologist. He developed a mathematical theory of a non-local mind, to which we can gain access at times. It's a complete quantum mechanical, mathematical model to explain everything that happens in mystical and occult experience. That makes a great deal of sense to me, especially when I found that Joyce was using the same model in Finnigan 's Wake. I think it also underlies the I Ching. I explain this at length in my book Coincidance.

DJB: How do you see consciousness evolving into the twenty-first century?

ROBERT: It staggers my imagination. I get about as far as 2012 in my future projections, then I can't imagine beyond that. So much is going to change by then.

DJB: What do you see coming along up to 2012?

ROBERT: In Leary's terms, I think about one-third of the West now understands the neuro-somatic circuit, and some techniques for activating it. I think that's going to reach fifty to fifty-one percent pretty soon--and that will be a major cultural change. I think more and more understanding of the neuro-genetic and meta-programming circuits are coming along.

It's very obvious that quantum physics, parapsychology and all the work they're doing attaching brain scanners to Yogis and Zen masters means we're going to learn a great deal about the non-local quantum circuit. I think the history of mysticism has been sort of like a bunch of firecrackers with two or three going off every century. With the LSD revolution it became two or three every month and now it's moving up to two or three every week. I see a real acceleration in consciousness, just like in technology.

DJB: Soon it'll be fireworks every day. One final question, Bob. Tell us about any current projects on which you're presently working.

ROBERT: I've just finished a book called Quantum Psychology subtitled: How Brain Software Programs Your Self and Your World. I'm working on a movie, tentatively titled The Curtain, which may or may not ever get produced. I've been paid enough so that I'm not wasting my time, which is a good thing to know in Hollywood. There are all sorts of people around Hollywood who'll get you involved in projects without ever paying you a penny, if you're dumb enough to do that.

If the movie does get produced it'll have a tremendous impact. I'm also working on two possible television shows and I'm continuing my historical novels. I'm doing more lectures in more places than ever before, with workshops here and there, which involves a lot of traveling. Altogether, I'm very excited about what the next ten years will bring into my life.



MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO AWAY TO SOME SANITIZED BOARD>>>>>>>>>>>>

WE RESONATE WITH HIM AS DO OTHERS HERE.

IF YOU CAN NOT TAKE THE HEAT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN.

Of course our names are the magic names of us.Why should we expose ourselves to you who are without?
We are in fact VERY CLEVER.


HAIL SATAN!!!
wild&free
sexymaenads

1/27/2007 05:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Old man and the sea said...

Tsoldrin, you are quite amusing. Thanks for the humor.

You are a fish swimming in the ocean who denies the existence of the very water in which it swims:

"Of course this 'seawater' is a myth. I have never even seen it. And yet you say our lives depend on it. Ridiculous. You are just making this stuff about 'water' up so you can try and control us. Look at me, I'm a fish, dammit! I am self-sufficient. What need have I of this imagined water? Prove its existence to me."

Well, if you could jump out of the mind state in which you are stuck, you might become aware of something that resembles the surface of the ocean for just a moment, before you plunge back into it and can't perceive it anymore.

But whitefish can't jump.

Apparently.

1/27/2007 05:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE KILLED LIKE CHAMPIONS
Hunter S. Thompson

LUCIFER RISING
LUCIFER RISING
HIGHER AND HIGHER

After the Battle.
Now back to the party.

verywild&veryfree
verysexymaenads
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1/27/2007 05:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One for the road, from Hunter.


The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now -- with somebody -- and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives.

It will be guerilla warfare on a global scale, with no front lines and no identifiable enemy. . . We are going to punish somebody for this attack, but just who or what will be blown to smithereens for it is hard to say. Maybe Afghanistan, maybe Pakistan or Iraq, or possibly all three at once. Who knows?

This is going to be a very expensive war, and Victory is not guaranteed -- for anyone, and certainly not for anyone as baffled as George W. Bush. All he knows is that his father started the war a long time ago, and that he, the goofy child-President, has been chosen by Fate and the global Oil industry to finish it Now.

The last half of the 20th century will seem like a wild party for rich kids, compared to what's coming now. The party's over, folks. . . [Censorship of the news] is a given in wartime, along with massive campaigns of deliberately-planted ‘Dis-information.’ That is routine behavior in Wartime -- for all countries and all combatants -- and it makes life difficult for people who value real news.

[T]his blizzard of mind-warping war propaganda out of Washington is building up steam. Monday is Anthrax, Tuesday is Bankruptcy, Friday is Child-Rape, Thursday is Bomb-scares, etc., etc., etc.... If we believed all the brutal, frat-boy threats coming out of the White House, we would be dead before Sunday. It is pure and savage terrorism reminiscent of Nazi Germany.

We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear -- fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts, or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer.

It is hard to ignore the prima facie dumbness that got us bogged down in this nasty war in the first place. This is not going to be like Daddy's War, old sport. He actually won, and he still got run out of the White House nine months later.. . The whole thing sucks. It was wrong from the start, and it is getting wronger by the hour.

Three journalists have died in Baghdad. . . American troops are killing journalists in a profoundly foreign country, under cover of a war being fought for savage, greed-crazed reasons that most of them couldn't explain or even understand.

What the hell is going on here? How could this once-proud nation have changed so much, so drastically, in only a little more than two years. In what seems like the blink of an eye, this George Bush has brought us from a prosperous nation at peace to a broke nation at war.

But wow! This goofy child president we have on our hands now. He is demonstrably a fool and a failure, and this is only the summer of '03. The American nation is in the worst condition I can remember in my lifetime, and our prospects for the immediate future are even worse. . . The Bush family must be very proud of themselves today, but I am not. Big Darkness, soon come. Take my word for it.

The utter collapse of this Profoundly criminal Bush conspiracy will come none too soon for people like me. . . The massive plundering of the U.S. Treasury and all its resources has been almost on a scale that is criminally insane, and has literally destroyed the lives of millions of American people and American families. Exactly. You and me, sport -- we are the ones who are going to suffer, and suffer massively. This is going to be just like the Book of Revelation said it was going to be -- the end of the world as we knew it.

I had a truly horrible dream last night. . . [Arnold Schwarzenegger, Mike Tyson and I] were on our way to a TV studio for a debate about his long-time working friendship with the powerful Bush family from Texas and how it might affect the next Bush presidency when The Terminator seizes power in Sacramento and tries to hand over the state's 54 electoral votes by election day in 2004. That is the basic plan behind Schwarzenegger running. He doesn't want to be Governor, he just wants the electoral votes to go to Bush this time.

Why are we seeing George Bush on TV every two hours for nine or ten days at a time, like some kind of mutated Mr. Rogers clone? Something is dangerously wrong in any country where a monumentally-Failed backwoods politician can scare our national TV networks so totally that they will give him anything he wants.

I have never had much faith in our embattled child President's decision-making powers ... I know that is not what you want to hear/read at this time, especially if you happen to be serving in the doomsday mess that is currently the U.S. Army.

I take no pleasure in being Right in my dark predictions about the fate of our military intervention in the heart of the Muslim world. It is immensely depressing to me. Nobody likes to be betting against the Home team.

If we get chased out of Iraq with our tail between our legs, that will be the fifth consecutive Third-world country with no hint of a Navy or an Air Force to have whipped us in the past 40 years.

This is no time for the ‘leader of the free world’ to be falling asleep at massively-popular sporting events. . .Was [Bush] drunk? Does he fear the sight of an uncovered nipple? Was he lying? Does he believe in his heart that there are more evangelical Christians in this country than football fans and sex-crazed yoyos with unstable minds? Is he really as dumb as he looks and acts? These are all unsatisfactory questions at a time like this.

Is it possible that he has already abandoned all hope of getting re-elected? Or does he plan to cancel the Election altogether by declaring a national military emergency with terrorists closing in from all sides, leaving him with no choice but to launch a huge bomb immediately?. . . Desperate men do desperate things, and stupid men do stupid things. We are in for a desperately stupid summer.

For myself, I would much prefer to be stuck with Kentucky in the NCAA Tournament, than stuck with George Bush in the White House. It is the difference between losing your wallet at a cock fight and losing all your credit cards forever, along with your job and your house and your ability to earn enough money to pay off your sports-gambling debts or even a six-pack on game day. . .

The 2004 presidential election will be a matter of life or death for the whole nation. We are sick today, and we will be even sicker tomorrow if this wretched half-bright swine of a president gets re-elected in November.

These horrifying digital snapshots of the American dream in action on foreign soil are worse than anything even I could have expected. I have been in this business a long time and I have seen many staggering things, but this one is over the line. Now I am really ashamed to carry an American passport.

YOU SEE
OPEN YOUR DAMN EYES

Diana

1/27/2007 05:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Old man of the sea said...

Please pardon me for being a little bit gross, but I just popped a small pimple on my ass and the puss that I washed off my finger said its name was Satan.

The scum in the sink drain said its name was Enki.

And the gurgle down the drain as it all disappeared into nothingness said its name was sexymaneads.

Who'd have guessed they were so small?

Now back to something meaningful:

Tsoldrin, you are quite amusing. Thanks for the humor.

You are a fish swimming in the ocean who denies the existence of the very water in which it swims:

"Of course this 'seawater' is a myth. I have never even seen it. And yet you say our lives depend on it. Ridiculous. You are just making this stuff about 'water' up so you can try and control us. Look at me, I'm a fish, dammit! I am self-sufficient. What need have I of this imagined water? Prove its existence to me."

Well, if you could jump out of the mind state in which you are stuck, you might become aware of something that resembles the surface of the ocean for just a moment, before you plunge back into it and can't perceive it anymore.

But whitefish can't jump.

Apparently.

And to Cuttlefish, thanks for kind of, sort of, acknowledging the existence of God, in your own limited, materialistic, half hearted sort of way.

There are better tables in the Jr. High cafeteria, you know. Better food. Kinder faces. More interesting conversation. And no predators. Just the occasional bitch slap for acting stupid when you ought to know better.

1/27/2007 05:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHO DO YOU RESONATE WITH?
mr. whiner

Only visionaries please,NO CUPCAKES
ONLY people who are not afraid to speak their mind even if it means their Death WARRANT.

We really really really would like to know.

1/27/2007 05:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OLD AND IGNORANT MAN SET IN YOUR WAYS!!!



YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT DEATH SOON!!!

PUSH THE ENVELOPE HE IS WAITING FOR YOUR ASS!!!

............


We can also see where the antagonistic story of Zeus (Jove) and Prometheus was used to promote the concept of a rebellious God who was condemned and ostracized for bringing knowledge to humanity.

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Demons specialize in the teaching of ethics. This right here attests to the reality that Demons are not evil. Responsibility to the responsible. Honor and truth are VERY important to Satan. Satan looks with hatred upon those who are cowards and are too weak to take responsibility for their actions. Satan represents the strong and the just.

The Demons are the Nephilim, (the Original Gods) the ancient extra-terrestrials who came to Earth to mine for gold thousands of years ago. They are very intellectually, physically and spiritually advanced. Many took human wives/husbands and were cursed for this by other Gods who opposed anything that would educate or elevate human beings above that of an animal. Human beings were intended to be slaves and when the mining project was finished, they were to be destroyed. The Demons befriended humans and wished for us to become as the Gods, just as Father Satan attempted to bring humans godly knowledge and power. For this, they were cursed and punished.

The Demons are very human friendly. I have had the privilege of having them work with me and teach me. I have established true friendships with several Demons who have helped me in so many ways. I have learned so much from my Demon teachers. Given the destruction of ancient libraries and centers of learning by Xians, so much knowledge has been lost forever. Sometimes Demons can be strict in encouraging us to better ourselves, but this is for our own well being and development. Satan states in the Al Jilwah: “I lead to the straight path without a revealed book.”


As for those who have this complacent "live and let live" attitude and prefer to ignore the ever advancing xian problem that curses and blasphemes our God, works to enact laws that are forever taking away our rights and is incessantly fighting against us- these people don't even deserve to be called Satanists. One only needs to type in "spiritual warfare" and "Satan" together in any search engine to pull up thousands of militant xian websites that prove how they are relentlessly attacking us. So far, most Satanists have turned the other cheek. This needs to be corrected.

You slap , we punch back in the head!!

Demons are really upset about the disrespect Father Satan has received,
even from his own people.

They are not impressed with LaVeyan “Satanists” (most are atheists) and those who attempt to use Father Satan like some sort of servant.

Unfortunately, many people come to Satan after experiencing the negative and spiritually destructive influences of other religions.



Fundamentalist xians continually brag about "binding Satan" "binding and cursing Demons" and so forth. They all talk the talk. It is time we show them what *real* binding and cursing is.

You shall learn to leave us in peace.

HAIL SATAN

Marchosias

1/27/2007 05:58:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Old man of the sea; you know, for a bright person, you are not very kind or encouraging. What’s up with that?


This paragraph from a new essay by Paul Levy relates well to the range of contentions expressed by many posters on this site.

Triggered by Evil

As we become more deeply acquainted with the evil within us, it is discovered to be a potential catalyst for the growth and expansion of consciousness, which is to say that evil ultimately serves the good. Jung recognized that whenever evil appeared in an individual person's process, some deeper good always came out of the experience that would not have emerged without the manifestation of evil. Could the same thing be true on a collective scale? To quote Jung, "we assiduously avoid investigating whether in this very power of evil God might not have placed some special purpose which it is most important for us to know." We would not have had an expansion of consciousness if it weren't for the emergence of evil and our struggles with it. In Goethe's masterpiece "Faust," Faust asks Mephistopheles (who represents the Devil) who he is, and Mephistopheles replies that he is "part of that force which would do evil, yet forever works the good." In coming to terms with evil, evil is recognized to play a key role in the divine mystery of the Incarnation (of God) through humanity.

http://www.awakeninthedream.com

1/27/2007 06:25:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Sorry, I can't help it; my vision of proselytizers is one of fat balding men rather than women’s poitrine.

Thanks for your attempts Sabrina, but still my 'vision' remains the same.

1/27/2007 06:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Old man of the sea said...

Sounder, in reply to your question:

Lies, dissembling, and half truths should neither be encouraged nor met with kindness. Sometimes chiding or a scolding is in order.

As for your post on the struggle with evil, and how it can result in manifesting the good, bravo. I think what you put up there by Paul Levy contains great wisdom, and it ought to be encouraged heartily.

As for "Marchosias", I simply shake my head in wonder at the very self-defeating and abject stupidity of which man is capable. While your sort of misguidance is nothing sort of tragic, the pathetic rhetoric you espouse makes me laugh.

Anyone who could possibly be so numbed from reality as to accept this kind of claptrap as either meaningful or true, well I can only surmise that they have suffered horribly at some point in their lives, and I truly pity them that the nature of their suffering could allow them to respond to it by being led so horribly astray.

May God have mercy on you and anyone foolish or venal enough to listen to your words with any response other than complete rejection.

There is no god but God.

1/27/2007 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounder:
Not bad, thanks for the link.

Sabrina


ps
To the very Old Man who can not learn new tricks.
Whatever!
You can't teach pork!!
By the way
Marchosias helps us when we need guidance.
She is beautiful and very wise.
Why not attack her, she is a warrior.

1/27/2007 07:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We will pray for you too, OLD MAN.

We do not believe in SIN.

We do not need your false jesus to have mercy on us.

We renounce all the false teachings of the church and spit on your bible.

sexymaenads

1/27/2007 07:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anglelic entities seem to follow the same pattern in dealing with people. Known by different names; "Watchers" "Guardians" "Gatekeepers" their true nature is to keep humanity from progressing in any way ESPECIALLY in the area of mind power or knowledge of the 4th dimension/astral. They are like guards in a concentration camp. The "Watchtowers." To keep humanity in chains, enslaved and without power.

Those who are without and delve into the occult a little too deeply will often meet with unpleasant experiences (again, FEAR is used as a means of control). One way or another, those who are without are often deceived into relationships with angels.

Of course there are variations, but here is what to look for- you will see this if you read anything about people's experiences:

* The angelic entity intrudes. Most often the creature is uninvited and takes it upon itself to barge in on someone's psyche totally uninvited.

* The entity uses love to lower the victim's defenses. This is done deliberately and masks the entity's true intentions. The victim (human beings are emotionally vulnerable- how many serious mistakes have been made at the mercy of our emotions) feels the "love" and is deceived into believing this is a positive visitor.

* The entity never explains much or gives the victim any valuable knowledge. Most questions are not answered, if they are, they are in riddles or nonsense. Any information given is either incorrect or incomplete.

* Often, the entity will make a statement that it is coming to warn the victim and/or humanity of "erring ways." This many times has to do with anything the entity deems as a threat to their total control, in most cases playing upon the ability for one to defend one's self; humanity's use of mind power for psychic self defense is EXTREMELY threatening to these alien predators as their main tool of control is through the mind; their worst worry is should humanity ever discover the truth and attain the same powers of the mind as they possess. They preach a false concept of "peace" and "love" to disarm humanity and create a helpless/defenseless Earth. Their own convictions concerning this are made blatantly clear throughout the xtian bible where they are bringers of torture, suffering and death. The book of revelation/apocolypse says it all.

* The entity in many cases delivers negative prophesy. Most often, this predicts personal ruin, disaster for the victim, his/her loved ones or others who are close. The entity then offers false reassurance that it will remain with the victim through all of this, but does not lift a finger to stop it.

* The entity in many cases, such as with ignorant (unknowing) new age people, acts as a healer when channeled. As usual, no knowledge of any value is given and the healer as well as the patient remain cripples and are helpless without the entity's assistance, making them slaves.

I have dealt with these entities and they are anything but benevolent. They are bringers of death, misfortune and their victims of choice are children. I have seen this many times. People who get into angel magick are either extremely arrogant or their personal lives end up in disaster. One guy who was into this sort of thing was severly depressed and into drugs.


An xian woman who was expecting a baby was visited by an angel. The angel told her that the baby would be stillborn. Real nice. Of course, the baby was stillborn.

The angels of apocalypse dump fire, plagues and all other kinds of nasties on humanity.
...................


Human Sacrifice in the Bible


Deuteronomy 12:27
And thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, the flesh and the blood, upon the altar of the LORD thy God: and the blood of thy sacrifices shall be poured out upon the altar of the LORD thy God, and thou shalt eat the flesh.


The Judeo/Christian bible is chock full of blood sacrifice- HUMAN blood sacrifice. Most xians rely on what their preacher has to say and/or are too lazy or mentally challenged to read and study for themselves. How many people bother to REALLY THINK?? In addition to the blatant human blood sacrifices for jehova, bloodbath after bloodbath took place under the direction and orders of this bloodthirsty entity in the form of numerous wars and other acts of inhumanity.

Exodus 22:29 “Thou shalt not delay to offer the first of thy ripe fruits, and of thy liquors: the firstborn of thy sons shalt thou give unto me.”

Ezekiel 20:25-26 “Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good and judgments whereby they should not live; “
20:26 “And I polluted them in their own gifts in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb that I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I am the Lord.”

II Samuel 21 is another example of blood sacrifice to appease Jehova when the Israelites faced famine.
21:6 Let seven men of his sons be delivered unto us, and we will hang them up unto the Lord in Gib’e-ah of Saul, whom the Lord did choose.
21:9 And he delivered them into the hands of the Gib’e-on-ites, and they hanged them in the hill before the Lord: and they fell all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest.
21:10 And Riz’pah the daughter of A-i’ah took sackcloth, and spread it for her upon the rock, from the beginning of harvest until water dropped upon them out of heaven, and suffered neither the birds of the air to rest on them by day, nor the beasts of the field by night.

When seven men are murdered in cold blood in order to appease Jehova in hopes that he will end a famine, it can only be called human blood sacrifice.

More Blood Sacrifice:

Numbers 31:25 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
31:26 Take the sum of the prey that was taken, both of man and of beast, thou, and Eleazar the priest, and the chief fathers of the congregation:
31:27 And divide the prey into two parts; between them that took the war upon them, who went out to battle, and between all the congregation:
31:28 And levy a tribute unto the LORD of the men of war which went out to battle: one soul of five hundred, both of the persons, and of the beeves, and of the asses, and of the sheep:
31:29 Take it of their half, and give it unto Eleazar the priest, for an heave offering of the LORD.
31:30 And of the children of Israel's half, thou shalt take one portion of fifty, of the persons, of the beeves, of the asses, and of the flocks, of all manner of beasts, and give them unto the Levites, which keep the charge of the tabernacle of the LORD.
31:31 And Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the LORD commanded Moses.
31:32 And the booty, being the rest of the prey which the men of war had caught, was six hundred thousand and seventy thousand and five thousand sheep,
31:33 And threescore and twelve thousand beeves,
31:34 And threescore and one thousand asses,
31:35 And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him.
31:36 And the half, which was the portion of them that went out to war, was in number three hundred thousand and seven and thirty thousand and five hundred sheep:
31:37 And the LORD'S tribute of the sheep was six hundred and threescore and fifteen.
31:38 And the beeves were thirty and six thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute was threescore and twelve.
31:39 And the asses were thirty thousand and five hundred; of which the LORD'S tribute was threescore and one.
31:40 And the persons were sixteen thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute was thirty and two persons.

This excerp was taken from "The Handbook of Jewish Knowledge" by Nathan Ausubel ©1964; pages 302-303

"Jephthah, one of the ruler judges following the conquest of Canaan, had sacrificed his only daughter to the God of Israel in a celebration of a military victory against the Ammonites; Samuel "the seer" had hacked in a sacrificial manner the body of Agag before God; David, the sensitive poet king had handed the seven sons of Saul to the Gibeonites "to hang them up unto God."

An example of this can be seen below, how the verse was changed in Judges 11:39.
In the others, the human has been replaced with a "lamb."

Judges 11:34
And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was his only child; beside her he had neither son nor daughter.
11:35
And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back.
11:36
And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the LORD, do to me according to that which hath proceeded out of thy mouth; forasmuch as the LORD hath taken vengeance for thee of thine enemies, even of the children of Ammon.
11:37
And she said unto her father, Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my fellows.
11:38
And he said, Go. And he sent her away for two months: and she went with her companions, and bewailed her virginity upon the mountains.
11:39
And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel,
11:40
That the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.

Just how obvious can this get? In Judges 11:35; Jephthah "rents" his clothes. For those of you who are unfamilair with this term, it is a hebrew and also ancient custom to rent (tear/rip) one's clothes upon the death of a loved one.
"for I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back." He has made a promise to sacrifice his only daughter to jehova. It is also glaringly apparent jehova demanded this act in exchange for his victory over his enemies and "the children of Ammon" as he stated "I cannot go back."

In Judges 11:37; His daughter states "Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity" "This thing be done for me" and "bewail my virginity" Here it is obvious jehova demanded the sacrifice of a virgin.

Judges 11:39; When she returned to her father "who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man." and Judges 11:40; "the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah" This is so obvious, he sacrificed his only virgin daughter to jehova who DEMANDED this act in exchange for his securing a victory for Jephthah.

CANNIBALISM:
Deuteronomy 28:53
And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee:
28:54
So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave:
28:55
So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates.
28:56
The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter,
28:57
And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates.
28:58
If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD;

HUMAN BLOOD WAS NOT ENOUGH, JEHOVA GAVE CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE RITUAL SLAUGHTER OF ANIMALS AS WELL:

Exodus 20:24
An altar of earth thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, and thine oxen: in all places where I record my name I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee.

Exodus 24:4
And Moses wrote all the words of the LORD, and rose up early in the morning, and builded an altar under the hill, and twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes of Israel.
24:5
And he sent young men of the children of Israel, which offered burnt offerings, and sacrificed peace offerings of oxen unto the LORD.
24:6
And Moses took half of the blood, and put it in basons; and half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar.
24:7
And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the LORD hath said will we do, and be obedient.
24:8
And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the LORD hath made with you concerning all these words.

More instructions from Jehova for blood sacrifice:
Exodus 23:18
Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leavened bread; neither shall the fat of my sacrifice remain until the morning.

Exodus 29:10 And thou shalt cause a bullock to be brought before the tabernacle of the congregation: and Aaron and his sons shall put their hands upon the head of the bullock.
29:11
And thou shalt kill the bullock before the LORD, by the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
29:12
And thou shalt take of the blood of the bullock, and put it upon the horns of the altar with thy finger, and pour all the blood beside the bottom of the altar.
29:13
And thou shalt take all the fat that covereth the inwards, and the caul that is above the liver, and the two kidneys, and the fat that is upon them, and burn them upon the altar.
29:14
But the flesh of the bullock, and his skin, and his dung, shalt thou burn with fire without the camp: it is a sin offering.
29:15
Thou shalt also take one ram; and Aaron and his sons shall put their hands upon the head of the ram.
29:16
And thou shalt slay the ram, and thou shalt take his blood, and sprinkle it round about upon the altar.
29:17
And thou shalt cut the ram in pieces, and wash the inwards of him, and his legs, and put them unto his pieces, and unto his head.
29:18
And thou shalt burn the whole ram upon the altar: it is a burnt offering unto the LORD: it is a sweet savour, an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
29:19
And thou shalt take the other ram; and Aaron and his sons shall put their hands upon the head of the ram.
29:20
Then shalt thou kill the ram, and take of his blood, and put it upon the tip of the right ear of Aaron, and upon the tip of the right ear of his sons, and upon the thumb of their right hand, and upon the great toe of their right foot, and sprinkle the blood upon the altar round about.
29:21
And thou shalt take of the blood that is upon the altar, and of the anointing oil, and sprinkle it upon Aaron, and upon his garments, and upon his sons, and upon the garments of his sons with him: and he shall be hallowed, and his garments, and his sons, and his sons' garments with him.
29:22
Also thou shalt take of the ram the fat and the rump, and the fat that covereth the inwards, and the caul above the liver, and the two kidneys, and the fat that is upon them, and the right shoulder; for it is a ram of consecration:
29:23
And one loaf of bread, and one cake of oiled bread, and one wafer out of the basket of the unleavened bread that is before the LORD:
29:24
And thou shalt put all in the hands of Aaron, and in the hands of his sons; and shalt wave them for a wave offering before the LORD.
29:25
And thou shalt receive them of their hands, and burn them upon the altar for a burnt offering, for a sweet savour before the LORD: it is an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
29:26
And thou shalt take the breast of the ram of Aaron's consecration, and wave it for a wave offering before the LORD: and it shall be thy part.
29:27
And thou shalt sanctify the breast of the wave offering, and the shoulder of the heave offering, which is waved, and which is heaved up, of the ram of the consecration, even of that which is for Aaron, and of that which is for his sons:
29:28
And it shall be Aaron's and his sons' by a statute for ever from the children of Israel: for it is an heave offering: and it shall be an heave offering from the children of Israel of the sacrifice of their peace offerings, even their heave offering unto the LORD.
29:29
And the holy garments of Aaron shall be his sons' after him, to be anointed therein, and to be consecrated in them.
29:30
And that son that is priest in his stead shall put them on seven days, when he cometh into the tabernacle of the congregation to minister in the holy place.
29:31
And thou shalt take the ram of the consecration, and seethe his flesh in the holy place.

Leviticus Chapter 1
1:1
And the LORD called unto Moses, and spake unto him out of the tabernacle of the congregation, saying,
1:2
Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, If any man of you bring an offering unto the LORD, ye shall bring your offering of the cattle, even of the herd, and of the flock.
1:3
If his offering be a burnt sacrifice of the herd, let him offer a male without blemish: he shall offer it of his own voluntary will at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the LORD.
1:4
And he shall put his hand upon the head of the burnt offering; and it shall be accepted for him to make atonement for him.
1:5
And he shall kill the bullock before the LORD: and the priests, Aaron's sons, shall bring the blood, and sprinkle the blood round about upon the altar that is by the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
1:6
And he shall flay the burnt offering, and cut it into his pieces.
1:7
And the sons of Aaron the priest shall put fire upon the altar, and lay the wood in order upon the fire:
1:8
And the priests, Aaron's sons, shall lay the parts, the head, and the fat, in order upon the wood that is on the fire which is upon the altar:
1:9
But his inwards and his legs shall he wash in water: and the priest shall burn all on the altar, to be a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of "a sweet savour unto the LORD".
1:10
And if his offering be of the flocks, namely, of the sheep, or of the goats, for a burnt sacrifice; he shall bring it a male without blemish.
1:11
And he shall kill it on the side of the altar northward before the LORD: and the priests, Aaron's sons, shall sprinkle his blood round about upon the altar.
1:12
And he shall cut it into his pieces, with his head and his fat: and the priest shall lay them in order on the wood that is on the fire which is upon the altar:
1:13
But he shall wash the inwards and the legs with water: and the priest shall bring it all, and burn it upon the altar: it is a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the LORD.
1:14
And if the burnt sacrifice for his offering to the LORD be of fowls, then he shall bring his offering of turtledoves, or of young pigeons.
1:15
And the priest shall bring it unto the altar, and wring off his head, and burn it on the altar; and the blood thereof shall be wrung out at the side of the altar:
1:16
And he shall pluck away his crop with his feathers, and cast it beside the altar on the east part, by the place of the ashes:
1:17
And he shall cleave it with the wings thereof, but shall not divide it asunder: and the priest shall burn it upon the altar, upon the wood that is upon the fire: it is a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the LORD.

Leviticus Chapter 7
7:1
Likewise this is the law of the trespass offering: it is most holy.
7:2
In the place where they kill the burnt offering shall they kill the trespass offering: and the blood thereof shall he sprinkle round about upon the altar.
7:3
And he shall offer of it all the fat thereof; the rump, and the fat that covereth the inwards,
7:4
And the two kidneys, and the fat that is on them, which is by the flanks, and the caul that is above the liver, with the kidneys, it shall he take away:
7:5
And the priest shall burn them upon the altar for an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it is a trespass offering.

Leviticus 7:14
And of it he shall offer one out of the whole oblation for an heave offering unto the LORD, and it shall be the priest's that sprinkleth the blood of the peace offerings.

THE "LORD" NEEDS EVERY DROP OF THAT BLOOD FROM THE BLOOD SACRIFICE:
Leviticus 7:27
Whatsoever soul it be that eateth any manner of blood, even that soul shall be cut off from his people.

Here, more blood sacrifice is needed to remove the curse of leprosy jehova has inflicted:
Leviticus 14:34

When ye be come into the land of Canaan, which I give to you for a possession, and I put the plague of leprosy in a house of the land of your possession;
14:49
And he shall take to cleanse the house two birds, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:
14:50
And he shall kill the one of the birds in an earthen vessel over running water:
14:51
And he shall take the cedar wood, and the hyssop, and the scarlet, and the living bird, and dip them in the blood of the slain bird, and in the running water, and sprinkle the house seven times:
14:52
And he shall cleanse the house with the blood of the bird, and with the running water, and with the living bird, and with the cedar wood, and with the hyssop, and with the scarlet:
14:53
But he shall let go the living bird out of the city into the open fields, and make an atonement for the house: and it shall be clean.
14:54
This is the law for all manner of plague of leprosy, and scall,
14:55
And for the leprosy of a garment, and of a house,
14:56
And for a rising, and for a scab, and for a bright spot:
14:57
To teach when it is unclean, and when it is clean: this is the law of leprosy.

More examples of blood sacrifices to Jehova:
Leviticus 8:14- 32
Leviticus 9:1- 24
Leviticus 14:1- 5
Leviticus 14:12-28
Leviticus 23:12-21
Numbers 19:1- 7
Joshua Chapter 10- Nothing but mass murder
Judges 1:1- 18 More bloodbaths and mass murder
Judges 3:27- 31

This goes on and on and on. Repeats of genocide, mass murder and bloodshed. The word "BLOOD" is used over and over again. You would think this would all be so obvious.

We all must bear in mind, the nazarene was the ultimate human sacrifice; also "eat his body and drink his blood" is repeatedly recited during nearly every xtian mass/service around the world.

Bloodbath after bloodbath, genocide and mass murder were incited by jehova to supply his need for blood.


Followers of Dionysus
sexymaenads

1/27/2007 07:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The New Testament and the Christian Religion


"It has served us well, this myth of Christ"
-Pope Leo X (1475-1521)*


THE MYTH OF THE RESURRECTION:

The resurrection is a common theme found in numerous completely different religions throughout the world. Symbolic of a descent to the underworld and a later return. Ishtar's/Inanna's descent and return(she was resurrected from the dead), Osiris, Siva's death and resurrection, Persephone's descent into the underworld and return, the list goes on and on and is based upon the seasons. The dark half, dead part of the year (winter) and the light half, growing season of the year (summer). This theme has been repeated over and over again in nearly every religion preceding xianity. Xianity is a very new religion in comparison to other religions it stole from that predated it by thousands of years.

* THE NUMEROUS TRINITIES: Anu, Enlil and Ea- the xtian church stole their "God the Father," "God the Son" from this one.
* Bel-Saturn, Jupiter-Bel, and Baal-Chom.
* Brahma, Vishnu and Siva
* Mithra, Varuna and Indra
* Jupiter, Juno and Minerva
* Osiris, Isis, and Horus
* Three-bodied goddess Hecate
* Three-headed Scylla
* Triune divinities of the Cabiri.
* Three-headed Dog, Cerberus
* Judaism, xianity and Islam (the three religions of monotheism)
* Taoism: the trinity San Qing (Three Pure Gods). Yu Qing (Jade Pure) Shang Qing (Upper Pure) and Tai Qing (Great Pure)
* Monju Bosatsu, Fugen Bosatsu and the historical Buddha called the "Shaka Trinity" (SHAKA SANZON)
* Ka ( Spirit or Ether), Ba ( Body), and the Ankh (Immortality)
* Tamas (Stability) Sattwa (orderliness) Rajas (Restlessness) from the "Guna" Sanskrit translation
* Artemis, Aphrodite and Hecate
* Kore, Persephone and Demeter
* Shen (Spirit), C'hi (Vitality) and Ching (Essence) the three treasures of Taoist Wai Tai (internal alchemy)
* Alpha, Omega and Iota
* The Devil's Trident


The list can go on and on and on and on. This starts to get to be a joke. Of course, we can't forget the father, the son and the "holy ghost."

The nazarene's crucifixion/execution is a repeat- nothing new.
Other Gods who were crucified or executed that predated this fictitious character are as follows:

* Krishna of India, 1200 BCE
* Buddha, 600 BCE. There is also a striking similarity here- the nazarene was hung from a tree (Acts 5:30 "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree." I Peter 2:24 "24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.") Buddha sat beneath a tree and experienced a rebirth, kind of ressurection.

Not to get off the subject of the execution here, but "The Latin cross was not a part of xianity until the 7th century and not fully acknowledged until the 9th century. Primitive churches preferred to represent the nazarene with the lamb. The lamb, by the way is another stolen symbol. The sacrificial lamb of Easter is represented by the sign of Aries the Ram." (which begins on March 21st of every year). The Lamb was also carried by Hermes and Osiris." In addition, Odin, Krishna, Marsyas, Dodonian and Zeus also hung from trees. Set was “crucified” on a “cross” known as a furka -From the book "The Woman's Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred Objects" by Barbara G. Walker, Page 54.

* Tammuz of Syria, 1160 BCE
* Wittoba of the Telingonese, 552 BCE
* Iao of Nepal, 622 BCE Iao is often spelt "Jao" sound familiar? This is the root of the hebrew god "Jehova."
* Hesus of the Celtic Druids, 834 BCE. Note the similarity of "Hesus" with "Jesus."
* Quetzacoatl of Mexico 587 BCE
* Quirinus of Rome 506 BCE
* Prometheus 547 BCE "In the account of the crucifixion of Prometheus of Caucasus, as furnished by Seneca, Hesiod and other writers, it is stated that he was nailed to an upright beam of timber to which were affixed extended arms of wood, and that this cross was situated near the Caspian Straits."
* Thulis of Egypt, 1700 BCE
* Indra of Tibet, 725 BCE
* Alcestos of Euripedes, 600 BCE
* Atys of Phrygia, 1170 BCE
* Crite of Chaldea, 1200 BCE
* Bali of Orissa, 725 BCE
* Mithra of Persia, 600 BCE

The above list was taken from the book "The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors" by Kersey Graves, Sixth Edition- 1960

XTIAN HOLIDAYS HAVE BEEN STOLEN AS WELL. ALL COINCIDE WITH PAGAN HOLIDAYS AND NOTED TIMES OF THE YEAR.

* "Easter" was stolen from Astaroth. Originally known as "Ashtar." This holiday coincides with the Vernal Equinox of spring when day and night are of equal length. Known as "Eastre" to the Anglo-Saxons. As the Goddess of fertility, she was associated with rabbits and eggs. The xtians stole this holiday and twisted its meaning. Other names include: Easter Eastre Eos Eostre Ester Estrus (Estrus is when an animal goes into heat; mating season) Oestrus Oistros and Ostara. Again, the "Lamb of God" was stolen from the Zodiac sign of Aries the Ram which occurs every spring.

* December 25th, xmas is getting to be a joke. Coinciding with the Winter Solstice and the Yule season, the shortest day of the year, the birthdate of the Persian God Mithra, the Roman Holiday of Saturnalis. The tree, decorations, baking, gifts and celebrating have NOTHING to do with the nazarene. These are carry-overs from Pagan celebrations. Here is an informative link covering the many Pagan Gods associated with and celebrated around or on December 25th
* "All Saint's Day" corresponds with "Halloween/Samhain."
* "Assumption Day" coincides with "Lammas Day" of the "Summer Solstice."

CHRISTIAN VESTMENTS AND THEIR WITCH/SORCERER PARALLELS:

* The Cincture is a parallel to the Witch's Cord or Girdle
* The Alb is a Ceremonial Robe
* The Bishop's Miter is a copy of the Ancient Egyptian Crowns of the Gods and the Pharaohs
* The Crosier represents the sorcerer's blasting rod and bears a strong resemblance to the Ancient Egyptian Crook

THE XTIAN ALTAR IS SET UP NEARLY IDENTICAL WITH A RITUAL ALTER FOR WITCHCRAFT:

The usual xtian mass/service makes use of the following:

* The Bell
* The Incense burner/Thurible
* The Candles
* The Host
* The Book
* The Chalice filled with wine
* Oil

Yet, in spite of this, the xtian church murdered enmasse, those accused of being witches, sorcerers and those of Pagan religions.

THE SORRY JOKE OF XTIAN SACRAMENTS:

With xtian sacraments, it is obvious they are bogus. One can come and go as one pleases and they have no meaning. Of course this stands to reason as they were all stolen. Some blatant examples:

* Baptism with water

* Confession- stolen from the Papyrus of the Royal Mother Nezemt

* The Communion Host

During a mass or church service, the priest or minister recites the line of "Eat my body and drink my blood" for the blessing of the communion host/eucharist. This is a carry-over from sacrificial rites. The nazarene was a human sacrifice as well, so it is no suprise they would want to "eat his body and drink his blood." This is what the host and the wine represent- AGAIN- stolen from early Pagan rites. Many Pagan religions today, use small cakes, similar to the host in their rites.

* "Holy Spirit"

This one took on a life of its own:


The "holy spirit" supposedly descended upon the apostles of the nazarene in tongues of fire:
Acts 2:2-4
2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
STOLEN from
"Ushnisha" is known as “flame of invisible light” sat upon the head of the Buddha or Buddhist holy man indicating divine intelligence.

* The Rosary was stolen from Tibetan Mala Beads, used for meditation. The repetition of the "hail marys" and the "our fathers" are stolen from the East Asian Mantras. A Mantra is a word repeated over and over to focus the mind in meditation. "Ohm" is the most common. The robotic repetitious prayers recited over and over again in xtian churches are also corrupted imitations of mantras.

* The church steeple is a copy of the Egyptian Obelisk, the only difference is the crucifix on top. We are all familiar with the Egyptian obelisk, such as "Cleopatra's Needle." This has a lot in common with the "Maypole." The "Maypole" was the symbol for the May King's phallus (erect penis). This is a symbol of fertility. On the eve of Beltane (April 30th), celebrants danced around the maypole. The original Egyptian obelisks were symbols of the phallus. They represented the erect organ of the earth God "Geb" as he lay on the ground trying to reach up to unite himself with the Goddess "Neith/Nut" of the overarching sky. Unbeknownst to most xians, their church steeple is a symbolic erect penis with a cross on top.

* "Amen" when said at the end of xtian prayers was STOLEN as well. "Amen" was stolen from the Egyptian "Amon." "Amon RA."

* The HALO was stolen from Hindu Gods and the Buddha. Both religions predated christianity by centuries.

* Xians venerating relics, ringing bells and burning incense are unwittingly imitating Hindu rituals that were established many centuries before judeo/christianity.

* The praying hands were stolen as well. They are an ancient Yogic Mudra. There are statues of the Hindu Gods and also the Buddha with the praying hands known as the "NAMASTE MUDRA." The folded hands as well, a variation, is yet another mudra that was stolen. Mudras are used in meditation to connect the minor chakra circuits in the hands and fingers. Many Yoga asanas have these as well. Check any on-line images of Hatha Yoga postures. Yoga predates xianity. Note the halo on the image of the Buddha below as well.

The Saints took the place of the Old Gods in the Catholic religion as the pope used this replacement method for converting polytheists to monotheism. Ancient Pagan Temples were destroyed and razed by xtians and churches were built over these. Many of these temples were built on Ley Lines, especially in Europe. This was at first an attempt to encourage Pagan peoples to attend xtian masses, but when this did not work, other methods such as torture and mass murder soon followed.

abracadabra
Sabrina

1/27/2007 07:23:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Come on old man, we have all been psychically conditioned for centuries to live in and reflect the lies of culture and history. Every unexamined imposition of 'truth' connects us to these lies. Hell, even if you examine the imposition, there is difficulty in separating oneself from the herd. I have family and friends that are quite ignorant, they do not even try; I still love them. People here are trying, and I love them for it. Misguided; well maybe, ok well of course, yet in fact, there are holes in your outlook also.

1/27/2007 07:42:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

If you really, really, really, want to know anon 5:43, you will have your information soon enough.

You are not going to like the answers however.

Use your pismire, and serve the WARRANT on yourself.

1/27/2007 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pentheus, despite all warnings, imprisoned Dionysus, but he, being a God, set himself free when he wished, and having put Pentheus's home on fire,knocked it to the ground.

In the meantime, a messenger reported to the king that marvels were taking place in Mount Cithaeron where the Theban women had been dancing.
For, to begin with, they were not drunk with the goblet, or entranced by the flute, and there was no, as the king used to call it to all who would listen, "hunting of Aphrodite".

But instead there were women, old and young, who were a marvel of orderliness to see, giving milk to gazelles and wolf-pups, for among them there were several, who having abandoned their new-born children, had their breasts swollen.

And they put on garlands of ivy and oak, and in the place where one of them stroke the ground with her thyrsos, which is a staff that is crowned with ivy, there came forth a stream of wine.
And when they scratched the earth with their fingers, they obtained streams of milk, and honey dripped from the thyrsoi.


This is what happened when the MAENADS were left in peace. But when they were ambushed and persecuted by the king's men, they could tear apart whoever came in their way, man or animal. For when the guards escaped their fury, the women sprang on the heifers, and rent asunder the calves, while others tore apart cows and stumbled fierce bulls to the ground. And in the same way, resembling soldiers, they could fall upon towns, turning everything upside down, and snatching the children from their homes. And they could also carry heavy objects on their shoulders without holding them with bounds, and they were seen carrying fire on their locks without being burned. And when those who were thus plundered by the MAENADS opposed them with their arms, they were unable to wound them, for no blood came forth when they were touched by weapons, whereas the MAENADS continuously wounded their enemies by hurling the thyrsoi at them.



On seeing how unarmed women were defeating armed men, some began to understand that such things cannot be achieved without the help of a god, and that is why they exhorted Pentheus 1 to do as follows:

"Receive this god then, whoever he is, into this city, master. For he is great in other respects, and they say this too of him, as I hear, that he gives to mortals the vine that puts an end to grief. Without wine there is no longer Aphrodite or any other pleasant thing for men." [Messenger to Pentheus 1. Euripides, Bacchanals 770]

Freedom will never die a quiet death.
..............................................


Wilhelm Reich was also a student of Sigmond like JUNG also was.
He was demonized and they destroyed him, but his ideas live on.



Wilhelm Reich (March 24, 1897–November 3, 1957) was an Austrian psychiatrist and psychoanalyst. [1]

Reich was a respected analyst for much of his life, focusing on character structure, rather than on individual neurotic symptoms. [2] He was in many ways Ahead of his time in promoting Healthy Adolescent Sexuality, the availability of contraceptives and abortion, and the importance to women of economic independence. [3] His biographer Myron Sharaf writes that Reich's work left a deep impression on influential thinkers such as Alexander Lowen, Fritz Perls, Paul Goodman, Saul Bellow, Norman Mailer, and William Burroughs. [4]

He was also a Controversial figure, particularly in later life, who came to be viewed by the psychoanalytic establishment as having "Gone Astray" [3] or of having succumbed to mental illness. [5] He is best known for his studies on the link between human sexuality and emotions, and the importance of what he called "orgastic potency"; and for what he said was the discovery of a form of energy that permeated the atmosphere and all living matter, which he called "orgone." He built boxes called "orgone accumulators," which patients could sit inside, and which were intended to harness the energy for what he believed were its health benefits. It was this work, in particular, that cemented the rift between Reich and the psychiatric establishment. [3][6][1]

Reich was living in Germany when Adolf Hitler came to power. Labeled a communist Jew by the Nazis, [7] he fled to Scandinavia, before taking refuge in the United States in 1939. But in 1947, following a series of critical articles about orgone in The New Republic and Harper's, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) began an investigation into his claims, and, in 1954, won an injunction prohibiting the interstate sale of orgone accumulators. Two years later, Reich was charged with contempt of court for violating the injunction. He insisted on conducting his own defense, which included sending copies of his books to the judge. In June 1956, he was sentenced to two years in Federal prison; later that year, several tons of his publications were burned by agents of the FDA. [6][1] Reich died behind bars, of heart failure, one year later, just days before he was due to apply for parole. [8]

Reich was born in 1897 to Leon Reich, a prosperous farmer, and Cecilia Roniger, in Dobrzanica, a village near Peremyshliany, Galicia, then part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, now in Ukraine. Three years after his birth, the couple had a second son, Robert.

His father was by all accounts strict, cold, and jealous. He was Jewish, but Reich was later at pains to point out that his father had moved away from Judaism and had not raised his children as Jews; Reich wasn't allowed to play with Yiddish-speaking Jewish children, [9] and as an adult did not want to be described as Jewish. [10]

Shortly after his birth, the family moved south to a farm in Jujinetz, near Chernivtsi, Bukovina, where Reich's father took control of a cattle farm owned by his mother's family. Reich attributed his later interest in the study of sex and the biological basis of the emotions to his upbringing on the farm where, as he later put it, the "natural life functions" were never hidden from him. [11] Reich also spoke of sexual encounters he had had with a maid, where he witnessed intercourse between her and her boyfriend, and apparently later asked if he could "play" the part of the lover. He said that, by the time he was four years old, there were no secrets about sex for him. [9]
“ I had read somewhere that lovers get rid of any intruder, so with wild fantasies in my brain I slipped back to my bed, my joy of life shattered, torn apart in my inmost being for my whole life! — Wilhelm Reich. [12] ”

He was taught at home until he was 12, when his mother committed suicide by drinking a cheap household cleaner after being discovered having an affair with Reich's tutor, who lived with the family. In a report supposedly about a patient, Reich wrote about how deeply the affair had affected him, according to Myron Sharaf. Night after night, he had heard his mother creep to her lover's room, had followed her, and had overheard the couple's lovemaking. He felt ashamed, angry, and jealous; he wondered whether they would kill him if they realized he knew, and briefly had the thought of forcing his mother to have sex with him too, on pain of the father being told of the affair. He wrote that his "joy of life [was] shattered, torn apart from [his] inmost being for the rest of [his] life!" [13]

Torn between the desire to tell his father and the wish to protect his mother from his father's revenge, he later blamed himself for what happened, waking in the night overwhelmed by the idea that he had killed her. Her death was particularly brutal because of the method she chose, which left her in great pain for days before she died. The tutor was sent away, and Reich was left without his mother or his teacher, and with a powerful sense of guilt. [14]

He was sent to the all-male Czernowitz gymnasium, excelling at Latin, Greek, and the natural sciences. It appears to have been during this period that a skin condition developed that plagued Reich for the rest of his life. When it began is unclear, but it was diagnosed as psoriasis, and Sharaf speculates that it may have been triggered by his mother's suicide. Reich was given medication that contained arsenic, now known to make psoriasis worse.

Reich's father was "completely broken" by his wife's suicide. [15] In or around 1914, he took out a life insurance policy then stood for hours in a cold pond, apparently fishing, but in fact intending to commit slow suicide, according to Reich and his brother Robert. [16] He contracted pneumonia and then tuberculosis, and died in 1914 as a result of his illness; despite his insurance policy, no money was forthcoming. [16]

Reich managed the farm and continued with his studies, graduating in 1915 mit Stimmeneinhelligheit (unanimous approval). In the summer of 1915, the Russians invaded Bukovina and the Reich brothers fled to Vienna, losing everything. In his Passion of Youth, Reich wrote: "I never saw either my homeland or my possessions again. Of a well-to-do past, nothing was left."

Studies
Sigmund Freud and Reich met in 1919 when Reich needed literature for a sexology seminar.
Sigmund Freud and Reich met in 1919 when Reich needed literature for a sexology seminar.

Reich joined the Austrian Army after school, serving from 1915-18, for the last two years as a lieutenant.

In 1918, when the war ended, he entered the medical school at the University of Vienna. As an undergraduate, he was drawn to the work of Sigmund Freud; the men first met in 1919 when Reich visited Freud to obtain literature for a seminar on sexology. Freud left a strong impression on Reich. Freud allowed him to start seeing analytic patients as early as late 1919 or early 1920. Reich was accepted as a guest member of the Vienna Psychoanalytic Association in the summer of 1920, and became a regular member in October 1920, at the age of 23. [17]

He was allowed to complete his six-year medical degree in four years because he was a war veteran, and received his M.D. in July 1922. [1]


He worked in internal medicine at University Hospital, Vienna, and studied neuropsychiatry from 1922-24 at the Neurological and Psychiatric Clinic under Professor Wagner-Jauregg, who won the Nobel Prize in medicine in 1927.

In 1922, he set up private practice as a psychoanalyst, and became first clinical assistant, and later vice-director, at Freud's Psychoanalytic Polyclinic. He joined the faculty of the Psychoanalytic Institute in Vienna in 1924, and conducted research into the social causes of neurosis. It was at the Vienna Psychoanalytic Association that Reich met Annie Pink, a fellow analyst-in-training. They married, and had their first daughter, Eva, in 1924 and a second daughter in 1928. The couple separated in 1933, leaving the children with the mother.

Reich developed a theory that the ability to feel sexual love depended on a physical ability to make love with what he called "orgastic potency." He attempted to "measure" the male orgasm, noting that four distinct phases occurred physiologically: first, the psychosexual build-up or tension; second. the tumescence of the penis, with an accompanying "charge," which Reich measured electrically; third, an electrical discharge at the moment of orgasm, and fourth, the relaxation of the penis. He believed the force that he measured was a distinct type of energy present in all life forms and later called it "orgone." [7]

He was a prolific writer for psychoanalytic journals in Europe, and his book Character Analysis brought forth a small revolution [citation needed] in the practice of psychoanalysis itself, and is still used today as a textbook for analytically oriented classes in medical schools. [citation needed] Originally psychoanalysis was focused on the treatment of neurotic symptoms. Character Analysis was a major step in the development of what today would be called ego psychology. In Reich's view a person's entire character (or personality), not only individual symptoms, could be looked at and treated as a neurotic phenomenon. The book also introduced Reich's theory of "body armoring." He argued that unreleased psychosexual energy could produce actual physical blocks within muscles and organs, and that these act as a "body armor," preventing the release of the energy. An orgasm was one way to break through the armor. These ideas developed into a general theory of the importance of a healthy sex life to overall well-being, a theory compatible with Freud's views.

Reich agreed with Freud that sexual development was the origin of mental disorder. They both believed that most psychological states were dictated by unconscious processes; that infant sexuality develops early but is repressed, and that this has important consequences for mental health. At that time a Marxist, Reich argued that the source of sexual repression was bourgeois morality and the socio-economic structures that produced it. As sexual repression was the cause of the neuroses, the best cure would be to have an active, guilt-free sex life. He argued that such a liberation could come about only through a morality not imposed by a repressive economic structure. [18] In 1928, he joined the Austrian Communist Party and founded the Socialist Association for Sexual Counselling and Research, which organized counselling centers for workers—in contrast to Freud, who was perceived as treating only the bourgeoisie.

Reich employed an unusual therapeutic method. He used touch to accompany the talking cure, taking an active role in sessions, feeling his patients' chests to check their breathing, repositioning their bodies, and sometimes requiring them to remove their clothes, so that men were treated wearing shorts and women in bra and panties. These methods caused a split between Reich and the rest of the psychoanalytic community. [7]

In 1930, he moved his practice to Berlin and joined the Communist Party of Germany. His best-known book, The Sexual Revolution, was published at this time in Vienna. Advocating free contraceptives and abortion on demand, he again set up clinics in working-class areas and taught sex education, but became too outspoken even for the communists, and eventually, after his book The Mass Psychology of Fascism was published, he was expelled from the party in 1933.

In this book Reich categorized fascism as a symptom of sexual repression. The book was banned by the Nazis when they came to power. He realized he was in danger and hurriedly left Germany disguised as a tourist on a ski trip to Austria. Reich was expelled from the International Psychological Association in 1934 for political militancy. He spent some years in Denmark, Sweden, and Norway, before leaving for the United States in 1939.

[edit] The bion experiments

From 1934-37, based for most of the period in Oslo, Reich conducted experiments seeking the origins of life. He examined protozoa, which are single-celled creatures with nuclei. He grew cultured vesicles using grass, beach sand, iron, and animal tissue, boiling them, adding potassium and gelatin. Having heated the materials to incandescence with a heat-torch, he noted bright, glowing, blue vesicles, which, he claimed, could be cultured, and which gave off an observable radiant energy, which he called orgone. He named the vesicles "bions" and believed they were a rudimentary form of life, or halfway between life and non-life. When he poured the cooled mixture onto growth media, bacteria were born. Based on various control experiments Reich dismissed the idea that the bacteria were already present in the air, or in the other materials used. Reich's The Bion Experiments on the Origin of Life was published in Oslo in 1938, leading to attacks in the press that he was a "Jew pornographer" who was daring to meddle with the origins of life. [7]



In 1936, in Beyond Psychology, Reich wrote that "[s]ince everything is antithetically arranged, there must be two different types of single-celled organisms: (a) life-destroying organisms or organisms that form through organic decay, (b) life-promoting organisms that form from inorganic material that comes to life."

This idea of spontaneous generation led him to believe he had found the cause of cancer. He called the life-destroying organisms "T-bacilli," with the T standing for Tod, German for death. He described in The Cancer Biopathy how he had found them in a culture of rotting cancerous tissue obtained from a local hospital. He wrote that T-bacilli were formed from the disintegration of protein; they were 0.2 to 0.5 micrometre in length, shaped like lancets, and when injected into mice, they caused inflammation and cancer. He concluded that, when orgone energy diminishes in cells through ageing or injury, the cells undergo "bionous degeneration" or death. At some point, the deadly T-bacilli start to form in the cells. Death from cancer, he believed, was caused by an overwhelming growth of the T-bacilli.

[edit] Orgone accumulators and cloudbusters
Reich built "orgone accumulators" to harness orgone, which he believed was responsible for emotions and sexuality. Wild rumors spread that his "sex boxes" caused uncontrollable erections.
Reich built "orgone accumulators" to harness orgone, which he believed was responsible for emotions and sexuality. Wild rumors spread that his "sex boxes" caused uncontrollable erections.
He designed a "cloudbuster," which he said could manipulate streams of orgone energy to produce rain.
He designed a "cloudbuster," which he said could manipulate streams of orgone energy to produce rain.

In March 1938, Hitler annexed Austria. Reich's ex-wife and daughters had already left for the U.S., and in August 1939, Reich sailed out of Norway on the last boat to leave before the war began. He settled in Forest Hills, Long Island, and in 1946, married Ilse Ollendorf, with whom he had a son, Peter.

It was during this period, according to some researchers, that Reich appeared to suffer a breakdown. They say that he became paranoid and revised parts of his earlier works to remove references to Marxist theory. [1] Reich's defenders say that Reich's revisions were minor, confined only to the English-speaking American period of his work, and were primarily sexological, clinical, or scientific in nature. Reich was one of the first of the European socialists to break ranks completely with the Communist Party; for example, in his book Mass Psychology of Fascism, which he wrote after a trip to Russia, he identified communism as "Red Fascism". His defenders say that the charge of paranoia is intended to discredit Reich's critique of Marxism. American writer Jim Martin alleges that many of those who have attacked Reich's biophysical research—on the orgone accumulator, for example—are themselves leftist and Marxist. [19]

In 1940, Reich built boxes called orgone accumulators to concentrate atmospheric orgone energy; some were for lab animals, and some were large enough for a human being to sit inside. Reich said orgone was the "primordial cosmic energy", blue in color, which he claimed was omnipresent and responsible for such things as weather, the color of the sky, gravity, the formation of galaxies, and the biological expressions of emotion and sexuality. Composed of alternating layers of ferrous metals and insulators with a high dielectric constant, his orgone accumulators had the appearance of a large, hollow capacitor. He believed that sitting inside the box might provide a treatment for cancer and other illnesses. It was the construction of these boxes that caught the attention of the press, leading to wild rumors that they were "sex boxes" which caused uncontrollable erections. [7]

Reich also designed a "cloudbuster" with which he said he could manipulate streams of orgone energy in the atmosphere to induce rain by forcing clouds to form and disperse. Based on experiments with the orgone accumulator, he argued that orgone energy was a negatively-entropic force in nature which was responsible for concentrating and organizing matter. During one drought-relief expedition to Arizona, he claimed to have observed UFOs, as well as at Orgonon, Maine, and speculated that orgone might be used for the propulsion of UFOs. Because Reich and his co-workers claimed to have seen clouds appear with the UFOs, they called it DOR (Deadly Orgone). [citation needed]

According to Reich's theory, illness was primarily caused by depletion or blockages of the orgone energy within the body. He conducted clinical tests of the orgone accumulator on people suffering from a variety of illnesses. The patient would sit within the accumulator and absorb the "concentrated orgone energy". He built smaller, more portable accumulator-blankets of the same layered construction for application to parts of the body. The effects observed were claimed to boost the immune system, even to the point of destroying certain types of tumors, though Reich was hesitant to claim this constituted a "cure." The orgone accumulator was also tested on mice with cancer, and on plant-growth, the results convincing Reich that the benefits of orgone therapy could not be attributed to a placebo effect. He had, he believed, developed a grand unified theory of physical and mental health. [20]

[edit] Orgone experiment with Einstein
Reich discussed orgone accumulators with Albert Einstein in 1941.
Reich discussed orgone accumulators with Albert Einstein in 1941.

On December 30, 1940, Reich wrote to Albert Einstein saying he had a scientific discovery he wanted to discuss, and on January 13, 1941 went to visit Einstein in Princeton. They talked for five hours, [21] and Einstein agreed to test an orgone accumulator, which Reich had constructed out of a Faraday cage made of galvanized steel and insulated by wood and paper on the outside. Einstein agreed that if, as Reich suggested, an object's temperature could be raised without an apparent heating source, it would be "a bomb" in physics. [22] This heating effect would be an amazing result since it would allow the construction of a perpetual motion machine, [23] which would violate the laws of thermodynamics.[24]

Reich supplied Einstein with a small accumulator during their second meeting, and Einstein performed the experiment in his basement, which involved taking the temperature atop, inside, and near the device. He also stripped the device down to its Faraday cage to compare temperatures. Over the course of a week, in both cases, Einstein observed a rise in temperature, and confirmed Reich's finding. [25] Reich concluded that the heat was the result of a novel form of energy—orgone energy—that had accumulated inside the Faraday cage. However, one of Einstein's colleagues at Princeton interpreted the phenomenon as resulting from thermal convection currents. Einstein concurred that the experiment could be explained by convection. [25]

Reich responded with a 25-page letter to Einstein, expressing concern that "convection from the ceiling" would join "air germs" and "Brownian movement" to explain away new findings, according to Reich's biographer, Myron Sharaf. Sharaf writes that Einstein conducted some more experiments, but then regarded the matter as "completely solved." [25]

The correspondence between Reich and Einstein was published by Reich's press as The Einstein Affair in 1953, possibly without Einstein's permission. [26]

[edit] Controversy

[edit] The Brady article and the FDA

Reich was investigated by the FBI when he arrived in the U.S. because he was an immigrant with a communist background. The FBI released 789 pages of its files on Reich in 2000; a State Department press release stated:

This German immigrant described himself as the Associate Professor of Medical Psychology, Director of the Orgone Institute, President and research physician of the Wilhelm Reich Foundation and discoverer of biological or life energy. A 1940 security investigation was begun to determine the extent of Reich's communist commitments. A board of Alien Enemy Hearing judged that Dr. Reich was not a threat to the security of the U.S. In 1947, a security investigation concluded that neither the Orgone Project nor any of its staff were engaged in subversive activities or were in violation of any statute within the jurisdiction of the FBI. [27]

Myron Sharaf writes that Reich's life in America was relatively peaceful until 1947. There were a few of what Sharaf calls snide articles, and rumors about Reich's sanity, but no organized opposition. Then on May 26, 1947, an article appeared in The New Republic entitled "The Strange Case of Wilhelm Reich" by freelance writer Mildred Edie Brady. The subhead was "The man who blames both neuroses and cancer on unsatisfactory sexual activities has been repudiated by only one scientific journal." [28]

Sharaf writes that the article consisted of combined truths, half-truths, and lies. Brady wrote:

Orgone, named after the sexual orgasm, is, according to Reich, a cosmic energy. It is, in fact, the cosmic energy. Reich has not only discovered it; he has seen it, demonstrated it and named a town — Orgonon, Maine — after it. Here he builds accumulators of it which are rented out to patients, who presumably derive 'orgastic potency' from it. [28]

Sharaf writes that the implication was clear: the accumulators gave orgastic potency, the lack of which causes cancer. Therefore, the claim for the accumulators was that they cured cancer. Brady argued that the "growing Reich cult" had to be dealt with. [29]

Two months later, on July 23, Dr. J.J. Durrett, director of the Medical Advisory Division of the Federal Trade Commission, wrote to the FDA asking them to look into Reich's claims about the health benefits of orgone. [30] The FDA assigned an investigator named Wood to the case, who learned that Reich had built 250 accumulators; the FDA concluded that they were dealing with a "fraud of the first magnitude." [31] Sharaf writes that the FDA suspected a "sexual racket" of some kind; questions were asked about the women associated with orgonomy and "what was done with them." [32]
“ I would like to plead for my right to investigate natural phenomena without having guns pointed at me. I also ask for the right to be wrong without being hanged for it. — Wilhelm Reich. [33] ”

In November, Reich wrote in Conspiracy. An Emotional Chain Reaction: "I would like to plead for my right to investigate natural phenomena without having guns pointed at me. I also ask for the right to be wrong without being hanged for it ... I am angry because smearing can do anything and truth can do so little to prevail, as it seems at the moment." [34] Sharaf writes that Reich came to believe that Mildred Brady was a Stalinist acting under orders from the Communist Party, a "communist sniper," as Reich called her. [35][36]

On February 10, 1954, the U.S. Attorney for Maine, acting on behalf of the FDA, filed a complaint seeking a permanent injunction under Sections 301 and 302 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, to prevent interstate shipment of orgone-therapy equipment and literature. [2] Reich refused to appear in court, apparently believing that no court was in a position to evaluate his work. In his cover letter for the response he submitted to the court, he wrote to Judge Clifford:

My factual position in the case as well as in the world of science of today does not permit me to enter the case against the Food and Drug Administration, since such action would, in my mind, imply admission of the authority of this special branch of the government to pass judgment on primordial, pre-atomic cosmic orgone energy.

I, therefore, rest the case in full confidence in your hands.[37]

Because of Reich's failure to appear, Judge Clifford granted the injunction on March 19, 1954. [3] His ruling ordered that all written materials that mentioned "orgone energy" — including papers and pamphlets, and ten of Reich's books — were to be destroyed. It further stated that additional copies of his books, including revised classics like The Mass Psychology of Fascism, could not be published unless all references to "orgone energy" were deleted.

[edit] Imprisonment and death

In May 1956, Reich was arrested for technical violation of the injunction when an associate moved some orgone-therapy equipment across a state line, and Reich was charged with contempt of court. Once again, he refused to arrange a legal defense. He was brought in chains to the courthouse in Portland, Maine. Representing himself, he admitted to having violated the injunction and arranged for the judge to be sent copies of his books. He was sentenced to two years' imprisonment.

Dr. Morton Herskowitz, a fellow psychiatrist and friend of Reich's wrote of the trial: "Because he viewed himself as a historical figure, he was making a historical point, and to make that point he had conducted the trial that way. If I had been in his shoes, I would have wanted to escape jail, I would have wanted to be free, etc. I would have conducted the trial on a strictly legal basis because the lawyers had said, 'We can win this case for you. Their case is so weak, so when you let us do our thing we can get you off.' But he wouldn't do it." [4]

On June 5, 1956, FDA officials traveled to Orgonon, Reich's 200-acre (80-hectare) estate near Rangeley, Maine, where they destroyed the accumulators, and on June 26, burned many of his books. On August 25, 1956 and again on March 17, 1960, [5] the remaining six tons of his books, journals and papers were burned in the 25th Street public incinerator in New York's lower east side (Gansevoort incinerator). In March 1957, he was sent to Danbury Federal Prison, where a psychiatrist examined him, recording: "Paranoia manifested by delusions of grandiosity and persecution and ideas of reference." [6]

Reich died in his sleep of heart failure on November 3, 1957 in the federal penitentiary in Lewisburg, Pennsylvania, shortly before he was due to apply for parole. Not one psychiatric or established scientific journal carried an obituary. Time Magazine noted on November 18, 1957:

Died. Wilhelm Reich, 60, once-famed psychoanalyst, associate, and follower of Sigmund Freud, founder of the Wilhelm Reich Foundation, lately better known for unorthodox sex and energy theories; of a heart attack in Lewisburg Federal Penitentiary, Pa; where he was serving a two-year term for distributing his invention, the "orgone energy accumulator" (in violation of the Food and Drug Act), a telephone-booth-size device which supposedly gathered energy from the atmosphere, and could cure, while the patient sat inside, common colds, cancer and impotence. [6]

Reich was buried in Orgonon. At his own instruction, his granite headstone said simply:
Wilhelm Reich
Born March 24, 1897
Died November 3, 1957



New research journals devoted to Reich's work began to appear in the 1960s. Physicians and natural scientists with an interest in Reich organized small study groups and institutes, and new research efforts were undertaken. James DeMeo of the Orgone Biophysical Research Laboratory undertook research at the University of Kansas into Reich's atmospheric theories. [38] A later study by DeMeo subjected Reich's sex-economic theory to cross-cultural evaluations. [39]

Reich's orgone research has not found an open reception, and the mainstream scientific community remains hostile to his ideas. There is some use of orgone accumulator therapy by psychotherapists in Europe, particularly in Germany. [citation needed] A double-blind, controlled study of the psychological and physical effects of the orgone accumulator was carried out by Stefan Mueschenich and Rainer Gebauer at the University of Marburg, [40] and appeared to validate some of Reich's claims. [citation needed] The study was later reproduced by Günter Hebenstreit at the University of Vienna. [citation needed] William Steig, Norman Mailer, William S. Burroughs, and Orson Bean have all undergone Reich's orgone therapy.

His influence is felt in modern psychotherapy. He was a pioneer of body psychotherapy and several emotions-based psychotherapies, influencing Fritz Perls' Gestalt therapy and Arthur Janov's primal therapy. See also Neo-Reichian massage. His pupil Alexander Lowen, the founder of bioenergetic analysis, Charles Kelley, the founder of Radix therapy, and James DeMeo ensure that his research receives widespread attention. Many practising psychoanalysts give credence to his theory of character, and his book Character Analysis is still used as a textbook. The American College of Orgonomy, [41] originally led by Elsworth Baker, and the Institute for Orgonomic Science, [42] led by Dr. Morton Herskowitz, still use Reich's original therapeutic methods.

Nearly all Reich's publications have been reprinted, apart from his research journals which are available as photocopies from the Wilhelm Reich Museum. The first editions are not available: Reich continuously amended his books throughout his life, and the owners of Reich's intellectual property actively forbid anything other than the latest revised versions to be reprinted. In the late 1960s, Farrar, Straus & Giroux republished Reich's major works. Reich's earlier books, particularly The Mass Psychology of Fascism, are regarded as historically valuable. [43]

[edit] Reich in popular culture

Reich's life and work continue to influence popular culture, with references to orgone and cloudbusting found in songs by Clutch, Hawkwind, Pop Will Eat Itself, Turbonegro and Patti Smith. Kate Bush's song "Cloudbusting" and video describe Reich's arrest and incarceration through the eyes of Reich's son, Peter, who wrote his father's story in A Book of Dreams, published in 1973. Frank Zappa was also influenced by Reich's work. The philosopher and science fiction author Robert Anton Wilson wrote a play, Wilhelm Reich in Hell, based on his life. A film about Reich's teachings called W.R.: Mysteries of the Organism was made in 1971 by Yugoslavian director Dusan Makavejev. Reich appeared in 2000 as the superhero "Orgone Lad", a member of the League of Infinity in Supreme by Alan Moore. Quotes from Wilhelm Reich adorn the liner notes to Generic, an album by the San Francisco punk group Flipper.

[edit] Notes

1. ^ a b c d Biography, The Wilhelm Reich Museum, retrieved August 14, 2006.
2. ^ "Wilhelm Reich," Encyclopaedia Britannica.
3. ^ a b c Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 4.
4. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 5.
5. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 8.
6. ^ a b c Obituary notice for Wilhelm Reich, Time Magazine, November 18, 1957.
7. ^ a b c d e Cantwell, Alan. "Dr. Wilhelm Reich: Scientific Genuis or Medical Madman?", New Dawn Magazine, retrieved August 14, 2006.
8. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 477.
9. ^ a b Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 39.
10. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 463.
11. ^ Reich, Wilhelm. "Background and scientific development of Wilhelm Reich," Orgone Energy Bulletin V, 1953, p. 6, cited in Sharaf 1994, p. 40 and p. 488, footnote 10.
12. ^ Reich, Wilhelm. "Ueber einen Fall von Durchbruch der Inzestschranke in der Pubertät," Zeitschrift für Sexualwissenschaft, VII, 1920, 222-223, cited in and translated by Sharaf 1994, p. 43 and p. 448, footnote 12.
13. ^ Reich, Wilhelm. "Ueber einen Fall von Durchbruch der Inzestschranke in der Pubertät," Zeitschrift für Sexualwissenschaft, VII, 1920, 222-223, cited in and translated by Sharaf 1994, p. 43 and p. 448, footnote 12.
14. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 42-46.
15. ^ Reich, Wilhelm. "Ueber einen Fall von Durchbruch der Inzestschranke in der Pubertät," op cit, cited in Sharaf 1994, p. 47 and p. 489, footnote 21.
16. ^ a b Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 48.
17. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 58.
18. ^ D'Aloia, Alessandro. "Marxism and Psychoanalysis: Notes on Wilhelm Reich’s Life and Works", Marxist.com, retrieved August 14, 2006.
19. ^ Martin, Jim. Wilhelm Reich and the Cold War, Flatland Books, Mendocino, CA, 2000.
20. ^ Klee, Gerald D. "What ever happened to orgone therapy?", The Maryland Psychiatric Society, Summer 2001; Vol. 28, No. 1; Pg 13-15, retrieved August 14, 2006.
21. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. De Capo Press, 1994, p. 285.
22. ^ Brian, Denis. 1996. Einstein: A Life, John Wiley & Sons, New York, p.326.
23. ^ "Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) About New Energy Science and Technology", New Energy Foundation, Inc., 2003, retrieved August 14, 2006.
24. ^ Perpetual Motion Machines at The British Columbia Institute of Technology
25. ^ a b c Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. De Capo Press, 1994, p. 286.
26. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. De Capo Press, 1994, p. 288.
27. ^ "FBI adds new subjects to electronic reading room", U.S. State Department, March 2, 2000.
28. ^ a b Brady, Mildred. "The Strange case of Wilhelm Reich," The New Republic, May 26, 1947 cited in Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 360.
29. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 361.
30. ^ FDA file on Reich, cited in Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 363 and footnote 6, p. 513.
31. ^ FDA file on Reich, cited in Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 364 and footnote 11, p. 513.
32. ^ Greenfield, Jerome. Wilhelm Reich Vs. the U.S.A.. W.W. Norton, 1974, p. 69, cited in Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 364 and footnote 13, p. 513.
33. ^ Reich, Wilhelm. Conspiracy. An Emotional Chain Reaction, item 386A, cited in Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 367 and footnote 14, p. 513.
34. ^ Reich, Wilhelm. Conspiracy. An Emotional Chain Reaction, item 386A, cited in Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 367 and footnote 14, p. 513.
35. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 367.
36. ^ Jim Martin writes that Michael Straight, a former member of the Cambridge Apostles and friend of some of those involved in the Soviet-Cambridge spy ring, was the publisher of the Brady articles, and that the attack on Reich may have been prompted by Reich's turning his back on Marxism. (Martin, Jim. Wilhelm Reich and the Cold War, Flatland Books, Mendocino, CA, 2000.)
37. ^ "Wilhelm Reich's Response to FDA's Complaint for Injunction", February 25, 1954, posted on orgone.org.
38. ^ DeMeo, James. "Preliminary Analysis of Changes in Kansas Weather Coincidental to Experimental Operations with a Reich Cloudbuster," KU Geography-Meteorology Dept, 1979.
39. ^ DeMeo, James. "On the Origins and Diffusion of Patrism: The Saharasian Connection" , lated included in "Saharasia: The 4000 BCE Origins of Child-Abuse, Sex-Repression, Warfare and Social Violence, In the Deserts of the Old World", Natural Energy 1998.
40. ^ Mueschenich, Stefan & Gebauer, Rainer "Psycho-Physiological Effects of the Reich Orgone Accumulator," University of Marburg.
41. ^ The American College of Orgonomy
42. ^ Institute for Orgonomic Science
43. ^ A good overview of Reich's work is Wilhelm Reich: The evolution of his work by David Boadella. A [bibliography on orgonomy gives full citations to university dissertations, and to controlled experiments replicating Reich's work on bions, the orgone accumulator, and the cloudbuster.



German-language books

* Der triebhafte Charakter : Eine psychoanalytische Studie zur Pathologie des Ich, 1925
* Die Funktion des Orgasmus : Zur Psychopathologie und zur Soziologie des Geschlechtslebens, 1927
* Dialektischer Materialismus und Psychoanalyse, 1929
* Geschlechtsreife, Enthaltsamkeit, Ehemoral : Eine Kritik der bürgerlichen Sexualreform, 1930
* Der Einbruch der Sexualmoral : Zur Geschichte der sexuellen Ökonomie, 1932
* Charakteranalyse : Technik und Grundlagen für studierende und praktizierende Analytiker, 1933
* Massenpsychologie des Faschismus, 1933 (original Marxist edition, banned by the Nazis and the Communists)
* Was ist Klassenbewußtsein? : Über die Neuformierung der Arbeiterbewegung, 1934
* Psychischer Kontakt und vegetative Strömung, 1935
* Die Sexualität im Kulturkampf : Zur sozialistischen Umstrukturierung des Menschen, 1936
* Die Bione : Zur Entstehung des vegetativen Lebens, 1938

English-language books

* American Odyssey:Letters and Journals 1940-1947
* Beyond Psychology:Letters and Journals 1934-1939
* The Bioelectrical Investigation of Sexuality and Anxiety
* The Bion Experiments: On the Origins of Life
* Function of the Orgasm (Discovery of the Orgone, Vol.1)
* The Cancer Biopathy (Discovery of the Orgone, Vol.2)
* Character Analysis
* Children of the Future: On the Prevention of Sexual Pathology
* Contact With Space: Oranur Second Report
* Cosmic Superimposition: Man's Orgonotic Roots in Nature
* Early Writings
* Ether, God and Devil
* Genitality in the Theory and Therapy of Neuroses
* The Invasion of Compulsory Sex-Morality
* Listen, Little Man!
* Mass Psychology of Fascism
* The Murder of Christ (Emotional Plague of Mankind, Vol.2)
* The Oranur Experiment
* The Orgone Energy Accumulator, Its Scientific and Medical Use
* Passion of Youth: An Autobiography, 1897-1922
* People in Trouble: Emotional Plague of Mankind, Vol.1)
* Record of a Friendship: The Correspondence of Wilhelm Reich and A.S. Neill (1936-1957)
* Reich Speaks of Freud
* Selected Writings: An Introduction to Orgonomy
* The Sexual Revolution
* The Einstein Affair, 1953

[edit] Further reading

* Albini, Carlo. Creazione & Castigo: La Grande Congiura Contro Wilhelm Reich, Tre Editori, Roma 1998.
* Baker, Elsworth F. Man In The Trap, Macmillan, NY, 1967.
* Bean, Orson. Me And The Orgone, St. Martin's Press, NY, 1971.
* Boadella, David. Wilhelm Reich, The Evolution Of His Work, Henry Regnery, Chicago, 1973.
* Boadella, David. (Ed.): In The Wake Of Reich, Coventure, London, 1976.
* Brady, Mildred Edie. "The Strange Case of Wilhelm Reich," New Republic, May 26, 1947
* ___________________. "The New Cult of Sex and Anarchy," Harper's, April 1947.
* Cantwell, Alan. "Dr. Wilhelm Reich: Scientific Genius or Medical Madman New Dawn Magazine, May-June 2004
* DeMeo, James. The Orgone Accumulator Handbook: Construction Plans, Experimental Use and Protection Against Toxic Energy, Natural Energy Works, Ashland, Oregon 1989.
* DeMeo, James. (Ed.) "On Wilhelm Reich And Orgonomy" (Pulse of the Planet #4), Natural Energy Works, Ashland, Oregon 1993.
* DeMeo, James. "Saharasia: The 4000 BCE Origins of Child-Abuse, Sex-Repression, Warfare and Social Violence, In the Deserts of the Old World", Natural Energy Works, Ashland, Oregon 1998.
* DeMeo, James & Senf, Bernd. (Eds.) Nach Reich: Neue Forschungen zur Orgonomie: Sexualokonomie, Die Entdeckung Der Orgonenergie (After Reich: New Research in Orgonomy: Sex-Economy, Discovery of the Orgone Energy), Zweitausendeins Verlag, Frankfurt, 1998.
* DeMeo, James. (Ed.) "Heretic's Notebook: Emotions, Protocells, Ether-Drift and Cosmic Life Energy, With New Research Supporting Wilhelm Reich", Natural Energy Works, Ashland, Oregon 2002.
* Eden, Jerome. Orgone Energy, The Answer To Atomic Suicide, Exposition, NY, 1972.
* Eden, Jerome. Animal Magnetism And The Life Energy, Exposition, NY, 1974.
* Greenfield, Jerome. Wilhelm Reich Vs. The USA, W.W. Norton, NY, 1974.
* Guillon, Claude. Pour en finir avec Reich, Alternative diffusion, 1978.
* Herskowitz, Morton. Emotional Armoring: An Introduction to Psychiatric Orgone Therapy, Transactions Press, NY 1998.
* Hoppe, Walter. Wilhelm Reich Und Andere Grosse Manner Der Wissenschaft Im Kampf Mit Dem Irrationalismus (Wilhelm Reich and Other Great Men of Science in the Battle Against Irrationalism), Verlag Kurt Nane Jurgensen, Munich, 1985.
* Kendrick, William. "The Analyst as Outsider", a review of Myron Sharaf's Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich, The New York Times, April 3, 1983.
* Laska, Bernd A.: Sigmund Freud contra Wilhelm Reich Auszug aus Laska, Bernd A. Wilhelm Reich. Bildmonographie. Rowohlt, Reinbek 1981, 1999
* Mann, Edward: Orgone. Reich And Eros: Wilhelm Reich's Theory Of The Life Energy, Simon & Schuster, NY, 1973.
* Mann, Edward & Hoffman, Ed. The Man Who Dreamed Of Tomorrow: A Conceptual Biography Of Wilhelm Reich, J.P. Tarcher, 1980.
* Martin, Jim. Wilhelm Reich and the Cold War, Flatland Books, Mendocino, CA, 2000.
* Meyerowitz, Jacob. Before the Beginning of Time, rRp Publishers, Easton, PA 1994.
* Moise, William S. A Taste Of Color, A Touch Of Love, Hancock, Maine, 1970.
* Ollendorff, Ilse. Wilhelm Reich: A Personal Biography, St. Martin's Press, NY, 1969.
* Overly, Richard. Gentle Bio-Energetics: Tools for Everyone, Gentle Bioenergetics Press, Asheville, NC, 1998.
* Raknes, Ola. Wilhelm Reich And Orgonomy, St. Martin's Press, NY, 1970; Penguin, Baltimore, 1970.
* Reich, Peter. A Book Of Dreams, Harper & Row, NY, 1973.
* Ritter, Paul, Ed. Wilhelm Reich Memorial Volume, Ritter Press, Nottingham, England, 1958.
* Senf, Bernd. Die Wiederentdeckung des Lebendigen (The Rediscovery of the Living), Zweitausendeins Verlag, Frankfurt, 1996.
* Wilson, Robert Anton. Wilhelm Reich in Hell, Aires Press, 1998.
* Wyckoff, James. Wilhelm Reich: Life Force Explorer, Fawcett, Greenwich, CT, 1973.
* Los Orgones, Argentinian site of Orgonomy
* Bibliography on Orgonomy, a full listing of scholarly works on Wilhelm Reich
* Orgonon - The Wilhelm Reich Museum
* Aetherometry - The Science of Massfree Energy; encompasses experimental and theoretical crystallization of, and enlargement upon, Reich's work
* Orgone Biophysical Research Laboratory
* On-Line Bibliography on Orgonomy (Includes list of University Theses and Dissertations focused on Reich's work)
* PORE, Public Orgonomic Research Exchange (Includes a Biography (Timeline) of Wilhelm Reich and his Orgonomic Research)
* Reich's FBI File
* Skeptic's Dictionary: orgone energy, Wilhelm Reich
* Response to Martin Gardner's Attack on Reich and Orgone Research in the Skeptical Inquirer
* The American College of Orgonomy
* Scientific Reproduction of Reich's Biophysical Experiments
* A Skeptical Scrutiny of the Works and Theories of Wilhelm Reich
* Wilhelm Reich within the Project LSR ("orgone forgone")
* Marxism and Psychoanalysis: Notes on Wilhelm Reich's life and work
* The Einstein Affair, Orgone Institute Press, 1953
* Reference to Reich-Einstein correspondence in Oregon State University archives
* 2 chapters of Gone Dark by "W.B. Smyth", supposed "document" of the Philadelphia experiment. "50 Years after Albert Einstein: The Failure of the Unified Field", the beginning talks of Reich.
* A description of the experiment with Einstein
* A "rain engineering" service offered by a Singaporean company based on Reich's work.
* Looking at the work of Reich, Naessens, Bechamp, Rife and Enderlein with regard to disease research

The Einstein experiments

* Aspden, H (2001) "Gravity and its thermal anomaly: was the Reich-Einstein experiment evidence of energy inflow from the aether?", Infinite Energy, 41:61.
* Bearden, T (2002) "Energy from the vacuum", Cheniere Press, Santa Barbara, CA, pp. 333-337.
* Brian, Denis. Einstein: A Life, John Wiley & Sons, New York, 1996. ISBN 0-471-11459-6 Reich is discussed on pages 325-327, 382, 399.
* Clark, Ronald W. Einstein: The Life and Times, New York: Avon, 1971, ISBN 0-380-01159-X Reich is on pages 689-90 of the paperback edition.
* Correa, P & Correa, A (1998, 2001) "The thermal anomaly in ORACs and the Reich-Einstein experiment: implications for blackbody theory", Akronos Publishing, Concord, ON, Canada, ABRI monograph AS2-05.
* Correa PN & Correa AN (2001) "The reproducible thermal anomaly of the Reich-Einstein experiment under limit conditions", Infinite Energy, 37:12.
* Mallove, E (2001) "Breaking Through: A Bombshell in Science", Infinite Energy, 37:6.
* Mallove, E (2001) "Breaking Through: Aether Science and Technology", Infinite Energy, 39:6.




The Do-gooders burned his library and works to the ground.
He was ahead of his time.
Check out this link:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/selfheal/reichintro.htm
Reichian Growth Work: Intro


sabrina

1/27/2007 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pentheus, despite all warnings, imprisoned Dionysus, but he, being a God, set himself free when he wished, and having put Pentheus's home on fire,knocked it to the ground.

In the meantime, a messenger reported to the king that marvels were taking place in Mount Cithaeron where the Theban women had been dancing.
For, to begin with, they were not drunk with the goblet, or entranced by the flute, and there was no, as the king used to call it to all who would listen, "hunting of Aphrodite".

But instead there were women, old and young, who were a marvel of orderliness to see, giving milk to gazelles and wolf-pups, for among them there were several, who having abandoned their new-born children, had their breasts swollen.

And they put on garlands of ivy and oak, and in the place where one of them stroke the ground with her thyrsos, which is a staff that is crowned with ivy, there came forth a stream of wine.
And when they scratched the earth with their fingers, they obtained streams of milk, and honey dripped from the thyrsoi.


This is what happened when the MAENADS were left in peace. But when they were ambushed and persecuted by the king's men, they could tear apart whoever came in their way, man or animal. For when the guards escaped their fury, the women sprang on the heifers, and rent asunder the calves, while others tore apart cows and stumbled fierce bulls to the ground. And in the same way, resembling soldiers, they could fall upon towns, turning everything upside down, and snatching the children from their homes. And they could also carry heavy objects on their shoulders without holding them with bounds, and they were seen carrying fire on their locks without being burned. And when those who were thus plundered by the MAENADS opposed them with their arms, they were unable to wound them, for no blood came forth when they were touched by weapons, whereas the MAENADS continuously wounded their enemies by hurling the thyrsoi at them.



On seeing how unarmed women were defeating armed men, some began to understand that such things cannot be achieved without the help of a god, and that is why they exhorted Pentheus 1 to do as follows:

"Receive this god then, whoever he is, into this city, master. For he is great in other respects, and they say this too of him, as I hear, that he gives to mortals the vine that puts an end to grief. Without wine there is no longer Aphrodite or any other pleasant thing for men." [Messenger to Pentheus 1. Euripides, Bacchanals 770]

Freedom will never die a quiet death.
..............................................


Wilhelm Reich was also a student of Sigmond like JUNG also was.
He was demonized and they destroyed him, but his ideas live on.



Wilhelm Reich (March 24, 1897–November 3, 1957) was an Austrian psychiatrist and psychoanalyst. [1]

Reich was a respected analyst for much of his life, focusing on character structure, rather than on individual neurotic symptoms. [2] He was in many ways Ahead of his time in promoting Healthy Adolescent Sexuality, the availability of contraceptives and abortion, and the importance to women of economic independence. [3] His biographer Myron Sharaf writes that Reich's work left a deep impression on influential thinkers such as Alexander Lowen, Fritz Perls, Paul Goodman, Saul Bellow, Norman Mailer, and William Burroughs. [4]

He was also a Controversial figure, particularly in later life, who came to be viewed by the psychoanalytic establishment as having "Gone Astray" [3] or of having succumbed to mental illness. [5] He is best known for his studies on the link between human sexuality and emotions, and the importance of what he called "orgastic potency"; and for what he said was the discovery of a form of energy that permeated the atmosphere and all living matter, which he called "orgone." He built boxes called "orgone accumulators," which patients could sit inside, and which were intended to harness the energy for what he believed were its health benefits. It was this work, in particular, that cemented the rift between Reich and the psychiatric establishment. [3][6][1]

Reich was living in Germany when Adolf Hitler came to power. Labeled a communist Jew by the Nazis, [7] he fled to Scandinavia, before taking refuge in the United States in 1939. But in 1947, following a series of critical articles about orgone in The New Republic and Harper's, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) began an investigation into his claims, and, in 1954, won an injunction prohibiting the interstate sale of orgone accumulators. Two years later, Reich was charged with contempt of court for violating the injunction. He insisted on conducting his own defense, which included sending copies of his books to the judge. In June 1956, he was sentenced to two years in Federal prison; later that year, several tons of his publications were burned by agents of the FDA. [6][1] Reich died behind bars, of heart failure, one year later, just days before he was due to apply for parole. [8]

Reich was born in 1897 to Leon Reich, a prosperous farmer, and Cecilia Roniger, in Dobrzanica, a village near Peremyshliany, Galicia, then part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, now in Ukraine. Three years after his birth, the couple had a second son, Robert.

His father was by all accounts strict, cold, and jealous. He was Jewish, but Reich was later at pains to point out that his father had moved away from Judaism and had not raised his children as Jews; Reich wasn't allowed to play with Yiddish-speaking Jewish children, [9] and as an adult did not want to be described as Jewish. [10]

Shortly after his birth, the family moved south to a farm in Jujinetz, near Chernivtsi, Bukovina, where Reich's father took control of a cattle farm owned by his mother's family. Reich attributed his later interest in the study of sex and the biological basis of the emotions to his upbringing on the farm where, as he later put it, the "natural life functions" were never hidden from him. [11] Reich also spoke of sexual encounters he had had with a maid, where he witnessed intercourse between her and her boyfriend, and apparently later asked if he could "play" the part of the lover. He said that, by the time he was four years old, there were no secrets about sex for him. [9]
“ I had read somewhere that lovers get rid of any intruder, so with wild fantasies in my brain I slipped back to my bed, my joy of life shattered, torn apart in my inmost being for my whole life! — Wilhelm Reich. [12] ”

He was taught at home until he was 12, when his mother committed suicide by drinking a cheap household cleaner after being discovered having an affair with Reich's tutor, who lived with the family. In a report supposedly about a patient, Reich wrote about how deeply the affair had affected him, according to Myron Sharaf. Night after night, he had heard his mother creep to her lover's room, had followed her, and had overheard the couple's lovemaking. He felt ashamed, angry, and jealous; he wondered whether they would kill him if they realized he knew, and briefly had the thought of forcing his mother to have sex with him too, on pain of the father being told of the affair. He wrote that his "joy of life [was] shattered, torn apart from [his] inmost being for the rest of [his] life!" [13]

Torn between the desire to tell his father and the wish to protect his mother from his father's revenge, he later blamed himself for what happened, waking in the night overwhelmed by the idea that he had killed her. Her death was particularly brutal because of the method she chose, which left her in great pain for days before she died. The tutor was sent away, and Reich was left without his mother or his teacher, and with a powerful sense of guilt. [14]

He was sent to the all-male Czernowitz gymnasium, excelling at Latin, Greek, and the natural sciences. It appears to have been during this period that a skin condition developed that plagued Reich for the rest of his life. When it began is unclear, but it was diagnosed as psoriasis, and Sharaf speculates that it may have been triggered by his mother's suicide. Reich was given medication that contained arsenic, now known to make psoriasis worse.

Reich's father was "completely broken" by his wife's suicide. [15] In or around 1914, he took out a life insurance policy then stood for hours in a cold pond, apparently fishing, but in fact intending to commit slow suicide, according to Reich and his brother Robert. [16] He contracted pneumonia and then tuberculosis, and died in 1914 as a result of his illness; despite his insurance policy, no money was forthcoming. [16]

Reich managed the farm and continued with his studies, graduating in 1915 mit Stimmeneinhelligheit (unanimous approval). In the summer of 1915, the Russians invaded Bukovina and the Reich brothers fled to Vienna, losing everything. In his Passion of Youth, Reich wrote: "I never saw either my homeland or my possessions again. Of a well-to-do past, nothing was left."

Studies
Sigmund Freud and Reich met in 1919 when Reich needed literature for a sexology seminar.
Sigmund Freud and Reich met in 1919 when Reich needed literature for a sexology seminar.

Reich joined the Austrian Army after school, serving from 1915-18, for the last two years as a lieutenant.

In 1918, when the war ended, he entered the medical school at the University of Vienna. As an undergraduate, he was drawn to the work of Sigmund Freud; the men first met in 1919 when Reich visited Freud to obtain literature for a seminar on sexology. Freud left a strong impression on Reich. Freud allowed him to start seeing analytic patients as early as late 1919 or early 1920. Reich was accepted as a guest member of the Vienna Psychoanalytic Association in the summer of 1920, and became a regular member in October 1920, at the age of 23. [17]

He was allowed to complete his six-year medical degree in four years because he was a war veteran, and received his M.D. in July 1922. [1]


He worked in internal medicine at University Hospital, Vienna, and studied neuropsychiatry from 1922-24 at the Neurological and Psychiatric Clinic under Professor Wagner-Jauregg, who won the Nobel Prize in medicine in 1927.

In 1922, he set up private practice as a psychoanalyst, and became first clinical assistant, and later vice-director, at Freud's Psychoanalytic Polyclinic. He joined the faculty of the Psychoanalytic Institute in Vienna in 1924, and conducted research into the social causes of neurosis. It was at the Vienna Psychoanalytic Association that Reich met Annie Pink, a fellow analyst-in-training. They married, and had their first daughter, Eva, in 1924 and a second daughter in 1928. The couple separated in 1933, leaving the children with the mother.

Reich developed a theory that the ability to feel sexual love depended on a physical ability to make love with what he called "orgastic potency." He attempted to "measure" the male orgasm, noting that four distinct phases occurred physiologically: first, the psychosexual build-up or tension; second. the tumescence of the penis, with an accompanying "charge," which Reich measured electrically; third, an electrical discharge at the moment of orgasm, and fourth, the relaxation of the penis. He believed the force that he measured was a distinct type of energy present in all life forms and later called it "orgone." [7]

He was a prolific writer for psychoanalytic journals in Europe, and his book Character Analysis brought forth a small revolution [citation needed] in the practice of psychoanalysis itself, and is still used today as a textbook for analytically oriented classes in medical schools. [citation needed] Originally psychoanalysis was focused on the treatment of neurotic symptoms. Character Analysis was a major step in the development of what today would be called ego psychology. In Reich's view a person's entire character (or personality), not only individual symptoms, could be looked at and treated as a neurotic phenomenon. The book also introduced Reich's theory of "body armoring." He argued that unreleased psychosexual energy could produce actual physical blocks within muscles and organs, and that these act as a "body armor," preventing the release of the energy. An orgasm was one way to break through the armor. These ideas developed into a general theory of the importance of a healthy sex life to overall well-being, a theory compatible with Freud's views.

Reich agreed with Freud that sexual development was the origin of mental disorder. They both believed that most psychological states were dictated by unconscious processes; that infant sexuality develops early but is repressed, and that this has important consequences for mental health. At that time a Marxist, Reich argued that the source of sexual repression was bourgeois morality and the socio-economic structures that produced it. As sexual repression was the cause of the neuroses, the best cure would be to have an active, guilt-free sex life. He argued that such a liberation could come about only through a morality not imposed by a repressive economic structure. [18] In 1928, he joined the Austrian Communist Party and founded the Socialist Association for Sexual Counselling and Research, which organized counselling centers for workers—in contrast to Freud, who was perceived as treating only the bourgeoisie.

Reich employed an unusual therapeutic method. He used touch to accompany the talking cure, taking an active role in sessions, feeling his patients' chests to check their breathing, repositioning their bodies, and sometimes requiring them to remove their clothes, so that men were treated wearing shorts and women in bra and panties. These methods caused a split between Reich and the rest of the psychoanalytic community. [7]

In 1930, he moved his practice to Berlin and joined the Communist Party of Germany. His best-known book, The Sexual Revolution, was published at this time in Vienna. Advocating free contraceptives and abortion on demand, he again set up clinics in working-class areas and taught sex education, but became too outspoken even for the communists, and eventually, after his book The Mass Psychology of Fascism was published, he was expelled from the party in 1933.

In this book Reich categorized fascism as a symptom of sexual repression. The book was banned by the Nazis when they came to power. He realized he was in danger and hurriedly left Germany disguised as a tourist on a ski trip to Austria. Reich was expelled from the International Psychological Association in 1934 for political militancy. He spent some years in Denmark, Sweden, and Norway, before leaving for the United States in 1939.

[edit] The bion experiments

From 1934-37, based for most of the period in Oslo, Reich conducted experiments seeking the origins of life. He examined protozoa, which are single-celled creatures with nuclei. He grew cultured vesicles using grass, beach sand, iron, and animal tissue, boiling them, adding potassium and gelatin. Having heated the materials to incandescence with a heat-torch, he noted bright, glowing, blue vesicles, which, he claimed, could be cultured, and which gave off an observable radiant energy, which he called orgone. He named the vesicles "bions" and believed they were a rudimentary form of life, or halfway between life and non-life. When he poured the cooled mixture onto growth media, bacteria were born. Based on various control experiments Reich dismissed the idea that the bacteria were already present in the air, or in the other materials used. Reich's The Bion Experiments on the Origin of Life was published in Oslo in 1938, leading to attacks in the press that he was a "Jew pornographer" who was daring to meddle with the origins of life. [7]



In 1936, in Beyond Psychology, Reich wrote that "[s]ince everything is antithetically arranged, there must be two different types of single-celled organisms: (a) life-destroying organisms or organisms that form through organic decay, (b) life-promoting organisms that form from inorganic material that comes to life."

This idea of spontaneous generation led him to believe he had found the cause of cancer. He called the life-destroying organisms "T-bacilli," with the T standing for Tod, German for death. He described in The Cancer Biopathy how he had found them in a culture of rotting cancerous tissue obtained from a local hospital. He wrote that T-bacilli were formed from the disintegration of protein; they were 0.2 to 0.5 micrometre in length, shaped like lancets, and when injected into mice, they caused inflammation and cancer. He concluded that, when orgone energy diminishes in cells through ageing or injury, the cells undergo "bionous degeneration" or death. At some point, the deadly T-bacilli start to form in the cells. Death from cancer, he believed, was caused by an overwhelming growth of the T-bacilli.

[edit] Orgone accumulators and cloudbusters
Reich built "orgone accumulators" to harness orgone, which he believed was responsible for emotions and sexuality. Wild rumors spread that his "sex boxes" caused uncontrollable erections.
Reich built "orgone accumulators" to harness orgone, which he believed was responsible for emotions and sexuality. Wild rumors spread that his "sex boxes" caused uncontrollable erections.
He designed a "cloudbuster," which he said could manipulate streams of orgone energy to produce rain.
He designed a "cloudbuster," which he said could manipulate streams of orgone energy to produce rain.

In March 1938, Hitler annexed Austria. Reich's ex-wife and daughters had already left for the U.S., and in August 1939, Reich sailed out of Norway on the last boat to leave before the war began. He settled in Forest Hills, Long Island, and in 1946, married Ilse Ollendorf, with whom he had a son, Peter.

It was during this period, according to some researchers, that Reich appeared to suffer a breakdown. They say that he became paranoid and revised parts of his earlier works to remove references to Marxist theory. [1] Reich's defenders say that Reich's revisions were minor, confined only to the English-speaking American period of his work, and were primarily sexological, clinical, or scientific in nature. Reich was one of the first of the European socialists to break ranks completely with the Communist Party; for example, in his book Mass Psychology of Fascism, which he wrote after a trip to Russia, he identified communism as "Red Fascism". His defenders say that the charge of paranoia is intended to discredit Reich's critique of Marxism. American writer Jim Martin alleges that many of those who have attacked Reich's biophysical research—on the orgone accumulator, for example—are themselves leftist and Marxist. [19]

In 1940, Reich built boxes called orgone accumulators to concentrate atmospheric orgone energy; some were for lab animals, and some were large enough for a human being to sit inside. Reich said orgone was the "primordial cosmic energy", blue in color, which he claimed was omnipresent and responsible for such things as weather, the color of the sky, gravity, the formation of galaxies, and the biological expressions of emotion and sexuality. Composed of alternating layers of ferrous metals and insulators with a high dielectric constant, his orgone accumulators had the appearance of a large, hollow capacitor. He believed that sitting inside the box might provide a treatment for cancer and other illnesses. It was the construction of these boxes that caught the attention of the press, leading to wild rumors that they were "sex boxes" which caused uncontrollable erections. [7]

Reich also designed a "cloudbuster" with which he said he could manipulate streams of orgone energy in the atmosphere to induce rain by forcing clouds to form and disperse. Based on experiments with the orgone accumulator, he argued that orgone energy was a negatively-entropic force in nature which was responsible for concentrating and organizing matter. During one drought-relief expedition to Arizona, he claimed to have observed UFOs, as well as at Orgonon, Maine, and speculated that orgone might be used for the propulsion of UFOs. Because Reich and his co-workers claimed to have seen clouds appear with the UFOs, they called it DOR (Deadly Orgone). [citation needed]

According to Reich's theory, illness was primarily caused by depletion or blockages of the orgone energy within the body. He conducted clinical tests of the orgone accumulator on people suffering from a variety of illnesses. The patient would sit within the accumulator and absorb the "concentrated orgone energy". He built smaller, more portable accumulator-blankets of the same layered construction for application to parts of the body. The effects observed were claimed to boost the immune system, even to the point of destroying certain types of tumors, though Reich was hesitant to claim this constituted a "cure." The orgone accumulator was also tested on mice with cancer, and on plant-growth, the results convincing Reich that the benefits of orgone therapy could not be attributed to a placebo effect. He had, he believed, developed a grand unified theory of physical and mental health. [20]

[edit] Orgone experiment with Einstein
Reich discussed orgone accumulators with Albert Einstein in 1941.
Reich discussed orgone accumulators with Albert Einstein in 1941.

On December 30, 1940, Reich wrote to Albert Einstein saying he had a scientific discovery he wanted to discuss, and on January 13, 1941 went to visit Einstein in Princeton. They talked for five hours, [21] and Einstein agreed to test an orgone accumulator, which Reich had constructed out of a Faraday cage made of galvanized steel and insulated by wood and paper on the outside. Einstein agreed that if, as Reich suggested, an object's temperature could be raised without an apparent heating source, it would be "a bomb" in physics. [22] This heating effect would be an amazing result since it would allow the construction of a perpetual motion machine, [23] which would violate the laws of thermodynamics.[24]

Reich supplied Einstein with a small accumulator during their second meeting, and Einstein performed the experiment in his basement, which involved taking the temperature atop, inside, and near the device. He also stripped the device down to its Faraday cage to compare temperatures. Over the course of a week, in both cases, Einstein observed a rise in temperature, and confirmed Reich's finding. [25] Reich concluded that the heat was the result of a novel form of energy—orgone energy—that had accumulated inside the Faraday cage. However, one of Einstein's colleagues at Princeton interpreted the phenomenon as resulting from thermal convection currents. Einstein concurred that the experiment could be explained by convection. [25]

Reich responded with a 25-page letter to Einstein, expressing concern that "convection from the ceiling" would join "air germs" and "Brownian movement" to explain away new findings, according to Reich's biographer, Myron Sharaf. Sharaf writes that Einstein conducted some more experiments, but then regarded the matter as "completely solved." [25]

The correspondence between Reich and Einstein was published by Reich's press as The Einstein Affair in 1953, possibly without Einstein's permission. [26]

[edit] Controversy

[edit] The Brady article and the FDA

Reich was investigated by the FBI when he arrived in the U.S. because he was an immigrant with a communist background. The FBI released 789 pages of its files on Reich in 2000; a State Department press release stated:

This German immigrant described himself as the Associate Professor of Medical Psychology, Director of the Orgone Institute, President and research physician of the Wilhelm Reich Foundation and discoverer of biological or life energy. A 1940 security investigation was begun to determine the extent of Reich's communist commitments. A board of Alien Enemy Hearing judged that Dr. Reich was not a threat to the security of the U.S. In 1947, a security investigation concluded that neither the Orgone Project nor any of its staff were engaged in subversive activities or were in violation of any statute within the jurisdiction of the FBI. [27]

Myron Sharaf writes that Reich's life in America was relatively peaceful until 1947. There were a few of what Sharaf calls snide articles, and rumors about Reich's sanity, but no organized opposition. Then on May 26, 1947, an article appeared in The New Republic entitled "The Strange Case of Wilhelm Reich" by freelance writer Mildred Edie Brady. The subhead was "The man who blames both neuroses and cancer on unsatisfactory sexual activities has been repudiated by only one scientific journal." [28]

Sharaf writes that the article consisted of combined truths, half-truths, and lies. Brady wrote:

Orgone, named after the sexual orgasm, is, according to Reich, a cosmic energy. It is, in fact, the cosmic energy. Reich has not only discovered it; he has seen it, demonstrated it and named a town — Orgonon, Maine — after it. Here he builds accumulators of it which are rented out to patients, who presumably derive 'orgastic potency' from it. [28]

Sharaf writes that the implication was clear: the accumulators gave orgastic potency, the lack of which causes cancer. Therefore, the claim for the accumulators was that they cured cancer. Brady argued that the "growing Reich cult" had to be dealt with. [29]

Two months later, on July 23, Dr. J.J. Durrett, director of the Medical Advisory Division of the Federal Trade Commission, wrote to the FDA asking them to look into Reich's claims about the health benefits of orgone. [30] The FDA assigned an investigator named Wood to the case, who learned that Reich had built 250 accumulators; the FDA concluded that they were dealing with a "fraud of the first magnitude." [31] Sharaf writes that the FDA suspected a "sexual racket" of some kind; questions were asked about the women associated with orgonomy and "what was done with them." [32]
“ I would like to plead for my right to investigate natural phenomena without having guns pointed at me. I also ask for the right to be wrong without being hanged for it. — Wilhelm Reich. [33] ”

In November, Reich wrote in Conspiracy. An Emotional Chain Reaction: "I would like to plead for my right to investigate natural phenomena without having guns pointed at me. I also ask for the right to be wrong without being hanged for it ... I am angry because smearing can do anything and truth can do so little to prevail, as it seems at the moment." [34] Sharaf writes that Reich came to believe that Mildred Brady was a Stalinist acting under orders from the Communist Party, a "communist sniper," as Reich called her. [35][36]

On February 10, 1954, the U.S. Attorney for Maine, acting on behalf of the FDA, filed a complaint seeking a permanent injunction under Sections 301 and 302 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, to prevent interstate shipment of orgone-therapy equipment and literature. [2] Reich refused to appear in court, apparently believing that no court was in a position to evaluate his work. In his cover letter for the response he submitted to the court, he wrote to Judge Clifford:

My factual position in the case as well as in the world of science of today does not permit me to enter the case against the Food and Drug Administration, since such action would, in my mind, imply admission of the authority of this special branch of the government to pass judgment on primordial, pre-atomic cosmic orgone energy.

I, therefore, rest the case in full confidence in your hands.[37]

Because of Reich's failure to appear, Judge Clifford granted the injunction on March 19, 1954. [3] His ruling ordered that all written materials that mentioned "orgone energy" — including papers and pamphlets, and ten of Reich's books — were to be destroyed. It further stated that additional copies of his books, including revised classics like The Mass Psychology of Fascism, could not be published unless all references to "orgone energy" were deleted.

[edit] Imprisonment and death

In May 1956, Reich was arrested for technical violation of the injunction when an associate moved some orgone-therapy equipment across a state line, and Reich was charged with contempt of court. Once again, he refused to arrange a legal defense. He was brought in chains to the courthouse in Portland, Maine. Representing himself, he admitted to having violated the injunction and arranged for the judge to be sent copies of his books. He was sentenced to two years' imprisonment.

Dr. Morton Herskowitz, a fellow psychiatrist and friend of Reich's wrote of the trial: "Because he viewed himself as a historical figure, he was making a historical point, and to make that point he had conducted the trial that way. If I had been in his shoes, I would have wanted to escape jail, I would have wanted to be free, etc. I would have conducted the trial on a strictly legal basis because the lawyers had said, 'We can win this case for you. Their case is so weak, so when you let us do our thing we can get you off.' But he wouldn't do it." [4]

On June 5, 1956, FDA officials traveled to Orgonon, Reich's 200-acre (80-hectare) estate near Rangeley, Maine, where they destroyed the accumulators, and on June 26, burned many of his books. On August 25, 1956 and again on March 17, 1960, [5] the remaining six tons of his books, journals and papers were burned in the 25th Street public incinerator in New York's lower east side (Gansevoort incinerator). In March 1957, he was sent to Danbury Federal Prison, where a psychiatrist examined him, recording: "Paranoia manifested by delusions of grandiosity and persecution and ideas of reference." [6]

Reich died in his sleep of heart failure on November 3, 1957 in the federal penitentiary in Lewisburg, Pennsylvania, shortly before he was due to apply for parole. Not one psychiatric or established scientific journal carried an obituary. Time Magazine noted on November 18, 1957:

Died. Wilhelm Reich, 60, once-famed psychoanalyst, associate, and follower of Sigmund Freud, founder of the Wilhelm Reich Foundation, lately better known for unorthodox sex and energy theories; of a heart attack in Lewisburg Federal Penitentiary, Pa; where he was serving a two-year term for distributing his invention, the "orgone energy accumulator" (in violation of the Food and Drug Act), a telephone-booth-size device which supposedly gathered energy from the atmosphere, and could cure, while the patient sat inside, common colds, cancer and impotence. [6]

Reich was buried in Orgonon. At his own instruction, his granite headstone said simply:
Wilhelm Reich
Born March 24, 1897
Died November 3, 1957



New research journals devoted to Reich's work began to appear in the 1960s. Physicians and natural scientists with an interest in Reich organized small study groups and institutes, and new research efforts were undertaken. James DeMeo of the Orgone Biophysical Research Laboratory undertook research at the University of Kansas into Reich's atmospheric theories. [38] A later study by DeMeo subjected Reich's sex-economic theory to cross-cultural evaluations. [39]

Reich's orgone research has not found an open reception, and the mainstream scientific community remains hostile to his ideas. There is some use of orgone accumulator therapy by psychotherapists in Europe, particularly in Germany. [citation needed] A double-blind, controlled study of the psychological and physical effects of the orgone accumulator was carried out by Stefan Mueschenich and Rainer Gebauer at the University of Marburg, [40] and appeared to validate some of Reich's claims. [citation needed] The study was later reproduced by Günter Hebenstreit at the University of Vienna. [citation needed] William Steig, Norman Mailer, William S. Burroughs, and Orson Bean have all undergone Reich's orgone therapy.

His influence is felt in modern psychotherapy. He was a pioneer of body psychotherapy and several emotions-based psychotherapies, influencing Fritz Perls' Gestalt therapy and Arthur Janov's primal therapy. See also Neo-Reichian massage. His pupil Alexander Lowen, the founder of bioenergetic analysis, Charles Kelley, the founder of Radix therapy, and James DeMeo ensure that his research receives widespread attention. Many practising psychoanalysts give credence to his theory of character, and his book Character Analysis is still used as a textbook. The American College of Orgonomy, [41] originally led by Elsworth Baker, and the Institute for Orgonomic Science, [42] led by Dr. Morton Herskowitz, still use Reich's original therapeutic methods.

Nearly all Reich's publications have been reprinted, apart from his research journals which are available as photocopies from the Wilhelm Reich Museum. The first editions are not available: Reich continuously amended his books throughout his life, and the owners of Reich's intellectual property actively forbid anything other than the latest revised versions to be reprinted. In the late 1960s, Farrar, Straus & Giroux republished Reich's major works. Reich's earlier books, particularly The Mass Psychology of Fascism, are regarded as historically valuable. [43]

[edit] Reich in popular culture

Reich's life and work continue to influence popular culture, with references to orgone and cloudbusting found in songs by Clutch, Hawkwind, Pop Will Eat Itself, Turbonegro and Patti Smith. Kate Bush's song "Cloudbusting" and video describe Reich's arrest and incarceration through the eyes of Reich's son, Peter, who wrote his father's story in A Book of Dreams, published in 1973. Frank Zappa was also influenced by Reich's work. The philosopher and science fiction author Robert Anton Wilson wrote a play, Wilhelm Reich in Hell, based on his life. A film about Reich's teachings called W.R.: Mysteries of the Organism was made in 1971 by Yugoslavian director Dusan Makavejev. Reich appeared in 2000 as the superhero "Orgone Lad", a member of the League of Infinity in Supreme by Alan Moore. Quotes from Wilhelm Reich adorn the liner notes to Generic, an album by the San Francisco punk group Flipper.

[edit] Notes

1. ^ a b c d Biography, The Wilhelm Reich Museum, retrieved August 14, 2006.
2. ^ "Wilhelm Reich," Encyclopaedia Britannica.
3. ^ a b c Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 4.
4. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 5.
5. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 8.
6. ^ a b c Obituary notice for Wilhelm Reich, Time Magazine, November 18, 1957.
7. ^ a b c d e Cantwell, Alan. "Dr. Wilhelm Reich: Scientific Genuis or Medical Madman?", New Dawn Magazine, retrieved August 14, 2006.
8. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 477.
9. ^ a b Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 39.
10. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 463.
11. ^ Reich, Wilhelm. "Background and scientific development of Wilhelm Reich," Orgone Energy Bulletin V, 1953, p. 6, cited in Sharaf 1994, p. 40 and p. 488, footnote 10.
12. ^ Reich, Wilhelm. "Ueber einen Fall von Durchbruch der Inzestschranke in der Pubertät," Zeitschrift für Sexualwissenschaft, VII, 1920, 222-223, cited in and translated by Sharaf 1994, p. 43 and p. 448, footnote 12.
13. ^ Reich, Wilhelm. "Ueber einen Fall von Durchbruch der Inzestschranke in der Pubertät," Zeitschrift für Sexualwissenschaft, VII, 1920, 222-223, cited in and translated by Sharaf 1994, p. 43 and p. 448, footnote 12.
14. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 42-46.
15. ^ Reich, Wilhelm. "Ueber einen Fall von Durchbruch der Inzestschranke in der Pubertät," op cit, cited in Sharaf 1994, p. 47 and p. 489, footnote 21.
16. ^ a b Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 48.
17. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 58.
18. ^ D'Aloia, Alessandro. "Marxism and Psychoanalysis: Notes on Wilhelm Reich’s Life and Works", Marxist.com, retrieved August 14, 2006.
19. ^ Martin, Jim. Wilhelm Reich and the Cold War, Flatland Books, Mendocino, CA, 2000.
20. ^ Klee, Gerald D. "What ever happened to orgone therapy?", The Maryland Psychiatric Society, Summer 2001; Vol. 28, No. 1; Pg 13-15, retrieved August 14, 2006.
21. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. De Capo Press, 1994, p. 285.
22. ^ Brian, Denis. 1996. Einstein: A Life, John Wiley & Sons, New York, p.326.
23. ^ "Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) About New Energy Science and Technology", New Energy Foundation, Inc., 2003, retrieved August 14, 2006.
24. ^ Perpetual Motion Machines at The British Columbia Institute of Technology
25. ^ a b c Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. De Capo Press, 1994, p. 286.
26. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. De Capo Press, 1994, p. 288.
27. ^ "FBI adds new subjects to electronic reading room", U.S. State Department, March 2, 2000.
28. ^ a b Brady, Mildred. "The Strange case of Wilhelm Reich," The New Republic, May 26, 1947 cited in Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 360.
29. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 361.
30. ^ FDA file on Reich, cited in Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 363 and footnote 6, p. 513.
31. ^ FDA file on Reich, cited in Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 364 and footnote 11, p. 513.
32. ^ Greenfield, Jerome. Wilhelm Reich Vs. the U.S.A.. W.W. Norton, 1974, p. 69, cited in Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 364 and footnote 13, p. 513.
33. ^ Reich, Wilhelm. Conspiracy. An Emotional Chain Reaction, item 386A, cited in Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 367 and footnote 14, p. 513.
34. ^ Reich, Wilhelm. Conspiracy. An Emotional Chain Reaction, item 386A, cited in Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 367 and footnote 14, p. 513.
35. ^ Sharaf, Myron. Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich. Da Capo Press, 1994, p. 367.
36. ^ Jim Martin writes that Michael Straight, a former member of the Cambridge Apostles and friend of some of those involved in the Soviet-Cambridge spy ring, was the publisher of the Brady articles, and that the attack on Reich may have been prompted by Reich's turning his back on Marxism. (Martin, Jim. Wilhelm Reich and the Cold War, Flatland Books, Mendocino, CA, 2000.)
37. ^ "Wilhelm Reich's Response to FDA's Complaint for Injunction", February 25, 1954, posted on orgone.org.
38. ^ DeMeo, James. "Preliminary Analysis of Changes in Kansas Weather Coincidental to Experimental Operations with a Reich Cloudbuster," KU Geography-Meteorology Dept, 1979.
39. ^ DeMeo, James. "On the Origins and Diffusion of Patrism: The Saharasian Connection" , lated included in "Saharasia: The 4000 BCE Origins of Child-Abuse, Sex-Repression, Warfare and Social Violence, In the Deserts of the Old World", Natural Energy 1998.
40. ^ Mueschenich, Stefan & Gebauer, Rainer "Psycho-Physiological Effects of the Reich Orgone Accumulator," University of Marburg.
41. ^ The American College of Orgonomy
42. ^ Institute for Orgonomic Science
43. ^ A good overview of Reich's work is Wilhelm Reich: The evolution of his work by David Boadella. A [bibliography on orgonomy gives full citations to university dissertations, and to controlled experiments replicating Reich's work on bions, the orgone accumulator, and the cloudbuster.



German-language books

* Der triebhafte Charakter : Eine psychoanalytische Studie zur Pathologie des Ich, 1925
* Die Funktion des Orgasmus : Zur Psychopathologie und zur Soziologie des Geschlechtslebens, 1927
* Dialektischer Materialismus und Psychoanalyse, 1929
* Geschlechtsreife, Enthaltsamkeit, Ehemoral : Eine Kritik der bürgerlichen Sexualreform, 1930
* Der Einbruch der Sexualmoral : Zur Geschichte der sexuellen Ökonomie, 1932
* Charakteranalyse : Technik und Grundlagen für studierende und praktizierende Analytiker, 1933
* Massenpsychologie des Faschismus, 1933 (original Marxist edition, banned by the Nazis and the Communists)
* Was ist Klassenbewußtsein? : Über die Neuformierung der Arbeiterbewegung, 1934
* Psychischer Kontakt und vegetative Strömung, 1935
* Die Sexualität im Kulturkampf : Zur sozialistischen Umstrukturierung des Menschen, 1936
* Die Bione : Zur Entstehung des vegetativen Lebens, 1938

English-language books

* American Odyssey:Letters and Journals 1940-1947
* Beyond Psychology:Letters and Journals 1934-1939
* The Bioelectrical Investigation of Sexuality and Anxiety
* The Bion Experiments: On the Origins of Life
* Function of the Orgasm (Discovery of the Orgone, Vol.1)
* The Cancer Biopathy (Discovery of the Orgone, Vol.2)
* Character Analysis
* Children of the Future: On the Prevention of Sexual Pathology
* Contact With Space: Oranur Second Report
* Cosmic Superimposition: Man's Orgonotic Roots in Nature
* Early Writings
* Ether, God and Devil
* Genitality in the Theory and Therapy of Neuroses
* The Invasion of Compulsory Sex-Morality
* Listen, Little Man!
* Mass Psychology of Fascism
* The Murder of Christ (Emotional Plague of Mankind, Vol.2)
* The Oranur Experiment
* The Orgone Energy Accumulator, Its Scientific and Medical Use
* Passion of Youth: An Autobiography, 1897-1922
* People in Trouble: Emotional Plague of Mankind, Vol.1)
* Record of a Friendship: The Correspondence of Wilhelm Reich and A.S. Neill (1936-1957)
* Reich Speaks of Freud
* Selected Writings: An Introduction to Orgonomy
* The Sexual Revolution
* The Einstein Affair, 1953

[edit] Further reading

* Albini, Carlo. Creazione & Castigo: La Grande Congiura Contro Wilhelm Reich, Tre Editori, Roma 1998.
* Baker, Elsworth F. Man In The Trap, Macmillan, NY, 1967.
* Bean, Orson. Me And The Orgone, St. Martin's Press, NY, 1971.
* Boadella, David. Wilhelm Reich, The Evolution Of His Work, Henry Regnery, Chicago, 1973.
* Boadella, David. (Ed.): In The Wake Of Reich, Coventure, London, 1976.
* Brady, Mildred Edie. "The Strange Case of Wilhelm Reich," New Republic, May 26, 1947
* ___________________. "The New Cult of Sex and Anarchy," Harper's, April 1947.
* Cantwell, Alan. "Dr. Wilhelm Reich: Scientific Genius or Medical Madman New Dawn Magazine, May-June 2004
* DeMeo, James. The Orgone Accumulator Handbook: Construction Plans, Experimental Use and Protection Against Toxic Energy, Natural Energy Works, Ashland, Oregon 1989.
* DeMeo, James. (Ed.) "On Wilhelm Reich And Orgonomy" (Pulse of the Planet #4), Natural Energy Works, Ashland, Oregon 1993.
* DeMeo, James. "Saharasia: The 4000 BCE Origins of Child-Abuse, Sex-Repression, Warfare and Social Violence, In the Deserts of the Old World", Natural Energy Works, Ashland, Oregon 1998.
* DeMeo, James & Senf, Bernd. (Eds.) Nach Reich: Neue Forschungen zur Orgonomie: Sexualokonomie, Die Entdeckung Der Orgonenergie (After Reich: New Research in Orgonomy: Sex-Economy, Discovery of the Orgone Energy), Zweitausendeins Verlag, Frankfurt, 1998.
* DeMeo, James. (Ed.) "Heretic's Notebook: Emotions, Protocells, Ether-Drift and Cosmic Life Energy, With New Research Supporting Wilhelm Reich", Natural Energy Works, Ashland, Oregon 2002.
* Eden, Jerome. Orgone Energy, The Answer To Atomic Suicide, Exposition, NY, 1972.
* Eden, Jerome. Animal Magnetism And The Life Energy, Exposition, NY, 1974.
* Greenfield, Jerome. Wilhelm Reich Vs. The USA, W.W. Norton, NY, 1974.
* Guillon, Claude. Pour en finir avec Reich, Alternative diffusion, 1978.
* Herskowitz, Morton. Emotional Armoring: An Introduction to Psychiatric Orgone Therapy, Transactions Press, NY 1998.
* Hoppe, Walter. Wilhelm Reich Und Andere Grosse Manner Der Wissenschaft Im Kampf Mit Dem Irrationalismus (Wilhelm Reich and Other Great Men of Science in the Battle Against Irrationalism), Verlag Kurt Nane Jurgensen, Munich, 1985.
* Kendrick, William. "The Analyst as Outsider", a review of Myron Sharaf's Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich, The New York Times, April 3, 1983.
* Laska, Bernd A.: Sigmund Freud contra Wilhelm Reich Auszug aus Laska, Bernd A. Wilhelm Reich. Bildmonographie. Rowohlt, Reinbek 1981, 1999
* Mann, Edward: Orgone. Reich And Eros: Wilhelm Reich's Theory Of The Life Energy, Simon & Schuster, NY, 1973.
* Mann, Edward & Hoffman, Ed. The Man Who Dreamed Of Tomorrow: A Conceptual Biography Of Wilhelm Reich, J.P. Tarcher, 1980.
* Martin, Jim. Wilhelm Reich and the Cold War, Flatland Books, Mendocino, CA, 2000.
* Meyerowitz, Jacob. Before the Beginning of Time, rRp Publishers, Easton, PA 1994.
* Moise, William S. A Taste Of Color, A Touch Of Love, Hancock, Maine, 1970.
* Ollendorff, Ilse. Wilhelm Reich: A Personal Biography, St. Martin's Press, NY, 1969.
* Overly, Richard. Gentle Bio-Energetics: Tools for Everyone, Gentle Bioenergetics Press, Asheville, NC, 1998.
* Raknes, Ola. Wilhelm Reich And Orgonomy, St. Martin's Press, NY, 1970; Penguin, Baltimore, 1970.
* Reich, Peter. A Book Of Dreams, Harper & Row, NY, 1973.
* Ritter, Paul, Ed. Wilhelm Reich Memorial Volume, Ritter Press, Nottingham, England, 1958.
* Senf, Bernd. Die Wiederentdeckung des Lebendigen (The Rediscovery of the Living), Zweitausendeins Verlag, Frankfurt, 1996.
* Wilson, Robert Anton. Wilhelm Reich in Hell, Aires Press, 1998.
* Wyckoff, James. Wilhelm Reich: Life Force Explorer, Fawcett, Greenwich, CT, 1973.
* Los Orgones, Argentinian site of Orgonomy
* Bibliography on Orgonomy, a full listing of scholarly works on Wilhelm Reich
* Orgonon - The Wilhelm Reich Museum
* Aetherometry - The Science of Massfree Energy; encompasses experimental and theoretical crystallization of, and enlargement upon, Reich's work
* Orgone Biophysical Research Laboratory
* On-Line Bibliography on Orgonomy (Includes list of University Theses and Dissertations focused on Reich's work)
* PORE, Public Orgonomic Research Exchange (Includes a Biography (Timeline) of Wilhelm Reich and his Orgonomic Research)
* Reich's FBI File
* Skeptic's Dictionary: orgone energy, Wilhelm Reich
* Response to Martin Gardner's Attack on Reich and Orgone Research in the Skeptical Inquirer
* The American College of Orgonomy
* Scientific Reproduction of Reich's Biophysical Experiments
* A Skeptical Scrutiny of the Works and Theories of Wilhelm Reich
* Wilhelm Reich within the Project LSR ("orgone forgone")
* Marxism and Psychoanalysis: Notes on Wilhelm Reich's life and work
* The Einstein Affair, Orgone Institute Press, 1953
* Reference to Reich-Einstein correspondence in Oregon State University archives
* 2 chapters of Gone Dark by "W.B. Smyth", supposed "document" of the Philadelphia experiment. "50 Years after Albert Einstein: The Failure of the Unified Field", the beginning talks of Reich.
* A description of the experiment with Einstein
* A "rain engineering" service offered by a Singaporean company based on Reich's work.
* Looking at the work of Reich, Naessens, Bechamp, Rife and Enderlein with regard to disease research

The Einstein experiments

* Aspden, H (2001) "Gravity and its thermal anomaly: was the Reich-Einstein experiment evidence of energy inflow from the aether?", Infinite Energy, 41:61.
* Bearden, T (2002) "Energy from the vacuum", Cheniere Press, Santa Barbara, CA, pp. 333-337.
* Brian, Denis. Einstein: A Life, John Wiley & Sons, New York, 1996. ISBN 0-471-11459-6 Reich is discussed on pages 325-327, 382, 399.
* Clark, Ronald W. Einstein: The Life and Times, New York: Avon, 1971, ISBN 0-380-01159-X Reich is on pages 689-90 of the paperback edition.
* Correa, P & Correa, A (1998, 2001) "The thermal anomaly in ORACs and the Reich-Einstein experiment: implications for blackbody theory", Akronos Publishing, Concord, ON, Canada, ABRI monograph AS2-05.
* Correa PN & Correa AN (2001) "The reproducible thermal anomaly of the Reich-Einstein experiment under limit conditions", Infinite Energy, 37:12.
* Mallove, E (2001) "Breaking Through: A Bombshell in Science", Infinite Energy, 37:6.
* Mallove, E (2001) "Breaking Through: Aether Science and Technology", Infinite Energy, 39:6.




The Do-Gooders burned his library and works to the ground.
He was way ahead of his time.
Check out this link:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/selfheal/reichintro.htm
Reichian Growth Work: Intro


sabrina

1/27/2007 09:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reich agreed with Freud that sexual development was the origin of mental disorder.

They both believed that most psychological states were dictated by unconscious processes; that infant sexuality develops early but is repressed, and that this has important consequences for mental health.

At that time a Marxist, Reich argued that the source of sexual repression was bourgeois morality and the socio-economic structures that produced it.

As sexual repression was the cause of the neuroses, the best cure would be to have an
ACTIVE,GUILT FREE SEX LIFE.

He argued that such a liberation could come about only through a morality not imposed by a repressive economic structure.

He was an ENEMY OF THE STATUS QUO at this point
for saying such a thing, in a sexually repressed world.

sabrina

1/27/2007 09:51:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Rapacious sexuality seemed to mess Reich up a bit, didn't it Sabrina. At least he produced something positive from it. (Character Analysis).

Your attempt to tie his work (or any adventurous work) to your hateful framework does it no favor. But then again, perhaps that is not your intent; (to give it favor).

1/27/2007 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Barney Fife said...

iridescent cuttlefish said...

The last thread has sort devolved into into an I intercourse, therefore I am sort of "thinking," so I'll pose my question here instead. Would any of you rigorheads care to help me out with a bit of an impasse I've encountered with this project I'm working on? The question is this: If there is more to life, some grander purpose, destiny or endeavor than worshipping one's genitalia (as seems to have been suggested in that last thread and maybe even in the wider culture as well), would anyone care to speculate on how the impulse to love one's neighbor (no, not like that!) could be implemented as the basis for human social interactions? I mean, barn-raising is all fine and good, but what would you do with bankers in such a system, much less politicians or any of the other self-serving professions which seem to direct the lesser lemmings?

Forgive them.

1/27/2007 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hail Satan
No Sounder, our intention is to teach and learn while here on this planet earth.

The occult explosion began a long time ago!!!!

We do believe in Satan as our Lord and Creator!!!!!



With so many the spell of xtianity is so strong they will not even acknowledge anything that is against their beliefs.We need you NOT!!!
We reject the church & xtianity, the whore and her protestant sisters.



As we said before all the cards are on the table, if you suffer from cognitive dissonance that is a problem you'll have to deal with.

As for Reich this is what we gleaned.

Reich and sex hahaha.You must stop all this negativity about sex, what is wrong with our bodies?

Nothing.

You missed our point.Though it does have to doe with the life force.

Sexual Orgasm is equivalent in power to the Life Force. Using sexual orgasm in ritual and in your magickal workings can give much added power to your outcome. Sex Magick is ancient, extremely powerful and is the creative principle.

At the moment of orgasm, one automatically enters a brief trance state. The powerful orgasmic energy can be directed. This is visualized as a brilliant bright light like the sun and can be directed into thoughtforms, the one of one's desires, talismans and so forth.

Women and men both differ in sexual energy. Women tend to peak in power according to cycles. Women are at the height of their power during menstruation. Psychic work, astral projection and other pursuits that require heightened sensitivity are greatly assisted after a strong orgasm. Orgasm is also an excellent way to induce relaxation before meditation.

Sexual fluids, both semen and vaginal secretions, and also menstrual blood have the power of the life force.


* At the moment of orgasm, it is important to direct your entire concentration and desire to your goal, willing it. Visualize the orgasmic energy in the form of a beam, ball or vortex, penetrating the object/person, lighting it up with a brilliant aura of energy that is programmed.

Sex magick can be done alone, or with a partner or Demon/ess or in a group. When working with others, it is very important as in all magickal practices that everyone work together with some sort of organized effort.


1. Lie down and begin by stimulating yourself to orgasm. Right at the point of the impending climax, visualize a fiery brilliant bright light at your perineum (the area between your rectum and testicles for men; or between the rectum and vagina for women).

2. Inhale and direct the energy from the orgasm while you are climaxing, up your spine. You should visualize this as a bright white-gold light. Draw the energy up your spine to the crown chakra where it lights it up and empowers it, emerging from the top of your head and into your eighth gold chakra. Brighten your eighth gold chakra.

3. Expand your eighth chakra into a ball approximately two feet in diameter
(60 cm).

4. Exhale and expand the energy from your eighth chakra and then direct it to descend down each side of your body, down through the bottoms of your feet and back up to your base chakra where you inhale it again.

5. Inhale and draw it in again at the base chakra, lighting it up and empowering it upon entering and then visualize it ascending your spine again and repeat the above steps 2-5. With each circulation, you can expand your aura with the energy.

The orgasm gets the energy going and you can keep circulating it for as long as you wish.

Always direct the energy up out your crown. The above pathway is the normal pathway for energy surrounding the aura.

.......................


BELOW is from the link i gave on REICH:




Life has energy.

Or rather, life is energy: moving, vibrating, seeking, pulsing. We may not be able to define life energy, but we all experience it in our own beings, and perceive it in other people: watching a fine dancer or mime or Tai Chi exponent, making love, meditating, expressing strong emotion, receiving or giving hand healing. Many people over the ages have given names to the life energy and its different forms - 'prana'. 'magnetic fluid', 'vital essence', 'chi', 'od', 'archeus', 'kundalini', and many more. Reich's name for it was Orgone, which he made up from words like 'orgasm' and 'organism'.

This life energy is the vitality of our being: when we are moved, this is what moves. Emotions are e-motions, movements out; they are not just in our minds, but in our bodies, in the charge of energy that builds up and. with luck, discharges; in the flooding of hormones, the surge of bodily fluids and electrical potential, expanding from deep within us towards the surface, or retreating into the caves of the abdomen, or flowing through and out via head and hands and legs and pelvis, shifting form easily between muscular or electrical tension, fluid, sound, movement sensation, emotion.

..........


So ,that was our point you missed.
Anyway you and the other putz's are nobody, and when you DO get sparks of intellect it is not unlike when Beavis and Butthead got a dimwit idea.
The 5 watt bulb says it all.


Now what Reich and the Ancients knew was that when you get an orgasm your chakras get cleaned/reset.

Chakras must be tuned and cleaned to stay healthy spiritually and physically there are intricately linked.

but that is ok, others do.

Wilhelm Reich's machine tuned the chakras, like i wrote before about on the EGYPTIANS......

There are seven primary chakras and many minor ones. The hook and the flail were tuning tools for the primary chakras along the spine. A mural on a wall at Abu Simbel depicts Horus holding a rod to the back of Osiris' head, at the point that is the primary doorway to the eighth chakra (above the crown of the head). The hook is moved up and down the rod to tune the chakra. Osiris is standing with an erection. Sexual energy is a paramount component in the rite of resurrection and immortality. Kundalini is sexual; the life force. Sexual energy is that of the life force, as it has the power to create life through another human being. The sexual energy runs up and down the spine during the tuning process. The Egyptian Ankh symbolizes eternal life and eternal life is linked to the breath. The Ankh is also linked to sexual energy.


learn more here the East is so far ahead.
http://www.kheper.net/topics/chakras/chakras.htm
The Chakras


Most people have not empowered their third eye, crown chakra and other psychic centers to see and experience the astral realm and the beings that dwell therein. There is much we do not experience through our five senses that directly influences our lives and the world around us.

We see right through you, reading minds is easy.
We know also others are learning so we will perservere.

Sex is very beautiful and sacred to us.
We feel that two orgasms a day keep us physically and spiritually balanced.

Ave Satanas

Sabrina&Freyja

1/27/2007 01:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reich was so stupid his ideas resurfaced at MONTAUK

1/27/2007 01:56:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Morning Gentlefolk,

"Debating" the big issues still, eh? Well, here's what strikes me about the tone of this conversation: what's with all the certainty? At Rigorous Intuition? At some more concrete bunker, yeah okay, they take their reality very seriously, being altogether insecure about about their place in it--hence the bombast--but here? How many of these voices have declared, "This is the truth, and you who disagree are morons, junior high school kids, etc, etc." Stunning, absolutely stunning. Wisdom, grace, mental agility--all the things I've come to expect here.

Fact is, none of us knows anything about these big questions. Squat. We have clues, we have theories, we have a our clever intuitions, but not much else. So theorize on, fellow seekers, but please refrain from all that authoritarian posturing, 'cuz y'all look pretty damned stupid when you play philosophical Napolean.

The only touch of modesty I saw was in the long RAW interview, in which this important truth was couched:

I find the universe so staggering that I just don't have any faith in my ability to grasp it. I don't think the human stomach can eat everything, and I'm not quite sure my mind can understand everything, so I don't pretend that it can.

We could use just a bit more of that around here. Here's some more pearlish wisdom, by way of Hawkwind (whose Orgone Accumulator video was mysteriously taken down from GooTube recently):


(from Assault and Battery and The Golden Void):


Lives of great men all remind us we may make our lives sublime
And departing leave behind us footprints in the sands of time
Of hewn stones the sacred circle where the wizened sages sat
Let us try to remember all the times where they were at.
So your thoughts they were expecting assault and battery on the human anatomy
Assault and battery on the human anatomy man



The golden void speaks to me denying my reality
I lose my body, lose my mind, I blow like wind, flow like wine
Down a corridor of flame, will I fly so high again
Is there something wrong with me, I cannot hear, I cannot see
Down a corridor of flame



So you think the time is past, the life you lead will always last
Chaotic fusions of your soul, down below that rocky knowle
Through the clouds an open sky, the wind flows through your watering eyes
The sounds are pitched to draw you on your never ending journey on
The edge of time, the edge of time, the edge of time



We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming...

(Barney, I just saw your note--couldn't agree more. I've already even forgiven these strutting peacocks their cockiness. Peace at you.)

1/27/2007 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous bilderbugger columbo said...

Could you repeat that?

1/27/2007 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous tapdance127 said...

Hey Shrub, was your deleted post further fervid fantasies of fencing females?

You know that's a no-no. Ha!

1/27/2007 02:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

We feel that two orgasms a day keep us physically and spiritually balanced.

Only two? You Lightweights!!

I would imagine sex with you all would be like sex with women from Stepford. The Stepford women were mindless Zombies who could simulate orgasm upon demand....like Pavlov's Dog. That's not very sexy.

Tsoldrin....very well said....and I agree with most of it, if not all.

I have a coin and one side is Mojo and the other is The Satan Brigade. So it goes with the past several threads....and these coins are no Pennies from Heaven....but, rather, Wooden Nickles...and I've always been told never to take any...so I haven't.

As Carson used to say, "this is really Wild Stuff."

1/27/2007 02:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

Hey Shrub, was your deleted post further fervid fantasies of fencing females?

You know that's a no-no. Ha!


You got me!! I laughed heartily out loud!! Thanks for the chuckle.

Yeah, you gotta love it, don't ya? These chicks are talking about cutting, sucking and killing commentators here, and he chooses to expunge one of my satirically benign posts.

Oh well, I can live with it. Some people rub others the wrong way...and apparently, I rub him the wrong way.

That's life.

1/27/2007 02:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take your time and learn.

Satan doesn't force himself on anyone.

There are many lies and stories to try to scare people away from Satan. Don't believe any of this.

You have a right to find out for yourself.

You can also read about the Inquisition to find out how many people the Christians have killed.

This is all true, though the Christians try to hide it.

It is historical fact. Only when you have enough knowledge, can you make the right choices.

Take your time and learn and don't let anyone pressure you. Many choices you make and things you do now will affect the rest of your life.

Learn everything you can about someone or something without prejudice before you choose.

Don't let other people pressure you or do something just because other people do it or a bunch of people do it.

Those of us who are with Satan are masters and not slaves.

Many lies have been told about Satan and his Demons.

These lies have been forced upon people and fear has been used as a weapon for hundreds of years.

Satan and his Demons are NOT EVIL!! They are the ones who brought knowledge to humanity, so that we can be free.

Satan is our True Creator God.
The Christian god is false. Christianity is not a religion, it is a PROGRAM to stop people from knowing about and using the power of their minds (witchcraft).

Satan has been treated bad by those who hate him for no good reason and who hate humanity and try to enslave us. They want to keep spiritual knowledge and power in the hands of a few.

Satanism is NOT about Role Playing Games, human or animal sacrifice, blood drinking, horror, gore or harming those who do not deserve it.

True Satanism is becoming a God and having god-like power.

The only way to learn the real truth is to find it for yourself. We can never learn the real truth unless we can come to know both sides. Without knowing both sides, we cannot make a real choice.
Truth is only known when we can think for ourselves, without prejudice.
Thinking for ourselves is listening to our own feelings and inner voice, not how we are told to think or believe by others.

Those who wish to enslave and control others depend on people believing everything they are told and not thinking for themselves.

..........................

Two orgasms a minimum day morning and night, plus meditation,
keeps you healthy in body, mind and soul.

............................
All souls that were residing in Hell in spirit form have all been reincarnated recently and will be joining the ranks of Hell here on Earth. This is total fucking war!

For centuries, xians have been relentlessly attacking us and continue to do it to this day. We are persecuted to where we are unable to openly have our own places of Satanic worship in public.

We often have to conceal our beliefs and practices from others in order to keep our jobs, avoid major confrontations with our families and to avoid persecution and harassment.

Places where we can purchase black candles and other Satanic items are becoming more and more scarce and access to Satanic books of prayer and inspiration are impossible to obtain in the mainstream stores that are flooded with xian lies.
We have been turning the cheek for far too long.
It is high time we begin to fight back aggressively and with a vengeance.
The burning days are over and we have the psychic power.

Visualize the little messenger Demons in a hoard and see what happens inside the houses of the enemies. They *will* show up and the energy in the house will take on a chaotic atmosphere of spiritual unease to say the least.

Attack the ignorant with demons during the times they annoy you and see for kicks what he does.

Create as much psychic disruption as you can and sit back and enjoy.

This is lots of fun!!!

sexymaenads

1/27/2007 02:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, Shrub tried to seduce Sabrina, according to her version of what occurred.

But by magick she made him and the messages vanish.

I must warn you of her lascivious ways.
And she always gets her way.
That is real hard work and you must sweat to even keep pace.


Vanished so you cannot have bragging rights, Shrub.
Alas. it is much better then being turned into a stag and being torn apart and eaten by your own hunting dogs.

Freyja

1/27/2007 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AHHHHHH, What's UP DOC!!!!

A gremlin is a mythological mischievous creature. Gremlins are depicted as mechanically oriented and extremely devious.

The concept of the Gremlins as responsible for sabotaging aircraft is first recorded among airmen of Britain's Royal Air Force during World War II, in particular the men of the high altitude Photographic Reconnaissance Units (PRU) of RAF Benson, RAF Wick and RAF St Eval.

The story attempted to explain the accidents which often occurred during their flights.


The lore of the gremlin sometimes known as gremal was first published in issue 13 of the servicemen's fortnightly Royal Air Force Journal dated April 18, 1942.
Although that article states the stories had been in existence for several years, and there are later recollections of it having been told by Battle of Britain Spitfire pilots as early as 1940.

The author of the first article was Hubert Griffith. Later sources have sometimes claimed that the concept goes back to World War I, but there is no print evidence of this.


Falling Hare (1943), in which a gremlin torments Bugs Bunny
Falling Hare (1943), in which a gremlin torments Bugs Bunny

It was at this point Robert Clampett created his 1943 Bugs Bunny film, Falling Hare. With Disney's film being the inspiration, this short has been one of the early Gremlin stories shown to cinema audiences.

Bugs is featured as relaxing at an air field, reading the book Victory Through Hare Power and is amused when the book mentions gremlins, accusing them of "diabolical sabotage". Bugs then hears (and feels) odd clanking sounds which upon investigation reveal a gremlin trying to detonate a blockbuster bomb with a mallet. Bugs pursues the gremlin aboard a bomber which is then put into uncontrolled flight by the gremlin. Bugs tries to keep the plane from crashing even as he is violently assaulted by the gremlin at every turn.

Nothing to these wild stories Gremlins and Foo-Fighters and ufo's and the paranormal, right?

Science fiction!!

Freyja

1/27/2007 03:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gremlin:
ehh ehh ehhh ehhh ehhh ehhnn hhhhhhaa.
.........................
BUGS turning every shade as the plane plunges to the ground:

Oh eh ahh oohh


Good thing we got air brakes!!!!


Freyja

1/27/2007 03:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry for what?
We are sociopaths remember, we do not believe in sin.

By the way IC what are you a WOMAN OR MACHINE?

We have nothing on now and are positive that we are women.
Can you check under the hood and report back?

Barney Fife can you say ANDY?
That dimwit was only trusted with one bullet.
Damn yahoos

Kiss the goat, IC

sexymaenads

1/27/2007 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IC, you annoy us in a MISS MANNERS type of prudish way.
Are you man or machine?

Sabrina

1/27/2007 03:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stepford wifes, pretty good!!

At least you have an imagination.

Actually we are all very sensual and would show you pleasures you never dreamed possible if you had a chance, which you do not, dreamer.

Ever hear of the Kama Sutra?

http://www.kamasutra-sex.org/
Kama Sutra Sex - Love Teachings of the Kama Sutra

We are all very flexible, from all the hatha yoga we do daily.

sexymaenads

1/27/2007 03:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This blog has become redundant and derivative. Jeff has not explored anything new in the past year. It's always the same stuff with the same followers/comments..... keep your eyes firmly focused on the good ol' U.S. of A., the same cast of obvious characters.

How about something new Jeff?..... or spare us more of the same and take a nice long break.

We seem to be going around in circles here. Or is your job done?

1/27/2007 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IC, Helpful hints!!

(1)If what you piss out of looks like an elephants trunk you are either a male or hermaphodite if you answered yes proceeed to number (3) if not go to (2)

(2)If it looks like a crescent moon and smells like a fish, you are a women.

(3)Check do you have balls there should be two, you are a man,if not now check question (2) if you have that moon thing also you are named after the greek god Hermes.
The advantage being you can both finger yourself and simultaneously jerkoff.

Freyja

1/27/2007 04:01:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

So, my lack of aggression, my refusal to sign on to anyone's scheme makes me a either a woman or a machine? Are those alternatives equally bad, or would one please you more? What's all this emphasis on gender, anyway? Do you folks wallowing in your sexuality, which is to say tied to it, maybe even determined by it, believe that your hormones guide your intellect? Where's your mind in all of that, not to mention your eternal soul, if such we even possess?

What was it that Tierisias was able to see that no one else could? (Not that I, personally, claim to be such--I do have a gender, I just try not to let it cloud my thinking.) Why does my agnosticism annoy you all so much, anyway?

1/27/2007 04:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IC , easy now girl/guy, it matters not.
I think integrated circuit.They are asexual too.
How about a JK flipflop in Ambiguous STATE.

Anyway ole IC gal the way I see it.

Resistance is futile,we are BORG.
YOU WILL BE ASSIMULATED OR DESTROYED YOUR CHOICE.

Oh,there i go jumping the gun again.

You do in fact process your brain capacity quite well through computer into the internet, just not my cup of tea i guess.

To each his or her own we always say.

Out of the RAW interview, you practiced selective reading, a serious flaw in your software program and or wetware synapses,
I must note.

Come to Satan he can reprogram you.


Just thought we would repay your kindness with a few more remarks.


Aloof, flippant and enigmatic I admire those attributes in an agnostic.
We are nihilistic in our outlook,
oh the fatalistic futility of life.
Does that count?
Till we found SATAN, I kid you not.
Then my kundalini rose while having sex, that did it.I was always interested in the occult since I was a child.
Found out that it all checked out and here I am.


sabrina

1/27/2007 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Bilderberger Combo said...

It doesn't annoy me, IC, or the thousands of other silent lurkers here who aren't retarded adolescents bent on contributing to the already prodigious amount of human thought-crap pouring into the universe. Good thing the fucker's infinite, or we'd be even more doomed. The comments section at RI, of course, isn't infinite, though reading it will give any sober person a fair aproximation of what eternity feels like.

(ps. Not that I'm NOT a retarded adolescent myself. Or sober. I'm just on your side. I tend to prefer a beautiful mind to - what was it? The high school cafeteria, or something? )

1/27/2007 05:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IC,

Honestly I love sex all kinds and desire more and longer periods of lovemaking to quench my desires.

I have it under control now, but i need it every day and my life would be empty without it.I get angry and cross if I skip it.

I get very aroused at the end of my period too.
I demand it then.

Why do I appreciate lovemaking?

Must be that flash of light that I had at the moment of bliss.

Without sex where would you be?
As a human I can say nowhere.
My father was a horny man.

Sabrina

1/27/2007 05:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bilderburger guess my weight.
I read ealier that you desire my girlfriend Sabrina.

Freyja

1/27/2007 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How old are you Bilderburger 19 with the HIGH SCHOOL reference it must be close, is that your highest scholastic achievement?


You know nothing , contribute nothing and grumble because we enjoy the freedom to express our thoughts and views on the occult.


“Work at destroying their psychic bulwark- the jewish, xian and moslem religions. Let the Demons handle them on the astral. Take my word for it, they have much more psychic power than we do. What they fear the most is the destruction of their judeo/xian/moslem and new age angel worship energy vortex and their false prophets. Then, human adepts will be able to deal with them astrally.”



Does it irk you, that we are not under yours or anyone elses for that matter CONTROL.

Nothing like women out of control, to ruin your day.

We are adept in magick!
You are the fool.
We laugh in your face!!!!

Sabrina

1/27/2007 05:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"THE FUTURE EXISTS
FIRST IN IMAGINATION,
THEN IN WILL,
THEN IN REALITY"
-Robert Anton Wilson

wild&free
sexymaenads
who dare to dream

1/27/2007 05:47:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Pot.... Kettle.... Black.....LAMO

Lucifers slave said;

"Out of the RAW interview, you practiced selective reading, a serious flaw in your software program and or wetware synapses,
I must note."


Yeah,.. Wow..Sharp..YOOURE snmmarrt

....Nope, just checked, the vision is still one of fat baldingmen.

1/27/2007 05:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Bildtheburger and it will Comeover said...

Freyja - If it isn't already clear: I got over fat chicks around the same time I kicked coke. And Sabrina, it's only taken you about 100,000 words, but you managed to actually show a little insight. I HATE that I can't control women, as Mrs. Bilderberger would delight in telling you, if she thought it was worth it.

1/27/2007 06:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sad that Jeff's blog is being taken over by people who think others want to read through ALL their streams of consciousness and reams of data dumping (including the bible for god's sake).

I spend most my time now bypassing all the words. Can't we please get back to refering to websites. I'd already read everything Wikipedia has about Wilhelm Reich, for crying out loud.

I'm bored with the personality clashes also. Ego-death. Let's practice it please.

1/27/2007 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck you Last Poster, put up or shut up!!

This is an open thread, and the other all dealt with the occult and since all occult is from the devil here we are.

We love Satan around here get used to it!!!!!!

You can not get away from Satan.

Face it.

He is here to stay.

Hail Satan
Sabrina

1/27/2007 06:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ego DEATH?
If you only knew what you were saying.

DEATH OF THE Ick, you are so misguided.

ALSO the only rules we follow are that there are no rules.

So basically GO FUCK OFF!!!!

You can not harm us!!!!!
We are against all xtian lies.
We are protected by the Satan and his Demons.

sexymaenads

1/27/2007 06:45:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

An attempt to shift from coarse expressions to something more relevant for the analysis of our situation.

If the depth of understanding is spread more evenly throughout society, there will be less opportunity for con men to pull their scams. This happens to the degree that our criteria for understanding correlate to reality.

As long as the con men can make the rules of playing the reality games complicated, and keep the code to themselves; they can grow their advantage. Of course those complicated rules can be inconvenient, because of their rough correlation to reality, but that’s okay too; yet more profit opportunities. Parasites like their hosts to be sick.

We look to the con men still, because their story seems convincing to the majority of people. Or at least the people that matter, and the dumb people. The rest of us however, have not taken responsibility to create a more intrinsically appealing story. We are fools to think that we merely need some subtle refinement of our current stories. Provide one, and you might even get a job. If it’s close enough to the existing stories, then it can be construed and manipulated to reflect well on those stories. We can do more than simply realize that we have been brainwashed.

By the way, the 'code' that creates disparity in understandings is to create systems that place being before consciousness, (as do current expressions of both religion and science), knowing full well that the opposite is true, thereby deriving immense leverage over the unwashed masses.

The 'code' enforcers mix their 'mystical' consciousness with a certain lack of morals and ethics. They profit from others stupidity and arrogantly promote anything that is corrosive to spiritual growth.

These 'code' enforcers got their start while in the (gold) counting house of the king or bishop. They marveled at the credulity of the common man, and the platform for authority created at the Consul of Nicea.

After tinkin about it for several centuries, eventually in league with other kings, 'chiefs of staff', they created the shape for a new and better fraud; Finally religion will be destroyed--Wow what an improvement.

I will live the Life divine, and not give it up.

I submit to God alone, all glory to God.

1/27/2007 06:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We answer only to Satan.

WE pray for you too.
This is SPIRITUAL WARFARE AND YOUR MIND IS THE BATTLEGROUND


Anethema set

sexymaenads

1/27/2007 06:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Say you love Satan

O Mighty Lord Satan, by whom all things are set free, I cast myself utterly into thine arms and place myself unreservedly under thy all powerful protection. Comfort me and deliver me from all of the hindrances and snares of those who wish to harm me, both seen and unseen.
Visit justice and vengeance upon those who seek my destruction. Render them powerless and devastated. Direct their malice to return upon them tenfold and to destroy them who would resent my being.
Fill my soul with thy infernal power, strengthen me, that I may persevere in my service, and act as an agent of thy works and a vessel of thy will.
This I ask in your name, almighty and ineffable Lord Satan who liveth and reigneth forevermore.
Ave Satanas

sexymaenads
Satans little helper's

1/27/2007 07:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

da,da...da da,da da...dada

you're going to get what you deserve.

1/27/2007 07:04:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Thanks for your help sabrina. Sometimes it seems I have credibility issues (don't we all); perhaps I throw to much at people. It's not easy seeing a larger context through the pixels on a computer screen.

Anyway, you make me look positivly, -rational, so thanks.

1/27/2007 07:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sexy Sadie what have you done
You made a fool of everyone
You made a fool of everyone
Sexy Sadie ooh what have you done.

Sexy Sadie you broke the rules
You layed it down for all to see
You layed it down for all to see
Sexy Sadie oooh you broke the rules.

One sunny day the world was waiting for a lover
She came along to turn on everyone
Sexy Sadie the greatest of them all.

Sexy Sadie how did you know
The world was waiting just for you
The world was waiting just for you
Sexy Sadie oooh how did you know.

Sexy Sadie you'll get yours yet
However big you think you are
However big you think you are
Sexy Sadie oooh you'll get yours yet.

We gave her everything we owned just to sit at her table
Just a smile would lighten everything
Sexy Sadie she's the latest and the greatest of them all.

She made a fool of everyone
Sexy Sadie.

However big you think you are
Sexy Sadie.


KISS THE GOAT
........................................
The Masochistic Lier
jesus christ died for his own sins not mine
You can read the symbols you can read the signs

If you read very carefully between the lines

You will see all we ever wanted was to be free

We are all looking for answers
Looking forward to the day we die
Nihilistic savages that live for today
Can't harm themselves
You know what they say
Nothing really matters anyway!!!!!

wild&free
sexymaenads

1/27/2007 07:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YOU can not KILL US because we are already DEAD!!!
You are the scared ones!!!

sexymaenads

1/27/2007 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes,Sounder we go into a frenzy don't we?

As far as rational that we are not.

We are unreasonable to say the least.

Like the Maenads, we worship Dionysus.

In his many incarnations.

Our thoughts made a wave.

Besides we need a new game though although we like messing around with you, it is time to move on.
Learning takes time and one day it all comes together.

Jeff has enough information and ideas for a book or two we now hope.
You all should give him more credit for he will make it big with some luck.

doei
sexymaenads

1/27/2007 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck off sabrina you boring cunt.

1/27/2007 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Neff Mells said...

warm up (late

ok..not to flater my self but..Benny.. .doing his empire state building thing..tin-tined. .ok?

Mondo atomic blast mid town...10 points bob bunny..ok?

paralel; no more gtb's plus blew out eddy 944 sustem..pretty god;
next problem is guys laying cars out like anybody knows what the XXX they're talking about - you win a jag..great.. no I don't meet in clubs (I don't go to clubs..ever) so....I
presumed, ineffect, the jobs had been run. Actualy it was explained, getting an inspection sticker for the old 400/4 super sport, some benny: smile:"Jag.. "

hey everybody likes a jag; actualy, .., an opening salvo on the lets kill larry agenda..., really have to be carefull (why I always say..Leonardo de vinci, I mean..alfa romeo) though it was Honda: grand prix: production mv augusta, mike hailwood and john seurtees - not in ...new york sity mXXX...fXXX

oh well.
No bikes.

Toy citroens..

subteranain tintin coming up..umsome office: real estate: man from uncle guy in the promo - the do that in boston..really. ..60 s tv is
really big..I don't watch tv....., fruit cake worlds championships.., .era
guys did that and..jobs were done and...have no choice but to
neagate...

back in the day, black beeper."love your God, himself a Pentecostal street gang--also were happily demanded recompense within enormous wardrobes,

other sil;l;y rumour (aparently a stadard)Hizbollah hashbrowns
dems: work, school-
etc...then gamboy-mania: c'est moi the faux princess..skip over
another (so-so) real princess, poor soulks in camaros driving around
in circles,,,,dies. .part of the game; stanadrd; very
steady...aparently, infamounse sort of...stahling boxster
princess..oops: opver excited again..yup.. who real princess up a
punk rocker.., their system really is that substantial. ., stt coming up.

...which are now behind-the-counter-and-sign-this-paper-you-possible-meth-lab-suspect cold medicines) day time soap gossip, Dr. Frist's brain spatula and the guy eyed me suspiciously.

1/27/2007 08:27:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Wow, and you did this for him? No wonder he is a bit under the weather.

I on the other hand see in Jeff a unique ability to help identify and deal with cognitive dissonance in engaging and positive ways. ....NOT what I see from you.

Care to deal with that material from Paul Levy. You said you liked it, -you had an opportunity. You choose to not take it. Some freedom.

Care to talk about the 'Code'. No, fine your choice.

The answer is clear, you like the 'code'. Not in your interest to discuss substance? Stick with the well-paid practice of emptying forms of all substance. Do what you do well, and good day.

1/27/2007 08:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Shrubageddon said...

I find women who fence, erotic.

Please, quickly copy and paste the the comment above before it gets expunged. Afterall, it offends others' sensibilities.

Ha!!

1/27/2007 08:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You arrested development girls (or as other suggest: one girl with multiple personalities; or a balding man with crossdressing fetish possibly--I am keeping all this open) should learn some manners, lest we mistake ye for Christians more and more.

As for this comment by supposedly the alter 'sexymaneads':

"This is SPIRITUAL WARFARE AND YOUR MIND IS THE BATTLEGROUND."

No, this is not "spiritual warfare" which would make you exactly like Christian mental controllers you seem to despise.

This is a conversation among equals, and your mind is nothing special compared to any other. Nothing.

Yes, as another anon notes:

"I'm bored with the personality clashes also. Ego-death. Let's practice it please."

Yes, 'they' are very egoistic aren't 'they.'

However, I did appreciate the info on Reich, though not posted twice back to back; and I did appreciate the interesting summary of blood sacrifice in the Old Testament as the historical change of religious views in the wider Mediterranean is one of my interests.

'They' may find the book Pagan Europe interesting, though I don't think 'they' want friendship or information exchange to be a two way street. 'They' have seemingly not learned of the capacities of friendly conversation or have let their capacities atrophy intentionally toward the "mind war" preferred.

Just what a Christian prefers of course is the same thing. Or any religious-hardwired perspective. So from the point of view of the 'mass psychology of Satanism' (for a true Reichism), there's nothing special about Satanism. Scratch a Satanist, find the same abstract psychology of a social movement of mental control via sexual control. This is what Reich talked about in both fascism and communism, only with Satanism, this control is just methodologically applied in a different manner. Instead of a sexual repression leadership, its some other leadership telling you to be sexually fecund and judging you on that. Same principle of social control through sexuality. Satanists aren't thus "freeing" themselves in comparison to other cults of sexual repression, they are equally enslaving themselves on the same sexual principles.

Just a Wilhelm Reich-like observation from a book he could have written though didn't: The Mass Psychology of Satanism.

This is only a sexuality of repression turned inside out: to repress others in a novel way. It's an inside out application of the same sexual repression methods of Christian fundamentalists, merely directed toward external control of others and toward selfish egoistic things, instead of with many Christians internal control through sex principles as well (sexual abstinence).

Everything you have posted has only increasingly confirmed this to me.

It's really a silly chicken and egg question, meaning it's not important which came first, because the whole use of sexual discipline was incrasingly common in the first few centuries of the 0-300 CE period--only the methods were very diverse using that sexual discipline.

For instance, historically, of course SOME early Christians we could call quite "Satanist" and took the "soon arriving" Second Coming as a sign that nothing mattered except their own egos, and Christian orgiastic sex is the route to Heaven. Additionally was a view that since they were entirely 'forgiven' by Christ, they had licence to be what we would probably call "Satanists": Christians feeling that they had license to literally kill, steal, and have as much orgies as possible, because they were already saved.

I'm not taking a side here, and am attempting to point out that there's no side to be taken, like you think there is: I'm just pointing out that your Satanism really only a branch of early Christianity entirely PART OF the huge amalgam of Mediterranean culture that went into the 'Christian heritage' for lack of another term based on sexual disciplinary activities increasingly, instead of something distinct called 'Satanism.'

1/27/2007 08:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Neff Mells said...

Cnt."Ich bin ein Berliner"
And what is the point exactly_to put everything on hold and record the ticker tape stops. The Ticker Man . A snoring bear . Largest in Frankfurt turning my back on Baker-Botts cel phone such this and that Delicata. Because of Lebanon Summer of Phosphorus,made WAR without town square layout--providing and replaced it used by the depleted uranium case civilian targets 700 Club Mexico Palestine and red cross vehicles defanged and salami ´Put that toggle switch away. tactics.Abramoff Lucifer dehydrated amputee Sociopath Volvo radiator fluid in the world and the was prescribed Neurotonin " to cast out any has not required patients, tear down Thetan Schezwan Zen Fascist Candidate--Operation Blessing, A yellow crescent seal of Solomon. Hotel David Baby Boomer homicide spooks. Police surveillance passport number profiled. You do not have the body. ICE DHS no corpus cluster bombs my every move. Sharon Milosovich same pedigree same military Psyop same armchair general....do something self actualizing and Sharon will be there under the flesh punitive ion efflux artificial estrogen the instant children of Biological Determinism Caste without a defect something in the milk or the hospital maternity ward the shampoo fodder for monopoly praetorian porkers genitalia big enough for steers and queers. Spare the Air.

1/27/2007 08:48:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

neff mells and anon 8:36, Thank you, good stuff.

1/27/2007 08:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The "Artist" formerly known as O.F.S. said: Christians are bashed regularly here, but I notice that few of you (not all) have the guts to actually use the name of Jesus the Christ, or, if you prefer, Yeshua ben Yahweh. At least learn a thing or two about your hotly and deeply avowed enemy.
Yeshua = God IS Salvation.
ben = Son of.
Yahweh = I Was, I AM, & I Will BE!!!
People please! KNOW YOUR ENEMY. Yes, one of them is me. Machs Nichts! Que Sera Sera. Hopefully, fellow bloggers, at least ONE of us is right! WHAT IF.........We've ALL gotten it wrong???

1/27/2007 09:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The "Artist" formerly known as O.F.S. said"....

nothing important.

1/27/2007 10:12:00 PM  

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