Monday, November 27, 2006

Floating in a Most Peculiar Way

Did I fall or was I pushed?
And where's the blood? - Harrowdown Hill

I've been thinking about Alexander Litvinenko's alleged last words: "The bastards got me, but they won't get everybody." Not that the bastards won't try. In a year in which the Texas Academy of Science gave a standing ovation to its most distinguished member for a paper advocating the eradication of 90% of the Earth's population by airborne Ebola, only the unguardedly naive would think some bastards with the means wouldn't dream of getting everybody, or near enough everybody.

But before we make his last words our first, we should consider who he meant by them. Litvinenko's bastards were Russian, specifically Putin loyalists, though his employers in exile have also been called bastards and worse. Notably Boris Berezovsky, formerly lawless oligarch and latterly investor in Neil Bush's scholastic software firm "Ignite" (to which was funneled Barbara Bush's donation to the "Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund.") It's reported that weeks before his death, Litvinenko delivered a dossier on the Kremlin's takeover of oil giant Yukos to its former second-in-command, Leonid Nevzlin, who had found asylum in Israel. And that reminds me of another suspicious death on British soil: the 2004 helicopter crash of wealthy lawyer Stephen Curtis, managing director of Yukos after the jailing of Mikhail Khodorkovsky. To avoid Russian prosecution, and after weeks of anonymous death threats, Curtis approached Britain's National Criminal Intelligence Service "days before his death, offering information in return for protection." Two weeks prior to the crash, Curtis told his uncle that if "anything happened" to him, it would not be an accident.

Even as spectators, we want to choose sides. We want to know who are the good guys. For the past six years at least, that's often meant finding out which side the Bush family was on and then cheering on the other. But playing a single side would mean risking loss and so, by delivering his own son to crucifixion by James Baker, George HW Bush has won again. There have been other strange and uncomfortable and pathetic scenes, such as George Soros and Warren Buffet welcomed as white-knight plutocrats, and the uncritical embrace of a parade of self-described former Republicans, Bush insiders and CIA officials saying the darnedest things about 9/11.

I think of a passage in Litvinenko's Blowing Up Russia recounting the night in Ryazan when sacks of explosive hexogene rigged with a timing device were discovered in the basement of an apartment complex. The building was evacuated, except for an elderly woman who couldn't be moved and her daughter who refused to leave her. They remained within the emergency cordon, expecting their apartment to collapse upon them.

In the daughter's words:

I suddenly had this realization that my mother and I were probably the only two people in a house with a bomb in it. I felt quite unbearably afraid. But then suddenly there was ring at the door. Standing on the doorstep were two senior militia officers. They asked me sternly: "Have you decided you want to be buried alive, then, woman?" I was so scared my legs were giving way under me, but I stood my ground; I wouldn't go without my mother. And then they suddenly took pity on me: "All right then, stay here, your house has already been made safe." It turned out they'd removed the detonators from the charge even before they inspected the flats.

We stand our ground, we don't move, they can't kill us all. If there's an us, there can be many different thems, but whoever the bastards may be they don't always win. In Ryazan, a vigilant neighbour just happened to witness the planting of explosives and called local authorities. If he hadn't, the building would have been demolished like the apartments before it, full of sleeping casualties. If a Ryazan telephone operator hadn't recorded a suspicious call to Moscow the terrorists might have escaped and their FSB connections remained undisclosed. But because two of us acted, Russian security was obliged to peddle the egregious lie of an "exercise" after days of calling it a foiled terrorist plot.

The neo-fascist right tried to rig Italy's recent election and failed, and P2 cryptocrat Berlusconi can pass out during a speech just as surely as George HW Bush can vomit in the lap of his Japanese host.

September 11th, while a covert success story, saw many little blunders that contribute to making its cover story fly apart on examination. Think of the confusion of tongues amongst the alphabet agencies, with some elements acting in good faith and others, not. For instance, it was FBI agents who confirmed to Indian intelligence that Pakistan's General Mahmoud Ahmad had ordered ISI/al Qaeda double agent Omar Saeed Sheikh to wire funds to Mohamed Atta in Florida. How do you imagine they felt when Ahmad was allowed to retire, unquestioned, and the 9/11 commission declared the terrorist money trail of no consequence? Possibly like the DEA agents who see their high-profile collars quietly released on account of pressure by the State Department and the CIA.

But unless we do something with the information we've processed, and make something of our knowledge, then their defeats revert to their strengths. Thinking of Ryazan, of 9/11, of Brabant and David Kelly we revolt but in only the transitive sense, by being disgusted to the point of nausea. But sickness is debilitating, and dwelling on it is no substitute for a cure.

Bobby star William H Macy told The Globe and Mail last week that when he heard Robert Kennedy had been shot "I felt like I'd been punched in the gut.... We had thought we could change everything. We could end the war. We could bring down a president. The people had power. I remember after Bobby was assassinated, it felt hopeless." The bastards got him, and everybody else in the bargain, because their hope was invested in one man. Perhaps hope, if it means to be effectual, needs to be divested.

The bastards are not omnipotent, but they are omnivorous, which only appears to be a God-like quality in a world such as this.


Blogger ericswan said...

When the trot out the word "hero" be afraid. As in "not".

11/27/2006 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Top notch, Jeff. As always.

And I am extremely happy to see the line from Thom Yorke's outstanding The Eraser. The next line is "But where's the blood?" It is all over all of us. The difference between us and them is that we are disgusted and ashamed of being covered in it, and they bathe in it with unabashed glee. That is why we oppose them, isn't it? To cleanse ourselves of what they have done in our name. We will never give up, however much we stumble or are picked off one by one. There will always be at least one of us to oppose them... the trick is building a critical mass of us to be successful at attaining an end-game. Is that even possible? Have they already reached critical mass?

11/27/2006 11:13:00 AM  
Blogger plectic said...

Bastards they may be..... but to paraphrase Comte de Fénix

"The absolute rule of the state shall be a function of the absolute liberty of each individual will".

11/27/2006 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brilliant Jeff!!!

11/27/2006 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again the value, nay, the neccesity of decentralization is pointed out.

Now if we could just get enough folks to turn off "must see TV",
'reality television'and CNN\Fox news. If more people cared then
the idea might have a chance.

11/27/2006 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I think you need to read this article relating to Alexander Litvinenko's death:

"The Nuking of Alexander Litvinenko:
Why it's unlikely the KGB killed him."

11/27/2006 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


And how come you haven't mentioned anything about the recent arrest of accused Russian spy "Paul William Hampel" by CSIS?!

Is Canadian politics too boring for you....or do we continue to look elsewhere as your posts suggest.

11/27/2006 01:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Awesomely inspiring, Jeff. In my opinion, this is your best and most important post ever.

11/27/2006 02:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow! Simply brilliant! Your best post to date. Remains to be seen if the “us” get the message…

11/27/2006 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not sure I trust - a possible disinfo site I wager. I'm still looking for something about Alexander Litvinenko that ties in the nuclear aspect. It strikes me that somehow this is important - it's a type of nuclear escalation that somebody wants. I find it strange that his picture has been on the front page of the BBC News site for four days now, sitting there like a grim warning, a head on a spike at the city walls. Seems to me that MI6 use the BBC news as their public mouthpiece. What is going on???? What is the real meaning of this public execution?

11/27/2006 02:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read that article, too. the whole situation is really strange (and one that we'll probably never really understand). is delivery of pollonium-210 as a weapon on an individual an old or new trick? is someone selling their wares or sending a warning (from any number of perspectives)? is Putin working in tandem with bush/U.S. interests or is he really pissed about being encircled by NATO?

I like this blog even though it sometimes seems a bit too far "out there" (especially with the paranormal stuff, although it can read as metaphor, i guess), but i am somewhat surprised to see a quick finger-point to Putin's Russia...I tend to think (regardless of what kind of guy Putin is) that there is a legitimate effort going on to demonize Russia and create another "monster" to support U.S. defense intersts should the terrorism game be untenable for the long-haul.

also, Yuschenko's poisoning i don't think was meant to kill.

i read most of the comments over the weekend about morality and action - thanks, really interesting stuff.

a useful collective action would seem to be a renewed political effort to reduce (with the ultimate goal of elimination) the world's nuclear arsenal. the U.S. has to be the instigator, here.

11/27/2006 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel a lot closer to you Jeff when you raise above the Star Wars dialectic.Its a shame that you cannot apply that discernment to the ....

I believe the individuals concerned are motivated by ideals not ideology per-se but rather the truth as they feel it? see it? experience it?

History is but a footnote a mere 10 seconds ago as they engage with the present and the future.

90% Ebola population cull thats' not a nice idea but it is an idea!

Unlike the witterings of yet another middle class ponce/pop star.

kill your idols.

11/27/2006 05:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure Omar Saeed has been discussed here before, but here's a link (pretty long, though) to an interesting article on the strange web that can be spun from the story of omar saeed, as well as many strange connections among terrorists, national security types, legal structure, politicos, media...interesting takes on false flags and "divide and conquer" methods, too.

11/27/2006 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff, you don't understand.

Look closer at the world --- you will see that "the bastards" are slowly and imperceptibly being encircled by the humans. In their arrogance, they don't even notice
the noose that has appeared around their necks. It's not the bastards here or there; it's
the bastards everywhere.

I'm hoping they're kept alive.

It would be far more poetic to hang the sign beneath their cages:
"Here mayst thou see the beasts."

11/27/2006 06:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ebola chap is right -- I mean, I'm not sure that's an example of the "them" and the sort of appetites "they" have.

Sorry, some liberationist sensitivity isn't going to change the stunningly bleak ecological situation.

The Amazon will still be dead in 30 years and that the oceans are regressing to acidic pools of primordial slime. And every point between the tropics of Cancer and Capercorn will become like the Sahara.

I mean all this stuff is horrible beyond imagination. But a few people (like James Lovelock) are pointing it out, and eventually it will be inescapable. (it is for some of us already, of course.)

What are "we" going to do after throwing off the yoke of their oppression -- rejoice in our unliveable world? Eat some jellyfish and splash around in the dead oceans? Take a dust bath in the former Amazon?

There is no path forward that isn't hideous both beyond all imagine and all prior human experience (itself chock full of horrors). It's almost cruel to suggest otherwise.

11/27/2006 06:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The bastards are not omnipotent, but they are omnivorous, which only appears to be a God-like quality in a world such as this."

Absolutely, brilliantly succinct.

Well done as always Jeff!


11/27/2006 07:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good point esk. If it's not ebola, how about hydrogen sulfide? it worked well to bring the permian period to an abrupt end.

From Here.

Hydrogen Sulfide, Not Carbon Dioxide, May Have Caused Largest Mass Extinction
While most scientists agree that a meteor strike killed the dinosaurs, the cause of the largest mass extinction in Earth's history, 251 million years ago, is still unknown, according to geologists.

"During the end-Permian extinction 95 percent of all species on Earth became extinct, compared to only 75 percent during the KT when the dinosaurs disappeared," says Dr. Lee R. Kump, professor of geosciences. "The end-Permian is puzzling. There is no convincing smoking gun, no compelling evidence of an asteroid impact."

Researchers have shown that the deep oceans were anoxic, lacking oxygen, in the late Permian and research shows that the continental shelf areas in the end-Permian were also anoxic. One explanation is that sea level rose so that the anoxic deep water was covering the shelf. Another possibility is that the surface ocean and deep ocean mixed, bringing anoxic waters to the surface.

Decomposition of organisms in the deep ocean could have caused an overabundance of carbon dioxide, which is lethal to many oceanic organisms and land-based animals.

"However, we find mass extinction on land to be an unlikely consequence of carbon dioxide levels of only seven times the preindustrial level," Kump told attendees today (Nov. 3) at the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America in Seattle. "Plants, in general, love carbon dioxide, so it is difficult to think of carbon dioxide as a good kill mechanism."

On the other hand, hydrogen sulfide gas, produced in the oceans through sulfate decomposition by sulfur bacteria, can easily kill both terrestrial and oceanic plants and animals.

Humans can smell hydrogen sulfide gas, the smell of rotten cabbage, in the parts per trillion range. In the deeps of the Black Sea today, hydrogen sulfide exists at about 34 part per million. This is a toxic brew in which any aerobic, oxygen-needing, organism would die. For the Black Sea, the hydrogen sulfide stays in the depths because our rich oxygen atmosphere mixes in the top layer of water and controls the diffusion of hydrogen sulfide upwards.

In the end-Permian, as the levels of atmospheric oxygen fell and the levels of hydrogen sulfide and carbon dioxide rose, the upper levels of the oceans could have become rich in hydrogen sulfide catastrophically. This would kill most of the oceanic plants and animals. The hydrogen sulfide dispersing in the atmosphere would kill most terrestrial life.

Kump and colleagues, Alexander Pavlov, University of Colorado; Michael Arthur, professor of geosciences, Penn State; Anthony Riccardi, graduate student, Penn State; and Yashuhiro Kato, University of Tokyo, are looking at sediments from the end-Permian found in Japan.

"We are looking for biomarkers, indications of photosynthetic sulfur bacteria," says Kump. "These photo autotrophic organisms live in places where there is no oxygen, but still some sunlight. They would have been in their hay day in the end-Permian." Finding biomarkers of green sulfur bacteria would provide evidence for hydrogen sulfide as the cause of the mass extinctions.

So, what of the 5 percent of the species on Earth that survived? Kump suggests that the mixing of the deep ocean layers and the upper layer was not uniform and that refugia, places where oxygen still existed, remained, both in the oceans and on land.

11/27/2006 07:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

regarding Alexander Litvinenko's death the plot thickens. He had just returned from Israel with a dossier exposing corruption with Russia's major oil producers. And more people have tested positive for radiation exposure in Britain. They are being vague with numbers but doesn't sound good.

11/27/2006 08:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sorry link was too long, here's a better one. Also breaking news of a Russian billionaire involved in a fiery crash on the Riverera.

11/27/2006 08:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Litvinenko poisoning leads in so many directions at once that trying to sort them out is an exercise in itself.

One possible place to start is with Peter Dale Scott's classic "The Global Drug Meta-Group: Drugs, Managed Violence, and the Russian 9/11" -- which points in the direction of Chechen drug trafficking and Adnan Kashoggi.

The murder of Paul Klebnikov may also offer clues:

American Editor of Russian Forbes Killed

07.10.2004, 02:13 AM
An American journalist who launched Forbes Magazine's Russian edition and gained attention for publishing a list of Russia's wealthiest people was shot and killed outside his office in Moscow.

Paul Klebnikov, a 41-year-old of Russian descent, was hit four times and died in a rescue vehicle, Russian news reports said. The radio station Ekho Moskvy said shells of two different caliber were found at the scene, indicating at least two assailants.

Klebnikov started Forbes' Russian-language edition in April and was the author of a book about tycoon Boris Berezovsky. Formerly a senior editor with the U.S.-based Forbes, he had reported extensively about organized crime in Russia.

In the blog on the Marc Rich pardon, I briefly mentioned the controversial article written by Klebnikov that drew a slander & libel lawsuit for Forbes in the British courts. The primary reason in which this lawsuit was filed in England is because the UK has far more strict laws that favor cases on libel and slander. The charges of slander were based upon implications made in the article of Boris Berezovsky, the Russian Oligarch's alleged ties to a murder. After Forbes made a retraction, Berezovsky dropped/settled the lawsuit.

And from there it's an easy jump to Marc Rich and the Russian Mafia:

Rich’s role in ruining Russia’s economy was detailed in the book "Godfather of the Kremlin," by Paul Klebnikov, who Dreher describes as an expert on Russia and a Forbes magazine senior editor.

The book reveals how Rich and Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky and associates stole untold sums from the Russian people through corrupt international financial manipulations. . . .

It is widely believed by intelligence experts that today's powerful Russian "mafia" is nothing more than an arm of Russian intelligence agencies, such as the former KGB.

The LaRouchies, in turn, take the connections a step further. (Usual grain of salt recommended here, especially when they start muttering about "Mega.")

Mikhail Chernoy is a major figure in the Russian Mafiya, whose "business" activities have been associated with Benya Stilitz's attempted takeover of Alpha Bank in Russia, and earlier Mafiya moves to corner the Russian aluminum sector, in league with none other than Marc Rich. . . .

Mikhail Chernoy's brother Lev has been a prime target of the Swiss investigation into the Russian Mafiya since he attempted to take over the Russian aluminum industry-allegedly with the assistance of Marc Rich. Also, according to Robinson, Swiss investigators believe that Lev Chernoy has ties with the Mega-linked "Russian oligarch" Boris Berezovsky, who is accused of siphoning $200 million in hard currency out of Aeroflot accounts and into Switzerland. Both Chernoy and Berezovsky are suspected of involvement with the Bank of New York, which laundered billions of dollars in hard currency and state assets out of the Soviet Union during the early 1990s.

See also this:

The Washington Times | June 23, 2002

Marc Rich Linked To $9 Billion Money Laundering Investigation

MILAN, Italy - European prosecutors say that documents identifying Marc Rich - the American fugitive who won an 11th-hour pardon from President Clinton - have turned up during a crackdown on money laundering and the Russian mafia. . . .

The probe, one of the largest in recent history, was born out of the U.S. Justice Department investigation of the Bank of New York's role in large-scale money laundering from Russia in 1999.

The "Spiderweb" probe focused on the repatriation of funds from the Bank of New York and offshore centers to Russia through Italian and other European front companies.

"Basically, the Russians were sending all the money that they could out of the country, and at one point, many of the same people decided they wanted to bring the money back," one Italian investigator said.

"The problem was, as they had illegally sent the money out, now they had to find a way to re-launder, or make their money legal for the Russian authorities. So they decided to use friendly Italian companies to issue false invoices or send goods to Russia and make everything look more or less legit."

It may or may not be significant that the Bank of New York scandal broke wide open in 1999 -- which was the same year as the false-flag bombings in Russia -- and also the same year that a bunch of everyone's favorite Neocons launched the American Committee for Peace in Chechnya with the aim of beating up on Putin.

Or that Mikhail Chernoy is involved in John Loftus's Intelligence Project -- a current hangout for many of those same Neocons, who now have Iran in their sights.

But one way or another, the context in which Berezovsky and his associates operate is far wider than merely that of dirty Russian politics and occasional gangland-style murders.

11/27/2006 08:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I didn't finish reading the post b/c of the reference to the Texas Academy of Science thing kinda threw me off. I remember reading something about the incident a few months ago on the Kos. Something like the guy who wrote the article was a creationist masquerading as a scientist, and also happened to be a rival of Dr. Pianka. Let me see if I can track down the diary...

ahh, here we go:

just another side of the story which, in my mind, seems more likely...

back to your post...

Your Friendly Neighborhood Disinfo Agent

11/27/2006 08:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

jeff, just when things seem to become far too complex to understand..hindsight's rewards are given.

synchronicity again. i've been having similar thoughts as well.

we can't just dwell on the sickness, we must observe it and diagnose it, sure...but what do we do about it? ..and when do we do it?...

i looked up the word divest as i hadn't heard of it before..and i found this quote:

“Most secretive of men, let him at last divest himself of secrets, both his and ours” (Brendan Gill).

(Brendan Gill (October 4, 1914 – December 27, 1997) wrote for The New Yorker for more than 60 years. He also contributed film criticism for Film Comment and wrote a popular book about his time at the New Yorker magazine. Born in Hartford, Connecticut, Gill was graduated in 1936 from Yale University, where he was a member of Skull & Bones.)

what wicked webs they weave..

11/27/2006 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And how come you haven't mentioned anything about the recent arrest of accused Russian spy "Paul William Hampel" by CSIS?!"

The fact that Jeff has not mentioned anything about this recent event speaks volumes. WAKE UP PEOPLE! WHO ARE THE REAL MINDERS OF THIS BLOG!?

11/27/2006 10:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

""And how come you haven't mentioned anything about the recent arrest of accused Russian spy "Paul William Hampel" by CSIS?!"

The fact that Jeff has not mentioned anything about this recent event speaks volumes. WAKE UP PEOPLE! WHO ARE THE REAL MINDERS OF THIS BLOG!?"

I am, bitches. Don't you know if every single incident that ever happens ISN'T covered in this blog then this blog is nothing more than a disinfo site. You're all slaves to what I tell you...

Your Friendly Neighborhood Disinfo Agent

11/28/2006 02:22:00 AM  
Blogger ftr23532 said...

excellent and inspiring as usual.

and Starroute,
For a bit more on the Russian money-laundering scandals of 1999, check out Part 10 of my blog for some more interesting info regarding the Russian money-laundering scandals. In particular, check out the involvement of Edmond Safra's Republic National Bank. Then take a look at Part 11 for some more questionable activities in the summer of 2001 involving Willard Zucker, one of the fellows in the Iran Contra-intwined Sicord/Hakim/Zucker ring that used Safra's bank as a conduit. It could be bunk or tangential but it's still interesting.

The more I look at the possibilities of what has been taking place in Russia with respect to the bigger picture, the more it seems like the end of the Cold War included some sort of replay of what was witnessed with the post-WII move into the underworld by the Third Reich: The incredible covert capabilities of the Soviet empire dealt with its desolution by becoming infused with the global underworld (more than it already was). Except this time that underworld was far more sophisticated and integrated into the overworld and the clandestine cryptostates than was the case in the wake of WWII.

As Jeff has thoroughly demonstrated over the years, it would be a far more horrific situation if there wasn't such an extensive paper trail. So at least we have a horrific, captivating, and rather condemning history to examine. Or to put it another way: It could be a lot worse, and perhaps we should be thankful for the immense amount of evidence available to us that something is horribly awry. A lot of people of suffered and died to get us what we have today to work with. Maybe if we focus even more on their sacrifice we can find the strength to overcome this dark debacle.

11/28/2006 04:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>Grand Moff Tarkin said...

I believe the individuals concerned are motivated by ideals not ideology per-se but rather the truth as they feel it? see it? experience it?<

Grand Moff, that IS Ideology.

11/28/2006 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Berezovsky killed Litvinenko. Cui bono.

11/28/2006 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The uncritical posting of Mims's lurid account of the Texas Academy of Science meeting seems naïve and embarrassing in light of the critical Kos diary on the subject of this controvery. (Thanks for the link, Disinfo-Man.) I was not familiar with Pianka before today, but scientific rivalries have been known to cause the parties to them to, uh, stretch the truth. Not very rigorous.

11/28/2006 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This whole discussion of Pianko is somewhat of a cannard, and only serves to detract from a discussion that must be had. If the majority of the inhabitants of this planet continue to bury their collective heads in the sand and continue down this road of unsustainability, then our fate will be decided either by nature itself, or by those who are having the discussion.

I found an interesting link. I say interesting, because it is hosted by an organization called fatima. If the source can be trusted, it should serve as a wake-up call. Influential people are having this discussion, and the discussion they are having is in plain sight. If we don't collectively act, ultimately they, or nature will, and it may not be necessarily on our collective behalf.

Here's the link

I found Ted Turner's comments both disturbing and amusing, as I'm sure you will agree. Here's what he has to say about population growth:

Ted Turner

Ted Turner, one of the co-chairs of the State of the World Forum, is more patient than Cousteau is. He will allow 80 to 100 years to reduce the population of the Earth from 6 billion to 2 billion. In an interview with E Magazine, an environmentalist publication, Turner explained:

"The simplest answer is that the world's population should be about two billion, and we've got about six billion now. I haven't done the actuarial tables, but if every woman in the world voluntarily stepped up and said, 'I'll only have one child,' and if we did that for the next 80 to 100 years, that would reduce the kind of suffering we're having. ... We could have 10 billion people living below the poverty line, or we could have two billion people living well, and having color TVs and an automobile. The planet can support that number of people, and that's the way it was in 1930. You didn't have the global warming problem then, or all these problems that have occurred since the population has built up. And how you get there is very complicated. It's going to take a lot of education and improvements in health care. Personally, I think the population should be closer to when we had indigenous populations, back before the advent of farming. Fifteen thousand years ago, there was somewhere between 40 and 100 million people. But [population researchers] Paul and Anne Ehrlich have convinced me that if we're going to have a modern infrastructure, with commercial airlines and interstate highways around the world, we're going to need about two billion people to support it." (1127)

11/28/2006 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let us be frank here, there are no good guys, only varying degrees of greedy and unscrupulously bad ones working on either side of street without any particular regard for anyone but themselves.

It is merely inevitable that the logistics of protecting some of their vital interests occasionally coincides with some of those of the average person, otherwise they'd be just as ruthlessly trashed and casually disposed of as any that that don't, never fear about that.

We are up against a cold, dead, and perfectly bleak materialist rationale in which everything has been reduced to a dollars and cents formula from which a profitable return must always be extracted; regardless of whatever it is…religion, politics, crime, love, life, death or anything in between.

There is virtually no facet of life left that doesn’t exist as a cut and dried commodity that can either be sold to us or some private toll gate erected on any avenue to reach it that leave us any genuine choice of our own in that matter.

We aren't citizens or participants anymore. We're simply customers of the business of state and we won't get any better treatment or satisfaction out of it or a better explanation of what it’s doing than we get from our local supermarkets or gas pumps.

As far as the politicians are concerned it’s “their business” not ours and we had better stick to minding our own if we know what’s good for us…hmmm?

There are no longer any such things as ideals, intrinsic values, quality, or intangible benefits. They are a things of an equally cold and distant past…dreams…illusions…and childish fantasies that are scoffed at by these supposedly calculating, hard boiled, and presumably logical “realists”.

If it can't be equated in dollars and cents and produce a respectable profit in return it not only don't deserve to exist… it needs to be eradicated. There's simply no percentage in having anyone worry about it, least of all a complacent society of consumers.

If you can't afford to pay the fines for breaking any of the minor laws still left governing this new “Business of Life” you simply have to comply with them, is all. They really only have a bearing on small independent individuals but a half step away from ourselves, only marginally larger or glorified consumers themselves not any real players in this new business who can all very much afford to pay them.

For them breaking laws is just another part and relative cost of this business itself. If you're racking up the serious dollars like the Wal-martians, (or any of the other alien corporate monsters with no fixed address), it’s a tidy little profit center of its own that allows breaking as many laws as you need simply to max out those all important deduction columns wherever they operate.

Walmart has even built a bunker and staffed it with hundreds of the best legal minds it can buy all on their payroll to do just that. The lowest price is the only law they need to obey, everything and anything else is permissible as long as they obey that one for their masters.

That is the sad reality of how things now stand with the “business of state” gladly helping it along by allowing all lawyer’s fees and fines levied against any corrupt business to be completely written off. There is no power to cramp whatever style of business they adopt to get their all important profits.

Citizens pay the entire shot for a legal process in which whatever the state seemingly takes away from criminal business activities with one hand it simply gives back usually with interest, behind their backs, with the other.

In a similarly fashion countless billions in public property and infrastructure get obliterated in a natural disaster and not a single figure is entered on the debit side of any state or national ledgers.

Instead all the money forked out to try and patch things up gets added directly to the GDP and gosh, by golly...that bottom line is looking even better than it did before the disaster struck! Maybe we could use a few more of these things...hmmm? Just think of all that extra money those governments can simply borrow off that fattening line and the handy lie it represents about any real ability to pay for it.

Our world isn't simply getting crazy, pathological, upside-down, and going to pieces, it is crazy, pathological, upside-down and gone to pieces.

There isn't a single tragedy or grief, or an ache or a pain that any average person has to bear anywhere on this planet that doesn't ring-up big time on one of those largest cash registers out there. It’s all just grist for the mill.

Worst of all it's all it’s presented to be perfectly normal or natural for it to be that way. Scientifically verified, in fact, by Sigmund Freud who unquestionably established that we only want to screw one another anyways, even our parents, and by Charles Darwin who established that the very fittest and finest among us will unerringly fly humanity's true colors by doing just that.

The only rule that matters in our so-called modern life is "There's no getting out it if you can't buy your way out of it." and all the major corporations have finally managed buy their way out with our hard earned money and taxes and left us permanently stuck with all their accumulating bills to add to our own and keep us forever trapped right where they want us.

Everything has its price and never let it be said that price doesn't include a healthy profit that meets with some banker's approval, including the commodity that we ourselves have been turned into in that process.

If someone isn't scheming to make a profit off some unexploited facet of our existence they're scheming to create some new found one in our minds simply so they can.

Sooner or later someone is going to figure out some optimum point where we are worth more dead to this system than we are alive and try to realize that last bit of profit taking too.

Average Americans, just like most average citizens in all of the so called western world, are up to their necks in debt for all the useless crap and junk they’ve surrounded themselves with that supposedly makes them better off than the all those starving and naked third-worlders, (never mind that it’s depreciating faster than they can ever pay for it), but it's really OK since their governments, the IMF and the World Bank are all making sure that that those needy beggars are just as badly in debt as they are even though they have nothing at all to show for it.

So very good of them to do that for us so we can sleep secure in our undisputed superiority at night and not have to look over our shoulders by day...hmmm?

To ever think to question just how things have come to be “ordained” this way.

The degree to which our minds have already been warped out of shape by this relentless consumerism that passes for life these days is simply staggering and there is nowhere to turn that we don't somehow come face to face with it.

It is, of course, all those baby boomers’ fault, not to drag in the parents who merely spawned them. They became cursed with the "Midas touch" almost right from the very outset. They represented a huge blank new page that appeared almost by magic in the corporate books upon which equally huge numbers could be written with an almost magical speed.

Anything those boomers took even a remote interest in, or affected them in the slightest, became an immediate source of fabulous wealth and fame for anyone enterprising enough to find some way to capitalize on it.

There've been sixty long years now of perfecting and refining all those techniques from capitalizing on those boomers and virtually any and every sub-group within them that are simply common practice used on everyone now. Everything from psychological brainwashing, manipulation or simple persuasion, all the way to the utter fabrication of completely bogus trends or invented ills and problems to use those psychological efforts on…and,of course, to make a hefty profit from them.

All of it refined and honed to a fine art with no amount of time, expense or energy ever being too much to pay for removing any nagging doubts or obfuscating any awareness of what is taking place.

“Perception is the only reality” in this new world order and if we harbor any hope of ever changing it in any way at all we shall have to begin with our own.

11/28/2006 11:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous One, for what it is worth,yesterday I happen too hear Gush Limbaa speaking about the spy that died issue.His take was we a now at war with the Russians again and that the commies are back in charge in the Kremlin,why doesn't anyone mention the fact that Putin has ten divisions on the border of Georgia ready to fight for the oil that is about to be stole from them? I also think this will boil down to culling the herd,there just isn't enough for all of us too have big screens in every house in the world,to bad,somebody has too die.Oh,I hope Mark Rich's name doesn't come poping up in this misadventure with the spy that died,later.

11/28/2006 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that was nothing short of fabulous, silverfox.

11/28/2006 12:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of russians suspiciously dropping like flies as of late, anyone catch the story of the russian billionaire in a car accident last saturday? Don't know if there's any relation but the litvenenko story has got my radar buzzing. Here's a link:

11/28/2006 12:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Swearengen said...

This whole discussion of Pianko is somewhat of a cannard, and only serves to detract from a discussion that must be had...

i don't mean to beat a broken drum here, but thats precisely what Dr. Pianko was doing. If you'll actually go read the link then you'll see that the gist of his lecture (and much of his work) is that if we (humans) don't get our population under control, then the bugs (ebola, flu, etc) will do it for us. Basically, its gonna happen...the only question is will it be chaotic or painfull (the bugs) or somewhat under control (ie ted turner's idea, or others like it).

I only mention it because its pretty cold to accuse a man of genocide (or advocating it) and then just leaving it at "whatever" with no chance of rebuttal...

Your Friendly Neighborhood Disinfo Agent

11/28/2006 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More evidence of America's slavish allegiance to the bottom line or something much more nefarious?

"From 1995 to 2001, Bogdan Dzakovic served as a team leader on the Federal Aviation Administration's Red Team. Set up by Congress to help the FAA think like terrorists, the elite squad tested airport security systems.

In the years leading up to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Dzakovic says, the team was able to breach security about 90% of the time, sneaking bombs and submachine guns past airport screeners. Expensive new bomb detection machines consistently failed, he says.

The team repeatedly warned the FAA of the potential for security breaches and hijackings but was told to cover up its findings, Dzakovic says.

Eventually, the FAA began notifying airports in advance when the Red Team would be doing its undercover testing, Dzakovic says. He and other Red Team members approached the Department of Transportation's Office of the Inspector General, the General Accounting Office and members of Congress about the FAA's alleged misconduct regarding the Red Team's aviation security tests. No one did anything, he says.

Then came 9/11.

"Immediately (after 9/11), numerous government officials from FAA as well as other government agencies made defensive statements such as, 'How could we have known this was going to happen?' " Dzakovic testified later before the 9/11 Commission. "The truth is, they did know."

About a month after 9/11, he filed a complaint with the Office of the Special Counsel, the government agency that investigates whistle-blower cases. It alleged that the FAA had covered up Red Team findings. A subsequent Department of Transportation Inspector General's report, ordered by the OSC in response to Dzakovic's complaint, concluded that the "Red Team program was grossly mismanaged and that the result was a serious compromise of public safety."

After filing his complaint, Dzakovic was removed from his Red Team leadership position. He now works for the Transportation Security Administration, which has responsibility for airport security. His primary assignments include tasks such as hole-punching, updating agency phonebooks and "thumb-twiddling," he says. At least he hasn't received a pay cut, he says. He makes about $110,000 a year for what he describes as "entry-level idiot work."

11/28/2006 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would I assassinate Litvinenko, yet allow Levado to expire from natural causes.


Obituary: Yuri Levada, a sociologist and pollster in Soviet Union and Russia

Yuri Levada, a sociologist and pollster whose surveys provided some of the most reliable information about public opinion in the Soviet Union and then Russia, died at his office in Moscow on Thursday. He was 76.

A colleague at the Levada Analytical Center, Leonid Sedov, told The Associated Press that the cause was a heart attack.

Levada's career had three distinct phases defined by power shifts at the Kremlin. He began his work in the mid- 1960s at the beginning of the Brezhnev era, conducting polls on a relatively wide range of subjects while avoiding questions about private property, religion and the Communist Party.

He encountered problems later in the decade when he ventured into more sensitive areas, like readers' opinions of the Soviet newspaper Pravda.

In 1969, he criticized the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia in his book "Lectures on Sociology" and was fired from his position at Moscow State University and barred from conducting further research.

Levada returned to his work during the glasnost period of Mikhail Gorbachev. In the late 1980s, he joined the All-Soviet Center for Public Opinion Studies, where he was allowed to directly question citizens about their political beliefs, attitudes toward communism and opinions of the government.

As Russia held its first elections after the collapse of the Soviet Union, he also began conducting American-style surveys of the Russian electorate to analyze voting patterns.

In 1992, Levada became the director of what was by then known as the All- Russian Center for Public Opinion Studies. Over the next decade, his surveys revealed popular discontent with the standard of living and the war in Chechnya, as well as the public's gloomy outlook on the future.

These polls, along with others showing a highly negative opinion of the governing party of President Vladimir Putin, eventually brought him into conflict with the authorities. In 2003, Putin moved to assert control over the center by placing his own representatives on its board of directors.

Faced with a loss of independence, Levada resigned and formed a private company, the Levada Analytical Center, which conducts research for clients including Russian, Georgian and Western organizations.

11/28/2006 01:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

silverfox, it sounds as if you're saying that those that have "made it" to the materialist top are simply stronger of will than the "rest of us"

are the rest of us just different shades of "bad", or are we just lacking in ambition? Or have the evils of "materialism" simply rendered the majority something machine-like in essence. A type of alienation Marx could never have imagined?

Great writing, silverfox, and i agree with much of it, but is it illegal to hope? Actions are surely useful, legal and otherwise you might say.

By the way, I agree - the whole Pianko quote in the RI post seems sketchy. what's up with that? or was it just a quick pull used to illustrate his larger point?

11/28/2006 02:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Silverfox, your comments were amazing. Every single word rang true and the truth hurts.
I am sorry this is off topic; but could someone tell me what song "floating in a most peculiar way" is from? I knew immediately that I had heard it before but I can't place it. Thanks.

11/28/2006 05:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Silverfox you get the Technocratic realist diploma FOR 06.

CIVIC VERITAS? the polity etc.
at least totalitarian movements engage the masses rather than just absorb them.

I marched against the war,bully for you but did you stop shopping or even god forbid break a law.

Stop global warming burn a banker!

11/28/2006 06:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ground Control To Major Tom

By David Bowie

Ground control to Major Tom Ground control to Major Tom:
Take your protein pills and put your helmet on
Ground control to Major Tom: Commencing countdown engine's on
Check ig-nition and may God's love be with you

This is ground control to Major Tom, you've really made the grade!
And the papers want to know whose shirts you wear,
Now it's time to leave the capsule if you dare

This is Major Tom to ground con-trol, I'm stepping through the door
And I'm floating in the most peculiar way
And the stars look very difeerent today

For here am I sitting in a tin can, far above the world
Planet Earth is blue and there's nothing I can do


Though I'm passed one hundred thousand miles, I'm feeling very still
And I think my spaceship knows which way to go,
tell my wife I love her very much she knows

Ground control to Major Tom:
Your circuit's dead, there's something wong.
Can you hear me Major Tom?
Can you hear me Major Tom?
Can you hear me Major Tom? Can you ...

Here am I floating round my tin can, far above the moon
Planet Earth is blue and there's nothing I can do

11/28/2006 06:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"floating in a most peculiar way"

Space Oddity - David Bowie

11/28/2006 06:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To anon 5:41

The line is from David Bowie's "Space Oddity":

"Ground control to major tom
Ground control to major tom
Take your protein pills and put your helmet on

"Ground control to major tom
Commencing countdown, engines on
Check ignition and may gods love be with you

"Ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five,
Four, three, two, one, liftoff

"This is ground control to major tom
Youve really made the grade
And the papers want to know whose shirts you wear
Now its time to leave the capsule if you dare

"This is major tom to ground control
Im stepping through the door
And Im floating in a most peculiar way
And the stars look very different today

"For here
Am I sitting in a tin can
Far above the world
Planet earth is blue
And theres nothing I can do

"Though Im past one hundred thousand miles
Im feeling very still
And I think my spaceship knows which way to go
Tell me wife I love her very much she knows

"Ground control to major tom
Your circuits dead, theres something wrong
Can you hear me, major tom?
Can you hear me, major tom?
Can you hear me, major tom?
Can you....

"Here am I floating round my tin can
Far above the moon
Planet earth is blue
And theres nothing I can do."
The same thing happened to me... I googled it and instantly thought "Of course!" It has been in head ever since.

11/28/2006 06:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

stop a banker burn the globe!

11/28/2006 06:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great minds think alike.

11/28/2006 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Playstation 2 and the internet blog
A different kind of grog

unreal, mass appeal
the individual on a fly reel

where will it cast itself today
what oedipal doppleganger will hold its sway

love the passion, grand moff texan..."like a leper messiah, ziggy sucked up into his mind, ahhhhhhhhhhhhh"

11/28/2006 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ooh - let's play pop quiz instead!


11/28/2006 08:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Argentine (1976 military coup) torture survivor Victor Basterra:

"I always thought some of us survivors were an error of the system," Basterra said of the 200 who made it out.

Speaking of the woman in the building with the bomb who was spared...

and all your eggs in one basket.

11/28/2006 08:37:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Stunning syllogism, Silverfox, but it ain't over yet, 'cuz we ain't all bad guys. The one weakness is your contention that there are no good guys, when, in fact, there's lots of us, doing all kinds of interesting things that the owners don't want you to know about. Here's a few, just off the top of my pointy head:

Paul Hawken's Natural Capitalism. I know it sounds oxymoronic, but even diehard socialists like me can appreciate what these cats are cooking up here:

The WISER Projects: WiserEarth & WiserBusiness

WISER [World Index for Social and Environmental Responsibility] will become the world’s most extensive, accessible, and transparent body of knowledge enabling the transformation to a restorative economy.

WISER’s open source platform will create the space for the private sector, civil society, and government to collaboratively address and solve social and environmental problems. This powerful tool for social change, that combines the accurate and efficient search capabilities of a relational database with real-time community editing features, is at the core of the sister sites WiserEarth—connecting social and environmentally focused non-profits worldwide, and WiserBusiness—guiding companies of all sizes toward responsible business practices.

WiserEarth will be a comprehensive directory and toolbox to link the largest and fastest growing movement in the world — the hundreds of thousands of organizations within civil society that address social justice, poverty, and the environment. It will foster collaboration by providing tools to help organizations become aware of and more accessible to one another, and create visibility by allowing the whole, parts and diversity of the movement to be literally seen in real time. WiserEarth is performing a soft launch to all collaborating organizations in Fall 2006, and will launch publicly in Spring 2007.

WiserBusiness will become the knowledge base upon which a national standard of responsible business behavior is founded, and cared for by the wider community. It will hone and standardize the criteria determining responsible business behavior, link customers‚ social and environmental priorities directly to companies via consumer feedback and company evaluation mechanisms, and supply companies with the latest solutions. WiserBusiness is an initial founder of the Sustainability Information Commons, a network of contributors creating a common-pool resource of sustainability-focused information.

And then there's Paul's other project, the blockbuster:

Blessed Unrest Documentary Film
Paul Hawken’s book Blessed Unrest about sustainable civil society will be published on Earth Day 2007, by Viking Press, and a feature length documentary film based on the book is under development. Both explore the history and nature of what Hawken believes is the biggest movement in the history of humanity, its rate of growth, and why this unnamed movement is largely unrecognized, even by itself. It is estimated that organizations working on social justice, ecological and indigenous issues have exceed one million worldwide and involve direct participation by over 100 million individuals who in turn affect the lives of most of the worlds’ people. It is a vast coalescence of organizations with no center, codified beliefs, or charismatic leader. Rather than seeking dominance, it strives to disperse concentrations of power. Knowing its weakness, it creates innovative tactics to leverage itself. Rather than control, it seeks connection. The movement can’t be divided because it is splintered and atomized, “small pieces, loosely joined.” Large as it is, no one knows its size, especially those in power. It brings down governments, companies, and leaders through witnessing, informing, and massing. It provides hope, support, and meaning to billions of people in the world. Its clout resides in its ideas, not in force. Think of the biggest movements in the history of humankind, and then multiply by a thousand.

And then there are the architects with conscience:
Architecture 2030 Challenges Architects to Reduce Energy Use (Great, great environmental flash intro.)

And architects with activism:

Prison Design Boycott Campaign

It is time to stop building prisons.
Our prison system is both a devastating moral blight on our society and an overwhelming economic burden on our tax dollars, taking away much needed resources from schools, health care and affordable housing. The prison system is corrupting our society and making us more threatened, rather than protecting us as its proponents claim. It is a system built on fear, racism, and the exploitation of poverty. Our current prison system has no place in a society that aspires to liberty, justice, and equality for all.

As architects, we are responsible for one of the most expensive parts of the prison system, the construction of new prison buildings. Almost all of us would rather be using our professional skills to design positive social institutions such as universities or playgrounds, but these institutions lack funding because of spending on prisons. If we would rather design schools and community centers, we must stop building prisons.

Please join members of Architects / Designers / Planners for Social Responsibility (ADPSR) in pledging to not participate in the design, construction, or renovation of prisons. We also invite you to learn more about the prison system, to join us in envisioning more just and productive alternatives to incarceration, and to work towards a society that treats all its members with dignity, equality, and justice.

Finally, for now, there's the Living Foods Movement, with some eye-opening information on how we could become healthy, of all things.

You see, Silverfox, we could fix this damn thing, and we will, as long as we don't let the level of our despair blind us to the "magic" of the imagination.

11/29/2006 02:04:00 AM  
Blogger Big Gav said...

I'm glad to see an old socialist can learn some new tricks Cuttlefish.

Conspiracies or no (sorry to be an agnostic amongst the believers here), the best way to fix the system of what ails it is to reform it from the bottom up.

Free markets can be used for good things as well as bad - and harnessing libertarian dislike of monopolists and cartels is much more in tune with the times than trying to fight the battles of a century ago once more...

11/29/2006 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks to all who answered my question. Space Oddity. I should have known. It was driving me nuts! I still love Bowie.
We've got five years
Stuck on my eyes
We've got five years
What a surprise
We've got five years
my brain hurts ALOT
Five years, thats all we got

11/29/2006 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


"The forecast calls for destruction tonight, death for tomorrow, and
Armageddon by the weekend. This could be the end of life as we know it"

Cold steel, surgical dissection of memories lost to plague
Lay to waste the newly spawned
Our existence here has been dead and gone
Blood drenched nihilistic slaves, iniquity guides their path
Furthest point from purity reached to death
We're last!!!
Once surreal dreams came true, smothered in a slumber unknown
Caustic, blinding, bleeding, light, choke a last breath and die
Exiled to a prison wall of death, placed by the hand of fate
The madness of oppression onset, insight has now been plagued
Counter creature now exposed, beast of madness and loss
Blood drenched nihilistic slaves, iniquity guides their path
Incessant depletion of life, loss becomes our way
Negativity carries us on and shall carry our carcass away
Bleeding, dreaming, conceding to crush ourselves
Lose regard for self-worth, fear no pain or wrath
Extract yourself
For all the bleeding, dreaming, conceding to crush ourselves
Lose regard for self-worth, fear no pain or wrath
Extract yourself corruption of our vision, blinding indecision
A black interpretation of our souls
Last expression, vast introspection yields a dissection of my soul
Cold steel, surgical dissection of memories lost to plague
Lay to waste the newly spawned
Our existence here has been dead and gone
Furthest point from purity reached to death
We're last!!!

Extermination Of My Filthy Species

Vision of apocalyptic extermination
Pathetic squealing human beings
Forcing the caustic destruction of everything perceived
Burning Cleansing Ending Human Existence
Standing in the midst of what existed, blowing away the ashes of humanity.
Chorus of billions of voices cry out in agony
Last one standing in the blackened dawn of a new era
Masterminding the omnipotent extermination of my own filthy species
Purifying and purging the rotten loveless ore
Resurrected in indefinitive form
Vision of apocalyptic extermination
Burning Cleansing Ending Human Existence
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, standing in the mist watching it all burn



11/29/2006 02:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bye tau way of dexiphering the gould guize two the badding buch thys wash handy:

And water obot the boy-belly kiss in the square? Putin wz srenduring a message, or kasting a spell, perhaps?
I have herd it expresst hear thaht some sore t'of quantum opinion leap is neycisary to overturn the oligarchy.
Will we have to rely on spontaneous quantum wave collapse oriound ah-hamorphios event -wheel no it win wee cease it-?
Zima unlikey- rather dan thrush to Good a vLeadirm will demurge win he is mneedled?

12/01/2006 10:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jerome Kern says we ought to check out the skin mags .;.. :

McVeigh Video Destroys OKC Bombing Official Story

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