Tuesday, January 16, 2007

We Are Family

They say prayer has the power to heal
So pray for me, mother
In the human heart an evil spirit can dwell
I'm a-tryin' to love my neighbor and do good unto others
But oh mother, things ain't going well - Bob Dylan

The Manson Mythos, sad to say, seems endlessly relevant.

In The Shadow Over Santa Susana, author Adam Gorightly quotes Preston Guillory, a Los Angeles County deputy sheriff at the time of the Tate-LaBianca slayings, in conversation with Paul Krassner. Guillory shares this revelation:

A few weeks prior to the Spahn Ranch raid, we were told that we weren't to arrest Manson or any of his followers. We had a sheaf of memos on Manson - that they had automatic weapons at the ranch, that citizens had complained about hearing machine guns at night, that firemen from the local fire station had been accosted by armed members of Manson's band and told to get out of the area. Deputies started asking, "Why aren't we gonna make the raid sooner?" I mean, Manson's a parole violator, we know there's narcotics and booze. He's living at the ranch with bunch of minor girls in complete violation of his parole. Deputies at the station quite frankly became very annoyed that no action was being taken about Manson....

Now here's the kicker. Before the Tate killings he had been arrested at Malibu twice for statutory rape. Never got [imprisoned for parole violation]. Manson liked to ball young girls, so he just did his thing and he was released, and they didn't put any parole on him. But somebody very high up was controlling everything that was going on and was seeing to it that we didn't bust Manson.

Manson was left alone, Guillory told Krassner, because "something big was coming down." Krasnner asked "Why were you given such an order?" to which Guillory replied "I don't know. We didn't question our superiors." Krassner pressed: "Did you at least speculate as to the reason?" Yes, Guillory conceded: "Oh, we just figured they were gonna kill Black Panthers."

We were getting intelligence briefings that Manson was anti-black and he had supposedly killed a Black Panther. Manson was a very ready tool, apparently, because he did have some racial hatred and he wanted to vent it. But they hadn't anticipated him attacking someone other than the Panthers.

There's a lot of that these days, though much less speculative than Guillory's thoughts and several orders of degree more complicit. "No one could have imagined them taking a plane" and crashing it into the World Trade Center. No one could have foreseen the severity of Katrina. "No one anticipated the level of violence" in Iraq. But it's irrelevant here whether the celebrity Scientologist went off script or stayed on mission. The point is that Manson and his followers were untouched before the killings because authorities anticipated mayhem, not because they didn't, and for whatever reason they wanted to see some blood shed. In this respect, and almost certainly without suspecting it, the family became an undeputized branch of the LA County Sheriff's Department.

Early in his you ain't seen nothin' yet speech of last week, George Bush sited the bombing of Samarra's Golden Mosque as the principal trigger event for Iraq's sectarian violence: "Al Qaeda terrorists and Sunni insurgents recognized the mortal danger that Iraq's elections posed for their cause, and they responded with outrageous acts of murder aimed at innocent Iraqis. They blew up one of the holiest shrines in Shia Islam — the Golden Mosque of Samarra — in a calculated effort to provoke Iraq's Shia population to retaliate. Their strategy worked." Yet even though they never made America's front page, there were always compelling reasons to suspect a different calculus, and other hands on the trigger. For instance, Kurt Nimmo noted that "at least two witnesses saw 'unusual activities by the Iraqi National Guard in the area around the mosque.' Two mosque guards reported four men in ING uniforms had blindfolded them and planted explosives. A second witness, Muhammad al-Samarrai, the owner of an internet cafe in the area, was told to stay in his store and not leave the area. From 11 pm until 6:30 am, ten minutes before two bombs were detonated, the area surrounding the mosque was patrolled by 'joint forces of Iraqi ING and Americans,' according to al-Samarrai."

In April 2004 Michael Karem, then special adviser to Paul Bremer, voiced concern over the exceptional corruption and thuggish sectarianism of Bayan Jabr, the Shia Minister for Housing and Construction in Iraq's Coalition Provisional Authority pajama parliament. A few days after composing a memo detailing his concern, Karem and senior aide Robert Clay were called to a meeting with the CPA's deputy administrator, Vice Admiral Scott Redd. "We were thrilled at the end of the meeting," said Karem. "Everybody was shaking their head about the corruption. They said that they were going to get rid of the minister."

But something else happened, because some else - somebody very high up, to borrow Guillory's words - had other plans:

Days later, he and Clay were asked to return to Redd's office. They walked in expecting to hear that Jabr had been fired. Instead they were told that their services with the CPA were as of that moment terminated; the minister would stay on. “We were told that we had lost effectiveness because we couldn't work with the minister,” Karem recalled. “We were in shock.”

Jabr was promoted to Minister of the Interior and, according to Harper's Ken Silverstein, his appointment "corresponds almost precisely" to the rise of Iraq's death squads. (A coincidence doubled-up soon after by the arrival of the Death Squad's own Goodwill Ambassador, John Negroponte, as the next Green Zone bully boy.)

Of course the Golden Mosque and Bayan Jabr are already old stories by the measures of Iraq's dissolution and our own time's seeming acceleration, but almost daily new filigrees of outrage are added to them. In Baghdad's latest "pacification" campaign, government-backed militias are withholding food and preventing the evacuation of wounded, while US troops make no effort to intervene. "This military siege is killing us," said Sunni Abu Sady. "The Americans are doing nothing, as if they are backing the militias."

It was evident even before the invasion that the war's intention included making a failed state of Iraq. That that's not yet conventional wisdom shows just how much too many still want to believe bad policy is made in good faith. As Keith Gottschalk gingerly asked Canada's mainstream left last week:

...isn't it even barely possible, although it seems mad, that everything that has happened in Iraq, this “progressive destructive chaos,” has been the plan from the get-go and that civil war was not only expected but hoped for? If you must rule a people or a nation for the benefit of their natural resources and geopolitical value, would it not be a possible tactic to allow them to destroy themselves first without committing too many of your own people to the effort?

Was Bush's speech, as Xymphora speculated, code to enact a Sunni genocide? Will the atrocity about to fall upon Iran become a Shia holocaust? I think the vision from the White House is grander than either proposition. There's a Mansonic logic at play here, and it's been playing since Bush's first stolen election.

Despite multiple offenses and parole violations, Spahn Ranch wasn't raided before Tate-LaBianca because the police were expressly told they should not arrest Manson or his followers. Despite the grievous injuries they've inflicted upon the nation and the constitution, George Bush and Dick Cheney will not be impeached because Democrats have elected, for some reason, to take impeachment "off the table." Like an unmolested Manson sending his family on "creepy crawly" burglaries of canyon homes Bush will not be stopped by the law, because behind the law are the gods of Helter Skelter who are not yet finished with him. As Guillory said of Manson, so Bush is "a very ready tool" who currently enjoys the unprecedented and seemingly unaccountable permission to do the unthinkable. And because he can, something big is coming down.

Only after his chaotic work is done and the last doorpost daubed in gore may he be brought low. Not to justice, because American presidents never are, but perhaps to a singular injustice that has sometimes made their acquaintance. Until then, he may as well tell us as another Texan reportedly did, "I am the devil, and I am here to do the devil's business."


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fascinating.....as always.....thank you :-)

1/16/2007 03:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff....I eagerly await your book. How
far along are you?

1/16/2007 03:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff wrote: 'Like an unmolested Manson sending his family on "creepy crawly" burglaries of canyon homes Bush will not be stopped by the law, because behind the law are the gods of Helter Skelter who are not yet finished with him.'



Noted by William Blum in his latest:

"I trust God speaks through me," said Bush the younger in 2004. "Without that, I couldn't do my job." *

* Washington Post, July 20, 2004, p.15, statement attributed to President Bush in the Lancaster (Pa.) New Era newspaper from a private meeting with Amish families on July 9. The White House later said Bush said no such thing.


Dennis Kucinich, progressive Demo leader, complicit as the rest. From Raw Story, Miriam Raftery, Sunday January 14, 2007, "Democratic presidential candidate Kucinich warns, 'If Bush attacks Iran, all bets are off' ":

"...Bloggers pressed Kucinich about the impeachment issue. While agreeing that the administration should ultimately be held accountable under international law, Kucinich opposed immediate impeachment proceedings. 'We must keep the focus on our troops,' Kucinich said. 'The minute impeachment is on the table, this President will accelerate the war even more.'"

1/16/2007 03:45:00 AM  
Blogger nolocontendere said...

Jeebus that's good stuff.
I've been hammering away at this for some time also. To understand what's going on there and what kind of future we and the Iraqis have, americans must grasp the underlying chaotic intentions of our overlords.

1/16/2007 03:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Three words for you:

"Divide And Conquer"

America is an Empire. America, like all empires, is using ruthless methods, including genocide, to maintain its power.

What else is new? Civilization and Technology, that steaming pile of shit, is just a way to kill people faster and more efficiently.

Although UK Royal Marines has this to say about American Imperial Troops: "We shoot once to kill a man. They use a whole clip and hope they have hit something".

Imperial, Psychopathic AND Inefficient. Not a good combination.

1/16/2007 05:02:00 AM  
Blogger brainpanhandler said...

Jeff said, "It was evident even before the invasion that the war's intention included making a failed state of Iraq. That that's not yet conventional wisdom shows just how much too many still want to believe bad policy is made in good faith."

Just yesterday I had an argument with a fellow that was of the opinion that the antiwar democrats in the US are undermining our efforts in Iraq. He made an analogy between the war in Iraq and World War II. He asked what would have happened in World War II if half the country was opposed to going to war? When I pointed out that Iraq never threatened us, let alone attacked us, he responded by asking, "What about 911?" I should not be surpirsed by this sort of thing anymore, but my jaw hit the floor just the same.

This is how far away many are from understanding the real intentions of the current administration and it's minions. I think it is probably a very small percentage of the American population that recognizes that one of the intents from the beginning of the economic sanctions, really, was to create a failed state. Americans are suspicious of their government to the point of paranoia, but nonetheless not very savvy analysts of global events nor very well versed in even recent history.

Nation Building is code for mass brainwashing. What we are doing to the citzens of Iraq is at least partially an enormous experiment in PTSD modality mind control. How are a bunch of mind control slaves supposed to wake up and recognize the very process that enslaved them being used on others?

1/16/2007 05:09:00 AM  
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1/16/2007 06:10:00 AM  
Blogger Peter M said...

If there is any incredulity as to the sublime obviousness of our intentions to splinter Iraq, simply consult the writings of Peter Gowan and Tariq Ali to learn how this very same template was used to shatter Yugoslavia in the 90`s. We`ve gone from the Lebonization of Yugoslavia to the Balkanization of Iraq--it`s quite a blatant pattern.
I trust most of us can see through the propaganda machine`s most shamelessly repeated talking point: that the Iraqi Shi`a are the radical driving force behind the death squads. I would consult consortiumnews, whatreallyhappened, counterpunch, zmag and some of their ilk for some reportage that actually makes any sense whatsoever.
not only does the interior ministry employ `police brigades` of all stripes, regardless of religious affiliation, but the IM is as closely advised by US psychos as Manson was by the same programmers who nurtured the SLA in prison. a certain colonel Steele and similar persons who cut their teeth during the counter-insurgency bloodbaths of Vietnam, Nicaragua, Guatemala, El Salvador, etc. were inserted into all departments of the bourgeoning iraqi security state by the same mr. paul bremer who chose to lacerate their economy with the full complement of hard-line neo-liberal reforms.
but to concede too much to the Interior Ministry is a mistep which buys into the prevailing myths of the day. the fact is that regardless of religious or clan affiliations, Iraq`s best fighters have been promoted from all services into an elite `special force` attached directly to the National Security Council known as the Facilities Protection Service. these are the units which form the cutting edge of the most ruthless commando action frequently attributed to the slightly more visible `police brigades.` and if the Interior Ministry is closely advised by our own blooded counter-insurgency specialists, you can bet that the National Security Council and Maliki`s goons are all the more wired into the center-most circuits of unaccountable black-ops and false-flag operations.

1/16/2007 06:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous One,just have to wonder who gave chucky the high grade cid?Some how it all goes back to MKULTRA sooner or later,or are these guys just good old nazies.It is to the point where no one can tell,but with your regular joes just standing around doing just what there told,thinking nothing is wrong,well we are fucked.The Hand of Death cult will continue to thrive,just keep watching the swinging watch folks,everything is fine,later.

1/16/2007 06:51:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Jeff, I am surprised that your writing does not get spread around the internet more. It is three cuts above any other writing that I see. I suppose the woo-woo factor is involved here. We will lessen this factor as we find better shape for our new criteria for understanding.

Beliefs are an issue worthy of deeper examination. The cops believed their superiors and good citizens have a hard time believing that their leaders are intentionally corrupt.

These beliefs tie us by resonance, to various discarnate entities. These demons seem to be quite invested in maintaining a fixed relationship to their hosts. If your beliefs change, they have to find a new home. And nobody really likes to move.

1/16/2007 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After a long talk late last night with a new friend, the enormity of the evil of our government became astounding. The issue becomes for me "how does this impact a personal life"? One courts paranoia, depression and madness when old comforting beliefs are replaced by harsh new beliefs. Trying to live a good life in the spectre of evil puppetmasters becomes remarkably comparable to first century Jews and Greeks under Roman rule, those who converted to Gnosticism, the belief that nothing can stop the horror of the world as it was created by a demi-urge, not the true source. Gnosticism is by no coincidence, in a resurgence. To oppose the puppetmaster violently only gives them more power, according to some white magic schools of thought.

Some Gnostics believed a messiah was imminent to rescue the world. My beliefs are two- "twas ever thus" at least since empire and probably before, and we are not only of this world, we don't die and freedom is in the mind, which is greater and stranger than imagined and just a part of soul.

Or something like that.

Jeff, thanks for all your hard work. Spreading information is our true hope.

1/16/2007 07:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The LAPD, FBI and CIA are corrupt precisely because of the fact they have been in involved in so many rotten coverups (assasinations of JFK, MLK, RFK, the 9/11 and Oklahoma City bombings). Imbedded deep inside these agencies are enablers who will secretly do any thing in order to further the interests of their "Klan."

And it is hard to weed them out because they are basically secret societies WITHIN secret societies.

1/16/2007 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Look up in the Sky

The astrological significance of comets has been the subject of much study, but so far no definite conclusions have been reached.

"When beggars die there are no comets seen; The heavens themselves blaze forth the death of princes." - Shakespeare.

The year of F. D. Roosevelt's birth was also marked by the appearance of one of the brightest comets of record, which was visible in broad daylight - even at noon.

WIKIPEDIA: They were usually considered bad omens of deaths of kings or noble men, or coming catastrophes.


1/16/2007 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ya really should've replaced the faces of "The Devil's Rejects" with Condi, Cheney & W on that photoshop job.

1/16/2007 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As everyone knows, no country is a believable enemy until we first arm them:


"WASHINGTON - The U.S. military has sold forbidden equipment at least a half-dozen times to middlemen for countries — including
Iran and China — who exploited security flaws in the Defense Department's surplus auctions. The sales include fighter jet parts and missile components.

In one case, federal investigators said, the contraband made it to Iran, a country
President Bush branded part of an "axis of evil."

In that instance, a Pakistani arms broker convicted of exporting U.S. missile parts to Iran resumed business after his release from prison. He purchased Chinook helicopter engine parts for Iran from a U.S. company that had bought them in a
Pentagon surplus sale. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, speaking on condition of anonymity, say those parts made it to Iran.

The surplus sales can operate like a supermarket for arms dealers.

"Right Item, Right Time, Right Place, Right Price, Every Time. Best Value Solutions for America's Warfighters," the Defense Reutilization and Marketing Service says on its Web site, calling itself "the place to obtain original U.S. Government surplus property."

Federal investigators are increasingly anxious that Iran is within easy reach of a top priority on its shopping list: parts for the precious fleet of F-14 "Tomcat" fighter jets the United States let Iran buy in the 1970s when it was an ally.

In one case, convicted middlemen for Iran bought Tomcat parts from the Defense Department's surplus division. Customs agents confiscated them and returned them to the Pentagon, which sold them again — customs evidence tags still attached — to another buyer, a suspected broker for Iran.

That incident appalled even an expert on weaknesses in Pentagon surplus security controls.

"That would be evidence of a significant breakdown, in my view, in controls and processes," said Greg Kutz, the
Government Accountability Office's head of special investigations. "It shouldn't happen the first time, let alone the second time."

A Defense Department official, Fred Baillie, said his agency followed procedures."

Ah, the naivete of Mr. Kutz & the unintentional honesty of Mr. Baillie, eh?
It's too bad that they don't let the rest of us get a peak at those "procedures."
Then we'd start to see the real enemy.
Although, as brainpanhandler pointed out, Americans would probably still be too damn stupified to recognize their own reflection even if the mirror was bail-wired to their faces.

"And the beat goes on."

1/16/2007 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From Congressman Ron Paul's speech yesterday:

"The talk of a troop surge and jobs program in Iraq only distracts Americans from the very real possibility of an attack on Iran. Our growing naval presence in the region and our harsh rhetoric toward Iran are unsettling... Yet these developments are almost totally ignored by Congress.

Rumors are flying about when, not if, Iran will be bombed by either Israel or the U.S. – possibly with nuclear weapons. Our CIA says Iran is ten years away from producing a nuclear bomb and has no delivery system, but this does not impede our plans to keep “everything on the table” when dealing with Iran."


Impeaching Mad Heironymos is OFF the table, but bombing Iran into "submission" (HA!--take that double-entendre, Moslem yoghurt-quaffers) is ON the table.

Some table. Like an altar of satan.

But why worry about that? The NYT's yesterday


referenced scientists who say that we could be losing as much as 80 cubic tonnes of sea ice a year--more than is contained in all the glaciers of Europe! At the accelerating rate now being identified, sea levels could rise a foot in 10 years.

Water to wash away our crimes.

And BTW, did you know that a Helter Skelter is a British amusement park ride, a spiral slide built in a tower ("When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide...")?

We're all in the funhouse now. Look! the distorting lenses are being tuned to maximum effect.

1/16/2007 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not only the beat, Richard, but the beatings, as well.

It's nothing that a Consciousness Be-In can't cure though...right, Richard?

Here's the problem I have with that. Is jello pudding conscious? I'm sure some who post here could rationalize that it does, but I'm sticking with the supposition that it doesn't. Considering that, a Consciousness Be-In comprised of jello pudding pops is merely dessert for the perpetual banquet/feast we call life.

Quick....duck (a l'Orange) and cover...here comes IC.

1/16/2007 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We're all in the funhouse now. Look! the distorting lenses are being tuned to maximum effect."

Have you seen the latest called Warrior Nation? It's about a lovely couple (male and female, presumably, although the woman could pass for a man which leads me to believe the man who married this so-called woman has yet to deal with his latent homosexuality) who are both Extreme Fighters and they occasionally like to square off on one another, as well.

Mad Max (our friend, Gibson, again) wasn't that far off, was it? If you put it out there as a fantastical future, it seems apparent that at some point it can manifest as a potential future...and then, eventually, the future.

Except in regards to positive outcomes....they're no fun and they don't activate the reptilian reflex.

1/16/2007 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, an iceberg hit my head.

That should have said "80 cubic miles," not tonnes.


To the poster who noted:

"Imperial, Psychopathic AND Inefficient. Not a good combination."

Yes, but probably better than Imperial, psychopathic and EFFICIENT.


Helter Skelter, at least in the American, non-amusement park sense, has come to mean chaos, madness...the perfect building blocks with which to fabricate this devil's doppelganger that they call order.

It is an order enforced not by human custom and arrangement, but by fear, and fear alone.

The people are benumbed, and have lost the ability to articulate what real "order" is. We still have peaceable streets and stores, yes, and a semblance of civil law. But "order," in the sense of a system headed by a leader who knows and appreciates his place in the human drama, and who works to achieve good?

Hardly. Our leader is a spoilt, sociopathic brat, mentally deficient, utterly under the sway of amoral, power-mad criminals.

The "order" being bolted down upon us is the order, quite clearly, of Winston's Airstrip One, of Lenin's Russia and Hitler's Germany. Built not upon codified human law, but upon an unbridled will to power.

Certain to fail.

1/16/2007 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do, Shrub?

You do know that we're unleashing a shitstorm by talking to each other don't you?

Oh well, like I always say, 'Who gives a fuck?'

Personally Shrub, I think we live in a country filled with jello pudding pops.
Just look at how quickly American spines quiver & melt whenever anyone turns the heat up.

All of those much loved ideals like freedom truth & justice get quickly shoved in the paper shredder in favor of a quick unsustainable thermostat adjustment. Which, quite coincidentally of course, makes the heat burn higher in the long run.

Then you have those 34,000+ Iraqis killed last year alone. With another 36,000+ wounded What's that come to anyway? About 23 WTC attacks?
That's a lot of human cordwood to feed that jello pudding pop melting bonfire that's on the American horizon.
But, fear not, Tony Snow is on the job.

"It's 100-percent obvious that the civilian casualty numbers are way too high," spokesman Tony Snow told reporters as US
President George W. Bush was poised to meet with new UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.

Snow said the death toll reflected "deliberate activity on the part of terrorists to try to use civilian deaths as a way not merely to push the United States out but to allow them to gain traction within

Yep. It's them terrorist fuckers, alright.
Like all good comedians, Mr. Snow should follow that punch-line with, "And if ya believe that, I'll tell ya another."

"Evil hearts
In dark places.
Now I find them
In familiar faces.

I've got to go because
something's on my mind
& it won't get better
no matter how hard I try."

1/16/2007 10:54:00 AM  
Blogger AJ said...

Excellent Jeff.
Richard how is my northern neighbor? Getting any ice?
I believe in the last stages of the Roman Empire, their vision of conquering pagans(countrydwellers)in an effort to "civilize" them gave way to conquering them to save the money flows into Rome.

Alas nothing is new under the sun.

Shrub, you old doggie stop-welcome back!

1/16/2007 11:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AJ, all I can say is, ice, what ice?

Here in PA the temperature, until today that is, hasn't dropped below 45.
This is looking like 'the year that winter stayed away,'

Quite disappointing.

I pity my kids. Stuck in school with no possiblity of a snow day school cancellation. It has to suck.
I prefer the huge snowstorms of the past. It always seemed right & totally natural.
The extended Fall season we've been having just feels utterly weird.

So, was that a longer answer than you actually wanted?

1/16/2007 11:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

41. The Empire is the institution, the codification, of derangement; it is insane and imposes its insanity on us by violence, since its nature is a violent one.

42. To fight the Empire is to be infected by its derangement. This is a paradox: whoever defeats a segment of the Empire becomes the Empire; it proliferates like a virus, imposing its form on its enemies. Thereby it becomes its enemies.


1/16/2007 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I man I used to work for used to say he didn't mind if someone stole from him, because it was usually something small, and if they started getting confident that they could steal something small, they would get it in their heads to steal something BIG.... and then, THEN, he would GET THE BASTARD! GET "EM GOOD! You're sentence about impeachment being 'off the table' reminded me of that man, and his lust for making criminals STRONGER, so, when they got arrested, there would be no question to the mans theivery, you know?

1/16/2007 12:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You do know that we're unleashing a shitstorm by talking to each other don't you?

Oh, I know. The defenders of Sweetened Gelatin get unnerved when the Richard/Shrub blow torch reality check comes too close to the product.

By the way, I do agree with Jeff's assessment, if only because it was always my assessment. I stated as much on this board and another board I belonged to before being banned for telling a guy his mother wasn't a Catholic if she didn't subscribe to the Church's edicts. It was an Atheist Forum (ironically enough) called Internet Infidels, and they would unmercifully crucify the majority of folks here for their beliefs. They are very conspiracy averse in that so-called on-line community. I was continuously sliced and diced for holding the view that 911 didn't go down as purported to have gone down.

Controlled Chaos trumps Uncontrolled Order.......that's the philosophy.

1/16/2007 01:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our schools should teach kids how to identify and minimize the effect of the 4% of the population who are sociopaths, how to understand money and live within a budget and how to think critically.

Heck, everyone should learn how to identify and minimize the effect of a minority of crazy people in power - these crazy people can't help themselves - they are mentally sick. I hope the 90% majority keeps working to remove the crazies from positions of power until our society gets better at identifying the crazies BEFORE they get into power.

1/16/2007 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger RobertS said...

The power of state legislators in the United States to initiate impeachment of the federal executive
appears to be coming into play.

"A New Mexico state legislator is sponsoring a resolution to impeach Bush and Cheney. His name is Gerald Ortiz y Pino; jortizyp@aol.com"

Kucinich's "focus on the troops" comment is befuddling, and his prediction that impeachment would "accelerate" war prompts questions:

The obvious one is: says who?

Also,is it the case that a (nuclear?) war on Iran that is waged via a less hasty process is preferable to a more hurried attack?

Or does Kucinich mean to imply that there is no appropriate time to remove the criminally insane from power, lest some evil they are brewing be "accelerated"?

If this is not implied, what congruence of vile circumstance would be sufficiently safe to warrant impeachment.

William L. Shirer, in the "The Nightmare Years, 1930-1940", briefly describes the intended 1938 coup led by German army chief of staff Franz Halder against Hitler. The plotters appear to have been primarily motivated by two concerns: that attacking Czechoslovakia would lead to a larger war that would be lost; that Hitler and the Nazis were bad for Germany. The plotters decided that in order for their effort to succeed, they would need the co-operation of especially the British, and so they made considerable and even desperate effort to inform and sound out and receive assurances that they considered essential from the British. But the British leadership under Chamberlain essentially yawned, hummed and hawed suspiciously, then decided that talking with Hitler some more was the right thing to do. I mean, why hurry to initiate mildly dangerous dramatics when one could instead chew some more fat with 'honest Adolf'?

1/16/2007 02:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff... terribly fascinating insights!! Thank you.

1/16/2007 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What more can or even needs to be said beyond the simple and well documented fact that more than 80% of all the hospital beds in the US are now occupied by people with mental disorders?

Or that despite the inability of vast and exponentially growing numbers of people to adequately cope with the vagaries of modern life, mental "dis-ease" is never suspected or even questioned untill well after some desperate or even clearly deranged act has finally wreaked some utterly horrific and irreparable harm upon either themselves or others?

Or that even when such fantastic horrors inevitably occur every concievable effort is made to prosecute and punish first and foremost with a test of mental competancy no more demanding than knowing your right foot from your left and no regard whatsoever for which one any individual has consistently put forward first, let alone "why?" they have...hmmm?

Manson was only 33 when those infamous murders took place and he had already spent more than half of that lifetime behind bars.

Even under the best or most optimistic of conditions his ability to cope with the outside world was never more than the dramatically failed first 16 years of it that had already amply proved he couldn't.

He was so intensely fearfull of himself and what he might do he repeatedly pleaded with the authorities to keep him behind bars before his last fatefull outing, yet no one listened despite the storms of vicious and uncontrolled violence he had displayed in custody or his altogether unnatural sense of calm both before and after them.

Might we not ask if otherwise ordinary Americans or the system under which they live has any genuine concept of "sanity" at all under such circumstances, or if the matter is even of any real concern for either?

So how long might it actually take before the normalization and rationalization of such pathological behavior utimately becomes the defining characteristic of their society?

Or the equally unwitting acceptance of all its countless lesser forms simply become the "inevitable" way of life for them as well?

Such questions are of course rhetorical at this point. That time is now and anyone looking back can see from the Manson case it's had all the subtlety and directness of a freight train in its final approach.

1/16/2007 03:24:00 PM  
Blogger ftr23532 said...

Here's a piece of interesting info related to Sunni-Shia conflict: It turns out that the Iranian ayatollahs that carried out the Iranian Revolution emerged out of what was basically a Shia branch of the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood (which, itself, has a long history of intelligence connections) Here's an excerpt from a MoJo article by Robert Dreyfuss:
Over the four decades after Ramadan's visit to the Oval Office, the Muslim Brotherhood would become the organizational sponsor for generation after generation of Islamist groups from Saudi Arabia to Syria, Geneva to Lahore—and Ramadan, its chief international organizer, would turn up, Zeliglike, as an operative in virtually every manifestation of radical political Islam. The hardcore Islamists of Pakistan (see "Among the Allies," page 44), whose acolytes created the Taliban in Afghanistan and who have provided succor to Al Qaeda since the 1990s, modeled their organization on the Brotherhood. The regime of the ayatollahs in Iran grew out of a secret society called the Devotees of Islam, a Brotherhood affiliate whose leader in the 1950s was the mentor of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. Hamas, the Palestinian terrorist organization, began as an official branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. The radical-right Egyptian Islamic Jihad and allied groups, whose members assassinated President Anwar Sadat of Egypt in 1981 and which merged with Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda in the 1990s, grew out of the Brotherhood in the 1970s. And some of the Afghan leaders who spearheaded the anti-Soviet jihad that was run by the CIA in the 1980s, and who helped bin Laden build the network of "Arab Afghans" that was Al Qaeda's forerunner, were Brotherhood members.
If you use the "Search inside this book" function for Dreyfuss's book "Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam" and look up "Devotees of Islam", he more explicitely characterizes the "Devotees of Islam" as being basically a Muslim Brotherhood offshoot.

I found that info quite interesting given the possibility of a larger Sunni-Shia war that would inevitably pit Sunni Muslim Brotherhood-afilliated groups against Shia counterparts.

1/16/2007 03:30:00 PM  
Blogger ftr23532 said...

whoopsie...forgot the link to the MoJo article. Here we go!

1/16/2007 03:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sunni versus Shia Muslim Brotherhoods? Sounds an awful lot like national socialists (Nazis) versus the Soviet socialists. In fact I'll wager that just like before World War II where Wall Street armed both the Soviets and the Nazis, they're at it again by arming the Sunnis and the Shias. Problem, reaction, solution.

1/16/2007 04:04:00 PM  
Blogger Dr.Alistair said...

well, cops and soldiers are only perpetuating thier handler`s necessity. it is a blind and inate action sitting outside of thier conscious ability to understand.

monsters loose on the land.

1/16/2007 04:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

jeepers creepers, peeple -- ya makes me think the sky is really falling. We gotta TYPE LOUDER! Thanks for your comments (except the lonnnng ones).

1/16/2007 06:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Jeff--

Excellent pot today. I read "Shadow Over Santa Susanna" last year. A really fascinating book. Ive thought all along that Manson was likely a creation of the intelligence agencies for the purpose of demonizing the counter culture movement.

1/16/2007 06:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff writes:

"They blew up one of the holiest shrines in Shia Islam — the Golden Mosque of Samarra — in a calculated effort to provoke Iraq's Shia population to retaliate. Their strategy worked." Yet even though they never made America's front page, there were always compelling reasons to suspect a different calculus, and other hands on the trigger."

Yes, when I heard the Lie Box that is Bush attempt to spin that, it reminded me that he was attempting to occlude that his Bushies helped blow it up. Jeff, there is even articles about the U.S. team wiring the Mosque as well, and tying up the actual security there.

So what a news anchor said in private seems to apply: "news is what people want to cover up."

And Richard is spot on: it was why Rumsfeld smiled like the joker card in the deck so much, he set the house on fire and then offered his services as fire marshal.

Richard said...

"As everyone knows, no country is a believable enemy until we first arm them..."

Rumsfeld and Cheney: that 'dyad of evil' that built the 'axis of evil'

I. Rumsfeld: The Secret of His Smile
--he made North Korea a danger by giving them "faulty, unmonitorable" nuclear technolgoy intentionally
--he made Iraq a danger with biological weapons intentionally

Rumsfeld, the Bilderberger, was connected to Swiss corporation ABB, that supplied nuclear materials under the Clinton deal with North Korea. Surprised to see this is little appreciated or remarked upon:

Keith Olbermann reports: Donald Rumsfeld sold Nuclear Stuff to North Korea...!!!
6 min 43 sec - Oct 11, 2006

Rumsfeld was publicly lambasting the Clinton deal in the 1990s, then turns around and hypocritically supplies, via his Swiss board membership on ABB to sell North Korea the components--in the Clinton deal that Rumsfeld lambasted.

Thus, Rumsfeld built up N. Korea, "forgot" to include monitoring devices to encourage them to be a real enemy nuclear-wise, and then behold, proclaimed them a self constructed useful enemy to the north of China in the hodge podge of that stupid phrase "axis of evil" when he was appointed Secretary of Defense.

Rusmfeld in the 1980s as well of course sold Iraq the U.S. biological weaponry that the U.S.

And later, when Rummy was Secretary of Defense, he had the gall to complain that this biological weaponry he arranged Iraq to have was a "threat" to the region and U.S. troop invasion. Another threat Rummy created.

II. The Lon Cheney Foreign Policy of Dick Cheney
--through Hallibuurton CEOship, only years before, built Iran's nuclear capacities illegally
--and he illegally aided Iraq's oil industry

With Rumsfeld making Iraq and North Korea 'threats,' another piece of their precious 'axis of evil' was Iran. That was Cheney's project. Cheney was Secretary of Defense for Bush I, then he was out as CEO of Halliburton, rustling up a way to set up more invasions in the area he just invaded in 1991.

So, Iran as a danger was set up by Cheney's 1990s stint as CEO of Halliburton.

Cheney's Halliburton sold Iran the nuclear stuff illegally in the 1990s just as Rumsfeld was positioning nuclear stuff in North Korea.

Later both Rumsfeld and Cheney would be in the Bush II administration and complain about the 'nuclear threat' from these countries--a 'nuclear threat' (not) that they did their best to midwife and create.

16.Feb.2006 10:46
Halliburton Secretly Doing Business with Key Member of Iran's Nuclear Team

Scandal-plagued Halliburton, the oil services company once headed by Vice President Dick was secretly working with one of Iran's top nuclear program officials on natural gas related projects and, allegedly, selling the officials' oil development company key components for a nuclear reactor, according to Halliburton sources with intimate knowledge into both companies' business dealings.

23.Jul.2004 00:19
As Halliburton CEO, Cheney Lobbied Congress To Ease Sanctions Against Terrorist Countries

It was Cheney who urged Congress in 1996 to ease sanctions against Iran, a country that's part of President Bush's axis of evil, so Halliburton could legitimately do business there. During a trip to the Middle East in March 1996, Cheney told some U.S. businessmen that Congress should ease sanctions in Iran and Libya to foster better relationships with those countries.

17.Apr.2003 00:07
Halliburton's History Supporting Terrorist Regimes

Halliburton, headed by Dick Cheney before he became vice president, and its KBR subsidiary did business with some of the world's most notorious governments and dictators - in countries such as Azerbaijan, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Libya and Nigeria. The company has routinely skirted U.S. sanctions placed on these countries and lobbied the U.S. government to lift sanctions so it could set up new partnerships and create new business opportunities in these countries.

12.Aug.2005 12:29
Cheney/Halliburton sold Iran nuclear equipment in '04 to justify '05 Cheney planned attack

Still receiving a million dollars a year from the corporation, Cheney's Halliburton supplied the nuclear components to Iran in 2004 that neocon's are now screaming about as "justifying" (sic) their own empty "threat" that promotes pre-emptive war attacks in 2005. Note that a year later, it is Cheney's very hands on order to the Joint Chiefs of Staff to craft a "response to the next terror" that means AUTOMATIC targeting of Iran regardless of where the source of terror comes from! Additional notes from below: FOUR STAR GENERAL BYRNES REFUSES TO GO ALONG WITH THE NORTHCOM NUCLEAR TERROR DRILL THAT WAS TO 'GO LIVE', ONCE IT WAS SHIFTED TO BE UNDER HIS JURISDICTION AT HIS FT. MONROE, VA, BASE ; SO, NEOCON TERRORISTS IN PENTAGON FIRE BYRNES, HE'S REPLACED BY RUMSFELD CRONY --- Neocons still PLANNING FOR TERROR to kick off Iran attack: All Army Leaves has been cancelled after September 7, 2005, right as Bush's "33 day vacation" closes, is likely when they pre-plan for the attack to kick off --- CNN already 'in training' to report FROM NORTHCOM to manipulate the truth and misguide the immediate public reaction to disguise neocon's NORTHCOM/PENTAGON THAT SET OFF next state terror hit on their OWN MOBILIZATION SCHEDULE. It's "Operation Northwoods" updated strategies all over the place. See links for more information and updates:

27.Jan.2004 09:25
Halliburton, GE, Conoco-Phillips Doing Business With Terrorist States
author: CBS News - 60 Minutes
Did it ever occur to you that when President Bush says, "Money is the lifeblood of terrorist operations," he's talking about your money -- and every other American's money? Just about everyone with a 401(k) pension plan or mutual fund has money invested in companies that are doing business in so-called rogue states. In other words, there are U.S. companies that are helping drive the economies of countries like Iran, Syria and Libya that have sponsored terrorists.

Cheney helped out with both Iran and Iraq:

newswire article 29.Dec.2002 04:29
corporate dominance | imperialism & war
Halliburton's [$73 million] Iraq Deals Greater Than Cheney Has Said
Cheney he insisted that he had imposed a "firm policy" against trading with Iraq. "Iraq's different," he said. According to oil industry executives and confidential United Nations records, however, Halliburton held stakes in two firms that signed contracts to sell more than $73 million in oil production equipment and spare parts to Iraq while Cheney was chairman and chief executive officer of the Dallas-based company.

In other words the people constructing the term 'axis of evil' constructed the countries as 'dangers' years beforehand! Down to the very same people in power to a man, Cheney and Rumfeld, who complain about only what they have intentionally done.

True sociopaths, psychopaths, and canny mass manipulators. They've done it since the 1970s as well, with "Team B" that made up fake Soviet dangers to justify military expansionism in the U.S. and the military industrial complex with its more Nazi leanings (see the BBC's the Power of Nightmares documentary on Team B, below is a link).

The secret was always in Rummy's hypocritical grandstanding giggly smile or in Cheney's sideways smile all along, if you knew to read it..."suckers..." is what their smiles say.

Cheney, Secretary of Defense back in 1991 for Bush I, of course lied earlier about the "massed Iraqi troops about to attack Saudi Arabia" during his run up against Kuwait in 1991 as well. On that, watch Cheney: The Unauthorised Biography from CBC's The Fifth Estate on that: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-410313931558811701 (43 min 14 sec - Nov 17, 2006)

The BBC's three part documentary The Power of Nightmares, as well as Alex Jones' Terrorstorm (1 hr 52 min 45 sec), both show that Bush, Cheney, Giuliani, and Rumsfeld are nothing more except a criminal cabal of international terrorists, that have taken power through a judicial and terrorist orchestrated coup in the United States, using their own invention of "Al-Queda" (which doesn't exist) onward.

And the current CIA head, Gates, was the one who set the 'database' (for that is all it means) of Al-Queda up:

New C.I.A Head Founded Al Qaeda
Author: Webster Tarpley

Gates was one of the founders of al Qaeda, the CIA's Arab Legion which was assembled to attack the Soviets in Afghanistan. Gates is thus part of the infrastructure that produced the group blamed on 9/11.

Robert Gates was an integral part of the gun-running, drug-running, and death squad murders lumped under the heading of the Iran-Contra scandal. Gates started in Iran-contra as a stooge of William Casey, and continued under Bush the elder.

When Gates was nominated by Reagan to be head of the CIA in 1987, his role in Iran-contra crimes was already so filthy and so blatant that he was forced to drop out of contention under questioning. In doing this, Gates was seeking to defend his new master, George H.W. Bush, who at that time was preparing a presidential bid for 1988. The elder Bush was the czar of all Reagan-Bush covert operations, including Iran-contra. Gates fell on his sword to avoid revelations which would have doomed the candidacy of Bush the elder. Payback for Gates came in June 1991, when he was nominated once again to be head of the CIA, this time by Bush the elder. Sam Nunn and some others posed embarrassing questions, but this time the cover-up of Gates' Iran-contra role was supervised by Sen. David Boren of the Bush Skull & Bones clique. The Democrats, intimated by the elder Bush's apparent victory in the first Gulf war, rolled over.

If Gates was too dirty to even get to a vote in committee in 1987, how can he be acceptable today? If Democratic Senators like Levin and Biden opposed Gates in 1991, how can they find him acceptable for a much more important post at a time of far greater crisis?

Gates' resume is marked by a total absence of independent and competent judgment. His pedigree is rather that of a stooge who serves powerful masters. The first was Reagan's CIA Director William Casey, the kingpin of Iran-contra. The second was George H.W. Bush, who took over that role from Casey. Gates appears as a Bush family retainer, as when he was tapped by the family in 1999 to become Dean of the George Bush School of Government and Public Service at Texas A&M University. Gates is a secret government toady, not the autonomous figure of integrity required to terminate US involvement in Bush's catstrophic Iraq adventure.

The Bush regime has become infamous for fixing the facts and the intelligence to suit the pre-determined policy of aggression and adventurism. ....Will Gates resist the new attacks on Iran, Syria. North Korea, demanded by Cheney and the neocons? His assurances in this regard are worthless.


Most damning of all is the fact that Gates was one of the founders of al Qaeda, the CIA's Arab Legion which was assembled to attack the Soviets in Afghanistan. Gates is thus part of the infrastructure that produced the patsies of 9/11:

According to former CIA Director Robert Gates's memoir From the Shadows, the big expansion of the US covert operation in Afghanistan began in 1984. During this year, "the size of the CIA's covert program to help the Mujaheddin increased several times over," reaching a level of about $500 million in US and Saudi payments funneled through the Zia regime in Pakistan.

As Gates recalled, "it was during this period [1985] that we began to learn of a significant increase in the number of Arab nationals from other countries who had traveled to Afghanistan to fight in the Holy War against the Soviets. They came from Syria, Iraq, Algeria, and elsewhere, and most fought with the Islamic fundamentalist Muj groups, particularly that headed by Abdul Resaul Sayyaf. We examined ways to increase their participation, perhaps in the form of some sort of 'international brigade,' but nothing came of it. Years later, these fundamentalist fighters trained by the Mujaheddin in Afghanistan would begin to show up around the world, from the Middle East to New York City, still fighting their Holy War ­ only now including the United States among their enemies. Our mission was to push the Soviets out of Afghanistan. We expected a post-Soviet Afghanistan to be ugly, but never considered that it would become a haven for terrorists operating worldwide." (Gates 349)

But the international brigade Gates talked about was in fact created ­ as the group now known as al Qaeda. (Tarpley, 9/11 Synthetic Terror, pp.139-140 ) This is the same al Qaeda which provided the troupe of patsies, psychotics, and double agents (bin Laden, Atta, Moussaoui, etc.) which were used to pin the 9/11 attacks on Arabs and Moslems ­ instead of the US bankers' rogue network which actually carried out 9/11 for geopolitical reasons. Gates is up to his ears in the terror apparatus of this rogue network, the September criminals who created 9/11.

And as for this from an above comment:

Iranian Revolution emerged out of what was basically a Shia branch of the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood....The radical-right Egyptian Islamic Jihad and allied groups, whose members assassinated President Anwar Sadat of Egypt in 1981 and which merged with Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda in the 1990s, grew out of the Brotherhood in the 1970s. And some of the Afghan leaders who spearheaded the anti-Soviet jihad that was run by the CIA in the 1980s, and who helped bin Laden build the network of "Arab Afghans" that was Al Qaeda's forerunner, were Brotherhood members."

The handiwork assuredly of current CIA head, Mr. Gates as well.

As the BBC documentary shows so clearly, in the past politicians gained power by promising to deliver a better world. Currently, they have gained power as managers of people instead of leaders, promising to "protect us" from nebulous nightmares entirely of their own sick invention, when really they are only interested in harming us.

These scams only 'work' if the social psychology of fear 'works' and if no one notices the slight of hand involved above in who is arming whom.

If it becomes more widely known that the Bush Administration responding to the 'terrorism' are themselves PERSONALLY creating and abetting that terrorism that they claim falsely to be 'responding' to, the scam ain't gonna work.

1/16/2007 06:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe the intelligence agencies have been behind a lot of the mosque bombings, trying to stir up trouble and justify the western military presence in the region.

Let's not forget this story:

British Soldiers caught red handed dressed as Arabs driving around in a car full of explosives, back in 05.


1/16/2007 07:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Updated link for above comment:


1/16/2007 07:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Type HTML at the end of that link, it doesnt come out in full when I enter it into the blogger.

1/16/2007 07:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A little extra about Gates setting up Iraq as being a 'danger' as well in 1995:

06.Dec.2006 06:52
Gates Implicated in 1995 Crime Trial

Bush is in a hurry to replace Rumsfeld with Iran Contra and Teledyne conspirator Robert Gates. Gates was fortunate to evade Iran-Contra investigator Larry Walsh, but incriminating evidence surfaced in a 1995 trial linking Gates to illegal arms sales - of cluster bombs to Iraq.

Excerpt from the Teicher Declaration about Gates illegal weaponry shipments connections to Iraq in the 1990s.

The document that implicates Gates is the "Teicher Declaration". At first the prosecutors of Bill Clinton's Justice department first contested it, tried to exclude it from the trial, and then tried to have it classified as TOP SECRET.

According to an order Clinton himself signed the same year, it could not be kept secret.

You can download it from this site:


1/16/2007 07:17:00 PM  
Blogger flic said...

What is he doing?
He's looking at a plant.
He's a customs officer.

1/16/2007 08:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, so that's what a helter skelter is. There used to be one of those at Coney Island, in the old Steeplechase Park, though even when I went there as a little girl it had been closed off. I was particularly disappointed because I already knew of it from a Superman comic -- Lex Luthor and a couple of other supervillains had run into one another by chance there and had started forming a plot against Superman as they spiraled downward in tandem . . .

And speaking of supervillains . . .

The advantages of turning a country like Iraq into a failed state are not limited to getting access to its resources. Failed states are prized in their own right by those who thrive on chaos -- dealers in drugs and arms and blood diamonds and the like. There are, for example, strong suspicions that the Chechen "seperatists" find richer soil for their real interests in continued turmoil than they would in actually creating a functioning state.

And then there are the Jack Abramoff's of this world, who seek out desperate enclaves, like Indian reservations or the Marianas Islands, where a lack of local regulation combined with open access to markets elsewhere creates the perfect boundary conditions for them to manipulate.

At this forum, there is a well-founded suspicion of the excessive power of 20th century-style mega-states. But that should not blind us to the fact that the breakdown of the state may leave us at the mercy of even more rapacious exploiters while enjoying no greater freedoms.

1/16/2007 08:20:00 PM  
Blogger Real History Lisa said...

Curiously, Thane Eugene Cesar also talked about a coming race war. You'd almost think some people high up were planning one, domestically, or at the very least, planning ON one. Bizarre. Tres bizarre.

I've long wondered about the Manson case, and Bugliosi's role. Aside from the good deeds he did on the RFK case, he has been working for years on a book (maybe three volumes now, I hear) arguing (unsuccessfully or he could have done it in one) that Oswald alone killed Kennedy. And didn't Bugliosi write a book on the Phoenix Project as well, begging the question of the kinds of contacts he has in the intel community?

In any case, I don't think the full story of what Manson really represented has been told, or why two of his former accolytes tried to kill President Ford within two the same month, which would have made Nelson Rockefeller our first unelected, unappointed President.

1/16/2007 08:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The (Demon) Spirit of '76

Perhaps the biggest "build terrorist capacities and respond as fascists" scam of all started back in 1976, with these same people.

They were all tied into CIA/NATO European Gladio personnel, an endless justified refrain around RI, doing the same in Europe:


US DoD McNiven RICO SUIT! BUSH SENIOR, CIA head, & his 1976 state terror plan to hit WTCs!

A LIVE COURT CASE! DEAL WITH IT! WELCOME TO REALITY. Our own U.S. Army devised a plan commissioned by Congress to bring down the WTC...McNiven, who first went public in an affidavit included in a 9/11-related federal conspiracy (RICO) lawsuit filed against Bush and others in 2004, claims his unit was ordered to create the "perfect terrorist plan" using commercial airliners as weapons and the Twin Towers as their target.....publicized version of the study, commissioned by Congress, was to identify security lapses and submit corrective measures to lawmakers. However, McNiven claims the real purpose of the study was to brainstorm how to pull off the perfect terrorist attack using the exact same 9/11 scenario. The study, commissioned to C-Battery 2/81st Field Artillery, U.S. Army, stationed in Strassburg, Germany in 1976, specifically devised the scenario of the Twin Towers being leveled by Middle Eastern terrorists using commercial airliners and even plastic box cutters to bypass security. To silence critics, McNiven has successfully passed a credible lie detector test regarding his participation in the study as well as other specific orders given to him by his superiors in case of a real attack on the Twin Towers. The head of the 1976 mock terrorist plan was Lt. Michael Teague of Long Island, who McNiven says, was given specific orders by higher-ups in the military to use the Twin Towers as the terrorist target. McNiven said he has been unable to contact Lt. Teague, but was interested in his opinion now that "the 9/11 attacks happened the way we planned them in 1976."

This explains several things about "staffing regroup for the WTC operation", same as 1976 as 2001: Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush Senior links, and Rockefeller family knowledge of the upcoming attacks. After all, The Rockefellers built the WTCs.

9-11 Insider Nicholas Rockefeller's Proprietary Cashless Society Technology and Databases

The Very Visible Nicholas Rockefeller's Invisible Panopticon: His United Nations Aired Ideas for a Private Proprietary Database and Technology for a Global Wireless Cashless Consumer Panopticon, all under Nicholas Rockefeller, a 9-11 Insider, according to Aaron Russo:

Nicholas Rockefeller predicted in early 2000 to a friend he found "un-recruitable to the CFR", Aaron Russo (which probably led in the past several years for Russo to rush through making his film _America: Freedom to Fascism), that an event would soon happen to allow for

- a Caspian pipeline,

- an Afghanistan invasion,

- and an Iraq invasion.

Eleven months later, Russo said, Nicholas Rockefeller prediction came true, and Nicky got his wish: the 9-11 events happened and sure enough, soon there was soon a Caspian pipeline, an Afghanistan invasion, and an Iraq invasion.

As reported by PrisonPlanet.com:

Nicholas Rockefeller Predicted "Event" To Trigger War Eleven Months Before 9/11 Hollywood director Russo recalls remarkable "forecast" of coming attack [Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | October 28 2006]


9-11 "security" issues only set up wider "state driven appeal" for the his proprietary technology platform for a cashless society. 9-11 Insider Nicholas Rockefeller, predicts 9-11 justified Middle East invasions a year in advance--and only months before 9-11 sees fit as well to start up a pilot project for a cashless society.

Nicky Rockefeller has additionally been involved in all THREE major global 'lifetime people monitoring' database corporations detailed below.

"The cashless society will be controlled by the Rockefellers, and it will be microwave based, wireless, and controlled off the phone tower network"--if he has his way. China is his model. See what he is doing in China below, and see how there is huge synergy between his fingers and his minions' fingers in the corporations US Search, Zebasearch, and GlobalAgora--all linked to him.

1/16/2007 08:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...so Bush is "a very ready tool" who currently enjoys the unprecedented and seemingly unaccountable permission to do the unthinkable. And because he can, something big is coming down.

As the saying goes,

...Nothing is true because everything is permitted and everything is permitted, because nothing is ever true.

At least Sheri 'Moon' Zombie has a nice ass. And is actually a very nice person,from what I hear.

Halliburton´s Tehran Hideaway

Trading With The Enemy

Dick Cheney, Iran and Halliburton, A Grand Jury Investigates Sanctions Violations

Business As Usual?

HSBC Chases Profit in Iran, Nations U.S. Says Sponsor Terrorism

Only two things come from Texas boy, and that's steers and queers. And this is one queer Kurtzian cow.

1/16/2007 09:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It does give the strong depressing impression of a reality-play with its automatons and semi-automatons and misguided human-missiles all at the behest of the reality-play-wrights..

The striking sinking feeling though is of people, or entities, who don't care the least for people, or any living things, except as a means to an end.. an end that only has to do with what they want..

1/16/2007 09:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Real History Lisa said:

"I don't think the full story of what Manson really represented has been told, or why two of his former acolytes tried to kill President Ford within two the same month, which would have made Nelson Rockefeller our first unelected, unappointed President."

Well! I never knew that it was MKULTRA Manson cronies that attempted to conveniently kill off Ford, making the primrose unelected path of Nelson Rockefeller possible--and even intended.

Nelson Rockefeller famously said, "I never wanted to be Vice President of anything!" A threat if I ever heard one.

Nelson had attempted in the past to 'legally' buy his way into being the Republican Presidential candidate year after year in the 1960s, and failed. (There used to be a link to a 'softcore documentary' (not porn, just attempting to pretend to be rigorous and hardhitting while throwing soft pillows), at Google Video on the Rockefellers. It's Part Three of the History Channel's "The Rockefellers" that has footage of all this history of Nelson Rockefeller's attempts at the Presidency over and over in the 1960s. Good luck if you can find it at Google Video though it looks like someone has deleted it from there (and the Part Two, the one on the Standard Oil Monopoly, has never worked at all).

The late Sherman Skolnick's opinion was that Nelson Rockefeller was setting up a 'slow coup' since he was unable to get to the Presidency legally.

The following is a summary of the points Skolnick made as early as 1973 that Nelson Rockefeller was planning on a coup by first clearing out Agnew, then Nixon, and by this, setting up a daisy chain of appointments, that would end with an assassinated Ford, and then with President Rockefeller pulled up to the Presidency by the MKULTRA assassins bootstraps; immediately thereafter, state terrorism that would take down his family's WTCs in 1976 as the U.S. Army planned for them, replete with fake "Arab patsies" "boxcutters" and "airline hijackings" in that state terror plan of 1976 as well. Didn't quite work out that way in 1976, and by 1979, Nelson was dead of a sex induced heart attack. Thank you Megan Marshank, Nelson's twentysomething mistress, who let him die on the floor in indecision after a heart attack from sex in her Nelson bought townhouse because Megan didn't want the publicity of pulling out Nelson from her townhouse to the hospital with all the publicity that would generate. And he died before he got to the hospital.

I've mentioned Megan Marshank before at RI on Jeff's post 'Time Bomb' and comments, in a timeline of state terrorism events there. More detail there if curious.

And on Skolnick's inside track to the slow Nelson Rockefeller coup, when Nelson was denied the Presidency legally, this story still has echoes and repercussions in 2006:

WOODWARD was a Pentagon plant, A representative of people to remove Nixon: Why? THE 25TH AMENDMENT TRICK

"THE 25TH AMENDMENT TRICK"--USED IN TWO ATTEMPTS TO GET TO THE PRESIDENCY WITHOUT ANY ELECTION Queuing up to appoint President Nelson Rockefeller, via a SLOW COUP of appointments and assassinations, a technique that Bush has learned from well it seems. In 1973: plan was to remove VP Agnew first, appoint a crony Ford (on the Warren Commission cover up), then remove Nixon next..., making unelected Ford President, and thus, having both appointed Pres & Ford could appoint a VP....; then kill off the Pres. appointee Ford [with Manson linked CIA MKULTRAs] after Ford had appointed Nelson as VP.

However, Ford survived 3 Nelson linked assassination attempts--messing the queuing all up.

[Why "Nelson linked"? According to the book _Thy Will Be Done: The Conquest of the Amazon, Nelson Rockefeller and Evangelism in the Age of Oil_, it was Nelson Rockefeller who was the first to authorize 'experimental beds' for the CIA's MKULTRA project back in the 1950s; Nelson, then in the State Department, was 'with it' from the start. And according to McGowan's _Programmed to Kill: the Politics of Serial Murder_, Manson's 'cell' of people including himself was most assuredly a CIA MKULTRA project.]

Did the Nelson Rockefeller scheme die with him, in 1979, after he basically appointed the whole administration of Trilaterals to Jimmy Carter's administration as a consolation prize to his failed slow coup? Or did it live on in the attempt to remove Gore in 1998? and then in Gore assassination attempts in 2000 over Chicago O'Hare Airport (as reported by the Chicago Tribune--print only edition)? And the attempts to vacate Cheney without vacating Bush?

Something to keep in mind: this would be an entirely legal coup. Watch out. Since November 22, 1963 (murder of U.S. President John F. Kennedy by a Nazi inside cabal linked to VP Johnson, 'Operation Northwoods' writer Lemnitzer, Prescott Bush sponsored Nixon, and CIA-Cubans contact Bush Sr.), American politics has been overshadowed by a gangster turf war. It was not taken seriously by voters for four decades. Voters might be well advised to rethink their decision to ignore this.


Skolnick was passed the inside information that the media was sitting on, and started talking about Agnew being removed before anyone else back in 1973, long before the VP Agnew resignation or even the media stories about it:

Taking over as President after JFK was the victim of a public execution in 1963, was Lyndon B. Johnson who had been Vice President. [Some contend the Kennedys reluctantly put him on the Democrat ticket at the 1960 convention, after Johnson threatened to publicly finger the Kennedy Family and their Nazi links.] BUT, there was a defect in the U.S. Constitution. There was no provision to fill the Vice President slot vacancy except by future election. So, up to the 1964 Presidential Election, Johnson served WITHOUT a Vice President.

Scheming, on their own time-table, to put the Big Oil cabal into the White House, the Rockefeller Family championed and arranged to have enacted in 1967, the U.S. Constitution's 25th Amendment, providing by appointment for the line of succession as to the Vice Presidency.

The Rockefellers understood full well that to grab the Oval Office they first have to capture the office of Vice President as a backdoor. President Nixon's Vice President Spiro Agnew was the target.

I had the distinction of uncovering the plot against Agnew six months before the oil-soaked, spy-riddled monopoly press was ready to reveal it. Censored by his bosses, a network reporter, knowing my long record of never, never revealing witnesses and sources, put it in my ear. [In our work over the last 40 years I have been jailed some eight times for "contempt of court" for refusing to reveal our methods of investigation, our witnesses, and our sources.]

At the time in 1973, the Watergate Affair was bubbling and boiling. I was traveling across the country, giving seminars for and speeches to, college students. I spelled out the plot starting with the expected removal of Vice President Agnew. Some students, supposedly "educated", nonetheless stupid and having no horse sense, viciously heckled me. "Mr. Skolnick, you made up the story. I read the New York Times every day. There was no such story about the Agnew bribery scandal. I think you are just a damned liar. Who invited you to this college anyway?" College newspaper editors and such had similar things to say.

No one apologized to me, nor did my ego require apologies, when the story broke, on the press whores own agenda, in October, 1973.

A prosecutor in Baltimore was about to indict Vice President Spiro Agnew for bribery going back to the time Agnew was Maryland Governor. So Agnew resigned.

...Gerald Ford to be the new Vice President, without an election. Having sat on the infamous Warren Commission, and on behalf of the aristocracy proclaiming a "lone assassin" murdered JFK, Gerald Ford was clearly eligible for the high office.

In August, 1974, forced to resign by the Rockefeller-dominated U.S. Supreme Court ruling as to the Nixon tapes case, Nixon was automatically replaced by Ford, all without an election. [The Rockefellers rewarded Tricky Dick for going quietly. They made available to him a residence in Manhattan, a townhouse, wall to wall with David Rockefeller.] By these musical chairs, President Ford appointed [unelected private citizen, ex-Gov of New York] Nelson A. Rockefeller as the Vice President. Again, all this without an election."

Read background on Woodward above at the link and his family--and then attempt to 'remember what you knew' for sure about Watergate. All that information will have suddenly vanished! This is a key puzzle piece, in my opinion, to why Nixon was removed: to queue up Nelson Rockefeller. Plans within plans within plans.

A little known story is that George H. W. Bush attempted to get himself placed as VP to Nixon in 1968--which would have made "President Bush" directly in 1973, without being elected after Nixon, was removed. Bush Senior as well had a history of failing to win elections (in Texas).

And back in 1972, everybody still 'here' was 'there' as well: even Clinton, who gave soon dead Congressman Hale Boggs his last send off:

In October, 1972, a young fellow named William Jefferson Clinton, drove Congressman Hale Boggs (D., La.) to an airport. Boggs together with an Alaska official named Begich*, took off for a flight to Alaska. Their airplane disappeared somewhere in Alaska. The media version was that the airplane could not be found. However, our later interviews with investigators convinced us the plane was found by a secret team of U.S. Military Intelligence who would not publicly reveal what happened to Boggs and his associate.

Boggs had been a member of the Warren Commission whose fraudulent 1964 report asserted that a lone assassin slaughtered President John F. Kennedy. In years thereafter, however, Boggs expressed misgivings.

He said there was a cover-up.

Moreover, [it was] he [who] dared reveal that J. Edgar Hoover, through wire-tapping, was spying on Congress.

Boggs knew further of the role of Nixon with the planning group just prior to the Dallas assassination.

*[Begich--certainly father to the Alaskan Dr. Begich who wrote the exposure about HAARP, Angels Don't Play This HAARP: Further Adventures in Tesla Technology, (co author 'new energy journalist' Jeanne Manning). Begich in a video documentary I have seen describes his father as an important "ex-Alaskan state government official".]

Skolnick's information originally appeared in:

The Overthrow Of The American Republic - Part 53
The Hang-man Cometh!
By Sherman H. Skolnick, 4-21-2004

1/16/2007 09:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Correction: it's Megan Marshak, instead of "Megan Marshank" as said above.

1/16/2007 10:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is my summary of the SAS provocateurs captured in Basra during Sept. 2005 that a few people have mentioned. Lots of great photos and links.

1/16/2007 10:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, that's Nick, who also was a member of the House when he died. Interestingly, the Wiki article on the father does not mention Nick, Jr., presumably the older son, only Mark. But the article on HAARP states:

"In September 1995, a book entitled Angels Don't Play This HAARP: Advances in Tesla Technology by Nick Begich, Jr., son of the late Congressman Nick Begich, claimed that the project in its present stage could be used for geophysical warfare."

And Hale Boggs' daughter, we all know, is television personality "Cokie" Roberts. A nice sinecure for the murdered man's kid. The syndicate takes care of the families.

1/16/2007 10:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Republican Freemason Recognition! H.R.33
(we are not kidding…as in 33rd Degree Freemason)
H. Res. 33: Recognizing the thousands of Freemasons in every State in the Nation and honoring them.
Title: Recognizing the thousands of Freemasons in every State in the Nation and honoring them for their many contributions to the Nation throughout its history.
Sponsor: Rep Gillmor, Paul E. [R-OH-5] (introduced 1/5/2007) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 1/5/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
Resolved, That the House of Representatives recognizes the thousands of Freemasons in every State in the Nation and honors them for their many contributions to the Nation throughout its history.

1/16/2007 11:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Bushies, their nazi ilk sugar coated in an Old Testament
Christian Reconstructionism
(watch the video 43 min) want to keep everything "all in the family," even though that was a stereotype. The U.S. Christian Reconstructionists, allied with international organized crime, probably sing this as their anthem:

"Those Were The Days"
by Lee Adams and Charles Strouse

Boy, the way Glenn Miller played. Songs that made the Hit Parade.

Guys like us, we had it made. Those were the days.

Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his weight.

Gee, our old LaSalle ran great. Those were the days.

And you know who you were then. Girls were girls and men were men.

Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.

People seemed to be content. Fifty dollars paid the rent.

Freaks were in a circus tent. Those were the days.

Take a little Sunday spin, go to watch the Dodgers win.

Have yourself a dandy day that cost you under a fin.

Hair was short and skirts were long. Kate Smith really sold a song.

I don't know just what went wrong. Those Were The Days.


Boy, the way that Manson killed. Most efficient one we ever drilled.

Guys like us, we paved his way. Those were the days.

Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled our weight.

Gee, how our old Jim Crow ran great. Those were the days.

And you know who you were then. Women were girls and boys were men.

Mister, we could use a man like Boho Grover Herbert Hoover again.

Our people seemed to be content. Particularly when we didn't tolerate dissent.

Freaks were thrown to lions in our circus tent. Those were the days.

Take a little Sunday spin, go to watch the Klansmen win.

Have yourself a dandy day appetizing as a blood on a shark's fin.

Hair was short and skirts were long. The USO really sold a song.

I just don't know where the Nazis went wrong. Those Were The Days.

1/17/2007 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About a year and a half after the current Iraq mess started, there were lots of articles appearing in the Bay Area(CA) papers about Iraqi kids with missing limbs and burnt up faces getting plastic surgery from the goodness of the American People. Forget about the hundreds of thousands that don't get their limbs replaced and the custom plastic faces. As long as we took care of these few, everything else was alright.

That's what I love about America... we live & revel in the uniqueness of the individual story. We'll pick out the one feel good story so we don't have to face any of the other stories. It only matters that one guy wins the lottery and not that hundres of thousands gamble needlessly and lose.

There is though a certain honesty with animals like Lions. They know instinctively that one baby zebra doesn't mean a hill of beans in the endless flow of zebras across time. They don't send baby zebras for reconstructive surgery...they just eat them.

My feeling is that it's in the living in obvious lies that builds the psychosis of America. Maybe if the guys running the show all came out and said, "Hey Citizens, we all want to live comfortable lives of mass consumption so we're going to kill lots of foreign people and live fat, lazy life styles with the creature comforts made from their oil reserves." Maybe if I saw everyone voting for this openly, I could go along with it. As it is we all do this anyway by doing nothing when we know it's happening now.

I just work it out by bloggin about it. It helps me fight my creeping psychosis.

How about you Jeff?

1/17/2007 01:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"People are frustrated not having their voice of reason confirmed. And everyone has that voice of reason that goes, 'This is bull man. What I'm watching is bull.'
And yet, the media does not confirm it. So after a while, people get...they begin to think they're insane. And that's the bummer about it. And that's why I love non-mainstream stuff because you actually hear honest emotion. And that's what you won't hear on mainstream tv, ever, is honest emotion."
Bill Hicks


1/17/2007 02:09:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

How nice to have the old crowd back, in addition to some new voices and some board dwellers, and everyone vibing off this hairy-scary post from Jeff. Maybe all the Satanspawn spam-pukers effected a sort of reverse exorcism, an invocation of the Round Fable. Where to start?

Sure and it's all scary as hell, but silver linings are easy to find when you press that color negative button. It seems as though there's no stopping these world-killing fanatics, with the chimp smirking about the notion of congress stopping the descent into chaos and the loyal opposition taking impeachment off the table, etc, but there has been another, mostly unreported development as well.

We used to bemoan the fact that the sheep were being led to the slaughter unaware of the machinations of the overlords--the implication being that if only the truth could get out there, we could rise up and stop the madness. Some of us even suggested the odd notion of forging a new reality using the raw unsung power of our unconscious consciousness...(hey, Shrub! I'm responding, but not with the old song & dance, exactly.)

Here's what's "new"--we sheep may still be creeping to the slaughter, but we aren't buying the official stories anymore, even if they are the only ones on the newsstand. Anyone catch the poll released in connection with the Medicare bill that would force the Feds to negotiate bulk deals with Pharma? 92% of the public said bugger off to the few Republicans lame enough to play that free market bullshit--they (which is we) don't believe the central message of the Big Lie anymore.

They know that scarcity economics is a rigged game, that Iraq is a lie, that we've been making more enemies than friends...Don't underestimate this sea change just because the incurious masses haven't booked tours down Gladio rabbit holes like we have. Carl Levin can play the establishment's "don't cut off funding for the troops" number all he wants--no one believes that anything is going to the grunts anyway. The Appeal for Redress--soldiers suing for peace, the same movement which eventually cut off funding for Vietnam--is gaining momentum.

If the public knows they've been lied to about the most basic premises of this shabby reality they've been sold--that competition determines prices & availability, that the war was not only mismanaged but completely unjustified--then it's a very short trip to the realization that the same elites which run the economy and profit from the state of war are traitors, and our leaders are war criminals.

This further realization is inevitable now because the dissonance of supporting such contradictory notions is untenable over the long haul. Silverfox talks about the numbers of the insane rising, when, in fact, this is merely the first painful step toward acquiring sanity. The Myth was insane: this is progress, ugly as it seems.

Most of you familiar with P.K. Dick (and the recently departed R.A. Wilson's descriptions of his paranoia) know that the man's visions unhinged him shortly after Valis. Well, check this out. An Anonymous poster linked a dark Dick passage from the deep well at De-Oxy. Look at it again, not just to see who was really crazy, but more importantly for the hope PKD found in his visions. (Shrub, this Be-In is already happening; no tickets or Port-a-Potties necessary.)

Tractates Cryptica Scriptura
(Exegesis from the novel VALIS by Philip K. Dick 1981)

31. We hypostatize information into objects. Rearrangement of objects is change in the content of the information; the message has changed. This is a language which we have lost the ability to read. We ourselves are a part of this language; changes in us are changes in the content of the information. We ourselves are information-rich; information enters us, is processed and is then projected outward once more, now in an altered form. We are not aware that we are doing this, that in fact this is all we are doing.

34. The ancient Greek thinkers understood the nature of this pan-psychism, but they could not read what it was saying. We lost the ability to read the language of the Mind at some primordial time; legends of this fall have come down to us in a carefully-edited form. By "edited" I mean falsified. We suffer the Mind's bereavement and experience it inaccurately as guilt.

35. The Mind is not talking to us but by means of us. Its narrative passes through us and its sorrow infuses us irrationally. As Plato discerned, there is a streak of the irrational in the World Soul.

36. In Summary: thoughts of the brain are experienced by us as arrangements and rearrangements—change—in a physical universe; but in fact it is really information and information-processing which we substantialize. We do not merely see its thoughts as objects, but rather as the movement, or, more precisely, the placement of objects: how they become linked to one another. But we cannot read the patterns of arrangement; we cannot extract the information in it—i.e. it as information, which is what it is. The linking and relinking of objects by the Brain is actually a language, but not a language like ours (since it is addressing itself and not someone or something outside itself).

37. We should be able to hear this information, or rather narrative, as a neutral voice inside us. But something has gone wrong. All creation is a language and nothing but a language, which for some inexplicable reason we can't read outside and can't hear inside. So I say, we have become idiots. Something has happened to our intelligence. My reasoning is this: arrangement of parts of the Brain is language. We are parts of the Brain; therefore we are language. Why, then, do we not know this? We do not even know what we are, let alone what the outer reality is of which we are parts. The origin of the word "idiot" is the word "private." Each of us has become private, and no longer shares the common thought of the Brain, except at a subliminal level. Thus our real life and purpose are conducted below our threshold of consciousness.

38. From loss and grief the Mind has become deranged. Therefore we, as parts of the universe, the Brain, are partly deranged.

44. Since the universe is actually composed of information, then it can be said that information will save us. This is the saving gnosis which the Gnostics sought. There is no other road to salvation. However, this information—or more precisely the ability to read and understand this information, the universe as information—can only be made available to us by the Holy Spirit. We cannot find it on our own. Thus it is said that we are saved by the grace of God and not by good works, that all salvation belongs to Christ, who, I say, is a physician.

48. ON OUR NATURE. It is proper to say: we appear to be memory coils (DNA carriers capable of experience) in a computer-like thinking system which, although we have correctly recorded and stored thousands of years of experiental information, and each of us possesses somewhat different deposits from all the other life forms, there is a malfunction—a failure—of memory retrieval . There lies the trouble in our particular subcircuit. "Salvation" through gnosis—more properly anamnesis (the loss of amnesia)—although it has individual significance for each of us—a quantum leap in perception, identity, cognition, understanding, world- and self-experience, including immortality—it has greater and further importance for the system as a whole, inasmuch as these memories are data needed by it and valuable to it, to its overall functioning.

Therefore it is in the process of self-repair, which includes: rebuilding our subcircuit via linear and orthogonal time changes, as well as continual signaling to us to stimulate blocked memory banks within us to fire and hence retrieve what is there.
The external information or gnosis, then consists of disinhibiting instructions, with the core content actually intrinsic to us—that is, already there (first observed by Plato; viz: that learning is a form of remembering).

The ancients possessed techniques (sacraments and rituals) used largely in the Greco-Roman mystery religions, including early Christianity, to induce firing and retrieval, mainly with a sense of its restorative value to the individuals; the Gnostics, however, correctly saw the ontological value to what they called the Godhead Itself, the total entity.

If you read a little further, you'll see that the dark forces of empire are fighting a rearguard action against the light rising backward from the future. So keep feeding that light the information of which it consists. They're losing and they know it.

1/17/2007 02:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reason it was posted (information)is because we do not hide anything.
We want you to know this geni is out of the bottle.

See pt1 the demon was an idea
Go see my last posts, we are helping not hurting our fight.

Truly not for the profane.

1/17/2007 05:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am surprised no one said that Polanski was an unknown handed a script.

He was made famous.

They (guess who)were just the bill collectors coming to collect the BILL.

Who what and why?

Why was Manson's family allowed off the line, and
who is behind it all.
Were they zealots?
Did they take the fight to the enemy.

What of the lost city where they were to wait out the storm?

Was he a theta


1/17/2007 05:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Eyes Wide Shut Effect

1/17/2007 05:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Edward Kelly's "Vision of the Round House"¹ adds further credibility to the texts written by scholars supporting the concept of the creation of humanity by extra-terrestrials through genetic engineering. There is no way Dr. John Dee and Edward Kelly had any knowledge of this in the 16th century. The "Vision of the Round House" is identical: Humanity was created by extra-terrestrials who needed slave laborers in the mines. By taking the ovum from a Cro-Magnon/primate and using artificial insemination with a sperm from one of the Nephilim, we were created.

The one known as Satan created us and designed us. He intended to bring us knowledge and make us as the Gods, but he was prevented from doing so and cursed by some of the other Gods. We did not evolve naturally, as opposed to animals who have overall better health and immunity. Satan wished to bring us to perfection, but some of the other Gods wanted for us to be destroyed after the mission was over and since we were becoming an issue, they attempted to let us all drown in the flood.

During early development an embryo enters a stage. This stage under a microscope looks just like an APPLE. This is known as the "Torus Stage." The shape is called a "Morula." Every single form of life goes through this stage. This is the "apple" that was written about in the Garden of Eden. This is where Satan went against the other Gods and gave us more advanced genetics. The "breath of God" is the soul. The chakras are the psychic energy centers that are activated by BREATHING in certain ways to enable the Kundalini to ascend. When the Kundalini Serpent ascends, enlightenment/Godhead is achieved.

The Tree of Life is Ancient Egyptian in origin. It is actually a pattern, either upright or upside-down for the genetics of life. It plugs into the Flower of Life that has been inscribed upon so many walls in Egyptian temples and also in the pyramids. The Flower of Life is the blueprint for every living thing.

Fools claim Satan is an "xian invention." All of the Old Gods were made into Devils and Demons in order to destroy their relations with humans. These are the Gods who have been present throughout the life of the human race and have attempted to give us knowledge and to help us in our times of need. Cities were destroyed, libraries and other places where books were kept were burnt and destroyed. Every culture, such as the Philistines, that worshiped other Gods was made war upon and genocide ensued. The Philistines worshiped Beelzebub. he was the God of the Philistine city of Ekron and Zebulon. (Baal [Lord] Zebulon). There are few if any traces of the truth concerning these Gods.

The Old Gods have remained as Devils and Demons just to survive. The judeo/xian "god" wishes for the destruction of humanity. This can be seen in the Inquisition, anti-life teachings, especially where the abstinence of sexual intercourse is concerned, to stop us from procreating. Moses went on a rampage of war and slaughter when he descended from the mount under the direction of jehova. The incident at Fatima with the virgin bitch revealed the alien contempt for humanity in the hopeful anticipation of our blowing ourselves to bits with nuclear weapons, if one can read between the lines.

With the opening of the watchtowers a small increment, humanity has been flooded with knowledge in the last 100 years that has been unparelled in the whole of history. We have not had time to adapt.

This was the sole intention by the angels who communicated the information to Dr. John Dee and Edward Kelly.

That the knowledge would act to destroy humanity in a short period of time.

100 years is nothing to the Gods. The fact that they were angels is portrayed by their arrogance and condescending attitude towards the two men.

Demons are very friendly and understanding when treated with respect. I have never known Demons to be arrogant.

Most people either study physical science or the occult knowledge. Not very many study both. This is where people would benefit, by studying both, for in the end, it all comes together.

Francis Crick, Nobel Prize Winner for the discovery of DNA and his hypothesis of Panspermia


¹ Enochian Magic by Donald Tyson, First Edition, Second Printing, 2002
Pages 353-364

1/17/2007 05:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Information for above was taken from Crick's writing and ref 1


1/17/2007 05:31:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

anon 1:41 said;

'My feeling is that it's in the living in obvious lies that builds the psychosis of America.'

The lies are not apparent to the masses because currently our manner of integrating sub-conscious knowledge into our conscious models is crude and leaves allot out. Limited models (beliefs) force us to relegate anomalous elements to our unconscious. It's a coping device and frankly I do not fault people for it. Unfortunately the repressed unconsciousness will try for recognition within negative social expressions.

We, who do choose to examine the anomalous elements in this strange trip, risk illness if we see enough to tear down, yet we do not see well enough to create more appropriate criteria for understanding.

So, this is my focus, examining past and current psychical conditioning systems so as to design a new outlook that expresses better the connections (correspondences) between categories. We have been hypnotized to focus on the objects rather than space between the objects.

I an interested in maintaining my health. Simple. It’s working, so far.

IC, your iridescence is maintained with such a consistent and beautiful hue. Keep those love angels close. Language-Yes, (a foxian hmmm) I've got some studying to do.

1/17/2007 06:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We can 't change the way we are living without shedding some blood.


liberty tree.

I read and read books its all there if you can see.

The USA founders were deists.

America is founded on the Satanic.

It is an OCCULT nation.


As for the authorities waiting for a BLOODBATH.


So, maybe the family were a little overzealous and went OVER THE TOP so to speak.

Did the unexpected to TRIGGER events.

Imagine Dionysus starting an army of
Maenads and Satyrs, again.

“The Lost Book of Enki” demonstrates that some of these Demons are more than capable when it comes to combat and warfare.


1/17/2007 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I myself have been trained to kill if need be from an early age by my father.

It is our birthright to be able to defend and protect ourselves and our loved ones.

How can the government punish us when they do the same.

If they would pratice what they preach.

But they lie and distort the facts.

Their teachings show you how to be a slave.

We listen to no man.

Only Dionysus


1/17/2007 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I read and read books its all there if you can see."

hehehehehee... and when will you start to learn to think, I mean for yourself and not for Satan.

1/17/2007 07:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are profane.

1/17/2007 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We take our order from Satan only.

If he desires our service we provide the gateway for him.

You are wasting your time.trying to be cute.

1/17/2007 08:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever he shall order we shall do.


1/17/2007 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"My feeling is that it's in the living in obvious lies that builds the psychosis of America. Maybe if the guys running the show all came out and said, "Hey Citizens, we all want to live comfortable lives of mass consumption so we're going to kill lots of foreign people and live fat, lazy life styles with the creature comforts made from their oil reserves." Maybe if I saw everyone voting for this openly, I could go along with it."

Concur. Better an honest rapacity than a schizophrenic madhouse. If our syphilization is to be built upon barbarism, then let's be plain-spoken about it. If it's to be "blood for oil," then let's proclaim it from the rooftops (or gas pumps).

Sounder's comments also germane. How can the people be blamed. We dehumanize the public ourselves when we refer to them as "sheeple." Perhaps "sheeple" is a term introduced not by contemptuous militia-men, but by the elites themselves. It expresses perfectly the contempt the elites feel for the unwashed mass, whereas deep down the militia dude felt sorry for his brothers, even if they had let themselves get fat and soft and adle-witted.

But there is another, complicating factor in the idea of open, honest, in-your-face imperialism. It's that the US congress appears, at least on some level, to be in thrall to a foreign power. [editor: who can Oarwell mean? Luxembourg? Atlantis? The fish-folk of Sirius?) And that makes "full disclosure" rather nettlesome.

There is a note of humor, I suppose--look at the toilet bugs the "establishment" arrays around itself as its defenders: Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glen Blecch
(turn the sound off with GB and you will see the face of a torturing, leering, pitiless interrogator: frightening to behold), each with the black crow of their foul Master gnawing at their dessicated souls.

1/17/2007 08:41:00 AM  
Blogger Syn Diesel said...



1/17/2007 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A couple of observations.

1.) Isn't the shit always hitting the fan?

2.) Surely some of you remember this line from the Final Cut; "taught how to feel good then told......to feel bad." Well, at RI it's reversed. We are taught how to feel bad then told........to feel good.

Talk about confusing.

Also, I refuse to be held accountable for the dehumanization of the masses. That's part of the damn problem. No accountability. We're talking about Jello Pudding Pops who are quite content being flavored gelatin. In fact, they exhibit downright hubris whilst flaunting their soggy flaccidity which only adds insult to injury. If "they" are victims it is because "they" have allowed "themselves" to be victims. It takes two to tango.

The above in no way excuses the actions of the PTB....instead, it asserts that conquering the alleged PTB will not cure the disease. It appears to be a product of Civilization.

1/17/2007 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Oval office is in the shape of a nice vagina, Isis.

The obelisk is a big penis it is from Osiris.

The layout of the city is a pentagram with circle at each end, designed by a Mason who got pissed off and went back home.

The Masons go back to the Dionysian Mystery Schools.

They were not Jews but when Cyrus the Great allowed the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem , they were there to help make it happen, they had much knowledge.

The pentagon is where the engineers of destruction work, it used to called the WAR Department.

Make Love
Make WAR

Mighty Isis

1/17/2007 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Tree of Liberty demanded blood!!

Jefferson never shut up about his agrarian designs for America and they were not afraid to pay the price to achieve it.Tories need not apply.

Over 3000 dead+, but we see them not coming in to DAFB because we are not Spartan enough to handle the demands of Liberty.They know the power of televion wary since Vietnam.
I mean are you embedded (controlled by Pentagon).

The Founders placed much emphasis on Freedom and Liberty.This over security at any price Franklin uttered

Then of course there is the judeo-christian ethics that have no relation to the above.

Now we have lost freedoms with the new neverending war on terror that that supercedes the war on drugs which is still in effect seeking control.

Those who want the opposite.


1/17/2007 10:36:00 AM  
Blogger RobertS said...

"The lies are not apparent to the masses...."

"The lies" vary from the obvious to the artful to the virtually invisible to the absurd to the alien to the 'normalized', integrated, accepted, even beloved.

"Not apparent" varies from the utterly invisible to King Kong in the closet.

"The masses" suggests a large number of others that are without individuality - thus a non-existent, a 'lie' or absurdity, and an abusive term.

As IC understands better than most, one can also have faith in the mass, with each member endowed with individual competence, capable of mundanely cutting a Gordian knot, or more spectacularly using a twig from an apple tree to find gold; or socially coalescing to do any manner of good.

We brainwashed commoners are also much other than brainwashed, and never more than an instant away from wakedness and common sense, and it has been my experience, consistent, frequent, if not without exception, that it is not 'the masses' that are afflicted with that mental condition which precludes something akin to the spectrum of secular epiphany. It appears to me to be precisely (with exceptions) the 'elite' who are most obdurately and perversely and catastrophically unlikely to be pioneers in consciousness, to discard their personally advantageous perch. Powerful people temporarily 'thrive' on lies.

Down here in a tiny corner of the grassroots, it is apparent that the 'masses' are steadily finding and creating more and more healthy soil. That the keepers of Manson's keepers embrace with their itchy tentacles hair-triggered horrendous weapons of mass destruction hasn't escaped our attention. Meanwhile,there's a whole lot of encouraging stuff going on in the soil surrounding the grassroots, and no one knows what will emerge, or what's next.

At the outbreak of World War I the British and German people cheered happily; at the outbreak of World War II the British and German people worried; at the outbreak of the latest attack on Iraq, all around the world 'masses' protested. Trend?

1/17/2007 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eh? Francis Crick was a demonologist??

An unrelated remark, directed to Shrub: you won't ever meet a fatalistic anthropologist. They are aware of human capacities to redefine, reshape and recreate social/cultural systems. Not that I consider you a fatalist, I'm just sayin'.

A somewhat related request: JEFF, please consider an entry on Negri and Hardt ... you could read them like no one else.

For those who've yet to read it: Empire available free.

1/17/2007 11:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Define enemy: who is the REAL ENEMY??? What does it mean to Love your Enemy/ Envision what that would truly be like for each of your unique imagined enemies. Loving them. Just for a moment imagine how that would feel.

I wanted to know if Ea/Enki as the extra terresterial god of creation, meaning he is credited in the Summerian Texts for creating humans with his advanced and evolved knowledge of genetics and DNA coding. Then what God created Enki and all the other gods.??????

It seems to me that God ALL Mighty, Creator of ALL That Exists created demons and Satan….. then He must love His creations as He is the God of LOVE. Then maybe we are meant to Love our demons.

Maybe we could all live in harmony with all these diverse demons and extraterrestrials and just have sex with everyone and be too distracted for more War. (New MYTH)

Hi Jeff,
I am the reader who lives in Haiti, (born in US)…. thought you might like this: WE ARE FAMILY for sure.
There is an article Canadian News.com that scientists have found Extraterrestrial genes in the Human DNA. ( I hope David Icke read this)

This is from The Canadian National News blog Jan. 10 2007

Scientists find Extraterrestrial genes in Human DNA
By John Stokes

A group of researchers working at the Human Genome Project indicate that they made an astonishing scientific discovery: They believe so-called 97% non-coding sequences in human DNA is no less than genetic code of extraterrestrial life forms.

The non-coding sequences are common to all living organisms on Earth, from moulds to fish to humans. In human DNA, they constitute larger part of the total genome, says Prof. Sam Chang, the group leader. Non-coding sequences, originally known as “junk DNA”, were discovered years ago, and their function remained a mystery. The overwhelming majority of Human DNA is “Off-world” in origin. The apparent “extraterrestrial junk genes” merely “enjoy the ride” with hard working active genes, passed from generation to generation.

(There is much more in the article…………….. )

Does anyone here Know what and where and who are the enemy?
Maybe the enemy is us or maybe it is fear…..certainly, not LOVE or the simpler version:

The Creator of the Perfect Plan for Our Salvation. A Plan that most of us have not surrendered to or have even chosen to participate in…but then that is also part of the Plan…

1/17/2007 12:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Adding to my theme above of "the american psychosis" of living in obvious lies, it occurred to me that Joyce's view on art as something that triggers the recognition of the grave and constant in human nature is right on, but I might phrase it differently. It seems to me that Art reveals the things that everyone knows but noone is saying. It is Rembrandt painting the night watch exactly as he sees them and suffering afterwards when those whose vanity has been revealed are awakened to it.

It also often triggers laughter in me. It hits the spot where I have buffered amazingly blatant contradictions from perception until I fell over them in the hallway floor with a cup of coffee in my hand. Bill Hicks comes to mind then since some of you like to quote him as an artist.

The thing is though where I and others have the ability to laugh when the obvious is finally revealed to us. Many of the dumb masses grab torches and pitchforks and chase the monster into the windmill where it's set ablaze.

1/17/2007 12:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous One said:
'The Founders placed much emphasis on Freedom and Liberty.This over security at any price Franklin uttered

Then of course there is the judeo-christian ethics that have no relation to the above.
Now we have lost freedoms with the new neverending war on terror that that supercedes the war on drugs which is still in effect seeking control.

Those who want the opposite.

As great as many of the Founding Fathers were (the anti-federalists especially it seems) as well as the power given by the constitution & bill of rights, an earnest and open minded examination of those times suggest that the common folk of the colonies were mislead into believing that they were truly free of the yoke of the british empire.
What really seemed to happened was a congregation of wealthy colonists protecting their individual business interests against the crown & The British East India Company(BEIC) who were extorting them for other wars.

Look at the Treaty of Paris, which was merely an acqueisce of the King to allow more liberties to the Colonialists.
You'll see that on both 'sides' of the Treaty names are postfixed by 'esqr' which is a noble title esquire( Officer of the King’s Courts) granted by the King. Its worth noting the names: “John Adams, Esqr”, “Benjamin Franklin, Esqr.” and “John Jay, Esqr.”
John Adams was also employed by the BEIC and Alexander Hamilton actually a member at the Inner Courts.
Particularly worth noting is the Treaty of Versailles the year early with the Contract Between the King and the Thirteen United States of North America:

'It is agreed and certified that the sums advanced by His Majesty to the Congress of the United States under the title of a loan, in the years 1778, 1779, 1780, 1781, and the present 1782, amount to the sum of eighteen million of livres, money of France, according to the following twenty-one receipts of the above-mentioned underwritten Minister of Congress, given in virtue of his full powers, to wit...'

This is an agreement to pay back monies owed to the King (Crown), ..hold on a minute, isnt that our defeated foe??!!!
A huge amount of money (18mil) for that time, which was Hamilton's excuse to start a central bank. IIRC,This money owed lead to a tax on Whiskey which lead to the Sedition Act of 1791(?) which completely nullified the apparent rights angry colonists as well as Habeas Corpus in order to impose martial law.
There was an original 13th ammendment passed around 1810 to prohibit Titles of Nobility and Honour (Esquires etc.. members of the BAR especially) for running for office. These early colonialist knew back then what was goin on! ;)
The War of 1812 helped put paid to that with the british burning the Library of Congress. Some more info here: Original 13th Amendment

From there things go down hill rapidly in terms of freedom.. (especially since the Civil War, which didnt really free the slaves as much as produce a new kind of citizen subordinant to the State under the martial law of the Commander in Chief)
As always follow the money! ;)

Another thing worth noting when looking back at the Founding Father's times was the fact that you were really nothing if you didnt own land, you certainly couldnt vote for instance. You were basically a servant if you were white, and a slave if you were black.

Nowadays, you dont own your land (allodial title), the state does, you do own the house on top of it though (real estate). So I guess things have never really changed since those days!
The War on Terror is just another deceit built on top of a mountain of deceit, so itcertainly takes a hell of a lot of BS to make the world go round.
(apologies for bad spelling & grammar!)

1/17/2007 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DNA alien?

Yes we are Lucifer.

Carlos Castenada writes about the enemy , who is keeping mankind enslaved.

They want us spiritually Dead.

Most of you are unable to grasp the truth.

The Eleusinian Mysteries, according to Heckethorn, survived all others and did not cease to exist as an institution until nearly four hundred years after Christ, when they were finally suppressed by Theodosius (styled the Great), who cruelly destroyed all who did not accept the Christian faith. Of this greatest of all philosophical institutions.

Cicero said that it taught men not only how to live but also how to die.

What do you know about the astral?
Do you know you will find out when you die?

We go into the astral and do what we do to prepare us.

Secret Teachings of All Ages: The Ancient Mysteries and Secret Societies, Part Three


1/17/2007 01:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets not forget that the
Manson murders would probably
have gone unsolved, and Charlie's
little band would have kept on
killing , if not for a reporter
for a local news outlet who did
what the cops could not or
would not do. Namely, finding
the bloody clothes and the .22
caliber pistol used in the
killings. At the time of Mansons
arrest he was only charged with
auto theft.

"So I called up the captain,
and said please bring me my wine,
he said we haven't had that spirit
here since 1969"

1/17/2007 01:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That reference about Alien DNA appears dubious, and you left out the most telling part.

1/17/2007 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scientists find Extraterrestrial genes in Human DNA

Do civilizations of advanced human beings exist scattered in the Galaxy?

by John Stokes

Artistic representation from Eyewitness testimony of Asket, the extraterrestrial human woman, reference: www.gaiaguys.net

A group of researchers working at the Human Genome Project indicate that they made an astonishing scientific discovery: They believe so-called 97% non-coding sequences in human DNA is no less than genetic code of extraterrestrial life forms.

The non-coding sequences are common to all living organisms on Earth, from moulds to fish to humans. In human DNA, they constitute larger part of the total genome, says Prof. Sam Chang, the group leader. Non-coding sequences, originally known as "junk DNA", were discovered years ago, and their function remained a mystery. The overwhelming majority of Human DNA is “Off-world” in origin. The apparent “extraterrestrial junk genes” merely “enjoy the ride” with hard working active genes, passed from generation to generation.

After comprehensive analysis with the assistance of other scientists, computer programmers, mathematicians, and other learned scholars, Professor Chang had wondered if the apparently “junk Human DNA” was created by some kind of “extraterrestrial programmer”. The alien chunks within Human DNA, Professor Chang further observes, “have its own veins, arteries, and its own immune system that vigorously resists all our anti-cancer drugs.”

Professor Chang further stipulates that "Our hypothesis is that a higher extraterrestrial life form was engaged in creating new life and planting it on various planets. Earth is just one of them. Perhaps, after programming, our creators grow us the same way we grow bacteria in Petri dishes. We can’t know their motives - whether it was a scientific experiment, or a way of preparing new planets for colonization, or is it long time ongoing business of seedling life in the universe.”

Professor Chang further indicates that “If we think about it in our human terms, the apparent “extraterrestrial programmers” were most probably working on “one big code” consisting of several projects, and the projects should have produced various life forms for various planets. They have been also trying various solutions. They wrote “the big code“, executed it, did not like some function, changed them or added new one, executed again, made more improvements, tried again and again.”

Professor Chang’s team of researchers furthermore concludes that, “The apparent “extraterrestrial programmers” may have been ordered to cut all their idealistic plans for the future when they concentrated on the “Earth project” to meet the pressing deadline. Very likely in an apparent rush, the “extraterrestrial programmers” may have cut down drastically on big code and delivered basic program intended for Earth.“

Professor Chang is only one of many scientists and other researchers who have discovered extraterrestrial origins to Humanity.
Human Genome Project Coordinators find absolute proof of Extraterrestrial contact with 'Earth humans' via DNA evidence.

Professor Chang and his research colleagues show that apparent “extraterrestrial programming” gaps in DNA sequencing precipitated by a hypothesized rush to create human life on Earth presented humankind with illogical growth of mass of cells we know as cancer."

Professor Chang further indicates that “What we see in our DNA is a program consisting of two versions, a big code and basic code.” Mr. Chang then affirms that the “First fact is, the complete ‘program’ was positively not written on Earth; that is now a verified fact. The second fact is, that genes by themselves are not enough to explain evolution; there must be something more in ‘the game‘.”

“Soon or later”, Professor Chang says “we have to come to grips with the unbelievable notion that every life on Earth carries genetic code for his extraterrestrial cousin and that evolution is not what we think it is.”

1/17/2007 01:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Human Genome Project Discovery Implications associated with “Human-looking Extraterrestrials”

The implications of these scientific finds would reinforce claims by other scientists and observers of having contact with ‘off-world' human looking extraterrestrials.

The ‘off-world' human looking extraterrestrial have been claimed to have provided some of the genetic material for human evolution, and that many of these extraterrestrials have allowed some of their personnel to incarnate as ‘star seeds' on Earth in human families. These “star seeds“, “star children” or “star people” are described by Brad and Francie Steiger as individuals whose ‘souls' were formally incarnated on the worlds of other star systems and then traveled to Earth and decided to incarnate here in order to “boost” the spiritual evolutionary development of humanity. Most of humanity would consider this group of extraterrestrials to be ‘benevolent' as described by ‘contactees' such as George Adamski, Orfeo Angelucci, George Van Tassell, Howard Menger, Paul Villa, Billy Meier and Alex Collier who each explain the nature of their voluntary interactions with these human looking extraterrestrials. These “contactees” often provide physical evidence in the form of photographs, film and/or witnesses of their contacts with extraterrestrial races. The most extensively documented and researched contactee is Eduard ‘Billy' Meier who provided much physical evidence for investigators.

Representations concerning ‘Ancient astronauts’

Indeed, ‘ancient astronaut’ writers believe that a race of intelligent extraterrestrial beings visited and/or colonised Earth in the remote past, whereupon they upgraded the primitive hominid Homo erectus by means of genetic engineering to create the human race as we know it: Homo sapiens.

Evidence for this idea is found (a) in the improbability of Homo sapiens emerging so suddenly, according to the principles of orthodox Darwinism; and (b) in the myths of ancient civilisations which describe human-like gods coming down from the heavens and creating mankind ‘in their own image’.Homo sapiens is thus regarded as a hybrid being, incorporating a mix of terrestrial genes from Homo erectus and extraterrestrial genes from an ascribed “race of the gods“.

Prior to the modern age of space travel and genetics, this theory for the origins of humankind could not have been conceived. And even now, in the 21st century, there are many people who would regard it as science fiction. However, in the light of the problems with the orthodox theory of human evolution, the idea of a genetic intervention by an intelligent human-like species (who themselves evolved on another planet over a more credible time frame) does require to be taken seriously as a potential solution to the mystery.

The most famous exponents of the ancient astronaut intervention are the Swiss writer Erich von Daniken and the American writer Zecharia Sitchin. The latter, in particular, has argued the case in great detail.

1/17/2007 01:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Alleged Human ET efforts to promote the unity of humanity through religious spirituality"

Alex Collier further claims that constituents of “Human ETs” seek to “ensure that global humanity evolves in a responsible way without endangering both itself and the greater galactic community of which it is part. “ Exopolitics groups and independent contactees also indicate that constituents of “Human ETs” seek to “uplift human consciousness and to promote the unity of religion.”

Alex Colliers alleged contact with ETs suggest that fundamentalist messages in from Christianity to Judaism to Islam, and other institutionalized religions, as well as outright apparent ‘cult’ groups, have been specifically placed by “hostile elements” to manipulate and control humankind.

Jesus, who many groups allege was a “Human ET” sought to inspire the social consciousness of humankind toward unity, and not to create a “Christian religion”, with its sexually repressive as well as homophobic undertones, which also have been used for the execution of racism, and to legitimate atrocities like the ‘slave trade‘.

ETs who allegedly contacted Alex Collier, also further allegedly stipulate that Jesus did in fact live; and lived out the rest of his life in Massada; and that Jesus was only crucified through the religious doctrine, and myth-making associated with ‘the palms‘.

As far as the “saviour scenario” is concerned, for example, Alex Collier was allegedly told by ETs that it has been put into our belief systems to “disempower us.” The saviour scenario within the dogma of institutionalized religions legitimate the creation of an elite-driven oppressive power structure who appoint themselves as “judgers of morality“. These religious elites have historically used their self-appointed roles to execute a comprehensive system of social controls that complement their joint pursuit of greed-oriented self-aggrandizement with other elites from government to business enterprises.

The alleged efforts of socially progressive Human ETs to inspire the affirmation of the quality-of-living of ‘Earth Humans’ through spiritual and other “emissaries”, have been undermined by the efforts of “capitalists” to exploit such alleged initiatives in the pursuit of an oppressive agenda of greed and fascistic power.

Constituents of Human ETs allegedly seek to “help humanity find freedom from oppressive structures through education and consciousness raising.”

1/17/2007 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Allegations of “Human ET” encounters on Earth

In Dr. Salla’s article “Extraterrestrials Among Us” published in October 2006, he alleges that, “There is startling evidence from a number of independent sources that ‘human looking’ extraterrestrial visitors have integrated with and lived in major population centres up until recently, and this is known by a select number of institutions.

Aside from whistleblower testimonies, like Sergeant Major Robert Dean, a number of private individuals claim to have encountered extraterrestrials posing as ordinary citizens in major cities around the planet.

George Adamski was the first to write about extraterrestrials secretly living among the human population. In his second non-fiction book describing his extraterrestrial contact experiences, “Inside the Flying Saucers“, Adamski discussed how human looking extraterrestrials had established a presence among the human population. “They apparently looked so much like us”, Dr. Salla notes “that they could get jobs, lived in neighbourhoods, drove cars, and could blend in easily with the human population.”

Dr. Salla further notes that “Adamski wrote about how they contacted him to set up meetings that led to his famous flights aboard extraterrestrial vehicles.” But as Dr. Salla explains “While controversy over Adamski’s contact experiences and his credibility continues, Adamski’s UFO sightings and contacts with extraterrestrials were supported by an impressive collection of witnesses, photographs and films that a number of independent investigators concluded were not hoaxes.”

Dr. Salla additionally stipulates that “Adamski’s testimony offers important insights into how extraterrestrials may be living incognito among the human population. After discussing the Adamski case and the strongest evidence supporting it, Dr. Salla in that article further discusses other contactees similarly claiming to have encountered extraterrestrials acting like ordinary citizens. Finally, Dr. Salla in “Extraterrestrials Among Us” examines the official testimony of a number of whistleblowers concerning knowledge that extraterrestrials live among ordinary Earth-bound individuals.

Contact Testimonies of ‘Extraterrestrials Among Us’

Adamski’s famous “Desert Center” meeting with an extraterrestrial emerging from a ‘scout ship’ on November 20, 1952 was apparently seen by six witnesses who signed affidavits confirming Adamski’s version of events in his subsequent book, The Flying Saucers have Landed (1953). In fact, four of the witnesses immediately reported what had happened to a nearby newspaper, the Phoenix Gazette,that published a story on November 24 featuring photos and sketches. The Desert Center encounter was among those of Adamski’s claims regarding extraterrestrial contact that, according to UFO researcher Timothy Good, were “accurately reported,” and “sensible and verifiable”, as footnotes by Dr. Salla. Given the clear supporting evidence supporting Adamski’s first meeting with an extraterrestrial traveling in a scout craft, it is worth examining closely his alleged subsequent meetings with extraterrestrials living on Earth.

In the first chapter of Inside the Flying Saucers, Dr. Salla re-visits Adamski’s testimony of his meeting with two extraterrestrials while he was sitting in the lobby of a Los Angeles Hotel on February 18, 1953.

“I looked at my wrist watch and saw that it said ten-thirty. The lateness of the hour, with still nothing of extraordinary significance having taken place, sent a wave of disappointment through me. And just at this moment of depression, two men approached, one of whom addressed me by name. Both were complete strangers, but there was no hesitancy in their manner as they came forward, and nothing in their appearance to indicate that they were other than average young businessmen… I noted that both men were well proportioned. One was slightly over six feet and looked to be in his early thirties. His complexion was ruddy, his eyes dark brown, with the kind of sparkle that suggests great enjoyment of life. His gaze was extraordinarily penetrating. His black hair waved and was cut according to our style. He wore a dark brown business suit but no hat. The shorter man looked younger and I judged his height to be about five feet, nine inches. He had a round boyish face, a fair complexion and eyes of grayish blue. His hair, also wavy and worn in our style, was sandy in color. He was dressed in a gray suit and was also hatless. He smiled as he addressed me by name. As I acknowledged the greeting, the speaker extended his hand and when it touched mine a great joy filled me. The signal was the same as had been given by the man I had met on the desert on that memorable November 20, 1952. (Described in the book Flying Saucers Have Landed).”

Significant in Adamski’s description is how the two extraterrestrials could pass off as businessmen. Aside from a penetrating stare, nothing struck him as unusual in their appearance. Adamski goes on to explain how he went with them in their car to travel to a remote desert location:

“Together we left the lobby, I walking between them. About a block north of the hotel, they turned into a parking lot where they had a car waiting. They had not spoken during this short time, yet inwardly I knew that these men were true friends. I felt no urge to ask where they proposed to take me, nor did it seem odd that they had volunteered no information. An attendant brought the car around, and the younger man slid into the driver’s seat, motioning me to get in beside him. Our other companion also sat with us on the front seat. The car was a four-door black Pontiac sedan. The man who had taken the wheel seemed to know exactly where he was going and drove skillfully. I am not familiar with all the new highways leading out of Los Angeles, so I had no idea in which direction we were headed. We rode in silence and I remained entirely content to wait for my companions to identify themselves and explain the reason for our meeting.”

“What’s significant here is that the two extraterrestrials possessed a car and knew how to navigate on the newly completed Los Angeles highway system. This is no mean feat and suggests that the extraterrestrials had taken the time to learn the road traffic rules and how to navigate through Los Angeles.”

Dr. Salla indicates in “Extraterrestrials Among Us”, that Adamski further reveals:

“Lights and dwellings thinned as we left the outskirts of the city. The taller man spoke for the first time… His voice was soft and pleasant and his English perfect. I had noticed that the younger man also spoke softly, although his voice was pitched higher. I found myself wondering how and where they had learned to speak our language so well.”

“…We are what you on Earth might call ‘Contact men.’ We live and work here, because, as you know, it is necessary on Earth to earn money with which to buy clothing, food, and the many things that people must have. We have lived on your planet now for several years. At first we did have a slight accent. But that has been overcome and, as you can see, we are unrecognized as other than Earth men. “At our work and in our leisure time we mingle with people here on Earth, never betraying the secret that we are inhabitants of other worlds. That would be dangerous, as you well know. We understand you people better than most of you know yourselves and can plainly see the reasons for many of the unhappy conditions that surround you.”

Dr. Salla indicates also that, “This passage [previous] is significant since it describes how the extraterrestrials have spent years living on Earth, learning the language, getting jobs and mixing with the human population. Furthermore, it appears as though extraterrestrials living among the human population may work in pairs, a kind of buddy system that would make sense in terms of ensuring safety and communications with the home world if an emergency ever occurred. If Adamski is accurate in his recollections and the extraterrestrials are telling the truth, then it would appear that there could be a significant number of extraterrestrials who are living incognito among the normal population in many if not most major cities on the planet. Upon examining other contactee cases and the testimonies of whistleblowers, it does appear as though this is indeed the case.”

Exopolitics groups furthermore provide additional representation that Adamski was not the only one of the contactees making representation that extraterrestrials were blending in with the human population. Howard Menger, for example. also claimed to have been contacted by extraterrestrials posing as ordinary human citizens. In one case, the extraterrestrial was posing as a real estate salesperson and asked Menger to accompany him in one of the extraterrestrial’s vehicle.

In addition to seeking to learn about human values and civilization, it appears that “Human ET” visitors were conducting a low key education effort to promote awareness of their presence to a limited number of individual ‘contactees’.

These “Human extraterrestrial visitors” have been represented has often having as very attractive physical characteristics, with “Human extraterrestrial females” being described as among the most beautiful women that male observers have witnessed.

The “Human extraterrestrials visitors” furthermore have been represented as going to great trouble in learning the indigenous language of the culture they are immersed in, learning how to drive and navigate on highways systems, and taking innocuous jobs over several years.

Extraterrestrials living among us appear to be operating in a manner similar to a “celestial peace corps” where they try to blend in. They presumably wish to learn about Earth culture and behaviour; and to, perhaps, assist in passing on information to selected individuals.

1/17/2007 02:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Representation on Earth Humans relative to “non-Earthbound” humans:

Advanced Human ETs as viewing Earth Humans as barbarians and savages which are a threat to themselves

Alex Collier alleges that ETs revealed to his that there are over 135 other billion human beings in the 8 galaxies closest to ours.

Alex Collier alleges that “The first time I walked on to one of their ships [Human ETs] , a bunch of their children started to run away from me. They knew that I was from Earth.”

“We have a very bad reputation,” Alex Collier indicates, “because we are the only human race in the galaxy that kills itself, that turns on itself. We are the only race [human] that allows itself to live in poverty. We are the only ones who allow members of our race to starve. We are the only ones that allow members of the race to be homeless. We are the only race that would sell itself into slavery. I don’t like the reflection they give me of us. It’s not that they are judging. They just don’t understand why we do it. If anyone’s got an answer for it, I’m open. Yes, we’ve been manipulated by belief systems, but why do we believe these belief systems?”

According to testimony by Alex Collier in associated with alleged ET contacts, Earth Humans “are the only race of human beings which oppresses and kills itself.”

IMHOP: WHT NOT?????? As I said before there are an infinite number of Creations for us to discover. After all we are "only human" How about another MYTH???

1/17/2007 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


"I have allowed the creation of four substances, four times and four corners; because they are necessary things for creatures."

The Black Book of Satan, Chapter IV

The Serpent symbol of Satan also represents the DNA helix of life.

One thing in common to all the mysteries was the serpent, indicating the rising of the kundalini.

The genetic material of most terrestrial organisms and one of two principal types of nucleic acid found in living cells (the other being RNA). DNA is a stable macromolecule consisting (usually) of two strands running in opposite directions. These strands twist around one another in the form of a double helix and are built up from components known as nucleotides. There are 10 nucleotides per turn in the double helix (1 turn = 3.4 nanometer).

Each nucleotide consists of a sugar (deoxyribose)-phosphate section attached to
one of four organic bases – two purines, guanine and thymine, and two pyrimidines, adenine and cytosine. The bases on opposite strands project toward each other like the rungs of a twisted ladder. Complimentary base pairing is highly specific: thymine always pairs with adenine (via 2 hydrogen bonds) and cytosine always pairs with guanine (via 3 hydrogen bonds). This specificity is a direct consequence of the shapes of the bases and is fundamental to terrestrial life since it underlies all aspects of inheritance and gene expression including DNA replication, DNA repair, transcription, RNA splicing, and translation.

The sequence of bases along the length of a DNA strand varies from species to species and from individual to individual, and determines the organism's development (see genetic code) by controlling protein synthesis. Although double-stranded DNA forms the genetic material for most terrestrial organisms, bacteriophages and viruses may use single-stranded DNA, single-stranded RNA, or double-stranded RNA.

That DNA might be able to survive for hundreds of thousands of years in the vacuum of space is suggested by the results of research announced in 1998 by Evan Williams and his colleagues at the University of California, Berkeley.

The Berkeley group concluded that double-stranded DNA could maintain its structure in a vacuum for as long as 35 years at room temperature, and perhaps almost indefinitely in the very low temperatures of space.

DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid)


We euphemise the act of death.

This is civilisations defence against the potential danger of a contrary instinct working in man against the instinct for life, an instinct which is really cunning, calling man towards annihilation with a sweet and strong enticement.

To the civilised mind this instinct is all the more dangerous because in civilised man the raw appetite for life is so much weaker. Which is why it has to suppress the other instinct with every weapon available.

But this suppression isnt always successful. The counter-instinct breaks surface in times of decadence, and manages to overrun the territory of the mind to a surprising degree. Sometimes whole classes of society almost consciously dig their own graves, like the French aristocracy before the Revolution.

Dying is an erotic process, or if you like, a form of sexual pleasure. At least in the perception of ancient cultures.

Our civilisation presents us with a marvellous mental machinery designed to help us forget, for most of our lives, that one day we too will die.

In time we manage to push death out of our consciousness.

whole sets of figurines were displayed in a glass case: dreamy-eyed men, being led onwards by women, and dreamy-eyed women led, or clutched at, by satyrs.

Thats death. Or rather dying. They are not the same thing. They are death demons. The male demons take the women, and the female demons the men. Those Etruscans were perfectly aware that dying is an erotic act.

But I could show you other things too:

portraits of the death-hetaria on various ancient reliefs. Death is a harlot tempting young men, and she is depicted with a hideously vast vagina. And this vagina probably means something more again. We come from it and we return to it, thats what they are telling us. We are born as the result of an erotic act and through a woman, and we have to die through an erotic act involving a woman, the death-hetaria, the great inseparable and contrary aspect of the Earth Mother.. so when we die we are born again.


1/17/2007 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The alien chunks within Human DNA, Professor Chang further observes, “have its own veins, arteries, and its own immune system that vigorously resists all our anti-cancer drugs.”

What? Come on? DNA with its own veins, arteries and immune system? I thought DNA was the building blocks of those things, not the other way around.

Rigor, folks....let's not forget rigor.

1/17/2007 02:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Soldiers of Dionysus

Since Dionysus discovered the precious nectar of the vine, he was resisted by several who opposed the introduction of his rites, and the MAENADS, acting like soldiers, favoured the god and his rites, and fought against his impious enemies.

The MAENADS celebrated this god of delight with hymns, and knowing his rites and having their souls initiated in the Bacchic revels, kept their lives pure, danced in inspired frenzy, and performed holy purifications, accompanying themselves with the heavy beat of drums.

Now how about those Manson girls?

1/17/2007 02:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My apologies for the disjointed nature of this post - there are many things I'd like to address here.

I see a lot of disinformation from the pro-Luciferian posts these days. All this talk about 'kundalini' and 'chakras' smacks of New Age wishful thinking. When was the last time you saw a Yogi studied in a scientific environment? That's right, they don't allow that sort of thing, do they?

On a different note, according to one Rabbinic tradition the original sin was not eating fruit from a tree of knowledge, it was the fiery cherubim Satan seducing Eve in order to conceive Cain. The recollection of this event comes from the occult celebration of the sun (satan) 'fertilizing' the Earth mother (eve) on December 25, whose offspring is symbolically born on the longest day of the year roughly 9 months later.

As far as all the supposed 'alien DNA in our chromosomes, nobody ever asks the obvious question: how much of that was there before the advent of genetically modified foods and retroviruses? And another question nobody asks is this: what is the correlation between blood type and the ruling elites?

1/17/2007 02:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all I talk from experience have you ever opened your chakras?

Next Have you ever experienced KUNDALINI?

Satanism and Kundalini

Bioelectricity, what it is and what it does:

Bioelectricity is also known as the life force, the chi, the body electric, prana, the aura, the spirit, witch power, etc. There are many different names for this energy.

Our bodies run on bioelectricity. Thoughts are electrical impulses in the brain. The brain runs on bioelectricity. When this electricity becomes imbalanced, one has seizures.

The amount of bioelectricity an individual has, determines the degree of their physical, psychological and spiritual health. People, who are ill or depressed, have lesser amounts of bioelectricity. Depression all by itself, is a symptom of too little bioelectricity.

Bioelectricity increases our energy, our immunity to disease, our charisma, instills a positive outlook, and strengthens our thought power. With increased bioelectricity, our thoughts (electrical impulses) become stronger and are more able to manifest themselves in reality.

Some examples of bioelectricity include:

* Buddhist monks, who sat motionless in the street, (protesters), were soaked with gasoline and lit on fire. They continued to sit still and burn to death.

* Martial artists: busting through concrete with their fists, knife hand "karate chop," enduring major, crushing, and lethal blows, unharmed.

* Dim Mak: the deadly martial art of inflicting light specific blows to chi (a variation of bioelectricity) meridians (acupressure points of bioelectric energy flow) during specific times that can cause delayed death, sometimes up to five months later.

* When the mind, through fear, panics, or when one is in a life and death situation, this sometimes enables an individual to lift extremely heavy objects, for example, back end of a car, that under normal conditions, would be impossible.

* Telekinesis- The ability to move objects with the mind

* Pyrokinesis- The ability to set things on fire with the mind

* Electrokinesis- The ability to control objects, such as computers that run on electricity

* Levitation- Some martial arts and yoga masters have the ability to levitate their bodies into the air.

The strength of one’s bioelectricity is the foundation of all magickal success. Old spells with strange ingredients have little or nothing to do with the success of a magickal working, the success depends upon the strength of the mind and the aura (the bioelectrical field) that with proper focus and direction, will affect one's environment and others.

Those known as the Gods (very powerful and advanced extra-terrestrials who have genetically modified their DNA so they don't age), have much of this very energy. Lucifer is known as "the shining one." Many of these Gods "known as Demons" are radiant with this very energy. The hieroglyphs on the walls in the Egyptian temples, tombs and inside the Egyptian Pyramids explain how important this energy is in becoming a God.

Reaching true Godhead is difficult and requires consistent hard work and dedication. Mastery of the mind is essential. The spirit, as long as you are alive, is a part of the physical self. Yes, many of us can astral project (leave our bodies at will), BUT, the physical self acts to empower the soul as long as we are alive. My experience with the dead is they do not evolve in power any more, beyond what they had when they were alive. A spirit remains a spirit until they reincarnate physically. Only through the strength of the soul (powerful bioelectricity), will one ascend into godhood.

Kundalini and the chakras:

Kundalini is the highest form of yoga. It is a god thing. All of the tenets of Yoga, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc., and the western religions, preach helplessness, instruct one on how to be a total victim and try to make sure the results obtained from these disciplines are kept under strict control, if obtained at all. Sacred writings (hiero means "Holy" and glyph means "symbol”) left for us in Egypt (one of the original centers of True Satanism) are instructions for becoming a god.

The objective of mainstream religions, both east and west, is to keep humanity enslaved and powerless. These religions use fear is used as a tool. "Karma" this, and “Karma" that. Satanism does not preach helplessness. Satan is brilliant, fearless, incredibly strong, and defiant. He rebels against limitations placed upon freedom.

The Chakras

There are seven chakras located along the spine that are the most powerful. These are the "seven seals," written about in the Christian bible book of “Revelation.” These are "The seven lamps of fire that burn before the throne of God." They are referred to as "seals" because the enemy aliens sealed them in humanity to prevent our acquisition of godly power and knowledge. We have been cut off from spirituality and the astral world. Thousands of years ago, we were as the Gods, until the earth was attacked and there was “war in heaven.” Our being sealed has caused the human race to degenerate. Imbalances in this energy and blockages, along with holes in the aura cause drug and alcohol addiction, depression, a lack of concern for the feelings of others and other forms of life, abusive behavior and many other things that plague humanity.


The SERPENT OF FIRE is the symbol of kundalini. It lies dormant, coiled at the base of the spine, beneath the Muladhara chakra. The objective is to ascend the serpent (powerhouse of energy) from the base of the spine, through all the seven chakras and out through the crown chakra at the top of the head. In order to do this safely, all seven chakras must be completely open and unobstructed.

In order to handle a large amount of bioelectricity safely, one's body must be strong and all of the seven chakras must be fully open.

Kundalini is the life force and is very sexual in nature. This is the reason the Christian church and other RHP religions ban masturbation and all forms of sex. Sex is the creative power; it is one’s use of the life force to create another human being. When one is trained and adept, the use of this force can be applied to many other objectives.

Hatha (physical) yoga can be a big help in stimulating and opening the chakras and very recommended. By increasing our level of physical flexibility, the life force flows easier. One only needs to look at the stiffness of old age and the ill health that accompanies it, old age precedes death.

There are many different methods of awakening this power. Some of these include:

* Chanting- Vibration is very powerful. The power of sound can break glass, weaken steel, and cement structures. Vibrations cause the chakras to open and stimulate the kundalini at the base of the spine.

* Controlled Breathing (pranyama) - Different methods of controlled breathing are specific to each chakra. We are all aware how important the breath is to the life force. The Egyptian God Thoth has said many times "Life is in the Breath."

* Visualization and concentration- Through visualizing and focusing our minds on each chakra, we can open, close and control them.

* Revamping the bioelectricity ideally, should be done slowly and gradually. One’s physical and spiritual self is accustomed to operating on a certain voltage of bioelectricity.

Increased Bioelectricity:

* Can induce intense bliss.

* Strengthens and intensifies the aura.

* Gives a feeling of lightness, floating, glowing and assists in astral projection (where one wills one's soul to leave one's body and return safely).

* Opens one's mind for spirit contact and telepathic communication. Will enable one to resist disease and also provide the power to heal one's self.

* Protects the immune system.

* Provides the power to work magick- true magick without props- empty handed. This is the art of the true adept. Ceremony is unnecessary.


I know because I speak from

FEAR = Failure


1/17/2007 02:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


There are some things I feel I should mention concerning power meditations. Unfortunately, in life, rarely, if ever, does any serious transformation occur without pain. People who want power- so called supernatural power- will find in most cases, they will have to go through pain in order to achieve this.

Our bodies and minds are used to running on a certain amount of life force. When we begin to make some serious alterations with this very life force, certain nasty side effects can crop up. This is a given and is also individual.

The life force, like any electricity is HOT. BURNING HOT. There are different physical responses to extreme heat within the body. Some which are quite unpleasant. Inflammations, eruptions, burning sensations and so forth are the most common.

Knowledge is everything- to know what can be expected is to understand. One clergy member found his metal pendant that he always wears has become so hot it burned a mark into his skin.

This sort of thing passes, though it can take anywhere from a week or two, to a few years. Once the physical self adjusts, the soul has been completely transformed.

This is no different than strength and mass building through weight lifting. I remember when I first began working out- there were times I couldn't even get out of bed I was so sore. It took a few years, but the bone density and body strength/mass I have are permanent.

Remember, in meditation, the same thing. Unlike physical exercise, once you enter a point, there is no turning back. You can only move foreward. Stopping can be disastrous in some cases. One may lighten up, but this will do little as a certain point has already been crossed.

****Very few, if any articles or materials contain any contraindications concerning the effects of advanced meditation.

1. People who are epilptics or have had any siezures, should either take it EXTREMELY slow or not at all. You are increasing the electricity within the body and the brain- enough said?

Even in normal people, physical adjustments to the increase of electricity can cause mild siezures.

2. Everyone should ALWAYS make sure the air they are breathing in during meditation is clean. Deep breathing is no different than aerobic exercise such as running/jogging and will affect the lungs and system accordingly. Cold air can cause pleurisy, inhaling polluted air, lung problems. Keep this in mind.







This is the awakening stage of the Kundalini. Much wil depend upon the individual. Ones health and any former meditation done in the past. The stronger you are in every respect, the less problems.




Kundalini is individual for everyone. What some people may experience, others may not.

Gopi Krishna writes extensively on the subject. He is said to have suffered much during the transformation, but once this was passed, he experienced extreme bliss beyond anything he had ever known until the day he died.

The greatest obstacle to true spirituality is FEAR. This is where the strong survive the weak. One must have no fear. Father and your Guardian Demon will guide you. They will also push you when necessary. People talk that they want extra-normal ability ad power- this is the way, but nothing comes without pain in this life.


1/17/2007 03:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to extend an invitation to you, Sabrina, to engage in lesbian sex with me and my demon.

My demon is more than fulfilling, but I would like to share with someone who understands.

If you accept, you have to be sure to drink plenty of liquids. It's easy to become dehydrated when you lose copious amounts of fluid.

1/17/2007 03:25:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Funny thing about alien encounters is how you define "alien" & "encounters". Remember all those '50s sci-fi flicks with the brave Dicks saving us (and their grateful Janes, of course) from the tentacled terrors from the vasty deep of outer space? Well, do the POV trick and look at these invaders:

"Those that escaped the fire, were slain with a sword some hewed to pieces, some run through with spears, as they were quickly dispatched and very few escaped. It is conceived that thus destroyed about 400 at this time. It was a fearful sight to see them frying in the fire and the streams of blood quenching the same but the victory seemed a sweet sacrifice and I gave prayers thereof to God, Who had fought so wondrously for them and given them a speedy victory over so proud and insulting an enemy."

Any guesses (doubts?) as to who the invading aliens were? This picturesque description comes from William Bradford, whose misanthropic vileness still occupies most high school textbooks. Thing is, though, that no one reading that shit today responds the way they're supposed to anymore. (For more on the increasingly visible ugliness of this sort of stuff, Howard Zinn's American Exceptionalism is an eye-watering treat.)

But that's not the only place where the Myth is crumbling. Even sluice-gate mavens like Amy Goodman are running stuff like this nowadays: The Government Is Running a Domestic Propaganda Operation... (Yeah, it's only about the phony War On Drugs, but the phoniness of all the other War Ons is the mustard tree of epiphany that is growing from these tiny seeds.)

One day, and probably sooner than the bad guys hope, conversations like this won't just be happening at obscure political and/or para-fill-in-the-blank websites but on actual street corners. When that happens, even the War of the Worlds kind of scary alien stories won't serve anyone's purposes anymore.

Well, except as bedtime stories of how gullible we used to be, of course.

1/17/2007 03:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I always make love after warring.
It is one of my rules.

So when I masturbate myself to climax tonight.All this sextalk got me excited.

I will think of you and your sexy demon friend in bed with me.I will drink a liter water extra too.


We are as bad and wicked as Richard and Shrub saying they do not care about how their love for each other might bother the rest of us.
Later Lover

1/17/2007 03:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous, I posted a correction for your typo which was also there on Megan Marshak's name in the comments of the 8/11/06 "Time Bomb" thread you mention.

Friend of mine in the early eighties once told me she was on a bus in NY with Marshak. She said she couldn't resist saying as she got up to leave, "It's really a very good disguise, most people wouldn't have recognized you." She says all the color drained out of Marshak's face.

1/17/2007 04:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dont believe that pure gnosticism is the answer to the spiritual woes of man.
Its been shown that gnosticism was used to back the protestant reformation with Luther (see his rosey cross seal for instance: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/Lutherrose.jpg)
and with england. Lets not forget gnosticism's (via Luther for example) roots with the formation of
the subserviance to the state and of materialistic traditions in science we have (the founders of the royal society of science were rosicrucians & masons).
Perhaps this is an abuse of mysticism much like the catholic church absuses its mainstream christianity?
Protestantism and gnosticism afaik put importance only in the knowledge & faith of the Holy Spirit for salvation, not in the 'good works' of people.
The medieval renaissance which for a time lightened the dark times of europe back then declared each and every man as divine (just like kings!), and it was only through good works which got man to keep his divinity..as opposed to only learning esoteric mysteries (esoteric? who says!!..other men thats who!))
This was not a good thing for the 'owners' who hated that idea of divinity for everyone more than anything.
Man is divine, and each and everyone has a spiritual gauge regardless of esoteric knowledge or not, (despite a few spiritually sick people who are unable to really experience their spirit talking to them.)
Certainly keeping spiritual knowledge away from people is bad, but again, people must have faith in their spirit (the one holy spirit or whatever you want to call it) and not allow another man to dictate what is divine knowledge and what is not. Virtually everyone knows what the right and good thing is at every moment, it why we have freewill.

..rambling here sorry.

1/17/2007 04:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As for this extraterrestrial DNA story that as Shrub noted, it appeared as early as 2001, and "Professor Chang" seems to fail to publish anything about it or turn up anymore.

As noted at Wikinews talk, it's just a hoax article to play on gullibility:

problems with the article

i can identify at least two.

1. Prof. Sam Chung is identified in the source as the leader of the Human Genome Project, but his name does not figure in [1] or [2], nor does a google search of Sam Chang on ornl.gov lead to any hits. Chang's affiliation is not mentioned in the source.
2. While the presence of uncoding regions in DNA strands is widely accepted in the scientific community, i don't think the "extraterrestrial origin" hypothesis is well, let alone widely accepted. this article and the source, however speak as if the hypothesis is well established, which i think is misrepresenting the matter.

— Doldrums(talk) 17:48, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Moreover "Chang" if he even exists and the whole thing is just not an elaborate hoax article floating about the internet for five years, makes the whole claim based on supposed 'genetic causes' of cancer, when it is widely known that this is false. He jumps wildly from this false statement to the slippery slope that 'damn it, it's got to be aliens.' That's basically the whole article.

For the convoluted logic from false 'genetic cancer' to 'it's alien DNA' read this:

It's faulty on assumptions that end up as 'fact terms' throughout the article (like 'non-coding' DNA--which may not be non-coding at all; it's a misnomer 'assumption masquerading as a fact term', about an open debate if you bother reading other things).

And anything that comes from the 21st century biowarfare eugenics groups around the Human Genome Project is evil granted that it is true article (which I doubt.).

However, I think the idea of extraterrestrial influences on human development is a worthy hypothesis and possibly likely only that our unpublished "Professor Chang" failed to provide evidence of that; his 'genetic cancer' meme seems really bizarre to jump from that to (smacks fist) "Boys! We're dealing with aliens!"

Some quotes from the hoax 'article' that got my goat:

A group of researchers working at the Human Genome Project [er, it really ain't a group, it's just our unfindable "Professor Chang" mentioned] indicate that they made an astonishing scientific discovery: They believe [WHY?] so-called 97% non-coding sequences [HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY ARE 'NON CODING', THAT'S JUST A PHRASE WHEN OTHERS SAY THEY ARE JUST RESERVE CODING OR DEALING WITH IMPORTANT CONSERVED FIRST TRIMESTER SORT OF GROWTH, IMPORTANT TO TURN ON THEN KEEP OFF? the whole term 'non-coding' is suspect, open and a mistake to base an argument on it being something established as 'non-coding'] in human DNA is no less than genetic code of extraterrestrial life forms.


Non-coding sequences, originally known as "junk DNA", [AND NOW FALSELY CALLED 'NON-CODING'...OPEN DEBATE] were discovered years ago, ...

The apparent “extraterrestrial junk genes” [A HA! HE WORD 'APPARENT' AS A CAVEAT HERE] merely “enjoy the ride” [THEIR ASSUMPTION ONCE MORE WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE] with hard working active genes [WHY ASSUME; HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IN ALL CASES THEY ARE CAPABLE OF BEING CATEGORIZED AS NEBULOUS, ALWAYS INACTIVE, OR UNREQUIRED?], passed from generation to generation.

The alien chunks [NOW ONCE MORE 'FACT' NOW INSTEAD OF 'APPARENT'] within Human DNA, Professor Chang further observes ['OBSERVES'?], “have its own veins, arteries, and its own immune system that vigorously resists all our anti-cancer drugs.” [THAT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL AS SHRUB NOTED; IT STARTS GET LOGICALLY INCONSISTENT EVEN WITH ITS ALIBI--IS IT 'NON-CODING' STORY OR SUDDENLY THEY CAN SOMEHOW IDENTIFY WHAT IT CODES FOR THEN IT IS CODING? NONSENSE FROM THE FIRST LINE.]

[UNIDENTIFIABLE AT ORNL.GOV] 'Professor Chang' further stipulates that "Our hypothesis is that a higher extraterrestrial life form was engaged in creating new life and planting it on various planets. [THIS IS METAPHYSICS INSTEAD OF SCIENCE. I MAY HYPOTHESIZE THAT A BLANK PIECE OF PAPER SLID UNDER MY FRONT DOOR IS FROM ALIENS, THOUGH I DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE OF THAT AND NEITHER DOES 'PROFESSOR CHANG' FOR HIS HYPOTHESIS.]

Professor Chang’s team of researchers furthermore concludes ['CONCLUDES'? FROM WHAT?!] that, “The apparent “extraterrestrial programmers” may have been ordered...[HAHAHA]

Professor Chang is only one of many scientists and other researchers who have discovered extraterrestrial origins to Humanity. [NAME THEM THEN.]

Human Genome Project Coordinators find absolute proof of Extraterrestrial contact with 'Earth humans' via DNA evidence. [NAME IT THEN.]


Professor Chang further indicates that “What we see in our DNA is a program consisting of two versions, a big code and basic code.” Mr. Chang then affirms that the “First fact is, the complete ‘program’ was positively not written on Earth; that is now a verified fact. [NO IT'S NOT.]

The second fact is [NO ITS NOT] , that genes by themselves are not enough to explain evolution; there must be something more in ‘the game‘.” [EVIDENCE LACKING HERE.]

In conclusion, our Professor Chang reminds me of Don Quixote:

“At this point they came in sight of thirty or forty windmills that are on a plain, and as soon as Don Quixote saw them he said to his squire, “Fortune is arranging matters for us better than we could have shaped our desires ourselves, for look there, friend Sancho Panza, where thirty or more monstrous giants present themselves, all of whom I mean to engage in battle and slay, and with whose spoils we shall begin to make our fortunes; for this is righteous warfare, and it is God’s good service to sweep so evil a breed from off the face of the earth.” “What giants?” said Sancho Panza. “Those thou seest there,” answered his master, “with the long arms, and some have them nearly two leagues long.” “Look, your worship,” said Sancho; “what we see there are not giants but windmills, and what seem to be their arms are the sails that turned by the wind make the millstone go.” “It is easy to see,” replied Don Quixote, “that thou are not used to this business of adventures; those are giants; and if thou art afraid, away with thee out of this land and betake thyself to prayer while I engage them in fierce and unequal combat.” –from Don Quixote, by Cervantes

'Don Chang's' version would be:

“At this point they came in sight of thirty or forty factually established non-coding DNA codons, and as soon as Don Chang saw them he said to his squire lab assistant, “Fortune is arranging matters for us better than we could have shaped our desires ourselves, for look there, friend Grad Student Sancho Panza, where thirty or more monstrous alien DNA non-coding pieces are in the heart of all life itself and they are presenting themselves to us for all to see, all of whom I mean to engage in battle and slay, and with whose government grant spoils we shall begin to make our fortunes; for this is righteous warfare, and it is God’s good service to explain to the world that these Alien DNA non-coding pieces have to be extraterrestrial." “What alien DNA?” said Sancho Panza. “Those thou seest there,” answered his master, “with the extraterrestrial silent inactive genes, and some have these codons that take up to 97% of all human and other species life.” “Look, your worship,” said Sancho, backing up for the door of the lab; “what we see there are not alien DNA but an open debate on the purpose of this common 97% or so DNA across almost all species on the planet, and what seem to you to be an argument for alien origins are really an open question you haven't demonstrated.” “It is easy to see,” replied Don Chang, “that thou are not used to this business of government grants; those are alien DNA; and if thou art afraid, away with thee out of this land and betake thyself to prayer while I engage in rewriting all of biology.” –from the future manuscript Don Chang, The Adventures of an Alien DNA Researcher

1/17/2007 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Prometheus, you are glad that you have outwitted me and stolen fire ... but I will give men as the price for fire an evil thing in which they may all be glad of heart while they embrace their own destruction." [Zeus to Prometheus 1. Hesiod, Works and Days 55]

1/17/2007 05:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well IC...

You'll have to forgive me if I don't find the notion of more Charlie Mansons running amok as being a cure for anything, not that there aren't some inescapable conclusions about the same shortcomings allowing or even encouraging more of them to do so just as easily today.

The need to control is itself pathological, so too is any need to deliberately punish or see harm come to others for what we percieve as their mistakes.

That is obviously not the same thing as quarantining such elements within our society as humanely as possible or making sincere and genuine efforts to try and restore them or help them, as much as possible, to redeem themselves.

What we come to believe and fear most about others invariably reflects what we believe and fear most about ourselves.

What we consistently fail to see is that the furtive thoughts and forbidden desires of our own that we do not, and for the most part are incapable acting upon outside of our imagination are not merely a natural part and product of what we are as social creatures, we have very valid reasons for having them if we are brave enough to seek them out and face up to them rather than fearfully trying to hide them from ourselves or deny their very existence... to try and convince ourselves we are somehow "better" than those that have exposed the same kind of futive thoughts or forbidden desires to the harsh light of day by daring to act upon them; or unwittingly heaping our own sense of guilt, shame, and disgust at our own as much as their's onto their shoulders at the very same time for it.

We may all be equally human but the allottment of talents and abilities that falls to each of us is uniquely our own just as all the circumstances of our individual experiences are.

We discount and devalue all that is good and qualitative in our own lives when we judge others as if those factors were somehow inconsequential or irellevent to who and what anyone is when they are exactly what makes each of us who and what we are.

Manson, for instance, had the inauspicious beginnings of being the unwanted child of a sixteen year old Cincinatti street-walker, scarcely more than a child herself in those "dirty 30's", and went steadily downhill from there.

He was the unintended by-product of any number of cruel fates in the extremely harsh, cruel, and ultilitarian times in which he was born. Times when fear, force and threats were the only tools for reinforcing any sense of conformity or social reponsibility on an "or else" basis that offered no relief at all from the grinding depression and abject poverty, particularly to any who were on the very rock bottom, as Manson clearly was, to begin with.

The Tate-LaBianco murders made no sense simply because those who planned and committed them were completely irrational and delusional to begin with. Nevertheless that sense of All-American Justice was hardly going to let a little item like that stand in it's way...hmmm?

Manson's trial wasn't a trial at all but an attempt to rationally dissect the irrationality of it all as if by simply doing so it could somehow bring those murders into some realm of simple "motivated ordinariness" wherein Manson could be put to death for them. That was all that was genuinely wanted and all it produced.

We saw the same kind of travesty with the attempts to convict Patty Hearst before rather than after convening any hearing to evaluate the equally unusual circumstances of her re-appearance or how she fell into the hands of the law when it was already a well established fact that she had been forceably kidnapped.

It was sheer luck that saw Manson's sentence commuted or us left to still ponder the nature of what actually took place and whatever message we might find in that altogether bizarre and misplaced case of jurisprudence it has always been.

But who might we say was really responsible for Manson being the way he was or even being at large at the time to begin with?

By what stretch of the imagination could any of us ever consider him "sane" in any sense, legally or otherwise?

He had been under the thumb of one reformatory or another and only intermittent periods of parole in between from the tender age of twelve. He was obviously known to be both mentally unstable and incorrigible from that time on.

What set up that permamnent and relentless cycle of punishment-crime-punishment-crime that was simply allowed to escalate over the next twenty years untill only sensless murder and mayhem were left?

As I said, the need to control and punish are themselves pathological, when combined with Manson's own clearly pathological tendencies the results became what they could only ever become... magnified to an extreme.

Manson's insanity was never feigned or faked, it had followed him throughout his entire life steadily growing and taking hold of him. It wasn't that no one ever saw or didn't know about it.

The bottom line was that no one ever cared about Charlie or his problems beyond doggedly punishing him over and over in some vain attempt to make him let go of them never once seeing just how much tighter they clung to him with every repeated visit.

Btw that 80% of the hospital beds that mental patients occupy is merely all that can be spared at the moment and by no means enough.

No one has dared to do a profile on to what extent prison cots are used to take up that overflow or just how large it may actually be either. Manson is one for certain.

1/17/2007 05:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Teresias also tried, being a seer, to show the king that revelry and madness may have in them prophetic skill.

He advised Pentheus 1 to celebrate the rites of Dionysus 2, for, he said,

"the power that government may have over men is weaker than the power of the god when he enters the body in full force."

And as to the corruption of women, Tiresias added:

"Dionysus will not compel women to be modest in regard to Aphrodite, but in nature, where modesty always dwells, you must look for that. For she who is modest will not be corrupted in Bacchic revelry." [Tiresias to Pentheus 1. Euripides, Bacchanals 315]

Tiresias was supported by old Cadmus, but Pentheus 1 was not likely to be persuaded, for when power goes along with arrogance it sees a foe in whatever or whoever escapes its limitless thirst for control.

And since Pentheus 1 could not see in Dionysus 2 but an effeminate stranger corrupting the women and polluting the Theban beds, he just thought that it was time to invent yet a third way of executing the stranger, and so he thought that stoning him would be appropriate.

But, as it has been said, who can think of cutting heads, hanging, or stoning to death, but an insolent maniac?

For this was not a god of destruction and lawlessness, in whose banquets the guests wore garlands, and joined in dances, laughing with the music of the flute.

This was a God who brought relief from all cares, for life is short;
and by permanently pursuing great things, there are many who do not achieve what is present,
and they themselves would not deem many other things better than having their hearts soothed by both Aphrodite and Dionysus 2. For these have led many to the presence of the MUSES and the CHARITES, and have calmed their Desire.

Dionysus 2 does not know of ugly strife, but instead is a lover of Peace, who nourishes youth and gives riches.
That is why Dionysus 2 abhors only those, who unable to keep away from the over-wise, do not care about leading a happy life by day and by night.

Pentheus 1 was not a reasonable man, but instead an arrogant ruler with confused ideas about law and order. So he sent guards in order to release the garlands to the winds, and to carry bound in the chains of the public prison those who wore them. And that is how Dionysus 2 himself, looking as a Bacchant, was taken chained to the king, who neither appreciated his long hair scattered over his cheeks, nor his soft skin, nor his whole appearance, which Pentheus 1 judged to be 'hunting after Aphrodite'.

This is what happened when the MAENADS were left in peace. But when they were ambushed and persecuted by the king's men, they could tear apart whoever came in their way, man or animal. For when the guards escaped their fury, the women sprang on the heifers, and rent asunder the calves, while others tore apart cows and stumbled fierce bulls to the ground. And in the same way, resembling soldiers, they could fall upon towns, turning everything upside down, and snatching the children from their homes. And they could also carry heavy objects on their shoulders without holding them with bounds, and they were seen carrying fire on their locks without being burned. And when those who were thus plundered by the MAENADS opposed them with their arms, they were unable to wound them, for no blood came forth when they were touched by weapons, whereas the MAENADS continuously wounded their enemies by hurling the thyrsoi at them.

So seeing how unarmed women were defeating armed men, some began to understand that such things cannot be achieved without the help of a god, and that is why they exhorted Pentheus 1 to do as follows:

"Receive this god then, whoever he is, into this city, master. For he is great in other respects, and they say this too of him, as I hear, that he gives to mortals the vine that puts an end to grief. Without wine there is no longer Aphrodite or any other pleasant thing for men." [Messenger to Pentheus 1. Euripides, Bacchanals 770]

Helmets better than wreaths

But why should the king let himself be humiliated by weak women, when he had shield-bearers,riders, horses, and the power to deploy them and stage a devastating assault? This original thought occurred in the mind of Pentheus 1, and he decided to order such an attack in an attempt to make a great, and as some would say 'historic' slaughter of the women. For clashing cymbals, tricks of magic, hysterical cries, drunkenness, and vulgarity, he thought, are nothing compared to drawn swords, trumpets, horsemen, and lines of spears. And all the same, helmets are a better shelter than garlands or wreaths.

Hopes to watch what will disgust him

But before he passed into action, he was persuaded by Dionysus 2, who was disguised as a priest of his own rites, to go first and spy the MAENADS in the woods, being advised by the god to go dressed as a woman, for otherwise they would kill him. And when he came, hiding as spies do and (strange enough) hoping to watch what would disgust him, that is, the shameful acts of the MAENADS, Dionysus 2 placed him on the top of a pine, thus exposing him, and ordered the women to punish him.

Torn limb by limb

And Pentheus 1's own mother Agave 2, for she and her sisters, having lost their minds, were among the MAENADS, was the first to fall upon him, having dragged him down.

And seizing one of his arms at the elbow and propping her foot against her son's side, she tore out his shoulder, for that is the kind of strength that the god bestows on his followers.

Having torn him limb from limb, one of the MAENADS bore one arm, another a foot, and his ribs were stripped bare from their tearings.

When Pentheus 1 was thus turned into pieces, they started playing a game of catch with his flesh, while Agave 2 fixed the king's head on the end of a thyrsos, carrying it through Mount Cithaeron and believing she had hunted a savage lion.

It was not until later, when she recovered her mind, that she learned what she had done to her son.

This is how Dionysus 2 punished both Pentheus 1, his mother, and her sisters, letting them destroy each other by means of their own violence, and joining all of them in one ruin for having failed to revere him as a God.


1/17/2007 05:53:00 PM  
Blogger jurassicpork said...

Thanks much for the post about Jabr. There's so much and so mmany people to keep track of both here and in Iraq, it's easy to miss something or someone. I can't see why, however, more people haven't blogged or written in the press about Jabr. It's obvious that that madman has to go.

The pic of the Devil's Rejects was also quite kewl. If I had Photoshop, I probably would've done much the same thing.

1/17/2007 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From McGowan's book Programmed to Kill: The Politics of Serial Murder, on the section of Manson, there are common features to many government agent MKULTRAs

In p. 137 onward, on Manson:

Charles Milles Manson was born "no Name Maddox, the son of an alcoholic teenage prostitute. His mother was imprisoned for armed robbery when Charles was just a toddler, so the boy was sent to live with his grandparents. Following that, he lived for a time with an aunt and uncle in Virginia, who sent him off to his first day of school dressed as a girl, just as [other governmental protected 'project' killer] Henry Lee [Lucas's] mother had done.

At age nine, he was sent to stay at the Gibault Home for Boys--a 'reform' school in Terra Haute, Indiana. Three years later, the pre-teen boy was living alone in a single room at a boarding house, until he was discovered by authorities. How he came to be living alone remains something of a mystery...


Charles next found himself housed at Boy's Town, identified in the Franklin Cover-Up as a cesspool of [high governmental] pedophilic operations.


...Charlie even reportedly served as a 'religious consultant' for Universal Studios on a movie about Christ, and also auditioned to be one of "The Monkeys." He was also deeply involved in a number of criminal enterprises, well before the consecutive bloodbaths that thrust him into the national limelight. As author Joel Norris has noted, Charlie was "a drug dealer and a contract killer," and "had become involved in underworld crime, murder-for-hire rings, and child pornography." Interestingly enough, Manson has said that the Family's most well known victims were involved in some of the same enterprises: "Don't you think those people deserved to die? They were involved in kiddie porn." Charlie had also, as previously noted, allied himself with various satanic cult groups [many connected to CIA MKULTRA operations]....

Manson was also involved in the production and distribution of snuff films.

In the aftermath of the Tate and LaBianca killings, the LAPD, one of whose officers co-owned the auto shop that Charlie lived in just a few months before the murders...

...When the Sheriffs passed along to the LAPD the information they had obtained from their informants, L.A's finest proceeded to do absolutely nothing. [Then the LAPD is described as 'losing' the murder weapon that was found and turned in.] The department later sent out a [fake 'we're doing something'] flying with a photo of the weapon, failing to realize that they already had the gun in their custody. It took a phone call from the father of the boy who had found the gun to get the department to acknowledge its existence [as already in their possession, despite the lie of the 'help us find it' flyer they just put out], and even then, the caller was initially told that the gun had probably been destroyed [even though they had just put out a flyer claiming that they were looking for it.]

Elsewhere, Family member Susan Atkins had been arrested on unrelated charges and was spending time in the Sybil Brand Institute for Women. While there, she gave detailed confessions of the murders to at least two fellow inmates. She claimed that the Family had already committed eleven murders, and "many more were going to die." Both of these women tried to pass this information along to the LAPD, but both were repeatedly denied permission to do so. This was in spite of the fact that one of the female jailers to whom these requests were made was at the same time [conveniently holding off...] dating one of the Tate case homicide detectives [What are the odds then, they are watching these people then, though refusing to do anything.]

It would appear then that the LAPD had, among other evidence, all of the following at its disposal: the eyewitness account of a participant in the crimes; the gun used in the crimes; and the statements of two close associates of the killers directly implicating them in the crimes. Yet they chose not to act on any of this for a period of several months.

Though no 'serial killer/mass murderer' in history has likely achieved the level of notoriety, or generated the volume of media coverage, that Charles Manson has, many of the most compelling facts of the Manson case remain largely unknown to the public. Of particular significance, perhaps, are the myriad levels on which the killers and the victims were connected. One of those connections were provided by none other than Anton LeVey....

Interestingly enough, LaVey had connections to the victims as well. He had formed a close association with Roman Polanski shortly before the murders when he served as the technical consultant for Polanski on the film "Rosemary's Baby," in which he also made a cameo appearance as--who else?--Satan....

...Another connection was provided by the Esalen Institute, a 'new age' retreat in Monterrey with ties to Crowley enthusiast Timothy Leary's like-minded Himalayan Academy. Manson had ties to both.


Another connection between killers and victims was provided by their shared interest in drug trafficking.


The Manson family was also heavily involved in drug dealing, including trafficking in LSD [the MKULTRA favorite], hashish, marijuana and cocaine. Just a couple of days after the killings, Manson was seen driving a black Mercedes Benz possibly owned by an underling of a man named Ronald Stark. Around that same time, Start assumed the role of banker for the 'Brotherhood of Eternal Love', a tax-exempt 'church' that was formed by a motorcycle gang with close ties to Timothy Leary. The Brotherhood was led by a man named "Farmer" John Griggs. [However, the money control just changed hands from Griggs suspiciously, to Stark:] At the same time as the Tate murders, Griggs allegedly overdosed on PCP at the group's Idyllwild, California. A month earlier, a teenage friend of Leary's daughter had been found drowned at the ranch. The death [or murder] of Griggs resulted in a massive shake-up at the organization that resulted in the shadowy Stark becoming 'the Brotherhood's' sole banker and money manager. Under Stark's guiding hand, the Brotherhood became the largest known producer and distributor of LSD in the world, producing some 50 million doses. Start was also closely linked to a parallel acid-producing operation in the UK dubbed the "Microdot Gang," which likewise produced millions of hits of LSD in the early 1970s. While running his empire, Stark was known to have extensive contacts with American embassy personnel and to have frequent visitors from both the British and American consulates.

Were the Manson killings in reality....the result of an operation aimed at, among other things, killing off some competitors, intimidating others, and consolidating control of the hallucinogenic drug market?

The possibility clearly exists.

Police originally were drawn to the theory that the killings were drug related.

Other early theories were that the killings were occult inspired, or that the true motive could be found in what was dubbed 'fame-porn.'

Films and videos found at the Polanski home suggested an elite Hollywood wife-swapping [and covert secret filming/blackmail] operation [that perhaps was about to be ratted upon, so they killed them off]. The
Folger/Frykowski home also yielded a box of erotic photographs [blackmail] of Hollywood's elite.


One mistaken impression that many people have about the Manson case is that the homes where the attacks took place were largely chosen at random.

That was hardly the case.

Manson was very familiar with the Polanski/Tate home, which he had visited in the past [as well as all the other homes and their owners, some of which he was invited to their LSD parties..] attended by Charlie and his followers before the murders.

Manson [was then] ultimately arrested in charges unrelated to the murders on Oct 12, Alister Crowley's birthday, following a raid on the Family's compound, and was only later [conveniently scapegoated] and charged in connection to the killings....

When the Manson case came to trial, there were the usual strange occurrences that seem to plague all [rigged scapegoat 'lone nut' or 'single bullet' sort of theories, of which the theme of] 'serial killer' trials [are just another artificial creation like those other two: three artificial memes that under any slight analysis entirely fall apart.]

The lead defense attorney, Ronald Hughes, had just passed the bar and had yet to try a single case. He was, needless to say, a rather odd choice to spearhead the defense of one of the most vigorously prosecuted and high-profile murder cases of all time.

Hughes soon went missing, and later turned up dead on the very day that death sentences were returned...

Family member John Philip "Zero" Haught, not charged with playing a role in the murders [and thus unable to be sent away] turned up dead on the very day that death sentences were returned...

Another member of the Family [seen worthy of MKULTRA promotion and 'promise'?] was whisked away to Patton State Hospital, which was reportedly deeply immersed in overt behavior modification experiments in the 1970s.

Perhaps the most troubling aspect of the trial was that the defense team rested their case without bothering to actually present one. Courtroom viewers were stunned when not a single witness was called to rebut the prosecution's case....

Also of note is that then-President Richard Nixon [was told to frame him as well] declared Manson guilty on national television, nearly causing a mistrial, but ultimately greatly aided the prosecution's efforts.

Perhaps in no other serial killer case has the subject of mind control played a more central role. That Charlie had a remarkable ability to control his followers is a well-established and widely acknowledged fact. Even more remarkable is that Manson had maintained much of that control from inside a prison cell for over thirty years....In fact, the control that he had over his disciplines was the primary basis for [railroading] Manson's murder convictions. While it was Charlie's face that came to symbolize the killings, he did not personally participate in the Tate/LaBianca murders.

According to the official version of events, he was not even present at the crime scenes when the murders took place; he merely suggested to his followers what they should do, and they obligingly followed his commands.

In order to convict Manson [for 'suggesting' murder?], it was necessary for the prosecution [faced with a rigged, under threat 'defense' attorney, later murdered] to convince the jury [helped by Nixon presidential encouragement, that trustworthy source of truth] that the actual killers were virtually powerless to disobey their leader. For this reason, the Manson trial had no real precedent in American legal history.

Manson, the hypnotist, received the death penalty, the maximum sentence in the State of California, and so too did the actual murders. Legally and logically, that verdict made little sense. For if Manson's control was so complete that the killers were powerless to resist his commands, then they should not have been held legally accountable for their actions. And if Charlie did not wield such power, then he should not have been held responsible for the actions of others. Prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi did not address that inherent contradiction in his prosecution strategy in his widely read book, Helter Skelter.

He did ponder, albeit briefly, how Manson gained such control over his subjects. He concluded that that remains "the most puzzling question of all." Indeed.


While pondering the question of how Manson was able to exert such control, Bugliosi largely ignores a perhaps even more important question: where did Charlie learn the techniques that he was obviously so skilled at? Bugliosi notes only that it "may be something that he learned from others," which, of course, is only stating the obvious.

The question not asked, either in the book or at the 'trial' [in which the defense attorney was murdered after presenting zero rebuttals to railroad a pre-determined solution], is: where were these others?

One possible answer can be found among the personnel at the Haight-Ashbury Free Clinic in the late 1960s.

Two employees of the clinic--Dr. Roger Smith, a research criminologist who had started the clinic's drug treatment program, and Dr. David Smith, who founded the clinic itself--were both involved in government-sponsored research on human behavior. Both had connections to Manson and his followers.

In fact, Roger Smith was Charlie's parole officer.

Another question never addressed by Bugliosi is how it was possible that a man of limited education, who had spent the majority of his life behind bars, somehow acquired those skills while U.S. intelligence agencies, after investing countless millions of dollars in decades of research aimed at attaining that very same goal, have allegedly met with nothing but failure.


If Charlie was in fact controlling the Family, the logical question to be asked at trial was : who was controlling Manson? Was Manson himself a puppet, as well as a puppeteer? That question, naturally, was never raised and so remains largely unanswered to this day. Perhaps Bugliosi felt that question unimportant, given that, according to his book, "The Manson case was, and remains, unique."

['"Parole officer" drug behavior modification government scientist'] Dr. Roger Smith saw things a little differently. In December 1969, he told Life magazine: "There are a lot of Charles running around, believe me."


In other words, don't concentrate on Manson or the so called 'serial killers' railroading trials or media pronouncements. That's what they want you to do. Concentrate on the LAPD infrastructure, police ordered to look the other way, rigged trials, murdered defense attorneys, drug trade consolidation with high level govenment connections, government scientists on drug connected behavioral modification working at 'parole officers,' blackmail sex operations with secret cameras, 'tax free churches' as a cover for drug trade monies and mind control experiments, drug trade and kiddie porn consolidation, with railroaded mental idiots without any defense attorney to speak of conveniently being used as public scapegoat for the whole operation, lumped with 'unexplained, unsolved murders' without connection suddenly being 'explained' with recourse to the construct of 'irrational serial killer', replete with high level media pronouncements attempting to convince everyone that the railroaded scapegoat that 'connects' so many other unrelated and differently related crimes is already guilty, and a thin blue line of government MKULTRA scientists 'watching their experiment run' taking notes, and keeping the project on course.

That's really the sordid theme of commonality in many so-called 'serial killer trials' according to McGowan's excellent book.

1/17/2007 07:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is an important message for atheists and those who consider the occult,
kundalini and the
astral world to be non-existent and/or just plain nonsense:

I know of former atheists and other skeptics who believed Satanism and the occult were nothing but fantasy, products of an over active imagination, and/or unrealistic foolishness.

All of these people wrote to me because they realized to their surprise, Satan is *very* real.

I have also read public articles from varied sources where secular individuals attempted to experiment with the rituals on this website just for kicks. They got blatant experiences all right-- the wrong ones.

Satanism is unlike mainstream religions. Those who open their minds to Satan *will* experience him.

Unfortunately, Christianity and its cohorts have given people the impression that the spirit/astral world is nothing but bunk.

Little or nothing ever happens spiritually with these religions.

Their anti-life doctrines are all based upon stolen material from religions that preceded them.

This material was altered and twisted to conform to their agenda to spiritually enslave the world; keeping spiritual knowledge and power in the hands of a few.

Satanism is very different. Satanism is in fact, humanity's ORIGINAL RELIGION. Satanism is based upon the ancient religions that predated Judaism and Christianity from hundreds to thousands of years.
Satanism also differs from other modern day religions in that

Satanism is based upon science.

Everything of the occult can be explained scientifically.

Unfortunately, Judeo/Christianity has held humanity back dangerously in the areas of science, technology, understanding of the occult, and knowledge of the soul. Unbeknownst to many, Christianity has always been and is nothing more than a tool used to remove knowledge, especially spiritual knowledge. Our limited understanding of Quantum Physics has revealed a bit about the human soul.

"Kirlian Photography" reveals the fact that we have an aura. Kirlian photography is a specialized form of photography, along the same lines as x-ray imaging.

Satanism is a religion of the mind and the soul. The U.S. Government and other world powers are well aware of this ability within humans and the reality of psychic warfare, though they keep much of this from the public. (References are at the bottom of this page).

Regardless of what you may have been taught to believe or what you are convinced is irrational and nonsensical; Satan and his Demons are VERY REAL.

They are not "evil" as the Christian Church has depicted them to be.

In truth, Satan does not conform to the Christian or Western concept of "evil." "Good" and "evil" are nothing more than cultural concepts; Satan transcends this.

If you are inexperienced, bear this in mind. Regardless of the formal education you might have obtained, put aside everything you have been taught and proceed with respect.

People who are serious and respectful are given the same in kind from Satan and his Demons.

Those who are out for laughs and kicks are inviting disaster.

Satanism is also very different from other religions in that once you open a door to him in your mind, it will be permanent.

Satanism is analogous to a one-way street where you can only go foreward; there is no turning back.

I am not addressing those of you who are here for research or scholastic purposes.

One must perform rituals and/or intentionally act in some way to invite Satan and/or his Demons into one's life. Satan DOES NOT push himself on anyone.

This information to inform outsiders, atheists, and other skeptics to the truth about Satanism. Remember, treat the knowledge you are given here with serious respect and you will be fine.

They found out the hard way that Satanic rituals are not something to take lightly or to toy around with.

In finishing, Satanists respect free thought and staunchly support the separation of church and state.


Books to read concerning government awareness and involvement with the "paranormal":

* Psychic Warfare by David Moorehouse

* The Seventh Sense by Lyn Buchanan

The above two books, available in paperback, reveal the U.S. Army's use of psychics and remote viewing for spying.

"The Seventh Sense" has a reference to "Hell."

This experience has nothing to do with Satanism, regardless of what you may have been taught to believe.

* Secret, Don't Tell; The Encyclopedia of Hypnotism, by Carla Emery

* The Day After Roswell by Colonel Philip J. Corso

* CIA Stargate Program

The High Priestess

1/17/2007 07:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also check out:

(The anti Iraq War - anti war crime international Brussels Tribunal)

1/17/2007 07:33:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Have a laugh and hit the scroll button, catching your correct observation however, Schrub.

They always try to make you pay, root through ten tons of garbage for one unspoiled banana.

Anyway, my LOL moment is because I know how clearly history speaks to some of the issues that the 'aliens' bring up. There is no need for 'aliens' to tell us this stuff.

A three-book primer might be:

Elaine Pagels, Beyond Belief

Morris Bermans, The Re-enchantment of the World and Coming to our Senses.

Shit, can’t find or remember the proper spelling for the authors name on the last book, but the book is titled The Lost Jesus by Timothy Fenike (sp) and second author.

As an aside, that, ok, - something that I’m not totally comfortable sharing. In real life I have a bit of a loose wire in my inhibition circuits and have been asked, (seriously I think), so, ah, what planet are you from? Maybe it helps to see things differently if you come from another planet, but really,----it’s not necessary.

1/17/2007 08:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1/17/2007 08:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are just a problem of mind over matter.

I do not mind and you do not matter.

Go jerk off to some lesbian porno!!!!

de meisjes

1/17/2007 08:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Feed us your Sounder energy get angry or sexual with us bad girls!!!!

1/17/2007 08:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...Charlie even reportedly served as a 'religious consultant' for Universal Studios on a movie about Christ, and also auditioned to be one of "The Monkeys. [sic]"

Barbar Mikkelson says that Manson was in prison at the time of the auditions for the Monkees.

" In fact, the control that he had over his disciplines [sic] was the primary basis for [railroading] Manson's murder convictions."

Transcription glitches by Anonymous 7:15, or did McGowan never have an editor?

1/17/2007 09:00:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

No, but thanks anyway, I've already got that angle covered.

1/17/2007 09:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We know you are an asshole everytime you comment like a 19 year old who never got laid.

“Palas aron ozinomas

Geheamel cla orlay

Baske bano tudan donas

Berec he pantaras tay.”

Basically that is the problem with you stupid fool who never is thankful for anything.

You are a suckup too.

We come and go in peace now.

If anyone gets in our way and does not let us pass we will destroy him.

We are just tired of all the lies and our side should get a chance to talk without you always with a negative and stupid reply to one of your jerkoff buddies you little disrespectful
CLOSE minded TWIT.

Are you really really really as stupid as the disrespectful brat.


We have to fight you prick.We want your blood.

I would shove my tampon today in your mouth, ever taste blood from a women?

Heel lekker.Heerlijk

Ever pleasure a women to a full body orgasm or is 123 done?

Sounder = 19 year old virgin male!!

Sexual experience = none for ole sounder boy.
Ok,we are not done with you and the disrepectful ones we have a list.

We expect more so we will watch you and do what we do to jerkoff losers who fuck with us.

We ask the Demons to help punish you as we are way too busy for whiners.


1/17/2007 09:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People do things to and against other people in life, because they know they can get away with it. Much of this is due to humanity as a whole residing on a very low level of spirituality, due to knowledge being forcibly removed and destroyed by the Christian Churches. There is rarely any serious justice and most people are indoctrinated to endure all kinds of injustices and abuse. If everyone were spiritually empowered, there would be a lot more thoughtfulness and consideration for and how we interact with others. Society and the human race as a whole would evolve to a higher level.

There are natural laws. One of them is a species or individual for that matter, who is unable to fight back and defend him/herself against others who seriously intend harm will cease to exist. Many species of plants and animals become extinct because they are unable to defend themselves. Our bodies are fighting continuously against invaders in the form of bacteria, viruses, and germs. If our cells stopped fighting and killing harmful invaders, we would quickly become sick and die. This is a fact of life and natural law.

Ethics and a certain code of conduct is necessary for civilization to continue and self-control is important. Sometimes someone is having a bad day or things are said or done many times, unintentionally. However, if someone is seriously out to harm you or deprive you of justice, you have an obligation to fight back. Satanists are not victims.

The working of Black Magick requires much strength of mind and skill. Wiccans and others of the RHP lack this skill and therefore are at a major disadvantage.

The stronger we become in mind, the more powerful we are at all times. Regular power meditation, chakra work, and visualization are essential. One does not need to resort to ritual for retaliation. When we have a strong, focused mind, others will feel the effects when we think intensely of them or when we direct our energies. This is important to remember where family and loved ones are concerned. We all offend each other every now and then, but when we have a powerful mind and aura, we must remember this and be in control. Our anger can cause others to have accidents and misfortune.

As for others who are purposely offensive, just focusing on them letting your anger loose, with a strong, well-trained mind, will usually do the job. I have had things happen on my own, without having to do any rituals.

The High Priestess

1/17/2007 09:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Destruction Ritual begins with the Standard Ritual.

After invoking the Four Crowned Princes of Hell,and opening the gates.You should read a prayer that you have written by yourself in your own words asking for the destruction of your enemy. Work on only one enemy at a time, unless you have a specific agreement with a Demon/ess in exchange for services you both agree upon. Attempting to punish more than one enemy at a time will only weaken your energies, as they will be dispersed. Energy should be directed like a laser to do its job.

Included in the prayer should be the name of the offending one, the severity of the punishment you wish to see inflicted, and how they offended you and your feelings about being victimized. It also helps to have either a small personal possession of the offender's or a photo of them, but is not necessary.

Either read the prayer aloud or silently to yourself, then push the tip of your athame through the paper and light it with the flame of one of your candles and place it in the burning bowl.

Now this next step is extremely important. The following is a good cathartic that can be a lifesaver to one's mental health and psychological well-being. This is the meditation step and is highly recommended in cases where there is an extreme amount of pent up anger and hatred: Here is where you visualize the person as clearly as you can and just let loose until total exhaustion. This ritual is best done while the offender is sleeping.

Visualize the offender clearly and inflict all of the mutilation, injury, and pain you can imagine upon them. Beat them, stab them, torture them, and torment them. You can repeatedly recite their name over and over again in your mind. Release all of your hatred and anger in any way you wish. Just do it in your mind. Some people hate someone so hard they cry- this is fine, this is a cathartic and a very intensely emotional release. You must continue on and on until you are literally exhausted.

The most important thing here is to stay focused. You should also feel very justified. Any lapse in concentration or feelings that creep in where you feel you are not 100% in the right and completely may not only destroy a destruction ritual, but can be dangerous.

Now, close the ritual by giving thanks to Satan and any Demons you may have called forth that the offender will be rightfully punished. Ring the Bell, turning clockwise and say HAIL SATAN!! Either silently to yourself or aloud.

Take all of the time you need with this and then some. You have just dealt with some very negative and destructive energy. You should clean your aura and chakras. This is done by continuously placing a white light or cleansing fire around your aura to clean and burn off negative energy residue. Then proceed to place the light or fire around each of your chakras one by one. Then proceed to spin your chakras- say to yourself "speed of light" for each one. See it spinning until it turns a brilliant white like the Sun. Stand up and visualize a flat disk like table surface above your head, shining a brilliant white. The surface will descend upon your head and all the way down through your body and past the bottoms of your feet, pushing and expelling any negative residue from your being. Repeat this exercise at least two times.

You should also keep cleaning your aura for several days following the working.

It is important that you put the experience behind you and do not dwell on the offender or concern yourself with hopeful anticipation over their punishment. Let the working do its job. Banish the offender and the incident from your thoughts. This working can take up to a month or more.

1/17/2007 09:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

heeeey, the satanists are back...

are you conducting another spell-comment board-ritual...oh no wait, that was just a copout, an attempt at face-saving after jules's "ole lady" nailed you:

"Satanism, well I spose it means you want a religion, but haven't got the balls to have any faith."

You got a good lady there, jules, hold on to that one...


"so Bush is "a very ready tool" who currently enjoys the unprecedented and seemingly unaccountable permission to do the unthinkable. And because he can, something big is coming down." -jeff

my question, speculative as it might be, is why now? why not, say, when Bush I invaded iraq. does it have something to with the dominionist influence of the past decade, or maybe global warming and/or peak oil is far worse than they've let on, or is china that big of a "new" threat, or...what?

I might just be missing the big picture, but I can't for life of me figure out why the game should be coming to head at this moment and not another...

your friendly neighborhood disinfo agent

1/17/2007 09:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

blogger's messing with me, the first "/" is supposed to be "they're", and the second is my name...

your friendly neighborhood disinfo agent

1/17/2007 09:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Everthing you have in America is going to burn, SOON!!!

Kee being a fuckup, i mean why are you here all occult is of the Devil.

You are on our world now.

Like you matter!!! jesus lovers, christian losers fuck you all little faggot disinfo, oh he says you girls can not spell good.

Tell him to suck my bloody pussy

I am bleeding all day.

Go suck bloody pussy.

Hail Satan who we love with all of our mind, body, and soul.
We do not need jesus to save us!!!!
Nihilistic Savages

1/17/2007 09:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



Damned Xians!

Xianity is a sick, twisted, perverted, odious religion that keeps people from true spirituality and humanity's real God, Satan. That's enough right there, but the problem is much, much more than that. You are walking down the street, minding your own business, some pasty looking creature, that has a mask like artificial smile affixed to his/her face, so plastic, robotic and alien like, accosts you with this Jesus garbage. The smiling mask immediately drops, turning to hatred and rage when you state that you are happy in your choice with Satan and you would rather be dead than switch.

You are in the privacy of your own home. Most neighbors, friends, and relatives are considerate enough to call before coming over. You could be in the shower, eating your dinner, watching something of interest on TV, having sex, whatever. You work, pay your rent/house costs and/or taxes, etc. This is YOUR home. You are minding your own business, not bothering a soul; maybe you are even feeling very happy. All of a sudden, regardless of all the blatantly visible "No Soliciting" signs, the "Do not Disturb" signs, or anything else posted to deter unwanted visitors, there is an urgent knock at the door, or the doorbell is ringing like there is a serious emergency, interrupting you, disturbing you without any respect for your privacy or any consideration as to what else you may be tending to or engaged in, in your own place of residence, whatsoever. Door to door, peddling the Nazarene.

You are sleeping, resting, AGAIN, minding your own business. Maybe you are even expecting an important phone call. The phone is ringing and ringing. It's not a friend, relative or neighbor, it's one of those foul xians, telemarketing the nazarene. They will relentlessly keep calling and calling until they get a hold of you. You tell them NO. A couple of months later or even less, they are back like fleas on a dog, only they are much worse than any animal parasite.

You open your mailbox, more of their garbage. Jesus coupons for redemption, always begging for donations to further the relentless nuisance and add to the multi- trillion-dollar industry of wealth they already possess and use to work towards depriving you of your freedom and constitutional rights.
You snap on your radio or television, here we go again, some pedophile capable of literally ANYTHING when perpetrating crimes against humanity, AGAIN is soliciting for more donations as their greed knows no bounds.

You want to read your newspaper, you find pages and pages of full page ads, promoting and marketing the nazarene and the opulent, financially exorbitant institutions where they relieve congregations of their money and their souls.

The absolute WORST of this is what they do to our children. They stalk them and prey upon them, corrupting their innocence and instilling hang-ups and psychological problems where there were none before. They use all kinds of scare tactics to frighten them with their lies. They work to turn them against their non-xian parents and destroy their lives, coercing them towards living for their death and throwing their lives away.

The schools are full of them. Freedom fighters and the government are constantly battling the xian church that is forever a continuous threat to the lives and liberties of others.

Once children are ensnared, they are abused, raped, molested and psychologically destroyed, and in some cases, even mutilated and murdered. In the least, they will never live up to or acknowledge their full potential.

Xians are forever trying to wrest control of the legal system, perverting it, like they do everything else, using it as another instrument to deny ALL of us our freedom, to enslave everyone, destroy lives and ruin what others have sacrificed everything for.

When they seize control, through whatever means, legal, illegal; however, makes no difference to them, they work diligently to maim, torture, murder and destroy anyone who is even suspected of disagreeing with their sick doctrines. Their reign was during the "Dark Ages" To find out if something is good or evil, all one has to do is give it power. Here, the xian religion speaks for itself!

They continuously PUSH themselves where they are not wanted. They are compulsive and obsessive. They are not a joke and will not just go away or mind their own business. They would gladly resume their murderous ways if only given the opportunity.
Anything that has helped humanity- medicine, communication, literacy, modern conveniences, sciences that help us understand the world around us, anything that gives life more meaning or makes it pleasurable, they have worked overtime to slander and destroy. Yet, they make full use of everything they have contributed NOTHING to, working every step of they way to destroy. They make use of modern conveniences to spread their malignant virus around the world.
There IS NO room for tolerance here. This is total fucking WAR! If each one of us does our part, we can bring this evil institution down. IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE. They have used the terrorist attacks to their advantage, like all kinds of other ugly things. We need to start fighting back, LEGALLY. Don't let rage get you at a bad moment, use it constructively. You can't get away from them in prison. People rationalize, make excuses, focus on the small percentage of xians that are polite and mind their own business. This is what keeps them going. There are many who lack the education concerning world history, the INQUISITION, and the church's control of life and government in the dark/middle ages. These people know next to nothing of the truth. They believe what they are told and are too unmotivated or lazy to research for themselves. Knowledge is everything; this is why xians prey on the ignorant and illiterate.

The age of aquarius is the age of fire

THE WAR IS ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We Satanists are a small group as far as numbers go, but we are growing more and more every day when compared to the mainstream religions. Unfortunately, there are people in our lives who are thoroughly indoctrinated with xian and other enemy teachings. Holidays, family reunions and other get-togethers can be trying times for many of us.

Xians feel strong in a group of xians to back them up, but when they experience a confrontation alone, few are brave.

We see you all.


1/17/2007 10:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

heh, it looks like this board is being spammed by a site called "the joy of satan ministries." After a brief look around, it seems all the cut and paste comes directly from the site:




It seems like a bunch of 16 year olds who want to be really, really EVIL. They also seem like evangelical satanists...as dumb as that sounds...

man, there are some really pathetic people out there, aren't there?

your friendly neighborhood disinfo agent

your friendly neighborhood disinfo agent

1/17/2007 10:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The time has come for us to make infernal dreams reality
And turn the world into a funeral pyre
The gates of Hell are open
Filling hearts and minds with hope
The time has come to cleanse the world with fire

Television angels falling,
There's a revelation calling
This world will never be the same
No more false prophets preaching
An end to all the lies they're teaching
Everything is going up in flames

Synagogues and churches burning
Can't you see the tide is turning?
How many fires will it take?
Before you realize that god is dead
Until you open up your eyes and see your god is dead

God is dead, *Hail Satan* Satan lives!
God is dead, *Hail Satan* Satan lives!

This is the new Way...Hail Hellfire!
This is the new Age...Hail Satan!
This is the age of lust and dark desire
It's the age of anger, it's the Age of Fire!!

Burn, baby, burn! Burn! Burn, baby, burn!

And the pulpit of lies is crumbling now
As the puppets of Christ come tumbling down, down, down, down, down, down, down..

Let the fire in our hearts become a fire in our minds
And let our minds light fires among all mankind

Burn, baby, burn! Burn! Burn, baby, burn!
Burn, baby, burn! Burn! Burn, baby, burn!
Burn in Hell!
Burn in Hell!

Let the fire in our hearts become a fire in our minds
And let our minds light fires among all mankind

Burn, baby, burn! Burn! Burn, baby, burn!
Burn, baby, burn! Burn! Burn, baby, burn!

Synagogues and churches is burning
Can't you see the tide is turning?
How many fires will it take?
Before you realize that god is dead
Until you open up your eyes and see your god is dead

God is dead, *Hail Satan* Satan lives!
God is dead, *Hail Satan* Satan lives!

This is the new Way...Hail Hellfire!
This is the new Age...Hail Satan!
This is the age of lust and dark desire
It's the age of anger, it's the Age of Fire!!

Burn, baby, burn! Burn! Burn, baby, burn!
Burn, baby, burn! Burn! Burn, baby, burn!

Burn, baby, burn! Burn! Burn, baby, burn!
Burn, baby, burn! Burn! Burn, baby, burn!

Burn, baby, burn! Burn! Burn, baby, burn!
Burn, baby, burn! Burn! Burn, baby, burn!

Burn, baby, burn! Burn! Burn, baby, burn!
Burn, baby, burn! Burn! Burn, baby, burn!

Burn in Hell!
Burn in Hell!

God is dead,
*Hail Satan*
Satan lives!

!!!Jewhoovah is a fucking pathetic masochistic god of the slaves!!!!

1/17/2007 10:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we want more free advertisements disrespectful brat under attack.

1/17/2007 10:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow, they're also anti-semites...



"The Jews have had a vast pool of psychic energy from which to draw from. The Jews appointed themselves as "The Chosen of God," the star character of Christianity, the Nazarene is a Jew (and a powerful thoughtform), the Virgin Mary and her husband Joseph are Jews, the 12 apostles of the Nazarene (13 makes a coven- again stolen from the Ancient Pagan religions)- all Jews. In addition, all of the characters of the Old and New Testament were stolen from Gentile characters and replaced as the "Chosen" Jews.

So the average Christian Gentile, ignorant to the clandestine workings of the Jews and the occult, pours more and more psychic energy through devotion and prayer into this Jewish energy vortex and people wonder how this minority has most of the world's wealth and power. The Gentiles, namely the Christians have been under a very powerful spell for centuries."



That should be enough, i don't mean to pollute the blog but cowardly bullshit like that needs to be called...

(jeff, feel free to delete the above quotes if you don't want them here)

your friendly neighborhood disinfo agent

1/17/2007 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The time has come for us to make infernal dreams reality
And turn the world into a funeral pyre
The gates of Hell are open
Filling hearts and minds with hope
The time has come to cleanse the world with fire.


Why do you think we post here?

SATAN IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


1/17/2007 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DISrespectful brat you are our HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like it is so hard to google did you learn how to google only today.

We contributed more than most of you ever will or even can period.


1/17/2007 10:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We answer to no one only to
Satan our Father!!!!

Try and put a lid on Prometheus Rising.

Dark Blessings,
de meisjes van de aard

1/17/2007 10:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No individual in history has been provided with more excuses. Twisting, warping, distorting and outright lying of what this entity taught and did is commonplace among those who are deluded, sympathetic and/or just plain stupid.

Many argue that this entity never existed and/or is unimportant. People who maintain these opinions are as deluded and foolish as those who believe the nazarene was a righteous individual.

Whether or not this entity physically existed is irrelevent. The effects this creature had upon humanity has permeated every aspect of the society in which most of us live. There are millions and millions who worship this creature and promote him at every level relentlessly. The impact this entity has had upon humanity is horrendous. Nearly every war there has been has been fought for RHP religious purposes. Millions and millions have severe psychological disorders and hangups which prevent them from living a healthy normal life.

The sorry list of crimes against humanity perpetrated because of this individual goes on and on.

It does not matter whether the entity is a myth or physically and historically existed. The entity is a reality through all of the major injustices and workings of which have held us ALL back for centuries and must be destroyed.

Those who take a stand for personal liberty and freedom are incessantly battling christians in the courts as they relentlessly and obsessively work to deprive every last man, woman and child of their freedom and their lives.


1/17/2007 10:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are to about to destroy Christianity off the face of the earth with the other two false religions.

Sabrina I got to go now,
Later Lover

1/17/2007 10:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Christian Censorship and Control
Its History and Influence Today

Two years ago, I was shopping in a mall in Minneapolis. Minneapolis is a large modern metropolitan area, not the bible belt. I walked into a mall shop that sold Gothic/Metal items to look around. The sales clerk greeted me and asked if there was anything I was looking for. I was interested in a Dimmu Borger t-shirt I saw in a magazine and asked it they carried it. They had a copy of the magazine and I showed her the shirt. She informed me that they were not allowed to sell anything with a pentagram 2 points up or Baphomet because the mall was under the control of [special interest groups] who oversaw all of the merchandise that was being sold and made sure everything was “wholesome” for families. Any shop in violation would lose its license and be banned from the mall.
The availability of black candles is also becoming scarce I began to notice as well. 4 years ago, I was able to purchase several black candles from a Target store and also the local Dollar Store carried them. Not any more.

Now Target stores everywhere carry a large selection of xtian gospel music and also various xtian items. In speaking of “wholesome,” I wouldn’t call an organization that habitually abuses and molests children as “wholesome.” Yet, unfortunately, this is the norm.

The xtian churches have incredible wealth and control. Even though there are many different sects, they are united in one common goal and that goal is to deprive you of your freedom. They preach poverty and relentless giving, but they, themselves do not practice this. You may not realize it, but the xtian churches have control over what you see, hear, read and even what you are able to purchase. This control has gone on for centuries.

Church censorship dates back to the beginning of xianity.

Acts 19: 18-20
18 And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds.
19 Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.
20 So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.

This was long before the widespread recognition of xianity. After 313 CE when the Roman Emperor Constantine decreed toleration for xianity, organized persecution of free thought began. In 325, the council of Nicaea condemned a book by Arius that denied the divinity of the nazarene. Eight years later, Constantine ordered the burning of all books written by Arius under penalty of death for non-compliance.

In 391 the Emperor Theodosius I had all of the great classical libraries of Alexandria destroyed and burned. This pattern continued on for centuries until 1233 when Pope Gregory IX founded the Inquisition which resulted in the burning of authors along with their books. Heinous torture and the stake were considered fitting ends for "heretics" such as Savonarola, whose chief crime was to expose the political scandals of the papal court.

The invention of the printing press in the fifteenth century immediately fell under the total control of the xtian church. In 1487 a papal bull (a church order coming from the pope) ordered that all manuscripts be subjected to prior examination by church authority which would officially approve or deny their publication. The secular governments supported this censorship by imposing penalties under civil law.

The coming of the Reformation divided the church and undermined their absolute control. A book that was banned in one place was likely to be published in another area and most often, all the churches could do was to get it banned locally after publication. Under the reign of Pope Paul IV, in 1557, the first listing of forbidden books (Index Librorum Prohibitorum) was issued. This list comprised all of the books that Roman Catholics were forbidden to read because of their immorality or their contradiction of church doctrines. Subsequently, for the next 400 years, numerous editions of the Index of forbidden books were issued. The last was in 1948 which comprised more than 4,000 forbidden titles, including all of the writings of Emile Zola, Andre Gide, Anatole France, many works of Descartes, the Dumas’ both father and son, Voltaire, Balzac, “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” by Gibbons, “Social contract” by Rousseau, “Critique of Pure Reason” by Kant “Madame Bovary” by Flaubert, “Les Miserables” by Hugo and many other world classics.

The Vatican did not cease in its efforts of censorship or discontinue the Index of Forbidden Books until 1966. The volume of published materials eventually made it impossible for complete inspection of written materials. The Vatican's weekly “L’Osservatore della Domenica" issue of May 1966 stated the Curia was ceasing publication of the index because the sheer volume of published materials in today’s world made the task of censorship, reviewing and compiling a list of forbidden books impossible. The responsibility for censorship passed from the Vatican to the several national conferences of bishops.

The Protestants were just as bad as the Catholics. The first American Press was established in the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1639. Nearly all of the output was of a religious nature. Nearly all of the publications were strictly Calvinistic, mostly sermons and theological writings, even poetry and non-fiction conformed to religious orthodoxy. The book “The Meritorious Price of Our Redemption” by William Pynchon somehow slipped through the censors and became the first book to be publicly burned in the United States, year 1650. The author soon fled the country.

In the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, all 13 colonies made blasphemy, profanity and obscenity statutory crimes. In addition, the Puritan environment continued to exercise complete control. To avoid being ostracized or the target of harsh criticism from the public or powerful pressure groups, authors did not dare write anything that might be offensive to the church. All kinds of extralegal pressures can enforce conformity.

Before the Civil War, there were very few prosecutions for obscenity because of the prevalence of Puritan standards and widespread control which indirectly enforced the self censorship of authors. The first known “obscenity case” in the United States centered around the novel “Fanny Hill” which was banned in 1821 in Massachusetts. The U.S. congress passed a law in 1842 forbidding the “importation of all indecent and obscene prints, paintings, lithographs, engravings and transparencies.” In 1865, it passed its first law making the mailing of obscene material a criminal offense.

Anthony Comstock then appeared on the scene and became one of the most infamous names in the history of censorship. Hence the name “Comstockery,” the puritanical tracking down of vice and immorality in printed materials. As head of a YMCA vigilante committee, he composed New York State’s first obscenity law and the YMCA coerced its passage in 1868. In the year 1873, the committee was transformed into the “New York Society for the Suppression of Vice” In that year, this organization aggressively pressured congress into passing an anti-vice law authored by Comstock. The law enforced the ban from mails of any “obscene, lewd, lascivious, or filthy book, pamphlet, picture, paper, letter, writing, print or other publication of indecent character” and any advertising for such materials and established a penalty of a $5,000.00 fine and/or 5 years imprisonment. This “Comstock” law easily passed through congress without debate. “Little Comstock laws” were additionally enacted by a number of state legislatures.

In New York, Comstock’s YMCA organization was given legal power in the form of warrants to search and seize materials suspected of obscenity. Even though this was a private religious group unanswerable to the electorate, it dictated New York arrests and convictions. In its first 73 years, the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice confiscated 397,000 books and secured the arrest of 5,567 defendants. This organization encouraged the formation of the “New England Watch and Ward Society” in Boston. This group effectively intimidated and put private pressure on New England booksellers to refuse to sell any materials condemned by the society.
Titles condemned by the society included “Dark Laughter” by Sherwood Anderson, “The Sun Also Rises” by Ernest Hemmingway, “An American Tragedy” by Theodore Dreiser, “Elmer Gantry” by Sinclair Lewis (condemned as much for its anti-religious theme as for its supposed obscenity), “Manhattan Transfer” by John Dos Passos’ and Whitman’s “Leaves of Grass”. Erich Maria Remarque’s “All Quiet on the Western Front” was also banned in Boston, even though the American edition had been expurgated, missing two “obscene” passages included in the European version.

Although these and other similar Protestant societies played a major role in the ant-obscenity campaigns for several more years, their influences began to weaken in the 1920’s and 1930’s. After WWI, things began to change and America entered into a revolution in standards regarding human sexuality and other matters of morality that continues to this day. Protestant fanatics who continued to carry on these traditions were subject to public ridicule and indifference.

1950’s- enter the Roman Catholic run “National Organization of Decent Literature” or “NODL.” Founded in 1938 by the Catholic Bishops of the United States and subsequently sponsored and run by the Archdiocesan Council of Catholic Women in Chicago, NODL declared its purpose to be “to organize and set in motion the moral forces of the entire country…against the lascivious type of literature which threatens the moral, social and National life of our country.” It sought to rid stores of any literature it deemed objectionable by any means possible. It proceeded to compile weekly of titles of books and magazines it blacklisted (as well as approved publications). These lists were included in the national Catholic weekly “Our Visitor.” Beginning in 1956, the NODL had its own newsletter.
Eventually, it worked out an organized system of boycotts and pressures against non-complying book and magazine sellers and distributors. Intense pressure was brought on in heavily Catholic cities and counties, which resulted in numerous raids and arrests. In the 1950’s NODL became the most formidable anti-obscenity pressure group in the United States. NODL action representatives would make the rounds to local merchants and ask them to clear their shelves of NODL blacklisted materials and return them to the distributor. Those who refused were subjected to more frequent visits and open demonstrations and protests. If the merchant agreed, he was awarded a certificate, renewable monthly. Parish newsletters and/or sermons from the pulpit then urged Catholics to shop only at stores displaying the certificate in their windows. In 1957, the Executive Secretary of NODL, Monsignor Thomas J. Fitzgerald, bragged that the NODL lists were also “implemented by other organizations such as the PTA’s, American Legion Posts, women’s clubs, Junior Chambers of Commerce” and that “some organizations applying NODL procedures have been organized by public officials.” NODL also placed its lists in the hands of wholesalers. The NODL ceased publication of its newsletter in December of 1969 and thereafter disappeared.

Enter “Morality in Media”. Local chapters were established in many American cities. The main agenda of Morality in Media has been to assist in court battles and in legislative enactment of new anti-obscenity laws on the state and municipal levels. In 1973, the Justice Department Law Enforcement Assistant Administration set up a so called “National Legal Data Center” on the law of obscenity on the campus of California Lutheran College in Thousand Oaks, California. The group received an initial grant of $137, 625.00 in federal funds and a prospect of 200,000 more and has received assistance from Morality in Media- all for the purpose or abetting prosecutors and legislators across the country in a crackdown on allegedly obscene literature and films. The 1970’s were dubbed as the era of “The New Censorship” by booksellers. The supreme court turned over the power of censorship to the local government and the sectarian moralists such as in the bible belt were given much more authority.

Organizations have come and gone throughout the years. The names and the faces change, but they are still the same people. They work relentlessly to coerce their beliefs upon others and when that proves ineffective, they do everything they can to see that society legally conforms to their standards. Every xtian organization from the church to the website pressures for donations. They control through money and influence. I am currently writing an article on the extent of their wealth and power. Remember- this affects all of us directly. They have a direct impact and always have on why we are unable to publicly practice our religion without discrimination. The only time this will change is when people get real serious about standing up for their rights and legally fighting back.

1/17/2007 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Satanism = nonconformity


1/17/2007 10:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The alien chunks within Human DNA, Professor Chang further observes, “have its own veins, arteries, and its own immune system that vigorously resists all our anti-cancer drugs.”

What? Come on? DNA with its own veins, arteries and immune system? I thought DNA was the building blocks of those things, not the other way around.

Rigor, folks....let's not forget rigor."

Here's some rigor for you Shrub...
...the alien origins of our junk DNA was also mentioned in the 90's. I believe it was on the X-Files. 6th season, 1st episode I believe. And you know as well as I do that the X-Files was just thinly disguised truth, don't ya?

So don't knock it Shrub. I've always felt that old tv shows were an unexplored goldmine filled to bursting with hitherto undiscovered bits of wisdom.

Just wait till those Canadians start winding their way through old episodes of Gilligan's Island & Hogan's Heroes.

The implications just leave me breathless.

By the way Shrub, here's my 2 new favorite words:

apophenia & pareidolia.

Apophenia is defined as "the spontaneous perception of connections and meaningfulness of unrelated phenomena.


Pareidolia "describes a psychological phenomenon involving a vague and random stimulus (often an image or sound) being mistakenly perceived as recognizable. Common examples include images of animals or faces in clouds, seeing the man in the moon, and hearing hidden messages on records played in reverse. The word comes from the Greek para- – amiss, faulty, wrong – and eidolon – image, the diminutive of eidos – appearance, form. Pareidolia is a type of apophenia."

Gee Shrub, does this sound like anyone you know?

1/17/2007 11:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Witch Hunt"

The night is black
Without a moon
The air is thick and still
The vigilantes gather on
The lonely torch lit hill

Features distorted in the flickering light
The faces are twisted and grotesque
Silent and stern in the sweltering night
The mob moves like demons possessed
Quiet in conscience, calm in their right
Confident their ways are best

The righteous rise
With burning eyes
Of hatred and ill-will
Madmen fed on fear and lies
To beat and burn and kill

They say there are strangers who threaten us
Are immigrants and infidels
They say there is strangeness too dangerous
In our theaters and bookstore shelves
That those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves

Quick to judge
Quick to anger
Slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice
And fear walk hand in hand...



Like everything else, clairaudience takes time, meditations to open up the psychic ears and major chakras to be able to access this dimension of astral sound.

When one advances, celestial music can be heard. This is most beautiful. Father Satan visited musician Giuseppe Tartini in a dream. He heard Father play the most beautiful violin music, “indescribably beautiful.” He awoke and wrote down what he could recall, but he could never duplicate the beauty of the music. He named the piece “The Devil’s Trill.”

All frequencies of energy have their own sounds. The entire universe runs on vibration. One of the most interesting experiences in clairaudience is hearing the sounds of the cosmos.

The more psychically open one becomes, the more likely he/she is to encounter different sounds. Anything from bells to ringing, buzzing (this is the bioelectricity; in Ancient Egypt, the bee was a sacred insect. Tutankhamen’s rear headdress (coffin) has a bee stinger attached in gold), flute sounds, roar of the ocean and others. Certain sounds can be annoying, but these symptoms will fade away as one’s system gets used to the heightened level of the life force.


1/17/2007 11:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


So deep, deep as the sky is high
In my sleep your song has spun my dreams
Darker than the night
Wider than the sea

Oh, Sabrina, wild and free
Oh, Sabrina, sing for me

Each breath of wind shall shape your form
Who would guess your life would rise and fall
How I fear your power
How I miss you now


1/17/2007 11:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"In fact, the control that he had over his disciplines [sic] was the primary basis for [railroading] Manson's murder convictions."

Transcription glitches by Anonymous 7:15...?

Yes. :-) That one is. It said "disciples." Thanks.

and furthermore:

"Barbara Mikkelson says that Manson was in prison at the time of the auditions for the Monkees."

Thanks for that link.

First, so I assume you accept every other more major point showing that Manson was an MKULTRA police protected project connected with kiddie porn and the largest LSD distribution node in the world with British and American embassy connections.

And Manson's background at being sent to Boy's Town, made famous as the #1 recruitment ground for a national pedophile, drug muling, sexual blackmail, and child mind control proving ground by ex Nebraskan Senator John DeCamp's exposure.

Hey, that sounds like Manson was the same project connections being done in the 1980s way back in the 1960s. Small world.

It's no coincidence that Manson's story sounds like a sick pattern and even deja vu to the Franklin Cover-Up. Yet, I would caution anyone run crying to scopes.com to make them feel better.

Pause and consider: since if "Project Manson" had such strange high level protection and connection throughout his 'outside' life, he could have been released in some cases even when he begged to stay in jail, in one noted instance. This Monkees thing might have been one of those issues, or not--I don't care about this little point, it seems rather inconsequential to far more important high level connections he had. And McGowan doesn't indicate where he got the story from to be fair to him: he just reports he is repeating it as 'reportedly' said about him, in a section about all his other more well known Hollywood elite connections that Manson had.

Scopes.com has the tendency to make believe that it is impossible in the USA to spring a crazy person from jail to do his master's bidding of chaos, whenever the right phone call is received.

Though I would say once more: Manson's not really the issue the 'serial killer' story is not really the issue: it's all the "Franklin Cover-up" durable projects of drug consolidation, kiddie porn consolidation, sexual blackmail and pedophilia and mind control projects for 30 years that any number of lost souls are brought into service and entrap others, and sometimes sent out to kill them or at least surreally in Manson's case to stand trial for mass murders he had nothing to do with, not even being at the scene of the crime. Tell that to your close minded moral panic media savvy reader, and they will think you are insane, though its true he had nothing to do with that massive media frame placed upon him. It's the same with dozens of other 'serial killers.'

And another thing that has always bugged me about snooty sites of "neutral verification" like Snopes.com. First, they self-proclaim this fount of 'verified, neutral, factual' information. Just like Wikipedia sells itself as. (Not! see




Snopes.com is written by someone with limited information and I would hardly trust anyone simply relaying what are its blithe pronouncements on something so sensitive as what appears to be a governmental project called "Operation Charlie Manson" who was just one of perhaps dozens of steered killers and whatnot all in the same sick pattern more directly discussed in The Franklin Cover-Up.

And just who are "Barbara and David P. Mikkelson" at that snopes.com link?

"Breakthechain.com" describes them as:

Barbara and David P. Mikkelson of the San Fernando Valley Folklore Society maintain an exhaustive database of research on urban legends of all types, not just the ones on the 'net. Their articles are well-researched, intelligent, and full of common sense.

Just to show you how unverified it can be Wikipedia says about them that they are..

a couple from California who met on the newsgroup alt.folklore.urban and married. The couple also founded the San Fernando Valley Folklore Society, who were credited as the owners of the site until 2005.

No citations there either.

And even if something is made up as a joke by them it can backfire:

The Mikkelsons have stressed the reference portion of the name Urban Legends Reference Pages, indicating that their intention is not merely to dismiss or confirm misconceptions and rumors but to provide evidence for such debunkings and confirmations as well.[1] In an attempt to demonstrate the perils of over-reliance on authority, the Mikkelsons created a series of made-up urban folklore tales which they termed The Repository of Lost Legends.[2] (The name was chosen for its acronym, T.R.O.L.L.) One fictional legend averred that the children's nursery rhyme "Sing a Song of Sixpence" was really a coded reference used by pirates to recruit members. (This parodied a real false legend surrounding "Ring Around the Rosie"'s link to the bubonic plague.) Although the creators were sure that no one could believe a tale so ridiculous – and had added a link[3] at the bottom of the page to another page explaining the hoax, and a message with the ratings saying "Note: Any relationship between these ratings and reality is purely coincidental." – eventually the legend was featured as true on an urban legends board-game and TV show.[4] Whether this meant their plan backfired or succeeded is in the eye of the beholder.

...I find it hard to believe that all things on that huge website can be written by these two which brings up an interesting question of why it says that after 2005 it's no longer their baby. Who pays them or why ever start such a project with claims to authority on 'breaking the chain' on so many things. Though to be fair to them, sometimes they are claimed to have 'unverifiable' or 'unverified' though I have never seen one of those pages personally...

If the internet was invented in the mid 1400s, you can be sure that the Vatican would have a snopes.com website up within days, attempting to 'break the chain' about all sorts of 'misinformation' getting around about what is or isn't in the Bible (which was illegal for the laity to see until it was smuggled out and printed increasingly after the 1450s.)

The base issue is power and who constructs knowledge here. And I would always take snopes.com with a 1 meter cube of salt. It's not the information it has, it's what it may be missing.

Another questionable website with the same theme of 'one stop shop, I want to stop thinking at the soonest possible point' is Breakthechain.com itself.

Who bothered to spend money funding a snazzy sort of empty project claiming the kindhearted desire to "stop junk email and misinformation"?

What's so strange about breakthechain.com is the timing of their endeavor.

No, it wasn't right after the Gutenberg press was invented.

However, some certainly started their 'helpful service to stop web misinformation' at a strange time: two days after 9-11-01 according to 'whois' database registry of names:

Record created on: 2001-09-13 14:32:00.0


Thus, two days after 9-11, a pressing issue for government perpetrators is innately to start providing sites to misdirect and diffuse people putting it all together, so 'public thinking education help' for 'breaking the chain' of all that 'misinformation' about 9-11 being a standdown is quickly supplied.

And if that's not enough to make you think twice about many of these 'let me help you with labeling disinfo from truth' websites, I really mistrust breakthechain.com when their 'resources for international truth', link to CNN and MSNBC, the fount of nothing except war propaganda lies for years now...?


So do it.

Instead, just 'break the chain' of your dependency of reaching for cut and pastable 'research' canned responses from internet sites, some of them assuredly seeded as psyop operations with interest in keeping you from putting 2 and 2 together on controversial issues--with their real intent of keeping you in mental chains instead of breaking them.

Particularly because Manson had an almost expected history of "Franklin Cover-up projects of the 1960s" connections (being a governmental puppet project; protected from police custody even when committing crimes; and even being released from jail when he didn't want to which occurs across several 'serial killers' so blamed) that should be taken into account to make you unsure of swallowing snopes.com information about him.

Charlie Manson is a hot property because he most assuredly does link back to top secret behavioral modification projects of the USA.

And I worry that the 'unbiased source' that snopes.com cites mostly is the obviously biased prosecution attorney of Manson Bugliosi--described above so well by McGowan--who didn't really want to get into many issues of all the wider connections of Charlie--and didn't have to! Bugliosi didn't even have suffer making a real case because it seemed prearranged perhaps through threat that the defense attorney would agree not to have any rebuttals to anything Bugliosi claimed about Charlie!

Then the defense attorney is dead on the day of sentencing?? What's up with that? As well as other 'wrap up the Family' murders of people who weren't charged?!

Don't bother running to scopes.com on that: just start thinking. Cui bono?

1/17/2007 11:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We are stardust, we are golden..
we are part of the devils barter,
and we've got to get ourselves
back to the garden..."

1/18/2007 12:50:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Thank-you anon 11:51, several good points and perspective.

And Richard and disinfo man, thank-you also.

Oh yeah, to you 'funny' people, may your 'spells' come back to you, with love.

1/18/2007 04:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for letting us hone our skills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Concerning Spiritual Warfare

[Concerning those who only care about themselves and see Satanism as a religion only for the self and disregard Satan]
"They are of no importance to me." -Satan

I have read articles where the author presented some grandiose ideas about joining Hell's Army after death; being "ferried across the River Styx and joining the forces of Hell on the other side." This is not the way it is. The fight is in the here and now and takes place upon battleground Earth. Satan spoke to me at length on the Eve of Beltane 4/30/05 concerning this. All souls that were residing in Hell in spirit form have all been reincarnated recently and will be joining the ranks of Hell here on Earth. This is total fucking war!

For centuries, xians have been relentlessly attacking us and continue to do it to this day. We are persecuted to where we are unable to openly have our own places of Satanic worship in public. We often have to conceal our beliefs and practices from others in order to keep our jobs, avoid major confrontations with our families and to avoid persecution and harassment. Places where we can purchase black candles and other Satanic items are becoming more and more scarce and access to Satanic books of prayer and inspiration are impossible to obtain in the mainstream stores that are flooded with xian filth. We have been turning the cheek for far too long. It is high time we begin to fight back aggressively and with a vengeance. The burning days are over and we have the psychic power.

Fundamentalist xians continually brag about "binding Satan" "binding and cursing Demons" and so forth. They all talk the talk. It is time we show them what *real* binding and cursing is. The burning days are over with and there are no laws against spiritual cursing and other works of psychic retaliation. What you do using the powers of your mind in the privacy of your ritual chamber in or out of doors is legal and free.

Satan wants the enemy completely drained of their massive vortex of psychic energy and destroyed.

Satan has asked every dedicated Satanist to participate in spiritual warfare. We must work together as a team and like a battering ram, relentlessly attacking the enemy through psychic means. Everyone can do at least one ritual or hook up an energy line and/or direct destructive energy towards the enemy. Many of you who are truly dedicated and able may want to perform a ritual to Satan dedicating your services as a warrior and making a commitment to carry out regular works of psychic destruction against the enemy. Covens can do this as well and the more people involved- the more power.

It is important to work in silence and secrecy here. Steel your heart and steel your mind. As the images of the Egyptian Gods have shown us with their arms crossed over their chests- the heart and human emotions are vulnerable to manipulation. The enemy exploits this. This is why the nazarene is usually shown with his arms open. This is to exploit human emotions. We must never forget the Inquisition and what was done to millions of innocent human beings under xian rule.

No human being is of more importance to Satan than a warrior is. Satan will reward you profusely as he has with me. Now is the time and Satan is asking each and every one of you to join in the fight and bring the enemy down to their knees and completely destroy them through psychic means. Power meditation is a gift from Satan. It has changed many of our lives for the better. It is time each and every one of us gives something back in gratitude. The more you do for Satan, the more Satan will do for you. Each warrior will receive special recognition and outstanding rank in Hell.

As for those who have this complacent "live and let live" attitude and prefer to ignore the ever advancing xian problem that curses and blasphemes our God, works to enact laws that are forever taking away our rights and is incessantly fighting against us- these people don't even deserve to be called Satanists. One only needs to type in "spiritual warfare" and "Satan" together in any search engine to pull up thousands of militant xian websites that prove how they are relentlessly attacking us. So far, most Satanists have turned the other cheek. This needs to be corrected.

Message from Satan to All Spiritual Warriors

© Copyright 2005, Joy of Satan Ministries;
Library of Congress Number: 12-16457

we are here,
meisjes van de aard

1/18/2007 05:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The "Three-fold Law of Return"
Exposing This Lie and its Origins

The "Three-fold," the "Ten-fold," The One-hundred-fold”; all of these were invented by a few human beings to frighten the masses, in order to maintain spiritual control. With the availability of knowledge in modern times, witchcraft could no longer be suppressed, so the oppressors had to find a way to keep it inline so real power and control can remain in the hands of a few. These few *know* the truth and are adepts in black magick which they use liberally to spiritually enslave the masses. They control the mainstream religions that are nothing but programs to suppress knowledge and control humanity. The article below exposes this lie for what it is:

"The first known reference in print to the three-fold law of return appeared in 1970 in ’Witchcraft Ancient and Modern’ by Raymond Buckland who was initiated into the craft by Gerald Gardner and was instrumental in introducing Gardnerian Witchcraft into the United States."¹

With enough research, it is evident that the "three-fold" emerged with the "Gardnerian Tradition." Then, we have the "seven-fold" and I’m sure everyone has heard of the "ten-fold." My point here is none of this recent man-made nonsense has anything to do with the original religions. Its sole purpose is to keep people from using their inborn power and to promote a passive attitude that is accepting of abuse. This is no different from the Christian Church.

This "three-fold teaching was taken from the eastern concept of "karma" after it merged with Western Christianity. After the eastern teachings of karma picked up the Judeo/Christian overtones of divine punishment, the product evolved into yet another system of control with the same theme of keeping power in the hands of a few who know how to use it to exploit humanity. One thing led to another and Gerald Gardner added more to this and promoted the belief that witches must never use their powers to cause harm. Everybody has to take abuse and keep the passive attitude.

The Wiccan Rede: "An it harm none, do what ye will." According to Gardner, the "creed" is derived from "Good King Pausol" who declared, "Do what you like so long as you harm no one." King Pausol is a fictitious character from the French novel by Pierre Louÿs (1870-1925): Les Adventures du Roi Pausole: Pausole (Souverain Paillard et Débonnaire) (1901 and reprinted in 1925 numerous times since), or the Adventures of King Pausole (The Bawdy and Good Natured Sovereign). This is the basis of "Wicca." Wicca is nothing more than a Christianized version of the old religions. Wiccans have taken selected rites and teachings to suit their whims, from the original religions and have twisted, corrupted and transformed them and are now passing themselves off as the original religion. The hypocrisy can be readily seen in the Gods they acknowledge. Many, if not most of these Gods and Goddesses that they claim to worship, were the ones who brought the teachings of magick to humans, both white and black magick. They are known as "The Fallen Ones."

The original Horned God is Satan. In addition, few Wiccans bother to do any indepth research regarding the Gods and Goddesses they commune with and worship. Most of these deities are of the Pantheon of Hell. Many Wiccans and modern Pagans also unknowingly mix their deities (Angels with Demons) and this can spell disaster. I read a long list of deities these people claim to worship and it is obvious they really know nothing much about them. Most of these writings consist of nothing but double talk, for example: how "Ishtar" should be evoked instead of "Ashtaroth" even though they are the same Goddess. They claim using the name "Ashtaroth" is different, even though they readily admit she is the same Goddess.

According to author Raymond Buckland, Wiccans claim their religious roots to be evident in a Paleolithic cave painting of a man dressed in stag skins presumably performing a dance. "Caverne des Trois Freres at Ariege France" is the site of this cave painting. It is just that- a man dressed up in animal skins and is no proof of anything.

Satanism has often served as the scapegoat for these new age religions and movements, whose adherents view themselves as so good and perfect. Wicca is a Christianized corruption of the old pagan religions. Wicca is the Judeo/Christianized version of witchcraft. One of the major goals of Christianity is to destroy the past and replace it with fictitious versions that conform to the lie of Christianity. Recently, they have been working to turn the religion into a Goddess cult, by gradually getting rid of the Horned God so there will be fewer and fewer ties with the original religions. Wicca is a bogus movement, not based upon the facts, but like Christianity, it is based upon stolen and altered rites and teachings. Like Christianity, it depends upon the ignorance of its followers to thrive.

¹ Witches and Witchcraft by Rosemary Guiley 1989
"Threefold law of return" pages 340-41,
Also: "Wiccan Rede" pages 363-64
"Horned God" 163-64

"Witchcraft Ancient and Modern" by Raymond Buckland

* Zodiac Position: 20-24 degrees of Virgo
* September 13th-17th
* Tarot Card: 10 of Pentacles
* Planet: Venus
* Metal: Copper
* Element: Earth
* Candle color: Red
* Plant: Pennyroyal
* Rank: Marquis
* Marchosias is a Day Demon and rules 30 legions of spirits. She was of the Order of Dominations

She assists in any fight, argument or confrontation, verbal or physical and answers questions.

Marchosias appeared as a teenage girl, or she looked as young. She is very talkative and friendly. She has straight long blonde hair parted down the middle, large black wings. She is a warrior.

Like us.

meisjes van de aard

1/18/2007 05:49:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

I apologize to all if I have done anything to attract this type of person.

Love is the only protection from these types of people. That is why,...they hate it so. Back to you, sweethearts.

I may become scarce for a bit I guess, oh well, at least some will be happy.

1/18/2007 06:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thomas Taylor epitomizes the doctrines of the Greater Mysteries in the following statement: "The Greater (Mysteries) obscurely intimated, by mystic and splendid visions, the felicity of the soul both here and hereafter when purified from the defilement of a material nature, and constantly elevated to the realities of intellectual (spiritual) vision."

Just as the Lesser Mysteries discussed the prenatal epoch of man when the consciousness in its nine days (embryologically, months) was descending into the realm of illusion and assuming the veil of unreality, so the Greater Mysteries discussed the principles of spiritual regeneration and revealed to initiates not only the simplest but also the most direct and complete method of liberating their higher natures from the bondage of material ignorance. Like Prometheus chained to the top of Mount Caucasus, man's higher nature is chained to his inadequate personality. The nine days of initiation were also symbolic of the nine spheres through which the human soul descends during the process of assuming a terrestrial form.

The secret exercises for spiritual unfoldment given to disciples of the higher degrees are unknown, but there is every reason to believe that they were similar to

the Brahmanic Mysteries, since it is known that the Eleusinian ceremonies were closed with the Sanskrit words

"Konx Om Pax."


1/18/2007 06:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


The Plan

Satan - Prince of This World (1959)

which exposes the Luciferian conspiracy, satanism, secret societies and the Synagogue of Satan (SOS) as driving forces behind the world revolutionary movements such as communism, nazism, fascism and international capitalism. The famous author of such books as Pawns in the Game and Red Fog over America was working on this book when he died in 1959. After his son edited the document in the mid-60s, the manuscript lay hidden away until he decided to finally publish it. Carr, a former British Naval officer and an MI5 agent describes the worldwide conspiracy of "Jewish" (read: zionist) bankers, who employ communism and other "revolutionary" ideologies as the battering ram against Christian states. His books discuss a Luciferian conspiracy by the "World Revolutionary Movement," but he later attributed the conspiracy more specifically to the "Synagogue of Satan." The term "Synagogue of Satan" was not a reference to Judaism as he himself wrote, "I wish to make it clearly and emphatically known that I do not believe the Synagogue of Satan (S.O.S.) is Jewish, but, as Christ told us for a definite purpose, it is comprised of 'Them who say they are Jews ... and are not ... and do lie'". One of Carr's most lasting contributions to modern-day conspiracy theory was his discussion of an alleged plan for three world wars, supposedly developed by Confederate general and Masonic leader Albert Pike. As Pike suggested, the 1st World war was to be fought so as to enable the Illuminati to overthrow the powers of the Tsars in Russia and turn that country into the stronghold of Atheistic-Communism. The differences stirred up by the agentur of the Illuminati between the British and German Empires were to be used to foment this war. After the war ended, Communism was to be built up and used to destroy other governments and weaken religions. This is exactly what actually happened. Next, World War 2 was to be fomented by using the differences between Fascists and political Zionists. This war was to be fought so that Naziism would be destroyed and the power of political Zionism increased so that the sovereign state of Israel could be established in Palestine. This is also exactly what actually happened. During World war 2 International Communism was to be built up until it equalled in strength that of united Christendom. At this point it was to be contained and kept in check until required for the final social cataclysm. Finally, World War 3 should (will) be fomented by using the differences the agentur of the Illuminati stir up between the political Zionists and the leaders of the Moslem world. The war is to be directed in such a manner that Islam (the Arab World including Mohammedanism) and political Zionism (including the State of Israel) will destroy themselves while at the same time the remaining nations, once more divided against each other on this issue, will be forced to fight themselves into a state of complete exhaustion physically, mentally, spiritually and economically. Can any unbiased and reasoning person deny that the intrigue now going on in the Near, Middle, and Far East is designed to accomplish this devilish purpose? 90 pages. A must read for everyone.

Conspiracy Central | XBNBT File Info

meer informatie van de lekkerdings

1/18/2007 07:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


The Plan

Satan - Prince of This World (1959)

which exposes the Luciferian conspiracy, satanism, secret societies and the Synagogue of Satan (SOS) as driving forces behind the world revolutionary movements such as communism, nazism, fascism and international capitalism. The famous author of such books as Pawns in the Game and Red Fog over America was working on this book when he died in 1959. After his son edited the document in the mid-60s, the manuscript lay hidden away until he decided to finally publish it. Carr, a former British Naval officer and an MI5 agent describes the worldwide conspiracy of "Jewish" (read: zionist) bankers, who employ communism and other "revolutionary" ideologies as the battering ram against Christian states. His books discuss a Luciferian conspiracy by the "World Revolutionary Movement," but he later attributed the conspiracy more specifically to the "Synagogue of Satan." The term "Synagogue of Satan" was not a reference to Judaism as he himself wrote, "I wish to make it clearly and emphatically known that I do not believe the Synagogue of Satan (S.O.S.) is Jewish, but, as Christ told us for a definite purpose, it is comprised of 'Them who say they are Jews ... and are not ... and do lie'". One of Carr's most lasting contributions to modern-day conspiracy theory was his discussion of an alleged plan for three world wars, supposedly developed by Confederate general and Masonic leader Albert Pike. As Pike suggested, the 1st World war was to be fought so as to enable the Illuminati to overthrow the powers of the Tsars in Russia and turn that country into the stronghold of Atheistic-Communism. The differences stirred up by the agentur of the Illuminati between the British and German Empires were to be used to foment this war. After the war ended, Communism was to be built up and used to destroy other governments and weaken religions. This is exactly what actually happened. Next, World War 2 was to be fomented by using the differences between Fascists and political Zionists. This war was to be fought so that Naziism would be destroyed and the power of political Zionism increased so that the sovereign state of Israel could be established in Palestine. This is also exactly what actually happened. During World war 2 International Communism was to be built up until it equalled in strength that of united Christendom. At this point it was to be contained and kept in check until required for the final social cataclysm. Finally, World War 3 should (will) be fomented by using the differences the agentur of the Illuminati stir up between the political Zionists and the leaders of the Moslem world. The war is to be directed in such a manner that Islam (the Arab World including Mohammedanism) and political Zionism (including the State of Israel) will destroy themselves while at the same time the remaining nations, once more divided against each other on this issue, will be forced to fight themselves into a state of complete exhaustion physically, mentally, spiritually and economically. Can any unbiased and reasoning person deny that the intrigue now going on in the Near, Middle, and Far East is designed to accomplish this devilish purpose? 90 pages. A must read for everyone.

Conspiracy Central | XBNBT File Info

meer informatie van de lekkerdings

1/18/2007 07:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Jeff,
great post as usual , love to read you from the boreal forest up north Québec... can you do something please about al this "satanist" spam on your comments ? thx !

1/18/2007 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


just watched Videodrome.

...it was a bit be4 my time (I'm only a pup)

I finally get the quotes.

Totally tripped out...

but scarily relevant

Respect 4 Jeff


BTW: Ur latest post headlining Truthseeker

1/18/2007 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee Shrub, does this sound like anyone you know?

I know nothing!! I know nothing!!

Get it?

I almost didn't catch your post amidst the fracas. Yep, I can see the tide is turning just as IC said it would.

Is it upon this that we build that new world?

Heaven help us (pun intended).

You must admit, the "suck my bloody pussy" comment was rather interesting. Is that part of the potential carbohydrate economy?

1/18/2007 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It is important to work in silence and secrecy here."

Nothing like giving advice & then totally ignoring it in a really long-winded manner, eh?

I'm beginning to think that Christians & Satanists deserve each other in a big effing way.
Maybe they could find an island together somewhere so they can stare meanly at each other in "psychic warfare" without any interruptions whatsoever.

You'd think such powerful children of Satan could clog the tv or radio with their recruiting ads, instead of typing furiously on fringe websites. Oh well, I'm sure that, while typing, they glare at the keyboard with all the evil fury they're little 13 year old hearts can muster.

Who, in their wildest dreams, could have thought pure evil would be sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo goddamn boring?

Oh me oh my, have I brought the wrath of Satan down upon my head?

Now I'm really scared.

1/18/2007 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're right Shrub, the "suck my bloody pussy" comment was just about the high point of the Satanic screed.

All I have to say though is been there, done that.

Red wings red wings
be my friend
up until
the very end.

On my way to looney land so have a nice day Shrub. And remember, play nice with the little evil ones. You know that they bruise easily, don't ya?

Peace pal.

1/18/2007 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That link is for a pdf. file made in 1959

I mean some of you you guys are sooooooooooooo
stupid, except Jeff who we adore.

Now we point out
in the last comments we learned nothing while our pdf. down load is ignored dealing with the topic like a laser beam.


We might just decide to open our minds towards all you enemies.The
xtians are blind and we prove it repeatedly.

We are also very tired of the insolence.And never learning much it appears you are the boring ones.

So we go now to make love and meditate.

de meiden van de aard


1/18/2007 11:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

except Jeff who we adore

I'm certain he feels honored.

1/18/2007 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I couldn't help but notice the irony. I get broiled and roasted by the regulars a while back and get one of my "nonsensical" posts deleted, but the spamming Satanists go essentially unchecked. Hardly a peep from the noble and brave warriors who seek to reshape the world.

Satan and his minions can't hold a candle to me.

Where is everybody? Come on, now, they won't hurt you. They just want you to suck their bloody pussies, is all. They've been bleeding all day, you know, so cut them some slack and start sucking.

Hail Shrubageddon

1/18/2007 11:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O K what would it look like in our creative consciousness, collectively, as part of the creation as Co-Creators with the GODHEAD referred to God the Creator of ALL. Or, whatever we give credit to the source of ALL.
Define ALL: well, ALL includes thoughts, ideas, actions and they come from a Source. AN ULTIMATE SOURCE of Consciousness.
So if all the stuff we think of as Evil through our minds, and all the good stuff, too, then you take the Next step to reaching Full Humanity (which is the GOAL in the game of LIFE) and experience all things as Love, with our Hearts, then we could love these demons and space brothers and sisters and then have a party or… just experience what Truly Living is….Living Forever in God’s Paradise….. Holy Mother Earth.

Just a thought……In the process of Creation and Co-Creation as “in the beginning there was the word”…etc.. These words on this blog are the seeds of creation, you know,-thoughts. So we could create a New Myth on this blog while the rest catch up and then bask in the Truth that goes beyond the Myth. We could send those old Beliefs to out-space like Pluto and then maybe it would get back its status as a Perfect Planet instead of Dwarf.
I am pretty sure you can create something OUT of Existence, so couldn’t we send those Old beliefs somewhere so they don’t just relocate, like Sounder said??
Just a thought…

Question If Satan, now dubbed GOD, is the Father of Jesus then Jesus is the Son of Satan.???
How about GOD the Father had two Sons and loves them Both and they both Love the Father. They both wanted us all to share their special unique relationship with the rest of the world (or worlds.) The only difference is that Jesus gave us the notion of sin to dominate us into being good and believing in God and Satan gave us the notion that it is OK to to do whatever!.. as long as he is the only one who gets credit for the evil shit.

I think they are both distracing us from GOD the Father….the Creator of ALL that is…..
good and evil. Yeah!!!

Once, we figure out that our mind is our Only Enemy and Surrender to the Plan of God Amighty, Paradise is only a step away.

1/18/2007 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Jeff at al,

Thanks for this site, have just been lurking, great fun and info...

But the 'satanists' are very tiresome! Wish there were some kind of filter to keep them on their own turf.

Hey 'satanists': how 'bout just leaving a link and we'll check youze guys out if we want to. Possibile? If not, then crap on I guess. Very anal expulsive of you.

1/18/2007 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


You won’t find this book in the shops...
...but you will find the whole thing
on this website!

1/18/2007 02:06:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Yep, I can see the tide is turning just as IC said it would.

Is it upon this that we build that new world?

Very funny, Shrub, as always. Just to set a few things straight, these minions of whatever fly-encrusted Dark Lords sent them are not exactly what I had in mind (as you know, nudge, nudge). Also, again as you know, I neither danced on your grave nor brought my own tarbrush--look back, you'll see. Sure, I've always wrestled with you and Richard in a manly (not too sweaty way), but I like you guys (which, needless to say, you also know).

I do have another source for you, a builder of new worlds whom I admire muchly, if you're interested. It's Brian O' Leary, whose New Energy Movement I've linked here before, especially the awesome Hidden New Energy Debate essay. Dude has a new book out, and while it's true that he's retired, in his '60s, and living in seclusion somewhere in the Andes, Re-Inheriting the Earth is full of hope as well as the ever-present fear that bathes us all in its deep chill. (That book link is just an excerpt and none too taxing at that.)

In conclusion, my dear Shrubbery, I have not abandoned ye, person of small faith that ye be. Oh, that's right. It's these loonies from the dark side who have all the faith now. See ya.

Richard, dude:

What's shakin'? Speaking of abandoned, why dost thou abandon & ignore my gentle proddings? Did I not welcome your return with prodigiously fatted farm animals? (Sorry for the Bible-speak; I just finished Chris Moore's Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal (strongly recommended) and you know how that stuff sort of sticks to your ribs. Well, "hi, there!" is all I wanted to say, I guess. Peace on you, too.

1/18/2007 02:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey IC,

I do remember that you never abandoned me....and I appreciate it, and respect you for it. You know I like you.....hell, you know I love you...and I've said so on many occasions.

What was Satan's childhood pal's name? McFly?

1/18/2007 02:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

President Manson

How about a squishy compromise between Satan Spam R US and the original point of Jeff's post? Is there a connection?

Jeff, I'm surprised you didn't note that 'serial killer' (MKULTRAite) Henry Lee Lucas and George W. Bush shared the same area of 'operation' back in the 1980s, Matamoros/Brownsville, TX, at the southernmost tip of Texas.

Your quote here is more perspicacious than you perhaps wanted to know comparing the leaving George W. Bush in charge thanks to the Democrats, with leaving Manson out on a useful rampage:

Despite multiple offenses and parole violations, Spahn Ranch wasn't raided before Tate-LaBianca because the police were expressly told they should not arrest Manson or his followers. Despite the grievous injuries they've inflicted upon the nation and the constitution, George Bush and Dick Cheney will not be impeached because Democrats have elected, for some reason, to take impeachment "off the table." Like an unmolested Manson sending his family on "creepy crawly" burglaries of canyon homes Bush will not be stopped by the law, because behind the law are the gods of Helter Skelter who are not yet finished with him.

Read up.

George W. Bush involved in a Texas thrill kill cult? Who as Governor Bush, gave his only pardon from the death sentence a person who killed more than Manson ever would, Henry Lee Lucas? Information originally from McGowan's other book _Understanding the F-Word: American Fascism and the Politics of Illusion:

22.Jan.2005 15:42
Bush & MKULTRA Satanic killer who Bush pardoned while Governor, BOTH in same cult in '80s

Bush covers up likely MKULTRA issues. Plus, Bush himself has been associated with mass murder Satan cult rings at Brownsville, Texas. And this connects him to the very person and the only person he "pardoned" while governor of Texas--Henry Lee Lucas, for ritualized killings and cannibalism. They both were associated with Brownsville, TX, cults.

Bush's Wild Years: in the 1980s, Bush and serial killer Henry Lee Lucas in TX Satan cult, George W. Bush investigated for six months for mass murder of 17 people who were skinned in the cult--until VP Poppy Bush told then to drop the case.

"Bush, telling reporters and critics to 'stick to the issues that matter', Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush declined to answer questions Monday concerning his alleged involvement in a 1984 Brownsville, TX, mass murder, in which 17 people were ritualistically murdered and skinned. 'I will not stoop to discussing that,' said Bush....

Bush, the son of a billioniare, was strangely living in the most impoverished place in America, Brownsville.

Bush was living nearby to and also inside the headquarters of a Satanic Cult of which he was a member.

Bush disappeared for three days during which ALL of the other of his fellow Cult Members were slaughtered. After he reappeared he could not explain where he had been.

***The local prosecutor continued to pursue Bush, sole Cult survivor, on mass murder charges for six months thereafter, heavily pressured by Daddy Bush to stop the investigation.***

That's the gist of it. More analysis at the link, and here's McGowan's and Skolnick's raw articles on the serial killer links to George W. Bush:

Henry - Portrait of an MK-ULTRA Assassin?

David McGowan

June 2000

"Henry is an unusual prisoner. He's been given a high security cell and a few special amenities ..." --
Jim Boutwell, Sheriff of Williamson County, Texas

[And Henry Lee Lucas suspiciously 'died in prison', immediately in the wake of the publication of McGowan's book about his connections to then Governor Bush, who pardoned perhaps the largest serial killer in the world, Lucas.]

On June 30th of 1998, Henry Lee Lucas, arguably the most prolific and certainly one of the most sadistic serial killers in the annals of crime was scheduled for execution by the state of Texas. Given the advocacy of the death penalty by Governor George W. Bush, things clearly weren't looking good for Henry at that time.

Bush had not granted clemency to any condemned man in his tenure as governor. In fact, no governor of any state in the entire history of the country has carried out more judicial executions than has Governor George. At last count, the state of Texas had dispatched 130 inmates on Bush's watch.

So Texas was definitely not the place to be for a man in Henry's position. And considering the nature of Henry's crimes, it seemed a certainty that nothing would stand in the way of Henry's scheduled execution. There weren't likely to be any high-profile supporters, a la Karla Faye Tucker (though even personal appeals to Bush from the likes of Pat Robertson failed to dissuade the governor from proceeding on schedule with Miss Tucker's execution). Not likely because Henry's crimes were of a particularly brutal nature, involving rape, torture, mutilation, dismemberment, necrophilia, cannibalism, and pedophilia, with the number of victims running as high as 300-600 by some accounts - including Henry's own, at times - though this figure is likely inflated.

By all accounts though, Lucas, frequently working with partner Ottis Toole - a self described arsonist and cannibal - savagely murdered literally scores of victims of all ages, races, and genders. All indications were then that this was pretty much of a no-brainer for America's premier hanging governor. But then a most remarkable thing happened. On June 18, just twelve days before Henry's scheduled demise, Governor Bush asked the State Board of Pardons and Paroles, whose members are appointed by Bush himself, to review Henry's case. Strangely enough, eight days later the Board uncharacteristically recommended that Henry's execution not take place.

The very next day, just three days short of Henry's scheduled exit from this world, Lucas became the first - and to date only - recipient of Governor Bush's compassionate conservatism. The official rationale for this act of mercy was, apparently, that the evidence on which Lucas was sentenced did not support his conviction. There was a possibility that Henry was in fact innocent of the crime for which he was convicted. Never mind that many of the 130 death row inmates who did not get special gubernatorial attention prior to their executions had credible claims of innocence that were met with by nothing but scorn and mockery.

Suddenly Little George had developed a keen interest in not executing innocent convicts. Never mind as well that some of those who have been executed despite claims of innocence were - other than the crime for which they were being executed - law-abiding citizens. Whereas Henry was by all accounts a serial rapist, kidnapper, torturer and murderer. And never mind that once Henry was spared, Bush promptly lost this passing interest and began once again rubber stamping every execution order that crossed his desk, including that of a great-grandmother in her sixties who was convicted of killing her chronically abusive husband (Betty Lou Beets, in February 2000).

And never mind that Bush has made no effort in the two years since Henry's commutation to seek a new trial for Henry on one of the murders for which there is conclusive evidence of Lucas' guilt. Neither has he made any effort to extradite Henry to any of the other states in which Henry is wanted for various murders. It seems to me that the last time I checked, there was no statute of limitations for the crime of murder. Why is Law-and-Order George not seeking a new death sentence for Lucas? And why is it that Henry was granted full clemency, rather than a temporary stay during which his case could have been reviewed? This is exactly what Bush has just done in the case of convicted murderer Ricky Nolen McGinn.

Tellingly, the proliferation of press reports on the McGinn case, apparently meant to soften Bush's image somewhat, have made virtually no reference to the governor's earlier actions on behalf of Lucas. Reporting on the McGinn case has avoided the mention of Lucas in one of two ways: by noting that this is the first capital case for which Bush has issued a stay(which is true but deliberately deceptive), or by claiming outright that this is the first death penalty case in which Bush has intervened (which is an outright and absolutely shameless lie).

And what if Lucas was in fact falsely convicted and his innocence was so blatantly obvious that the governor had no choice but to commute Henry's sentence? What then does this say about the Texas criminal justice system and the ease with which it sends innocent men to their deaths? Are we to believe that Henry's case was an isolated one and that none of the other men put to death during Bush's reign had equally credible claims of innocence?

Clearly, there was something more at work then in the Lucas case than simply a question of guilt. There had to be another reason why Bush would take such extraordinary steps to spare the life of a man who had led a life of such brutality. And this was certainly not the first time that the criminal justice system had shown such extraordinary leniency towards Lucas.

[Sound familiar?:]

The first big break for Henry came around 1970, when he was released early from a sentence he was then serving following his first murder conviction. Sentenced to 20-40 years, Henry was released after serving just ten. This occurred just after Henry appeared before the parole board and explained to them that he wasn't ready to return to society and would surely kill again if released. As Henry tells it, the questioning went something like this: "Now Mr. Lucas, I must ask you, if we grant you parole, will you kill again?" Henry: "Yes, sir! If you release me now, I will kill again."

Nevertheless, the board decided that ten years was an adequate amount of time to serve for the crime of killing one's mother and then violating the corpse. Fair enough. Within a year, of course, Henry found himself back in prison, this time for attempting to abduct a young girl. Despite his prior record - which began long before killing his mother - Lucas served just four years and was again released early, this time in August of 1975. Shortly thereafter, Henry and his new friend Ottis would commit an untold number of lurid murders spanning the next eight years. Henry would finally be arrested in October of 1982 on suspicion of two murders, only to be promptly released.
He was not arrested again until June of 1983, and has been imprisoned ever since.

After his final arrest, Henry was taken on tour, so to speak, by various law enforcement officials around the country, during which time he confessed to some 600 murders in 26 states. There were various charges made at the time that Henry was being used by his escorts to clear troublesome unsolved murders in places he had never even been.

This quite likely was the case. Henry seemed to have a very chummy relationship with his captors, particularly the Texas Rangers, and provided a valuable service for them by taking the rap for an amazing array of murders. This alone, however, does not explain the personal attention given to Henry's case by Governor Bush.

For that, we need to look at some of the more infrequently noted details of Henry's life history, many of them provided by Lucas himself. Henry, as it turns out, has some interesting stories to tell. In 1985, just a couple years into his incarceration, he attempted to tell his story in a book, written for him by a sympathetic author. The book, titled The Hand of Death: The Henry Lee Lucas Story, tells of Henry's indoctrination into a nationwide Satanic cult. Lucas claimed that he was trained by the cult in a mobile paramilitary camp in the Florida Everglades in the fine art of killing, up close and personal.

Other training involved abduction and arson techniques.

He further claimed that leaders of the camp were so impressed with Henry's handling of a knife that he was allowed to serve as an instructor. Following his training, Henry claimed to have served the cult in various ways, including as a contract killer [as was Manson] and as an abductor of children, who were then taken just over the border to a ranch in Mexico near Juarez. Henry has said that this cult operated out of Texas and from a ranch in northern Mexico, trafficking in children and drugs, among other nefarious pursuits.

In essence, Henry claimed that what appeared to be the random work of a serial killer was in fact a planned series of crimes often committed for specific purposes.

Some of the murders were political hits, according to Henry, including the occasional assassination of foreign dignitaries.

This was not true for all of Henry's crimes. Some he did just because that's what he liked to do. And it was the one thing that he was really good at.

The beauty of this arrangement was that it allowed Henry [and his political U.S. controllers] to conceal the true motive for many of his crimes. Those performed as contract hits [even on foreign dignitaries] looked like all of Henry's murders - senseless and random acts of violence.

In Henry's version of events, it was Toole who was responsible for Henry's recruitment and training by the cult and many of the pair's exploits thereafter. Interestingly, in all the standard biographies of the pair, Toole is said to have been Henry's severely retarded junior partner.

It is quite clear from reading an interview granted by Toole to a journalist (of sorts) that he was not by any means retarded.

Uneducated, no doubt, but definitely not severely retarded. Toole was in fact able to express himself quite clearly, though perversely, and displayed a substantial level of knowledge about the practices of Satanism. In fact, Toole - prior to his death in 1996- was able to give detailed accounts of he and Henry's activities that largely corroborated Henry's stories about the cult. But beyond the stories told by these two credibility-challenged witness/participants, is there any reason to believe Henry's bizarre tale of being a contract killer?

And what of Henry's other stories, including the one about being a close friend of Jim Jones of the People's Temple? [Equally discussed by Jeff somewhere as a hurriedly 'closed' MKLUTRA operation.]

Henry has claimed on numerous occasions that it was he who personally delivered the cyanide to Jones that was used in the infamous Jonestown massacre.

What are we to make of such stories? Could Henry have been telling the truth about being a contract killer? And if so, did the contracts he was receiving have some kind of government connection?

Though Henry never broaches the subject in his book, the training camp as he describes it clearly had military connections.

And Henry has explicitly stated that the cult included among its members various prominent persons, including high level politicians. Could this be the reason for the actions taken by Governor Bush in June of 1998?

"They think I'm stupid, but before this is all over everyone will know who's really stupid. And we'll see who the real criminals are." ---Henry Lee Lucas

[The Office of Naval Intelligence Runs One Branch of the U.S.'s MKULTRA Program]

"A U.S. Navy psychologist, who claims that the Office of Naval Intelligence had taken convicted murderers from military prisons, used behavior modification techniques on them, and then relocated them in American embassies throughout the world ... The Navy psychologist was Lt. Commander Thomas Narut of the U.S. Regional Medical Center in Naples, Italy. The information was divulged at an Oslo NATO conference of 120 psychologists [in 1975] from the eleven nation alliance ... The Navy provided all the funding necessary, according To Narut.

"Dr. Narut, in a question and answer session with reporters from many nations, revealed how the Navy was secretly programming large numbers of assassins. He said that the men he had worked with for the Navy were being prepared for commando-type operations, as well as covert operations in U.S. embassies worldwide. He described the men who went through his program as 'hit men and assassins' who could kill on command.

"Careful screening of the subjects was accomplished by Navy psychologists through the military records ... and many were convicted murderers serving military prison sentences."

(Harry V. Martin and David Caul "Mind Control, Napa Valley Sentinel, August-November 1991.)

Anyone familiar with the intelligence community's long-standing obsession with the concept of mind control will immediately recognize what Dr. Narut was describing as an MK-ULTRA project.

The existence of this particular manifestation of the project was first reported by British journalist Peter Watson of the Sunday Times, who attended the conference and interviewed Dr. Narut.

Narut told him that they looked for candidates who had shown a proclivity for violence.

This was at a time when numerous pseudo investigations of the intelligence community were underway, including the Rockefeller, Pike, and Church Committees. [In other words, this was one that got clamped down tight once more after slight attempts to clear it up.]

Narut told Watson that he was revealing this highly classified information only because he assumed it was about to surface anyway.

Of course, Narut was mistaken about the interest of the various committees in divulging anything even remotely resembling the trut

Narut promptly disappeared from public view, reappearing only briefly to lamely attempt to retract his prior statements. But it was a little too late.

Watson went on to expand upon this initial research to produce a book, War on the Mind, one of the better books from the late 1970's on the subject of mind control research by the intelligence community. Walter Bowart referenced Watson's work as well, in his nearly impossible to find Operation Mind Control.

So this cat, once let out of the bag, proved rather difficult to stuff back inside.

The intelligence community [specifically the Office of Naval Intelligence], it seemed, was recruiting from prisons to make use of the natural talents of convicted killers to produce the fabled 'Manchurian Candidates' - mind controlled assassins.

This operation involved killers drawn from military prisons, though there is no reason not to suspect that parallel programs were being conducted in civilian prisons as well.

Prisons have, after all, provided fertile ground for any number of MK-ULTRA sub projects for decades.

As the Napa Valley Sentinel article noted: "Mind control experiments ... permeate mental institutions and prisons." This was particularly true in the 1960's and 1970's.

The NATO conference at which Dr. Narut dropped his bombshell was held in July of 1975.

Strangely enough, the very next month Henry would be released to begin his eight year reign of terror.

Clearly of relevance here is the fact that Lucas, during his prior ten year prison stay, spent four and a half of those years in a mental ward. During this time, he received intensive drug and electroshock treatments. He would later describe this period of incarceration as a "nightmare that would not end."

Also during this time, he complained chronically about hearing voices in his head, taunting him day and night (ostensibly the reason for his confinement in the mental ward, though it could well have been the result of his confinement and treatment). Henry would later spend additional time in an institution in 1980, in the midst of his killing spree.

Was Henry recruited and programmed while in prison to be used latter by the so-called Hand of Death cult?

The possibility clearly is there.

He certainly had shown a voracious appetite for violence, enough so to make him a very attractive candidate. Indeed, Henry is just the kind of man to be considered a valuable asset by the intelligence community.

For anyone who doubts that the CIA (or any other of the numerous interwoven intelligence agencies) would recruit such a man, it is important to remember that we are talking about the same agencies that recruited some of the most bloodthirsty butchers of the Third Reich - men such as Klaus Barbie, Joseph Mengele, Adolf Eichmann, Otto Skorzeny, and Reinhard Gehlen.

Henry's depravity pales in the shadows of men such as these.

Henry probably couldn't even hold his own against some of the organized crime figures - such as Lucky Luciano, Meyer Lansky and Santos Trafficante who were likewise recruited by the CIA.


[INSET: and Meyer Lansky connects to the Bushes in the CIA; Meyer Lansky connects to Pelosi's father in the OSS/CIA]


Jewish Mafia, Meyer Lansky is TWO DEGREES OF SEPARATION......from George H. W. Bush [via their SHARED Melnik and Aranow ties] More information on that here.


14.Sep.2005 23:39
Pre-Katrina "urban renewal" buy-up of 25% New Orleans by alleged 9-11 mafia links

Are there NYC'er Judah Hertz links, who recently bought 25% of New Orleans,....to the more well known Bush Senior/Israeli mafia links?

This goes on about the tentative similar parallel to alleged gangster connected Hertz who just bought up 25% of New Orleans--and how he is alleged to be connected to the Israeli and Colombian Drug Cartels. That goes well with the more well known Bush/Israeli/Lansky/Malnik/ mafia connections--only one remove from George H. W. Bush.

It doesn't take a detective to note that if Hertz has alleged links to Israeli mafia and drug smuggling money laundering into real estate, and that the Bush ties into this very nexus of Israeli mafia are more well known, that the aftermath of the Hurricane Katrina disaster may have been well planned out at least 26 months in advance, when Hertz began to buy up 25% of New Orleans. Is this a Bush redevelopment operation outsourced to Hertz?

And if it is a PRELIMINARY buy-up, that makes the hurricane even more sinister if a HAARP attack was planned out with urban renewal in the same cold blooded breath. After all, Hurricane Katrina was heading directly across the Gulf of Mexico, until, screech, it makes a 90 right turn dead toward New Orleans when it gets directly south of it.


31.May.2004 21:11
book chapter: Drug Running Bush Family and their Fake War on Drugs: Police as drug pushers
author: tarplay

But the whole truth is much uglier. We have documented in detail how the Iran-contra drug-running and gun-running operations run out of Bush's own office played their role in increasing the heroin, crack, cocaine, and marijuana brought into this country.

We have reviewed Bush's relations with his close supporters in the Wall Street LBO gang, much of whose liquidity is derived from narcotics payments which the banking system is eager to recycle and launder.

We recall Bush's 1990 meeting with Syrian President Hafez Assad, who is personally one of the most prolific drug pushers on the planet, and whom Bush embraced as an ally during the Gulf crisis.

...Documents found by Burdick in the Dade County land records office show that USA Racing, the company operated by Aronow which built the Blue Thunder catamarans for the Customs service was not owned by Aronow, but rather by a one Jack J. Kramer in his capacity of president of Super Chief South Corporation. Jack Kramer had married a niece of Meyer Lansky. Jack Kramer's son Ben Kramer was thus the great nephew and one of the putative heirs of the top boss of the US crime syndicate, Meyer Lansky. Ben Kramer was also a notorious organized crime figure in his own right. On March 28, 1990 Jack Kramer and Ben Kramer were both found guilty of 23 and 28 counts (respectively) of federal money laundering charges.


09.Nov.2006 11:44
LIE that Organized Crime Linked Pelosi 'automatically' Speaker; John Conyers is MOST SENIOR

PELOSI IS A NEOCON ORGANIZED CRIME PLANT. Get rid of her! [1] Pelosi didn't even care about the vote fraud in the electoral college vote 2004 AGAINST her own party. She didn't even support questioning the fraud. [2] Pelosi called Hugo Chavez a "thug" for the Venezuelan President's "diablo" remarks about Bush. Pelosi thus defending Bush, when Bush is the real thug: Bush tried to oust Chavez in a bloody 2002 coup, Bush invaded and killed tens of thousands of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan, Bush gave Israel green light to pulverize Lebanon and kill over a thousand civilians, and Bush is the thug who tortures prisoners in U.S. custody." [3] "Pelosi, as bought as she is, is only the front. If you check immediately to her rear and everywhere else at her victory speech, you will find her handler, carefully tugging the strings, doing his ballet. None other than Mr. Democratic Congressional Committee Chairman and U.S. Representative from Illinois 5th District Dual American-Israeli Citizen Rahm Emanuel. This character has a resume that will never stand the light of day, and is worth a good long hard look..." [4] Particularly because of the Pelosi family links to Italian-Jewish organized crime historically. Her father, Thomas D'Alessandro, of U.S. Military Intelligence, allied with WWII right wing Lucky Luciano's U.S. Mafia. After WWII, Pelosi's father "D'Alessandro...elected Mayor of Baltimore in 1947...when Luciano's mob had a virtual free reign in...Baltimore [and shipped in the CIA's heroin that way]. It would appear that Ms. Pelosi has forgotten that her Mafia-linked father dealt with right wing thugs on a routine basis."

Pelosi, one degree of separation from......(Meyer-Lansky/)Lucky Luciano org crime; Luciano 'tight' with Pelosi's father who was in the OSS

Back to McGowan:

Or against the numerous thugs that the spooks have propped up as dictators around the world, men such as Somoza, Pinochet, Duvalier and Pahlavi, to name just a few.

In the company of men such as these, Henry would be just one of the boys.

No less valuable an asset than, say, Dan Mitrione, the CIA torture aficionado who was a boyhood friend of Jim Jones. This man, known for having homeless persons kidnapped for the purpose of giving torture demonstrations to South American security forces in his soundproof underground chamber of horrors, was hailed as a hero and martyr when he himself was tortured and killed. Hell, Frank Sinatra and Jerry Lewis flew into his home town and performed a benefit show to raise money for the widow of this great American.

So in the world of spooks, Henry would be in good company. As would his partner, Ottis Toole, who wouldn't even have the distinction of being the only cannibal recruited by the CIA.

[Phoenix Program Sourced and Recruited from 'Uncontrollable Criminals' as well]

As Douglas Valentine writes in The Phoenix Program (Morrow, 1990)- concerning the CIA's assassination, torture and terror program waged against the people of Vietnam - the Phoenix teams consisted of SEALs working with "CTs," described by one participant as "a combination of ARVN deserters, VC turncoats, and bad motherfucker criminals the South Vietnamese couldn't deal with in prison, so they turned them over to us."

The spooks were only too happy to employ the services of these men, who "taught [their] SEAL comrades the secrets of the psy war campaign." So depraved were these agency recruits that some of them "would actually devour their enemies' vital organs."

All in a day's work for America's premier intelligence agency.

Also included in the CIA rogue's gallery of distinguished alumni, according to a number of researchers, is Lucas' self-described "close friend," the notorious Jim Jones. What then are we to make of Henry's professed connection to the tragic People's Temple?

It has been documented by numerous investigators that the Jonestown massacre was not by any means a case of mass suicide, as was reported by the U.S. press. It was in fact a case of mass murder.

The Guyanese coroner, Dr. C. Leslie Mootoo, concluded that only three of the 913 victims at Jonestown died by means of suicide on that fateful day.

All of the rest were executed, some by lethal injection, some by strangulation, and some simply shot through the head.;

It is apparent then that if Lucas was in fact at Jonestown at the time of the mass murder, he was quite likely doing considerably more than just serving as a delivery boy.

A man of Henry's talents would bean invaluable asset in a clean-up operation of this type.

And what was being cleaned up [just like at the close of the "Manson Trial" when another non-sentenced, out in public 'Family' member was killed the day of the Manson sentencing] was, of course, yet another MK-ULTRA project, complete with vast stockpiles of drugs, sensory deprivation equipment, and a band of zombie-like assassins who gunned down Congressman Leo Ryan's entourage just prior to the massacre (thus necessitating the clean-up operation.)

Strange that Henry would claim a connection to a man whose operation was notable primarily for being a breeding ground for mind control and mass murder.

Of course Henry, being uneducated and illiterate, would not likely have had access to this information.

Even if Henry was literate, he would not have known the story that Maury Terry was to later tell in his book, The Ultimate Evil. Told therein is a tale that chillingly parallels that of Henry and Ottis. What Terry revealed was that the murders attributed to the Son of Sam, the Manson Family, and numerous other interconnected killings (including possibly the Zodiac murders) were not what they appeared to be.

While these killings appeared to be the random work of serial/mass murderers, they actually were contract hits carried out for specific purposes by an interlocking network of Satanic cults
(this book has, by the way, recently been reprinted by Barnes & Noble - go figure - and is highly recommended to anyone who questions the plausibility of Henry's story.)

In other words, these were professional hits orchestrated and disguised to look like the work of yet another 'lone nut' serial killer.

Which is, of course, exactly what Henry claimed his crimes to be, several years before investigative journalist Terry published his convincingly documented work.

Lucas' story then, as bizarre as it may appear to be, is certainly not without precedent. Other events that have transpired since Henry first began telling his tales of The Hand of Death lend further credence to various aspects of his story.

For example, there is the issue of the cult-run ranch just south of the border. While this may have sounded rather far-fetched back in the early 1980's, it certainly doesn't today.

In 1990, just such a ranch was excavated in Matamoros, Mexico, yielding the remains of over a dozen ritual sacrifice victims. While Ottis Toole - still alive at the time - noted that this was not the specific ranch with which he and Henry were associated, he also mentioned that there were numerous such operations in the area.

So closely did the Matamoros case parallel the stories told years before by Lucas that some law enforcement personnel in Texas chose to take a closer look at Henry's professed cult connections.

In fact, Jim Boutwell, sheriff of Williamson County, Texas later told a reporter that investigators had verified that Lucas was indeed involved in cult activities. And a decade later, yet another excavation was begun, this time at a ranch near Juarez, Mexico, which is precisely where Henry claimed it to be.

This story made a brief appearance in the American press in December of 1999, until U.S. [federal] officials moved in to take over the [locally honest] investigation, after which coverage promptly ceased.

Of course, it could just have been lucky guesses by Henry about the cult-run ranches and the networks of Satanic cults running murder-for-hire operations.

And it could just be a coincidence that Toole, who was convicted in the state of Florida, shared with Henry the fate of having his death sentence commuted.

[Jeb Bush's] Florida is, of course, a state that is also overly zealous in its application of the death penalty. Not zealous enough to execute the likes of Ottis Toole, however. In any event, it's interesting that both of these [MKULTRA and military commando trained] men had their death sentences set aside in states run by a member of the Bush family.

Its interesting also to take note of the case of the man known as the Railroad Killer, Rafael Resendez-Ramirez. On July 13, 1999, Ramirez was reported to have walked across a bridge from (where else?) Juarez, Mexico into El Paso, Texas and turned himself in. At the time he was wanted for a string of alleged serial killings. Mirroring the circumstances surrounding Henry's final arrest, Ramirez had been taken into custody several weeks prior by the U.S. Border Patrol, only to be promptly released despite his presence on FBI most-wanted lists and the issuing of alerts to the immigration service, and with a nationwide manhunt under way.

Between this detainment and his surrender, four more victims would be felled by Ramirez (who was, strangely enough, born in Matamoros and raised outside of the home by non-family members, according to his mother).

Apparently he still had a little work left to complete.

Having done so, Ramirez then made the incomprehensible decision to surrender to Texas authorities.

Crossing the border into Texas, Ramirez left a country with no death penalty and entered the execution capital of the western world.

The Los Angeles Times, in reporting on his surrender, noted that he was "adamant he wanted to surrender to a Texas Ranger," and that "he had not requested an attorney and was cooperating with detectives."

In the same article, it is noted that authorities say Ramirez is "strikingly intelligent." Strikingly intelligent? Not based on his actions taken on July 13th of last year.

But then again, perhaps Ramirez knows something about the Texas criminal justice system that the rest of us do not.

Ottis Toole: I've been meaning to ask you ... that time when I cooked some of these people? Why'd I do that?

Henry Lee Lucas: I think it was just the hands doing it. I know a lot of things we done, in human sight, are impossible to believe.

Ottis Toole: When we took 'em out and cut 'em up ... rememberone time I said I wanted me some ribs? Did that make me a cannibal?

Henry Lee Lucas: You wasn't a cannibal. It's the force of the devil, something forced on us that we can't change. There's no reason denying what we become. We know what we are.


George W. Bush: Brownsville Satanic Cult Member?

George W. Bush: Brownsville Satanic Cult Member? The following is an item from Sunnyvale Ca. from the 2000 election.

"SUNNYVALE, CA - Telling reporters and critics to 'stick to the issues that matter', Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush declined to answer questions Monday concerning his alleged involvement in a 1984 Brownsville, TX, mass murder, in which 17 people were ritualistically murdered and skinned.

'I will not stoop to discussing that,' said Bush during a campaign stop at a Bay Area software-packaging plant. 'We've got people across this country without health care, a broken educational system, taxes that are way too high, and all you want to talk about is something THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED 16 years ago? I'm sorry, but I find that offensive.' " (Emphasis added).

Bush, the son of a billionaire, was strangely living in the most impoverished place in America, Brownsville.

Bush was living nearby to and also inside the headquarters of a Satanic Cult of which he was a member.

Bush disappeared for three days during which ALL of the other of his fellow Cult Members were slaughtered.

After he reappeared he could not explain where he had been.

The local prosecutor continued to pursue Bush, sole Cult survivor, on mass murder charges for six months thereafter, heavily pressured by Daddy Bush to stop the investigation.

For asking these questions the reporters were threatened with reprisals later by Bush and thereafter have feared for their life.

Currently, as to 2004, Bush and Kerry have long been members of a Satanic Cult, Skull & Bones (Yale).


Following the attempted assassination of President Ronald W. Reagan, shortly after his inauguration, 1981, George Herbert Walker Bush, as Vice President, on a day to day basis, until the end of Reagan's second term, 1988, actually ran the White House.

In 1988, Daddy Bush was himself elected President, actually Bush's third term.

In so doing, the elder Bush was violating the U.S. Constitution, 22nd Amendment, restricting the President to two terms.

During that time, and even before, Daddy Bush and son George W. Bush had financial and satantic cult links with the drug trafficking from Colombia through the Brownsville/Matamoros area.

Brownsville is in the U.S. right smack on the Mexican border above Matamoros, Mexico.

At one time Daddy Bush owned Texas Commerce Bank implicated in the drug traffic through their branch in Venezuela. That unit, starting about 1979, was run by Jeb Bush living in Venezuela with his latino wife. They laundered the drug proceeds from Colombia and from there, through Mexico to the U.S.

The Bush Crime Family has for many years been business partners with the co-founder of the Medelin, Colombia drug cartel, Carlos Lehder. [See, the website series, www.skolnicksreport.com "The Chandra Levy Affair".]

This was convenient to Daddy Bush having been with the CIA since 1959, through their adjunct, principally owned by the Bushies, Zapata Petroleum, later called Zapata Offshore, still later their interests joined with Pennzoil which by an induced bankruptcy took over Texaco. [See, "Oil & Honor---The Texaco-Pennzoil Wars" by Thomas Petzinger, Jr., 1987, G.P. Putnam's Sons.]

The satanic cult mass-murders revolved around in the Brownsville/ Matamoros area.

Among those involved were El Padrino Cult; and located outside Matamoros, Rancho Santa Elena, having human sacrifice chambers; and the satanic ritual sacrifices and mind control conducted by Aldolfo De Jesus Costanzo with others.

The Bush Crime Family with their dope trafficking, Colombia through Matamoros, Mexico/ Brownsville, Texas, were interlocked with these situations.

The ranch was reportedly involved in snuffing out dozens and dozens of primarily latinos useful as "mules" in the drug trade and controlled through sexual satanic rituals and mind-control.

In the 1980s, Daddy Bush, actually running the White House, and former head of the American secret political police, was in perfect position to be part of the drug trafficking.

The elder Bush was the head of the "South Florida Anti-Drug Project," supposedly clamping down on drug trafficking from Colombia to Mexico [while simultaneously being Vice President.] During the 1980s, U.S. drug enforcement was near totally compromised and corrupted [at the Bush federal level].

A huge, heavy opus, mentioned in a moment, tells how the top people in the elite units of U.S. drug enforcement actually worked the other side.

From time to time, they went to parties at palatial estates in Mexico and elsewhere owned and operated by the major druglords. The drug police rubbed elbows there with movie stars and bigshots from Hollywood, users as well as traffickers with dope. [In recent years. George W. Bush, William Rockefeller Clinton, and Mexico President Vicente Fox have visited and stayed at the estates of Mexico's major druglords.]

For naive, poorly informed persons to risk their neck reporting druglords to the drug police is both tragic and laughable. [See that very thick book about the top drug enforcers, being for sale and totally corrupt, "The Underground Empire---Where Crime and Government Embrace", by James Mills, Doubleday, N.Y., 1986.]

One of those convicted of the satantic cult mass murders in the Brownsville/Matamoros region and elsewhere was a fellow named Henry Lee Lucas.

When George W. Bush was Governor of Texas, he mysteriously granted clemency to this mass-murderer.

Yet, there was no basis in law or fact for the Governor to so favor Lucas, other than the Bush Crime Family was in business with him in respect to the drug trafficking and satanic cult operations of the Brownsville/ Matamoros region.

With terrible-to-look-at pictures, the horrors of the one or more satanic cults so operating in the Brownsville/Matamoros region are detailed in a little-known, hard to locate book, "Hell Ranch" by Clifford Linedecker.

By 1999, some reporters had attempted to question George W. Bush as to some of the foregoing, while Bush was planning to run for President in the U.S. 2000 Election.

As the head of an investigative group and Founder/Chairman, since 1963 of the Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts, Skolnick began relating, on various radio talk shows, the problems the reporters were having in confronting George W. Bush with his apparent complicity in the satanic cult mass murders in the Brownsville, Texas area.

[Same issue of 'ahem, let me help you with this 'misinformation':]

Quite some time thereafter, several websites did acts in some ways relating to all this. They palmed off as apparent jokes and parodies, purported stories about the Brownsville/ Matamoros horrors.

Whether their purpose was reputed damage control for the Bush Crime Family or to simply somehow make jokes about the satanic mass murders, remains for such website handlers and operators to explain.

These websites apparently gave the impression to poorly-informed, naive people that the whole series of events in the Brownsville/ Matamoros region were purely imaginary, and never occurred and there was no complicity of the Bushies including George W. Bush.

Obviously to detail all the persons and entities involved with the satanic cultists, human sacrifice locations, and drug-traffickers and mind-control dictators, in the Matamoros/ Brownsville region would and could fill a series of encyclopedias on the dope business, satanic cults, corrupted dope enforcers, and related topics.

[A book that does go into many related details is "The Strength of the Wolf---The Secret History of America's War on Drugs" by Douglas Valentine, Verso Books, 2004, New York. The American CIA needs the druglords to be able to penetrate otherwise hard to spy on nations, is a theme of the book.]

[Loads of details of the Bush Crime Family are in the extensive website series, "The Overthrow of the American Republic", www.skolnicksreport.com with two linked sites.]

IS GEORGE W. BUSH's current opponent for President, JOHN F. KERRY different than Bush?

Both are satanic cultists, members of Skull & Bastards Society.

Knowledgeable sources [to the late Skolnick] contend that concealed in part by Kerry's divorce from his first wife and his silence about his episodes in England, are some horrors equal to the foregoing.

With the help of entertainers, Kerry in London, England, reportedly engaged in sexual perversions with 13 year old girls and even with those much younger; with Kerry somehow complicit in porno snuff rituals. That is, where after the weirdo event, the victim, whether three years old or thirteen, becomes a human sacrifice, and is killed on camera.

This type of thing originally was a specialty from Argentina. Will the newsfakers ever ask Kerry to explain?

George W. Manson? You Decide
00:47 sec
I thought GWB sounded a little too much like old Charlie Manson so using my completely inadequate video editing skills, I tried to create a sample of what such a fusion might look like.

There's a much better picture of Bush ranting like Manson that I have seen spliced together with Manson ranting in the same cadences though I can't find it right now.

I have a little clip copy of it, and if I find a place to post it I'll come back with a notice where it is.

1/18/2007 04:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think this was the video of Bush ranting in press conferences, spliced with rants exactly in the same tone of voice as Charlie Manson:

It may have been here, though the whole DC IMC is down right now:

"Does Fraud W Bush rant like Charlie Manson?"


So...I just uploaded a 2.8 MB file of 39 sec (.avi format) to the comments of this link, and it should be appearing there within a few hours...

1/18/2007 04:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice montage of Bush faces, some which really do remind me of Charlie Manson (which is the majority opinion of much of the YouTube comments to the "George W. Manson" vid above as well...

Bush Crazy Video, One Crazy Texan (3 min)

"Crazy' as another song for your 'heavy rotation', Jeff?

1/18/2007 05:19:00 PM  
Blogger Doc Nebula said...

I have a new post up about just why it is conservatives suck so much.

Just thought I'd let you know, since I'm a shameless blog whore and all. Plus, you might like it. You never know. I mean, I like your blog.

I know! I wish to fuck I'd stop using your comment threads to pimp out my own blog, TOO! What the fuck is WRONG with me, anyway? I get 19 or 20 hits a day! There are bloggers in Romania who would KILL for 19 hits a day! Why can't I just GROW THE FUCK UP? It isn't about me! It isn't about my blog! Nobody cares! I should just shut up and watch BATTLESTAR: GALACTICA and eat paste! Or write more insane near-pornographic borderline hallucinogenic TV parodies! But for the love of Jesus, why won't I leave you alone?

It's a hard life if you don't weaken. That's why I, like John Bigboote, am the weakest person I know.

1/18/2007 05:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I must admit, that is beyond peculiar that Dubya would commute Lucas' sentence from death to life. McGowan lays it out nicely without going over the top, IMHO.

Anybody watching the HBO Original Series, Rome? If not, you should check it out. Very well done...as are the majority of their Original Series. I only bring that up because there are interesting parallels....in otherwords, somethings never change...as the saying goes.

1/18/2007 08:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, what do you know? Didn´t take long, did it?

News Corp., MySpace Sued Over Sexual Abuse

1/18/2007 08:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember it was a double serial killer death sentence commuting by I believe Jeb Bush and George W. Bush instead of just the Bush-Lucas being the story.

Jeb Bush commuted the death sentence of Toole in Florida, the one with the Satan cult connections that 'recruited' Lucas, while George W. Bush commuted Lucas:

"In Henry's version of events, it was Toole who was responsible for Henry's recruitment and training by the cult and many of the pair's exploits thereafter. Interestingly, in all the standard biographies of the pair, Toole is said [seemingly falsely to disguise it] to have been Henry's severely retarded junior partner. It is quite clear from reading an interview granted by Toole to a journalist (of sorts) that he was not by any means retarded. Uneducated, no doubt, but definitely not severely retarded. Toole was in fact able to express himself quite clearly, though perversely, and displayed a substantial level of knowledge about the practices of Satanism. In fact, Toole - prior to his death [after death sentence commutation] in 1996- was able to give detailed accounts of he and Henry's activities that largely corroborated Henry's stories about the cult."

The murdering brother Bushes so instrumental in 9-11 events, double commuting a serial killer pair, is sick poetry. They were obviously told by someone above them to 'save' these serial killer guys for later--instead of waste such a 'huge investment' in them:

"And it could just be a coincidence that Toole, who was convicted in the state of Florida, shared with Henry [in Texas] the fate of having his death sentence commuted."

1/18/2007 09:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing personal IC, you just happened to be prodding me while I was in psychotic mode & I wasn't looking for a fight with you primarily because you're annoyingly impossible to insult.

If it makes you feel better, when I heard Tom Waits new cd Orphans he sings:

"Her hair was as black as a bucket of tar
Her skin was as white as a cuttlefish bone"

I thought of you.

So, are we still pals or what?

Having said that I'm going to point out how those Young Republicans are stepping up to plate in order to help their fearless leader head off an America damaging defeat in Iraq.

"Our generation has been courageous in combat, but the home front has yet to wholeheartedly endorse America's historic mission to transform the Middle East. Generation Y, which includes the GW student community, has denied the troops the steadfast support required for victory. Unless we vigorously defend the mission in Iraq, our country will again suffer a devastating defeat and its reputation will be irreparably damaged. We can't let this happen.

With President Bush's recent proposal to commit more than 20,000 new American troops to Baghdad, our generation has an opportunity to renew its devotion to winning the war on terror and earn its billing as the new greatest generation. The GW College Republicans will do its part to answer this critical calling.

We invite all students, regardless of party affiliation, to join us in visiting wounded American soldiers at Walter Reed Hospital this Friday night. While war is an understandable source of disagreement, we must transcend partisan divisions and facilitate broad-based support for the men and women of the armed forces. "

I think we can all learn something from this.

Mainly war-mongering Republican children are as fucking sissified as their war-mongering Republican daddies.

Hell, with testicles this damn tiny it's probably a good thing that these Bush lovers are choosing to play candy striper rather than join up. Their tendency to shriek like little children when confronted by any threat larger than a mean word from a Liberal blogger would probably just get people killed.

So, any fucking idea at all on how folk like draft-dodgers Limbaugh & Cheney & Bush, not to mention their sac-less offspring, are perceived as the manly defenders of America?

And to any Young Repubs who stop by for whatever twisted reason you'd stop by here:

Your mothers should have swallowed y'all.
The world would be a much better place without ye.

1/18/2007 10:31:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Hey, Richard!

You bring up a very interesting point with regard to those repugnant Republicans. Of course they’re hypocrites. Of course they’re lying, cynical douche-bags…or are they? Their leaders, for sure, but the grunts? Maybe they’re very, very stupid, but I bet the majority of these nitwits actually believe the nonsense they spout.
I’ve been giving this some thought because of the need to appeal to everyone—conservative, liberal, pessimist & optimist—in order to change the system. We all acknowledge the divide & conquer strategy at work here, but the only way to transcend it (aside from the sort of theatrical terrorism that got the country “behind our leader” 5 years ago) is to find some common interest.

If we take the position that everyone (however uninformed, misguided and/or brainwashed) genuinely wants what’s best for the world, or at least believes in the slogans we sell (truth, justice, liberty, etc), then maybe it’s possible to present an idea that would address the problems we face instead of avoiding the issues by hurling insults across the well-funded “party lines”.

I realize how tall an order this is, nigh unto impossible, probably, not to mention the fear & consternation such an occurrence would engender in those who profit from the divided house model of pseudo-governance, but I’ve been working on something to do just that for some time now. (No, Shrub; I’m not going to call a convention, spike the enchiladas with mescaline, and over-dub psychedelic videos on 50-foot screens with my take on reality…although I had considered such scenarios in my youth.)

But back to the original point. Not to borrow too heavily from Jeff’s playbook, but there’s also this undercurrent of competing realities at work here which goes far beyond the old “one man’s freedom-fighter is another man’s terrorist” (or even the same man’s ten years later, à la Osama & Saddam). Here’s a great example of this fundamental difference in perception, if not actual reality. The first one is William Blum writing about the National Endowment for Democracy in an essay called Trojan Horse:

How many Americans could identify the National Endowment for Democracy? An organization which often does exactly the opposite of what its name implies. The NED was set up in the early 1980s under President Reagan in the wake of all the negative revelations about the CIA in the second half of the 1970s. The latter was a remarkable period. Spurred by Watergate—the Church committee of the Senate, the Pike committee of the House, and the Rockefeller Commission, created by the president, were all busy investigating the CIA. Seemingly every other day there was a new headline about the discovery of some awful thing, even criminal conduct, the CIA had been mixed up in for years. The Agency was getting an exceedingly bad name, and it was causing the powers-that-be much embarrassment.

Something had to be done. What was done was not to stop doing these awful things. Of course not. What was done was to shift many of these awful things to a new organization, with a nice sounding name—The National Endowment for Democracy. The idea was that the NED would do somewhat overtly what the CIA had been doing covertly for decades, and thus, hopefully, eliminate the stigma associated with CIA covert activities.

It was a masterpiece. Of politics, of public relations, and of cynicism.

The website where I found this stuff then contrasts Blum’s take with Remarks to the National Endowment for Democracy by (sorry!) George W. Bush, where you find the very same organization described just a little differently:

Thank you all. Thank you all. Please be seated. Thank you for the warm welcome. I'm honored once again to be with the supporters of the National Endowment for Democracy. Since the day President Ronald Reagan set out the vision for this endowment, the world has seen the swiftest advance of democratic institutions in history. And Americans are proud to have played our role in this great story.

Our Nation stood guard on tense borders. We spoke for the rights of dissidents and the hopes of exiles. We aided the rise of new democracies on the ruins of tyranny. And all the cost and sacrifice of that struggle has been worth it, because from Latin America to Europe to Asia, we've gained the peace that freedom brings.

In this new century, freedom is once again assaulted by enemies determined to rollback generations of democratic progress. Once again, we're responding to a global campaign of fear with a global campaign of freedom. And once again, we will see freedom's victory.

Now, we might laugh (nervously) at our sadistic war criminal-in-chief’s stunning hypocrisy, but how do you suppose those Young Republicans you talked about would react to this speech, or to Blum’s view from the universe next door? Is dialogue between these multi-verses even possible? If not, does that mean we’re stuck with winner-take-all politics, or, at best, secessionist movements? Is there room for two universes in one galaxy?

1/19/2007 01:42:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Many of my in-laws and cousins are repub’s and somewhat ignorant. My work mates and friends are mostly demo’s. There is no discernable difference in the level of ignorance between the two groups, IMO. They are merely two differently disposed mentalities where both build their edifices of ignorance on unbalanced relations between order and liberty.

Of course I Love them all, they are my family and friends.

1/19/2007 06:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DJB: What do you see coming along up to 2012?

ROBERT: In Leary's terms, I think about one-third of the West now understands the neuro-somatic circuit, and some techniques for activating it. I think that's going to reach fifty to fifty-one percent pretty soon--

and that will be a major cultural change.

I think more and more understanding of the neuro-genetic and meta-programming circuits are coming along.

It's very obvious that quantum physics, parapsychology and all the work they're doing attaching brain scanners to Yogis and Zen masters means we're going to learn a great deal about the non-local quantum circuit.

I think the history of mysticism has been sort of like a bunch of firecrackers with two or three going off every century.

With the LSD revolution it became two or three every month and now it's moving up to two or three every week.

I see a real acceleration in consciousness, just like in technology.


RMN: Do you think society is evolving towards a more Dionysian character?

ROBERT: Yeah. We have been since the sixties. Woodstock was a Dionysian festival--it was the rebirth of Dionysus--and right away the lid came down. My God Dionysus is loose! King Pentheus immediately called out the cops. The Dionysian religion had entered his kingdom and he tried to crush it, but he was torn apart by his own mother. That's a warning of what happens when you try to suppress Dionysus; it's one of the classic Greek myths.


You go through a museum and you look at a Leonardo, a Botticelli, a Rembrandt, a Van Gogh, a Cezanne, a Picasso, a Klee, a Jackson Pollock, and it's obvious the value of each of them is that they weren't copying one another. If Van Gogh were copying Rembrandt nobody would give a damn for Van Gogh. He had the chutzpah to paint his own vision. Somebody having their own vision instead of just repeating an earlier one in a different style--that's information. Information is the new and unpredictable, and information theory led to the computers which fascinate artists. Computers have opened up whole new areas of art.

DJB: Information is the unpredictability of a signal, but it's not quite chaos or randomness. It carries a message.

ROBERT: Yeah. When unpredictability gets too high, information turns into noise. That part of Shannon's theory involves very complicated mathematics and I'm not sure I fully understand it; I just more or less intuitively follow it. There has to be an information redundancy ratio where the highest grade of information is diluted with repetition.


Robert:The NeoPagan movement is bigger than anybody knows, except the Fundamentalists, who think it's a Satanic movement -- which from their point of view, I guess it is.


I hope the bell of node rings for those of you who seek gnosis.


1/19/2007 06:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

was the first created before all creation; in her were all things; out of herself, the first darkness, she divided herself; into darkness and light she was divided. Lucifer, her brother and son, herself and her other half, was the light.

And when Diana saw that the light was so beautiful, the light which was her other half,

her brother Lucifer,

she yearned for it with exceeding great desire. Wishing to receive the light again into her darkness, to swallow it up in rapture, in delight, she trembled with desire.

This desire was the Dawn.

But Lucifer, the light, fled from her, and would not yield to her wishes; he was the light which files into the most distant parts of heaven, the mouse which flies before the cat.

Then Diana went to the fathers of the Beginning, to the mothers, the spirits who were before the first spirit, and lamented unto them that she could not prevail with Lucifer. And they praised her for her courage, they told her that to rise she must fall; to become the chief of goddesses she must become a mortal.

And in the ages, in the course of time, when the world was made, Diana went on earth,

as did Lucifer,

who had fallen, and

Diana taught magic and sorcery, whence came witches and fairies and goblins--all that is like man, yet not mortal.

And it came thus that Diana took the form of a cat. Her brother had a cat whom he loved beyond all creatures, and it slept every night on his bed, a cat beautiful beyond all other creatures, a fairy: he did not know it.

Diana prevailed with the cat to change forms with her, so she lay with her brother, and in the darkness assumed her own form, and so by Lucifer became the mother of Aradia. But when in the morning he found that he lay by his sister, and that light had been conquered by darkness, Lucifer was extremely angry; but Diana sang to him a spell, a song of power, and he was silent, the song of the night which soothes to sleep; he could say nothing. So Diana with her wiles of witchcraft so charmed him that he yielded to her love. This was the first fascination, she hummed the song, it was as the buzzing of bees (or a top spinning round), a spinning-wheel spinning life. She spun the lives of all men; all things were spun from the wheel of Diana. Lucifer turned the wheel.

Diana was not known to the witches and spirits, the fairies and elves who dwell in desert place, the goblins, as their mother; she hid herself in humility and was a mortal, but by her will she rose again above all. She had such passion for witchcraft, and became so powerful therein, that her greatness could not be hidden.

And thus it came to pass one night, at the meeting

of all the sorceresses and fairies, she declared that she would darken the heavens and turn all the stars into mice.

All those who were present said--

"If thou canst do such a strange thing, having risen to such power, thou shalt be our queen."

Diana went into the street; she took the bladder of an ox and a piece of witch-money, which has an edge like a knife--with such money witches cut the earth from men's foot-tracks--and she cut the earth, and with it and many mice she filled the bladder, and blew into the bladder till it burst.

And there came a great marvel, for the earth which was in the bladder became the round heaven above, and for three days there was a great rain; the mice became stars or rain. And having made the heaven and the stars and the rain, Diana became Queen of the Witches.

Chapter III:

1/19/2007 07:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Jeff, and hello to the regulars.

@ letting bad situations develop to capitalize on outcomes.

An example of something very big about to happen in China. Very Big.

China suffered from a terrible Famine in 1959 - 1961 period.

Today, 46-48 years later the people in control in China, The primary spending demographic, and the 'guilt' survivor group, are about to embark on economic, financial, political, and military upheaval

'They' know all about it because they study demographics.

It is the study of demographics, just like what happen in Japan in 1989, and Berlin Wall, same year.

Focus on primary spending demographic PEAK spender, approx AGE 46. (it is different for every country because it's based on Average Life Span)

1989 - 46 = 1943 (Turn of War)

2007 - 46 = 1961 (China famine)

Please look at graph of Famine deaths, 1959-61, it is scariest graph ever.

Information is not in World Book encyclopedia! Imagine that.

Biggest famine of our times, and not in the encyclopedia regarding China.

Be Well

1/21/2007 02:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Manson was in vacaville prison in the early sixties at exactly the same time there were CIA auspiced mind control/pysch experiments being conducted on 'volunteer' inmates there.

Ed Sanders hints at FBI meetings with CM also in his book.

1/22/2007 08:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...as Kurt Nimmo noted..."

... absolutely nothing worth citing in 2007. Unless this is the first your readers have heard of this "Samarra Mosque bombing"

The account of uniformed Iraqis tying up men and planting the bombs is sentence number 2 in its wikipedia entry with 6 different credible news sources, none of which involve amatuer translation of anonymous bloggers interpreted by another blogger prone to grand misinterpretations.

The account of US personnel telling people to stay inside while they patrolled an area for a time period corresponding to the mentioned declared curfew it is their job to enforce really needs no reference beyond a dictionary definition for the word "curfew".

The only mysterious detail raised would appear to be Iraqis wearing defense force uniforms being involved in acts of terrorism. The prerequistite for that mystery existing, of course, is a complete ignorance of the other 74,842 news articles where this pattern is repeated in a country where uniforms are given to anyone who survives lining up for them.

Yes, what a contribution from Kurt that was.

1/25/2007 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon(s) who mentioned Roman Polanski: according to Devon Jackson's Conspiranoia!, Manson was a "rumored member of the Process, ex-Scientologist Robert DeGrimston's black magic sect... The night before he was killed, [Bobby] Kennedy had dinner with Roman Polanski... Sharon Tate and John Frankenheimer... [Sirhan] Sirhan is also alleged to have been involved with the Process... and he may have even attended parties thrown by alleged fellow Process enthusiasts Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski..." (from the entries on Manson, the RFK hit and Sirhan, in the chapter "The Manchurian in the Rye") Jackson never draws an overt connection here; that was left to my mind to do.

Iridescent Cuttlefish: no, I don't think communication across universes is possible. (The question reminded me of this cartoon by the ever-brilliant Tim Kreider, though.) Living in central Pennsylvania, getting a local daily newspaper and one from just over the Maryland line, I see every day that these people inhabit a radically different reality-tunnel from mine, and I lack the patience to try and break through to them.

But time has a way of bringing even mountains down, down
Storm clouds are comin', I suggest you head for higher ground...

1/31/2007 04:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.

Everything has its wonders, even darkness and silence, and I learn whatever state I am in, therin to be content

Never bend your head. Hold it high. Look the world straight in the eye.

People do not like to think. If one thinks, one must reach conclusions. Conclusions are not always pleasant.

The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched. They must be felt within the heart.

Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. Security does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than exposure.

Helen Keller
US blind & deaf educator (1880 - 1968)


2/18/2007 04:45:00 PM  
Blogger butlimous said...

Nice post! keep it up...

9/04/2007 02:42:00 PM  
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