Friday, August 17, 2007

Friday, August 17

Angels in the library
from Wings of Desire

Just several recent stories that suggest a cascading of novelty, in case you missed them while staring into this abyss.

Scientists from Russia, Germany and Australia have found that inorganic dust in plasma exhibits characteristics of self-organization, attraction and reproduction: "all the necessary properties to qualify them as candidates for inorganic living matter."

A team of German physicists investigating "quantum tunneling" have reportedly broken the speed of light.

Scottish physicists have found a way to reverse the Casimir effect - the attraction between two surfaces in a vacuum - "solving" the mystery of levitation.

And perhaps it is an Alternative Reality Game after all: Oxford Professor of Philosopher Nick Bostrom has set the odds at one-in-four of our universe being a sophisticated simulation.

"If the morphogenic field is not subject to the inverse square laws that indicate decreased influence over distance, then I can't see why it couldn't be located at the conclusion of a cosmological process. One of the things that's always puzzled me about the Big Bang is the notion of singularity. This theory cannot predict behavior outside its domain, yet everything that happens and all our other theories follow from it. The immense improbability that modern science rests on, but cares not to discuss, is the belief that the universe sprang from nothing in a single moment. If you can believe that, then it's very hard to see what you can't believe."
- Terence McKenna, in Chaos, Creativity, and Cosmic Consciousness

"A liturgy for which no one need be initiated to the meaning of the words and phrases."


Blogger Nogo Mixon said...

Like I said, it's all the faulth of the muslim maniacs. Even our puppets Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan and al Maliki in Iraq can't get it straight. They said this week that Iran has played a helpful and constructive role in their respective nations. As soon as these two marionettes made their comments, George dubya set 'em straight by declaring the largest component of the Iranian military as an "international terrorist organization". I think it would have been more direct just to call them muslim maniacs, but you get the drift. First time ever the U.S. Gov't, or any other one for that matter, has designated the regular military of a sovereign nation to be a terrorist organization. But it's got a catchy ring to it. Probably them muslim maniacs will now start saying the same thing about the U.S.

But we know better.

We're the good guys.

Just ask Pat Tillman.

8/17/2007 03:53:00 PM  
Blogger Tin Mole Man said...

Jeff said:

Nick Bostrom sets the odds at 20%.

Do you mean, he sets the odds at 1:4?

Using the word 'percent' in place of 'odds' necessitates a different syntax. Perhaps one could have said, "Nick Bostrom says there is a 20% chance," a common vernacular for expressing fractionally probable outcomes.

8/17/2007 04:12:00 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

Yes, thanks. I'll change that.

8/17/2007 04:14:00 PM  
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8/17/2007 04:17:00 PM  
Blogger Nogo Mixon said...

If you appreciated Stuart Bykofsky's call last week for a "new, helpful 9/11" to put America back on track, as broadcast on FOX and CNN, then you'll likely appreciate the following from Family Security Matters (FSM)'s cadre of "security moms". Since this FSM author is one Philip Atkinson, I guess he must be a "security dad".

By the way, FSM's phone number is one and the same as that for the Center for Security Policy, run by Frank Gaffney, ex Bush hack.

The Center for Security Policy is an umbrella organization that includes the National Security Advisory Council, whose members hold senior positions within the Bush administration itself. Former and current members include Dick Cheney, Richard Perle, Elliott Abrams and the organization has also given awards to Donald Rumsfeld.

The FSM foundation itself also has ties to the Anti-Defamation League, the International Women's Forum, numerous nationwide television and print media outlets, and includes on its board of advisors Neo-Con radio host Laura Ingraham and former director of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, James Woolsey. Here's a brief excerpt of the posting on their website from August 3rd:

If President Bush copied Julius Caesar by ordering his army to empty Iraq of Arabs and repopulate the country with Americans, he would achieve immediate results: popularity with his military; enrichment of America by converting an Arabian Iraq into an American Iraq (therefore turning it from a liability to an asset); and boost American prestiege while terrifying American enemies.

He could then follow Caesar's example and use his newfound popularity with the military to wield military power to become the first permanent president of America, and end the civil chaos caused by the continually squabbling Congress and the out-of-control Supreme Court.

President Bush can fail in his duty to himself, his country, and his God, by becoming “ex-president” Bush or he can become “President-for-Life” Bush: the conqueror of Iraq, who brings sense to the Congress and sanity to the Supreme Court. Then who would be able to stop Bush from emulating Augustus Caesar and becoming ruler of the world? For only an America united under one ruler has the power to save humanity from the threat of a new Dark Age wrought by terrorists armed with nuclear weapons.

Yep, it's them damn muslim maniacs wanting to kill innocent people again that is causing all the problems in the world.

When oh when will they give up their death-loving muslim maniac ways?

8/17/2007 04:28:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Richard..good of you to project your activities on others. We have alot in common.

I wonder if you would consider the 25 km. perimeter around that CP hotel summit in Quebec as some sort of conspiracy? If the men patrolling the perimeter around that hotel are U.S. military, would that be stranger than strange? Some would call that an occupation. Others might think our fearless leaders working in secret within a 25 km. military zone have something to hide. And of course, you have to consider the feelings of the participants. I'm sure a few of those protestors with their fake signs are actually fitted with suitcase nukes but then why would they think of something like that?

8/17/2007 04:29:00 PM  
Blogger Tin Mole Man said...

Jeff’s invocation of the word Messiah is right in line with the false connotation that the media ascribes to the word, and he uses the same symbolism as the media as well: the old Waco, crazy, megalomaniac meme.

However the media (and their lapdogs) portray the idea of Messiah, dirtying it up with the idea: anyone who is a megalomaniac must be, in their eyes, proclaiming he is the Messiah, since anyone who thinks he is better than royalty must think he is the Messiah: the Messiah is the only being that could possibly be better than royalty in the eyes of royalty.

The irony is, if a Messiah, or many Messiahs, came to save anyone from their depravity, there would be a stock dismissal ready and waiting.
Look at all the Messiahs in Quebec, trying to save people with signs. Albeit an incorrect (unskillful) approach, still, they are all saying, "we think what we think is better than what you think." And they might even be right...hence the shoot-to-kill orders.

Another irony is that, when the idea of anti-Semitism comes up, we here at RI become extremely defensive of the Jews, yet, at some point, in order for Jews to at all consistent, they will have to eventually choose someone as the Messiah, i.e. someone will have to come out and “say it” if they are tapped by the kyke Zionists, i.e. the Jews will eventually choose someone to be their “final” scapegoat (as prophesied in Leviticus), as Jesus was held to be by canon law of the Roman Catholic Church ante Vatican II.

Yet another irony: If the Jews pick someone as their final scapegoat, their Messiah (in Hebrew, ‘the anointed one’), their Wickerman, then the media, owned by the Zionists, the people who make up the biggest explicitly known group in world politics aside from Masons, will deride this anointed one (that they anointed for—excuse the pun—Christ’s sake!) for thinking (knowing) that he is a scapegoat, a Messiah, forced into a role no one should ever want to play for a group of ungrateful swine like humans.

Yet another strange point that is begging to be made is, since the Jews don’t believe that Jesus was the Messiah and the Christians do, when the Jews pick this person to be their final scapegoat and kill him (send him out into the wilderness to die), and the Christians, according to the Book of Revelations, intend on anointing him as King upon the Second Cuming, isn’t this a fundamental flaw in the two religions? Won’t George W. Bush, the Christian, have to have a fist-fight with his Zionist friends???????????? Will all hell break loose when the Zionists finally erupt in their final delusion of grandeur with their personification as a blonde god?

Stay tuned.

8/17/2007 04:46:00 PM  
Blogger Tin Mole Man said...


False Syndrome Memory?

8/17/2007 04:47:00 PM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

If we nuke Iran in a
"preemptive" first strike, doesn't
that give China or Russia or any
other country that has a nuke the
OK to hit us first if they think
we are the "threat"? Just asking...

8/17/2007 04:56:00 PM  
Blogger Peter said...

FSM = Flying Spaghetti Monster

8/17/2007 05:09:00 PM  
Blogger omnimental said...

FSM = Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Yeah, and Christ is my stepfather. Tell me another one.

Peter, you are a sick, sick, pervert and I would hope that no child is ever exposed to such filth. You should be beaten with a dildo.

8/17/2007 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger just_another_dick said...

That's the great thing about being a "conspiracy theorist" ericswan, you can be wrong a million effing times & there won't be one iota of apology or self reproach, but be right one time & they never let anyone forget about it.


I suppose that if there were any real world negative consequences to all this on-line kvetching then no one would do it, now would they?

8/17/2007 07:12:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Interesting that you should bring that up. There is currently a half dozen lawsuits against some members of the blogging community that are also members of the B.C. Green party that are being sued by another in their membership because they simply posted a link of one article to blogs that the litigant claims defamed him. Just links but then Canadian law has it's foibles.

8/17/2007 08:43:00 PM  
Blogger Nogo Mixon said...

"It's virtually impossible to stop these maniacs as they try to kill innocent people, but we will continue to go after them."

(Very Modern)Major General Benjamin Mixon, on the

Lou Dobbs Report, CNN, August 15, 2007

In the video on the CNN website he actually said "muslim maniacs", but that ethnic remark has been cleansed, you might say.

8/17/2007 10:49:00 PM  
Blogger Nogo Mixon said...

“This is an act of desperation by a group of maniacs who continue to offer only death, destruction and violence to the innocent citizens of Iraq,” said Army Maj. Gen. Benjamin R. Mixon, commander of 25th Infantry Division and Multinational Division North.

Propaganda of psychological projection, one of the oldest techniques in the book. Thus, people who believe in boxcutters and collapsing pancakes are sane, "of us," and those who don't are to be "otherized" into oblivion.

Truth marches on.

You're such a good soldier, Jeff...said, not sarcastically, or even ironically, but truthfully.

But soldier in whose cause?

8/17/2007 10:54:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

I'm hardly in a position to judge whether the whole universe is a simulation, though a great deal of the human political one is a simulation. For instance--

There's an astounding array of high political synchronicities going on, regarding the August 20-24, 2007 "nuclear terror drill" named Noble Resolve in Portland, Oregon.

It might go live.

Everything from the same institutions that 'did such a heck of a job, Brownie!' in Hurricane Katrina's aftermath in providing 'coordination' (or lack thereof) like Swan Island corporation which is involved in this terror drill even after Katrina's heinous organization); to Portland Oregon getting some hefty money poured into creating a virtual computer city simulation which the experimenters can poke around and manipulate all sort of real time variables and hypothesize reactions. This is supposedly the only one for a major city in the U.S. outside of a "government Manhattan SimCity".

By the way, 9-11 was being run of course during another 'bioterror drill' on the harborfront. They were using the only other gov't SimCity, the gov't "Mannhattan SimCity" software just like the one that was constricted simply to model Portland. And it all goes live in its use during the real terrorism events of September 11 as a management tool, instead of simply a training tool.

In Portland, a lot of major systemic heads of the city--like the mayor, some shipping companies (that were involved in the drill, just suddenly closing and moving out of Portland supposedly), and the fire chief are all on vacation or out of town. The CEO of Swan Island suddenly is 'unavailble for comment' and proclaimed out of town and even 'look, we're no longer involved, so leave us alone' despite lots of their own PR material saying their instrumental participation.

BAE, which presumably has links to a major covert wars slush fund of at least 160 billion dollars that has gone missing and laundered, is instrumentally part of this 'terror drill. What makes it particularly interesting is that BAE is a British defense corporation doing software integration for a U.S. DOMESTIC [?] terror drill. Since when do foreign countries run other country's terror drills in the latter country's interest, instead of the former. It's additionally an excellent route for insulating U.S. jurisdictional culpability to put their domestic terror drills under foreign corporations.

There's a slew of other things going down there during August 20-24.

Any interesting grandstanding events going on internationally in the global corporate media simulation that would benefit from this, anyone?

After all, Cheney is reputed to have ordered the USCENTCOM to ready an "attack Iran" battle plan "in the event that nuclear terrorism strikes the U.S., even if it such terrorism does not have Iran as its source".

More on BAE and the Cheney's Iran posture:

CHENEY + 'NOBLE RESOLVE' GOES LIVE = ATTACK IRAN, a look at the facts and corp. relations on upcoming TERROR DRILL in Portland, Oregon, August 20-24, 2007, that might 'go live' and lead to U.S. attack on Iran

repost, 13.08.2007 04:10

Cheney:'If I get Noble Resolve terror attack to'go live' on Porland I hit Iran.'

CHENEY + 'NOBLE RESOLVE' = ATTACK IRAN, a look at the facts and corp. relations involved to make it happen

"We might keep another "9-11" from occurring by looking into this: yet another foreign corporation over U.S. 'security'!

Homeland (In)Security is run by the traitors themselves, giving away U.S. domestic security contracts to criminal foreign corporations like BAE (noted below) that don't have an interest in protecting the USA, only getting it into foreign wars for their home countries. "However BAE, it has recently come to light in European and BBC sources, is a British defense/software company more than serving its share as a money laundering front operation. By the British media, it has been caught providing hidden bribery/cash funneling to 'work' pet warmaking projects off the books, between Britain and Saudi Arabia. Cheney gets connected to the BAE.

The upcoming "Noble Resolve" U.S. terror drill to hit (hopefully not) Portland, Oregon after August 20, 2007, is organized through BAE (and "Hurricane Katrina" participating Swan Island corp!); BAE is the largest British military industrial complex corporation, a foreign military corporation, over U.S. domestic terror response.

Since foreign defense/surveillance corporations were involved in 9-11, it is important to know about BAE and all the issues revolving around what would happen to the neocon's desire to hit Iran if "nuclear terror" were to hit the USA."

After all, the 7/7/05 state terrorism in Britain went down as a drill gone live, according to Peter Powers who was managing everything for the UK, then he noted in his Live BBC interview later how daft he is, when he said (paraphrasing, get it actually at the link below) "the strange thing is that we were working on an exercise during that period that was almost virtually identical to what started to occur in the terror events, down to the exactly locations we were drilling terror for, just started to happen as real."

During 7/7/05 in London, Bush and Blair and others were at the G8 meeting. They originally were going to be challenged by the other G8 at that meeting in Scotland, though suddenly US/UK got to change the subject from their critique and pre-emptive invasion of Iraq toward 'standing together against terrorism'--which of course was assuredly done by the British state (perhaps outsourced for UK legal rationales with help through Giuliani services, who said he just happened to be in town in London at the time, fancy that). Then British BAE might be doing the US a favor to perhaps make the Portland nuclear terror drill they are running go live.

On the 7/7 terror drill going live in Britain as just a ruse to organize actual terrorism and be prepared to respond.

8/17/2007 11:05:00 PM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

My favorite theory of "reality"
( Theory Of Reality??) is your post
a couple of months back that stated
that DNA molecules give off flashes
of light... making us, in essence,
sentient holograms.

We are stardust,
We are golden...

8/18/2007 12:28:00 AM  
Blogger Nogo Mixon said...


Thanks for the heads up. No doubt, if that terror drill thing goes live, it'll be because of some damn muslim maniacs who just want to kill innocent people and destroy our way of life.

Guess we'll just have to nuke Iran after that in order to prevent the further loss of innocent life.

8/18/2007 01:10:00 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

On the previous theme of harmonics, some are going to love this.

Kepler's Orrery
Generative music based on gravity equations

an inline applet program you can play with.

Here's a video recording of one 'working' or 'playing,' or whatever verb you think is suitable: 'harmonic gravitating' perhaps. (1:33)

John Cage would be proud.

8/18/2007 05:18:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Lots of folks come ’round dissing Jeff ’bout this ’n that~~asinine insinuations aplenty, as if Jeff were obliged to say what they wanted to hear~~which spectacle is beyond my meager ken. Yeah, yeah, I’m kissing ass to lavish easy praise, but hey, it’s my nickel, so there.

Here’s the deal for me on this one: it captures a moment in thought perfectly for me, as if Jeff had tuned his coil to my resonance through some sheer accident. These latest pieces I would call Dance on a Volcano if that title weren’t already taken by another apocalyptic calypso; last thread Dr. Bombay phrased our collective response as a sort of raging at Ragnarök. I’d like to think that these last-minute forays into the meaning of life were not merely a frittering away in an offhand way the last hours and days left to us...but surely the citizens of Atlantis must have entertained similar speculations on the eve of destruction.

Is it ironic that Mr. Sheldrake, whose work inspired a new wish for the old tradition of book burning in the starched halls of academe, would finally be vindicated, when it appears to be too late to do anything with this new found understanding? Or that gravity and light might finally be giving up their secrets?

Maybe not.

In Jeff’s link to Arthur Silber’s The Worsening Nightmare, we find another Billmon’s despair, and it is rightfully frightening, this new rush to war and worse, but even Silber manages to find a tiny ray of hope in the possibility that some great statesman might lay the real cards on every somnambulist’s dinner tray:

[L]et me offer the only suggestion I have, and a possible way to stop our trance-like sleepwalking into catastrophe. For the reasons Billmon details and those discussed above, we cannot expect a spontaneous grassroots movement of any size to protest this insanity. I would offer a judgment about what that signifies about the moral character and intellectual seriousness of the American public, but I consider that unnecessary -- and you know what that judgment is in any case. And we certainly cannot expect our criminally negligent and completely unserious media to make clear what is at stake, even if it is literally the future of the world.

What we desperately need is a hero -- either an individual or a group, or some combination of both. It is entirely possible that it would require only one individual of national prominence to state the issues clearly to the American public. He or she could give a series of speeches and press conferences, preferably starting tomorrow. I still hope and would like to think that, if the issues were made unmistakably plain, enough Americans would respond. Our hero would have to explain the immorality of an attack on a nonexistent threat, and why it is unthinkable that we would use nuclear weapons, even "tactical" ones, in a non-defensive way. The issues are not that complicated. What dooms us is the current conspiracy of silence: a culture where no one dares to identify with stark clarity what is at stake, and what will result from our actions. And it must be made absolutely clear that if we were to launch yet another series of attacks on a country that does not threaten us, and if we were to use even one nuclear weapon of any kind, the mantle of "exceptionalism" would still be ours -- but it would be the kind of exceptionalism accorded to the worst monsters of history.

Many of us think that the Empire must die, one way or the other, in order for the world to live. Shrub predicts panic & mayhem; all of us carry Mel Gibson’s Mad Max meme around in our cluttered heads. Some of us also know about other endings of empire, from Tolkien’s recollection of legends passing into myth, which speaks of three boatloads of “good” Numenoreans escaping the destruction, to the "true" founding myth of Atlantean survivors building pyramids in Egypt and even Noah’s shallow gene pool cruiser—there as many different stories as there are cultures left alive to tell them.

But what if one honest man could be found to light the lamp of the world and pull us back from the brink, as Silber still hopes? Why not a whole room full of honest folk who present the case for Life in one of those flash macromedia vids? It seems to me that a very cogent message summarizing both the dangers of the latest Nazi death wish and the right bright alternative could be fashioned in no time flat and sent out like a cyberous bio-phage into the ether before they pull the plug, reaching everyone who’s connected with the good news that we don’t really have to die.

There’s another meme that’s been sitting dormant in our psyche for a few decades now that is all too happy to announce “I’m not dead yet!” when the ominous wagons come to collect us.

Having raised the banner of fantasy yet again, I'll conclude with how Silber sees Diogenes' triumph working out:

There is still time for Americans to hear that message. If enough of them responded -- and I think they might -- then we could have a massive march on Washington, hopefully numbering in the millions. Extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures. And even if such a demonstration or series of demonstrations did not succeed in stopping the current group of madmen in power, it would have one possibly critical additional result: it would at least tell the rest of the world that a significant number of Americans protested the madness, and were completely opposed to this unleashing of destruction. That might matter in the aftermath; it might matter a lot.

And now for something completely...similar. Mark, did you know that Kepler was also one of the many who maintained a belief in the hollow earth theory? (Or so Pynchon's been telling me.) I know you think old Johannes might have been a murderer, too, but he is a vital link in the PKS school. So thanks for posting that latest bit--tuning in the right frequency might be our only chance, in the end.

8/18/2007 12:51:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

I see you slipped in some Schauberger on your unsuspecting public yet once again. LOL

This time, however, you are cause and effect. I just spent an hour stripping copper wire and wrapping it around my incoming copper pipes. 30 feet is now now 2 feet of coiled spiraled, gyred, and vortexed water with the light.

Here's a link that exposes a hook you wouldn't have thought would be there. that again..hehe

8/18/2007 05:02:00 PM  
Blogger Tin Mole Man said...

Now that we all know, due to the last few threads, that conspiracies are very improbable if not impossible, can we get on with some question-and-answer sessions?

Here’s a question: why do we know so much about Michael Jackson? Are all of the journalists, despite very well detailed reports from the University of Pennsylvania authored by Richard J. Estes and Alan Weiner regarding the global industry that is human trafficking, all convinced that cult-of-personality music-industry victims from the age of five years are the only sexual threat to our North American Chastity? This must be the case. Journalists don’t talk much to each other. They just sit in their cubicles and cover what they see as ‘fit to print’. When they do talk—about, say, reports that were published one day before September 11, 2001—they only discuss such reports in terms of the readability of the paper for which they write. The say things like, “Yeah, the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of child prostitutes available to those with money 24/7, I think that one weird, surgically challenged, pedophile pop-star will sell more papers, so much so that the story about the exploitation of hundreds of thousands of children by well organized gangs (who cannot conspire since conspiracies are impossible) is totally irrelevant and shouldn’t be covered at all, that is, there should be zero coverage of it. All of Us here at the Times know that no one will buy a paper if we tell them that there are probably over 10,000 underage prostitutes of both sexes available to them in their city or state.”

Information dissemination is all about selling newspapers, not about preventing people from knowing that the people that run the world use rigid moralistic laws to justify oppressing their subjects, while they practice brutal amorality?

I know when I first heard about the report by Estes I was very curious to know what kinds of illicit trading are going on in my hometown. I guess I am just perverted that way; much different than all of the other people with whom I share my world. No one else but me and my morbid fascination with depravity want to know about systematic heinous crime. Every normal person just wants to know about certain very particular cults-of-personality and how crime is always committed by the lunatic fringe element, the lone gunman. I need to get a life.

8/18/2007 11:59:00 PM  
Blogger Tin Mole Man said...

Sometimes I wish I knew you people a little better, that way, when you said something that I couldn't argue with, I could just say something like, "yeah, well at least I don't put chemicals into my body," or "at least I'm not addicted to chemicals."

But then, even in that case, you could come back and say, "Yes you are. You eat food and that IS a chemical. There are also mind altering substances IN the food we eat nowadays, and people, including you, are addicted to them. In fact, if you tell them about it, they get very angry, kind of a like a drug addict who is in denial."

Then I would say, "Yeah but eating food isn't immoral."

Then you could say, "Yeah but feeding it to kids is, and feeding it to MY kids is a class AAA felony."

Then I could say, "Yeah, but since the Harrison Act, anyone who puts substances into their bodies are not victims of the modern world's lack of capacity for certain personality types, they are immoral scumbags who should be exterminated. I mean, just because something wasn't a crime at all for millions of years doesn't mean that overnight it shouldn't be akin to raping babies and grifting old ladies, both of which pale in comparison to drug use. In a century that has been marked by humanity's coming to its senses on many accounts, one can only expect that benign, victimless actions such as drug use should warrant spending large fractions of your life in prison. Plus, druggies are just gross and I am clean inside and out. I am pure and good and righteous."

Then you would say, "Oh, so you think you're the Messiah, eh? You are crazy and have many delusions about the sanctity of your fucking cheesy House of Cards law enforcement infrastructure. I mean, just look at and then tell me how sanctified and pure our justice system is. There have been studies that suggest that there are more police officers with drug habbits than average citizens, relative to poplulations. When considering alcohol, it's even worse. Police corruption, according to an ex-chief by the name of McNamara, is endemic and goes beyond the few rotten apple scenario. He says its time to uproot the whole apple tree."

Then I would say, "Oh, yeah, just because some police cheif who got fired and has some axe to grind says that there are a few bad precincts; just because some studies say there is some GIANT CONSPIRACY nation wide and that police, in an age when technology has enabled huge gains in covert stalking of citizens, would actually take advantage of immunity if they could. Pstyeah, right."

Then you could say, "Dude, I give up. You are obviously not concerned with logic and reason. You probably love nogo mixon, that is, you find his message totally inspirational, missing completely the facetiousness."

8/19/2007 07:01:00 AM  
Blogger Shrubageddon said...

I know when I first heard about the report by Estes I was very curious to know what kinds of illicit trading are going on in my hometown. I guess I am just perverted that way; much different than all of the other people with whom I share my world. No one else but me and my morbid fascination with depravity want to know about systematic heinous crime. Every normal person just wants to know about certain very particular cults-of-personality and how crime is always committed by the lunatic fringe element, the lone gunman. I need to get a life.

I would say you are morally depraved if you spend the greater part of your life hunting for and pouring over such material, whether it be happening in your own hometown, or not, and you never do a damn thing about any of it except keep reading it and talking about it smugly on the internet. You're just another audience member at that point, just as the NY Times audience member to the more sanitized Michael Jackson version.

Your moral depravity will be mitigated when you decide to discontinue being an addicted audience. If these Bastards didn't want you to know this wouldn't know this shit. The fact that you do know this shit means "they" wanted you to know....and "they" have you begging for more. Either way....whether you get the more sordid story, or the sanitized, less innocuous coventional version, you are a tool. When do you stop being a tool? That's the part that is always overlooked in these discussions....and, IMHO, the reason it is overlooked is because we're talking about ending your addiction and/or elimiating the source of that addiction....and we can't have that, now, can we?

8/19/2007 08:46:00 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

IC said:

"And now for something completely...similar. Mark, did you know that Kepler was also one of the many who maintained a belief in the hollow earth theory?"

No, I didn't know that. Though the interesting point is that why would such a mathematically obsessive guy believe it? Perhaps he saw the movie adaptation of Jules Verne though...:-)

Much of the people that '1800s scientists' looked back to were not 'empirical dead matter' in their worldview.

Just looking at the occult motivations of the only two people who literally were responsible for celestial mechanics is quite reeling: Kepler and Newton.

It gets back to the harmonics issues.

Particularly for what inspired Kepler to spend his whole life on applying mathematics to physics (which was NOT done in his day) was his desire (after some sort of inspirational idea) to see if he could justify fitting various regular polyhedra in nested spheres , and comparing the distances of the planets between each other to that mental model:

"Kepler lived in an era when there was no clear distinction between astronomy and astrology, but there was a strong division between astronomy (a branch of mathematics within the liberal arts) and physics (a branch of the more prestigious discipline of natural philosophy)."

Though all that, he actually started to find some interesting harmonic issues in planetary fast and slow speeds in their orbits (which was not even known before him) which are intriguing in their math/harmonic relationships.

Newton would of course take that Kepler observation about fast and slow 'fall speeds' of the planets, and think of it as just a larger view of what he could observe about gravitation on earth himself with smaller objects wedded as one model of gravitation.

Newton is estimated to have spent more on occult things than astronomy

Increasingly, like many did, the appeal of 'mathematical divinity' was seen as a means to control the anti-religious enthusiasm with more 'rationed arguments for the divine'.

However, by the 1800s, instead it was used as providing arguments for being without it! Thus ironically Kepler and Newton ended up contributing to the very thing that both disliked a mechanistic atheistic world view of physical matter and relations.

On Kepler and harmonics:

During his career, Kepler was a mathematics teacher at a seminary school in Graz, Austria, an assistant to astronomer Tycho Brahe, the court mathematician to Emperor Rudolf II,....

Kepler's first major astronomical work, Mysterium Cosmographicum (The Cosmographic Mystery), was the first published defense of the Copernican system. Kepler claimed to have had an epiphany on July 19, 1595, while teaching in Graz, demonstrating the periodic conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter in the zodiac; he [thought-modeled the following:] realized that regular polygons bound one inscribed and one circumscribed circle at definite ratios, which, he reasoned, might be the geometrical basis of the universe [of nested spheres of the planets].

After [repeated attempts to find this in the actual astrologer/alchemist Brahe data which he was not going to get his hands on, then Brahe conveniently died

Little inset:

[Only] from 1600 until his death in 1601, Tycho Brahe was assisted by Johannes Kepler, who would later use Tycho's astronomical information to develop his own theories of astronomy....

Tycho died on October 24, 1601, eleven days after suddenly becoming very ill during a banquet. He was ill for eleven days, and toward the end of his illness he is said to have told Kepler "Ne frustra vixisse videar!", "Let me not seem to have lived in vain”.[4] [5] For hundreds of years, the general belief was that he had strained his bladder [which was a story presumably told by Kepler...].

It had been said that to leave the banquet before it concluded would be the height of bad manners, and so he remained, and that his bladder, stretched to its limit, developed an infection which he later died of. This theory was supported by Kepler's first-hand account. [and served as a great alibi, because Kepler would late steal Brahe's data]

Recent investigations have suggested that Tycho did not die from urinary problems but instead from mercury poisoning [and that is not something that you typically would get served at a banquet]: extremely toxic levels of it have been found in his hair and hair-roots. Tycho may have poisoned himself by imbibing some medicine containing unintentional mercuric chloride impurities, or may have been poisoned.[6] According to a 2005 book by Joshua and Anne-Lee Gilder, there is substantial circumstantial evidence that Kepler murdered Brahe; they argue that Kepler had the means, motive, and opportunity, and stole Tycho's data on his death.[7] According to the Gilders, they find it "unlikely"[7] Tycho could have poisoned himself since he was an alchemist known to be familiar with the toxicity of different mercury compounds.

Back to Kepler:

Now armed with Brahe's data charts, that he thought might verify the literal secrets of the universe, though still failing to find a unique arrangement of polygons that fit known astronomical observations (even with extra planets added to the system), Kepler began experimenting with 3-dimensional polyhedra.

He found that each of the five Platonic solids could be uniquely inscribed and circumscribed by spherical orbs; nesting these solids, each encased in a sphere, within one another would produce six layers, corresponding to the six known planets—Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. By ordering the solids correctly—octahedron, icosahedron, dodecahedron, tetrahedron, cube—Kepler found that the spheres could be placed at intervals corresponding (within the accuracy limits of available astronomical observations) to the relative sizes of each planet’s path, assuming the planets circle the Sun.

Kepler also found a formula relating the size of each planet’s orb to the length of its orbital period: from inner to outer planets, the ratio of increase in orbital period is twice the difference in orb radius.

However, Kepler later rejected this formula, because it was not precise enough.[13]

As he indicated in the title, Kepler thought he had revealed God’s geometrical plan for the universe.

Much of Kepler’s enthusiasm for the Copernican system stemmed from his theological convictions about the connection between the physical and the spiritual....


Kepler tried, but was unable, to persuade Tycho to adopt the heliocentric model of the solar system. Tycho believed in a modified geocentric model known as the Tychonic system, for the same reasons that he argued that the supernova of 1572 was not near the Earth. He argued that if the Earth were in motion, then nearby stars should appear to shift their positions with respect to background stars. In fact, this effect of parallax does exist; but it could not be observed with the naked eye, or even with the telescopes of the next two hundred years, because even the nearest stars are much more distant than most astronomers of the time believed possible. The Tychonic system is very similar to the Copernican one, except that it has a static earth instead of a static sun. [Tycho's 'real job' was forecasting astrological charts: "Because Tycho disagreed with Christian IV, the new king of his country, he left Hven in 1597 and moved to Prague in 1599. Sponsored by Rudolf II, the Holy Roman Emperor, he built a new observatory in a castle in Benátky nad Jizerou, 50 km from Prague, and he worked there for one year. The emperor then had him move back to Prague, where he stayed until his death. Besides the emperor himself, he was also financially supported by several nobles, including Oldrich Desiderius Pruskowsky von Pruskow, to whom he dedicated his famous volume, the "Mechanica." In return for their support, Tycho's duties included preparing astrological charts and predictions for his patrons on events such as births, weather forecasting, and providing astrological interpretations of significant astronomical events such as the comet of 1577 and the supernova of 1572."


Though the details would be modified in light of his later work, Kepler never relinquished the Platonist polyhedral-spherist cosmology of Mysterium Cosmographicum. His subsequent main astronomical works were in some sense only further developments of it, concerned with finding more precise inner and outer dimensions for the spheres by calculating the eccentricities of the planetary orbits within it [soon moving into ellipses instead which fitted better--and the data about the speeds of the the planet's 'falling faster' in their orbits as they neared the larger Sun, would fascinate equally mathamatical-Christian-occult Newton, a generation or two later].

In 1621 Kepler published an expanded second edition of Mysterium [this was AFTER his completion of his more famous 1619 work, showing that they were still being parallel projects], half as long again as the first, detailing in footnotes the corrections and improvements he had achieved in the 25 years since its first publication.

His more famous work:

"Harmonices Mundi (Latin: The Harmony of the Worlds, 1619) [spent with 19 years access to Brahe's detailed planetery observations] is a [later] book by Johannes Kepler [still working on his Mysterium Cosmographicum ideas from the 1590s]

In the 1619 work Kepler investigates harmony and congruence in [mathematical 'Mysterium' ideas of the] geometrical forms [compared ot the] physical [Brahe data of the] phenomena. The final section of the work relates his discovery of the so-called "Third Law" of planetary motion.

Kepler divides The Harmony of the World into five long chapters: the first is on regular polygons [same as from 1595 ideas before he associated with Brahe in 1600-1]; the second is on the congruence of figures; the third is on the origin of harmonic proportions in music; the fourth on is on harmonic configurations in astrology; and the fifth on the harmony of the motions of the planets.

While medieval philosophers spoke metaphorically of the "music of the spheres," Kepler discovered actual, albeit silent, harmonies in planetary motion. He found that the difference between the maximum and minimum angular speeds of planet on its orbit approximates a harmonic proportion.

For instance, the maximum angular speed of the Earth as measured from the Sun varies by a semitone (a ratio of 16:15), from mi to fa, between aphelion and perihelion.

Venus only varies by a tiny 25:24 interval (called a diesis in musical terms).

Kepler explains the reason for the Earth's small harmonic range:

"The Earth sings Mi, Fa, Mi: you may infer even from the syllables that in this our home misery and famine hold sway."

At very rare intervals all of the planets would sing together in 'perfect concord': Kepler proposed that this may have happened only once in history, perhaps at the time of creation.

Kepler also discovers that all but one of the ratios of the maximum and minimum speeds of planets on neighboring orbits approximate musical harmonies within a margin of error of less than a diesis (a 25:24 interval). The orbits of Mars and Jupiter produce the one exception to this rule, creating the unharmonic ratio of 18:19. In fact, the cause of Kepler's dissonance might be explained by the fact that the asteroid belt separates those two planetary orbits, as discovered in 1801, 150 years after Kepler's death.

[hence dropping circles for ellipses; and from these ellipses and changes in speed of falls, Newton would look into approximating gravitational motions literally everywhere.]

Kepler lived in an era when there was no clear distinction between astronomy and astrology, but there was a strong division between astronomy (a branch of mathematics).

Newton, after Kepler

"Newton's scientific work may have been of lesser personal importance to him, as he placed emphasis on rediscovering the occult wisdom of the ancients. In this sense, some have commented that the common reference to the "Newtonian Worldview" as being purely mechanistic is somewhat misguided.

John Maynard Keynes, for example, opined in 1942 after purchasing and studying Newton's alchemical works that "Newton was not the first of the age of reason, he was the last of the magicians."

Newtons occult studies of alchemy were often mathematical in nature.

[His ideas of gravity were to minds then, an occult issue and quite embarrassing, since it was a 'force acting on objects without touching'. Other ideas of Newton:]

His reasoning expects that since the measures of the Bible are based on the math and science of the Egyptians, their techniques would generally involve the use of unit fractions.


Some practices of alchemy were banned in England during Newton's lifetime, perhaps a result of frequent and unscrupulous practitioners who would often promise wealthy benefactors unrealistic results in an attempt to swindle money. The English Crown, also fearing the potential devaluation of gold, should The Philosopher's Stone actually be discovered, made the consequences for such pursuits extremely severe. In some cases the punishment for unsanctioned alchemy would include the public hanging of an offender on a gilded scaffold while adorned with tinsel and other accoutrements. It was for this reason, and the potential scrutiny that he feared from his peers within the scientific community, that Newton may have deliberately left his work on these subjects unpublished.


In 1936 a collection of Issac Newton's unpublished works were auctioned by Sotheby's auction house. This material consisted of three hundred twenty-nine lots of Newton's manuscripts, of which over a third were filled with content that appeared to be alchemical in nature.

At the time of Newton's death this material was considered "unfit to publish" by Newton's estate and consequently fell into obscurity until their somewhat sensational reemergence in 1936.[5] Many of these documents were purchased directly by John Maynard Keynes during the auction, many of those that were purchased by others would also later enter Keynes collection as he purchased them in the following years before his death.

Although a large amount of the auctioned material was purchased by Keynes, a majority of it was actually purchased by the eccentric document collector Abraham Yahuda, and eventually would come to be stored in the Jewish National and University Library in Jerusalem, where it still resides today.

People like Kepler (truly manic astrologist) and Newton (who spent most his life on alchemy and attempting to find the exact dimensions of Solomon's Temple, worked on 'occult gravitational forces.'

And Kepler loved harmonics, and had a harmonic theory of the planets speed changes in orbit, making that "Keplers Orrery" music applet pretty accurate:

Before Kepler, planets' paths were computed by combinations of the circular motions of the celestial orbs. After Kepler, astronomers shifted their attention from orbs to orbits—paths that could be represented mathematically as an ellipse. Kepler's laws also provided one of the foundations for Isaac Newton's theory of universal gravitation.


He showed that the motion of objects on Earth and of celestial bodies are governed by the same set of natural laws by demonstrating the consistency between Kepler's [separate] laws of planetary motion and his ["local Earth"] theory of gravitation...

In the above, I wanted to draw out the harmonic/music issue that is typically lost in talking about Kepler. It's a major part of what he wrote about and which kept him 'at it' for decades.

Most of these people were high elites as well. Working for royalty, Brahe is supposed to be worth a full 1% of all the wealth of Denmark when he lived there, throwing lavish parties all the while:

"Tycho was said to own one percent of the entire wealth of Denmark at one point in the 1580s and he often held large social gatherings in his castle. He kept a dwarf named Jepp (whom Tycho believed was clairvoyant) as a court jester who sat under the table during dinner."

Kepler himself was (impoverished) nobility. Kepler's grandfather had been Lord Mayor of one of the rare 'free cities' in Europe:

"Weil der Stadt is a small town of somewhat less than 20,000 inhabitants, located in the Stuttgart Region of the German state of Baden-Württemberg. It is about 30 km west of the Stuttgart city center, and is often called "Gate to the Black Forest". Weil der Stadt became an Imperial Free City in the 13th century, but had existed for centuries before as an important trading place. It was completely destroyed during the 30-years' War but was subsequently rebuilt, and the centre is still dominated by buildings from this period. The city fortifications are still nearly intact.

The general region is a place in Europe that continued to figure in much later 'liberal revolutionary' politics by the 1800s by European standards:

Kepler was born on December 27, 1571, at the Imperial Free City of Weil der Stadt (now part of the Stuttgart Region in the German state of Baden-Württemberg, 30 km west of Stuttgart's center). His grandfather, Sebald Kepler, had been Lord Mayor of that town, but by the time Johannes was born, the Kepler family fortunes were in decline.

This was the area that a lot of religious dissent against the Roman Catholic Church ended up 'in cold storage' in the nearby Alps in Switzerland (like presumed Templar contributions to founding various Swiss canton's in the 1290s (just as they lost the Levant from 1291); or the later Vaudois located Waldensians just to the south of this isolated area of Germany, Baden-Württemberg.)

"Baden-Württemberg borders on Switzerland to the south, on France to the west, and on the German states of Rhineland-Palatinate (northwest), Hesse (north) and Bavaria (east). Its principal cities include Stuttgart, Mannheim, Karlsruhe, Freiburg, Heidelberg, Heilbronn, Ludwigsburg, Ulm, Tübingen, Pforzheim and Reutlingen.

The Rhine (Rhein) forms the western border as well as large portions of the southern border. The Black Forest (Schwarzwald), the main mountain range of the state, rises east of the Rhine valley. Baden-Württemberg shares both Lake Constance (Bodensee) and the foothills of the Alps with Switzerland. The Danube (Donau) river has its source in Baden-Württemberg near the town of Donaueschingen, in a place called Furtwangen in the Black Forest....In many areas of Baden-Wurttemberg, residents speak the distinctive dialects of Swabian (Schwäbisch) and 'Badisch'/Allemanic, which both are known for being almost unintelligible to northern Germans....


This is a rather interesting book about dismissing the whole concept of a 'scientific revolution' or at least its artificial creation long after the fact in selective 'materialist canon' assembly by the more revolutionary members of the secular Enlightenment of the mid to late 1700s onward.

by the mid 1750s, the 'scientific revolution' canon started to be created though the people and things chosen were very selective--hardly representative of the people themselves, who were hardly different from astronomical, occult, Rosicrucian, alchemical, astrologist, Cabalist, Pythagorean people of their era.

Thinking of it that way (i.e., the 'scientific revolution' as an artificial construct made up to hide the fact of far more 'questionable' occult lives of the major people involved) can go pretty well with explaining the ENDURING occult issues in many high scientific and geomantic things in European history, particularly political elites.

Rethinking the Scientific Revolution (2000) where you can get the gist of it from's free pages of the introduction.

(I think it was only Toynbee that invented the neutered empiricism phrase "scientific revolution anyway.

And Toynbee's heritage is with some interesting parapolitical relations --directly to the leadership of the "NWO of the WWI era" through his father-in-law, Gilbert Murray. This probably explains why Toynbee (so close to H. G. Wells) was so primed by major U.S. (Skull and Bones) founded journals like Time Magazine.

'Food-links' for thought there, particularly Gilbert Murray. And Murray was son-in-law to the Howards, and his wife upon her fathers death, inherited Castle Howard (<--- see images, that has some quite overt masonic architecture like huge cap-less pyramids under which you drive into the grounds).

The Castle Howard was built by:

Charles Howard, 3rd Earl of Carlisle PC (c.1669 – 1 May 1738) was a British statesman who was made a Privy Counsellor in 1701. He served as First Lord of the Treasury from 1701 to 1702, and again from 23 May to 10 October of 1715. A residence he commissioned, Castle Howard, designed by Sir John Vanbrugh and located in Yorkshire, England, is still occupied by his descendants. [The opening foyer looks like an intentional copy of St. Peters in Rome to me.]

I believe that Castle Howard's builder was the first (overt) Grandmaster of York Rite Masonry by the early 1700s, when it came out in competition with the London lodges based usurpation after 1715 when, seemingly unauthorized, the London lodges started to move from a secret society to a "a public society with secrets" as they like to say now. This made the York based and other versions so mad they came out as well in competition with the usurpation, and most of the 1700s was this non-brotherly competition challenging each other's legitimacy in England.

I can't remember where I read about the builder of Castle Howard as the first more overt York Rite Grandmaster (It obviously wasn't the web, or if it was, it's gone now.)

And an ancestor of his was:

Charles Howard, 2nd Baron of Effingham (1536-1624) Of the English house of Howard, he was also the 1st Earl of Nottingham. Ambassador to France in 1559; lord chamberlain from 1574-85, and as lord high admiral from 1585-1618, he held the chief command against the Spanish Armada in 1588, which he defeated. He was the commissioner for the trial of Mary, Queen of Scots in 1586. According to William Preston, q.v., he was grand master of England from 1579-88.

And Castle Howard has a Stanley Kubrick link: where he filmed some parts of the Barry Lyndon film. He anachronistically filmed Barry Lyndon's 1750s settings with special NASA space program Zeiss lenses, and it likely would have been impossible to do that film without these NASA lenses. Full circle.

8/19/2007 12:57:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

And thanks Jeff for the two links on the Casimir effect:

New physics?

The Casimir effect could also play a role in accurate force measurements between the nanometre and micrometre scales. Newton's inverse-square law of gravitation has been tested many times at macroscopic distances by observing the motion of planets.

But no-one has so far managed to verify the law at micron length scales with any great precision.

Such tests are important because many theoretical models that attempt to unify the four [supposed only four?] fundamental forces of nature [electromagnetism, strong, weak, and gravity--what about the 'fifth force' or 'wierd data' of Sheldrake's 'communication at a distance' instantaneously that is a small effect?] predict the existence of previously undiscovered forces that would act at such scales.

Any deviation between experiment and theory could hint at the existence of new forces. But all is not lost even if both values agree: the measurements would then put new limits on existing theories.

Jens Gundlach and colleagues at Washington, for example, have used a torsion pendulum to determine the gravitational force between two test masses separated by distances from 10 mm down to 220 µm. Their measurements confirmed that Newtonian gravitation operates in this regime but that the Casimir force dominates at shorter distances. Meanwhile Joshua Long, John Price and colleagues at the University of Colorado - together with Ephraim Fischbach and co-workers from Purdue University - are trying to eliminate the Casimir effect altogether from sub-millimetre tests of gravitation by carefully selecting the materials used in the experiment.

And your other link, Jeff, doesn't really explain how those Scottish researcher's 'lens' equipment can remove a physical force? What is it focusing to cancel it out, supposedly? Electrics? That article doesn't say how this 'lens' works.

8/19/2007 01:32:00 PM  
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8/19/2007 02:31:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

What a bunch of crap. Twenty four hours and counting to NWO and there we are twisting and turning about optics three centuries old. Good luck with that.

8/19/2007 02:57:00 PM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

I just wanted to say thank you
for your last post. I have never
really been that interested in my
families early history having only
looked into it in a fairly casual
way, but your post has given me
some very solid info to follow up
on. If your wondering what the hell
I'm talking about perhaps I should
tell you that my last name is Howard.
Thanks again.

I very much agree with you that
perhaps we ( and I include myself
in that "we") spend more time here
talking about what should be done
as opposed to going out and doing
it. That being the case, I started
looking around the web for groups
that are ready to take serious
action if Der Fuehrer is stupid
enough to stage some sort of "false
flag" event as a pretext to Martial
Law. What I found was quite
astounding. There is one group
- I wont mention them by name-
that claims to have a membership
of one million ex-military/law
enforcement etc. who will descend
on Wash. DC at "their time of
choosing" to, as they put it,
"clean house". In fact many of their members are quite frustrated
that they haven't acted already,
considering the magnitude of the
crimes perpetrated on the American
public by the Bush/Cheney Junta.
The main reason given for not acting until this point is that they are recruiting 500 to a 1000
new members every day and are
biding their time and building
their base until they feel they
can wait no longer.
I find it curious that Karl Rove is
bailing out of the administration.
He's been with Bush for over
thirty years and knows where all the bodies are buried. According
to John McLaughlin, staffers have
been told that if your not willing
to stay for the duration of Bush's
term (the next 18 months) then its
time to pack your bags and leave.
So...What is coming down the pike
in the next 18 months that scared
Karl Rove so much that he decided
to jump ship? Admittedly, Rove
is a doughy panty waist/closet case
("Has anyone seen Jeff Gannon? I
could really use a rub!") so perhaps this is a sign that things
are about to get rough...

8/19/2007 03:16:00 PM  
Blogger Nogo Mixon said...

New Miracle Product: Protect Yourself Against

Martial Law and Muslim Maniacs

at the same time!

A MIRACLE material for the 21st century could protect your home against bomb blasts, mop up oil spillages and even help man to fly to Mars.

, one of the world’s lightest solids, can withstand a direct blast of 1kg of dynamite and protect against heat from a blowtorch at more than 1,300C.

Scientists are working to discover new applications for the substance, ranging from the next generation of tennis rackets to super-insulated space suits for a manned mission to Mars.

It is expected to rank alongside wonder products from previous generations such as Bakelite in the 1930s, carbon fibre in the 1980s and silicone in the 1990s. Mercouri Kanatzidis, a chemistry professor at Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois, said: “It is an amazing material. It has the lowest density of any product known to man, yet at the same time it can do so much. I can see aerogel being used for everything from filtering polluted water to insulating against extreme temperatures and even for jewellery.”

Aerogel is nicknamed “frozen smoke” and is made by extracting water from a silica gel, then replacing it with gas such as carbon dioxide. The result is a substance that is capable of insulating against extreme temperatures and of absorbing pollutants such as crude oil.

It was invented by an American chemist for a bet in 1931, but early versions were so brittle and costly that it was largely consigned to laboratories. It was not until a decade ago that Nasa started taking an interest in the substance and putting it to a more practical use.

In 1999 the space agency fitted its Stardust space probe with a mitt packed full of aerogel to catch the dust from a comet’s tail. It returned with a rich collection of samples last year.

In 2002 Aspen Aerogel, a company created by Nasa, produced a stronger and more flexible version of the gel. It is now being used to develop an insulated lining in space suits for the first manned mission to Mars, scheduled for 2018.

Mark Krajewski, a senior scientist at the company, believes that an 18mm layer of aerogel will be sufficient to protect astronauts from temperatures as low as -130C. “It is the greatest insulator we’ve ever seen,” he said.

Aerogel is also being tested for future bombproof housing and armour for military vehicles. In the laboratory, a metal plate coated in 6mm of aerogel was left almost unscathed by a direct dynamite blast.

It also has green credentials. Aerogel is described by scientists as the “ultimate sponge”, with millions of tiny pores on its surface making it ideal for absorbing pollutants in water.

Kanatzidis has created a new version of aerogel designed to mop up lead and mercury from water. Other versions are designed to absorb oil spills.

He is optimistic that it could be used to deal with environmental catastrophes such as the Sea Empress spillage in 1996, when 72,000 tons of crude oil were released off the coast of Milford Haven in Pembrokeshire.

Aerogel is also being used for everyday applications. Dunlop, the sports equipment company, has developed a range of squash and tennis rackets strengthened with aerogel, which are said to deliver more power.

Earlier this year Bob Stoker, 66, from Nottingham, became the first Briton to have his property insulated with aerogel. “The heating has improved significantly. I turned the thermostat down five degrees. It’s been a remarkable transformation,” he said.

Mountain climbers are also converts. Last year Anne Parmenter, a British mountaineer, climbed Everest using boots that had aerogel insoles, as well as sleeping bags padded with the material. She said at the time: “The only problem I had was that my feet were too hot, which is a great problem to have as a mountaineer.”

However, it has failed to convince the fashion world. Hugo Boss created a line of winter jackets out of the material but had to withdraw them after complaints that they were too hot.

Although aerogel is classed as a solid, 99% of the substance is made up of gas, which gives it a cloudy appearance.

Scientists say that because it has so many millions of pores and ridges, if one cubic centimetre of aerogel were unravelled it would fill an area the size of a football field.

Its nano-sized pores can not only collect pollutants like a sponge but they also act as air pockets.

Researchers believe that some versions of aerogel which are made from platinum can be used to speed up the production of hydrogen. As a result, aerogel can be used to make hydrogen-based fuels.

Does anyone need further evidence that there is, in fact a God, and that he/she/it is bound and determined to defeat all the forces of evil, including both the muslim maniacs and the martial law givers and all of their muslim maniac- and martial law- death loving ways?

8/19/2007 05:02:00 PM  
Blogger Great Galactic Ghoul said...

If you actually read the scholarly research on Kepler's harmonics he still placed GEOMETRY over harmonics. Newtown did the same -- gravity comes from stretching a string with four times the weight to get twice the frequency. This discovery was published in the Philosophical Trans. of the Royal Society of London in 1960, as Professor James Bunn details.

But "orthodox" Pythagoreans don't rely on geometry or a visual model rather instead true Pythagorean harmonics relies on only listening to formless awareness.

This is why Kepler, Newton, and the other creators of modern science were actually Freemasons, as per Robert Lomas' book: Freemasonry and the Birth of Modern Science.

The same goes with all these latest discoveries. For example, author of "High Priest, Quantum Genes," Michael Haye's recent essay on Alien DNA cites Richard Dawkins' research on crystals, symmetry and organic life.

The goal of nanotechnology, as Dawkins' true religion, is to make A.I. self-organizing life through right-hand directed silica merged with bucky-nano-prions.

Hence all of Dawkins' Stalkins against the "creationists" is really just a projection of his own true Freemasonic callings.

8/19/2007 05:46:00 PM  
Blogger Nogo Mixon said...

Nature already beat Dawkins, the masons, the Mixons, and the Dixons to it, to wit:

That life should be carbon-based is a pretty dated assumption. These days, the zeitgeist is all about sustained organization and patterns of energy flow. Really, should aliens be organic just because we are?

So cast aside the blinders of earth-based life, and open your mind to this:

... an international team has discovered that under the right conditions, particles of inorganic dust can become organised into helical structures. These structures can then interact with each other in ways that are usually associated with organic compounds and life itself.

The right conditions are found in a plasma -- that "fourth state of matter beyond solid, liquid and gas, in which electrons are torn from atoms leaving behind a miasma of charged particles."

In a computer model of inorganic particles in plasma, researchers from the Russian Academy of Science, the University of Sydney and the Max-Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics watched plasma-state inorganic dust organize itself, twisting into strands that look and act a bit like DNA:

They can, for instance, divide, or bifurcate, to form two copies of the original structure. These new structures can also interact to induce changes in their neighbours and they can even evolve into yet more structures as less stable ones break down, leaving behind only the fittest structures in the plasma. [...]

"These complex, self-organized plasma structures exhibit all the necessary properties to qualify them as candidates for inorganic living matter," says Tsytovich, "they are autonomous, they reproduce and they evolve."

Where are plasma-friendly conditions found? In space ... and on earth, where lightning strikes. It's a plausible mechanism for the origin of terrestrial life.

....this from Space Dust: It's Alive and It's.....Us

August 17, 2007

So that about completes the Ouroboric tail chasing and chomping....we are it and it is us and it's all already been done before, now, and after.

Now if those muslim maniacs would just give up their death-loving ways then I could get back to my favorite T.V. show: Martial Law and Order

8/19/2007 07:42:00 PM  
Blogger Great Galactic Ghoul said...

Nogo Mixon -- the point is that "earth-based life" as you refer to is being annhilated by the very type of "computer-based" models described by this latest experiment.

Science destroys ecology and replaces ecology with silica-based life. Therefore the "discovery" of Natural silica-based life is part of the theory to create computer-based silica-life on Earth.

Meanwhile the actual Life always already on Earth, carbon-based left-hand asymmetric molecules, is conveniently destroyed.

It's a smooth slight of hand ain't it?

8/19/2007 07:53:00 PM  
Blogger Belliosto said...

Dr. Bombay before the April 19, 1993 murders of the Branch Davidians at Waco, Texas militia groups were becoming popular in the U.S. Michigan allegedly had tens of thousands of members. These groups were for the common man and served as a buffer between gov't and people. They watched with horror the goings on at Waco and did not do anything about it. As a result of the massacre at Waco the militia groups eventually folded because they were blamed for the Oklahoma City bombing. This vindication of the Feds murdering innocents at Waco is complete. No militia group did Oklahoma clearly. So the Feds always seem to intelligently find ways to accomplish their goals time and time again.

If the solution to a problem has to do with honest work and involvement very few people involve themselves. If dishonest arrogance is the key element to an alleged solution, you will get more people involved with it. Most people will back up a honest solution to a problem in principle. Most people will. But very few will directly involve themselves with the solution. More people involve themselves with an alleged solution if it has to do with pride issues not so much so if it has to do with any hands on work that must be done. So I do not believe that millions of men are going to protest in the District of Columbia unless the Feds want them to. Meaning that kind of protest has the Feds directing it somehow.

8/19/2007 08:52:00 PM  
Blogger et in Arcadia ego Eve said...

Calling Dr. Bombay! Dr. Bombay! Emergency! Come right away!

Doctor, Samantha here.....I need to wash off that comment you made about my friend JD with respect to Karl Rove. May I please refer you to this post:

Dr. you ever disaparate to the laughter of your own witticisms? I do see The Wit in you.

8/19/2007 09:03:00 PM  
Blogger Tin Mole Man said...

Dr. Bombay and Bellisto,

Violence is not the answer. It is the most primitive way to solve our problems.

I humbly concede to Shrubageddon, although I am not quite sure why he took such exception to my post. I realize the futility of internet exposure of trillion dollar lies, but sometimes I feel the need to run stuff up the flagpole to see he burns the flag. Then I know who is insane. Then I have a barometric benchmark of how to plan my attack at dismantling trillion dollar misinformation campaigns that make the citizens of nations feel like they are all criminals and that the people that run things are all indignant moralists. Sometimes the zeitgeist gets a shot in the arm to see that it is dignified and justified to fight back, but only when it is rid of the guilt baggage.

8/19/2007 09:25:00 PM  
Blogger Tin Mole Man said...

If these Bastards didn't want you to know this wouldn't know this shit.

True, true.

But I am not sure that highly priveleged, inaccessible documents like the ones from UPenn are necessarily something that the major press wanted the general public to be aware of. They generally realize that the non-reading general public doesn't know anything unless someone tells them. Therefore they are comfortable that scholarly research papers are only a threat if CNN covers them, which they did--once. But they never did again. However, when the Catholic Church is involved, look out.

It is true I heard about both of these cases from those "bastards." But the UPenn paper was not covered but once in the press. Go to the link, copy and paste the title of the paper, and then google it. Then google "Catholic Church". I guarantee you will find on the first page of the Catholic Church search, many, many references to sex abuse cases. In the case of the UPenn paper, not much at all...albeit a much more profoundly widely encompassing issue IMHO.

Tell me Shrubageddon, how is it that you glean your information? Divine intuition? Other worldly omnipresence? Or are you subject to the same sources as the rest of us? Do you know something I don't, or do you just completely and purely conscientiously object to reading anything or opening your eyes in observance of your strict rule to not be their tool? If so, why are you here? Why don't you join some ascetic monastary and renounce the illusion that is this world?

BTW, the source of my addiction is self-preservation. Period.

8/19/2007 09:48:00 PM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

There are many theories
regarding the Oklahoma City bombing,
but there is no doubt that the
Feds tried to pin it on shadowy
"militia" groups. I think the bombing
was carried out precisely to
discredit the militia "movement"
if you will,as the Government see's
them as a direct challenge to their
authority. Some of the groups are
made up largely of Right Wing
extremist's. But there seems to be
a growing trend of members who's
ideology comes second to their fear
that we are being stripped of our
basic civil liberties and they
are quite serious about putting
a stop to it. Some of these groups
have been infiltrated and
compromised, but most are very
aware that they are being closely
monitored and take appropriate
measures to maintain security.

Tin Mole Man,
You said that violence
is not the answer, and I agree with
that to a point. However, when you
are dealing with people who
themselves have no respect for the
lives of others and would not
hesitate for a minute to take your
life to further there own twisted
ambitions.. what choice are you left with?

"Those who do not allow for a
peaceful revolution will surely
invite a violent one".

et in Arcadia ego Eve,
I know that was a cheap
shot at Jeff Gannon, but I have
always wondered which bed he was sleeping in when, according to the
Secret Service, he was staying
overnight at the White House?
Was Karl "working late" those
nights as well? I tried to pull
up the link that you left in your
post, but I couldn't seem to find
it. Perhaps you could tell me what it was.

8/20/2007 03:31:00 AM  
Blogger wwwdotnet said...

Dr. bombay, others, and Jeff if you could give your thoughts on this......

At the risk of sounding paranoid...jeez, i guess we are past that point...what is the general conscensus here of talking about "action". Dr. Bombay mentioned this group with thousands of members (would be interested in a link of somekind), and violence being something that sometimes must be used, as you said "what choice are you left with?"...I do not agree or disagree with this, but what i am asking instead is should there be some care in encouraging others to start mentioning, within this blog, that they agree in violence against our government? there was a law passed (anyone with the link much appreciated) recently (?) allowing Bush to take away property of people harming the progress toward a free Iraq (sounds damned funny I know). Basically Jeff, do you know what the "rules" are in talking about action against a the government, and where the line is crossed for them to shut down a blog? I am pretty new to RI, so apologies for if this has already been discussed....on a side note, you all have such beautiful eyes x

8/20/2007 06:43:00 AM  
Blogger Shrubageddon said...

Perhaps I should clarify my intent. When I said it's time to do something about it, I didn't mean to imply violence. Bananas, anyone? For now on, underwear must be worn on the outside. Woody Allen made that point quite clear.

Tin, I have gleaned my knowledge from the same sources you have, as well as life experience.....but the knowledge has been what's the point in bathing in it, and hanging on it, if you do nothing to change the outcome? I'm ready to do something about it....but me alone won't make a difference. It will take many people acting in Unison.

Let's start by not cooperating with the Plutocracy. That can take so many forms that it requires little imagination.....but it has to be the first step. We need to start cooperating with each other rather than competing agaist each other, as the Plutocracy would have it. I'm ready and willing to make the effort, but I need everyone else to do so, as well, and it needs to be a consistent, focused effort versus fragmented, disparate efforts.

I suggested starting a Private Equity Fund with the purpose of shutting down Corporate America and our Pay For Political Power System as its ultimate goal......a metaphorical vaccine that uses saliva of the dog that bit you to kill the dog once and for all. There were no takers...only naysayers. No violence involved in what I proposed, but the changes that could be made could be awesome....and we could use their apparatus to defeat their system of financial feudalism.

8/20/2007 09:22:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

There is a peaceful way to achieve the goal of truth, freedom, liberty and happiness. The proles simply must make do with 10% of the wealth and resources of their labours and the PTB must continue to amass the rest into their coffers. Don't be alarmed that one percent of our population have 90% of the wealth. We shall just make do in exchange for our security and prosperity. Just put it in writing and expect violence should you dip your greedy fingers into the public's 10%.

8/20/2007 11:34:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Boys & Girls,


Okay, so the "What are we gonna do about it?" question is fair game, inevitable even...(long overdue?), but this talk of taking up arms is, I'm very sorry to say, playing right into somebody's plans. I know, I know, it's only fiction, but from that parallel universe, we have the recent masterpiece/master plan from well-known fascist sci-fi guy and all-around Hitler apologist, Orson Scott Card, called Empire.

Did I mention bestselling?

The story line, childishly simple and fiendishly clever at the same time revolved around a scenario much like the one you guys are talking about here. Lantern-jawed heroes fighting Mojo's islamofascists ultimately fail to protect Bush and Cheney from a devastating torpedo attack on the White House (there's water there somewhere, right?), the hardline Right steps in with Drastic Measures, the people finally rise up and say "Enough of this shit!" and storm the capital to take back their country, led by "reasonable" men in the military. Civil war ensues...which, it turns out, was the plan all along.

The reasonable men in the military were the ones who staged the terrorist incident, you see, because they were really closet liberals who couldn't have their way any other way in the Land of the Free.

Moral of the story? (Not Gruppenführer Card's, mine.) Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights...but don't be packin' no heat, 'cuz that's all the excuse they need to turn your indignation to their purposes. Civil disobedience is grand--when was the last time you went to a hemp rally and blew some sweet smoke in the face of a pig?--but the minute you whip out your sword, you're not writing the tune anymore.

The revolution is in the mind. That's why there's all this propaganda and disinformaton and Stepford press syndrome. If the real deal were known--not the whole sordid, foot-noted history, but just the central facts of manipulation and the ease with which autonomy could be granted the beleagured serfs--then the battle would have been won the only way it could be. Without firing a shot.

8/20/2007 11:38:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...


I've got a Kepler connection story for you...on the way.

8/20/2007 11:39:00 AM  
Blogger et in Arcadia ego Eve said...

Well darling Dr. Bombay, to undo the cheap shot on Jeff Gannon you really have to read the old ba-log (as Richard calls it) from end to beg-inning.

Only then will you see that Eve is the only one who “knows” anything about Jeff G.

8/20/2007 11:48:00 AM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

Just to clarify, I was
discussing groups that have NO
connection to this blog. I purposely
left out any names or links to them
as not to discredit what I consider
the finest and most thought provoking
blog on the net. I DO NOT condone
violence in any form. In fact I
have written a book about the effects
of mindless prejudice and racial
hatred that still permeates much
of society. That being said, its
pretty obvious that we are heading
towards some type of political
crises in the U.S. and we have to be ready for any eventuality.
And in case you missed it, Thought
Crime has arrived. Jose Padilla
(the so called "20th hijacker")
was convicted of nothing more
than "thinking" about committing
a crime. The two "witnesses" to
his crime? Both tortured in
overseas detention centers until
they "confessed".

"Democracy is two wolfs and a sheep
deciding what to have for lunch...
Liberty is a well armed sheep
contesting the vote..."

Benjamin Franklin

8/20/2007 01:19:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

When big bidness says that the fundamentals are good, that means the proles are working and not conspiring to tear down the system. Most people are happy to have a job as long as it doesn't mean 12 hour days and meets your daily bread. What words do we the working poor use to describe our end of the "fundamentals are good".

8/20/2007 01:37:00 PM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

et in Arcadia ego Eve,
I was finally able
to find that link. Your site is
absolutely charming. I shall return
often. How unfortunate that your
All American Secret Service agent
was not on duty when those "young
boys" were brought to the White
House to "visit" Poppy Bush..

8/20/2007 01:44:00 PM  
Blogger Great Galactic Ghoul said...

The secret of the Branch Davidian success was Koresh's really lame hard rock evangelical music.

Music is the unified source behind all revolutions.

The full-lotus is body music at its best and relies on being guided by the formless awareness that all of Nature exists within.

Do the Freemason military scientists control Nature? NO -- so the most practical thing is to sit in full-lotus. The next most practical is to take garlic, ginger, cayenne, milk thistle, cilantro and turmeric.

The whole concept that we can "do" anything is silly. Gurdjieff talks about LEARNING HOW THE MACHINE OF MAN OPERATES. Gurdjieff emphasizes that modern man does action based on outside superficial forces, whereas the "mechanical" man does action from the inner energy centers.

The man who frees himself from the machine first learns how the machine operates by practicing NONWESTERN harmonics -- the "microcosmic orbit" -- and then achieves unified will with the inner voice of the I-thought (i.e. resonates the kidney energy life force with the left-brain intentions).

To do this completely means to resonate far into outerspace. A good source who does this is Master Nan, Huai-chin, the Buddhist Chan yogi and Professor in Taiwan. Gurdjieff calls that a Level 7 man.

Actually the finally level is the same "absolute" that is the beginning and this is only achieved by the Jnana -- behind the heart-chakra -- all karma is ended and no cyclical resonance of spirit-force occurs. Sri Ramana Maharshi killed himself but still lived on as "formless awareness" embodied -- a zombie. There's only about 6 people on Earth at any one time who achieve Jnana state and most of the followers of Sri Ramana Maharshi do not even understand that only by killing himself did he achieve eternal liberation.

This is because people do not focus on the source of the I-thought, at Gurdjieff teaches. The inference of the I-thought creates asymmetric resonance which spirals back to the right-side of the heart for "cutting the knot" and achieving "eternal liberation" beyond all spacetime astral realms.
This asymmetric resonance is the same as the yin-yang harmonics or sattva-raja-tamas harmonics

8/20/2007 03:18:00 PM  
Blogger surrender said...


I am glad to see someone here really considering an action such as you have described. I know you suggested it before and some of us did not get it. I had a thought that if there really are “millions” who are aware of the constructs in place to take our lives away from us, then what actions could we take? Your idea of Private Equity Fund reflects a way to interrupt the Corporate Control in our lives.

Is there any other nation in the world being occupied by foreign forces announcing they were coming to liberate them from a cruel and ruthless leader , impose some illusion of democracy, then for years, 100’s of thousands of citizens are terrorized and killed, while the US military is “looking” for the enemy???? The enemy that my tax dollars are promoting the violation of basic human rights of citizens of the world, including Americans.

This could be the year I refuse to finance genocide of the spirit, lack of respect for any human life or other life for that matter, and the total corruption of the young, very young men who are engaging in the lowest form of human behavior. The humiliation and destruction of life and property is as un-American and un-patriotic as you can get. This could be the year that I refuse to pay taxes. The government and the military of the US is not representing me as a US citizen nor adhering to the Constitution or the Bill of Rights; MY RIGHTS!.

I am asking that any of my fellow citizens who are aware and awake (conscious) and experience the “Shock and Awe” of it all, the threat to ALL LIFE, are ready to take the same drastic, dramatic, and distracting actions such as those that have been heaved on all of us? When will we be ready to face what we are up against, and take the necessary action in mass, in numbers, in unity, There are infinite number of ways that are peaceful and we have the power to stand up and say no more to the killing in the name of God and Freedom, and REFUSE to be used to further this insane agenda any longer.

If 70% of he American people just “REFUSED" to participate in those actions that directly or indirectly support this insane war, destruction and death of the spirit, we might turn things around.
Refuse to watch the news or buy a news paper for 7 days or longer.
Refuse to eat GM or chemical foods; only Organic foods for a week.
Only buy the bare necessities for 7 days.
Put off any large purchases for a week.
Drive less or not at all if possible. Take a bike or walk short distances or use public transportation. It won’t hurt.
Refuse to buy anything made in China for 7 days (if possible).
Drink only water, refuse sodas or beef raised in a chopped down part of he rainforest.
Refuse to talk politics for one week.
Refuse to buy anything that you truly know is not good for you, food or otherwise.
Do not pay any bills or make any bank deposits for one week. Withdraw all you like. Refuse to use credit card or pay any interest for one month (dare ya’)

There are many more things that we can refuse to participate in that are killing us off, and they can be done in a way that promotes and protects life.
But it must be done in mass and a united effort. It is NOT an illusion that we have the power to act accordingly. As you say, Shrub, some of us have the power to uncover and discover facts and events from our past, present and future and write about them. Some how, I believe the motive for writing and discussing what we see, ultimately MUST lead to actions that start to turn the tide of death and destruction. We do not need a hero…..we can “lead” ourselves out of this mess if we TRULY want to do that. No Doubt.

It is matter of Trusting Who We Are and to be set free of the lie “that we cannot do anything to stop it or change it”.

There is just no doubt about it, now. We should not give anyone the right to do what the current administration is doing in our name. Are we forgetting that a portion the money we earn, helps finance them to do this shit in the world and to us?? I will find as many ways as I possibly can to participate in stopping this war. Talk won’t do it and the government or our politiians won’t do it, but we can.
Hit 'em where is hurts. It is greed, addiction to power and money that motivates the destuction of Humanity. IT IS TPTB'S DEPENDENCE ON OUR CONSUMPTION OF GOODS THAT KEEPS IT ALL GOING!

What if everyone went on a strike to purchase gas or oil products for (?) days. Oh Yeah, maybe, refuse to buy any weapons or ammunition for one week. I am not sure, but it might help. I know illegal drugs such as heroin and cocaine are funding the war and it is a little too much to ask those who are addicted to refuse to use, but maybe they could demand FREE treatment for their addictions, (if they so choose.) or demand better illegal drugs that don’t kill you.

Last, but not least, REFUSE to pay income tax. At least 70% of American citizens do not support this war and are horrified at the possibility of what is to come; that is a lot of people and a lot of strength. Our taxes are supporting death and destruction in the world and financing our own demise. We could pretend for a little while longer that we still live in a democratic society and what the majority of us want still matters.

So, those who finally get that we have been totally fooled into believing the world is one way, when it is really NOT that way, then maybe, we could demonstrate what TRUE bravery is without violence, and have more faith in our abilities as humans to create another reality. This one surely SUCKS, (however, I will keep saying “I am sorry and I love you” to ALL OF IT, and heal this disease that has infested Humanity.)

I am not saying that anything I have suggested will actually work but we must DO something now as a collective to demonstrate that we REFUSE to go on believing and living this way. My generation believed in moratoriums and we were a powerful collective for a while, until the government starting killing us to show their power and strength. We have been silent and inactive for too long.

Shrub, I will be the first to put any tax dollars that would go to this insane government into the Private Equity Fund. Where do I send my check?


8/20/2007 04:55:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Surrender said;

"So, those who finally get that we have been totally fooled into believing the world is one way, when it is really NOT that way, then maybe, we could demonstrate what TRUE bravery is without violence, and have more faith in our abilities as humans to create another reality."

To admit that we have been totally fooled may be a necessary first step, yet any reality creation will reflect the criteria for understanding that is chosen to create that (new perception) of reality.

The thing that puzzles me is the lack of interest in creating the new criteria. Pretty much, all I see is folk picking at scabs. (The glamour of the spectacle.) Oh well, back to the lab pinky.

8/20/2007 06:23:00 PM  
Blogger wwwdotnet said...

Dr. Bombay,

I think I was misleading in my post. I was trying to ask if there was an actual set of guidelines, or general agreement, on what would be over the government's imagined line. If there have been cases in the past of blogs in the West getting attention, with arrests made under grounds of citing violence. And i agree full heartedly that we have to be ready for any for the link of the group, i was not intending to imply that i did not believe it post that link here would not be such a sane posting. I truly fear for your country, and my own, england. only wish there was such a place such as this blog here, where our media has a subtle twisted nature that hypnotises these worried heads. the internet is that knife edge tool, giving us a freedom of choice of our information, but also with the ability to turn us into sofa revolutionaries. a knew history lesson is needed for the world, some mass therapy of recognising the hidden away atrocities of the past and present.....and preparation for the looming crisis. anyway, much love.... x

8/20/2007 06:59:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

You're welcome, Dr. Bombay.

And for solutions (in case recent arrivals are out there), I would propose something like this. Click the book link on the right column:

"Bioregional democracy (or the Bioregional State) is a set of electoral reforms and
commodity reforms designed to force the political process in a democracy to better
represent concerns about the economy, the body, and environmental concerns (e.g. water quality), toward developmental paths that are locally prioritized and tailored to different
areas for their own specific interests of sustainability and durability. This movement is variously called bioregional democracy, watershed cooperation, or bioregional representation, or one of various other similar names—all of which denote democratic control of a natural commons and local jurisdictional dominance in any economic developmental path decisions—while not removing more generalized civil rights protections of a larger national state."


"Toward A Bioregional State is
a novel approach to development and to sustainability. It proposes that instead of sustainability being an issue of population scale, managerial economics, or technocratic planning, an overhaul of formal democratic institutions is required. This is because
environmental degradation has more to do with the biased interactions of formal institutions and informal corruption. Because of corruption, we have environmental
degradation. Current formal democratic institutions of states are forms of informal gatekeeping, and as such, intentionally maintain democracy as ecologically out of sync. He argues that we are unable to reach sustainability without a host of additional ecological checks and balances. These ecological checks and balances would demote corrupt uses of formal institutions by removing capacities for gatekeeping against democratic feedback. Sustainability is a politics that is already here--only waiting to be formally organized."

The demographics of concern are indeed already here. Check out the polls collated at the link around the supermajority supporting health, ecology, and economic locality. We're hardly alone in this.

Just for one example of moving the frameworks over, one of the many ideas in Toward a Bioregional State would be for a more competitive party framework facilitated by watershed districts. Why? Permanent, ungerrymanderable, directly a reflection of a community's durable local interests. Updating with censuses can be done with relative weights how much the representative's discrete vote counts in legislatures (state and federal, in the U.S. example), instead of being an excuse for changing and biasing the whole demographic arrangement in gerrymandering).

Watershed districting is one of about 60+ different institutional additions for many forms of checks and balances. Yes, current border issues are discussed for what happens there.

Starting up these other institutions (independent of any governmental relations) would help as well. (CDI and Commodity Ecology)

(Of course, counting votes would help: fully public voting frameworks, paper-based auditablity. You would be surprised how few places in the world have this arrangement and are merely 'virtual democracies.' At this stage, particularly the U.S. can't prove in a court of law--with demonstratable evidence--it conducts tamper-proof elections.)

The bioregional state ideas are hardly limited to suggestions for the United States. It's a suggestion for everywhere.

A more intricate example solving several issues at once, is the suggestion for the voting rules of of "PRMA" (proportional representation with majoritarian allotment). It gets a bit hairy to describe just in a blog form.

However, for a short summary, it's point is to solve several difficulties at once: to get all political parties competing for 100% of the full electorate, instead of merely competing for the partial electorate; providing incentives for small parties more than just symbolic opposition; solving issues of how to make electoral fraud more contestable, with parties having a real self-interest in it what are the exact numbers because a lot rides on that instead of abstract moral incentive to contest election fraud; the higher competition means all parties will be integrative and attempt to appeal to the electorate more. The whole incentive frameworks have changed. Wed this with watershed districting (so the pre-vote totals aren't rigged either to a particular demographic of party support) and throw in several dozen other ideas, and you have something.

For instance, with PRMA, if the aggregate voters actually want a plurality outcome (supporting a spectrum of candidates without one getting over 50%), just accept that this is the more accurate reflection of what the electorate wanted. In this case, the result goes proportional representation only based on the outcome for that particular election, with the discrete top three (as a suggestion) representatives getting the exact percentage of the vote they got, e.g., .10, .42, .45). That's all a single representative's vote counts for in the subsequent legislature where three people are brought into power from that (watershed) district. (It effects executive branch elections as well of course, though I'm not going to summarize that here.)

It's sort of a direct democracy through letting the actual voting outcomes be meaningful for how much power the electorate is willing to give to a certain candidate.

Contrast that with the 'first past the post' frameworks as they are called, where even a low plurality win will get any candidate the whole shebang, thus FPTP incentives peversely encourage parties to find ways to keep people away from the election instead of integrating them.

On the contrary, if the electorate does in a particular election support a single candidate more than 50%, then they get the whole vote--though only in that particular election outcome that they have to prove.

Thus the incentive is to set up a dynamic for making smaller parties (that know they can indeed win under the outcome of plurality) compete with larger parties (that know if they are more integrative they can win the whole vote). This will encourage a ratcheting appeal up to the full electorate as they compete for whether the general outcome will be plurality or majoritarian, pushing all parties with these very different incentives in the same framework instead of just collusion to appeal to a partial electorate. Additionally, it solves some demographic and party strategy specialization problems noted in both PR and FPTP.)

With PRMA, then multiple parties compete to represent the durable local interests of voters, instead of compete to divide them into ever-changing gerrymandered districts that bias election totals before elections even start; or instead of gatekeep against such issues. The self-interested incentives of smaller parties or larger parties to challenge potential vote fraud is enhanced because it translates into real issues now, exactly what are the actual demographic outcomes of an election (whether majoritarian or plurality wins.) PRMA sets up informal self-interested incentives for parties to challenge vote fraud, because their actual power rides on it. More on that at the link--and the book.

8/20/2007 10:51:00 PM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

How sad that we have to "watch
what we say" with the dark shadow
of fear looming over us just for
expressing our thoughts. It really
shows how much we have regressed as
a society in the last six or seven
years. Their have been some instances
of people in the U.S. being charged
with "Hate Crimes" for using certain
words that others have found offensive, but is hasn't become a
widespread problem or practice.
At least not yet anyway.
And again,it was never my intention
to cajole anyone into considering joining a "Militia". The discussion
was based on how other segments
of the American public are dealing
with what many consider an impending "Police State".
Recently it has come to light that
Homeland Security has been recruiting pastors and preachers
(in excess of 13,000) to insert
instructions in their sermons to "Obey the Government"in the event that Martial Law is declared in the U.S. This tactic was used quite
effectively by Hitler in his run up
to WWII. And you are right, it
would not be wise to mention by
name the groups I have been in contact with. But if you, or anyone
else, wants that info just leave a
message on my blog- Bombay's
Bombast. (click on Dr. Bombay to
link). By the way, I think your
"screen name" is quite clever and
certainly easy to remember! I hope
to see more posts from you "Dot" as
I am very curious about how the rest of the world is perceiving the
U.S. right now.

Thank you for your many
excellent suggestions regarding
ways to make a difference in our
daily lives. A clear eye and a level head are certainly welcome
and in fact necessary.

8/20/2007 11:48:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

wwwdotnet, do you know of web sites that incite violence? I do not know of these sites, so I can not know what line there is to cross, let alone where that line may be. Oh, and for you paid spooks out there, you took an oath to defend the constitution and our country, not the govt. The organization of this corruption will fall; you may choose to fall with it, -your call.

Now w, can I call you w, if not I will call you net. There is a thing called a word program that does grammar and spell checking, it works real good and you could well use it.

One sentence you wrote, I do like, quite a bit. You said, “some mass therapy of recognizing the hidden away atrocities of the past and present..”

The therapy I apply and promote is to balance order and liberty, so as to maintain positive expressions of being and help cultivate discretion. Within our current paradigm, all kinds of people at all kinds of times have their attempts at being ‘good’ people, co-opted and turned towards the negative. They get trapped, and then because of pride and insecure ego, they build fortresses impenetrable to reason. Look at who the CIA recruits, smart kids from broken homes. Smart but stupid and now up is down and down is up. So the atrocities (and potentials) are hidden by our need to (socially) identify with corrupted ideologies.

The church and corporations tend to promote the fixed principle so they resonate with Ahriman, while the bankers resonate with the principle of indiscriminate change or Lucifer. Big money, big fights. Still the fat lady has not yet sung and as most people prefer to be ‘good’, with a proper formula they may yet learn what it is to be ‘good’.

Thanks Mark for that Kepler material. an excellent primer on economics, interest rate drivers and the current situation, if that stuff interests anyone here.

8/21/2007 12:01:00 AM  
Blogger Tin Mole Man said...

most are very
aware that they are being closely
monitored and take appropriate
measures to maintain security.

Yeah, what, tin foil hats? Tin Mole Men?

8/21/2007 12:29:00 AM  
Blogger Tin Mole Man said...

I suggested starting a Private Equity Fund with the purpose of shutting down Corporate America and our Pay For Political Power System as its ultimate goal.

Yes, exactly Shrubageddon. To make a mound of money and strengthen oneself is probably the only solution, although my own indignance says, "Fuck valuing the same idol, money, that they do."

But in reality, all money is is an abstract representation of worth and wealth: old as dirt; innocent would be any attempt at attaining wealth to strengthen ones ability to survive.

Otherwise, violence is a sure avenue into their hands. There is so much surveillance, so much infiltration of any intelligence that is not directly on the payroll, that any "organization" would be quickly disintegrated. Dr. Bombay's thousands of people are most likely a mere illusion.

Too bad in some ways that the only ones who can use deadly force are the feudal lords; it just so happens that all of the technology available to mankind is in their pockets, due to their being pimps of a sort to scientists of the 20th century, buying up or taking by force and intellectual property of any worth. This leaves all of us not working for them, their police state, at their mercy. We waited to long to abide by the laws set forth in the Declaration of Independence and the preamble to the U.S. Constitution; we and our not so distant forefathers were outlaws for too long. Now technology ownership is far too lopsided for any hopes at success in violence.

In other words: they got it all sewn up.

Time to save, save, save...even in the face of the highest amount of household debt in history. Read, Read, Read. Become a master of something. But if you don't toe the line in a psychological way, if you don't join them in personality, then all of the PhDs in the world won't save you. You must be a good ol' boy, which is really THE only law of this land. Period. Keep your mouth shut, deal with the violence, sell your family out, and watch the scooby snacks come-a-rollin' in. As much as this sounds negative, fatalistic, it really is the only choice when the shit hits the fan.

Of course venting online at least allows malcontents like myself to survive one more day. In the meantime, Shrub, what's the routing number????????????????????????????

Fuck. Shit. Ass.

8/21/2007 12:55:00 AM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

Tin Mole Man,
Oddly enough they don't use
tin foil hats. They use those X-Ray
Specs that you see in the back of
comic books...

8/21/2007 01:43:00 AM  
Blogger Edo said...

Hi Jeff,

thank you for the clarity.

I know exactly what you mean: All to often things happen with people and places ( or clearly don't happen) and then other people make up outrageous and elaborate theories about what happened or didn't happen that have NO basis in the facts.

Then these theories lead a life on their own spawning new theories and thoughts on and on, for which there is NO basis whatsoever.
Sort of like spreading False rumors. (think WMD and Iraq).

It is then as if what did happen doesn't matter anymore for the story continues based upon a lie or an illusion.

8/21/2007 01:04:00 PM  
Blogger Concentration Cramp said...


Have you read and digested all/most of the dissertation posted by Jaap Bax that you link to from time to time?

If so I'd like to discuss it some more, in depth, but I don't know that this blogs lends itself to that. We are talking about post-grad philosophy mainly. I think Bax offers some wonderful insights but gets confused in a few key places.

In particular he is basically a process philosopher but doesn't appear to be as acquainted with that line of philosophizing (particualrly Henri Louis Bergson). Secondly, not touching on and delving into astronomy is a huge makes many of his (very erudite) insights MUCH more digestible as opposed to biology which is overwhlemingly complex.

Next(ly), I think he has not *quite* refuted Hume and Kant completely (although Veatch is very, very good on this and is a primary influence on Bax it seems). The problem goes beyond the question of induction, and gets to the very heart of the fact that, in a real sense, causality <==> determinism. But already we need to backtrack and establish some foundations. At one point Bax says he will get to causality later, but now I can't locate the page where he treats it at length..navigation could be a little better.

And, finally, most of his work is undeniably best seen through the lens of quantum mechanics which is capable of putting a much finer point on things he is compelled to over-expound on. In particular chapter 5 is much too wordy for what it actually says and could be more explicitly developed from a process perspective if he introduced a more rigorous QM-informed approach. He does this to an extent but leans on Bohm too heavily..another area that puts him at odds with Kant..and somewhat irreconcilably as his theory is constructed. It is easy to show how a minor tweak corrects this error though.

8/21/2007 04:56:00 PM  
Blogger acl said...

Just to elaborate on my last comment a little bit because I had to run and left it hanging:

Speaking very loosely here, but "non-being" or "nothing" are purely subjective terms. This is because Name/Identity ontologically MUST precede Being. No, this doesn't constitute a "Linguistic Turn" but it does (in Bax's own phraseology) thrust Nothingness into the category of epistemology and not ontology.

Accepting that we are sort of forced into "multiplicity" which is so en vogue with the Continental philosophers (Badiou for example) as a basis for our ontology. This is very, very close to superposition in quantum physics. Or, in statistical mechanics, it would be a non-preferential random walk.

But here is where Bax stumbles as his take on Implicate/Explicate is essentially a divide between the possible and the actual where the possible exists as a "pure state" or "Multiplicity" and is actualized by some mechanism.

But already Kant has headed this off with the simple observation that if you have two realms, one of which is All Possibilities, then the other is Impossible. Its mental quicksand.

Instead, it is better to show that the quantum/acausal perspective (basically statistical mechanics) and the causal/classical perspective are in fact merely different ways of looking at the same thing. One possible approach is considering other coordinate systems than the spatio-temporal one. For instance let Energy and Momentum be coordinates. This is already hinted at by a simple Hilbert Space diagram, but this subject needs alot of development so I'll leave it for now.

But now we also have to go back to the ontological primacy of Name/Identity and develop a Logic consistent with that (necessary?!) assertion. Needless to say, I don't think Veatch's Intentional Logic does this although it is likely salvageable (I'm not sure, I haven't thought this all the way through obviously)

Lastly, I am at a loss to see how you can develop a process ontology and not provide a much greater exposition of Time and the bugaboo that no one really understands, Entropy. This is where Bergson and the "prodigious failure" William Sidis come in. It is fairly demonstrable that time must be continuous but not analytic (ie it is not differentiable). Quantum Mechanics actually requires this but it is just as straight-forward to see from the Eleatic Paradoxes. An analysis of this should be put front and center right next to Bax's concept of extension since it is vital to everything subsequent.

Bax is doing an incredible job of laying the ground-work in a rigorous, thorough fashion..I mean that. I am *extremely* impressed with his work. However, from my last post and this one I have two criticisms:

1. Needs more straight-forward ways to present his theory (astronomy, QM, statistical mechanics alongside his *extensive* biological pages)

2. Some ill-considered aspects of his ontology which lead him to untenable conclusions. And, again, I think those can be addressed readily..definitely not a case to throw the baby out with the bathwater :)

Overall, though, it is one of the great expositions of process philosophy that I've read. Its brilliant.

8/21/2007 07:58:00 PM  
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Salam..only a couple of hits to your profile and brand new to blogger. You wouldn't be the same guy who...never mind. I don't see Hepp's name on the blog. Are your name dropping. I've never heard of a Neo-Nazi Islamafascist cheerleading squad that thought 911 was heaven sent. I've never heard anyone say that 911 was a good thing. I know the people here and the people hear would be receptive to your link but not necessarily your political intrigue. From your link....

‘Consider the One God Universe: OGU. The spirit recoils in horror from such a deadly impasse. He is all-powerful and all-knowing. Because He can do everything, He can do nothing, since the act of doing demands opposition. He knows everything, so there is nothing for him to learn. He can’t go anywhere, since He is already fucking everywhere, like cowshit in Calcutta. … The OGU is a prerecorded universe in which He is the recorder.’ (WL 113)

For Kaye, the superiority of Burroughs’s analysis of power – over ‘trivial’ ideology critique - consists in its repeated emphasis on the relationship between control systems and temporality. Burroughs is emphatic, obsessive: ‘[I]n Time any being that is spontaneous and alive will wither and die like an old joke.’ (WL 111) ‘A basic impasse of all control machines is this: Control needs time in which to exercise control.’ (WV 339) OGU control codings far exceed ideological manipulation, amounting to cosmic reality programming, because – at the limit – ‘the One God is Time’ (WL 111). The presumption of chronological time is written into the organism at the most basic level, scripted into its unconsciously performed habituated behaviors:

‘Time is that which ends. Time is limited time experienced by a sentient creature. Sentient of time, that is - making adjustments to time in terms of what Korzybski calls neuro-muscular intention behaviour with respect to the environment as a whole ... A plant turns towards the sun, nocturnal animal stirs at sun set ... shit, piss, move, eat, fuck, die. Why does Control need humans? Control needs time. Control needs human time. Control needs your shit piss pain orgasm death.’ (AP 17)

Power operates most effectively not by persuading the conscious mind, but by delimiting in advance what it is possible to experience. By formatting the most basic biological processes of the organism in terms of temporality, Control ensures that all human experience is of – and in – time. That is why time is a ‘prison’ for humans. ‘Man was born in time. He lives and dies in time. Wherever he goes he takes time with him and imposes time.’ (GC 17) Korzybski’s defintion of man as the 'time-binding animal' has a double sense for Burroughs. On the one hand, human beings are binding time for themselves: they ‘can make information available over any length of time to other men through writing.' (GC 66) On the other hand, humans are binding themselves into time, building more of the prison which constrains their affects and perceptions. ‘Korzybski’s words took on a horrible new meaning for Burroughs in the library,’ Kaye said, ‘he saw what time-binding really was, all the books, already written, time bound forever.

eric here..Like I said before, Time is an extension of the senses and that would be the sixth sense. I really appreciate the link by the way. More truthiness in fiction the better.

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