Saturday, November 08, 2008

My Barack Pages



Memorizing politics of ancient history
Flung down by corpse evangelists
Unthought of, though, somehow - Bob Dylan


Just because there's a Democrat in the White House is no reason to stop reading Lovecraft.

From "The Shadow in the Attic":

There was a moment that was as if the Earth had taken a half turn backward or something of that kind, and I had not gone along with it but were suspended somewhere far out in space at the instant before plunging into orbit of my own - and then the moment passed, the Earth resumed its regularity of turning, the room lightened, the flame in the lamp steadied.

It was the longest moment for some, lasting eight years, since the done-deal that was Gore's Florida flipped columns. Old certainties, even among cynics, of how bad things could get, suddenly seemed wretchedly naive as the Earth staggered like a drunk, with Dick Cheney its designated driver. As kleptocracy and high crime compounded illegitimacies and low comedy, many millions - conservative Republicans and conspiracy debunkers among them - came to feel themselves in a strange place, with unlikely companions and no sure footing, and entertaining hypotheses they had once thought unimaginable. And as the years dragged, it became difficult to conceive of anything different, or to reflect upon what "different" might even mean.

And now, it would seem, the moment has passed. The Earth has resumed its kinder, gentler course, and the shadow in America's attic has been dispelled by - I dunno; shall we call it a thousand points of light? Democrats can awake from a nightmare and fall into a dream, and conspiracy theory can once more become the property of the "patriot" right.

I think the worst of conspiracy theory - actually all theory, and no conspiracy - must be the unfalsifiable, post hoc prediction. If you haven't seen it yet or don't know what I'm talking about, you will, as theorists retool their cottage industries to react to a Democratic administration. Fintan Dunn calls it the "Red Coup gambit" of the New World Order, absurdly describing Obama as an "undercover Marxist ideologue." Webster Tarpley gets in on the action with his book The Postmodern Coup, which shoe-horns Obama into his meta-analysis as the next, inevitable Manchurian Candidate of the Brzezinski faction. Alex Jones, like some Star Trek energy entity that feeds on pure hysteria, is whipping up a new batch to keep those cards and letters coming. ("Congressman, are you feeling the dread many of us are feeling right now?")

But it's neither that complicated nor so ridiculous, is it? Real history, even in the living of it, isn't a seamless narrative that enfolds all events into a single narrator's construct. As recently as September, I thought there was no clear path for an Obama victory. Still, the election didn't need to be staged, not with a vetting process designed to winnow out all contenders who don't know what and to who they owe, who might do something, even by chance, that could divest the true rulers of their rule. (And McCain didn't actually run to lose, not really, though the creepiest incompetent campaign in American history might as well have been managed by Kid Gleason.) That Obama could be taken for a progressive, even in the beltway sense of the term, is a testament to the polish of his blank slate and the desperation of an orphaned Left anxious for a win, even if it means their loss. To whom the coming surge in Afghanistan, the likely deferral of a meaningful withdrawal from Iraq (one that might include private armies and troops that have had the "combat" redefined out of them), the appointment of Rahm Emanuel and other "moderates" will smell like...victory.

Last Thursday, as President Elect, Obama received his initial briefing of classified intelligence pertaining to national security. Friday, CNN's Candy Crowley asked "whether anything's given you pause," to which he replied "I'm going to skip that." Whatever he heard, and however long he paused, I'm fairly certain he didn't hear anything like what Evo Morales means to brief him:

Bolivian leader Evo Morales on Thursday accused the US government of encouraging drug-trafficking as he explained his decision to banish the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA).... "The worst thing is, it did not fight drug trafficking; It encouraged it," the Bolivian leader said, adding that he had "quite a bit of evidence" backing up his charges.

Presidential Minister Juan Ramon Quintana presented a series of documents and press clippings at a news conference, which he described as "object data" that had influenced Morales' decision to suspend DEA activities last week.

Quintana said Morales was ready to present the evidence to incoming US president Barack Obama "to prove the illegality, abuse and arrogance of the DEA in Bolivia."

When Bill Clinton entered the presidency, he sought some back-channel answers to questions not addressed in his classified briefing. His Deputy Attorney General Webster Hubbell wrote in Friends in High Places:

Clinton had said, 'If I put you over at Justice, I want you to find the answers to two questions for me. One, who killed JFK. And two, are there UFOs?" Clinton was dead serious. I had looked into both, but wasn't satisfied with the answers I was getting.

Clinton might have curried the Deep State's favour in Mena, but it withheld its deeper secrets from him and his Arkansas capo as from middle managers just passing through without a legitimate need to know. (The seeming otherworldliness of the Bush/Cheney years is largely accounted for by the broad, intuitive dread that Cheney knows.) Obama doesn't even display Clinton's idle curiosity, though he and his Chicago Mafia do show some of his hubris. Should he change in office, and light a lamp in America's shuttered rooms, he may feel the Earth take a half turn backwards, while its true rulers decide what to do with him.

473 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two post in two weeks...things -are- looking up (even if one -was- more an announcement).

I'll take it.

11/08/2008 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll wager that Obama knows EXACTLY what he is doing and that he's looking to get promoted up the food chain. He's given every indication that he's not going to make waves.

So I don't think he's ignorant, merely savvy.

Unlike many the doubting Thomas, I knew that Obama would probably be [s]elected. He came out of nowhere, and was spotlighted as a rising star. 8 years of Bush/Cheney distorted "unilateralist" "American-exceptionalism" softened people up for internationalist, global government change, especially with the manufactured economic crisis and Obama being portrayed as somehow better on the economy than McCain, even though no known reliable metric was even hinted at as to how this was the case.

That he raised insane amounts of money, and was backed by good old Zbig, one who probably does know, were especially strong indicators.

[BTW - Talking about Zbig's role in U.S. policy to his former proteges will evoke fear in them.]

And then you have the Clintons with all their baggage. The Obamas are like the Clintons, except their black, good-looking, and have two adorable daughters, plus no credible scandals going against them. All the mud flung was completely, totally weak.

[BTW2 - Somewhere there's a picture of Obama's daughters standing next to Cheney; the youngest one blithely ignoring him with her back turned to him. But I guess if you show no fear, or if the beast has no reason to fear you, all is well.]

But, what I would like to see, is a full Riginting of the Obama administration. I think it could just as easily be more surreal than the Bush administration.

11/08/2008 02:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah, here we go, from Ralph Nader via Counterpunch:

"Nader: On Fox I said that as the first African American president we wish him well. The question is, will he be Uncle Sam for the people or Uncle Tom for the giant corporations which are driving America into the ground. Fox cut it off after “corporations”.

He is less vulnerable to criticism and harder to criticize because of his race. When I said he was talking White Man’s talk, the PC people got really upset.

It doesn’t matter that he sides with destruction of the Palestinians, and sides with the embargo. It doesn’t matter that he turns his back on 100 million people and won’t even campaign in minority areas. It doesn’t matter than he wants a bigger military budget, and an imperial foreign policy supporting various adventures of the Bush administration. It doesn’t matter that he’s for the death penalty ,which is targeted at minorities. But if you say one thing that isn’t PC, you get their attention. I tell college audiences, a gender, racial or ethnic slur gets you upset, reality doesn’t get you upset.

Can Obama speak truth to the white power structure? There’s every indication he doesn’t want to. For example, in February he stiffed the State of the Black Union annual meeting in New Orleans. He’s a very accommodating personality. "

Yup, that's about right.

11/08/2008 02:23:00 AM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

Jeff,
Forget that Obama is "Black"
for a moment. First and foremost,
he is a politician. A politician
who took more money from the Wall Street Banksters than any other
candidate. And who was the prime mover in the Senate behind the
bailout bill which,the last time I checked, is going to cost us
$2 Trillion dollars and hasn't helped a single homeowner. Not to mention another "stimulus" package.
Hell, if all we have to do to get out of this mess is print money
then send my check right to my
house and maybe I'll show up for work. Face it.. you got snookered.
I warned you that the mellifluous
tones of Obama's voice would suck you in, and now I have my proof.
Jeff ..its not to late..in fact,
its never to late.
Whats that..? Rahm Emanuel is
going to be his Chief Of Staff?
Didn't he work for Clin..?
Oh..never mind..

"Meet the New Boss,
Same as the Old Boss..'
The Who

11/08/2008 03:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

haha, the future is gonna be unpredictable. like always.
history spirals out and expands upon itself. not exactly repeating.

11/08/2008 05:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesn't mean they won't kill him anyway, so shall we stand with him when the lone gunmen come?

We're all Zapruders now

11/08/2008 07:36:00 AM  
Blogger Jeff said...

"I warned you that the mellifluous
tones of Obama's voice would suck you in, and now I have my proof."

I haven't been sucked in. If by proof you mean my closing hypothetical about what may happen if he changes in office, that will be his choice, like it was Kennedy's. I'm not expecting it from him, though I would expect a similar response from the Deep State if he changes as much.

11/08/2008 10:43:00 AM  
Blogger Loveandlight said...

We-ell, after seeing John Kerry more or less "take a dive" in the 2004 election (in which I was very heavily emotionally invested) and the craven performance of the Democrats since the start of 2007, I consider myself a Recovering Democrat and am single-mindedly not partaking of the Blue, Blue Kool-Aid. As the kids at the grocery store where I work might phrase it, it tastes like bitter ass now.

I think the Obama Administration will be a lot like the Clinton Administration: An intelligent, wonky technocrat upholding the situation bequeathed to him by his predecessors. Of course, when he dares to roll back one or two egregiously reactionary minor policies, the wingnuts fueled by AM Hate-Radio will scream themselves red in the face about how "Hussein" Obama is the Anti-Christ.

So as the late, great Hunter S. Thompson may well have said, the next few years will be like the nineties, only with no money. ;-)

11/08/2008 11:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Obamageddon said...

what may happen if he changes in office, that will be his choice, like it was Kennedy's.

If by changes, you mean moves to the Left of Center, then we have an inherent contradiction, don't we? An extremely intelligent person, as so many on the left keep preaching Obama is, wouldn't be idiotic enough to make such a move, not only because it would destroy him, politically, but because it wouldn't serve his self-interests. Also, let's remember, even though the Executive Branch has much more power today than it did in Kennedy's day, the function of President has changed substantially. The hat of Figurehead is much more prominent, and the position of President is not much more than the Face and The Pen. Those who truly elected him, i.e. the Penny Pritzkers of the world, and those they have chosen to surround him, are the ones fomenting the strategy and policy. Obama's there to present the image, just as Bush was, only different audiences, but equally as effective.

LoveandLight, I share you sentiments.

11/08/2008 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But Showbama is going to give us a cute, new puppy! Name? Afghanistan Surge?

11/08/2008 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah and them damn kids keep throwing them frisbees in my yard too.

11/08/2008 12:30:00 PM  
Blogger Loveandlight said...

Obama's there to present the image, just as Bush was, only different audiences, but equally as effective.

Giving the people an illusion of choice, however shallow, has proven a remarkably effective means of mind-control.

11/08/2008 12:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

House of Secrets, yes. The US is not just a kleptocracy but a cryptocracy.

Chabert is good on this, as usual, in a post entitled, "I Could Tell You But Then I'd Have To Kill You":

"[...] The craven press of course failed to ask the President Elect, flanked by his loathsome Capitalist Dream Team of advisors, anything about what would be done with the Emergency Emergency Everybody To Get From Street Go Home Nothing To See Here legislation, or rather, to ask if anything could and would be done by his party to stop the indenture of the entire US population to big capital for which it is in the first stages of being deployed.

One can sense he was put forward precisely to carry it out, this profound and radical transformation. While everybody's looking the other way, the US treasury is privatised, and the citizenry committed to assuming all the risk of leading US capital as it yet more aggressively attacks its national and international competition."

http://lecolonelchabert.blogspot.com/

- MacCruiskeen

11/08/2008 01:16:00 PM  
Blogger American Goy said...

Feel free to google "american goy" and see my stuff on Mr. Rahm Emanuel.

There are three facts that everybody is missing about this man:

1) Rahm's father was in the terrorist organization IRGUN

2) Rahm served in ISRAELI not American army during Gulf War 1

3) Coming back to USA from Israeli army, he immediately became the man responsible for doling out money to democratic candidates for Congress - and he picked ONLY pro war candidates.

He is pro Iraq occupation, pro Israel, pro big business, hell, the man is a neocon plain and simple.

Change?

Hope?

Charlatan much, Obama?

Fool me once you, shame on me.
Fool me twice, you... you... you WILL get fooled again!

11/08/2008 01:24:00 PM  
Blogger The Secret Sun said...

Jeff, love the collage. You wouldn't happen to have been inspired by my previous post on the Obama-Star Trek connection, per chance? Or this one, maybe?

11/08/2008 01:37:00 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

Secret Sun, I hadn't seen those. Thanks for the links, I'll check them out. There's just something Trekkie about him, isn't there?

11/08/2008 04:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Obama doesn't even display Clinton's idle curiousity."

Little early to make that kind of sweeping pronouncement... I'm not even sure what you would base that on... from watching him on TV during the campaign?

11/08/2008 04:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Bivings said...

American Goy said:
Rahm served in ISRAELI not American army during Gulf War 1



Bullshit. This is an urban myth. Looks like you bought it.

See Rahm Emanuel and Israel

11/08/2008 05:24:00 PM  
Blogger Great Galactic Ghoul said...

Jeff -- I'm kind of on a Lovecraft kick as well (or the book inspired by him):

Actually I was just reading Colin Wilson's Mind Parasites some more. As I said he identifies the problem correctly but he is wrong about the solution since he focuses on mind yoga (just like Gooch, and so many other Westerners).

In the Mind Parasites the protagonist knows about the parasites taking control because he gets the shivers -- which is EXACTLY when I know that the "mind parasites" are taking over. haha.

But then he blames the moon by misunderstanding Gurdjieff (as do most readers of Gurdjieff).

Plus all the racism stuff -- promoting the "racial consciousness" of Jung -- and stating how earlier cultures relied on instinct and that the mind parasites liked it that way but now that people are getting civilized they realize they are under control of the mind parasites and therefore are committing suicide or just getting sick from neglect, etc. They can't handle the split of civilized intellectual consciousness with the mind parasite instinctual control.

It's really bad social darwinism -- I agree with Dwight McDonald when he called Colin Wilson a philistine. There's this crude worship of science as technospirituality -- which it is. So the book is excellent parody material.

Then I was reading the Genius of Mathematics book which was full of golden ratio propaganda, repeating the lies about the quadratic equation proof defining the golden ratio as A = B + C so that A:B::B:C instead of stating A:B::B:A + B. By using "C" then A + B is switched to A - B, reversing the order, so that frequency is switched to amplitude.

This isn't considered important as long as zero is used and you ignore the music connection which I discovered 1:5/4::8/5:2. This book had a new twist in harmonic and arithmetic mean stating that the secret formula Archytas used was A is to the arithmetic mean as the harmonic mean is to B. So that AM x HM = GM squared, as I had noted in my article on the issue. But the arithmetic mean is 9 and the harmonic mean is 8 with the proportion usually being 6:8::9:12. This book had it turned around as 6:9::8:12. Then I realized that it doesn't matter since one is 2:3 and the other is 3:4 and therefore it can be justified that frequency as 8:9 is the same as amplitude as 9:8, ignoring that 2:3 and 3:4 are complementary opposites. So this is another new insight into the "bait and switch" lie at the foundation of Western science -- with the understanding that A is to B as B is to C with a one-to-one correspondence of letter and number:

FREEMASONRY based on mass ritual sacrifice.

Exactly what the Mind Parasites are promoting. Wilson's whole shiver thing is spot-on but he's got it turned around because he starts the book off with the main protoganists as heavy drinkers, and cynical materialists and then when they discover the mind parasites they switch into health food fanatics and meditators -- but maintain their neofascist mind-set. In fact what caused their revelation of the mind parasites was that they stopped drinking -- not that they had some intellectual breakthrough. The reason they ostensible stopped drinking was because of the intellectual breakthrough though. haha.

It's another case of mind over matter - which is just promoting NeoPlatonism in disguise. And soon the powers of psychokinesis are demonstrated and everything else -- but on the bogus pretense of simply mind yoga which is dependent on the same mind parasites of Freemasonry, etc.

Nice propaganda though despite the horrendous prose-style.

11/08/2008 07:14:00 PM  
Blogger davidly said...

'ey Goy,
The new chief was a civilian volunteer, so technically, he didn't serve "in" their army, but merely served it - repairing brakes.

11/08/2008 11:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ghastly brake repairs!

11/09/2008 12:05:00 AM  
Blogger Dan Tarrant said...

You know, Jeff Wells is a good writer but damn if the guy can't take lemonade and make lemons.

Of course Barack Obama is not going to single handedly defeat the entire corporate world. But even 2-3 years ago could you have imagined the 2008 election turning out as well as it has?

Jeff: really, it's okay to feel encouraged by events every once and a while. And if you're not at least encouraged by the idea of replacing George W. Bush with Barack Obama then you're a cynical man indeed.

11/09/2008 12:07:00 AM  
Blogger just_another_dick said...

I'm pretty slow on the uptake so I didn't see an Obama presidency happening until I stood in that mall parking lot staring at oodles and oodles of empty parking spaces.

The whole financial collapse seemed like something that, at a different time, say 2004, wouldn't have happened until after the election.

I find it hard to believe that the economy is like a pimple that bursts of its own accord.
This appeared to be a popped zit.

Wall Street was running this economic juggernaut on fumes for a while.
For example, 2 years ago, a high ranking official at Standards and Poor's said in an e-mail:

"Let's hope we're all wealthy and retired by the time this "house of cards" falters."
He concluded the message with a smiley face.

Like they say, 'It's the economy stupid."

I have no doubt that the economy is what won Obama his seat.

I suppose that sometimes a "selection" can occur with hanging chads.

Other times, a more drastic flush is required to get the fecal matter flowing in the desired direction.

&, speaking of fecal matter, there's this from the Standard and Poor's website:

"Every day investors and financial professionals the world over look to one firm for financial market intelligence that is authoritative, objective and credible. Standard & Poor’s credit ratings, indices, investment research and data provide financial decision-makers with the information and opinions they need to feel confident about their decisions."

Now that shit is funny.

11/09/2008 12:17:00 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

Jeff, party competition in the U.S. comes and goes though Bilderberger's role as vetting anyone for federal power is there. To leave that out is a huge blind spot:

Bilderberg Luminary To Select Obama's Running Mate
Fannie Mae CEO James A. Johnson was also behind 2004 Edwards pick after Bilderberg signaled approval
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/052308_bilderberg_luminary.htm

"Johnson also selected John Kerry's running mate John Edwards in 2004 after Edwards had impressed Bilderberg elitists Henry Kissinger and David Rockefeller with a speech he gave at the globalist confab in Italy that year."

So Edwards (Kerry's VP, 2004) appeared at Bilderberger in Italy--flew out of the country to get vetted for the position in the country), then came back and was soon national news that he was Kerry's VP. Same person James A. Johnson involved over several years.

Thatcher was vetted in a similar way at Bilderberg.

So was Bill Clinton.

Obama and Hillary attend Bilderberg conference 2008

"americangoy.blogspot.com — There are virtually no news stories on the just concluded (5 – 8 June 2008) Bilderberg meeting, in Chantilly, Virginia.

This is not newsworthy, because nobody important attended... only people like Bernanke, chairman of the FED, the president of World Bank, Condoleezza Rice, Director of the National Security Agency... and Obama and Hillary."

http://americangoy.blogspot.com/2008/06/bilderberg-2008-aipac-2008-obama-and.html

Best summary of Obama's true record as an insider from the start comes from Ralph Nader below.

Nader fails to get into the criminal networks around Rezko or the heavy sponsorship from him all his life (or the interesting corporate connections of Obama's wife's wealth), though Nader gives a good 'surface politics' record of the Obama voting style to put people's mind at ease that the nothing has happened with his selection (selection indeed, for how much of the U.S. voting infrastructure can be trusted anyway. Several states even went back to paper this selection year because of fear of electronic manipulation/selection--and there are strange numbers in Alaska keeping down the left votes--particular the "deep state" connections of Mark Begich (family connected to the HAARP discussions and book on HAARP by Nick Begich--their federal politician father Begich dies suspiciously in an airline accident in Alaska when being unduly contrarian). Mark Begich I have read is a popular Anchorage mayor running against felon Stephens--though voting totals still quite low strangely enough.

Anyway, Here's a nice Nader summary of Obama's record:

Between Hope And Reality

By Ralph Nader

Dear Senator Obama:

In your nearly two-year presidential campaign, the words "hope and change," "change and hope" have been your trademark declarations. Yet there is an asymmetry between those objectives and your political character that succumbs to contrary centers of power that want not "hope and change" but the continuation of the power-entrenched status quo.

Far more than Senator McCain, you have received enormous, unprecedented contributions from corporate interests, Wall Street interests and, most interestingly, big corporate law firm attorneys. Never before has a Democratic nominee for President achieved this supremacy over his Republican counterpart. Why, apart from your unconditional vote for the $700 billion Wall Street bailout, are these large corporate interests investing so much in Senator Obama? Could it be that in your state Senate record, your U.S. Senate record and your presidential campaign record (favoring nuclear power, coal plants, offshore oil drilling, corporate subsidies including the 1872 Mining Act and avoiding any comprehensive program to crack down on the corporate crime wave and the bloated, wasteful military budget, for example) you have shown that you are their man?

To advance change and hope, the presidential persona requires character, courage, integrity-- not expediency, accommodation and short-range opportunism. Take, for example, your transformation from an articulate defender of Palestinian rights in Chicago before your run for the U.S. Senate to an acolyte, a dittoman for the hard-line AIPAC lobby, which bolsters the militaristic oppression, occupation, blockage, colonization and land-water seizures over the years of the Palestinian peoples and their shrunken territories in the West Bank and Gaza. Eric Alterman summarized numerous polls in a December 2007 issue of The Nation magazine showing that AIPAC policies are opposed by a majority of Jewish-Americans.

You know quite well that only when the U.S. Government supports the Israeli and Palestinian peace movements, that years ago worked out a detailed two-state solution (which is supported by a majority of Israelis and Palestinians), will there be a chance for a peaceful resolution of this 60-year plus conflict. Yet you align yourself with the hard-liners, so much so that in your infamous, demeaning speech to the AIPAC convention right after you gained the nomination of the Democratic Party, you supported an "undivided Jerusalem," and opposed negotiations with Hamas--the elected government in Gaza. Once again, you ignored the will of the Israeli people who, in a March 1, 2008 poll by the respected news- paper Haaretz, showed that 64% of Israelis favored "direct negotiations with Hamas." Siding with the AIPAC hard-liners is what one of the many leading Palestinians advocating dialogue and peace with the Israeli people was describing when he wrote "Anti-semitism today is the persecution of Palestinian society by the Israeli state."

During your visit to Israel this summer, you scheduled a mere 45 minutes of your time for Palestinians with no news conference, and no visit to Palestinian refugee camps that would have focused the media on the brutalization of the Palestinians. Your trip supported the illegal, cruel blockade of Gaza in defiance of international law and the United Nations charter. You focused on southern Israeli casualties which during the past year have totaled one civilian casualty to every 400 Palestinian casualties on the Gaza side. Instead of a statesmanship that decried all violence and its replacement with acceptance of the Arab League's 2002 proposal to permit a viable Palestinian state within the 1967 borders in return for full economic and diplomatic relations between Arab countries and Israel, you played the role of a cheap politician, leaving the area and Palestinians with the feeling of much shock and little awe.

David Levy, a former Israeli peace negotiator, described your trip succinctly: "There was almost a willful display of indifference to the fact that there are two narratives here. This could serve him well as a candidate, but not as a President."

Palestinian American commentator, Ali Abunimah, noted that Obama did not utter a single criticism of Israel, "of its relentless settlement and wall construction, of the closures that make life unlivable for millions of Palestinians. ...Even the Bush administration recently criticized Israeli's use of cluster bombs against Lebanese civilians [see www.atfl.org for elaboration]. But Obama defended Israeli's assault on Lebanon as an exercise of its 'legitimate right to defend itself.'"

In numerous columns Gideon Levy, writing in Haaretz, strongly criticized the Israeli government's assault on civilians in Gaza, including attacks on "the heart of a crowded refugee camp... with horrible bloodshed" in early 2008.

Israeli writer and peace advocate--Uri Avnery--described Obama's appearance before AIPAC as one that "broke all records for obsequiousness and fawning, adding that Obama "is prepared to sacrifice the most basic American interests. After all, the US has a vital interest in achieving an Israeli-Palestinian peace that will allow it to find ways to the hearts of the Arab masses from Iraq to Morocco. Obama has harmed his image in the Muslim world and mortgaged his future -- if and when he is elected president," he said, adding, "Of one thing I am certain: Obama's declarations at the AIPAC conference are very, very bad for peace. And what is bad for peace is bad for Israel, bad for the world and bad for the Palestinian people."

A further illustration of your deficiency of character is the way you turned your back on the Muslim-Americans in this country. You refused to send surrogates to speak to voters at their events. Having visited numerous churches and synagogues, you refused to visit a single Mosque in America. Even George W. Bush visited the Grand Mosque in Washington D.C. after9/11 to express proper sentiments of tolerance before a frightened major religious group of innocents.

Although the New York Times published a major article on June 24, 2008 titled "Muslim Voters Detect a Snub from Obama" (by Andrea Elliott), citing examples of your aversion to these Americans who come from all walks of life, who serve in the armed forces and who work to live the American dream. Three days earlier the International Herald Tribune published an article by Roger Cohen titled "Why Obama Should Visit a Mosque."

None of these comments and reports change your political bigotry against Muslim-Americans -- even though your father was a Muslim from Kenya.

Perhaps nothing illustrated your utter lack of political courage or even the mildest version of this trait than your surrendering to demands of the hard-liners to prohibit former presidentJimmy Carter from speaking at the Democratic National Convention. This is a tradition for former presidents and one accorded in prime time to Bill Clinton this year.

Here was a President who negotiated peace between Israel and Egypt, but his recent book pressing the dominant Israeli superpower to avoid Apartheid of the Palestinians and make peace was all that it took to sideline him. Instead of an important address to the nation by Jimmy Carter on this critical international problem, he was relegated to a stroll across the stage to "tumultuous applause," following a showing of a film about the Carter Center's post-Katrina work. Shame on you, Barack Obama!

But then your shameful behavior has extended to many other areas of American life. (See the factual analysis by my running mate, Matt Gonzalez, on www.votenader.org). You have turned your back on the 100-million poor Americans composed of poor whites, African-Americans, and Latinos. You always mention helping the "middle class" but you omit, repeatedly, mention of the "poor" in America.

Should you be elected President, it must be more than an unprecedented upward career move follow-ing a brilliantly unprincipled campaign that spoke "change" yet demonstrated actual obeisance to the concentration power of the "corporate supremacists." It must be about shifting the power from the few to the many. It must be a White House presided over by a black man who does not turn his back on the downtrodden here and abroad but challenges the forces of greed, dictatorial control of labor, consumers and taxpayers, and the militarization of foreign policy. It must be a White House that is transforming of American politics--opening it up to the public funding of elections (through voluntary approaches) -- and allowing smaller candidates to have a chance to be heard on debates and in the fullness of their now restricted civil liberties. Call it a competitive democracy.

Your presidential campaign again and again has demonstrated cowardly stands. "Hope" some say springs eternal." But not when "reality" consumes it daily.

Sincerely,
Ralph Nader

November 3, 2008

Change is already turning into status quo, because Obama always represented it. He's probably not even a (naturalized) American citizen anyway. The ultimate power for those pulling his strings: to always have his citizenship illegitimacy over him?

11/09/2008 01:32:00 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

Rahm Emanuel is a security risk, Mossad connections, says the FBI, ten years ago. Since he is still there, shows how corrupt the U.S has become and how the greater U.S/Israeli empire of warmongering has hegemony over U.S. policy:


November 6, 2008 at 11:59:18 Permalink

IS RAHM EMANUEL A SECURITY RISK?
Diary Entry by Mac McKinney

"Rahm Emanuel's background is well-known. His father was a member of the Israeli Irgun, which was a violent underground movement against the British in Palestine. Rahm has deep ties to Israel and served as a civilian volunteer in the IDF in 1991. That, in and of itself, doesn't make him a security risk. What is disturbing, though, is that the FBI has, according to Wayne Madsen, a Counterintelligence file on him for his past connections with Mossad, and that this is what forced him out of the Clinton White House in 1998.

Is this far-fetched, that Rahm Emanuel may have active links to the Israeli Intelligence Service, Mossad?

Not according to Wayne Madsen.

We certainly should not be surprised that Mossad wants to penetrate the White House, whether it is through Emanuel or someone else. Apparently they may have done so in the past to great advantage. To say the least, the FBI must be allowed to do a full background check on everyone, including Emanuel.

No free passes on such a critical issue, the security of the President.

This is an excerpt from the Nov 6 Wayne Madsen Report, which you will have to subscribe to at: http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/ to read the entire article:

November 6, 2008 -- Obama faced with security problem at outset of transition process

WMR has learned from informed U.S. intelligence sources that prospective Barack Obama White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel has an active FBI counter-intelligence file maintained on him. Emanuel's rise to the Chief of Staff position may pose a significant security problem for President-elect Obama if the FBI insists on conducting the full background security investigation normally required for senior White House officials.

Questions about Emanuel's links to the Israeli intelligence service, the Mossad, were allegedly so great that President Bill Clinton was forced to dismiss Emanuel from the White House staff in 1998............"


http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=10643

11/09/2008 01:39:00 AM  
Blogger just_another_dick said...

I've been trying to avoid thinking about Obama, but this post just did me in.

So...

This bit bugs me about Obama's election the most:

"That Obama could be taken for a progressive, even in the beltway sense of the term, is a testament to the polish of his blank slate and the desperation of an orphaned Left anxious for a win, even if it means their loss."

The Left has embraced this guy in ways that I find astounding considering he's never actually said much other than literate platitudes.

For example, Greg Saunders from The Talent Show, says this:

"I’m having a hard time expressing in words how I feel right now. On the one hand, the election of Barack Obama is one of the great moments in our nation’s history. As my mother said last night “Save your papers tomorrow morning to pass on to your children and grandchildren.” Obama’s landslide victory serves as a mirror-image and bookend of sorts to the last American experience that was this universal and emotionally-resonant, 9/11. The dreadful shadow of fear, confusion, and anger that has defined the last seven years has given way to a new sense of unity, optimism, and patriotism. It’s been a privilege to be a part of this moment."

Geez, get the the guy a tissue. I think he's misting up over a politician.

It's one of the "greatest moments in our nations history?"

Really?


& Jonathan Schwarz from Tiny Revolution says this:

"Has anyone been discussing starting to put donations for Obama’s 2012 run in escrow, to be released upon the accomplishment of certain goals—eg, on Iraq, health care, energy, etc.?

It would take a ton of effort and wrangling to set up. And I haven’t thought it through at all, particularly the various legalities involved. Just off the top of my head, I think you’d have to set up a vote on whether he’d succeeded and the money could be released. I’d also guess you’d might have to require each person to specify a second choice organization for the money to go if Obama fails, so they wouldn’t just get it back and be able send it to the campaign anyway."


Gee, where do I sign up?
Hell, I'll squeeze in some extra overtime too.

Again, I think everyone's getting better drugs than I am. DMT, MDMA, whatever. There are large segments of the population who are traveling to dimensions that I'm denied access.

I think this needs to change.
I think they need to share the kool-aid.
Stingy dope fiends suck it.
Share and share alike I say.
Because, quite frankly, I'd like nothing better than a trip to the land where Obama's halo is readily apparent and "a new sense of unity" permeates my every atom.

Anything to take my mind off the big dildo I feel sticking out of my hind quarters.



& lest we forget, Joe Biden is reason enough to stare askew at any claims of "brilliant leadership on the horizon."


"I can take this stuff coming from most of the Democrats, but it's awfully hard to listen to this crap from Joe Biden. Actually, listening to Joe Biden sound self-righteous about anything makes me want to puke my guts out. I don't know what it is about him. Maybe it's that creepy poof of blowdried gray pubic fuzz he has now covering up that dime-store plug job on his head. Maybe it's the fact that he's been ponderously wondering aloud about his chances for the White House for eighteen straight years, his painfully obvious hard-on for power straining against his suit-slacks, ever since a plagiarism scandal and an aneurysm knocked him out of his first run. Maybe it's that his idea of outflanking the Republican Party is outspending them on the War on Drugs.

"Or maybe it's just that Biden, more than almost anyone in American public life, will do or say anything that he thinks will secure him even the most temporary electoral advantage. A year and a half ago, back when the Iraq war was still a winner politically, Biden spent a lot of his time slamming other Democrats for not being On Board enough with the war effort, and he even went out of his way to bitch out Democrats for criticizing Ronald Reagan.

"As he told the New Yorker: "Everybody knew 'Reagan is dangerous,' remember? He talked about freedom, so what do we do? We say it's a bad speech, dangerous speech," Biden said, adding that Democrats were "making the same mistakes again."

"Biden at the time also complained that Republicans were getting away with taking credit for the idea of a pre-emptive war, when it was really a Democratic idea. "What is so transformational in the last four years is that these assholes who wouldn't give President Clinton the authority to use force" have now become, Biden said, moral interventionists. He added: "Give me a fucking break.""


Good night

& sleep tight

America.

Your future is in goooooooooood hands.

Yesirree bob, it is.

Let's party!

11/09/2008 01:49:00 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

Double link of Bilderberger's and Mossad agents in Freddie Mac worth mentioning.

Seems Bilderberger Johnson at Freddie Mac crossed paths with 'Mossad money bags' Rahm Emanuel because both were there.

Rahm had astounding money links to get him into Clinton staff positions back in 1991:

"Through his Wilhelm connection, in 1991, Emanuel joined the Clinton campaign as a fund-raiser, rewarded with the White House political director post. He flamed out in a few months, to be resurrected and end up as a senior adviser to Clinton.

After seven years in Washington, Emanuel moved to Ravenswood, making millions of dollars as an investment banker in a few deals, and making more money when tapped by Clinton for a plum spot on the Freddie Mac board.


[where John Johnson, Bilderberger resided, and later to vet Democratic Party VP's as well twice over for Kerry's Edwards and Obama's Biden. Plenty of Biden "NWO quotes" floating about from his past speeches].

"With Mayor Daley's backing, Emanuel won a House seat in 2002, quickly rising -- he has a seat on the Ways and Means Committee -- in no small part because of his ability to raise political money. In 2004, Emanuel was tapped by then-Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to chair the Democratic House political operation, where he was the architect of the plan that resulted in the Democrats taking back the House in 2006."

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/11/rahm_emanuel_enforcer.html

Nothing like Mossad connections directing money of the Democratic Party. Nothing is more American at this stage.

Pelosi of course has her own domestic Mafia organized crime and U.S. intelligence links.

Pelosi has her own Rahm Emanuel links:

Title: LIE that Org. Crime Linked Pelosi 'automatically' Speaker; John Conyers is MOST SENIOR
Author: some assembled news
Date: 2006.11.09 11:44

Description: PELOSI IS A NEOCON ORGANIZED CRIME PLANT. Get rid of her!

[1] Pelosi didn't even care about the vote fraud in the electoral college vote 2004 AGAINST her own party. She didn't even support questioning the fraud.

[2] Pelosi called Hugo Chavez a "thug" for the Venezuelan President's "diablo" remarks about Bush. Pelosi thus defending Bush, when Bush is the real thug: Bush tried to oust Chavez in a bloody 2002 coup, Bush invaded and killed tens of thousands of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan, Bush gave Israel green light to pulverize Lebanon and kill over a thousand civilians, and Bush is the thug who tortures prisoners in U.S. custody."

[3] "Pelosi, as bought as she is, is only the front. If you check immediately to her rear and everywhere else at her victory speech, you will find her handler, carefully tugging the strings, doing his ballet. None other than Mr. Democratic Congressional Committee Chairman and U.S. Representative from Illinois 5th District Dual American-Israeli Citizen Rahm Emanuel. This character has a resume that will never stand the light of day, and is worth a good long hard look..."

[4] Particularly because of the Pelosi family links to Italian-Jewish organized crime historically. Her father, Thomas D'Alessandro, of U.S. Military Intelligence, allied with WWII right wing Lucky Luciano's U.S. Mafia. After WWII, Pelosi's father "D'Alessandro...elected Mayor of Baltimore in 1947...when Luciano's mob had a virtual free reign in...Baltimore [and shipped in the CIA's heroin that way]. It would appear that Ms. Pelosi has forgotten that her Mafia-linked father dealt with right wing thugs on a routine basis."
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/11/348949.shtml

These Bush-connected related families of democratic overlordship have always been connected to the Jewish-Italian larger organized crime of the United States, from the 1930s onward:

Jewish Mafia, a.k.a. Meyer Lansky is TWO DEGREES OF SEPARATION......from George H. W. Bush [via their SHARED Melnik and Aranow ties]:

Read about Melnik, Aranow, and Kramer:

book chapter: Drug Running Bush Family and their Fake War on Drugs: Police as drug pushers
author: tarpley

"But the whole truth is much uglier. We have documented in detail how the Iran-contra drug-running and gun-running operations run out of Bush's own office played their role in increasing the heroin, crack, cocaine, and marijuana brought into this country.

...Documents found by Burdick in the Dade County land records office show that USA Racing, the company operated by Aronow which built the Blue Thunder catamarans for the Customs service was not owned by Aronow, but rather by a one Jack J. Kramer in his capacity of president of Super Chief South Corporation. Jack Kramer had married a niece of Meyer Lansky. Jack Kramer's son Ben Kramer was thus the great nephew and one of the putative heirs of the top boss of the US crime syndicate, Meyer Lansky. Ben Kramer was also a notorious organized crime figure in his own right. On March 28, 1990 Jack Kramer and Ben Kramer were both found guilty of 23 and 28 counts (respectively) of federal money laundering charges."

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/05/289770.shtml

11/09/2008 01:59:00 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

Jeff talks of the "Chicago Mafia" though it's explored a bit more detail here as a heady mix of Chinese, Israeli/Mossad, and CIA money laundering capacities. And Rahm Emanuel right in the middle of it:

Journalist Reaches From
Grave To Nail Rahm
Excerpts From Archived News Investigations
By The Late Sherman H. Skolnick
(July 13 1930 ­ May 21, 2006)
11-9-2008


"Heaven, in its Judgment, has cursed us, the common people of America, with a traitor-infested central government, with an evil and fraudulent banking system, with a mendacious press, and with a venal and corrupt judiciary condoned by rapacious and cowardly lawyers. Thus, some say our Constitution is deservedly dead since, in our name, innocent folk on foreign shores are butchered and bombed. We ordinary Americans, if loudmouthed ---Are we quickly approaching the time when foreign secret police on U.S. soil, with impunity, will knock at our door in the dark of night and take us away, who knows, to a world government concentration camp? And will we be the most well-informed inmates of why and how we are there, inside the barbed wire?"

Tell me if you can: WHAT IS THE REASON, NONE DARE CALL THIS TREASON? "

Sherman H. Skolnick
(July 13 1930 ­ May 21, 2006)
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/chinesesp2.html

FROM HIS GRAVE: SHERMAN SKOLNICK EXPOSES RAHM EMANUEL

The late Sherman Skolnick proved himself over the years to be one of the most astute and accurate American investigator journalists.

As the main pillar of American journalism, he simply did not have any match. He alone has put to shame all the US media with his meticulous investigations, as well as being responsible to the removal of corrupt judges and others.

It is with great honour and humility in memory of this giant American journalist that we are bringing to you his research about Rahmbo.

I hope that these warnings by Skolnick will prepare our readers for what is coming very soon. All my interviews with Skolnick are available at our audio archives.

The following are excerpts (in no particular order), sent to us by readers, from Sherman Skolnick articles in which he has tried to warn us about Rahm Emanuel.

URLs available at bottom.

I hope this information keeps our readers informed about the character of our next White House Chief Of Staff 'Enjoy'. (Ed.)

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Intro:

Most people don't know of Rahm Emanuel's frightening past. After President Clinton's election many years ago, one day Rahm Emanuel, Obama's future chief of staff, allegedly named each of the enemies of the Clinton campaign and then stabbing the table with a knife while yelling "dead!" after each name prior to stabbing the table. When you probe deeper into Congressman Emanuel, you find that he is the son of an Irgun Fighter, the same Irgun that blew up the King David Hotel in a terrorist bombing and killed British Military, who were classified as Terrorists by the British in Palestine but from the Israeli perspective were looked upon as freedom fighters. Rahm when he turned 18 was enlisted in the Israeli Defense Forces. He is know as RAHMBO for his pitbull posture! The late Sherman Skolnick in his Skolnick Report said that..."
http://www.newstin.com/tag/us/86579385

Rahm Emanuel - Activities And Associations

"Rahm Emanuel - Top reputed black-mailer, extortionist, and arm-twister for the Clinton White House. About 1991, moved from the Chicago-area, to Arkansas to help conduct Clinton's presidential campaign. Raised funds reportedly by knowing secret workings of major covert operations of the American CIA. Such as: HOUSEHOLD INTERNATIONAL and HOUSEHOLD BANK, headquartered in Chicago, successor to CIA's proprietary dope and assassination funding operation, NUGAN HAND BANK.

General counsel of Nugan Hand as well as Household was former Director of Central Intelligence William Colby (murdered because he knew too much about Rahm Emanuel, the Mossad, and Clinton). Rahm Emanuel latched onto a 50 million dollar portion of federal funds parked with Household to cover the pending claims of Chicago-area caulking contractor, Joseph Andreuccetti, who claimed various Chicago-area banks were implicated, with top corrupt IRS officials, in stealing millions of dollars of properties and monies belonging to Andreuccetti.

Rahm Emanuel grabbed a portion of the parked funds to jump-start Clinton's 1992 campaign. Other portions of the funds were secretly transferred from Chicago to Little Rock to try to cover up an embezzlement of Madison Guaranty S & L for which Bill and Hillary Clinton were subject to being prosecuted on federal bank misappropriation criminal charges. Emanuel is reportedly a double-dealer, purporting to act for the Mossad at the same time acting against.

Emanuel is reportedly chief arranger of Red Chinese and other illicit funds massively flowing through the Chicago markets, disguised as soybean trading, foreign currency dealings, and such, on the Chicago Board of Trade, the Chicago Mercentile Exchange, and the Chicago Board Options Exchange. Currently Rahm plays a key role with Wasserstein & Perella, New York-based alleged investment firm apparently fronting for various Red Chinese interests in U.S."

"Foreign intelligence sources are snickering over reports that the Red Chinese claim they have clandestine audio tapes, still pictures, and YES, even undercover video, showing secret agents of the President/Commander-in-Chief receiving suitcases loaded with money, in return for the U.S. top nuclear secrets including a copy of the super-secret computer data on nuclear testing. The Chinese, so say these sources, are asserting that they BOUGHT such items, fair and square, from CLinton's emissaries. If there is a problem in this type of "routine" business transaction, say the sources quoting Chinese officials, well, "Let the Americans attend to their end of White House business ethics". "

"Wow! What Americans perceive as treachery and espionage the Chinese identify as "business ethics" in a C.O.D. deal. And who are suspected of being Clinton's secret luggage receivers? Here are a few reportedly to consider:===For a long time, RAHM EMANUEL was Clinton White House Senior Advisor and top campaign fund-raiser using apparently strong-arm tactics or even blackmail. In a PBS-outlet program, broadcast in Chicago on WTTW-TV, Channel 11, Rahm Emanuel, on-camera, showed how influential he was with Clinton that Rahm's desk was the closest to the Oval Office. Intelligence sources contend Rahm Emanuel, in effect, is and has been the reputed Deputy Chief, for NORTH AMERICA, of Israeli Intelligence, the Mossad [The Institute]. And why do some contend that Monica Lewinsky, her parents, and others surrounding Clinton in the sex episode, dealt with a Nazi-like specialty, luring someone into a sex "honey pot" and that these are all reportedly Israeli intelligence assets? "

"AND, the Mossad has had unholy arrangements with the Red Chinese on nuclear secrets, contradicted by the fact that the Red Chinese have supplied Silkworm Missiles to sworn enemies of Israel. After supposedly leaving the Clinton White House, Rahm Emanuel has become a bigshot on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, which has reportedly laundered billions of dollars, for Clinton and his handlers and controllers, including Red Chinese and ethnic Chinese [Indonesia] illicit funds from dope trafficking from S.W. China into the U.S.., through Chicago, of "China White", high purity heroin. Also illicit funds from the harvesting of human body parts, on a just-when-needed basis from political prisoners, condemned to death when the hearts, liver, lungs, kidneys, etc., are needed by greedy U.S. hospitals. {As a producer/moderator of a public access Cable TV Show in Chicago, I am planning a one-hour show on this dirty, bloody business. By the way, the political prisoners are beheaded so as not to damage the body parts. Prominent doctors and hospitals are in this rotten traffic, bought and sold like parts of a car.] "

"Rahm Emanuel is no stranger apparently to murder. His father reportedly was part of the assassination team in 1948, that slaughtered U.N. Official, Count Bernadotte, during the Palestine Partition controversy. ===ANother suspected receiver reportedly of Chinese "business" money suitcases is Clinton White House honcho Samuel "Sandy" Berger. "

""MONICA LEWINSKY, reportedly an espionage double-agent. Acting for the apparent deputy station chief for North America, of Israeli intelligence, the Mossad, RAHM EMANUEL. She at the same time was assigned later by Clinton to a key position in the Pentagon, to the staff of the Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon. Her job: to find out by performing sexual numbers on Pentagon officials, who among the top U.S. Military were vowing to arrest Commander-in-Chief Clinton on charges, under the Military Code, of treason. Her parents reportedly had been "sleeper agents" planted by the Mossad. Clinton gave Monica topmost security clearance at the Pentagon without requiring her to go through the usual screening process. She traveled with William Cohen, Secretary of Defense, and took notes of his meetings although not fully competent as a secretary."

"RAHM EMANUEL as former senior Clinton White House advisor was reportedly implicated in various illicit dealings with the Red Chinese penetrating U.S. industrial, financial, and military secrets. A dual citizen, Israel/US. he left the U.S. about 1990 to serve in the Israel Defense Forces, the IDF After leaving the Clinton White House, where he served off and on for some six years, Rahm made a sizeable fortune apparently from the secret Red Chinese dealings to get at U.S. secrets, while Rahm Emanuel was a top official of the investment house, Wasserstein, Perella & Co. Rahm is ostensibly an accomplished participant in "political opposition research", a code name for compiling and using blackmail data."
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"Rahm Emanuel has used a portion of his apparently ill-gotten fortune to buy massive advertising and such, paving the way for him to win, as he did, the Illinois Congressional District previously occupied by defrocked Congressman Rostenkowski, convicted of embezzling sums from the House of Representives private bank. With his dual political loyalty as well, Rahm both supported Clinton publicly while he apparently manipulated him privately using reputed The Mossad controlled sexmate, Monica Lewinsky."
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"Rahm Emanuel has ostensibly functioned as The Mossad's Deputy Chief for North America. In the past, some of Israeli intelligence's top officials for U.S./Canada, were headquartered in Chicago, operating in part through Bank Leumi. [In 1993, through a one-hour public access Cable TV program, we exposed the bank and a major spy/ swindler, later jailed, aided and abetted by the bank allowing him under the table funds as "overdrafts", the Clifford Sugarman affair. He was jailed as a consequence of our tv show.]"
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"For many years, Chairman of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, was Leo Melamed, more recently, Chairman Emeritus. He reportedly grew up in the Orient and understands and/or speaks Chinese. Have the reporters who have interviewed him over the years, ever asked HIM about his reported role in promoting the Red Chinese Secret Police and their domination of the Chicago markets? When, if ever, does the financial press even mention the Red Chinese and the Chicago markets, the prices of items by them referred to worldwide? For a hundred and fifty years the Rothschilds have controlled the Chicago Board of Trade, later joined by the Irish Catholic aristocracy. Do we all understand that the Rothschilds are interwoven with the Vatican? In a simplistic explanation, the world is divided between the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers. At the annual super-secret Bilderberg Group meetings, each year in a different country, the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds, although age-old competitors and "enemies", sit together. Business is business. On behalf of espionage interests, interwoven with the Rockefellers, Rahm Emanuel helped propel William Rockefeller Clinton into high office. In earlier stories, on my website, I wrote how 3 million dollars was siphoned off a secret federal agency 50 million dollar fund used to keep Bill and Hillary Clinton from being federal criminally prosecuted for bank embezzlement. The 3 million dollars put into the hands of Rahm Emanuel jump-started Clinton's 1992 campaign for President."
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"So, the Red Chinese with the aid of their secret political police are able to funnel billions from dirty business coming out looking like soybean and foreign currency deals in Chicago. An instrumenal reputed player/facilitator in all this has been Rahm Emanuel and his gang. On a local PBS TV outlet show in Chicago, Rahm bragged how as Clinton White House Senior Advisor he had a desk closest to the Oval Office. The TV cameras were allowed right into the White House to show this. In effect, Rahm is reportedly the Deputy Chief, for North America, of Israel's secret police, The Mossad. Rahm is permitted to have dual citizenship. During the Persian Gulf War, he went to Israel to serve in their armed forces, reportedly in an espionage capacity. And Rahm Emanuel apparently has two faces. He supposedly has been a Clinton administration loyalist. BUT, at the same time, he reportedly controlled and directed the Israel/Red Chinese secret police circle that manipulated Clinton on sexual scandals, diverting our attention from the oil fraud and similar important matters.. Rahm's gang ostensibly included Monica Lewinsky, whose parents for years were reportedly assets of The Mossad. Clinton/Rahm Emanuel sent Monica to the Pentagon to sniff out what Admirals and Generals were planning a coup against Clinton. In the process, she got pregnant and had an abortion.. Included apparently in the circle is Linda Tripp who previously was a covert operative of the Delta Forces, one of the few women in that capacity."
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"After being Clinton White House Senior Advisor, on and off for six years, Rahm Emanuel became a bigshot with the Chicago office of Wasserstein & Perella, New York-based so-called "investment bankers" purportedly for the Red Chinese and their secret police. Through that firm, Rahm has reportedly been able to promote the agenda of China's Gestapo operating on U.S. soil. And Rahm with the financial "muscle" of the Chinese spy machine has reportedly been able to dominate various other brokers, facilitating the money laundering of illicit funds. Keeping tabs on all this with his own spy shop, Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley reportedly ordered the Irish Catholic aristocracy that manages the Chicago Board of Trade for the Rothschilds: "Get those Red Chinese 'spooks' out of there!" Result: soon thereafter on April Fool's Day, 2000, Richie Daley had a bout of hypertension that put him in Northwestern Memorial Hospital. Was it an accident or did someone send the Mayor a message? "
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"For some years, Harris Bank has been the worldwide center of foreign exchange, trading in the currencies of most every country. Known as ForEx, the trading has reportedly been the key feature in money laundering for the Chicago commodity and currency markets, the Chicago Board of Trade, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, and the Chicago Board Options Exchange.. The financial press seldom if ever mentions that the Red Chinese and the ethnic Chinese of Indonesia have an armlock on the Chicago markets. Their reputed front man has been Rahm Emanuel, for six years having been Clinton White House senior advisor. In a Chicago TV program, Emanuel bragged on camera from scenes in the White House, that his desk there was the closest to the Oval Office."
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The Above Information Was Extracted From The Following Articles..

Red Chinese Blackmailing Clinton?
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/chinese.html

THE TRIPP-WIRE
by Sherman H. Skolnick, moderator/producer of Chicago public access Cable TV Show "Broadsides" since 1991, and chairman/founder since 1963, Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts.
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/tripwire.html

THE RED CHINESE SECRET POLICE IN THE UNITED STATES, Part Two of a Series
by Sherman H. Skolnick
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/chinesesp2.html

Whiskey, Dope and Hot Money Banks
http://www.skolnicksreport.org/whiskey.html

The Red Chinese Secret Police In The United States Part 3
S.E.C.-China Mess Can Rock US
By Sherman H. Skolnick skolnick@ameritech.net
www.SkolnicksReport.com
11-7-8
http://rense.com/general84/red.htm
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Journalist Christopher Bollyn Supporting Sherman Skolnick

Son of a Zionist Terrorist
Rahm Emanuel's Dirty Secret

By Christopher Bollyn
Independent Journalist
(Without Borders)
17 November 2006
The Terrorists In The U.S. Congress

The new "golden boy" of the Democrat Party, the Israeli-American congressman Rahm Emanuel, is the son of a terrorist.

Really, I am not making this up, the chief power-broker of the Democrat Party, the 5-and-a-half foot foul-mouthed Israeli named Rahm, is the son of terrorist ­ a real living terrorist.

So, what do we do as citizens of the land of the free and the home of the brave fighting the War on Terror?

Do we run and hide from the foul-mouthed little Israeli who danced ballet and swears for effect - or do we laugh? Or do we demand answers? How can we respect a U.S. Congressman who served in a foreign army and whose father was a terrorist?

Rep. Rahm Emanuel, the Democrat congressman for the 5th District of Illinois in Chicago is the son of an Israeli terrorist. Rahm's father, Benjamin, was a member of the Irgun, the Zionist terrorist organization that coined a new word as they blew up hotels, train stations, and other buildings in Palestine in the 1930s and 40s.

Rahm was an Israeli citizen until he was 18 years old, when for obvious reasons he hid his Israeli passport in his underwear drawer. In 1991, however, he pulled his Israeli passport out and went and reportedly joined the Israeli Army to defend Zion from Saddam's Scuds.

Irgun, the army of his father, is short for Irgun Zvai Leumi, which supposedly means something like "National Military Organization" in Hebrew. As a matter of fact, the Irgun was simply a terrorist Zionist group that operated in Palestine from 1931 to 1948. They killed innocent Palestinians and British soldiers and blew up buildings.

After 1948 they became part of the new Israeli government and did the same thing. In September 2001 they put their skills to work in New York City and Washington to kick start the "war on terror" - a conflict long promoted by their chief architect, Bibi Netanyahu, son of the former secretary of Ze'ev Jabotinsky.

The Irgun even has a website with pictures of the buildings they blew up before they demolished the World Trade Center with Thermite and high explosives:

www.etzel.org.il

In Israel, the Irgun is referred to as Etzel, an acronym of the group's Hebrew initials. The Irgun was considered a terrorist organization by the British authorities as well as by mainstream Zionist and Jewish organizations, such as the Jewish Agency, the Haganah and the Histadrut. (It just has not made it onto the U.S. State Department's list of terrorist organizations ­ even after blowing up the World Trade Center. Some people are slow to learn.)

Irgun was founded by Ze'ev Jabotinsky and the relationship with Jabotinsky's Revisionist Zionism made it the predecessor to Israel's right-wing Herut and Likud parties.

Guess who runs Israel today?

Answer: The sons and daughters of Irgun. (Check out the commander list on the Etzel website if you don't believe me.)

Guess who runs the United States today? The same people ­ let's start with Rahm Emanuel.

Of course you won't find anything about Rep. Emanuel's father's exploits in Palestine on Rahm's website: http://www..house.gov/emanuel/aboutrahm.shtml

The late Sherman Skolnick of Chicago called Rahm Emanuel the "Acting Deputy Chief for North America of the Mossad ­ Israeli Intelligence."
cloakanddagger.de Rahm Emanuel

Skolnick went on to say that Emanuel's father Benjamin had been "part of the Israeli assassin team that murdered Sweden's Count [Folke] Bernadotte" in 1948. Bernadotte was the envoy of the United Nations in Palestine who sought to find a solution to the UN Partition Plan that gave Palestinian land to Jews from "beyond the pale."

Was Skolnick correct? Skolnick does not document his claims so I checked into his allegations.

"Beyond the pale" would certainly describe where Rahm Emanuel's family came from. His father's family came to Palestine from somewhere in the Ukraine in 1917, according to what Dr. Benjamin M. Emanuel told me the other day. Dr. Emanuel now lives on the appropriately named Locust Road in Wilmette, Illinois.

Benjamin, speaking with a thick Israeli accent, told me that his father's name was Ezekiel Auerbach and that his mother's name was Pinina or something like that. He said it meant "pearl" in Hebrew. Asked about his role in the Irgun, Ben told me he had been a "simple soldier."

Yes, Ben, but serving as "simple soldier" in a terrorist organization makes you a terrorist. And the fact that you served in a terrorist organization 60 years ago makes no difference. You know, same rules for Nazis and terrorists.

Is that not what all those fellows in Guantanamo are being held for?

The Emanuel family name was Auerbach until 1936, although they are not related to the famous rabbinical family of Germany and Krakow named Auerbach. Ben said that his family was from Russia. (Well, the pale but not quite Russia.)

His father Ezekiel supposedly changed the family name to Emanuel when his son with that name died fighting Palestinians in 1936.

Many Jewish families in Palestine changed their names to make themselves sound like they actually came from Palestine. And you wondered where all those Jews disappeared during World War II?

Sheinerman became Sharon, Yezernitzky became Shamir, and Auerbach became Emanuel, and so on. And then multiply by a few hundred thousand. Voila! Millions of European Jews vanish from the face of the Earth - and build new lives in Palestine.

Ben told me that Emanuel Auerbach had died from "shrapnel in the knee" in 1936. When I asked him today for details on this incident he suddenly decided that he did not want to do an interview on the phone and hung up.

But before he terminated the conversation, Dr. Benjamin Auerbach-cum-Emanuel told me that he had been a member of the Irgun and had served under Menachem Begin.. He told me that he had never met Begin and had not smuggled weapons into Palestine, other news reports notwithstanding.

Naftali Bendavid (not a local reporter) with The Chicago Tribune spent 18 months working with Rahm Emanuel to prepare a story for the week after the mid-term elections although Naftali did not think that there was enough room in the 9-page story to mention the salient fact that Dr. Benjamin Emanuel had been a member of the terrorist organization ­ the Irgun.

No. In 9 pages of Bendavid's fluff piece there was simply no room to mention the ugly fact that Rahm's father had been a member of a terrorist organization.

Naftali Bendavid (clearly of Israeli persuasion) wrote a 9-page cover story for last Sunday's paper, which took up the entire second section of the now-failing Chicago Tribune.. (The latest rumor in Chicago is that the indicted but not convicted Zionist criminal Maurice Greenberg may buy the Tribune.)

(This is the same paper that actually hired an outside writer from TIME magazine to co-author a short piece in order to properly smear me and misrepresent the story of my brutal arrest at the hands of Homeland Security goons last August.)

Naftali, at his office in Washington, knew all about Irgun when I spoke with him on the phone. When I said it was an egregious omission to leave out the fact that Rahm's father had been in the Irgun, he said he just couldn't figure how to squeeze that bit into a 9-page article.

Naftali, let me help, as English is my mother tongue: "Rahm Emanuel's father Benjamin was a member of the Irgun, a Zionist terrorist group that operated in Palestine from 1931 to 1948. The Irgun blew up buildings and killed hundreds of innocent people in order to achieve the goals of militant Zionism in occupied Palestine."

Rahm's mother is Martha Smulevitz, who married the Israeli doctor in August 1955. Ben told me that they met in Chicago. I asked if she was related to the Smulevitz family that was living in Palestine in the 1930s. He said no.

There are Smulevitz's and Shmuelevitz's all throughout the Zionist invasion of Palestine. One was hanged by the Brits, one dealt with the Nazis in Berlin, and another was the chief of staff for Menachem Begin ­ take your pick.

It would, however, be most interesting if Rahm's father were actually related to Moshe Auerbach, the Zionist who went to Berlin with Pino Ginzburg to arrange the transfer of Jews and money to Palestine ­ with the Nazi regime.

On February 28 1937, Feivel Polkes, head of the Haganah told Adolf Eichmann that he was interested most of all in "accelerating Jewish migration to Palestine so that the Jews would obtain a majority over the Arabs in his country."

In The Secret Contacts: Zionism and Nazi Germany -1933-1941 by Klaus Polkehn, he revealed that collaboration between the Zionists and the Third Reich was cemented by the "Mossad Aliyah Beth" which had been created by Haganah as an illegal immigration organization. Pina Ginsburg and Moshe Auerbach, with the blessings of the Reich, set up offices in Berlin to carry out their immigration activities in 1938.

Here is a page from Klaus Polkehn's book.

And you wonder where Rahm Emanuel got his "chutzpah" from?
Photo: "I said before the election that if the Democrats win the House, the lion's share of the credit should go to Rahm," says Rep. Ray LaHood, an Illinois Republican. "He legitimately can be called the golden boy of the Democratic Party today. He recruited the right candidates, found the money and funded them, and provided issues for them. Rahm did what no one else could do in seven cycles."
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/
2006/11/08/AR2006110802239.html

And the fact that more than 70 percent of the American population is opposed to wasting U.S. blood and treasure to fight a Zionist war in Iraq means nothing?

ADDITIONAL RELATED ARTICLES & FORUMS DEALING WITH RAHM EMANUEL

(please copy to your computer ASAP, as this information may soon 'disappear' from the internet)

http://theuniversalseduction..com/articles/sherman-skolnick-of-
chicago-said-emanuel-was-the-head-of-the-mossad-in-the-usa-what-the

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/profiles/3392848/
Profile-Rahm-Emanuel-Barack-Obamas-new-enforcer.html

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=874797

http://foxmulder.blox.pl/2008/11/Rahmbo.html

http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/11/chief-of-staff-
rahm-emanuel-a-friend-to-pharma/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/08/obama-
rahm-emanuel-white-house

http://vindy.com/news/2008/nov/07/raum-emanuel-is-
known-for-getting-things-dones/

http://samsedershow.com/node/262

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3391

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/8968

http://www..shout.net/~bigred/cn.html

http://www.rense.com/general83/eman.htm

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message657557/pg1

11/09/2008 02:13:00 AM  
Anonymous ewastud said...

If you read Obama's first book, Dreams from My Father, it would be more apparent to you, Jeff, that he has been savvy about US government and CIA intrigues in Indonesia and elsewhere from a very early age. He is not naive, nor in anyone's "pocket." I think time will tell that Obama has synthesized a much broader knowledge and intuition about the "Deep State" and such and is quick-witted enough to avoid dangers to himself and others.

11/09/2008 02:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MONICA LEWINSKY, reportedly an espionage double-agent.

huh?

11/09/2008 03:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Belliosto also said...

Barack Obama's senior foreign policy advisers Samantha Power, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Robert Malley, and also a known influential supporter of Obama, George Soros oppose the so-called "Israel lobby" and reject the participation of American supporters of Israel, including Christians, in the foreign policy discussion.

Power writes of her willingness to

"alienate a domestic constituency of tremendous political and financial import: it may more crucially mean sacrificing...billions of dollars, not in servicing Israel's military, but actually investing in the state of Palestine."

In February of this year Zbigniew Brzezinski traveled to Damascus as the leader of a RAND Corp. delegation. Showing that politicians and intellectuals of the US are willing to openly discuss serious issues with Syria even though the official channels have been closed down.

These advisers are well known to be opposed to Israeli politics.

Senator Obama has traveled on official business with the Foreign Relations Committee in 2005 and 2006 to:

Moscow
Kiev
Baku
Azerbaijan
Qatar
Kuwait
Iraq
& Jordan

I would not jump the gun and assume Barack Obama will not be friendly to the Middle Eastern countries. Especially factions, such as the Northern Alliance, that the US is funding with hundreds of millions of dollars. We are stuck in our second Vietnam that has been caused by covert operations performed by the US government's own leaders. These friendly factions fighting Islamic terrorism are going to be our future enemies which may cause the empire to fall just like the Russian. The US government is battling it's past allies in the Middle East. On the present course it is a matter of when the present-day allies become deadly enemies to the US military and private mercenary forces. It seems that the next administration will likely be more friendlier towards Islam than towards Israel.

11/09/2008 06:19:00 AM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

Interesting thread.

@Jeff: I don't think 'the moment' ever passes. And I don't think Big O.B. is a Manchurian candidate, in the sense of hidden programming. I think he was built from the ground up, in fact. Strip it down to the frame, put 'er back together to run how you want. You don't have to put a bomb in a car to make it handle right for bootlegging whiskey.

I don't think it was any 'Chicago mob' wound up that fellow and let him go, either. I think it was a pack of Chicago School sociologists that built that child. A far more subtle tool than Bush (a three-level trick monkey), McCain (a vicious princeling with a tiny little will), or even Clinton (an intelligent cocaine scion, minor American royalty and less connected than a Kerry or McCain).

Up 'til now, the setup's been pretty followable - never totally sure what they're up to, but easy enough to see the bulges behind the curtain and hear the scuffles and curses of the stagehands as they set up, blow up, knock down props back there.

Curtain's about to rise. Obama's an Ac-Tor. Not some grunt or emcee. Now the real show begins.

Just watch out you don't wind up getting tricked into chasing the Jews down the streets after y'all done lynching up the A-rabs and getting all one of a oneness with your 'opposite' colour-types to fight the new Evil.

What a winter to be on the road again.

Enjoy the show.

R.

11/09/2008 09:21:00 AM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Jeff again: By "y'all" in my last post, I don't mean you personally. That bit was more directed at a fictional 'general American public'. I figure you knew that, but I figure I misspoke. Sorry 'bout that.

That was an interesting bit over at Secret Sun. Love those Masonic scratching-boards or whatever they were called. Pretty cool.

R.

R

11/09/2008 10:15:00 AM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

Ooo, cant leave an eight where a seven should be one.

Right?

11/09/2008 10:16:00 AM  
Blogger Loveandlight said...

And yet another rigint comment thread careens off into arcane, long-winded, and uninteresting speculation. I can see why Great Galactic Ghoul feels it's appropriate for him to regurgitate his volumes of mostly inappropriate pablum here. Oh well, it's a big Internets...

11/09/2008 10:41:00 AM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@LovelyLightLoafers:

Arcane? Check.

Long-winded? Any athlete needs a good wind. And here we break a lot of it. News I mean.

Uninteresting?Check yourself, mon. What are you doing here, iffa so BO-ring?

Of course, I do agree that there is a certain tendency to shall we say dance the f&*k around a lot here.

And Ghoul - well, there's no explaining the G, but sometimes he can be interesting enough.

Speculation? Check, times ten. Some might call it working within a highly personal theoretical framework, but then I was supposed to be given psychoactive chemicals for life and instead ran away to become a slave like the rest of you.

Having heard the thread break, I'm ready to step aside.

Dam' your Ocles anyhow if you don't wear speculations,
Lord Reptor.

11/09/2008 11:07:00 AM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@LovelyLightLoafers:

Arcane? Check.

Long-winded? Any athlete needs a good wind. And here we break a lot of it. News I mean.

Uninteresting?Check yourself, mon. What are you doing here, iffa so BO-ring?

Of course, I do agree that there is a certain tendency to shall we say dance the f&*k around a lot here.

And Ghoul - well, there's no explaining the G, but sometimes he can be interesting enough.

Speculation? Check, times ten. Some might call it working within a highly personal theoretical framework, but then I was supposed to be given psychoactive chemicals for life and instead ran away to become a slave like the rest of you.

Having heard the thread break, I'm ready to step aside.

Dam' your Ocles anyhow if you don't wear speculations,
Lord Reptor.

11/09/2008 11:08:00 AM  
Blogger Great Galactic Ghoul said...

This one on qigong Master John Chang is a must-see (life-changing information)!

http://www.mind-energy.net/archives/209-A-new-video-of-John-Chang-The-Magus-of-Java.html

11/09/2008 01:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Rodney King said...

Can't we all just get along?

JERUSALEM – Israeli police rushed into one of Christianity's holiest churches Sunday and arrested two clergyman after an argument between monks erupted into a brawl next to the site of Jesus' tomb.

The clash between Armenian and Greek Orthodox monks broke out in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, revered as the site of Jesus' crucifixion, burial and resurrection.

The brawling began during a procession of Armenian clergymen commemorating the 4th-century discovery of the cross believed to have been used to crucify Jesus.

The Greeks objected to the march without one of their monks present, fearing that otherwise, the procession would subvert their own claim to the Edicule — the ancient structure built on what is believed to be the tomb of Jesus — and give the Armenians a claim to the site.

The Armenians refused, and when they tried to march the Greek Orthodox monks blocked their way, sparking the brawl.

11/09/2008 02:32:00 PM  
Blogger dedroidify said...

Candy Crowley? What's in a name! Or a face, wtf.

11/09/2008 02:33:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis Igou said...

Give the dude a chance, he is already looking at all the bush directives and side laws. Mr. O may be a capitalist but I sure hope he is a progressive(like many here at Jeff's blog). I think most of O's decisions for the first year have already been made. What comes in the 3rd and fourth years is what could change things in this masonic nation. Hail Isis! Many of the negative responses would of been the same no mater who won. Give peace a chance. Respectfully Dennis from O.

11/09/2008 03:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Obamageddon said...

There's that word "hope" again.

11/09/2008 03:35:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Dennis I.: I think words like 'progressive' or 'capitalist' or even 'fascist' will be far too weak to describe the sort of governmental style that is likely to obtain after the Eagle has left her short-lived American nest.

I think "Stalinesque Borgonomic Slave Zone" might be closer.

Maybe you guys didn't get fooled again after all. We'll know after the swearing-in and stuff is done, I guess. Unless something big happens before then, but I doubt it.

@Obarmageddon: Hope is a vitamin. Is your skin pale and pustulous? Eat broccoli, hope won't help Somehow it keeps you alive, though. Some gland or something. Bet you could make a tasty extract of the stuff from the brains of the suffering masses.

My current hope is sufficient solvency to restart the Caves, preferably somewhere roofed (although I do have an SAS manual just in case - I could eat a rustled raw pig's liver quite easily, according to the instructions therein - a snare, a little sawing and gnawing...and back into the woods with my nutritious prize!).

So protect pig herds today...write me a check for my house so I can buy a much crappier one.

What was it freedom's just another word for? Guess North America really will be the land of the free soon...

Free in that way myself,
Lord Reptor.

P.S. Sorry for the double post earlier. Connection woes.

R.

11/09/2008 04:08:00 PM  
Blogger the author said...

The other night C-SPAN re-aired a 2005 roast of Rahm Emmanuel in Washington. The roasters included Obama himself, Hillary, and a token Republican congressman, among others. A few things we can learn about this "former" Israeli Defense Force member and son of an Irgun terrorist:

* he's coarse, violent-tempered and foul-mouthed

* he's often compared to Tony Soprano

* his childhood ballet training taught him "to leap, to spin and to [point] his feet to both the left and the right so you don't know which direction he's going" (this was Obama's joke)

* Also, Obama quipped, he mounted a first-ever ballet adaptation of Machiavelli's "The Prince"

* Arabs know him as an Israeli spy

11/09/2008 08:17:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@The Author: This Emmanuel sounds like an interesting character...

what was his last name?

Goldstein?

I've said it before and I'll say it again - be careful not to get your head caught up in the Punch and Jewdy moral play that's being run by the Team...

R.

11/09/2008 08:27:00 PM  
Blogger the author said...

But now comments for Jeff.

So, unless I'm reading too much into this: conspiracy theories are good as long as they are about evil “Right” wingers oppressing and fooling saintly “Left” wingers … but if the theorist says it’s the “Left” against the “Right” then it’s all kooky and nutty!

C'mon.

Jeff. Are you still, this late in the game, believing that phony paradigm?

And what’s with your Alex Jones-bashing fetish? (You seem to form your impressions of Jones from five-second sound bites.) Is there a rule somewhere that anybody who writes about anything conspiratorial must legitimize himself by bashing others? For every criticism of Obama, are you then required to bash “Right”-wingers to prove you’re not one of them?

Why not just deal in the truth and follow it where it leads? (Yeah, I know, I'm one of those ones who believes in such a thing as truth ... naive, unenlightened me.)

11/09/2008 10:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please, Jeff, have you had time to digest "Dreams from My Father?" In a strange but subtle way it kept reminding me of the mind of Gideon G and the way he looked at things!

11/09/2008 11:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Corrupted said...

Did more Africans 'die' under Clinton than any other US president?

The "NSSM, The Flood" Documentary - Africa's Holocaust

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZVdZ8MdPHQ

Amnesty International took out a full page ad in the NY Times last month accusing the UN Security Council of complicity in the Darfur genocide.

300,000 dead. More than 2.5 million men.women and children forced from their homes. The conflict in Darfur, Sudan continues, accompanied by some of the worst human rights abuses imaginable, including systematic and widespread rape and the abduction and murder of civilians.

In July 2007, the UN Security Council voted unanimously to deploy peacekeepers to stop the unspeakable violence in Darfur. Now, more than a year later, many UN Member States have failed to deliver on their promises.

They promised to provide enough peacekeepers to stop the violence. Promise broken.
They promised to provide helicopters and other essential equipment. Promise broken.
They promised to protect humanitarian aid workers. Promise broken.
They promised to hold perpetrators accountable for their crime. Promise broken.

As a result, millions of men, women and children remain at extreme risk from deadly violence, and those responsible for that violence remain free.

amnestyusa.org/darfur

Kryon (aka Lee Carroll, Indigo Children, Unity Church) channeling at the UN in 2007, predicts a golden age for the forthcoming African Union:


The Society for Enlightenment and Transformation (SEAT) is part of the United Nations Staff Recreational Council (UNSRC). This is a group of clubs that is sanctioned by the UN for members, guests, employees and delegates of the United Nations. On March 31, 2006 Lee Carroll was again invited to bring Kryon's message to this group. Having been there before in 1995, 96, and 98, and 2005, this 11-year anniversary of Kryon's first visit was presented in the Dag Hammarskjold Library Auditorium in the UN building in Manhattan. Again Dr. Todd Ovokaitys was Lee's guest speaker.

http://www.kryon.com/inspiritmag/scrapbooks/sb-UN-06.html

I want to talk about the AU. What is that? It's something in the future. I want to talk about the AU, which probably will not be seen for 50 years. . . two generations: The African Union. You met the doctor today, The Twist Master, I call him [Dr. Todd Ovokaitys]. He is one who will help cure the continent of Africa in this generation. For when the citizens of that great continent have health, they will then have the need for normal economies. And what you do not know and the underlying support is that there are literally trillions of what you would call dollars that are sitting and waiting to be invested in their health! There are those on Earth who also see this clearly.

These are the grand cities of the future, in the African Union. It will be a conglomeration of African states much like you see in the European Union, only bigger and more powerful, with their own securities exchanges that will rival anything the earth has ever seen, even the Chinese. Because the future resources that the world will need are in Africa, including some you have not realized yet. It is the next great frontier. And in this new energy, that continent must be cured. This is in progress, and indeed, it will be.


http://kryon.com/k_62.html

EMF Balancing Technique: Meditations for Kryon Seminar, Israel 2005

http://emfbalancingtechnique.com/media/audio_kryon_israel_2005.php


But just who are the Indigo children? The film's press release refers to Lee Carroll and Jan Tober (authors of The Indigo Children: The New Kids Have Arrived, Hay House 1999) as "internationally known experts on Indigo children" (actually, Carroll is better known as the channel for an entity known as Kyron), who blandly describe Indigos as "children who display a new and unusual set of psychological attributes" (see more here). [Note: Kyron, incredibly, encourages people to pray to be able to receive special implants that will enhance their healing/transformation/enlightenment process.]

http://www.cosmicintel.com/reviews/indigo.htm

11/10/2008 12:59:00 AM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Corrupted: ???

Chiron, huh. Creative.

R.

11/10/2008 12:12:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Corrupted again: I like your video of the wall in Palestine. Not huge on the music - a little atmospheric for me. Look for similar attractive wall features in your neighbourhood streets - coming soon!

Lord Reptor.

11/10/2008 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous E.T. said...

Chapter 13 of Firefighter's Manual is an interesting read.

Don't they know we come in peace?

11/10/2008 02:26:00 PM  
Anonymous mother earth said...

wtf???

"Fights are not uncommon in the Church of the Holy Supulchre between representatives of the various Christian sects who jealously guard their sections of and rights of access to the site."

link
link 2 w/ video

--Either another sign of the apocalypse, or...humans are so egostistical and silly it is really pathetic.

11/10/2008 02:48:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

re: the author:
absolutely.
though saying,
"And what’s with your Alex Jones-bashing fetish? (You seem to form your impressions of Jones from five-second sound bites.) Is there a rule somewhere that anybody who writes about anything conspiratorial must legitimize himself by bashing others? For every criticism of Obama, are you then required to bash “Right”-wingers to prove you’re not one of them?"
kind of over-simplifies what Jeff has done by saying that Jones is a Star Trek alien feeding on hysteria....
'yer losin me jeff.
completely and respectfully disagree.
you must not be really listening to Jones.
he has a show every day except saturday.
infowars.com
(listen)

11/10/2008 03:59:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

most people have better things to do than listen to Alex Jones everyday.
but I find the time.
Jeff bashes Jones, to be sure
It's funny because Jeff then goes on to say, "But it's neither that complicated nor so ridiculous, is it? Real history, even in the living of it, isn't a seamless narrative that enfolds all events into a single narrator's construct. As recently as September, I thought there was no clear path for an Obama victory. Still, the election didn't need to be staged, not with a vetting process designed to winnow out all contenders who don't know what and to who they owe, who might do something, even by chance, that could divest the true rulers of their rule."
No it's not that ridiculous is it?
so why do you put Jones down the way you do, so often?
hhhhmmmmm?

11/10/2008 04:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have found with some people that any criticism of Jones is met with a no-holds-barred rejection as if the person is working as a militia man fighting the elite as a soloist with a network of ghost allies. The more that you try to point out any suspicious influences, and I mean try, it is most difficult to communicate with the avid listeners of his radio show since they usually want to do all the talking just like the journalist leader Jones, the more you prompt an attitude of honorable warriormanship. Like being the only one in town that has the knowledge of what is going on must be the Jones radio show listener. His leadership must never be questioned because that shows a sign of unpreparedness in the fight and therefore a possible deranking in influence and the NWO wins. By listening to the radio show I have discovered that the person becomes more arrogant and the mindset is like the listener is Conan the Barbarian. A lonely voice tackling on all attacks by witless NWO servants. Like they just don't understand.

I first listened to his show on October 2000. I have met a lot of people in person who listened to his show over the years. I know several friends who listen to his show regularly. I have met Jones and his wife in Mesquite, TX. The men I worked with in TX worked with him and our organization was endorsed by Clayton Douglass who I have also met.

I have posted this before and there is a lot of knowledge available on the web on suspicious influences of Jones. Again he had shared all the knowledge that anybody needed to know about the Bush family in 2000. He confronted Gov. Bush in TX with questions about the CFR, TC, and BBerg. He stated for months on his show that Gore and Bush were the same in condemnation of the two-party system and all the corruption involved in politics. Then he declared to his listeners that Bush was the better choice and most of his listeners voted for Bush as well. One of my friends who voted for Bush in 2000, because of Jones, calls me narrow-minded and was the first in line to condemn Bush as president. I did not vote Bush in 2000 and he believes I am narrow-minded because I state that it is strange that Jones would do something like vote for Bush. It was okay for an individual to vote Bush but condemn Jones for encouraging someone to vote Bush WATCH OUT.

It was as if this person's mind had lulled during the presidential elections in 2000. Then after he got the get go by Jones to vote Bush his mind totally went blank. After the elections he got back up to speed and went right back to condemning Bush all over again. I have found it next to impossible to explain any possible corruption going on in the Jones camp because these people simply do not want to know about it. If you are serious-minded about any possible corruption that may be reality with Jones I highly suggest that you do your own research into that. A perspective on this may take years to catch on to.

11/10/2008 10:05:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis Igou said...

Alex Jones is whack. It is his way or the high way. Too much Xtian inane garbage. Some of his articles seem to be somewhat correct on an international level, but for the most part he is an agent of the neo cons. His side kick is whack also. Who needs any more neo-con spittle. Neo-cons are afraid of their own shadow. Smoke and mirrors for the empire. Bread and circus's for my braindead neo-cons. Dennis from Oregon.

11/10/2008 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most of the posters know about the NWO, CFR, TC, FBI, CIA, ATF, etc...but who is involving themselves with the most difficult solutions to prevent any kind of corruption that may arrive in your backyard? The key is prevention and most people all the world over do nothing until it is in their own backyard. By that time it is too late. You can talk about corruption until your voice is gone. Are you going to apply whatever knowledge you may have to a solution to it? I have found that most people are for solutions that may work only in principle. Very few people involve themselves in solution based activities. Like a lot of short wave listeners believe that it is too corrupted to do anything about political problems and so educate, educate, educate on the hopelessness of this and watch videos and believe others are able to work your concerns out for you. Believe me there is not a single reason for anyone to feel an ounce of guilt because of that. If you have involved yourself with politics then you may understand that there is no reason to feel guilty because you have done nothing about it. There are many videos, books, magazine articles, newsletters, etc... that we can use to better understand corruption but if you do not do anything about that don't let someone convince you that you need to feel guilty about that. That's rubbish. Many, many people have faced corruption in their lives and the reality of it is that we must face this alone. Bottom line. If you have friends to help you that's a plus. Feeling guilty is not a good reason to get involved with any activity. You should involve yourself with a solution-based endeavor because you want to. Not because it is easy to do but because you believe that it can work.

11/10/2008 11:00:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Anony...
you are lying about Jones endorsement of Bush.
yer fulla shit dude.
I've been listening to Jones since 2000, so don't tell me this utter bullshit you're spewing.
Jones isn't some spook insider.
He just reads.

11/10/2008 11:23:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

and denise fron oregon..
what the fuck did you just huff?
neo-con? Alex Jones.
har de fucking har.
you people are cloo-less.

11/10/2008 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fletcher I don't believe that you have been listening to Jones since 2000 on short wave. This vote by Jones is yesterday's news. Another response I got about this issue was that Jones voted for a minor party president. Who do you think he voted for in 2000 fletcher? I consider this a petty issue. But your condemnation of it proves that it may not be. Is it important to you that he voted for Bush or not in 2000?

11/10/2008 11:46:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Fletcher and Anonymouse The Septillionth: I've only seen Alex Jones' things a couple of times. He strikes me as an earnest, not-hugely-intelligent fellow who is quite sure that he is On To Something and, as a result of his personal force and conviction, has become successful and maybe feels a little important.

Kind of guy that it's easy to trick, easy to use. All that energy and conviction - makes the fellow easy to re-direct. It's like judo (I've got that great set of Koga throws on Doldovision - what a judoka!). Give me a shove, I'll use it to twist your arm.

Wonder if Jones is getting his arm twisted these days. Being a bone of contention is a sad fate for journalists. Eats their career away.

Jest wonderin',
Lord Reptor.

11/11/2008 12:32:00 PM  
Blogger Great Galactic Ghoul said...

Yeah it exists -- listen to Pygmy music. The best c.d. is the one I recommended here -- Songs of the Forest -- or something produced by Ellipse Records I think. Anyway there's thumb piano on there which is a nice connection to the congotronics stuff, but the Pygmy "antiphonal" singing is immediately healing and the rhythm has no one dominance -- it flows for perfect trance.

Last night I had this amazing flying dream. The full moon energy was strongest since it's 3 days before hand. The dream was inspired by my staring at this TRON figure on a poster at work -- he was flying up and I thought that's what I wanted to do. That was about half a week ago and I never thought it'd happen.

But then I discovered this totally amazing chapter on Stefan Ossowiecki in the Secret Vaults of Time by Stephan A. Schwartz. It's a REALLY well-written psychic archaeology book and Ossowiecki was trained by a Jew who has spent most of his life in India studying yoga.

11/11/2008 05:29:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Jones is um, outside the false left-right paradigm and has been for a long long time. You'd know that if you ever really listened to his show or watched one of his many fine documetaries. just wikipedia him if you want to learn about the guy begore you make up your mind about hgim at least.
I have been listening to the Alex Jones show since actually 1999 on his radio program. I don't have a short wave radio, dude. But now i listen via streaming internet. Just go to www.infowars.com and listen. You know you want to Jeff..
I was listening when he predicted 9/11 and the current financial "crisis".
He's not just some tool Reptor.
He's actually good at what he does.
You just have to be open-minded enough to get past his texan drawl and see his "outbursts" for what they are...raw emotional response at the atrocity of modern government.

11/11/2008 07:44:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

ha "begor hgim"
ha ha.
begus?

11/11/2008 07:46:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

@Reptor again regarding your comments on Jones feeling "important"
you think it's FUN being Alex Jones????
I wouldn't want to be that guy for one second.

11/11/2008 07:49:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

@ Reptor
Jones' energy isn't focused as an easily parried strike, a judo throw,
no in fact his is more akin to a sniper rifle...with a bullhorn.

11/11/2008 07:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Fletcher: Jones seems like a good journalist, and quite a bulldog. He's treading in the patches of dangerous and extremely intelligent folks, though.

Same goes for Rivero.

Just my 2. Have a good night. Storming wild here, rain and gusts.

Lord Reptor.

11/11/2008 08:32:00 PM  
Blogger Great Galactic Ghoul said...

"It is clear to me that Chunyi Lin is a very powerful practitioner of this important method of dealing with human energies." Neil Kay, M.D., Professor of Medicine, Mayo Clinic College of Medicine, Rochester, Minnesota.

11/11/2008 09:00:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

@ 3g:
TRON figure??
sweet mang.
I have a sweet japanese tron poster.

11/11/2008 09:31:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis Igou said...

Mr Fletcher, my name is Dennis not Denise. I have studied your posts for a couple years. Your latest posts have aligned you with Alex Jones. What redeeming values does Jones present to you? His constant psycho paranoid pretense is far more than is healthy or is he An agent of dubious alligence. So one day he interviews a nut case and another day interviews Ron Paul. He is Whack and so are you. It is the spun monkey, ignorant selfcentered Strassian talking heads that I consider neo con nut jobs. An spokesman of racist,facist, and holier than thou xtian psycho babble is what Jones is. You Fletcher have showed your cards. You Fletcher are whack. Dennis.

11/11/2008 09:34:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

@ Reptor:
batten down the hatches land lubber!
yeah, it's dangerous work that Jones does for sure. he's talked about the death threats he's gotten and how he doesn't care!!
A true Renegade!!
Yar!
he3's well aware of the messianic figure he's become to some and denounces it at every turn, professes his ultimate humanity before the crushing system of America and the coming global one world government...
the era of transition.
Obama can usher it all in.
Jones is certainly in the hotseat to keep his listeners though, now that the evil Bush regime is about to change hands...but not really..and Jones has pointed out Obama's new cabinet forming as a rather ominous thing..

11/11/2008 09:36:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

all rather not so ridiculous really...
rather benign.
did I "show my hand" for being on the side of someone who's completely reasonable in his work to expose the New World Order?
Alex Jones is really the enemy right?
please.
I'm "wack" eh?
O. K. you inane fool.

11/11/2008 09:41:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Deniss, respectfully,
you show your cards as being completely ignorant of alex Jones by your inane question, "His constant psycho paranoid pretense is far more than is healthy or is he An agent of dubious alligence." (?)
whatever. "an agent of dubious allegiance" eh?
stop pulling shit out of your ass that makes no sense and is inane speculation.
Jones certainly is On To Something folks. wake up and listen. So many people want to bash him for no other reason than Jeff pointed to him as someone akin to a Star Trek alien who feeds off of hysteria. Please.
How can you actually say that?!
he's really pretty damn close to everything that Jeff espouses as his views on the NWO and the Occult deep politics CIA mind control...etc. They're really pretty much almost on the same page.
Alex and Jeff need to get together and go bowling.

11/11/2008 09:54:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

oh except, Jones won't talk about UFOs so much. There's not enough proof.

11/11/2008 09:57:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis Igou said...

Fletcher, my name is Dennis not Deniss. You seem all worked up about this Alex Jones faux news. What is your affinity to a renegade like Jones. Glittering generalities of a parinoid nature. Scared of anything and anybody. Fear is his dominion, much like the neo cons. You are quite inane to support such an alarmist. Spelling my name incorrectly is your ignorant way to be-little my post. Such a small mind you have. Dennis.

11/11/2008 10:14:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Dennis:
So,Alex Jones is
an alarmist?!
well... just maybe you need to WAKE UP!

11/12/2008 12:04:00 AM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

Who said Jeff doesn't read the
comments..?

11/12/2008 03:06:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

There is no left and right in an oligarchy. As I write, Paulson is live on the netwerks moving his 700 billion "rook" to one of the black squares. A couple of pawns are in the line of fire and only the bishop's soup kitchen will forestall their demise.

11/12/2008 10:47:00 AM  
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11/12/2008 01:49:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Ericswan: Oligarchy? A couple of pawns? I think you’re waaaay too optimistic, actually.

Try feudal/statist Balkanized wreckage. If we're lucky. There are some black, black clouds on the horizon, this winter and the next few...years, decades, heck, I doubt I'll see the end of it all. I have the misfortune of getting front-row seats for all the economic and social fun coming up this winter (and for the foreseeable, really).

My life's timing couldn't be better. Unable to earn (somebody buy a short story!), still in debt, and just look at the damn headlines. Sigh.

Motherf&*(ker! Getting old, and on the road again in the winter of '09 - I mean the Long Winter Of Nine, sunny. What are the odds on crippled, penniless malcontents with crooky white hairs poking horribly suddenly out of their beard making it through this winter? Ever hear the tune Aqualung? Wanna bet on my survival? I'll take some wild odds, but I'll warn you, I've got a survival manual and a will of iron (steel doesn't rust like that).

Well, SK is the target. I like what I see there ($15-50K for good lodging, decent communities, and actual acreages at those prices), and I have to jump - can't hold this place up no more, light though the burden's been. Somebody buy the damn thing so I can get a roof before global cooling gets me!

The cat will be fine. Probably feast on my corpse at the side of the road to stay fat until someone finds her and she hits ‘em with the cute ray.

@Fletcher: I'm not saying Jones isn't a good journalist and doing important work. I'm just saying that we can all get played, and a man in a position like his is in the sights of some subtle, vicious, motherless monsters. He's a good source of information, but everyone has a set of keys - and you can never see the one who has 'em, even if everyone else around you can. Watch out for the heavy disinfo plays to activate as things get crazy. Even the best sources can be compromised.

G-damn, clock's running out. I have to go visit the garden. What fine weather for the times this is, howling grey with shafts of light and spattering rain..

Cranking Stone Roses and off to try to smoke in the lovely storm (I got a feeling I better get used to this outdoorsy sh*t again quick anyway),
Lord Reptor.

11/12/2008 01:56:00 PM  
Blogger the author said...

Anon @ 10:05:

Your eight-year-old impression of Alex Jones needs updating. He's pretty easy to find. Alex himself talks quite frequently about his progression over the years from a pretty standard conservative Republican, to a "right-winger," to what he is now, a nonpartisan, independent seeker and voice for truth. I myself have made roughly the same progression, though perhaps at a slightly younger age than Alex.

Yet, even in the spring of 2001 when I first stumbled across his radio program, he was telling us Bush was an NWO minion just like Clinton before him. He was also predicting, by the way, that They were getting ready to unleash a false flag terror event. I would say that he was onto something.

I could see him saying "Bush is the least evil choice between two evils," but I highly doubt he actually urged his listeners to go vote for Bush. I also highly doubt that you were able to ascertain that "most of his listeners voted for Bush as well."

DENNIS IGOU: Anyone who'd call Jones an "agent of the neocons" needs to a) listen to him or read his site, and b) learn what a neocon is.

Look, my defense of the guy is not from some sort of cult loyalty. I defend anybody who speaks for the truth and against lies. As much as I disagree with Jeff Wells in some respects of his faulty political paradigm, I would defend him against wanton slander as well. My defense is more about the truth than about an individual. A favorite tactic of the enemy is to discredit the message by attacking the messenger.

But of course, I care about individuals too. Frankly, I do identify with Alex because we're the same age and our gradual awakenings have taken us pretty much down the same path.


LORD REPTOR: I don't feel Alex is "self-important," just an intense personality who puts himself on the front line. He is a classic ADHD workaholic who needs high stimulation all the time. He drives himself to exhaustion with all this stuff, as he frequently mentions on his program. How do I know about this? I'm a very similar temperament.

When he is unfairly attacked, he tends to sometimes vent about it on the air. And while it is comparatively speaking, a small part of his on-air time, personally, I wish he would just ignore the attacks and talk about the issues. But everyone's human.

"Not highly intelligent" depends on your definition of intelligence. The man is a communicator, not an ivory tower dweller. It requires some sort of intelligence to internalize vast encylopedias of knowledge and then synthesize it, make connections between it all. It's not "rocket surgery" (that phrase comes courtesy of my sometimes tongue-tied boss). It's not highly specialized micro-knowledge, which usually gets all the rewards in our society. Being a generalist takes a different kind of intelligence.

-a frickin a m e r i c a n

11/12/2008 01:57:00 PM  
Blogger the author said...

Fletcher says about Jones:

he3's well aware of the messianic figure he's become to some and denounces it at every turn,..


Yeah. Like every day on his show, Alex is saying "I AM NOT YOUR LEADER!" He puts himself down, talks about how he's a barbarian with a pot belly who walks hunched over. He tells people to go out and be their own leader. And yet, what does he get for his efforts? He gets attacked as an egomaniac who wants to be everybody's leader. You can't win. People will believe whatever warped version of truth they want to believe.

The fact that anybody is talking about Alex Jones is testimony to why Truth at present is losing. People want to talk about personalities rather than issues.

"Denise" is some kind of tool/troll. Don't even waste the time.

11/12/2008 02:11:00 PM  
Blogger the author said...

Left-right polytricks in a nutshell.

The terms Left and Right have been used to refer to political affiliation since the early part of the French Revolutionary era. They originally referred to the seating arrangements in the various legislative bodies of France, specifically in the French Legislative Assembly of 1791, when the king was still the formal head of state, and the moderate royalist Feuillants sat on the right side of the chamber, while the radical Montagnards sat on the left.[1]


Sounds real relevant to American politics in 2008, doesn't it.


...Originally, the defining point on the ideological spectrum were the attitudes towards the ancien régime ("old order"). "The Right" thus implied support for aristocratic, royal, or clerical interests, while "The Left" implied opposition to the same. At that time, support for socialism and liberalism were regarded as being on the left. The earlier "left-wing" politicians were advocates of laissez faire capitalism[citation needed] and the "right-wing" politicians opposed it, until the early nineteenth century when anti-capitalism gained favour among the leftists due to the rise of socialism. ...

In Great Britain at that time, Edmund Burke (now generally described as a conservative)[4] held similar economic views to this first French Left. Nonetheless, he strongly criticized their anti-clericalism and their willingness to turn to mob violence for support and to overturn institutions of long standing. Burke's Reflections on the Revolution in France criticized the Left as excessively rationalistic and disrespecting of the wisdom of tradition.[5]

During the French Revolution, the definition of who was on the left and who on the right shifted greatly within only a few years.



Blah blah blah. As the definition continues to shift today, depending on whom is defining and for what purpose. This is a recipe for confusion. As it happens, the Establishment is all about keeping the people confused, which is why they continue to use this "left-right" recipe with great success. You can fool people when you use words of ambiguous or shifting meanings to disguise the underlying reality. "Left" and "right" and "liberal" and "conservative" are such words. No one can define what a liberal is. no one can define conservative. There is no distinct platform to either. And today's definition of either word will be starkly different from a definition of 60, 70 or 80 years ago, when the original institutions or movements were founded. They are meaningless. Worse, they cover up meanings.

Then there is the deeper truth of who controls the institutions and policies. The Money Power has controlled both "Left" and "right" in the US, Britain and Canada for a long, long time. Movements are but vehicles for those in power to use. Ideas that might hold liberatory power get quickly co-opted and re-directed to keep the power in the hands of the Few.

Henry Makow quotes from Carroll Quigley's "Tragedy and Hope" and adds his own commentary:

According to Quigley, the ultimate goal is "nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled ...by the central banks...acting in concert." (324)

Quigley confirms that the bankers have usurped mankind's collective instincts by financing the Socialist and Communist movements. Bankers love big government because the ultimate monopoly is the State. Through it, they can take over their competition and control debt, resources, market demand and labor.

Speaking of the Communist takeover of the US government in the 1930's and 1940's, Quigley writes, "it must be understood that the power that these energetic left-wingers exercised was never their own power of Communist power but was ultimately the power of the international financial coterie." (954)

In other words, millions of idealists committed to human brotherhood and equality were (and are) duped into advancing a totalitarian scheme to concentrate wealth and power in the hands of the super rich. More savvy Leftists, Communists, Feminists and Globalists continue to prosper while unctuously pretending to serve humanity.

The Money Power controls the debate and encourages gridlock by backing all political shades and marginalizing anyone who shines the spotlight on them. (Ever wonder why Noam Chomsky never mentions international bankers and the credit system?) The media is controlled through direct ownership and advertising.

Quigley writes: "To Morgan all political parties were simply organizations to be used, and the firm always was careful to keep a foot in all camps. Morgan himself, Dwight Morrow and other partners were allied with the Republicans; Russell C. Lewffingwell was allied with the Democrats; Grayson Murphy was allied with the extreme Right; and Thomas W. Lamont was allied with the Left." (945)

The Lamont family was "sponsors and financial angels to almost a score of extreme Left organizations including the Communist Party itself." (945)

"It must be recognized that the power these energetic Left-wingers exercised was never their own power or Communist power but was ultimately the power of the international financial coterie ..."

If you're going to have a horse race, it helps if you own all the horses. The same powers that be own the "right" and "left." It's all about Power, and focusing it via collectivist instruments: through state collectivism, through corporate collectivism, through religious collectivism. Mechanisms that collect power from its rightful repositories -- individuals, families, communities, the local level -- and focus that power upwards to small hierarchies who then wield that power for their own benefit. Whatever it may call itself -- left, right, conservative, liberal, communist, fascist -- the mechanism is the same and the ultimate goal is the same.

-- a frickin american

11/12/2008 02:52:00 PM  
Blogger the author said...

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11/12/2008 03:04:00 PM  
Blogger the author said...

By the way, re: left/right: two friends of mine used to describe themselves as socialists (one of them traveled to Cuba several years ago) but more recently found themselves checking out Ron Paul as a candidate. These lines are breaking down. PEople are thinking outside the cage ...
One of those friends, though, did break down and vote for Obama in the general election. She felt her vote would be wasted on a 3rd party candidate ... and Obama was her former next-door-neighbor, so she felt some kind of obligation. I told her that a vote for Obama in Chicago, where it would not make a difference anyway, was truly a wasted vote.

11/12/2008 03:10:00 PM  
Blogger the author said...

Mark --

re the Skolnick material: God rest his soul. What a character he was.

I met the guy in the '90s when I was in college. I ran the Op-Ed page of our college paper one semester and I used it to reprint some of Skolnick's stuff re: the OJ Simpson case. I wanted to give him exposure and get people thinking. You know, give them a taste of conspiracy thought. I went to see a taping of his program at Chicago Access and he and his buddy treated me, a complete stranger, to dinner at a Greek restaurant. We talked about a lot of stuff, even about the "militia" type folks I was also hanging out with at the time. (There was a particular group I used to frequent at the time -- the weirdest assortment of people. Militia folks, survivalists, libertarians, UFO believers, New Agers, STelle Community folk, LaRouchies. They had guests like David Icke before he had any real national exposure, and before the Web really exploded.)

Yet I still could not figure out where Skolnick was coming from or whether those anonymous sources were all real and all telling the truth. Was he being manipulated? Who knows. Yet it seems that for all the absurd constraints that exist upon journalists -- all the reasons why you're not allowed to really tell the truth, or to even really look for it -- someone like Skolnick served a purpose. He was the guy other journalists could confide in with their otherwise unprintable/unairable scoops. He was also "safe" from the Establishment perspective that he was flamboyant, wheelchair-bound and somewhat goofy in appearance. Who'd believe a guy like that?

11/12/2008 03:12:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

$%$*&%^% Internet provider! What is this, Australia? Let my packets free, you b*st*rd m*th*r*u*k*rs!!!!!

@Fletcher: By "not hugely intelligent" (re: A. Jones), I mean "probably around 115-120" in a ring where 220 on the Wechsler is a trim fighting weight. I wouldn't put my money on the guy, even though I certainly cheer him on in his efforts. One reason I'll never be a rebel leader or secret soldier or soapbox doom-siren is that I know my limits. Not to say that I won't respond situationally to the best of my moral and mental ability if the chips are down, but I don't want to waste my life or get it wasted.

I know one person (OLD family friend) who tips the scales at over 220. Know what she does? She runs a freakin' alternative energy facility in California while raising her selected-stud-sperm baby as a solo mom home-schooler and packing away offshore land. I think today's Thomas Jefferson is going to have to be a genetic one-in-a-million, and well armed to boot.

I pull in a strangely unbalanced 131. Something went very wrong with my spatial relations and very right with my abstract reasoning...plus I broke the scale on pattern recognition, which was FUN. I'd love to meet the designers of the final screens in that section.

I know very well all I'm good for is poetry, prose (working hard...), and menial labour, and I appreciate the world around me with some excellent senses. None of which I would like extinguished by hot irons in a dungeon.

If I can ever get this post up, it will probably be about the last remotely subversive crap I ever publish. At least, until things look a little brighter. I've got stories, a play, and a lot of legal-type letters (yikes) to write. I have no assets and am unarmed (other than my walking stick), and I intend to try to find a place from which to watch things.

Conversationally yours,
Lord Reptor.

11/12/2008 03:23:00 PM  
Blogger the author said...

and yes Lord R:

"Goldstein" may be right. Who knows? There are many layers to the onion of globalist power. Some say the Rothschilds run it all. Some say the Black Pope runs it all and the Rothschilds -- who in turn are over such as the Rockefellers -- are just front men. There are more complex theories involving complex interweaving secret lodges and unknown men in Tibet. Who knows. But Emanuel is more than he purports to be.

11/12/2008 04:02:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@The Author: Whatever their names, lodges, and places, our shepherds are starting to look like abusive parents that we need to outgrow.

We'll visit them in the care home after we've built a decent (and I mean spiritually decent) AI to decide what to do next.

Meantime, let's get busy developing some properly designed social protocols. Adaptive, decentralized, responsive - as much like the Net as trade and military protocols can be made to look.

R.

11/12/2008 04:43:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

Ah, Nine. A fine note on which off to sign.

11/12/2008 04:44:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis Igou said...

The author, snug with his prejudices, once Republican and then an avid Jones apology troll. You must know your fears and how to project them, just like Jones. I am an aging hippy of 54 years, long hair and an avid fan of holy ganga fire. Jones can cry wolf and you would kill all the puppies. If the global elite ran things and everything around us is a prison planet, how is it that I control my property/ have many friends and everything around me is just beautiful?. You "the author" must live in a city of prison like propernsities, and you control nothing resembling a life. The end is always with us because nobody get's outta here alive. Mortality is always with us beings. Give fear a break and live your life free. Jone is a racist and a god fearing baby of a man.Respectfully, Dennis

11/12/2008 04:58:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Uh...moving on?
K.
re: the author...
good show what!
You said it all really, about Jones.
It's not rocket surgery Reptor, you don't need a 220 IQ to make the connections. And Jones' way of seeing the connections...is usually pretty damn on point.
Disinfo? sure it's possible. That's why you use Jones as a weapon in your arsenal, you don't worship the guy. People assume that you do worship him if you defend him, like the author has so eloquently and succinctly done in pointing out, and Jones' shortcomings, his self-image...he's real, a real human being trying to do what is right, exposing the Evil in our world.
could he be intentionally misled? I doubt it.
But let's just say that were to happen..
It's possible Jones' police state "fear mongering" could seem obsessively excessive at times,. Though you'd probably be pretty upset if Martial Law was implemented.
And the form of control will probably be far more insidious than what Jones has yet talked about but probably imagined..
Like in Terminator where the machines exterminate the humans...!

11/12/2008 05:31:00 PM  
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11/12/2008 06:36:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

and i think you meant to say "smug" instead of "snug"
Dennis.
and it's not smugness in any of this knowledge that holds it firm in our psyches, or in Jones' it's the rebellious force at work in humanity--the rebelliousness that can never be fully suppressed.
Jones is one of those few who dare to speak out against the powers and principalities, because he knows that this is our struggle.
smugly-not snugly-
-fletcher

11/12/2008 06:42:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Rahmbo Emanuelle's domestic service..securecore..americore..training high schoolers w/ m-16s and things that sound reasonable at first...

11/12/2008 09:07:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Obama has spoken of his domestic civil service program that's just as well funded..etc..
it's funny.
the obama wear I see the kids wearing...
can you imagine Hitler on a Tshirt that kids wear?
I feel a psychic shudder when i see the shirts w/ Obama on 'em.

11/12/2008 09:11:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

let alone ANY president on a Tshirt for KIDS!!!???
it truly is bizzaro world we're livin in...
having a conversation with mahself again,
-fletcher

11/12/2008 09:13:00 PM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

Hey Dennis,
You "control" your
property? Sure you do..right up
until the point you stop paying
your taxes. You are free..to obey.
Did you vaccinate your kids when the school lied to you and
told you there was a law that
required you to do so?
Whoops..! Hope not..Shit, most
of us did though. Yep, free and in
"control". Free to enjoy the
Great Outdoors..
"Hey,..whats that?"
"Whats what..?"
"What is that..? Is that a jet..?
Spraying shit? What the Fuck is
that.!?! All over the property
I control..!! Mothafu..!!"

11/13/2008 02:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous One,Am I here in time for the pissen match?This fucken blue orb is about to be sucked into continuous Monoform Programing and we are debating the fucken merits of AJ?From where I'm standing it looks like game over folks,signal to noise ratio is over the top,hold on to your seats,Psy-Ops In The Twenty First Century is apon us all.I wonder what will come out of this weekend,what kind of mind fuck they will pullout of this G20 clusterfuck in DC,you realize the Occult city is being charged up for something very special.Bring in the most evil blood sucken bastards can leed to nothing good,maybe Bush will bring out an unbaptized baby for a real show topper.There has to be blood for any ritual to work,so keep your little ones close,you know Hunter wrote about this time of the season,later.

11/13/2008 06:38:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

This from compared2what? over at the board re; Alex Jones....

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=21431&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

".... it doesn't matter if he's right or wrong about anything. The information he supplies is just packaging. The real product is the high you get while consuming it, and that's a mind-numbing obstacle to thought no matter what his agenda is or how accurate his basis for pushing it is.

Just say no."

It is the whole ego polishing game that we all need to get over. Reactive mind inhibits awareness. That voice in your head is not you, no need to let it own you.

11/13/2008 09:20:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

I have to drag this old canard out one more time. Chemtrails block out the sun. That has to stop. Alex Jones and all the rest of us are being watched by time travellers. The watchers are being watched. I would like to "spill the beans" but I'm not allowed. Go figure.

11/13/2008 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous One,Ericswan,how close you are,last night they sprayed us real heavy,all to the light of the moon,I don't think to many noticed around here in Syracuse NY,they are to busy watching dancing with the stars to give a shit about someone try to control what little mind they have left.Maybe after the shape shifting bastards show themselfs,we will wake up,sorry to late,"when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro",later.

11/13/2008 11:35:00 AM  
Blogger just_another_dick said...

My God, the Republicans were right. Obama's pushing his "socialist agenda" and he hasn't even been sworn in yet.

"Nov. 13 (Bloomberg) -- President-elect Barack Obama is pushing Congress this year to approve as much as $50 billion to save cash-starved U.S. automakers and appoint a czar or board to oversee the companies, a move that would require President George W. Bush's support, people familiar with the matter said."


Oh gee, my bad. It looks like it's more of the same socialism for corporate America that's always been the forte of "free market" America.


Since Obama needs to appoint a "czar" to oversee the auto makers, maybe he could transfer Josh Gotbaum from his transition team.

Of course, Josh wasn't exactly well loved by the airline industry.


"In a scathing, 72-page report filed yesterday in U.S. Bankruptcy Court, the airline said Josh Gotbaum was a failure as chief executive officer, had little to do with the airline's successful reorganization and alienated the company's unionized workers.

"Gotbaum attempts to support his unprecedented request for a bonus ... by overstating the results achieved in this Chapter 11 case, understating the value of the debtor when he was appointed, grossly exaggerating his role in the Chapter 11 case by taking credit for the accomplishment of others and completely ignoring the massive fees and expenses to be paid to the cadre of professionals he engaged to achieve those results," Hawaiian's attorney Eric Winston wrote.

"Gotbaum simply is not entitled to any bonus.""


Hey Doc, do think that this is what Dennis means by "in control?"


Of course, others may refer to it as a typical day in fascist clusterfuck land.


word verification: cultic

How appropriate.

11/13/2008 12:10:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

Anony the One Mouse: Bingo.

@Fletch: Nah, evabody still talkin. Unless the AIs are good enuff to ackchally mimic chsat.

We'll know when the big offline cometh - 'cause there'll be no proper Net then. Just the Global Dow and Public News and 'Private' mail.

I don't think that was sudbvertsieve. Find out iffa ma singal go out some mo.


R.

PS - Cultic - cool - I've had some doozies mysel' - Google-Beast be smart.

11/13/2008 02:28:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Ericswan: Hey, maybe Jeff and Secret Sun Guy's instinct to put Brand O in a Star Trek uni...time travellers....naaaahhh...but you saw the episode where the rogue starship crew recreated Nazi Germany on another world by releasing and using tech selectively?

Ooh, what a pretty idea. Ho ho ha. Better even than shapeshifters.

My fave is still Phil Dick's little riff on humans as a bio-weapon in a galaxy-wide war of planetary conquest between insects and spiders....we're a created, unaware ally of spiderdom, spraying pesticides everywhere, wiping out fleets of bugs...

But seriously - maybe the PTB will pull an Obama=V out of the bag.

Frankly, that would rock.

Reptor out.

11/13/2008 02:35:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

Yes indeed.

Damn yeah. What a use for all those old UFO's leaking radiation up at Thule....

11/13/2008 02:36:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

I've got it! Big O is a time-travelling starship trooper who will salvage our hidden Nazi tech (delivered from the future in an unsuccessful effort to stop the shapeshifters in '37)....


And he'll fly the lead UFO against the Invaders himself!
Seven by seven by seven....

11/13/2008 02:38:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis Igou said...

I visited Thule while in the Air Force. The Ballistic rocket warning sites were a trip. Guys tooling around with golf carts in huge caverns of buildings. It was quite a trip getting there in a kc-135. I had the opportunity to sit in the droge position( one that delivers the gas to the bombers) while over frozen northern Canada. I knew some one with a brain would pick up on Jones's alarmist prattle as being unhealthy and destructive. Sounder you are spot on. The rest of you Alex Jones baby men should listen to Sounders Post. See if anything fits. Quit watching the Unit and CSI and look at the future with hope.Make things better, and be ready to dig in if necessary. I understand much of Alex's agnst. His message is whack. And you who peruse his site, do not often understand his vitirol is going nowhere. An alarmist baby boy. Dennis

11/13/2008 02:57:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Dennis,
I highly
and I stress, HIGHLY
doubt that you were in the air force or visited Thule.
I say that not because I don't think you're smart enough to be in the Air Force. I just don't buy it.
.......The same way i doubt you have long hair or are 54 years old or ever smoked ganja.
I bet you're 19, overweight, secretly into leather and whips and you love playing World of Warcraft and listening to Rush Limbaugh.
You're use of the term "wack"
is so inane it almost doesn't deserve a comment.
But too late.
your efforts to "expose" jones
are really what are in fact, um, "wack".
You keep refering to:
"Jones's alarmist prattle as being unhealthy and destructive"
Dude, you are such a waste of time, a moron or someone who thinks they're some kind of "insider"...please.
You really think that he's unhealthy? Aw is your fragile psyche unable to habndle the vast cognative dissonance that Jones cause you? Awwwwww. poor baby.
So you feel the need to strike out against him.
It's obvious.

and you want to discredit him SO bad...
but you can't.
You just keep making these
asinine statements
about him being an alarmist.
back that one up with one example.
you can't can you? Nor will you.
Because it depends on how far you have your head stuck up your ass--I mean the sand, to call Jones an "alarmist" Obviously you doubt that the NWO is a real thing. Jones is too much information for your puny intellect. Maybe when you get to be that fantasy
54 year old long haired ganja smokin douchebag, maybe then you'll get high enough to be introspective enough to see how you were actually wrong about Jones.
I've had this discussion on RI soooooooooo many times over the years. At times I've just sat back, uninterested to get involved, but I can't sit back and let the baseless ridicule of AJ go unanswered.
And the Obama issue is what this post is about, RIGHT??
Does anyone but me ever even listen to AJ??
He's talking about Obama on his show every day.
You want hope??
Get real.
Man am I confident in my defense
of Jones. That worries me.
I am not usually so sure about anything.

11/13/2008 03:29:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Dennis: Get your lazy, worthless Yankee a** back up here and wipe up all that fuel you spilled.

Control of property indeed! Only the part you don't tithe to the local, regional, and global Owners who have the real deed to your land and indeed your aforespoken hinderpart.

Doubt me? Try selling your neighbour some tobacco from your garden and a slaughtered chicken from your coop.

Try making and selling some ammo.

See what happens to ya.

I mean, just sayin.

Lord R.

11/13/2008 03:35:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Fletcher: Hey! Old long-haired smoky gents of the world doth protest your, um, sort of nasty talk about us there!

Smoke you under the table, sonny!

R.

11/13/2008 03:38:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Fletcher again: Heh. Kinda wish I'd done the leather thing as a younger fella.

R.

11/13/2008 03:41:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

Ooh, Eleven Thirteen!

Gotta mean something.

R.

11/13/2008 03:42:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Reptor!
Sorry man, I was merely angry at the airs being put on by Dennis, posing as a long haired pot smoker...
Because i doubt he really IS.
the D-bag thing in no way was reflective of someone who's in their 50's, has long hair, and smokes weed.
That's TOTALY cool in my book. PRETENDING you're old, long haired and a pothead..now that's just insulting to those of us who..wait..what was i saying?
I mean it just seems so contrived. I mean he just happens to have been in the air force and seen whatever, and rails against Jones as an alarmist, but wait, he's 54 and has long hair and smokes pot! yeah right. It's all just too convenient. And for the simple fact that why would you describe yourself while defending your position against Jones? Think about it.
For example, if i were to tell you that I'm a 20 something 5'10 brunette with an ass that you can bounce quarters off, while defending Jones, wouldn't you be somewhat suspicious?
The only reason i am addressing this guy is because he's been posting here for a while.

man this is getting tiresome.
This whole Alex Jones debacle..
Now GGG, I just scroll down on his comments at this point..

11/13/2008 04:24:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Reptor...
smoking under a table is fun, like a cave of sorts..

11/13/2008 04:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Obamageddon said...

Richard,

Nice catch there on Gotbaum. Unbelievable, yet the Dem fanclub will find a way to rationalize it, just as the Repub fanclub rationalized all of the Bush Admins' transgressions.

11/13/2008 04:36:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis Igou said...

Fletcher you are on glue. The only problem you have is your affinity to racist, alarmist, innane Alex Jones. Me I have my problems, sure. But yours is being civil. I have never doubted or railed against you. Just like Jones, quite the beligerant! I have been to Thule. That was in 1975. I spent 3 years 8 monthe and 11 days in the USAF, I care not what you want to rant. But this Alex Jones right wing prattle sure gets you worked up. Signed up to a militia yet Fletch? PS You don't know green bud till you have been to Eugene.Fool!

11/13/2008 04:43:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

what about Gerald Celente? Is he too an alarmist??
I mean he was on Fox News recently,
and we all know how the Media likes to work everybody up into a frenzy, right?
Alex Jones is part of the media, for sure, guilt by association, right?
I dunno.
some rebelliousness IS manufactured, like smoking, for example.
Don't confuse Alex Jones with that kind of thinking. I think that might be your fundamental error, D.

11/13/2008 04:49:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

Aw, Fletcher man, I mean girl - you got me thinking confused and dirty thoughts. Internet identities can be...such a surprise.

Got quarters.

R.

11/13/2008 04:52:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

Actually, I would say that today's RI graffiti were brought to you by the word 'hindquarters'.

Golden Hindquarters Headquarters,

ummm....



(bubble bubble)

11/13/2008 04:56:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Dennis: Ahahahaa! Cough. Eugene! Ahahahaa!

I'm sure it's very nice goodies y'all got there, but you know where I'm from...(at least, I think I gave it up on the blog now that I'm leaving town).

R.

11/13/2008 04:58:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

RIGHT WING PRATTLE????
dude get a clue.
sorry for not being more civil, but this sheeit does get me worked up. maybe you were in the Force. maybe you were at Thule. i just thought it interesting that you suddenly bust out with this info, I don't recall you ever posting about that, but i don't read every post..though yours, yeah, usually. maybe my memorys bad...
I prefer the title, "Trickster" to fool, but like neither of them..
And i do really apreciate your stance, but I'd love to know where you got the idea you have of Jones.
I completely disagree with you.
Respectfully, just for the sake of respect,
fletcher.
PS Reptor:
UFOs would be neato. Horrifyingly nifty. The big O piloting the mothership...
what does that say about me that i kind of like the idea?
Too much Sci-Fi as a kid probably.

11/13/2008 05:01:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

I don't know about Eugene's green bud and maybe you could E X P A N D on the subject. I do know that it has the highest quality zeolite found on the planet. There are lots of different kinds of zeolite but Eugene's "Clinoptilolite" could save us all from ourselves. Too bad it's being suppressed.

11/13/2008 05:45:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

I see why it's just as well to leave out personal details. (But i do relate to all the good folk here, some more than others.) And Reptor, I'm thinkin that someday you will get to go pro. Keep working it.

fletcher wrote...

"And i do really appreciate your stance, but I'd love to know where you got the idea you have of Jones.
I completely disagree with you.
Respectfully, just for the sake of respect,
fletcher."

OK, I can deal with this. A link was left earlier that points to an active thread over at the general discussion board. Compaired2what?, JackRiddler and others share a view similar to that held by Dennis and I. For the sake of respect, please do check out that thread.

wv: coush

11/13/2008 05:56:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis Igou said...

Sounder posted a link to the forums, the argument presented there is my exact bias about the Alex Jones's/Jeff Rense's/Rush Limbaugh/and other charlatans who are always finding something to hate. Our minds grow with every word, make sure yours grows with good nourishing words. Thank you Fletcher for bringing this discussion to civility. I bear no malice towards you. I feel Jones's vitirol is destructive in nature. Much of his web site meets minds that hate. Where do they go from there? I am exhausted with Alex Jones. Let's move on. Dennis

11/13/2008 06:06:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

sure lets just move on (although i do concede exhaustion...trying to defend Jones is exhausting when faced with baseless criticism..)
much like the same cop-out way that Jeff's work is merely ...satire...right?
Let's just gloss over the issue with a link to a discussion that i couldn't find.
thanks.

11/13/2008 06:59:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

and in no way is "vitriol destructive in nature"
another fine example of baseless assumptions.
Vitriol is essential in "nature"
The ultimate Predator keeps it Real.
Vitriol against the predatory system is a necessary ingredient in the coming era of Changes..
Alex Jones' "vitriol" is well justified.

11/13/2008 07:05:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Dennis displays his short-cut-to thinking methodology with this:
"Alex Jones's/Jeff Rense's/Rush Limbaugh/and other charlatans"
yeah, as if if you can lump them together like that as being mere media whores.
Jones is one end of the spectrum, and Limbaugh is the other.
Jones is good, Limbaugh is Evil.
Oh I know..there aren't any absolutes.
and you're absolutely sure of that.
I know, i know...

11/13/2008 07:11:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

haterd can be justified Dennis.
It's what you do with that hatred that counts.

11/13/2008 07:14:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=21431&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

fletcher, cut and paste this to the address bar.

11/13/2008 09:39:00 PM  
Blogger just_another_dick said...

Shrub, did you happen to catch that anti-lobby Obama is stocking his transition team with a bunch of lobbyists?

He's just making them sign an "ethics agreement" where they promise not to do any naughty shit for a whole year.

Quite the hoot. When I told my wife that one she actually laughed out loud.

You're right, the Dems will rationalize it ad nauseum.
Just think Shrub, after 8 years of listening to every Republican tell us about the greatness of Bush, we get to spend the next 4+ years being nauseated by the Dems irrational crush on Obama.

After spending a bit of time cruising around the liberal blogosphere I've come to the conclusion that the Democrats were just aching to be seen as 'real Americans' and 'true blue Patriots' too.

If I didn't live here I'd find it funny. As it stands, it just makes my sphincter pucker.



I also have to admit that it's nice being an observer of an RI shit slinging match instead of a full on participant.

11/13/2008 10:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff,

Why don't you comment on the politics of your own country?

You sanctimonious, typically passive-aggressive kanook jerk.

-your friend, the-guy-who-you-clearly-know-who-this-is-and-even-you-still-like-me-a-little-but-fired-me-from-your-radical-left-infested-and-krazy-kristian-infested-message-board!

PS You are only half right about Jones. The real fault is in the delusional christian belief system. it really is. Man-up and face the shadow in your self, and quit writing books to excuse yourself from that task.

11/13/2008 10:49:00 PM  
Anonymous St. Onan the Onanist, son of Judah, Pronger of Tamar said...

Janie says we are all such a crush of want
half-mad with loss
we are violated in our sleep
& we weep & we toss
& we turn & we burn
we are hypnotised
we are cross-eyed
we are pimped
we are bitched
we're told such monstrous lies

Janie wakes up and she says
We're gonna have a real cool time tonight!!!!

Mr. Sandman has a certain appetite for Janie in repose
he digs her pretty knees
& that she's completely naked underneath all her clothes
he likes to congregate around the intersection of Janie's jeans
Mr. Sandman, the inseminator
he opens her up like a love letter
& enters her dreams.

11/14/2008 01:42:00 AM  
Blogger War Negger said...

I'm back.

11/14/2008 01:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who cares?

11/14/2008 03:08:00 AM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

Hey Dennis,
Jeez...No response?
Maybe that "Jet" thing hit a little
to close to home..you being in the
Air Force and all.
Any-who..just curious if you caught
that interview with Naomi Wolf last
week? She's been doing some great
work recently: Letter to a Young
Patriot, The Ten Steps To Fascism,
and the video The End of America.
Oh wait..that interview was on
the Alex Jones Show. Sorry..
Christ, if I had a nickle for every time she told Alex "I did not know that" I could
buy that laser sight
for my Glock. Oh well..Christmas
is just around the corner..!

Just Another Richard:
You, Sir, are at the top
of your game. Carry on..

Lord Reptor:
I have a beach house on
the shores of Block Island Sound
that you are welcome to use until
spring if you need a place to stay.
The only requirements for living
there are that you must write a
1000 words a day and be nice to
the young Asian girl that rents
the place while she attends
RISD. She is most...charming.

Eric:
Would it be possible to
expand on your comments regarding
chem-trails?

11/14/2008 03:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Obamageddon said...

Yeah, Richard, what a hoot. Sign an ethics agreement. As if that ever stopped anyone. Don't they take an oath of office when they become Congressman and Presidents to uphold the constitution, then they go right on ahead and shred it, figuratively, and literally? What a joke. It might be another football team, but it's still the same game.

Yeah, how about you and I sitting this RI dog fight out. And, I don't have the slightest interest in getting involved.

11/14/2008 08:06:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Hey Bombay..I'm a bit more esot eric about the subject than I used to be. I think.."my opinion" that chemtrails are tracking ley lines and power centres which move around and are dependent on the seasons celestial and otherwise. Check out Basilides and his take on Archon one and two. The goal is to get out past the moon and the goalies are truly hungry. The light at the end of the tunnel is "out".

11/14/2008 08:52:00 AM  
Blogger Dennis Igou said...

Hey Bombay, the runway is painted white to not upset the permafrost. The hanger we taxied into was had a concrete floor that was caved in due to the permafrost being compromized. I was a comand control expert for SAC. I was chosen for this exercise(Giant Lance) to facilitate KC-135's to their refuling areas to fuel B-52's and FB-111's. The base is run by the Danes . RCA ran the BMW sites. Black foxes were everywhere on and near the base. Thule is the northernmost place on earth that there is an iniuit settlement. I flew to Greenland on a KC-135 from Grissom AFB in Indiana. It was an experience . Average temp was 32 below 0. Skys were clear all the way up. It was dark when we landed. My service is on record and every place I was assigned is on the record. Also spent 9 months in Ramstein AFB in Germany. I served my country 3 years 8 months and 11 days. I care less if you believe it. No more Jones,waste of my time posting my views. Respectfully, Dennis

11/14/2008 11:13:00 AM  
Blogger Dennis Igou said...

Keeping up with the Jones's is killing me, one more bad habit I was too Blind to see.(Lowell George).Shine forth Brave souls! Respectfully, Dennis.

11/14/2008 12:09:00 PM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

Hey Dennis,
I'm sure you were in the
Air Force, but that was not my
point. If you are going to post
what you consider to be "facts"
on this blog like someone is a
"racist" or is full of nothing but
"alarmist prattle" than you should
be well prepared to back them up.
Which, by your obvious avoidance
of my comments, you are not.
Dennis, I would love to buy the
world a Coke and teach it how to
sing..but that didn't work in the
60's and it isn't going to work
any time in the near future.
If you want to pretend that what
is happening is not happening,
that's your choice to make.
But don't disparage the rest of
us for wanting to know about
the crimes that are being
committed and who is responsible.

11/14/2008 12:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Mozzers said...

Seriously, I hope Jeff does post more regularly, I love watching the moths dance around the flame.

11/14/2008 01:25:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Ah!well said, Doc.

11/14/2008 02:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yepper, mozzers.

11/14/2008 04:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish Jeff would get out of the politics/propaganda biz and spend more time with his wife.

And stop writing. Please.

; )

11/14/2008 06:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff Wells is a Scientologist.

It's true... I audited him in 2006. He was hot on the e-meter, full of withholds - thankfully, we cleared him for Sector Nine service. He has been doing a good job, except for letting those damned communists run wild.

Also, in a past life Jeff was a genetic engineer who created bio-machines for the consortium.

It's real - it read on the e-meter.

11/14/2008 06:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw Jeff with Tom Cruise at Spago,
they shared a grilled pizza...

11/15/2008 02:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I saw Jeff with Tom Cruise at Spago,
they shared a grilled pizza..."

It's no joke. This is the biggest thing since pizza was invented.

I am an ex-scientologist. I'm scared, really scared. You can't even imagine what they would do to me if they traced this back to me.

Probably the same goons who are holding a ray-gun to Jeff's head would zap me in a second.

I'm just a clerk, a delivery boy. There is a laser light diamond in my forehead - I am a target of baby-sacrificing masons.

I AM TELLING YOU "darth" Jeff is an evil Mason, and his scientology cronies are initiated into Lucifer's Intention. Jeff may not have the deep dirt on the Illuminati, but he is held by them.

HELD BY THEM







GET IT???!!!!!!!!?????????

11/15/2008 03:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

..Tom and Jeff also split a side of
baby greens..then they canoodled in
the rear booth.

11/15/2008 03:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hee hee, anonymous above me, you are so funny.

I think I know who you are...

what a joy to communicate with you.

11/15/2008 01:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I think I know who you are..."

So..Who do you think I think I am..?

11/15/2008 03:14:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Dr. B: Dr. Bombay, that's pretty much the kindest thing anyone has ever offered me. Thanks a lot, and I mean that. I do have a semi-functional escape plan up and running - if it all works out, I'll resurface with all the details (I may start a fresh blog as well - Damp Caverns is kind of part of this house and island that I must leave).

I'd like to take you up on your offer. A lot. And the way you set up the conditionalities was both flattering and encouraging. You too, Sounder - I'm having a tough time keeping the aspidistra flying right now, and your kind words meant a lot.

I don't even actually know where Block Island Sound is. Jesus, a beach house with a maid and a typewriter. Bombay, by turning you down I am probably missing out on a hell of a movie-star life moment. Be just like that Patricia Highsmith they made the mivie out of...oh yeah - The Talented Mr. Ripley. Except for the jealousy and the homosexual murder. That could be replaced with tea, smoke, and tinkly Bach on the veranda instead.

I promise, I wouldn't get after the maid, either.

Unless she got after me first...(goes off into dream)...

Anyway, thanks. Really a lot. Sorry for being a while getting back to you - connect probs EX-treme.

P.S. Is Jeff really a Scientologist agent? That would be, like, Hardy-Boys grade coolly mysterious and messed up.

Maybe Obama is a Scientology agent.

P.P.S. Not meaning to denigrate the worrries of anyone here busy hiding from them. I hear they can be a bit vengeful or whatever. But it is all kind of neat, all these intersecting circles of sneaky power. Dark sometimes but damn neat.

Reptor out. Have a good night, folks.

11/15/2008 04:20:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@ Dr. B.:Oh my. I am an old racist white pig. Renter, not maid. Nice white-boy assumption, oh yeah, Asians are maid.

Sigh. Not sure which way makes a hotter fantasy.

And thanks again. You made a nasty hairy old green monster in a cave feel a bit, well, sentimental there. You guys are very kind to me.

R.

11/15/2008 04:27:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Dr. B. Oh, by the way - my escape plan, while a little unformed,definitely involves selling the Caves. Otherwise, well, ooh. Yikes.

So if you know anyone with a huuuuuge chequebook and a family member who needs a place to ride out the bad times...well, send them over to the Caves. We're talking the very low six figures here. Pocket change for a big player.

Or a rich Scientologist. This place would make a great secret ops base. Signals bleeping in the silent village night....

Off to make brownies (dessert for a farewell dinner at the Cave's previous owner's place - the guy that did all that nice work around here),
Lord Reptor.

11/15/2008 04:33:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Re Jeff's tic on dissing Jones, maybe Jeff is thinking "if you can't beat them, join then in using neuro-linguistic programming on the masses" while they think its journalism.

Here's something interesting that you might call "New Labour, EU-phile Baron Peter Mandelson, and neurolinguistic programming". Seems the "Labour Baron" (recently put in the corporatist House of Lords in the UK), who personally masterminded the whole New Labour show for years, is a big fan of neurolinguistic programming and is going to great lengths to hide these connections now.

First a little on the overt Mandelson, then the strategic Mandelson who uses neurolinguistic programming in his political life and consultant connections:

Peter Benjamin Mandelson, Baron Mandelson, PC (born 21 October 1953) is a British Labour politician who is the serving Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform, appointed on 3 October 2008.

"Mandelson is regarded as one of the main players, along with Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, of the modern Labour Party and its rebranding as "New Labour".[1] He is often referred to by the nickname "Mandy" by much of the British news media.[2][3][4][5][6][7]. He was inducted into the House of Lords on 13 October 2008[8].

Having helped Labour come to power in 1997 [with neurolinguistic programming], he was then forced twice to resign from Tony Blair's government while holding Cabinet positions.

After his second resignation he served as the European Commissioner for Trade for almost four years, before being brought back into mainstream [neurolinguistic programming addicted] British politics by Gordon Brown.

Before Labour came to power, he was author (with Roger Liddle) of The Blair Revolution (1996).

More recently, he contributed to the book The City in Europe and the World (2005).

Mandelson served as Member of Parliament for Hartlepool for twelve years, a seat he vacated in order to become a European Commissioner."


And for the neurolinguistic programming connections--where his political campaigns have marks of being used as mass hyponosis strategies (from the Nazis of the 1930s onward through the MKULTRA era we live in):

Read this exposure at:

http://www.ukcolumn.org/2008/11/10/notably-limited-personality/

"I had, just that day, been digging into Mandelson’s links to the murky world of Neuro-Linguistic Programming - that “leadership”/change/personality-splitting technique used by the likes of Common Purpose.

I’d been digging because a friend had pointed out to me what happened if I typed http://www.petermandelson.com/ into my web browser of choice....

As you can see if you click on the screenshot above, the site I was taken to was, [not Peter Mandelson though was] in fact, NLP [neurolinguistic programming] Connections, run by a guy called Chris Morris.

Here’s what Chris Morris has to say about himself:

“I originally became interested in the field of hypnosis as a student studying psychology and then later I returned to it when I was working in professional politics. It seemed clear to me that a politician could present the exact same argument in many different ways, and some of those ways would be greeted with great enthusiasm while other ways would be harshly rejected. As a speechwriter, I studied the language in thousands of speeches and began to notice more and more that the most persuasive politicians use many of the same language patterns that hypnotists use...."


So then the person wrote "LordTM Mandelson" and asked him about his clear Chris Morris and neurolinguistic programming connections directly.

Within a few days, that website was entirely removed. There was no overt response from Mandelson except to hide the links of neurolinguistic programming to CRUCIALLY CENTRAL part in creating "New Labour". I feel the same way about Tony Blair's speeches, full of little repetitions over and over until you practically are trapped into agreeing with corporate fascism phrased properly. Which is what New Labour is of course.

See the link for the fuller exposure.

11/16/2008 10:38:00 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

repost from a comment there, the same aristocratic occult elites themes overlapping in Peter Mandelson:

This is also very interesting:

Mandelson’s family history - and how he could claim to be the uncrowned King of Poland

By Adam Luck
Last updated at 12:01 AM on 09th November 2008

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1084072/Mandelsons-family-history–claim-uncrowned-King-Poland.html

"The Mail on Sunday can reveal that Mandelson’s family has links with powerful Russians stretching back at least two centuries, and he may even be related to the fabulously wealthy Rothschilds themselves."

The above might begin to explain Mandy being with a Russian Oligarch along with a nuliebore soon-to-become ‘lord’ and a “Conservative” bildergerger on or near a yacht off Corfu…..probably getting their orders/script for the coming Rothschild/satanic/nwo coup against humanity via the takeover and consolidation of the entire global money supply.

Most telling are the comments to the article - it gives me hope that there really IS a mass awakening towards the much longed-for hundredth monkey tipping point.

http://www.ukcolumn.org/2008/11/10/notably-limited-personality/

wv: trableed

the full article:

Mandelson's family history - and how he could claim to be the uncrowned King of Poland

By Adam Luck
Last updated at 12:01 AM on 09th November 2008

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Lord Mandelson

Trappings of power: Lord Mandelson

To his critics, Lord Mandelson of Foy and Hartlepool is Machiavelli in ermine, though few can fault his remarkable ability to survive and prosper.

He twice resigned from Tony Blair's Cabinet but last month returned to frontline politics for a third time, now serving his former nemesis, Gordon Brown.

Enemies tangle with the new Business Secretary at their peril, as Shadow Chancellor George Osborne recently discovered after his holiday in Corfu. The other key players in that drama - Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska and banking scion Nat Rothschild - are proof of Mandelson's ability to make powerful friends.

Where does it come from, this combination of talents and contacts that makes Mandelson the consummate political operator? Could it be in his genes and family history?

The Mail on Sunday can reveal that Mandelson's family has links with powerful Russians stretching back at least two centuries, and he may even be related to the fabulously wealthy Rothschilds themselves.

Indeed, the history of the Mandelsons encompasses a swashbuckling colonel who fought for the Russians against Napoleon, a revolutionary who turned against Moscow, and a family fortune built on diamonds, rubies and opals.

However, as with most matters connected with the Prince of Darkness, close scrutiny of the Mandelson lineage reveals a shadowy web from which it is sometimes difficult to unpick the truth.

It is Lord Mandelson's distant Australian cousin, John Mandelson, who has kept alive the flame of the family history.

John, 80, who lives in Sydney, says: 'I wrote to Peter twice, but the b***** never bothered to reply. I wanted to tell him about our history, but clearly he is not interested. Perhaps it is time he paid attention.'

John and Peter Mandelson share a common ancestor in Nathan Mandelson, who was born in Warsaw around 1800 when it was part of the Russian Empire. Nathan would go on to make his fortune in Australia.

According to family history, Nathan - Peter Mandelson's great-great-grandfather - was the son of Polish Jew Naphtali Felthusen. Felthusen was a colonel in the 13th Polish Lancers and fought with the Russian 1st Army against Napoleon's invading French forces in 1812.

For his bravery in battle, Felthusen was awarded a coat of arms by the King of Poland, but he was killed in a skirmish as the French retreated across the River Niemen, in modern-day Lithuania, later that year.

Nathan, however, rebelled against the Russian yoke and became involved in the 1825 Decembrist plot to overthrow Tsar Nicholas I.

His reward, according to family tradition, was to be declared King of Poland for a day.

When the Tsarist secret police began hunting the plotters, Nathan fled, making his way to England in 1829.

On arrival, he changed his surname to Mandelson to throw Imperialist secret agents off his scent.
Lord Mandelson's great-grandfather Levy

Lord Mandelson's great-grandfather Levy

Forced to earn his passage to England, Nathan had worked as a baker, a trade in which he made great use of almonds, or 'mandel' in German. He had cooked up a unique family name.

In 1830, Nathan married Phoebe, daughter of Jacob Levy Cohen, of Leicester. The Leicester Cohens were related to a woman named Hannah Cohen who married Nathan Mayer.

Mayer would go on to found a banking dynasty and become the first Lord Rothschild - giving Peter Mandelson a family link to the Rothschild clan and, by extension, to Karl Marx, who was related to them.

[If you read Peter Mandelson (originally Felthusen) biography at Wikiops, it is all about his Soviet USSR/Russian connections all his life....]

Three years after marrying, Nathan and Phoebe decided to carve out a new life in Australia. They moved to Goulburn, New South Wales, where Nathan established a hotel and became a successful businessman.

Their eldest son, Levy, great-grandfather of Peter, would eventually move back to Britain, while another son, Joseph, John Mandelson's grandfather, stayed in Australia.

John Mandelson says: 'With that the two branches of the family lost contact. It was only during the Second World War that Norman Mandelson, Levy's son and the grandfather of Peter, made contact with my father and the two branches were reunited.

'We used to send Norman and his family food parcels, including tins of beef dripping. After the war we kept in contact and my late sister met up with Norman when she went over for the Queen's Coronation in 1953. We have pictures of Norman and Peter's father George, both as a boy and an officer in the British Army.

'In 1956 my father went over to meet Norman but when he arrived he discovered that Norman had died. He met George who had no time for my father because he was a "bloody colonial". After that we lost contact.'

John also has pictures of a young Levy Mandelson, whose dandy clothes and saturnine features echo those of Lord Mandelson himself.

Extensive searches of records in both Poland and Russia unearthed no trace of the Felthusens, but Polish Jewish records were largely destroyed during the Second World War.

There are, however, records of Polish lancers serving with the Russians, and of Russian forces clashing with Napoleon's army at the River Niemen, where family history has it that Colonel Felthusen was killed.

Joachim Russek, an expert in Polish Jewish history and head of the Judaica Foundation in Krakow, says: 'It is certainly plausible that you could have had a Polish Jewish officer in the Russian forces.

'But the "king for a day" story confuses Jewish myth with family history. Polish kings used to be elected and when one of the first kings fled the throne, the legend of people being elected king for a day took shape.

'In family history there is a tendency to exaggerate. People rarely admit their grandfather was a cobbler - they would rather claim he was a chief rabbi.'

Indeed, it isn't the first discrepancy in the Mandelsons' illustrious lineage. Nathan's involvement with the Decembrists seems unlikely, given their anti-Semitism [there is a Sabbatean wing of Jewish ethnic groups that are profoundly anti-Semitic/anti-jewish religion though], but another family version has him involved simply in an unspecified anti-Russian plot.

The coat of arms also remains shrouded in mystery. Polish heraldry expert Wlodek Lesiecki was unable to find the Mandelson family crest in the records, but believes it could be genuine.

Enlarge The Mandelson coat of arms and family tree

'It doesn't look like a modern creation because too much care has gone into it,' he says. 'It looks as if the original was hand-painted.'

The Australian part of the story is easier to confirm. Records show that a Levy Mandelson was a merchant in New South Wales in the 1850s, making a fortune dealing in precious stones.

He left the area in the 1870s and appears in the 1881 British census at a smart address in Kensington, West London.

At the time of his death in 1891, wealthy Levy could boast knights of the realm among his neighbours - an achievement that his great-grandson Peter, with his fondness for expensive property in West London, must surely be proud of.

Levy's son Norman became financial advertising manager of the Jewish Chronicle between the wars. His son George, known as Tony, became the Chronicle's advertising director.

Tony was also known as a sharp dresser with an even sharper tongue. After a failed first marriage, he enchanted Mary, the daughter of Labour Deputy Prime Minister Herbert Morrison. They married and had two sons - Miles and Peter.

The irony of Peter Mandelson, once a member of the Young Communist League, becoming notorious for enjoying the generous hospitality of the rich and powerful would surely not be lost on his colourful ancestors. Nor would the family motto: Omnia Desuper or Everything From Above.

Perhaps Lord Mandelson is more interested in family history than he lets on.

• Additional reporting by Will Stewart in Moscow.

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Gosh, this is hot news!

According to your article, the good Lord Mandelson could in fact be related to both the Rothchilds and/or the good Lord Levy!
May I suggest all Mail readers join together and try to confirm that Mandelson really is the King of Poland, then maybe the totally trustworthy and honest Prince of Darkness can be dumped onto the good people of Poland who I am convinced would be delighted by their new acquisition, he could wear ermine suits and crowns and generally parade about as though he was a well liked figure!

- Mal of Dereham, Dereham, Norfolk, 09/11/2008 09:01


It is not bad enough that they make this third rate politician a lord but now they want him as a King! The British are very stupid! Try becoming a Republic and voting in who you want!

- Pat, Dublin, Ireland, 09/11/2008 08:35


Not wishing to inflict anything untoward on the Polish nation,BUT please feel free to prove this correct and take him off our hands, now we know where from where he gets his illusions of grandeur.G S the King of Poland.

- Robert G, Derbyshire U K, 09/11/2008 08:34

It's a fascinating piece. Mandelson related to the Rothchilds, the Rothchilds related to Karl Marx. It seems like the conspiracy theorists might be onto something. well done Adam

- john sunderland, sunderland, 9/11/2008 17:25

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1084072/Mandelsons-family-history--claim-uncrowned-King-Poland.html#addComment

11/16/2008 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Clan Destine said...

Hello Fellow Pre-Armageddonites:

I am here because I notice ericswan is here and the flying shithook is closed..

Ask yourself these questions...

Why is "Barak Obama" so similar to "Iraq Osama"?

If (still black) Obama's name was "Bill Smith" or "Samual Claymore" would he now be President-elect?

Does floridated water have anything to do with the fact that (most) everyone is so stupid in America? Or possibly a combination of Floride and Mass Media?

Finally...

I mean come on, really, why does Obama rhyme with Osama?

When you can answer that question Grasshopper... time for you to leave.

See if the shithook can leave, ersw...

Clan Destine Out

11/16/2008 02:46:00 PM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

Mark:
Very interesting comments and
links as usual. It always comes
back to the Banksters, doesn't it?
Hell, $2 Trillion stolen in just
the last few weeks, and Paulson's
minion from GoldinSacks KashanCarry
goes up to the Hill and tells
Congress to go fuck itself..

Lord Reptor:
Sorry to hear you
will not be making your way to
New England old boy.. I had a
bottle of Delamain Reserve Cognac
with your name on it and had
placed an order with my local
"merchant" for something top
shelf to pack into my "Swamp
Yankee" clay pipe. Nothing quite
like sitting on the 2nd floor deck,
looking over the salt ponds,
and imbibing while Miles trumpet
wafts through an open window.
But I am heartened that things
seem to be working out properly
on your end. Take a rain check
then, eh?

"Well I'm on my downeaster Alexa,
and I'm cruising through
Block Island Sound,
I have charted a course
for the Vineyard,
But tonight I am Nantucket bound"
B. Joel

11/16/2008 05:33:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

predictive programming:
fight club,
I am legend,
Blindness,
...

11/16/2008 08:53:00 PM  
Blogger the author said...

The last word on Alex Jones:

Alex Jones is nobody. He is just the loudspeaker.

What matters is the message. The message makes people mad, naturally. The truth always does.

Mixed in with the truth, unavoidably, is some error. That happens with humans.

If someone does not feel some "vitriol" at least sometimes about a system of genocide, disease, poverty, child trafficking, torture and massive oppression, they're not quite human and they are an utter waste of time to try to communicate with.

Baseless accusations are just that. Repetition does not make them true.


- a frickin' american.

11/16/2008 09:09:00 PM  
Blogger the author said...

NLP is fascinating stuff, by the way. It is misused by evil folks, of course, but it has great benefits too. I actually stumbled upon Bandler/Grinder's original series of NLP books when I was in high school, of all things, researching for a totally unrelated report. I was so fascinated by the subject matter (hypnosis, controlling the levers of the human mind, hoping to get some clue as to how to control my own ...) that I ended up 5 days late on the report. I was spending all my time reading about NLP instead!

You best believe NLP is in heavy use in politics and advertising. There are also entire groups on the Web devoted to using NLP and hypnosis to get women in bed. Mystery (aka "The PIckup Artist" on VH-1) is reportedly an adept at this. I have read up on "pickup artist" NLP. The shit works. But I couldn't do it, I'd feel like a scumbag.

As far as picking up women, I would recommend sticking to the traditional methods: Just be a cocky, self-centered prick! Seems to work for a lot of guys I know.

11/16/2008 09:19:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

yeah, but the girls they pick up are slutty, self-centered num-skulls.
just be yourself, bro.
any girl who don't dig you, ain't worth your time.

11/16/2008 10:12:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

I know, old news, but, just saw another one of the cameras on my way home tonight...
Licence plate scanning..
AI...
spray it w/ PAM!
ha ha.
or rain-X?
there's a spray you can order...
www.sprayyourplate.com?

11/16/2008 10:18:00 PM  
Blogger the author said...

ANd the thing about NLP is, it's not really new. NLP is not really even definable as the field ecompasses the study of body language, linguistics, symbolism, cognition, motivational psychology, hypnosis ...with the goals of transforming thoughts and actions ... which of course can be used either positively or negatively. These practices have been in use for millennia. Some people employ them naturally. These people tend to rise to power more quickly. Of course, certain of these techniques no doubt have been hoarded for centuries by the occult. Milton Erickson, and his proteges Bandler and Grinder, were the ones who took on the task of further developing, exploring and assembling these techniques into a loose discipline known as NLP and publishing them. I note that Grinder was ex-Naval Intel, for what that's worth.

Shit, I'm so smart, I should just go ahead and get NLP certified and then I could help people with therapeutic tools provided thru NLP ... or, if I was feeling evil, simply hypnotize people secretly and get them to do my evil bidding!

11/16/2008 10:54:00 PM  
Blogger the author said...

yeah, but the girls they pick up are slutty, self-centered num-skulls.
just be yourself, bro.
any girl who don't dig you, ain't worth your time.



Exactly.

But there is something to be said for improving yourself so there's more about you to "dig." There is another guy out there who has a book called "Double Your Dating." He teaches pickup psychology too, but he takes a dim view of NLP and secret hypnosis techniques. He promotes a subtler blend of things that all pretty much amount to: men should act like men -- not girls. Just be supremely confident, independent, and sure of yourself. Take the initiative, take charge, make plans, don't take attitude or bullshit. Show them you are "high value." Don't chase them, make them chase you. And so on. No underhanded mind tricks involved. Well, maybe just a few tricks, but those fall more in the realm of "marketing" rather than covert hypnosis or something. That stuff works too. It's really nothing new, it's just un-learning modern feminist/"sensitive man" brainwashing and being what we are supposed to be.

11/16/2008 11:10:00 PM  
Blogger the author said...

I think about gettin' some SprayYerPlate every time I get in my car! I've had quite a bit of trouble with the law this year, most of it traffic- related (well, I have a bad habit of missing court dates and getting bench warrants issued against me ...)

Oh yeah, and the Illinois tollway cameras got me too. You know if you miss a toll (or you go through the "Open Road Tolling" lane mistakenly with no transponder) they'll get your plate. Then you have only 7 days to pay online. After 7 days, it's an automatic $20 fine per violation. So if you come up 10 cents short on a toll, and you forget to pay within 7 days, you get a bill for $20.10.

And of course, cameras are up on the freeways too. "PHOTO SPEED ENFORCEMENT," the signs read. It doesn't seem to be up and running yet. "Red light cameras" and "crime fighting cameras" and "gunshot detectors" (aka., microphones) are everywhere in Chicagoland. We're becoming the London of the U.S.

I'm sure the Spray Your Plate stuff is actually something pretty simple that you can get generically in a hardware store. Epoxy or somethin like that.

11/16/2008 11:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Clan Destine said...

If I had a successful television series in it's six season and was looking for an actor to play President Biden... well, actually, to first play Vice-President Biden and THEN play President Biden... I would choose actor Powers Booth to play the role.

I would choose him because, a) he's a ringer, and b) that way when the black President gets taken out, secession occurs, and Marshall Law ensues... everybody can point back to my television series made two years before and say "Hey, wait a minute..."

Because Powers Booth is a perfect Biden in the same way Travolta was a perfect Clinton. But it's before the fact and not after the fact.

That's what makes it so perfect... in a pre-911 Mel-Gibson-saying "9 pounds 11 ounces. Perfect. Perfect." as-the opening-dialogue-in-The Patriot... kind of way.

And that Cash and Carry dude looks like a frikkin' hijacker.
Is anybody getting this?

What's the other miscreant's name? Rahm Emanuel. That sounds about as American as Obama or Melemelemembey.
Where do they get these people? Oh yeah, that's right... from Israel.

They are rubbing your noses in it.

Now 911-two is just around the corner (everyone knows it, and everyone also knows it will be Tyler Durden punching himself in the face like last time) and... just like last time... after the fact, people will begin to realize they watched all this stuff on TV years ago.

How did those screenwriters know? Flouride-addled-inquiring-minds want to know.

The answer is: The Telephone.

The role of Alex Jones is: to be a HERALD for the New World Order in America. His main role is to instill cognitive/security/dissonance.

Like Jefferson, he insists we must resist. Like the Borg, he insists that resistance is futile.

The only way to save the Country is for Congress to WAKE UP!

coupled with

If Congress really wakes up, the NWO will neutron-bomb Washington... I've seen the documents.

Jones says this 30 times a week amid terrifying descriptions of the myriad hi-tech weapons and control features arrayed against the sheep, right down to the dimensions of the pens we are to be shuffled (herded) into.

By textbook definition, Alex is a fear-monger. To try to not see that is to undergo some serious mental acrobatics.

Ask yourself... "Is he scary to listen to?" Then ask, "Does he have a bullhorn and a two note chorus."

Resist. Resistance is Futile. Resist. Resistance is Futile.

Even if Alex is innocent of conscious NWO-change-agent-affiliation... if he were to die tomorrow... the NWO would scramble to foment or hire somebody to replace him.

If they really wanted to be rid of him... it would be a simple matter of choosing the right pre-established script, like the ending of the film Talk Radio... and play it out.

The NWO needs Alex Jones to drill into our minds that they have little spider robots that spray nerve gas and killer frequencies that can crawl out of your wife's blouse by the hundreds, and through the cracks under the doors and through the drain pipes... and GET YOU... if you don't watch out!

What's the matter - scared?

Bill Cooper told the IRS to fuck off.
Alex Jones didn't.

'nough said.

11/16/2008 11:25:00 PM  
Blogger the author said...

This comment has been removed by the author.

11/17/2008 12:13:00 AM  
Blogger the author said...

"Clan":

You seem to be listening to Jones heavily filtered through a preconceived story line. Not that it wouldn't make for a good psych-ops thriller -- ha ha -- it's just that there's just no evidence for it.



Like Jefferson, he insists we must resist. Like the Borg, he insists that resistance is futile.




No he doesn't. He talks about the strategies for resistance every day. The way to resist is to spread knowledge and to re-empower ourselves, our families, our communities. And yes, preparedness is part of empowerment. The idea being that if they do neutron-bomb Washington, we'll be ready. They can't neutron bomb the entire country. Even if they can monitor us all, if we all get wise to them and give them the collective finger, they can't grab us all.
They can't send in the troops to take over a country where everyone is the militia. And speaking of which, for all the folks out there who are a little squeamish about guns and stuff, and are paranoid about the term "militia" because you've swallowed all the NWO hype about white supremacists in every closet: the whole idea of the militia is to be there to save your sorry scared-of-guns ass when They come to get you.

It'll work a lot better, though, when everyone's an active participant. Heck, you don't need to call it a militia if you don't like the word. Call it a neighborhood watch if you like. Hell, call it a "Civilian Security Force" if you like.


Jones says this 30 times a week amid terrifying descriptions of the myriad hi-tech weapons and control features arrayed against the sheep, right down to the dimensions of the pens we are to be shuffled (herded) into.


It's quite true. We are headed to a real bad place IF we don't wake up and do something. It's not "resist" AND "resistance is futile" -- it's "resist BEFORE resistance BECOMES futile." Spreading the unpleasant truth is a neessary part of the solution.


By textbook definition, Alex is a fear-monger. To try to not see that is to undergo some serious mental acrobatics.


To not hear the solutions that Alex advocates is to undergo some highly selective listening!


Bill Cooper told the IRS to fuck off.
Alex Jones didn't.



Which is why Bill Cooper, sadly, is way dead and not able to do much of any good. Alex Jones is influencing potentially millions. The point is not to die for your cause but to make the other bastard die for his.

a frickin' american

11/17/2008 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its not enough for one person to
tell the IRS to fuck off..All of
us have to tell the IRS to fuck
off. We are funding are own demise,
and paying for our own funerals.

"Those in power never give up
their power voluntarily,
it must be taken from them."
Malcolm X

11/17/2008 03:31:00 AM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@ Dr. B. - Yeah, I actually seem to have a plan. I kind of wish I didn't, because then I could take you up on your truly generous (and fun-sounding) offer. Even if you turned out to be Bulgarian Rastafarian KGB members in a little black car waiting to snatch me because I'm their ninetieth messiah, it would still be fun.

I will take that raincheck. With any luck, I'll one day be able to reciprocate properly. Too bad it won't be here - this was a pretty nice watering hole, and felt very permanent. Perhaps I'll be back one day.

I'll likely be scrawling away here quite a bit less for a while - end times are come to the Caves, and I am trying to reduce my life to a couple of bags to carry and a few boxes of books to leave behind for now - a neighbour has offered some storage space for the nonce. Soon I shall flit forth (Jeez Louise I hope this place sells soon), east to the cold flat places where houses are very cheap.

Damp Caverns will be dead as heck too (deader than usual), and may close - it seems connected to this island, and I expect a new place will result in a new blog.

Anyway, thanks again. I'd like to do the cognac and Swamp Yankee (Swamp Yankee?) thing one day, very much. Well, maybe not cognac. I've never liked brandy. More of a whiskey guy. Still, a man can change.

If I had much more time left here, Doc B., I'd be pleased to invite you up to my scruffy old deck for a taste of the local time-warping wonder and a sip of something or another. Wonder what a New England kid would make of our far-flung rocky fjords and (still damn near) endless trees.

Another time. Hope we both last long enough to get a chance or two. Perhaps, in a few weeks (or months - hmmmm, tricky, this uprooting business) time, I'll be Laird Farmer Reptor of the prairies, and can invite you up to the ranch (or the wheat farm or whatever - others handle these small details) for a rustic week.

Honestly, there were some pretty skookum share-cropping arrangements going out there for a song, as well as decent small farms. 50 acres seeded to alfalfa (which I'm told indicates it's likely good soil), irrgation gear in place, farmhouse included (and not bad, either), decent coupla outbuildings - 50K! So cheap!

I guess you'd have to borrow a tractor now and again. Details, details.

I do ramble on. Hope you're happily tucked up warm with your Swamp Yankee. Global coolin's a-comin'.

And I'm moving to the prairies. Clever, huh? Front-row seats for the glacial wall's advance.

R.

P.S. That was kind of interesting, Mark.

11/17/2008 03:48:00 AM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Nonnymouse X: But if you take power away from those who have it, then YOU've got it, and the whole thing just repeats in a fully Wagnerian fashion. We've got to learn to accept shifting, differential positions within our power structures both as individuals and as blocs of individuals if we are ever to develop more adaptive and robust social protocols. Not going to be a short job.

P.S. You can also MANUFACTURE power. Just have a sense of your own 'size' as an individual, and work within horizons accessible to your mind and hands.

Or start a gang.

Bang bickety bang.

Seriously, though - there is no top and no pyramid for it to be on. There are a lot of different shapes and they change in size and colour, appear and disappear, advance and recede....

Lord Reptor.

11/17/2008 03:55:00 AM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

Seven, One, Eleven.

Dude.

R.

11/17/2008 03:56:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Hey Clan ...long time comin..

Here's an email on your little conundrum..

...>>>I've been walking past all these Obama/Biden signs out in front of
peoples houses these past several months and i didn't start to
register it until recently... but if you replace the "B" in Obama with
an "S" you get "Osama". Then take the word "Biden". All you have to do
with this name is simply insert the letters N,L and A...and what do
you get?... Binladen!!! So, no wonder, every time I've been looking at
all these Obama/Biden election signs, my subconsciousness has been
registering it as OSAMA Binladen! Sorry, but this is WAY too much to
be a coincincence!!! This is more on the order of massive
subliminials, and unfortunately, most people, to be totally honest
about it, are just TOO dumbed down to figure it out....>>>>

11/17/2008 09:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Clan Destine said...

Obama Been Laden

With the Mantle of Presidency.

Joe is Bidin' His Time.

waiting...

As Ass In Nation.

11/17/2008 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Clan Destine said...

Dear Author:

The reason you think that way is because the NWO has been working on your mind through Alex Jones.

I said Jones plays a cognitive dissonant duality with his "Resist-Resistance is Futile" mantra.

You disagree by agreeing. You've been completely cognitively dissonized.

You said:

"No he doesn't. He talks about the strategies for resistance every day. The way to resist is to spread knowledge and to re-empower ourselves, our families, our communities. And yes, preparedness is part of empowerment. The idea being that if they do neutron-bomb Washington, we'll be ready. They can't neutron bomb the entire country."

We'll be ready???? This is your defense of Alex Jones not being a fear monger?

And why CAN'T the entire country be neutroned? Why not nuke half the country and send in the spiders to deal with the other half? What's stopping them? You yeah that's right, Alex Jones is stopping them by "informing you." This is resistance?


You say:

"Even if they can monitor us all, if we all get wise to them and give them the collective finger, they can't grab us all."

What are you, 14 years old?
Yeah, let's just raise our middle finger to them collectively... that'll show them. Being "wise" to the army coming over the hill is not much of a defense.

You said

"They can't send in the troops to take over a country where everyone is the militia."

Why send in troops when you've got nuke's and warrior spiders and nerve gas and satellite weapons and bio-warfare agents and electron beam pain cannons, earthquake, tornado and hurricane machines?
And besides... everyone in the country is NOT militia. Most people in the country would attack the militia as "THE ENEMY" if their television told them to.

You also said:

"And speaking of which, for all the folks out there who are a little squeamish about guns and stuff, and are paranoid about the term "militia" because you've swallowed all the NWO hype about white supremacists in every closet: the whole idea of the militia is to be there to save your sorry scared-of-guns ass when They come to get you."

That's why Alex Jones is such an effective agent. His personality type is meant to be married to the "gun type." Rejection by Association. Alex Jones' main job is to keep Leftists from arming themselves.

Why do you think Jones is so obnoxious? It is an act. His job is to see to it that all those who are enemies of the NWO SHOW themselves, while simultaneously engaging in hyperbolic hysterics to sour the notion of "reasonableness" and taint the field for the uninitiated.
It's not white supremacist types that turn people off defending themselves with a gun... it's Alex Jones' frothing rhetoric.

Take somebody who is NOT NWO savvy.
Set them down in front of the radio for one hour of Alex Jones (any hour, it doesn't matter). After that first virgin hour that person will be either a) frightened b) appalled and put off my this raving maniac.

Alex acts like a coked out freak on his radio show... ranting, raving, screaming, laughing maniacally, interrupting, repeating himself and his mantra over and over. He plays music and sings over it as deliberately out of key as possible. He screams in hostility and aggression at disagreeable phone-in calls trying his best to be as insane and threatening as possible.

So, Alex Jones, the voice of reason (NOT), is on the air doing WHAT exactly? Preparing you to give the finger to incoming nukes? Preparing you to fear the oppressive measures waiting to be deployed? Preparing you with info so you know just before you die who is killing you?

"They are going to squeeze you until your eyes pop out. They are the Gods of the Earth now."

Alex JUST said that live on his show.

I think they pay him in gold and silver.

You said:

"To not hear the solutions that Alex advocates is to undergo some highly selective listening!"

I hear the solutions suggested by Alex. They are as follows...
buy anything you can afford from PrisonPlanet or Infowars, if you can't afford it then copy it and distribute it. The only solution Alex offers is for you to become an agent to increase his fame and broadcast perimeter.

And one last thing. Bill Cooper was not killed by the IRS... nor was he killed because he refused to file.
Bill Cooper died in an ambush/arrest wherein he resisted.
The arrest warrant was over a past local dispute where Bill "brandished" his weapon and threatened someone with it. The person reported him with a complaint. The cops acted on the complaint.

11/17/2008 01:29:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Ericswan: That is friggin' hilarious.

We had a development company calling itself Yrainucep come up here from Vancouver and trick the local council into a lot of silly fool decisions, after which they f*^ked off with the real estate money they flipped up by telling a lot of sadly obvious lies. People really do miss this stuff. I mean, they must have said to themselves, "these illiterate hicks will never notice this little joke, nor our little tricks" (of which I'd bet NLP-type techniques form a part, even if contracted out from a pro ad company that can afford real sociologists).

And they were right.

Wow, we could be way more screwed than I thought. I'm glad I'm heading to underpopulated zones (the town I'm sniffing around right now had a population of 46 people as of last census, for example). Less dummies around = better chances.

To a point. One needs others. But not really stupid others so much, though I'll feed them when they ride the rods out to my remote hide (if I get one - this market is a homeless-making b*stard).

Damn, that is funny. I love anagrams.

R out.

11/17/2008 01:42:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Max Keiser
on Alex Jones' show today.
Check it out.
Good stuff.
www.infowars.com
click on "listen now"
if you have 4 hours to kill.
I do tonight.
:)

11/17/2008 07:19:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

@Fletch: You know, I,ve been enjoying the run'n'gun on this board about good ol' A. Jones. I don't really have a dog in the race as it were, just a viewpoint and an interest (already posted).

But as to the 4 hours...well, I've got the local community radio going on my apparently funtional-again 'net - it's been African music, Indian chants, modern balladeering - so much more reassuring than all this awful stuff going on. And pretty enlightening too so far. I wish Mr. Jones well, but I've got smaller fish to fry.

Well, actually, I've got a jar of ragu to heat. But one man's fish is another's sphaghetti - um - yeah.

Later,

R.

11/17/2008 07:35:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Reptor,
"I guess you'd have to borrow a tractor now and again. Details, details."
eventually, when the North American economy completely craps out Like Iceland's has..
No food on the shelves, mad max dudes driving around, you'll be lucky if the readers of this blog don't crash your ranch.
Dude.
@the author, again, thank you for adressing the issues about Jones that certain people have in the way that you do.
It's kind of creepy, though to see my exact thoughts appear before I type them.

11/17/2008 07:36:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Clan destine,
I cannot believe you used NOT.
that's funny.
you're too much.
Okay...
have you sat someone down to watch Alex Jones for an hour?
how many people did this scientific study include?
what was the control group, Rush Limbaugh?
You make zero sense.
This one's a doozy, Clan destine:
"His job is to see to it that all those who are enemies of the NWO SHOW themselves, while simultaneously engaging in hyperbolic hysterics to sour the notion of "reasonableness" and taint the field for the uninitiated.
It's not white supremacist types that turn people off defending themselves with a gun... it's Alex Jones' frothing rhetoric."
Ok,
first,
His "job"... you really think he's a pawn, i get that.
it just doesn't make sense.
You're asserting that he's so "upsetting" but you agree with pretty much everyhing he says, you just get I dunno, what, scared (?) of him?
buck up lil' fella. Tougher times and tougher talk than his ahead.

11/17/2008 07:52:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis Igou said...

Being somewhat of a Gnostic I tend to see the world in good and bad. Mr Clan is spot on! The human condition needs nothing but the positive. To be negative is to adhere to the sky is falling. Militia types around here are ugly people inside and out. There are not the only one's that can protect themselves. Mostly inbred rednecks. Fletcher,Doc Bombay and others who chime in here at RI with minds that harbor racist and right wing prattle, should listen more and not dominate the rap jack if you have nothing new to say. Same old jinguistic non-sense. How will we make a better existance,now? What can you do to make things better? Complaining is for angry old men with skinny legs.I appreciate many posts here but this Baby man Alex Jones cognitive nightmare affinity has run it's course. There will always be rednecks. Can such mentalities be enlightened? My last word about AJ, really. Respectfully, Dennis from Oregon.

11/17/2008 07:57:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Clan Destine:
Fear is the Mind Killer,
Just because what Alex says "scares" you does NOT make him a "fear monger".
Am i a "fear monger" if I tell you to run out of the burning building?
I mean seriously.
He's dedicated himself to "fighting the New World Order" that you know exists.
THAT's why he sings to music on his show and rants like a coked out maniac. He's a real human being reacting to the INSANITY of his situation. Like to see you do half the "job" AJ does...EVERYDAY (except saturday-he's on the radio...good gosh) and not want to sing once in a while.
His singing's not that bad, for serious.
:*

11/17/2008 08:00:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Oh O Kay Dennissss
don't worry be frickin' happy huh?
come on !
ha !
You resort to infintile name calling with Jones because you are a childish person, fearing the reality you cannot grasp...or something. .

11/17/2008 08:06:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Deniss Igou said:
"The human condition needs nothing but the positive."
what a f-ing LOAD OF SHIT.
please.
you are dead to me.

11/17/2008 08:08:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

sorry dennis but really,
adversity is what makes humanity shine. I think predators are built into the very fabric of reality to enable survival..in the deepest sense of the word.
We are animals who need to rise above out human nature as a species.
Pretty hard to do that in the face of such utter tyranny that is to come.
we are at our best when things are at their worst.

11/17/2008 08:16:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

maybe more "ensure" than enable really.
poor choice of word on my part.
But to expand on that,
I'm not advocating for the Predatory system of government.
I'm simply saying, it's the way it's always been, in the animal kingdom for sure. In the human animal experience there will be choices:

Fight
or
Go along with the system
or
Die

(you could also say that running is a choice..but it would ultimately lead to death of one kind or another)

11/17/2008 08:24:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Oh and Dennis, thank you for declaring, "this Baby man Alex Jones cognitive nightmare affinity has run it's course." (whatever a "cognitive nightmare affinity" is.....)
so officially, we won't talk about him, huh? Thanks for being dismissive of someone JEFF mentions in his own post on the blog that you comment on....
see?
can't you SEE????
It seems like you're trying to discredit the man behind your own half-baked beliefs.
what is it you really disagree with him on?

11/17/2008 09:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Belliosto also wants to know the latest report on what Crowley's Lam has to say about current events.


In April 2002 I attended a Homeland Security Exposition in Mesquite, TX hosted by Clayton Douglas, editor of The Free American magazine. At this three day gathering I witnessed Alex Jones shout at the top of his lungs like I have never heard him do before or after about how the NWO is a reality that we have to oppose. After that Anthony Hilder literally shouted directly at me during his speech about how "they" killed his friend William Cooper. These gentlemen have no reason to shout at any one about anything. The place certainly was not packed to capacity but it was enjoyable enough to actually meet some of these people and listen to what they had to say. Keep in mind I involved myself with a nationwide grassroots organization after attending this gathering and lived in TX for about 2 1/2 months. So imagine this paragraph you just read shouted at you at the top of my lungs at a gathering that I spoke at. Also read the rest of my writing as if I am shouting directly at you.

Based on my personal experience working with this grassroots organization (Jim Conduit Jr. Vote Reform) and watching a documentary about talking figure heads communicating behind the scenes when they do not realize that the mics are on, I don't remember the name of that one, I have learned that people who we are used to watching and hearing daily are entirely different people when the mics and cameras are turned off. Just like Oprah these hosts like to pose with reputable individuals on their shows and showcase the fact of how so and so is on the show and how the host is concerned about the guest's cause. Explaining how important the cause is and how you can get involved by contacting said guest. Behind the scenes individuals who represent the guest's cause communicate with the host about how the host can work with them concerning this most important cause to involve yourself with and find out how they can utilize the host's influence further. Remember the host has also said that the cause is of most importance publicly. But the representatives of the cause are shafted privately by the host. So if you do involve yourself with the very cause the representatives, if honest, must tell you that the host of the show is not interested.

So a solution to a problem is presented by the host and the host has no concern for the solution behind the scenes. Does that make sense? The host has the aura of being an actual leader of a cause but realistically is not interested in it after the show is finished.

So I say join with the guest. I don't care about it at all and most of my viewers think that I do.

At the top of my lungs I would appreciate it if you continue lending to me your grizzled ear drums a little while longer.

The organized militia in the country did nothing to assist the innocent victims during the siege at Waco. Timothy McVeigh was upset about the fact and decided to do something about it. After he blew up the federal building in Oklahoma City the organized militia disbanded. It is a known fact that the militia groups in the US were and are infiltrated with state and federal informants. Much more than the Black Panthers ever had.

Today grown men realize that the militia types are at their best when fighting imaginary enemies in the woods. Ghosts pretty much. They offer some of the best education you can receive but their truest enemies are their own suicidal armed and dangerous feeble-minded soldiers lingering at what would normally be peaceful vicinages occupied with chirping birds and bird droppings.

11/17/2008 10:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Clan Destine said...

Just for the record fletch...
and to clear up any confusion...

I am personally not afraid of Alex Jones or what he says.
In fact I find him hilarious.
What I was saying was that "the uninitiated" find Alex scary. Leftist find Alex scary. Small children find Alex scary. Women find Alex scary. Average Americans find Alex scary. Why? Because he is trying his hardest to be scary. He is trying be be as loud and appalling obnoxious as he possibly can. He is trying to be off-putting.

The information he prattles on about is almost 100 percent true. This is beside the point. The point is that he is publicizing this information in the most scientifically ineffective way.
Preaching to the chorus is not going to save America. Making everybody who is not part of the chorus "turn off" the message because it is being bellowed by a neanderthal with a deficiency in anger management and patience- is not going to save America.

At this late hour, he is the perfect voice for ensuring America's demise. He is doing exactly the opposite what a sincere "leader" should do.

Imagine Kirk or Picard, or William Wallace, or ANY EFFECTIVE LEADER, have a whining, drooling, slobbering, hissy-fit in front of their troops. Ranting and Raving, Stuttering and Bellowing, head about to explode... mood swinging like an epileptic elephant's trunk: "The enemy is too powerful! We are going to be crushed!!!!WAAAAAA WAAAAAA. Look how EVIL they are. This is INCREDIBLE. Save us Jesus!!!!"
Alex does this routine everyday.

I find him SO transparent, that to me, it's funny. I listen to Alex in the background while I am working... to be entertained.
I get my Illuminati studies elsewhere. Alex's data stream in that regard is meant for mass consumption, and to whit, kind of kindergarden-like and somewhat retarded (but entertaining).

You think I am a "lightweight" because you imagine that Jones' message "scares" me... and because I used the expression "NOT."
You would take that sentiment back, I'll warrant, if you knew the shapes and subjects of MY nightmares.

I would submit Fletch that it is YOU who doesn't know what is coming - right over the horizon. I mean EXACTLY. If you did, you would know what a valuable role Jones plays in its fulfillment.

The religion dictates that:

Three items of prophecy must be fulfilled, on schedule, at the decline of the 6000 year cyclic calender.
1) The ritualized transform of base matter into pure energy (Trinity Site, New Mexico - 33rd parallel).
2) The "Killing of the King" ritual (KingKill33Kennedy, Dallas, Texas - 33rd Parallel)
3) Make Manifest All That Is Hidden. Ritualized publication of the conspiracy. The HAND is revealed as it is about to strike.
It is written.

That's where good ol' Alex comes in.
He got promoted when Cooper went rogue, went crazy, and was terminated.

"All that was hidden will be revealed."

Alex Jones is a publicist for the Illuminati. Whether he is a PAID publicist is the other argument.
I bet you his wife doesn't even know the correct answer to that one (though I am sure she thinks she does).

There was an executioner in Old England called Pierpont. He killed hundreds of condemned. He wore a hood on the job. His wife spent their entire marriage unaware that her husband was England's most prolific executioner.

11/17/2008 10:28:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Oh you dazzle me with your obscure executioner knowledge, you do, but, to describe Jones as
"a neanderthal with a deficiency in anger management and patience-" and then to add, "is not going to save America"
is double fold inanity.
good luck you zombie.
Alex *really* doesn't rant and rave *that* much.
you don't listen to him at work for *fun*
are you paid to listen to him so you can spin his more obvious personality traits into some kind of fantasy about him being some NWO lackey (unknowingly or knowingly) and that makes what he says (that you say almost 100% of it's correct) too scary for the poor uninitiated..
you talk yourself into a labrynth that has no end.
as far as "saving america"...
Jones does believe he's fighting a battle that he is on the winning side of.
Not because of "militia types".
he's counting on enough people waking up and being prepared with food and gold, and guns right?
that's where ui kind of get sidetracked by Jones for sure, I mean there's a point when you'll run outt aammo and food and gold.
let's try to be proactive, eh? That's what Alex Jones is all about.
That does scare you.

11/17/2008 10:54:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

but really, there is no saving America. we all know that.
The first step in avoiding a trap is knowing of its existence

11/17/2008 10:56:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis Igou said...

Fletcher, I consider Alex Jones a racist. I also think he stands behind the flag instead of in front of it. I view his bombastic vitirol negatively. I have witnessed his minions in person here in bug-tussel. I view them as narrowminded red necks/bigots. I have perused his web site for years. I too want to know what my enemy is up to. Same refuse as Rush and Savage. Why in earth are you so worked up about? Has your reality taken a hit? Are you too blind with your prejudices to not witness how destructive AJ is? Are you so desperate with your animal instincts ? Are you threatened? Is anyone after you? Quit glorifing someone who is afraid of his own shadow. Alex Jones and his kind are making you a slave to fear. Go for a walk in the country and explore your potential, contemplate your existance, without the bullhorn. (The reason I want a time out with AJ is because I am tired talking with a red neck. Dennis

11/17/2008 11:02:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

clan destine, you said: (about Jones)
"The information he prattles on about is almost 100 percent true. This is beside the point. The point is that he is publicizing this information in the most scientifically ineffective way."
what does that even mean????
hey-whatever you have to tell yourself man.
the fact that you find him so "offputting' i find pretty hilarious. But frustrating. Enough people out there doubt the existence of the new World Order & people like Jones who try to expose the evil NWO get enough shit from jokers who love Rush Limbaugh....sheeesh.

11/17/2008 11:09:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Dennis,
You consider alex Jones a racist?
give me ONE fact to back that shit up.

11/17/2008 11:12:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

"stands behind the flag instead of in front of it"?
can you possibly make an even more vague, broad-brushed, ridiculous statement?
I bet you can!!!!!

11/17/2008 11:15:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

"Quit glorifing someone who is afraid of his own shadow. Alex Jones and his kind are making you a slave to fear."
utter nonsense.
Jones ain't afraid of nuthin. If you ever listened to him you'd know.
and please.
I am no slave to fear.
It's scary, for sure, but a slave to it?
what are YOU afraid of? Is what Jones says too scary??? i know it is! he knows it's fucked up. It IS!!!
he's just being REALISTIC sorry that that scares you to the point that you lash out against him.
Don't shoot the messenger and all that shit.

11/17/2008 11:23:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

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11/17/2008 11:29:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

let me celaborate on the "ain't afraid of nuthin" statement.
he's got balls. you gotta give him credit for that. I am sure he has darker fears than even you can imagine. for sure.
you don't like the bullhorn...
cry me a river,
build a bridge and get over it...!

11/17/2008 11:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A couple of years ago I read on the internet stuff that was written about Jones by professionals that worked at the same independent studio in Austin as him. They testified that he was always complaining about being treated unfairly and that he often threatened many people that worked there and visited. For example a teenager stopped by to visit and Jones had said to him that his tee shirt was proof that he was a NWO servant. Jones was always trying to get things his way and did not like to compromise his time slots and the like. He was known to always play the bully there. Something happened and several of the men who worked there got fed up with him. Jones allegedly was asked to step outside over the issue and he did. The man who challenged him approached him to finally beat him up and Jones faked that he had a gun in his pocket bantering as the man beat the hell out of him. I guess he was screwing other producers positions there by changing time slots and manipulating the goings on with scheduling where he was attempting to take advantage of all kinds of planning as an independent television producer with his own hands.

11/17/2008 11:42:00 PM  

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