Friday, May 09, 2008

I needed to look away for a while...

...and I'm finding it harder than expected to look back.

I'm working on a lengthy post that touches a number of subjects but it hasn't jelled for me quite yet. I'm hoping to have it up in this space soon. (That's the illustration for it.) Regardless, there's always the forum.


Anonymous Anonymous said...


5/09/2008 06:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shut the hell up, Anonymous, and get off his back and get a life you freak!!

5/09/2008 07:07:00 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Wow these 2 comments sound like a chapter out of Spy vs. Spy
Instead it is A vs. A.

I hope that the same person is not having this dialogue, on 2nd thought, well, maybe it would be cool to have dialogue with yourself like that!

Anyways looking forward to Jeff's next post.

Thanks for the peak at the art work!

5/09/2008 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hasn't jellied quite yet?

5/09/2008 08:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck Jelly!

5/09/2008 08:54:00 PM  
Blogger zowoco said...

You have some odd comments going on there! I can't help but be impressed with the way your post is dated 09 May and here I am today reading it!

Could you share with me the technique you have for 1. getting a top ranking under "intuition blog" in google search and 2. how it is your posts are so quickly ranked?

Is there a software package you have purchased that achieves this? Or do you have some other secret? Feel free to email me privately on
Many thanks! xx :)

5/09/2008 11:03:00 PM  
Blogger shishkabob said...

Looks like mother's day is gonna be a bitch.

5/10/2008 12:19:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Hey Fruc..

Here's the link to the Essene Gospel.

5/10/2008 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ericswan, found that website a couple of days ago. Funny you should mention it. Has a lot of information that isn't normally seen. Jeff, Godspeed on your article. Everything that you write about makes you think and think hard... and that's a good thing.


I'm all lost in the supermarket
-The Clash

5/10/2008 03:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does this blog guarantee my personality?

No longer shopping happily,


5/10/2008 07:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The best blog out there...period. Well done Jeff!

5/10/2008 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok who got a Salvia flashback from Jeff's image? And Jeff, seriously, smoke that salvia -- or is it legal in Canada?

5/10/2008 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Jeff,

Why do you not post as frequently as before that time you switched to your new blog site? I really enjoyed reading your posts (several times per week!) and found the themes and topics extremely important. Your blogs were current, insightful, penetrating, well written and well researched. Really, one of the best blogs out there.

What's the reason?....just curious.

Thanks and God Bless.


5/10/2008 03:14:00 PM  
Blogger susan said...

I've been reading you for years and understand the difficulties encountered as history adds its weight of expectations to a burdoned intellect and conceptual imagination. It takes more time to sort. Your images are consistently elegant and beautiful. I'll wait patiently for the post.

5/10/2008 04:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O.K. I read through that link until I got to this:

Wang Li Ping, who is btw not Lei Shan Dao, although Lei Shan Dao is one of the lines he is a lineage holder of.

So it would seem that the whole "lineage" angle is a bit multi-faceted.

I think what Lee was saying about "secrecy" is really the central issue -- this goes back to the BUSHMEN btw.

When I was reading "Healing Makes Our Hearts Happy" -- a recent book on Bushmen powers (the same as qigong) -- it was reported that

Some of the male healers liked to covet and build up their N/UM which is "boiling heat" -- the same as jing.

This was considered a big no-no so the females would throw water on the males to bring them out of spirit travel as the N/um was supposed to be freely shared.

Of course the younger people have stronger N/UM but it's the healers that can transmute that electrochemical energy into electromagnetic energy.

Anyway secrecy seems to be required to do this and it would appear to make people afraid of certain Bushmen healers (which is the tradition going back to 80,000 BCE!! -- it's the original source for qigong and yoga, etc.)

The concept of "secrecy" is just that a CONCEPT -- empty awareness will

ALWAYS REMAIN VEILED, just like the Cosmic Mother.

Who are we to hold secrets? Haha. But then consciousness is NOT "power" rather it's the source of power.

So, for example, I was just the subject of strong anger at work because I came across information that was supposed to be secret, even though I work in a grassroots community organization and we promote the "community right to know" law. Corporate secrecy was established when corporations became legally "people" -- at the Robberbaron Gilded Age after the Civil War.

So, since I was sitting in full-lotus, as usual, I just absorbed the anger as EXTRA energy and then transmuted that female electrochemical energy into bliss-love and then just shot it back into the person who was in need of light, since they had depleted their energy as anger.

It's just harmonics and it's impersonal. After we EXORCISE the emotions then peace and natural euphoria are truly restored -- the "secret" of a CONCEPT is freed back to

Empty Awareness.

And so the "power" circulates in Nature with no "one" being more powerful than any "other."

5/10/2008 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I tell you what G-boy I've been reading Jeff since the very beginning and never commented because that's just how I am. But fuck me you piss me right off. I am fucking replete with anger right up my bliss-ass shooting nothing but utter disdain through my third fucking eye right into your full-lotus-sitting-in-fucking Mcdonalds-giving little girls orgasms-spamming-patheticness. Just take that shit somewhere else. You're old and published, surely you've got better things to do than to post that old springforest qigong shit incessantly, with no regard for the current conversation? Fuck off you complete twat.

5/10/2008 07:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm still really pissed-off, so just to clarify I know springforest or whatever the fuck it is wasn't mentioned in the post but it's all the same shit. How can a supposedly learned person have the gall to just post random shit that has nothing to do with anything, that begins, "Haha yes that question about the empty female formless harmonic Bushpeople is great and addressed by the five books I read today and by the old woman I made cry earlier by giving her an orgasm or some shit". How does it feel to totally ruin a persons' experience of something that was previously engaging, you cocksucker?
For anyone who read that apart from G-boy - I apologise for the language.

5/10/2008 07:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Just quit. Seriously. I don't mean this in an angry or spiteful way. You don't have any responsibility to fix the world--you've done more than enough already. Live your life, love your wife and kids and be happy. Death is certain.


If you want to finish your book or publish something on a rare occasion, that's cool too, but don't feel bad about just walking away.

5/10/2008 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff makes me moist.

Satan bless you,


5/10/2008 08:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't listen to that evil anonymous, Drew. You're the best, and the reason I keep coming back.

5/10/2008 08:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess I AM "published" considering Andrew Hennessey posted the below on May 9th, 2008 (an excerpt follows):

"They appear to have ambitions to harvest the human populations.

From the birth of Radio Eugenics in the 1960's to its more advanced
ideas as seen in the world Transhuman Movement that occur from the
1990's, Transhumanism has become a global organization of scientists
who advocate uploads for all, and who give deference to the rise of
the super intelligent machine.
Although they are anti-irrationalist and anti-religious and sound
convincing there are currently no publications anywhere that would
justify their own faith in the success of human technology to achieve
their stated goals.
Drew Hempel notes that in 1975 Oliver Reiser and the World Institute
editor Ervin Laszlo published the real Matrix plan called Cosmic
Humanism and World Unity.
According to Hempel, the 1975 book calls the plan, The Matrix
prominently and repeatedly many years before the Hollywood film, and
states that humans will be in Techno-Samadhi as the neuroblasts and
Electronic tubes for the new World Mother. According to this plan, the
embryo of this mother is in the middle of the earth and like an egg,
the humans and the environment are to be fed off as energy for the
evolution of the Matrix. Radio-Eugenics is still openly promoted by
the World Institute – except now it is called orthosynthesis. In
Techno-Samadhia [sic.] a person does not breath or think words – they are
hooked up to satellite systems and used as energy that controls and
manipulates higher dimensional space-time. This to me sounds like the
inside of an alien hive. This is all detailed in Cosmic Humanism and
World Unity – the actual plan for the Matrix.
The essence of this plan is to create a new global religion called
cosmic humanism now called transhumanism – or in general
This matrix plan sounds like the language and ideology of grey and
reptilian hive creation and its consumption and harvesting of spirit
as described is how I understand that the hive process works. I have
spoken to people who are hooked up to or fighting the assimilation
process of this collective. It is an empty and hungry hive that needs
new people to feed from to keep its higher echelons in the manner to
which they have become accustomed as they roll across this galaxy. I
suspect that a large amount of human population has been handed over
in trade to these beings."

And what can us poor Neanderthals do to fight off this Cro-Magnon, uumm, I mean Reptilian Invasion....

Full-lotus natural resonance revolution.

5/10/2008 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

publish your RI book and for the sake of your own sanity give the RI blog a break.

The flow of nonsense will drive anyone batty or at the very least cloud the third eye.

5/10/2008 09:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cro-Magnons suffer from sleep paralysis while "awake." Being awake is just when our subconscious perceptions control us and then when we "dream" at night the truth is revealed via our cerebellum. Sitting in full-lotus during the day enables this Cro-Magnon sleep paralysis-walking to be reversed so that the cerebellum truth is immediately apparent and can be acted on right away.

5/10/2008 09:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This blog died a while back. I would like to know WHO GOT TO JEFF? His blog obviously made someone VERY nervous. Did he receive personal threats? Did somebody threaten to not publish his book? Somebody got to him.

And what about this book? It has yet to materialize. There is no book.

Jeff, somebody should have told you that you're not safe in Canada. It is not another country. It is the U.S. - Part of Pax-Americana. The U.S OWNS "Canada".

You must have really pissed off somebody in Fort Meade.

Good job!

5/10/2008 09:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparently you've read this already?

5/10/2008 10:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Jeff, if you feel compelled to write to or for us,let it flow with inspiration. The deadline effect will only degrade and dilute your gnosis. Of course we want your take on life. The crux of your blog will always engage many of us at RI. My current distraction here at RI is our PATHETIC GGG. His inane soap box on your blog is whack. When someone co-opts anothers dynamic blog it is wrong on all levels. RI is something of a community.The syncromystic blogspotters have RI in their list of must see blogs. It truly is for me. Shineforth Jeff and all here at RI. I look foward to listening to you all.(Except GGG). Respectfully, Dennis from Oregon.

5/11/2008 12:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff, I'm in the f**king dark, bro. Throw me a beam, man!

5/11/2008 02:21:00 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

The woman watches the processed cocoa powder flowing down the sifting conveyor.

Her son complains at last "where is my hot chocolate mommy, I want my cocoa?"

5/11/2008 02:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Your posts are always worth the wait. Take your time. We're here.

5/11/2008 03:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then, after a seemingly interminable wait Jeff's post finally appeared. But what did it mean:

redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum..........

5/11/2008 04:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's not panic people. Anyone care to one-up me on the below?

5/11/2008 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Happy Mother's Day, Jeff. Take your time and fuck all these leeches, like I taught you. They take but don't give. Go find another tit you fuckin vampiric bastards and leave my boy in peace. A watched pot never boils, you jackasses.

5/11/2008 11:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5/11/2008 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While all of you bloodsuckers are waiting for your latest transfusion from Jeff, here's a little somethin for ya, and it goes right along with what Drew just posted. Shake Your Booty.

5/11/2008 01:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I made some comment about what 500 years of slavery did to dancing and clothing style I'd probably get banned. Still that 22 sec. clip of the Somalian lady kisses KC's ass big-time.

Why not HTML it for me? haha.

5/11/2008 03:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's put it this way. How many hours have you sat in full-lotus TODAY?!?

I don't keep track anymore. On a good day I have 20 mutual climaxes with females -- we both have internal climaxes after I use my pineal gland to shoot electromagnetic energy into them while the full-lotus sucks up their electrochemical energy.

20 climaxes means I don't get hungry if I don't eat. Last summer I went 3 days with no food and no hunger -- just ecstasy.

That's religion to me.

The best I went was 8 days on only HALF a glass of water. The electromagnetic fields were so strong I healed my mom so she didn't need surgical stockings, I freaked my friends out, I pulled this old lady's spirit out of her head by accident, I saw dead spirits coming to hear Master chunyi Lin during his qi-emitting lecture, when I sat in full-lotus the room kept spinning around me.

That's when I stopped practicing and my channels closed up a bit but then Master Chunyi Lin stuck his finger to my forehead and this magnetic bliss burned up my pineal gland making it permanently magnetized with bliss.

From 11 to 1 at noon and at midnight the third eye automatically opens up everyday. But I just sit in full-lotus and have about 10 internal climaxes a day. At the full-moon the energy is strongest 3 days before and after and especially strong at the equinox full moons.

Precognition, telepathy, telekinesis, psychic healing and euphoria. These can all be the norm just by practicing:

5/11/2008 03:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK this is also in response to the PM -- it's very simple yet very powerful. Talk is cheap -- conceptual thought is the problem. So when people go on and on about various "models" -- that's a joke.

The practice is this: NONWESTERN MUSIC APPLIED TO THE BODY. Specifically something called the "microcosmic orbit" aka "the small universe" -- it's the 12 notes of the scale resonating from the sound in your head into ultrasound which ionizes your electrochemical energy to create blissful heat and then futher ionizes it to create electromagnetic fields. Finally this creates light which bends spacetime back to consciousness.

That's all there is to it. The basic text is "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" by Charles Luk. Once you "lay the foundation" then it's permanent -- it's like a cook book. Just practice, follow the instructions precisely, and just get to about chapter 8 or 10 in that book.

Having a master transmit energy to you is of course very helpful as is having a quiet, isolated place to practice, and the younger you are the easier it is.

Music is not a cult -- it's who we are and the basis for all religion. For all my theory, analysis and model you can read my blogbook --

But if you're really serious then just order the "small universe" level 1 sitting meditation c.d. from the "In the Store" at It's $11.

5/11/2008 04:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How is it that there are NO customer reviews for Jeff's book on Amazon?

Also, Amazon has no copies for sale.


Anon#1 had me ROFLMAO!

5/11/2008 05:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say,GGG old chap. If you posted all this fascinating information on your own blog we would all go and read you there - not


5/11/2008 06:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A picture is worth a thousand words

5/11/2008 10:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Inter planetary 9 volt surf sparkle...enjoy. (close your ears g)

5/11/2008 11:24:00 PM  
Blogger Alice said...

Can ya please pass the jelly?


5/12/2008 01:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's what that graphic said to me:

"Soylent Green is PEOPLE!"

Ahem. Hey, great galactic ghoul--
Don't you have anything else better to do than blather here about qi-gong and sitting in a lotus position?

I mean, c'mon, what kind of freakin' idiot are you, anyway?

5/12/2008 02:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dreamt of g to the 3 last night. I'm not sharing the details, but I thought you all would like to know. There's more to him posting here than meets the eye. The astute observer already knows that and has taken the proper precautions.

5/12/2008 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deep down I knew there was something very wrong with this show...

5/12/2008 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That was awfully catchy, Alice. Just who do you think you're fooling, Alice?

5/12/2008 09:00:00 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

It was asked earlier, about steered hurricane evidence based on something I posted in the last thread.

I suggest you (or Jeff) look into the 2004 and 2005 hurricane seasons: Katrina (2005), Rita (2005), and previously Charley (2004) paths.

It seems Jeff is looking for novel fields to plow. He might try looking in the mirror and breaking some of his own taboos that have self-limited his analysis of the world:

- controlled demolition on 9-11,
- weather control,
- Canadian genocide of Native peoples linked to Nazi doctors experiments in Canada after WWII
- just where is that owl sculpture near Montreal that is worshipped with presumed human sacrifice?
- the Illuminati,
- long term historical issues about secret societies
- the group demotion of Canada, U.S. and Mexico
- gasp, real taboos of the Zionist party power without falling for the simplism that it is anti-semitic to discuss it; of course there is anti-semitism that is very real, that is the danger that it would encourage racists and fascists, though it's an exquisite cover, isn't it, if some Zionists themselves were racist and fascist themselves, eh? Just ask (Jewish) authors

Lenni Brenner or
Edwin Black or
Barry Chamish or
Clifford Shack or
ex-Mossad katsa Victor Ostrovsky

who've done more than blogged about the issue of this touchy point of global parapolitics.

You know, a few minor issues like this (sarcasm) might bring new life into Jeff's blog's bloviating away the existence of these these issues pretending he's really covering something important.

So, onto hurricanes:

Strange turns of U.S.-bound hurricanes in the past few seasons.

While You Were Out:


_x__Charley, 2004
_x__Katrina, 2005
_X__Rita, 2005

called and said

_X__lookout for HAARP effects.
___ pay no attention to the man behind the storm front.


quotes from the day in 2005:

""made a right turn at the last minute."

The [Katrina] storm turned out not to be as catastrophic as forecasters predicted for most of New Orleans, because the storm made a right turn at the last minute, and the eye missed New Orleans by 10-15 miles.

Its minimum central pressure of 918 mb at the time of its Louisiana landfall makes it the third most intense system to strike the United States in recorded history. It is also estimated to be the costliest natural disaster in United States history.

At its largest, the eye of the storm itself was about 30 miles (48 km) wide. As of 6 a.m. CDT, the storm is moving toward the north at 15 mph (24 km/h). Hurricane force winds are predicted up to 150 nautical miles (278 km) inland, while the flooding rains will persist as far northward as the Great Lakes.

A mandatory evacuation was issued for the first time ever in New Orleans,...

Took out the oil rigs in the gulf, etc. How convenient. I have yet to hear about the repair of these. Anyone? These were the rigs, by the way, that were the ones used by Chavez's Venezuelan oil tankers, right? Remember how he put the fear of God in the American plutocrats with the curse word/phrase 'economic redistribution of oil profits' for the American cold and hungry poor a year ago?


More on Katrina:


quote comment:

The Insane are running the Asylum 29.Aug.2005 15:34
readerofstuff link

Last night on my local Fox's affiliate the meterologist, Sue Palka, commented that Katrina was taking an odd turn, one that she couldn't explain, but then she wasn't required to, and it was just an off hand comment. But with my research on the background of HAARP technology, it was pretty clear that the globalists have targeted this area for destruction. Looks like they also get to further restrict our oil and jack up the price with the added bonus, for they are Luciferians, of sacrificing poor people with the misfortune of not understanding the danger these sickos pose with their weather control.


Next, very cute. Know of any other hurricanes besides Katrina that 'hover'?


"As Katrina hovered over New Orleans for more than eight hours attacking with long, shuddering gusts, then pausing, as if taking a breath, and lunging and blowing once again..."

II. Charley, 2004

and the year before:

NEWS BRIEF: "Charley's Force Took Experts by Surprise", MyWay News, August 14, 2004

"Hurricane Charley's 145-mph force took forecasters by surprise and showed just how shaky a science it still is to predict a storm's intensity - even with all the latest satellite and radar technology. 'Most major hurricanes become major by going through a rapid intensification. This is the Number 1 area to research. I think that there is the perception out there because of the satellite photos and aircraft data, people do have faith in the technology and sometimes that faith is too much', Max Mayfield, National Hurricane Center director, told reporters Saturday in Miami, 24 hours after Charley slammed into Florida's western coast. 'A lot of people think we can give them a near perfect forecast. We know we can't give them a near perfect forecast'.Charley quickly grew from a Category 2 to a Category 4 storm Friday and its course took a sharp turn to the right,..."


more Charley:

Charley - Scalar Electromagnetics Used?
By Michael Edward
World Vision

When Charley was approaching Jamaica, the oddest thing took place. It was following a direct line path through the center of Jamaica, but suddenly it made a perfect arched curve to the south, and ended up back on its original course after it had swung around the island. That was just as odd as the sudden right-hand turn it made into Charlotte Harbor. There's no doubt that since hurricane paths have been recorded over the past 200 years, no hurricane ever acted like Charley did or had ever followed such an erratic path. This was one of the biggest reasons Tampa was the predicted landfall area.

There are lots of unanswered questions about Charley...

I. Katrina, back to Katrina season 2005 once more:

Similarly, with Katrina, there were few signs:

With Few Warning Signs, an Unpredictable Behemoth Grew
Published: August 29, 2005

As ripples of vapor-filled turbulence began to organize into a storm over the steamy waters of the southeastern Bahamas early last week, Tropical Depression 12 was born, giving few hints that it was an embryonic monster that would grow into Hurricane Katrina.


on Tuesday, forecasters at the National Hurricane Center in Miami noted that, GIVEN THE LACK of storm-shredding wind shear and the presence of ample heat in the Atlantic, "at least steady intensification appears to be in order."

From that time on, the storm kept favoring the upper end of the range of possibilities projected by meteorologists and a half-dozen supercomputer simulations.

By Wednesday evening, the hurricane center gave the first hint that what had already become a tropical storm "could intensify a little more than anticipated" and might become a small hurricane before striking southern Florida.

Still, when it struck Florida about 24 hours later - killing nine people and knocking out the electricity for a million more - its power seemed to catch many by surprise.

The storm kept "nudging" the upper limits of the predictions, said Bill Read, a meteorologist who is tracking the storm for the hurricane center. In an unusual manner, the storm kept its swirling shape and retained its strength as it quickly rumbled across the state.
[heading for New Orleans]


Forecasters then watched in wonder as a series of conditions, many of them poorly understood, caused the storm to do what no one [or someone...] wanted: intensify, expand and maintain a terrifying trajectory. [until a right turn into New Orleans area when it crossed enough of the Gulf, then a slight course correction to slam into the oil refineries more than the city.


You may dislike the implications, though the US military is on the public record wanting to globally "own the weather by 2025."

Steering and artificially creating hurricanes (or earthquakes) and testing them out in politically safe places and to create disaster management team strategies, are all of one piece.

In 1976 there was a U.N. Treaty, which Nations signed, promising not to affect each other using weather warfare. other words, the technology was available at least some degree.

THE QUICK COURSE CHANGE of Katrina, part two:

The last-minute gust also pushed Katrina slightly to the east of its Big Easy-bound trajectory, sparing New Orleans a direct hit.

"It was kind of an amazing sequence of events," said Peter Black, a meteorologist at the Hurricane Research Division of the federal government's Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory.

Katrina easily pumped itself up to a Category 5 hurricane, with top winds approaching 175 miles per hour. That afternoon a National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration aircraft flying through the storm pegged its minimum barometric pressure at 902 millibars, making Katrina the fourth most powerful hurricane ever observed.

So if it wasn't so powerful, how did Hurricane Katrina inflict so much destruction?

The storm's sheer size was one factor.

As powerful as Hurricane Charley was, that storm's swath of destruction was only about 10 miles wide.

Katrina battered everything from just west of New Orleans to Pensacola, Fla., a span of more than 200 miles.

At noon Monday, hurricane force winds extended 125 miles from Katrina's center.

...region's coastline extremely vulnerable to the storm surges that hurricanes create as their winds and low pressure pile up water and push it ashore. Katrina was moving fairly slowly, about 12 to 15 mph. That gave the storm surge more time to build up as the hurricane approached the coast and then moved inland. Those circumstances made Katrina "nearly a [well designed?] worst-case scenario," Hurricane Research Division meteorologist Stanley Goldberg said.

Well done, haarpers?


RITA & KATRINA: 1st evers:

1. TWO Category 5 hurricanes, in one season, first ever,
2. first ever two in Gulf in one season, much less Category 5,
3. and the clincher, both were on the EXACT same path

1.3M+ leave TX/LA
Author: various
Date: 2005.09.21 09:08
Description: Hurricane Rita...zipped from tropical storm to Category 5 hurricane in 30 hours--storm equivalent of racecar going 0 to 100 in nothing flat. --- first time ever in one hurricane season, two Cat 5's cross Gulf of Mexico on nearly identical paths. --- AIR FORCE HAS POWER TO 'ZAP' STORM, DEMOTE IT, THOUGH THEY DON'T, THEY JUST 'ZAP' PICTURE EVIDENCE OF STORM STEERING. [at link]

"President Bush, in a speech to the Republican Jewish Coalition [as Rita was bearing down on the USA], told residents, "listen carefully to the instructions provided by [your terrorist lackeys in the federal] state and local authorities, and follow them." reading between the lines he could have added: 'Cause when we finally get a more complete cleanout of New Orleans unlike Katrina, then we can really

1. take over your homes for corporate development purposes,

2. shut down media,

3. start martial law,

4. confiscate guns illegally,

5. have covert wet ops destroy infrastructure,

6. shoot witnesses,

7. test microwave crowd control devices,

8. build and populate FEMA camps so we can have practice for national martial law,

9. see how to starve you out properly,

10. import private paramilitary from Iraq, and

11. bring in more international troops to destroy you.

Every one of these points we did in Katrina. And it worked. That, America, is Bush's "response". he could have said:

'Thank you for being such a nation of fools 'too shocked' to move. God bless America. God bless FEMA. Let her rip, Mayfield and Chertoff. Power up that mother. Let's roll.'

Quoting some other news stories of the time:

"The effect of the warm Gulf waters was predictable. But Katrina left a mystery in its wake.

As Katrina passed over an eddy of the Loop Current in late August, it should have cooled the water by about 5 degrees Fahrenheit. It didn't and that surprised scientists."

Another strange issue is the 'square eye' of Katrina, along with some "haarp rippling" on the inside ring that feeds into the spiraling storm.

That is where you ideally electro-heat and tickle a storm to expand it said meteorologist and haarp/chemtrail watcher Mr. Stephens....)

Katrina obviously wasn't enough because they blew up the levees according to witnesses living in the 9th ward. Moreover, a year in advance the whole thing seemed planned out because investigation of the work of the U.S. Army Corp of Engineers showed that they had lied on their 'refurbishment' of the New Orleans levees and didn't drive the piles down to the required standards into the mud anyway to stabilize the levee, etc. They were Potemkin levees for show. Ready to be blown.

More illegal broken laws, later made law after the fact regarding posse commutatus: WHEN IT WAS ILLEGAL, FEMA ASKED PENTAGON to assemble MILITARY teams capable of handling 2,500 patients and field kitchens capable of feeding half a million displaced. "The most important thing that we're doing is working with the Department of Defense to use their assets...." said Acting FEMA Director R. David Paulison.
[Of course at that time, the Pentagon didn't have authority to do do this domestically which was put the federal military in operations within the USA much less over a state governor though that is just what they did--and they internationalized it as well by bringing in lots of foreign troops to do the dirty work during Katrina.

Title: International Troops of NORTHCOM activated for martial law in Katrina areas!
Author: me
Date: 2005.09.01 02:51
Description: god, they are so devious. This is real. International troop cohorts in the USA authorized as the mobilized groups for martial law in Katrina aras by "our" Pentagon. " The [neocon] Federal Emergency Management Agency asked the [neocon] Pentagon to activate its [neocon INVENTED] U.S. Northern Command's JOINT TASK FORCE in case troops were needed... We're gonna be reinventing New Orleans," said Bill Lokey, regional director of FEMA. [It's easier to do that once we have destroyed it, you see.]" The attempt to crumble the Posse Commutatus cookie has an internationalist feel...

newswire article reporting united states 28.Aug.2005 23:43
environment | katrina aftermath | technology
Hurricane Katrina STEERED for New Orleans? 3000 Louisiana Nat. Guard off in Iraq bogus war

Katrina has gone from Cat 1 to Cat 5 in [mere] days. It was even briefly downgraded lower than Cat 1 to a tropical storm as it left South Florida! Meterologists admit mystification--or feign mystification--at it.

Now, devastation from Katrina is to be around 500x worse than the damage delivered to South Florida.

A Category 5 hurricane does not cause five times as much damage as a Category 1. It causes 500 to 1,000 times the damage, hurricane scientists say, because the power of a storm increases exponentially as wind speeds grow.

What about weather war in South East Asia?

1. Aceh several years back? The 'rescue' led by the very troops leading the invasion on Iraq the year before? A standdown in the warning system to yield maximum damage and surprise? More 'shock doctrine' privatization and the oil there at Aceh being seized and legally 'restructured' as well?

Title: NAZI BUSH REGIME's ENVIRO/HAARP-REICHSTAG FIRE: seize Aceh oil militarily as "rescue"
Author: various
Date: 2004.12.30 12:23
Description: Why has a senior commander involved in the invasion of Iraq been assigned to lead the US emergency relief program? "Lieutenant General Blackman was previously Chief of Staff...leading the Marines into Baghdad..." [off to 'rescue' Aceh?] US Foreknowledge and Selective Warnings. Similar to 9-11, the automatic warning system STANDS DOWN to allow a terrorist act occur, hypothetically using the HAARP technology, to justify upcoming militarization of the area with US troops in an area rich with oil. Whether HAARP or otherwise, the associated issue would be the standdown of the automatic earthquake warning system among its subscribing member nations. This is CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE--U.S. ONLY WARNS AUSTRALIA AND INDONESIA--LEFT OTHERS IN AN ENVIRONMENTAL REICHSTAG FIRE TO DIE FOR POLITICAL GAIN, and then invaded oil rich Aceh with over 2000 U.S. Marines and two aircraft carriers with armed helicopters. No one tells the member countries about the "earthquake". However, the US DOES WARN its military base in the aera. And from this military base, part of the invasion of Aceh is proceeding with TWO AIRCRAFT CARRIERS and led by the U.S.'s pre-emptive invasion of Iraq leadership. "In a bitter irony, part of this operation is being coordinated out of America's Naval base in Diego Garcia. The US warns its naval base, though fails to warn Indian Ocean rim governments. "...the strike group, with its seven ships, 2,100 Marines and 1,400 sailors aboard, also has four Cobra helicopters..." The oil rich Aceh area, which like Iraq, was suffering from a civil war making oil extraction difficult. THE AMERICAN NAZI ANSCHLUSS MOVES OUT FROM IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN--INTO ACEH: An·schluss: A political union, especially the one unifying Nazi Germany and Austria in 1938.

Then across the water a bit from Aceh, we have Myanmar...

And what about the Myanmar slow attempt to move toward democratization disrupted by a leviathan of a cyclone that disrupted their whole country, killed up to 100,000 people, displaced perhaps a million people, and forced their closed anti-NWO government to accept external aid for the first time?

Back in 2005, some corporate media:

"Mysterious tremors deep beneath the San Andreas Fault near the quake-prone town of Parkfield are shaking the earth's brittle crust, FAR BELOW THE REGION WHERE EARTHQUAKES NORMALLY STRIKE -- and scientists say THEY CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING or what the motions mean. Seismic researchers are monitoring the strange vibrations..."..."We see this kind of tremor activity inside volcanoes like Mount St. Helens," Nadeau said, "but that's due to the movement of rising magma, and in the tremors we've recorded there's NO EVIDENCE OF VOLCANISM and NO SEISMIC WAVES TYPICAL OF ORDINARY EARTHQUAKES."

"In the US, the technology is being perfected under the High-frequency Active Aural Research Program (HAARP) as part of the ("Star Wars") Strategic Defence Initiative (SDI). Recent scientific evidence suggests that HAARP is fully operational and has the ability of potentially triggering floods, droughts, hurricanes and earthquakes.

From a military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction.

Potentially, it constitutes an instrument of conquest capable of selectively destabilising agricultural and ecological systems of entire regions."

To conclude, don't believe me, believe an ex-Sec. of Defense letting the cat out of the bag:

HAARP projects may have been what the U.S. Secretary of State was referring to when he talked of an "eco-type of terrorism!"

U.S. Secretary of State, William Cohen, said in 1997:

"Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves... So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations... It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism & and fund the U.S. HAARP] efforts." --- Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn. Quoted from DoD News Briefing, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Q&A at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, University of Georgia, Athens, Apr. 28, 1997.

5/12/2008 09:55:00 AM  
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5/12/2008 10:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Victor Ostrovsky has many admirers.

The motto of Israel's spy agency, Mossad, is, according to recently defected Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky: "By way of deception thou shalt do war."

That motto describes more than the modus operandi of the world's most ruthless and feared organization of professional assassins and espionage agents; it really describes the modus vivendi of an entire race. It is necessary to understand that fact before one can hope to understand fully the role of the Jews in national and world affairs.

The concept of a race eternally at war with the rest of the world is alien to us. It is difficult to believe or even to grasp. When we examine such a concept and begin sifting the evidence it is easy to become confused. On the one hand we have the Old Testament injunctions to the Hebrews from their tribal god, speaking through their prophets, to annihilate every Gentile nation over which they gain power:
"And thou shalt consume all the peoples which the Lord thy God shall deliver unto thee; thine eye shall not pity them...thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth." (Deuteronomy 7:16, 20:16)

Similarly bloodthirsty, explicit injunctions are repeated so often in the Jews' holy books that we can only assume that they are meant to be taken seriously. The historical evidence suggests that in ancient times the Jews did indeed take their religion seriously: they were notorious everywhere and at all times as implacable haters of humanity who in turn were thoroughly despised by every other people among whom they lived.

Then on the other hand we have the modern, American Jew in the role of humanitarian, shunning the instruments of war and urging that all citizens, including himself, be disarmed, in order to make the streets of our cities kinder and gentler. Not only do the Jews provide the principal impetus to America's gun-control effort, but they are found in the forefront of every other squishy, do-good movement, from those ostensibly aimed at reducing hostility between the races to those designed to increase tolerance of homosexuals and their practices.

How are we to make sense of this apparently conflicting evidence?
Is the Jew in the U.S. Congress who cites the rising murder statistics and then demands that the government confiscate all privately owned firearms trying to deceive us as to his intentions? When he talks peace and disarmament is he really thinking war against the Gentiles? And what of the carefully cultivated media image of the Jew as a gentle, inoffensive victim of bigotry, always being persecuted but never persecuting others? Is that also deception? And even if it is, does it necessarily mean that beneath the Jew's mask of benevolence and innocence hides the malevolent visage of a cunning predator? Perhaps for every bloodsucking Jewish swindler like Ivan Boesky or Michael Milken there is a Jewish benefactor of mankind like polio vaccine developer Jonas Salk, and for every bloody-handed Jewish gangster like Ariel Sharon, Meyer Lansky, or Yitzhak Shamir there is a Jewish Nobel Peace Prize winner like Menachem Begin, Henry Kissinger--or the appropriately named Elie Wiesel. Or are we also being deceived when the Salks and the Kissingers are held up to us as reasons for not condemning all Jews for the transgressions of some?

By way of deception thou shalt do war.
Does that injunction mean: "If you must wage war--if it is impossible to avoid war--then you stand a better chance of winning by being tricky"? Or does it mean: "Thou shalt wage war, and thou shalt deceive"?

The answer to this question is important. If it is the former--if the Jews, as a whole, are not malevolent, if they have broken with their Old Testament tradition and no longer feel that their racial mission is to destroy all other peoples, but they merely feel that when forced to defend themselves they are justified in using all means, including deception, then we may be able to live on the same planet with them, at a distance. We don't have to like them or agree with their policies, but we can see the possibility, at least, of some sort of peaceful coexistence, once a separation of peoples has been accomplished.

In seeking the answer we should keep in mind that deception is, in itself, hostile. A policy of systematic deception is tantamount to a policy of war. If we discover that the Jews (as a whole, not just a few swindlers among them) have been deceiving us deliberately and systematically over an extended period of time on any matter of substance, then we may infer that they regard the relationship between us as one of war, and we should respond accordingly.

5/12/2008 02:30:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

Argufying buncha freaks. Hopefully jeff will escape the crystalline mind-prison the alien virus has created within his brain and post some more tastily oblique informations soon. If not, let me quote the glorious Ween from their ultratrippy record The Pod - "don't sweat it, don't sweat it, don't, sweat it."


codeword blarney stone jiggle fire my penile gland seven walk seven nostradamus twelve with does eat kid and me fools. Hahahahaaaa!

So powerful the heavens tremble when I make my head wiggle,
Lord Reptor.

5/12/2008 02:45:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@Whitepower - back to Rense and play with the kiddies, chum. You're, like, seventeen levels away from the tiniest minnows here.

Still watching the Punch and Jewdy show that fooled your bloody grandpappy. Get a mind.

Me, I like the Sumerian people-herders secret power theory more. Doesn't Kissinger look more like Gilgamesh than Woody Allen to you?

Honestly, any one group that thinks they are controlling history is likely as mistaken as monkeys get.

I think we were designed by this planet's genosphere in order to birth thinking matter and free the mind from carbon chains and shortlived meatsacks. Who cares if three-hundred-year old Nazis or twenty-three year old Chinese do the job? Not the planet, dude.

P.S. - Michael Chertoff IS Lenin. Check the photos. One and the same man. He'd be about 150. A genuine Struldbrug, by gum. Congrats, Lenin. Icepick my ass, you still rockin' you skinny ass around accomplishing shit. Good (not necessarily in the moral sense) man.

Exploding with analytic fervour,
Lord Reptor

5/12/2008 02:54:00 PM  
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5/12/2008 03:08:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Well, I did warn people about this above. Quoting myself from above:

"real taboos of the Zionist party power without falling for the simplism that it is anti-semitic to discuss it; of course there is anti-semitism that is very real, that is the danger that it would encourage racists and fascists, though it's an exquisite cover, isn't it, if some Zionists themselves were racist and fascist themselves, eh?"

However, some anti-semitic fluff was posted soon after that attempts to argue that every individual of Jewish background is part of a grand conspiracy? Come on. Where's the evidence or even slight rigor in that, except mental rigor mortis?

Arguments based on metaphysical empty stereotypes are scare tactics for the easily led. Or should I say invented for the intentionally misled and easily led.


"it really describes the modus vivendi of an entire race."

Really? No proof there so I'll have to withhold my judgment on that though not withhold the rolling of my eyes.

Besides, 'an entire race'? What does that mean? When just our own stereotypes call it into existence and people never act as a single zombified unit like this.

This is a collectivist fallacy to which I do not subscribe.

People as individuals do bad things. Not stereotypical categories that are utilized as scapegoats. People as individuals did 9-11, not collective stereotypes.

Sometimes people frame other individuals so that they will be seen as stereotypical scapegoats. That is what is going on in the Middle East: the process of increasing polarization off stereotypes that have no basis in reality except the reality of words.

Ostrovsky is not the most interesting author on that list though. (Conservative Jewish author) Clifford Shack might make the blog list as the "Rigorous Intuition" of Rational, Cited, discussion (Jeff as his best) of intuited parapolitical networks concerning the establishment of the interconnections of Jewish Masonry, the state of Israel and the Rothschilds, the Sabbateans, etc.

Award winning author Edwin Black is more important than Ostrovsky: particularly his Transfer Agreement book showing Nazis and Zionists working together as allies before WWII. The same story can be read in Lenni Brenner's work about Zionism in the Age of Dictators or his hyper documented "51 Documents" showing these Nazi-Zionist relationships plainly in their own original documentary exchanges.

Ostrovsky sold more, unfortunately contributed toward anti-semitism by what he was doing in exposing Mossad I imagine, though when Mossad is a huge chunk of what happened on 9-11 anyone who wants to be rigorous should be aware of respecting the dangers of navigating between stereotypes to get at the individuals who hide behind them.

If anything we require some very different stereotypes to analyze groups setting stereotypes against each other for fun and profit...

5/12/2008 03:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well dr. Drew is right about one thing. Jeff, your graphic is very eerily reminiscent of the mental impression caused by a good toke of concentrated salvia leaf.


Large Hadron Collider

Keep aware of a 2012 connective node happening extremely soon. ?????

wref: y font air

5/12/2008 03:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In 1996 I sent my “manifesto” to Zizek, the same work that enabled me to get into grad school. It was based on 3 years of studying his work, along with other shit, and he responded with a postcard:

“After a quick glance I find it fascinating. I will finish reading it and get back to you.”

In actuality I was critiquing his work and he didn’t get back to me but his next book, “Metastases of Enjoyment” (1997) included my critiques, not found in his previous work, but only half-assed and not referenced, so he could destroy his own little strawman.

Too bad Zizek! The new info was his emphasis on ecofeminism and music and the New Age (my angles to his work).

So as I sat today in full-lotus listening to Amy Goodman announce Zizek as her guest (from a previous interview) I was enthralled. As usual he ranted and connected everything from linguistics to Escher to Oedipal to Chavez and Morales to Global Warming, etc.

Essentially Zizek is saying the same thing that Bernard Henry Levy was saying back in 1977 and this is admitted on Zizek’s part when he states we need to return to the big questions as we asked 30 years ago — the future of socialism, the collapse of capitalism, the failure of the New Left.

Zizek states that the message he repeats at all his talks is that the New Left should not respond to “humanitarian crises” and that “resistance” activism will not work (Levy was critiquing Deleuze for the same reason).

But what Zizek DID focus on was fascinating. He admits that the ecological crisis is the BIG cause for the collapse of capitalism (as I emphasized to him back in 1996).

Zizek states though that capitalism thrives on catastrophe and will most likely move into a more authoritarian position a la China (and Fukayama admitting that biogenetics needs strong control is an example).

What was fascinating is that Zizek stated that if NYC goes underwater from global warming Real Estators would have multi-orgasms.

To me this is a Freudian Slip on Zizek’s part. As I’ve pointed out I wrote to him about parapsychology (New Age) and ecofeminism and the ecological crisis. My contention is that we need to take Zizek LITERALLY here —

In order for males (Real Estators can assumed to be males on his part since Zizek admits he’s a “primitive” Old Leftist) to have multi-orgasms they must not BE “underwater” — the seminal fluid must be raised up the back and ionized by their minds — the electromagnetic energy of the pineal gland.

Therefore Zizek is WRONG — if NYC goes underwater this would not enable capitalists to have multiorgasms — it would destroy Wall St, for one thing.

Zizek also states that the Middle East crisis is due to a water crisis but that the issue of Arabs versus Jews is the WRONG crisis — and that racism and sexism needs to be addressed by legislation and economic reparations NOT tolerance.

Again Zizek is making a Freudian Slip — ONLY peace and tolerance enable the “water crisis” to be solved — ONLY peace and tolerance enable males to have multiorgasms by raising up the water and ionizing it into light.

Finally Zizek makes the same blunder that the “scientists” on GNN have made. Zizek claims that since oil was made by some great catastrophe therefore there is no inherent balance to Nature and we need to take Nature away from ecology (since the concept of a harmonic Nature is a fantasy of ideology).

In fact oil was not made by some catastrophe (and here Zizek seems to be implying the same error that Snark made here — that oil comes from the tar pits of when the “age of Dinosaurs” was ended by an asteroid catastrophe).

In fact oil comes from the slow accumulation of WATER decaying algae — the original form of life, a single-celled collective colony.

Again this is a FREUDIAN SLIP on Zizek’s part — in fact it represents not just his, but all of patriarchal science’s repression of the Reptilian Brain — the cerebellum and its pineal gland connection. And here I include the patriarchal repressive attack on ecofeminists Vandana Shiva and Helena Norberg-Hodge by the Leftist white male guru Doug Henwood.

In the end Zizek’s ideology is the WORD as truth. He’s a talking head — a zombie. He refers, with enthusiasm, to resistance of Muslims in Paris as a linguistic self-referential signal — a signal with no information content except to say: “here I am” (when they burnt their own mosques).

Zizek ends his talk by stating we should reverse Marx and not feel guilty to not take action but instead to just interpret by offering the proper questions to ask. Zizek himself wants to rely on the exact same “Pomo” action that he supposedly critiques (Derrida and Habermas) — empty signifiers.

Zizek is an Undead Zombie.

5/12/2008 03:30:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...


Drew/GGG said:

"But what Zizek DID focus on was fascinating. He admits that the ecological crisis is the BIG cause for the collapse of capitalism (as I emphasized to him back in 1996)."

It's only been talked about since the early 1970s, Drew, under the ecoMarxist name "the second contradiction of capitalism" or more optimistically under Ulrich Beck's risk society ideas for the past 20 years.... Don't claim a patent on reinventing the karmic wheel here.


Thanks, Eric, for leading me to an interesting link. You gotta see the pictures here.

The haarpicanes are right up RI's (hurricane) alley, if you ask me, if we're unable to calmly debate how stereotypes are used to manipulate us.

Just a teaser cut/paste intro:

Hyperdimensional Hurricanes?
Part One: The Mystery
By Richard C. Hoagland
2004 The Enterprise Mission

The image at the top is impossible. [Picture of Hurricane Ivan with little pentagonal geometry in its eye, rotating in the core of the image.]

But … it appeared as an official hurricane promo for MSNBC last week – specifically, for the approach of “Crazy Ivan.” The promo ran on the network most of the day and evening, Friday, September 10, 2004.

Then, after a few hours, it was mysteriously removed ….

What caught my eye (as I had the TV on in the background, tracking the storm) was the suddenly obvious, incredibly regular geometry in Ivan’s central “eye” – the core region containing the highest sustained winds, and around which the rest of the several hundred-mile-wide hurricane was organized (below).

I instantly realized that this startling “eye geometry” -- spinning relentlessly across the screen as the MSNBC “loop” played again … and again … and again -- was eerily familiar to the remarkable “hexagonal/pentagonal” cloud structures that the Voyager and Cassini spacecraft had captured circling the north poles of Saturn and Jupiter...during their brief fly-bys several years ago (below)!

These planetary examples have long been elegant confirmations of our Hyperdimensional Physics Model for the entire solar system: that [the idea or conjecture may be that] rotating mass, by virtue of the nature of space and “multi-dimensional reality,” is able to “open a gate” into another, more energetic dimension … allowing that energy to cascade -- in a highly organized and geometric form – “down” into our dimension.

[Another connection: the "Nazi Bell" project (mentioned in the Nick Cook book and represents something that successfully was spirited out of the Reich in its last days to who knows where, with all its team and slave labor force slaughtered and killed to hide the secret) seemed to be able to call forth strange damaging powers during its super-fast rotations of (presumably) electrified mercury in a special container that could withstand over 20,000 rpm rotations or a certain speed. I imagine that the Nazi Bell and certain planets are moving at the same speed and calling forth some equally interesting effects? Just a thought. Don't concentrate on full rotation as 'speed', just the speed of the planet's spin. The earth that looks stable to us is zipping by at a very fast clip.]

But, in our Model, those “hyperdimensional signatures” -- on the two most massive planets in the solar system -- are formed across literally tens of thousands of miles … by the slow, ponderous rotation of an entire planet -- “sucking” energy into the planet from the “surrounding” hyperspace, which subsequently appears as a large-scale organizing force in the planetary polar weather systems.

That the same hyperdimensional geometry could appear literally billions of miles closer to home – and in the center of a terrestrial hurricane -- was startling ... and immediately raised profound questions and fascinating further implications ….

See the pictures.

I wish I had read this when it was posted back in 2004. Would have made other things much easier to understand four years ago. The pictures can make you think twice, particularly if you have already seen the NASA photos of the same hexagonal-style rotating geometric forms on Saturn and other planets in our solar system (and on artificial planetoids elsewhere in our solar system like Iapetus for example, or perhaps the Earth's Moon...)...

5/12/2008 03:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mark you need my help so I'm responded to your comment about what I post and then what you posted.

First of all a basic lesson in LOGIC Mark.

I stated Zizek said something which I had emphasized to him and that he hadn't emphasized previously. That does not mean that the ecological crisis wasn't considered in Marxism previously nor does it mean that I was the sole source for his new emphasis.

Basic logic Mark.

More importantly and relatedly I argued that Zizek was just repeating Bernard Henry Levy's work of 1977. If you read Levy's book of that year he argues that the New Left is all just Platonism.

Mark -- the post you just made about geometry is EXACTLY that -- you are promoting Freemasonic Platonism and you are part of the Stargate CIA conspiracy --


So that's the Freudian Slip you made in your post.

Good luck Mark.

5/12/2008 03:57:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Anyway, just another issue from that page I linked. It is like hyperdimensional cymatics. Even Jeff talked of cymatics once....

"The closest three-dimensional analogy to what we believe is creating this “geometric control” of the clouds within Isabel’s “eye” is given by the science of “Cymatics”: the term comes from the Greek kyma (“great wave”), and is the modern study of “wave phenomena and its interaction with a variety of fluids.”

This relatively arcane field was pioneered in the 1950s by the late Hans Jenny, a Swiss medical doctor who followed the work of German physicist and acoustician, Ernst F. F. Chladni. Chladni, in the late 18th century, created intricate sand patterns by resonating a steel plate with an ordinary violin bow. In his extensions of Chladni’s work, Jenny used an electronic sine wave..."


Drew, no one needs your help; you need help. Badly.

I made that association because we all know your ego is a permanent Category 5 hurricane that pulls all these things together as if you invented them all.

Then you said, and I can't resist:

"Mark -- the post you just made about geometry is EXACTLY that -- you are promoting Freemasonic Platonism and you are part of the Stargate CIA conspiracy --


[1] Leaving aside the strange illogical leap/link from the lowercase to what you put in boldface (your this "BECAUSE..." that [what are you talking about, what is the connection there outside your demented little head?]), the link talks about various real world physical patterns on different planets.

[2] If your math mind doesn't integrate to explain those patterns, Drew, your math mind is wrong. Just like Nash was seriously deluded about himself as well.

[3] Then your tangent to another issue out of the blue. The "Freudian slip"? What?

Either way, three examples of that "basic logic" at work in your mind, you talk so highly of?

The more I think of it, Drew, you resemble that crazy schizophrenic mathematician John Nash who thought he was the center of everything.

The film A Beautiful Mind romanticized him though the real Nash was never endearing as the film made him and was closer to a truly vicious person. People, scroll back over the past month or so of Drew's mathematical, self-absorbed, vicious, "man against the world that needs conversion" interaction with others and tell me we don't have another Nash right here...just a Nash that has decided not to work for the Rand Corporation to save the world though one who has taken qigong as the "logical" route instead.


5/12/2008 04:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good shamans are often sick, because they absorb his tribe sickness and fight for heal it in himselves first.

I think Drew is doing that: he's destroying left-brain logic with a high dose of left-brain logic.

Mark, you just can't go against his arguments and you attack his ego. Go against his arguments, not him. If you can't, GO EAT SHIT

5/12/2008 05:37:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

Mark, Stargate Conspiracy man(whatever that's all about - wasn't that a TV show of major inanity?), what you're doing is fighting a Weeble. Remember those?

No matter how hard you hit, it's back in your face, empty but for a handful of sand and the air that fills it.

BTW, I do think weather war is not only on but has been since the fifties (mid-sixties for the ELF atmospheric-heating, mammal-controlling installations and (probably) craft. Copper needles, radiation, and lining clouds with industrial silver.

I bet driving hurricanes naturally suits Americans. Ghost Riders In The Sky.

Bored with my linty navel,
Lord Reptor.

5/12/2008 05:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great Tits Enjoying the Warm Weather

5/12/2008 08:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wouldn't it be prudent to consider that the deep warm water pockets that share my name are responsible for the quick intensification of these Hurricanes? The same thing happened with Camille and that was 1969. Surely they didn't have HAARP up and running and perfected in 1969.

5/12/2008 09:07:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@Eddie M. - Well, the HAARP station up north may not have been a go at that point, but the Soviets and the Americans were both sporting plenty antenna farms at universities and military installations by the mid-sixties.

Besides, there's more'n one way to skin a cat.

You say warm water pockets, I say study how they work and figure out how to mess with 'em, PDQ and top-secret.

Who knows? Maybe the HAARP machinery doesn't do weather mod atall. I hear it's best for deep-radaring the ocean and exterminating all life in a big electric flash-cooking-the-atmosphere session

For hurricane ridin', I kind of imagine a small fleet of high-performance aircraft (say modded 707s) sporting cloudseeders and whatever else they got, backed up by submarine- and ship-based missile/artillery systems with weather-mod loads. And an antenna or two.

Lord Reptor.

5/12/2008 09:26:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Drew's anonymous alter personality said:

"Mark, you just can't go against his arguments and you attack his ego. Go against his arguments, not him."

That's my point. Drew's ego is his only argument. He exists. Therefore he has to be right. "Go against his arguments?" Um. Did you read what he posted? What kind of inane anonymous takes those three examples of his leaps of illogic and then considers Drew crafting a serious argument. Except himself? Hi Drew? Get well soon.

According to the Curtis film link I posted a while back, Century of the Self, Nash thought people with red ties were secret communists plotting his downfall. Drew calls people, who call attention to how batty he is, secret "Platonists" involved in a "Stargate Conspiracy" organizing their whole life to plot his mathematical ministry's downfall. Nothing novel here except the source of Nash's megalomania.

Look, sometimes people are out to get ya. However, Drew, I am not that person. Get well soon. I hope you publish a book about your mathematics though first you really have to, oh what's the point, yes, Drew's a Weeble.

5/12/2008 09:40:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

So there isn't really a Stargate?

Damn. I guess the Anubis-things in the yard probably came in some kind of craft then.

I bet there is a colour of tie that denotes membership in some horribly secret glee club.

What you would do, is you would research whether or not people wearing a certain colour of tie were murdered a lot. Because, like, if you wore the secret tie without knowing, the secret guys would totally kill you for wearing their tie, but they'd have to cover it all up somehow.

I'm starting to feel endangered by my own suspicions. What if they read this? Oh, no.

Totally screwed now,
Lord Reptor.

5/13/2008 12:18:00 AM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

How do you do italics on here? It doesn't work for me. I meant to italicise (like circumcise but a fashionable cut) the word 'is' in the bit about the tie club - otherwise it doesn't follow properly from Mark's post with the red-ties anecdote.

I missed a period in there somewhere too. Piffle.

God, I'm a boring old pedant.
Lord Reptor.

5/13/2008 12:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not drew hempel, but i'm reading some of the books he recommends. And I think he's onto something. Mark, GO EAT SHIT

5/13/2008 01:55:00 AM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@Anonymous - You've reminded me of the greatest band name of all time, Coprophagic Voice Mutation.

Mark, I think what old Anonny there trying to say is that in some of these books everyone but me is reading, the clues lead to eating shit as a source of, um, well, being on to something. Or on something. Or something.

I not hemp drool,
Lord Reptor.

5/13/2008 02:33:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

“Good shamans are often sick, because they absorb his tribe sickness and fight for heal it in himselves first.

I think Drew is doing that: he's destroying left-brain logic with a high dose of left-brain logic.”

This, I think is a good observation, spoiled by what follows.
Fine logical construct here, LOL.

“Go against his arguments, not him. If you can't, GO EAT SHIT”

(Oh and if you cannot build better sentences, you will probably not get much from Drew’s recommendations.)

Drew and I share the same favorite author, and I do relate to and approve of a good bit of his material. However narcissists are takers and vampires, so is that full-lotus producing a better human prototype?

5/13/2008 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GGG, if I google "Power Set Axiom" I get around 5000 results, about axiomatic set theory, as I would expect.

If I google "Power Axiom Set", I get around 30 results, ALL written by yourself, with no apparent relation to the former mathematical content.

Could you tell me if there IS any relation betwean the two? I can't see any. Just as I can't see any justification for any of the equalities in the following quote (of yours):

'...the search for the origin of “I Am that I Am” which is also the “power axiom set” logic (the Pythagorean Theorem) that squares the circle.'

Are you saying that the Pythagorean Theorem squares the circle? That it is the power axiom set logic? That this has something to do with a human endeavor?

5/13/2008 07:14:00 AM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

It's about the seven holy geometries of poo...

take my hand, child

eateth of the shit

for it tasteth of roses (apologies to the lovely Mr. Crumb)

If you don't square the circle, you'll never understand my angle, man

just try a little bite

Unreasonably awake already,
Lord Reptor.

5/13/2008 08:15:00 AM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

Poop-tarts for breakfast. Their four shit-filled corners bring toasted enlightenment.

Go on, just taste it.

I think (grunt) I may be onto something (heave)...

the circle is widening...

yet the poo is square...

I see the light! the divine turtle head has spoken!

If I hold full-lotus on the john (seat removed for higher purposes), I can poo perfect glowing geometrical shapes...

can you?

Needing to share,
Lord Reptor.

5/13/2008 08:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Drew and I share the same favorite author, and I do relate to and approve of a good bit of his material. However narcissists are takers and vampires, so is that full-lotus producing a better human prototype?

Is anybody, or anything here producing a better human prototype? No, it's not, you insignificant TWOT who thinks he's significant. Your attacks of character are baseless and irrelevant to the discussion, yet you continue to character assassinate needlessly. You are a charlatan and an oppressive tyrant and bore. You're not fooling anyone here you transparent dipstick.

Drew has just as much business posting here as do any of you other bird-brained dimwits who think your views of the world at large are superior to his, and all others.

What's lovely about Drew is his ability to swim against the strong polluted current, created here by Sounder and his ilk, and spawn the necessary dialogue for the next generation.

5/13/2008 08:27:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

The garlic is over 2 foor high. I think I'm supposed to do something about that. I think it's the blooms. I'm supposed to do something to the blooms.

I recommend you grow your own otherwise, you are eating shit. More and more commercial farming is done using human waste as a fertilizer.

5/13/2008 08:37:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Mark..did you get my emai? ptb seem to be set off by my quandary of sca-lar being sent off to one of those Asian countries where everybody knows that hurricanes and volcanoes and earthquakes and rain, lots and lots of rain, are all weapons of war.

5/13/2008 08:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for sharing your morning bowel movement, Lord Rectum.

5/13/2008 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you fools even know what scalar means? You use it as though it's all high-tech and scary, but it's really just a simple, general scientific term that has little to no connotation until attached to the word weapon via Tom Bearden.

5/13/2008 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah! They are called scalar because they utilise so called zero-vector waves.

I suppose zero-vector weapon would sound a bit impotent, but then not as bad as the alternative Longitudinal Weapon! (does that sound rude?)

Perhaps 'Tensor Weapon' would be even scarier, if it were relevant in this case, but maybe that just sounds too SciFi.

5/13/2008 09:58:00 AM  
Blogger fletcher said...

"you continue to character assassinate needlessly"
that's rich.
I guess there are times when nothing a man can say is nearly so powerful as saying nothing.
My recommendation concerning GGG:
The cult of Isis...the merry pranksters, Sandoz, the "counter-culture" the New Age movement...all part of a trap. Delusion induced by too much LSD, mescaline...Salvia...ecstacy...
Or is it really, "consciousness-expanding" as Huxley would have one believe? Conciousness can only expand when 2 or more people agree.
On our own, our ego gets ridiculous. Microcosm for this blog.
And Drew, do you have a girlfriend/wife? if so, how does she feel about you inciting the arousal of others? Is that an issue for her? (no offence, seriously, but I always imagine you are single and look like Dwight from "the office" only with a long beard)
Dig a man out of trouble and the hole which is made becomes a grave for your own sorrows.

5/13/2008 11:13:00 AM  
Blogger fletcher said...

let me rephrase that.
consciousness can expand when 2 or more people agree. it can also contract when "groupthink" happens and people stop thinking and begin merely "functioning" like a corporate shell...
but then, that's a steriotype (though I have seen the real thing..brainwashed corporate shells, suits w/o even a rudimentary knowledge of human interaction. Oh sure they know how to program in Linux while doing a rubix cube and playing warcraft simultaneously, but try to have a conversation with one of these robots....
perhaps THAT is the new prototypical "human"....

5/13/2008 12:48:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Google N'aton and Ma'at and you'll see where I'm going. Along with Isis and the whole Hindu/Yogic revival of the 60s...
The desire of these New age groups to see humanity "transcend" into a hive mind consciousness...

5/13/2008 12:51:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...


When the pylon of time has crashed down
Then the Aeon has ended!
He shall come forth.
Not alone, for his nature is two, concealed.
Silent the dancer of stars wafts forward
To establish his law.
With feather and lotus
Ipsos & Agape.
The wing of the vulture
Will cast a shadow.

- Khreb ent Ptah

5/13/2008 01:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Repent you wasteful Harlequins...the end is nigh.

The World at 350
A Last Chance for Civilization
By Bill McKibben

Even for Americans, constitutionally convinced that there will always be a second act, and a third, and a do-over after that, and, if necessary, a little public repentance and forgiveness and a Brand New Start -- even for us, the world looks a little Terminal right now.

It's not just the economy. We've gone through swoons before. It's that gas at $4 a gallon means we're running out, at least of the cheap stuff that built our sprawling society. It's that when we try to turn corn into gas, it sends the price of a loaf of bread shooting upwards and starts food riots on three continents. It's that everything is so inextricably tied together. It's that, all of a sudden, those grim Club of Rome types who, way back in the 1970s, went on and on about the "limits to growth" suddenly seem… how best to put it, right.

All of a sudden it isn't morning in America, it's dusk on planet Earth.

There's a number -- a new number -- that makes this point most powerfully. It may now be the most important number on Earth: 350. As in parts per million (ppm) of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

A few weeks ago, our foremost climatologist, NASA's Jim Hansen, submitted a paper to Science magazine with several co-authors. The abstract attached to it argued -- and I have never read stronger language in a scientific paper -- "if humanity wishes to preserve a planet similar to that on which civilization developed and to which life on earth is adapted, paleoclimate evidence and ongoing climate change suggest that CO2 will need to be reduced from its current 385 ppm to at most 350 ppm." Hansen cites six irreversible tipping points -- massive sea level rise and huge changes in rainfall patterns, among them -- that we'll pass if we don't get back down to 350 soon; and the first of them, judging by last summer's insane melt of Arctic ice, may already be behind us.

So it's a tough diagnosis. It's like the doctor telling you that your cholesterol is way too high and, if you don't bring it down right away, you're going to have a stroke. So you take the pill, you swear off the cheese, and, if you're lucky, you get back into the safety zone before the coronary. It's like watching the tachometer edge into the red zone and knowing that you need to take your foot off the gas before you hear that clunk up front.

In this case, though, it's worse than that because we're not taking the pill and we are stomping on the gas -- hard. Instead of slowing down, we're pouring on the coal, quite literally. Two weeks ago came the news that atmospheric carbon dioxide had jumped 2.4 parts per million last year -- two decades ago, it was going up barely half that fast.

And suddenly, the news arrives that the amount of methane, another potent greenhouse gas, accumulating in the atmosphere, has unexpectedly begun to soar as well. Apparently, we've managed to warm the far north enough to start melting huge patches of permafrost and massive quantities of methane trapped beneath it have begun to bubble forth.

And don't forget: China is building more power plants; India is pioneering the $2,500 car, and Americans are converting to TVs the size of windshields which suck juice ever faster.

Here's the thing. Hansen didn't just say that, if we didn't act, there was trouble coming; or, if we didn't yet know what was best for us, we'd certainly be better off below 350 ppm of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. His phrase was: "…if we wish to preserve a planet similar to that on which civilization developed." A planet with billions of people living near those oh-so-floodable coastlines. A planet with ever more vulnerable forests. (A beetle, encouraged by warmer temperatures, has already managed to kill 10 times more trees than in any previous infestation across the northern reaches of Canada this year. This means far more carbon heading for the atmosphere and apparently dooms Canada's efforts to comply with the Kyoto Protocol, already in doubt because of its decision to start producing oil for the U.S. from Alberta's tar sands.)

We're the ones who kicked the warming off; now, the planet is starting to take over the job. Melt all that Arctic ice, for instance, and suddenly the nice white shield that reflected 80% of incoming solar radiation back into space has turned to blue water that absorbs 80% of the sun's heat. Such feedbacks are beyond history, though not in the sense that Francis Fukuyama had in mind.

And we have, at best, a few years to short-circuit them -- to reverse course. Here's the Indian scientist and economist Rajendra Pachauri, who accepted the Nobel Prize on behalf of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change last year (and, by the way, got his job when the Bush administration, at the behest of Exxon Mobil, forced out his predecessor): "If there's no action before 2012, that's too late. What we do in the next two to three years will determine our future. This is the defining moment."

In the next two or three years, the nations of the world are supposed to be negotiating a successor treaty to the Kyoto Accord. When December 2009 rolls around, heads of state are supposed to converge on Copenhagen to sign a treaty -- a treaty that would go into effect at the last plausible moment to heed the most basic and crucial of limits on atmospheric CO2.

If we did everything right, says Hansen, we could see carbon emissions start to fall fairly rapidly and the oceans begin to pull some of that CO2 out of the atmosphere. Before the century was out we might even be on track back to 350. We might stop just short of some of those tipping points, like the Road Runner screeching to a halt at the very edge of the cliff.

More likely, though, we're the Coyote -- because "doing everything right" means that political systems around the world would have to take enormous and painful steps right away. It means no more new coal-fired power plants anywhere, and plans to quickly close the ones already in operation. (Coal-fired power plants operating the way they're supposed to are, in global warming terms, as dangerous as nuclear plants melting down.) It means making car factories turn out efficient hybrids next year, just the way we made them turn out tanks in six months at the start of World War II. It means making trains an absolute priority and planes a taboo.

It means making every decision wisely because we have so little time and so little money, at least relative to the task at hand. And hardest of all, it means the rich countries of the world sharing resources and technology freely with the poorest ones, so that they can develop dignified lives without burning their cheap coal.

That's possible -- we launched a Marshall Plan once, and we could do it again, this time in relation to carbon. But in a month when the President has, once more, urged us to drill in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, that seems unlikely. In a month when the alluring phrase "gas tax holiday" has danced into our vocabulary, it's hard to see (though it was encouraging to see that Clinton's gambit didn't sway many voters). And if it's hard to imagine sacrifice here, imagine China, where people produce a quarter as much carbon apiece as we do.

Still, as long as it's not impossible, we've got a duty to try. In fact, it's about the most obvious duty humans have ever faced.

A few of us have just launched a new campaign, Its only goal is to spread this number around the world in the next 18 months, via art and music and ruckuses of all kinds, in the hope that it will push those post-Kyoto negotiations in the direction of reality.

After all, those talks are our last chance; you just can't do this one light bulb at a time. And if this campaign is a Hail Mary pass, well, sometimes those passes get caught.

We do have one thing going for us: This new tool, the Web which, at least, allows you to imagine something like a grassroots global effort. If the Internet was built for anything, it was built for sharing this number, for making people understand that "350" stands for a kind of safety, a kind of possibility, a kind of future.

Hansen's words were well-chosen: "a planet similar to that on which civilization developed." People will doubtless survive on a non-350 planet, but those who do will be so preoccupied, coping with the endless unintended consequences of an overheated planet, that civilization may not.

Civilization is what grows up in the margins of leisure and security provided by a workable relationship with the natural world. That margin won't exist, at least not for long, this side of 350. That's the limit we face.

5/13/2008 02:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

civilization is a piece of shit whose time has come to an end. The planet is ridding itself of us wasteful harlequins. Reality is ashamed of us.
But sure, there are always people who mean well, but tough shit for them. Maybe God will reward em!
yeah right.
fletcher, Smoking Salvia IS mind expanding, if a little scary, to the uninitiated.
What do you mean about Isis? how is that connected to anything?
-lower case g

5/13/2008 03:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK Mark -- about cymatics. Earlier I posted Vitus B. Drosch's excerpt from "Magic of the Senses" -- he's an award-winning biophysicist writer who points out that our ear does not perceive the different in phase-shift which visually creates a constructive/destructive interference pattern of frequency overtones. In other words amplitude, a visual measurement of time as phase-shift, does not apply to pure listening of natural overtones.

Today I'm reading an amazing philosophy book published by Harvard U Press, Mark Alpert's "Quantum Mechanics and Experience" (Sorry the name and title might be a bit off since I just go for content and not labels! haha).

Anyway he's doing a very in-depth (I can't believe spell check ixned my indepth!) Damn computers! ...

Where was I? OK so anyway when he presents how the single firing of an electron through two slits in a slide creates a phosphorcent (take that spell check!) measurement wave of constructive and destructive statistics IN VIOLATION of the predicted wave amplitude measurement.

So you can see where I went with this -- that Jeff's "cymatic" science -- and I'll include Jeff Volk in that "Jeff" as well since he's currently the biggest purveyor of said "science" is just New Age and yes

Stargate Conspiracy

Platonic Freemasonic b.s.

Now if you read Keplers -- umm no -- I mean Hans Jenny's actually book "Cymatics" at the end he states that the true source of resonance creating matter is.... THE PYTHAGOREAN TETRAD

With the commutative property violation of the Power Axiom Set or was it Power Set Axiom (more precisely 2:3 is C x G while 3:4 is G x C).

And now presenting my grand finale for all you turds....

oops it's not in the clipboard.. one moment please...

5/13/2008 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There’s his website. I had put a desire out there — I had seen one of his books for new, too expensive, but had wanted to see another of his books. Forgot about that little thought but then last night aimlessly perusing my local used bookstore and Adam’s book is sitting on top of all the others — the only one like that, sitting there, watching me.


Best thing about this new book — (or maybe old book) a forward by qigong master Effie P. Chow. Now usually when people say they can see auras I don’t believe them but I know Chow is the real thing. I went to her presentation in 1995 and she does N.I.H. research. Her book “Miracle Healing in China” is excellent. So Chow spent 3 days with Adam back when Adam was first seeking help about his skills.

The book is really intense because he states that he was born with a “V” birthmark on his forehead. Strangely I acquired a “V” on my forehead the day after I started posting on It was from the energy against my skull — and Adam says now the “V” is just “vascular” I think.

Anyway he started having a lot of telekinesis and it freaked his parents out. Then he could always see auras so when kids went to hide in “hide and seek” he always saw them as their auras extended past the hiding place.

I don’t see auras but I do see white light around people after I’ve been sitting in full-lotus long enough and opened up the third eye more.

So then Adam starting doing healing and his mom was scared because Adam would feel the pain of what he was healing. I know EXACTLY what this is like, of course on a much less intense level. Adam heals mainly through what he calls “holograms” or using light and visualization.

So qigong master Effie P. Chow taught Adam to ground his energy but exhaling to the center of the Earth. Adam also learned that when he heals people he’s using THEIR energy to heal them. I also know EXACTLY how this works — because basically the body takes in the disharmonic electrochemical energy of the person being healed and then the third eye transduces it into light and shoots it back into the person.

Adam says healing comes naturally for him — in fact this process just “happens” — it’s natural. But Adam says he had to teach himself how to “tune down” peoples’ auras because it was just too intense. He said when he did this then his “intuitive” skills increased — he began just getting information without visualization.

So Adam’s dad is a science dude so Adam relies on “quantum information” to explain these abilities. I can relate to using science as a model to process the experiences but I wouldn’t equate the two, obviously, and in fact see them as opposites.

This brings me to John Horgan’s last book on exploring quantum consciousness — he went to some science conference on it and there was some fascinating debate about “frequency” of neuron signals versus “synchrony.” Basically Karl Pribram argues the brain CAN create holographic lasers if there is the same frequency of signals. Normally though the signals are all different frequencies but there might be a general synchrony at the 40 hz. Still this synchrony only is just in one part of the brain at a time so some argue that in fact the actual resonance is a chaotic signal.

Then John Horgan — or maybe it was George Johnson (can’t remember which “science” writer this was off hand) but he runs into Noam Chomsky!!

Chomsky states – I don’t think there’s a mind-body paradox because Newton dismissed materialism with his discovery of gravity as “Action At A Distance.” Chomsky then goes:

Admittedly I haven’t convinced too many of this argument.


In fact I had just been reading the book “Newtonian Studies” by Alexandre Koyre, a philosopher of science. It is FASCINATING how Newton basically had no physical explanation for gravity and instead relied on pure mathematics for mechanics and how this conundrum was a huge issue but then it was just covered-up and replaced by “fields.”

In fact it’s STILL an issue in science and my argument of course is that the symmetric-based math is founded on faulty logic and the answer lies at a close examination of Archytas and Eudoxus and Pythagoras, etc.

Anyway back to Adam’s book — he gives numerous case studies of people he has healed and the techniques he’s used. He can go into their bodies in “real time” but usually he says that:

Time Stops

when he relies on holographic healing — this is the same as samadhi. In fact Adam states that only because he grew up in a city with a 30% Chinese population and almost as many Indians did his family become more accepting of his traits.

He recommends drinking 8 glasses of water a day (just like Effie P. Chow recommends).

Also belly breathing in a relaxed way.

Also eat only when you’re hungry.

Pretty basic stuff. haha.

5/13/2008 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess this is what happens when people begin to realize we are all doomed--they go insane.

It's interesting, though, how many of the crazies post their comments here.

You know who you are.

Tell you what--let's start a guessing game as to when world implosion really begins. My bet is toward the end of 2017 AD. Your guess?

5/13/2008 03:21:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Tick Schlock..Yours is the most offensive post I've seen here. I'll be brief. Cholesterol is better for you than that pill you think is so hot. Carbon is beneficial to the planet. It's the rest of the crap that M-I-C is putting into air, water and earth that is the problem. Your prescription is that since man exhales carbon dioxide, man is bad.

Get a life.

5/13/2008 04:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's all about the Bell Curve people:

5/13/2008 06:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tick Tock's right of course. This ship has no captain and likely has too much momentum to turn around now. It's the natural cycle in down mode. That's all. Get used to it. Give the next big thing a chance. Bye Bye.

5/13/2008 10:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seems we're all just waiting for Beckett's Godot, looking anxiously stage left, while the self-created hammer of our species' destruction swings down from stage right.

There is nothing we can do, other than metaphorically twiddle our thumbs while Rome burns all around us. What's that? Light another candle? Surely!

5/14/2008 03:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How much time
did Jeff blow
doo-da-ling in pho-to-shop?

How many words
could Jeff write
if he'd not jack his pho-to-cock?

And how much crap
could Drew spam
full looo-tus in a-time-cube?

neo-pythagoean fecal formed awareness G:C ratio ragas versus evil western exoticizing cretin I'm glad you asked because I was just making little girls squirt and qi gong master Chun-Li Zangief writhe like well worn Dublin whores with my magick full scrotus (seriously, drew, it's dead fucking simple for anyone half competent to psychically thrill someone and you don't need silly postures and twitching adam's apples to do it)

Fuck I miss Pop Occulture
from way back when
'fore Tim Boucher
shat his brain away
with incoherent babbling

5/14/2008 06:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous One,Jeff,if you ever make it back to this blog to finish the thought,"I needed to look away for a while..." I think we are all getting the same feeling.One can only imagine what your wife has to endure when your mind is burdened with so much of the world exposed and begging for someone to open the sleeping minds out there.Jeff,there are very few people in this world that are in the same stream of conciousness as you,rest up,regroup,find your strength.This blog has always been a source of info some good some not so good,the world is spinning faster and faster,sometimes I feel like shutting everthing out but there is no way I'm going out with out a fight,fuck these dirty bastards,don't give up your mind,later.

5/14/2008 06:37:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

“Your intentions and the intentions of those around you affect your health and the health of others. Understanding and accepting this basic interaction is the basis for always being positive and encouraging others.”

Thanks for the link to Adam’s site Drew. Sorry for calling you a narcissist, but you do appear as one to many, given the constant self-referential bits.

5/14/2008 06:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tick Tock man, not be deceived by the paranoid conservationist meme of ecological doom and gloom. There are problems for humanity afoot to be sure but they have little to do with ecological matters.
It is more to do with the maturing of karmic debt of the ruling elite and their minions (conservationists), who have have perpetrated unspeakable horrors on mankind.

5/14/2008 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pull your head out of the guy's ass, will you, Anonymous One? You have to be kidding! You are joking, aren't you?

Let me get this straight. You actually believe the following:

One can only imagine what your wife has to endure when your mind is burdened with so much of the world exposed and begging for someone to open the sleeping minds out there.Jeff,there are very few people in this world that are in the same stream of conciousness as you,rest up,regroup,find your strength.

Perhaps she should tell him to refrain from providing you losers your latest crack fix for free, and start feeding her and his children. Or, maybe this is his job, and he's paid a modest yet adequate pittance for depositing memes and keeping you fools distracted, fragmented and begging for more containment.

5/14/2008 07:45:00 AM  
Blogger fletcher said...

that's rich.
it's dead fucking simple for anyone half competent to psychically thrill someone and you don't need silly postures and twitching adam's apples to do it"

While this is true,

don't discout that what Drew is onto is really something.
And by something I mean...
It reminds me of the whole trepanation thing. Brain Blood Volume and the adherants to the practice (well, guess you can't call trepanation a practice, since once you have the hole in your head you're pretty much done..) (though then that's when your third eye ((literally--another hole in your head)) opens)
Not being privy to Drew's subjective holographic reality, we can only speculate. To be fair.

5/14/2008 08:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn Tom Bearden and his attaching a stigma to the word scalar. Scalar is a wonderful word and is used in wonderful ways to heal America. Please sign up today and begin your healing process with our Scalar Energy products. You can make money selling it to your friends, too.

And Flusher, please find another descriptive phrase other than "that's rich." You've used it twice now in posts that were proximate to one another. Also, please delete some more of your posts. You are falling behind on your quota. It must be something about people from Rochester. The Erie Canal is really eery.

5/14/2008 09:24:00 AM  
Blogger fletcher said...

that's rich.

5/14/2008 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Awesome! I didn't know scalar energy waves were pyramidal! Mean old Tom Bearden sullying the word scalar with weapon associations... What a jerk. Thank you for pointing out that "scalar" should actually bring to mind images of vitamins left in front of a speaker magnet and sold at a ridiculous mark up.

I bet if you made a scalar Radithor you'd make a killing!

5/14/2008 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mushrooms rule the Universe.

5/14/2008 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Hmm. The real lesson of Radithor is the U.S. bans the little guy and protects the radioactive reputation of the more lucrative criminal elements (no pun intended speaking of banning radium though pushing uranium later on).

Reading about the death of Byers from Radithor, from a 1932 article, I found it telling that the article explained to the American public don't be "confused" about other 'non-similar' lucrative radium-radiation cures just because someone dies of another radium treatment.

"But while the authorities are trying to find out how many people have been exposed to these so-called remedies, they point out that under no circumstances should the fate of this radium-poisoning victim be confused [sic, no, don't "confuse" them with 2+2=4] with the [same] radium treatment accorded cancer patients. In these treatments, "no radium actually enters the patient's body," notes the New York Herald Tribune, "but only alpha particles, whose effect is controlled by the specialist giving the treatment."

Figures. There's a radioactive sucker born every minute. And there was nothing wrong about your radium watch either I guess. (My grandmother never got the news. She had a radium dial clock in her guest room well into the 1980s.)

I remember reading that lucrative nuclear medicine wouldn't take off until radium was exchanged for uranium: a WWII general 'invested' in a uranium mine to profit from injecting people with it as 'cancer treatment' later.

He worked at the 'non-profit' Mayo clinic as well, though owned the uranium mine himself that supplied them.

I can't find the page now, though he was inspired by how his troops were accidentally irradiated in Italy. They lost all their white blood cells for a while. He was intrigued and saw money. He bought a uranium mine, and went to open a wing at the Mayo Clinic to irradiate everyone with uranium and make money (not necessarily in that order....) and experiment on refining the methods.

Seems the Mayos got their big break when they joined the military industrial complex, from the Civil War onward:

"It was the reason Mayo Clinic ended up in Rochester, Minn.

Drs. Charles H. (left) and William J. Mayo, brigadier generals in WWI.

Mayo's tradition of support for the military began during the Civil War when Dr. William Worrall Mayo — a frontier physician and father of famous brothers Charles H. and William J. Mayo — was appointed examining surgeon for the Union Army Enrollment Board.

In 1864 the family moved to Rochester, [Minnesota] where the board was headquartered, and made it their home."

The Clinic wasn't founded until the 1880s though, and it became non-profit in 1919. However, in terms of revenue, Mayo Clinic is the state's second-largest non-profit organization, after health insurer Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association of Minnesota. In 2004, the organization took in US$5.6 billion.

Interesting point: the Mayo doctors aren't capitalist doctors like the rest of the crappy medicine in the USA. They are on a fixed salary, so it doesn't matter how many people they see, the doctors get the same salary. Thus, their care can be better and more detailed. The superrich in the USA get the less capitalist medicine and more care per patient (just as their children avoid the dumbed down public school system). Would have been an interesting side-scene in Michael Moore's movie Sicko to ask why the elite Mayo Clinic decided on a medical format that makes it more European and than most American medicine?

Another interesting point, in some other reserach about Amerian occult families, the Starr family seems important, and one of the invited partners into the Mayo Clinic was a Starr:

In 1892, William Worrall Mayo asked Dr. Augustus Stinchfield to join the Mayo practice, as a partner sharing in the profits. Once Stinchfield accepted the offer, W. W. Mayo promptly retired at age 73. As the practice grew, Drs. Christopher Graham, E. Starr Judd, Henry Stanley Plummer, Melvin Millet, and Donald Balfour were also invited to join the practice as partners. In 1919, the remaining partners of the private practice created the Mayo Properties Association and established the Mayo Clinc as a not-for-profit entity.

Just some random notes...perhaps helping others find something less random.

5/14/2008 01:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe scalar energy was used to bring down the world trade center buildings.

5/14/2008 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

You can get paid to deposit memes?

Damn, all I've ever thought to do with 'em is put 'em in a bag, set it on fire on your various doorsteps, and watch from the bushes.

Smells like victory every time.

Thinking about a new career,
Lord Reptor.

5/14/2008 03:03:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

Ding Dong!

Jesus is actually a hideous soul carnivore existing in the Van Allen belts, the Church his glowing lure and the HAARP project the harness and bridle for Him that the MIB will use to Ride Him To The Rapture and harvest all our scalar energys right up into a big bottle that George Bush and Vladimir Putin will drink from to gain the powers of the GODS, man.

(runs away)

5/14/2008 03:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you can get paid for almost anything. tell us, lord rectum, how do you get paid? or are we to believe that you're purely self-sufficient like richard proenneke? somehow, I don't see richard cruising the net, even if there was a net back then, which i'm sure some of you, including lord rectum, will argue there was. they were just keeping it from us until the time was right.

i could go for some scalar bolognese sauce right about now with a good dose haarpesano weaponniano cheese sprinkled on top. ummm, yummy, yummy.

5/14/2008 03:28:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@Yon Dung - Ignoring your truly disrespectful form of address to one such as I (especially as it's somewhat funny AND fits right in with the subtle theme of poo I've been developing here)...

How do I get paid?

Well, right now, I don't.

I've been semi-crippled (i.e. not fully laid up but not fully able) for a bit over a year and a half now. I blew a gut valve cycle-commuting to my lamish job on the mainland, and after a lot of nasty pain-times (and I can be quite theatrical about it, believe me) I got diagnosed and hacked open by a local jackass not fit to work on a drunken horse, a.k.a. the head of the local surgeon's association.

He fucked it up.

Amusingly, my position at the hotel kitchen in the big town (prisoner/cook) juxtaposed post-surgery with this 'doctor's' position as head incompetent medical dickwad of the region in such a way that I got to serve his pompous ass nice meals at meetings (and nasty ones too - I'm not the chef, and the bad-tempered Scot who is sometimes makes bad, bad things happen in the kitchen, as does the evil French ex-paratrooper Sodexho-trained monster who was first cook at the time) as I limped around feeling horror poised to burst loose below.

After a few (dozen) times down screaming and clutching myself privately on the floor of an industrial kitchen, I gave it up, to everyone's relief and some people's sweet sorrow of parting. Since then I've been here in my little fortress, subsisting on (since my paltry benefits ran out):

a)Help from loved ones. Who can do without it?

b)Farmer's markets, private food sale/barter, savings (bye-bye!), credit card (tremble, sweat), goodwill, and

c)Occasionally nothing. The coffers do run short sometimes. It was fucking cold without wood last winter, let me tell you.

I certainly understand how lucky I am to still have a roof over my head at this point. I have no idea what comes next. Working on that, and trying to grow food, too.

So, if any of you lot on here are the type who pays guys to meme-drop - or read papers and offer actually fairly sharp analysis (I gots a few years school, gained in patches over the uncertain decades - I love going to school, but it costs and I never get a degree because, well, you can imagine, or not), or edit, or whatever, then send me an application form. All brains, no qualifications. Specialty - pattern recognition (check my weird Wechsler results, dude).

I do catering, too. Maybe you want to have a big freaky spy meeting out here, with tasty eats for cheap. I could put a couple of you MIB types up, breakfast included and a big-screen monitor to do all your spying stuff on (bought pre-unemployment, CHEAP at Costco).

I could give government and para-government rates.

I suppose if I hit a wall, I'll go after disability. But I don't want the psychological weirdness of it. I prefer to think that one day, my surgical prince will come (and yes, I'm taking an active role there, which has been fairly discouraging).

SO much more than you needed or wanted to know and time for me to spew at the other end too (you must have a relaxing effect on me, Yon buddy),

Lord Reptor.

5/14/2008 04:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Become a Master Healer!

Master Chunyi Lin

The Spring Forest Qigong
Energy Connection

Issue 7
May 2008

In This Issue

International Conference Recap
Ask Master Lin
Level I Instructor
Certification Program
International Guild Update
Level I Class Added
Celebrating Vesak
Master Healer
Services Available at SFQ (Note new special discount)

Helpful Links

The SFQ Website
International Guild
Online Store

Master Chunyi Lin

Master Lin had the SFQ logo designed to show tender new leaves of spring-time, symbolizing growth, optimism, and excitement. The leaves may also be seen as hands or arms cradling a small red energy ball, representing hope, healing, and new life.

What is Qigong?

"Qigong (pronounced "chee-gong") is one of the cornerstones of traditional Chinese medicine. "Qi" is the universal energy that makes up and flows through everything in the universe. In our bodies, it is vitality or life force. "Gong" means to practice, cultivate, or refine, leading to mastery. "Qigong," then, means to cultivate or refine one's vitality or life force through practice.

Spring Forest helps in this endeavor by offering a number of classes, workshops, and retreats. We also schedule individual, telephone, and distance sessions through our Center in Eden Prairie, Minnesota.

The Spring Forest Vision


Our vision is "a healer in every family and a world without pain." To help take this vision to the next level, Spring Forest Qigong is making some exciting additions to our programs, including preparation for active exercise classes at the Spring Forest Center and a program to train Spring Forest Qigong teachers.

Watch for more information coming soon!

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Sharing SFQ

Do you have a friend or relative who would like to receive information about Spring Forest Qigong? If so, please feel free to use the "Forward E-mail" link at the bottom of this newsletter.


The 2008 Spring Forest Qigong
International Conference in Brief

Cancer CD imageSeveral hundred people from far and wide gathered together in Minneapolis last month for the annual Spring Forest Qigong International Conference, this year entitled "Enlightenment through Unconditional Love." From Thursday evening to mid-day Sunday, April 17-20, attendees listened intently to presentations on the main stage by Master Lin and others, attended breakout sessions and healing appointments, participated in guided meditations, perused the SFQ store, exchanged qigong stories, and just enjoyed each other's company.

Cancer CD imageOn Saturday, a number of people were surprised, delighted, and quite emotional as they were called on stage and awarded newly-created Spring Forest Qigong titles, each one representing many hours of education and healing experience. (To view specific Master Healer requirements, scroll to the end of this newsletter above "Services Available.") The recipients of these new titles were:

Level I Certified Instructor: (in photo above, back row, from left to right) Glenn Tobey, Noel Radcliffe, Barbara Palmer, Patrick Dougherty, Dany Carol, Bonnie Blanchette, Gary Rebstock, (front row, left to right) Katrina Tobey, Cathy Beedle, Deanne Kroll, Phyllis Jazdzewski, and Tom Jazdzewski. Master Lin is at the far right. Not pictured are Darcie Gustine, Dave Johnson, Sheila Judd, Joyce Perkins, and Jennie Trotter.

Master Healer: (in photo below) Dave Johnson, Spring Forest Qigong President and C.E.O. (at the podium), and Master Lin (far right), present Master Healer certificates to (from left to right) Patrick Dougherty (Level I), Arlis Feser (Level II), Mary Zelmer (Level I), Bonnie Blanchette (Level I), Sheryl Scheller (Level I), Deanne Kroll (Level II), Sheila Judd (Level I), Tom Jazdzewski (Level I), and Darcie Gustine (Level II). Darcie is behind Master Lin.

Cancer CD image

Saturday evening brought an SFQ first--a meditation concert (photo below) performed by members of the

Chinese Music Ensemble: (from left to right) Peiju Picard, Principal Musician; Zhang Ying, renowned

musician, composer, and co-creator of Spring Forest meditation music; and Charlotte King, founder and president of the Chinese Music Ensemble, who has also performed for SFQ meditation CDs. Master Lin sat center stage in full lotus position and, with a hauntingly lovely melody being created behind him, led participants in a guided meditation.

Cancer CD imageMuch healing took place at this conference, and many things were learned, including:

For a long and healthy life, forgive yourself and others.
Be flexible in the face of frustration and disappointment.
Realize you are an energy being and a being of love.
The purpose of life is happiness.
A simple smile will start your love energy moving.

Cancer CD imageAfter the conference, Francisco Nunes of the Netherlands sent us a photo of Master Lin meditating on stage (left) and wrote, "This photo was taken at the very end of Friday's evening meditation. You probably didn't see it, since you were supposed to have your eyes shut and be in deep meditation [Francisco must have peeked.]. For those who weren't there...well, make sure you are there next time!"


Master Chunyi LinAsk Master Lin

Do you have something you would like to ask Master Lin? Each month we will select a question that has been sent to us and publish the answer in this newsletter (your name will not be used). Please keep in mind that Master Lin does not diagnose medical conditions and will not be able to personally answer each question. If you would like a member of our support team to get back to you, please make note of that in your e-mail or letter. Send questions to

Question: If we are truly comprised of energy as our life force, how important is proper nutrition to overall health? Thank you for your response.

Answer: We are all energy beings. As a form of energy, we need support so that we can keep this form of energy going to the right direction. Proper nutrition is very important in our life. When you eat right and healthy, your body is healthy and happy. Nutrition, exercises, sleeping, and a positive attitude are four major parts of a good life. Nutrition is very important to overall health.


Level I Instructor
Certification Program

As mentioned in our last newsletter, a part of Master Lin's mission for many years has become a reality. There is now a program to certify people to teach Level I of Spring Forest Qigong. Instructor beta classThis two-day class will give instructors the tools they need to deliver a consistent presentation of Level I information to their students.

Plans for three Spring Forest Qigong instructor certification classes in 2008, to be held in the Minneapolis area, are now in place. Classes will be held:

May 16 and 17 at the Oak Ridge Conference Center
August 15 and 16 (location to be announced)
October 3 and 4 (location to be announced)

Instructor breakoutThere are many benefits of being a Level I Certified Instructor, including:

1. A multimedia presentation licensed to you with content slides, video, and sound (PowerPoint and/or DVD)

2. A trainer's manual with key steps, critical points, etc., for each module

3. An instructor discount on all training products (DVDs, CDs, and manuals) ordered through SFQ (web site or store)

4. Recognition and promotion on SFQ's web site, allowing clients to search for Level I Certified Instructors in specific areas (by zip code), find out when classes are scheduled, etc. SFQ will assist in promotion and advertising of your classes.

Applicants for this class must have completed Spring Forest Qigong Levels I, II, and III, and will need to pass a criminal background check. For information on fees (applicants who attended the guide class in 2005 may inquire about a discount) and applications, contact the SFQ Center at 952-593-5555.

(Photo above, right: Level I Instructor Certification beta class. Photo above, left: beta class breakout session)


SFQ International Guild Update

· At the May 10 Guild meeting, held at the Eisenhower Community Center in Hopkins, Minnesota, Master Lin shared teachings on death and the next circle of life.Peiju on WTCQ Day

· There is no Guild meeting scheduled for May 24, due to the Memorial Day holiday weekend.

· On April 26 the Guild participated in World Tai Chi and Qigong Day at Normandale Community College in Bloomington, Minnesota. Twenty-six healers provided SFQ healing sessions for more than 350 participants. It was a wonderful thing to see our healers take Master Lin's vision of a healer in every family and a world without pain out into the world.

If you would like to know more about the SFQ International Guild, please visit the Guild page on the SFQ web site.
(In photo above, Peiju Picard shares her healing energy with a World Tai Chi and Qigong Day participant.)

Level I Class Added

A new Spring Forest Qigong Level I class has been added to the list of previously-scheduled Level I classes and will be held on the Woodwinds Health Campus at 1925 Woodwinds Drive in Woodbury, Minnesota, on Saturday, June 7, 2008, from 8:30 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. The curriculum will remain the same and will include:

· History of qigong
· General principles of qigong
· Three main elements of qigong
· Yin/yan philosophy
· Study of the universe
· Six keys to success
· Five causes of energy blockage
· "Sword finger" technique for helping others

Healing techniques that will be taught include:

· Beginning of the Universe
· Forming of Yin and Yang
· Moving of Yin and Yang--to build energy in the internal organs
· Breathing of the Universe--good for the lungs
· Joining of Yin & Yang--to balance the body's energy
· Seven Steps of New Life--to open all of the body's energy channels
· Ending Exercise--to harvest energy (qi) in the body
· Small University--the most powerful meditation exercise in Spring Forest Qigong
· Self Concentration--meditation to open more channels and to discover self-awareness

To register for this class, or any other, contact Normandale Community College at 952-487-8336, or vist their web site.


Celebrating Vesak

Vesak is an annual celebration of the Buddha's birth, death, and enlightenment, and is observed in many different ways all over the world. Commonly, Buddhist monks recite the 2,500-year-old teachings of the Buddha and call upon people to live in peace and harmony, respecting other religious faiths. They also try to bring a measure of happiness into the lives of less-fortunate people with gifts of food, money, and loving deeds.

A Vesak celebration was held Saturday, May 10, 2008, at Gustavus Adolphus College in St. Peter, Minnesota. The theme of this year's celebration was "Meditative Healing," and the observance started with a meditation at the International Center, followed by a Sri Lankan curry luncheon for all who attended.

Master Lin began the afternoon events as the keynote speaker, sharing a healing meditation following his talk. After the keynote and healing meditation, there was a panel discussion focusing on the theme of the day. Panelists included Master Lin, nursing professor Jane Coleman, Buddhist monk Bhante Sathi, acupuncturist Amy Zoet, and energy therapist Melissa Shelton-Davies.

The day's celebration concluded with a blessing and a closing ceremony.


Following are suggested criteria to attain the different levels of Healing Master:


Master Healer Level 1

Master Healer Level 2

Master Healer Level 3


· Must have taken SFQ Levels 1, 2, and 3 at least two times each
· Must have attended at least two SFQ advanced retreats

· Must have taken SFQ Levels 1, 2, 3, and 4 at least two times each
· Must have attended at least four SFQ advanced retreats

· Must have taken SFQ Levels 1, 2, 3, and 4 at least four times each
· Must have attended at least eight SFQ advanced retreats


Must have assisted at least 150 others with healing themselves through individual, phone, or distance sessions

Must have assisted at least 1,000 others with healing themselves through individual, phone, or distance sessions

(To be determined)


Must have documented results/testimonials from at least 10 individuals

Must have documented results/testimonials from at least 40 individuals

(To be determined)


· Must meet and exceed standards found in code of ethics
· Must pass criminal background check
· Must meet and exceed standards of SFQ Master program

(To be determined)

SFQ Practice

30-60 minutes/day

1-2 hours/day

(To be determined)



Master Lin will review ability to detect, evaluate, and treat energy blockages.
Accuracy levels will be established by Master Lin.

Master Lin will review improvement in ability to detect, evaluate, and treat energy blockages.
Accuracy levels will be established by Master Lin and will reflect a significant improvement over Level 1.

(To be determined)

Application Essay

Must submit essay to address following:

1) Why did you choose Spring Forest Qigong?

2) Tell me from your heart: Why do you want to become a Spring Forest Master Healer?

3) How will you practice Spring Forest Qigong?

(To be determined)


Services Available at SFQ

In-Person Sessions at the SFQ Center

During your half-hour session at the SFQ Center, you will sit comfortably and share your concerns with an Advanced SFQ Specialist. He or she will move a hand several inches from your body to detect and remove energy blockages. Active exercises and/or healing meditations may be suggested for further benefit. When he is available, Master Lin will spend the last five minutes of your session continuing to assist you in your healing journey.

Phone Appointments

Appointments with Master Lin, Master Nance, or one of the Advanced SFQ Specialists, are also available by telephone. During a phone appointment, you briefly describe your concerns and then sit quietly while blockages are being detected and removed. Following the session, you may meditate or just rest for about 30 minutes to allow the energy to continue to move.

Distance Sessions

With this type of session, there is no physical or verbal contact involved. Using simple information (a name, a location, a brief description of the area of concern), Master Lin, Master Nance, or one of the Specialists will remotely detect blockages and work to eliminate them.

*Active Exercise Classes

Two Level I Active Exercise classes are available at the SFQ Center: one on Friday at noon and one on Tuesday evenings at 6:00 p.m. These classes focus on techniques to help relieve pain, reduce stress, and develop physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual health.

*Coaching Sessions

In a coaching session, trained SFQ staff members will work one-on-one or in small groups to help you develop and use your natural ability to heal yourself and others.

*SPECIAL NOTE: When you attend a coaching session or an Active Exercise class, you will receive a discount on your Center appointment during that week.

Scheduling: To schedule any of the above, or for more information, please call the Spring Forest Center at 952-593-5555.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~


Spring Forest currently offers four levels of classes/workshops through Normandale Community College in Bloomington, Minnesota: Level I for health, Level II for healing, Level III for advanced energy development and healing, and Level IV for techniques for spiritual healing and even more advanced ways to collect energy.

Conferences, Retreats, and Workshops

Conferences, retreats, and workshops are scheduled throughout the year. Keep an eye on our web site (or this newsletter!) for announcements.


Thank You!

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5/14/2008 04:26:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@Triple G - G, you know, I kind of gave up chatting with you herer because you never really seem to answer, even obliquely.

Plus I think your whole imagining toddlergasms with actual real people thing was so supercreepy that I didn't really want to even stand too close to your bicycle-seat-sniffing ass in case a thunderbolt from the heavens came ripping down and tore you a new third eye or something (mob of angry peasants, slinking lightless shapeless hunter of the damned, what-EVA).

But that last post was just pure spam, man. I mean, I write stuff that is occasionally inane and meaningless enough (or maybe just looks that way, ha fire walk with me ha) to be considered a waste of space, so I sure can't begrudge you your endless incomprensible posts. But I feel there's a rule here that won't bend quite as far as the completely violable rule of relevance to original posting (I mean, Jeff just said 'more later' and we've written a book here, fachrissakes).

You need to write at least a good part of your damn post, man. Like, that was a scan of a brochure sans pix, dude. WTF.

Springy Dingdong Corp. oughtta fire you for misusung their literature for your own insane personal purposes. If I ran the multi-level-marketing sceme you work for, I wouldn't even just stick you in the product warehouse and cut your hours pending re-education by Master Dingdong.

I'd can you. Take a break, smoke one, get steadied out, G. You're shredding out here. Take a bubble bath or something.

Actually, that's what I'm gonna do. Don't go imagining me in there, now.

Jeez. Now I'm gonna have to wear my shorts. Who knows what kind of pervy spying powers you've got (kidding)?

Anyway, don't spam so hard. Go slam the ham to get out your jams, instead. Ouch, I just went beyond doggerel and into dog poo there.

Not Ogden Nash by any stretch,
Lord Reptor.

5/14/2008 04:53:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

Hey, my confirmation word was 'mvmag'. After my obvious pleading for a secret job....maybe this is a message from the MIB telling me I should write for a movie mag.

Gods, what an odd fate. But I guess I could indulge in unlimited vitriol as a critic. That would be OK.

Ready to savage DiCrapio (even though he was good in that Patricia Highsmith one, the remake - that was a good one and I must see the original and read all those books),
Lord Reptor.

5/14/2008 04:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Today I discovered a new book: Quanta by J. Andrade e Silva and G. Lochak. Well it was published in 1969 by World University Library. But, amazingly, it subscribes to a Louis de Broglie angle on the pilot wave, a more recent one which I hadn't known about (since it's been suppressed). Nevertheless what de Broglie discovered is something that I also have considered.

So I did a bit of searching to see what happened with it and sure enough there's a recent paper which is totally amazing stating that indeed there's no scientific reason not to believe in what are normally called

"Ghostfields" -- or superliminal, faster-than-light quantum waves.

This acknowledgement by mainstream physicists totally boggles the mind -- it's an EXACT affirmation of what shamans have been experiencing .

On the Physical Reality of Quantum Waves
Journal Foundations of Physics
Publisher Springer Netherlands
ISSN 0015-9018 (Print) 1572-9516 (Online)
Issue Volume 34, Number 11 / November, 2004
DOI 10.1007/s10701-004-1309-y
Pages 1675-1694
Subject Collection Physics and Astronomy
SpringerLink Date Tuesday, March 15, 2005

PDF (215.2 KB)

On the Physical Reality of Quantum Waves

Gennaro Auletta1 Contact Information and Gino Tarozzi1 Contact Information
(1) Institute of Philosophy, University of Urbino, Urbino, 610 29, Italy

Received: 12 September 2004
The main interpretations of the quantum-mechanical wave function are presented emphasizing how they can be divided into two ensembles: The ones that deny and the other ones that attribute a form of reality to quantum waves. It is also shown why these waves cannot be classical and must be submitted to the restriction of the complementarity principle. Applying the concept of smooth complementarity, it is shown that there can be no reason to attribute reality only to the events and not to the wave or to the initial state of a given system. Thereafter, an experiment proposed by the authors is presented, where it is shown that the wave-like behaviour allows predictions that are not allowed on the grounds of a particle-like behaviour. In conclusion, we upheld that quantum waves must be real even if they do not belong to the same ontological level of events, which connected with particle detections.

Keywords complementarity - ghostfield - virtual field - potentiality - empty wave
Institute of Philosophy, University of Urbino, Urbino 610 29, Italy;

Contact Information Gennaro Auletta

Contact Information Gino Tarozzi

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5/14/2008 05:26:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

Today I discovered an amazing new technique for balanced living.

It's called 'posting a damn link to things I didn't write which are irrelevant and/or consist of pages of cites and little else'.

Triple G is truly using up too many damn electrons to say whatever he's trying to say, which is to say that is assuming the guy actually has something to say.

I'm going outside.

Betting TripleG sports a closet collection ranging from Tom Vu to Tony Robbins,
Lord Reptor.

5/14/2008 06:05:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@TripleG yet again (don't worry, I'll start ignoring you again as soon as I can manage - I know you're well aware of your own lousy chatiquette and that my blandishments are falling on deaf and crazy ears):

By all means, post the abstract of a paper if you think it supports your, uhm, thesis or whatever...but why in the triple purple hells of the Pennsylvania personal pages did you feel the need to post all those damn citations?

Anybody who went to look at the paper referred to, which is likely nothing to do with shamans anyway (although I am not going to go and find out, I can tell you, I am going to go and plant some fizzucking beets instead because this whole shebang is plumb ridiculous anyway), can look at the cites Them Bloody Well Selves.

So, seriously - why? I know you must think you have some reason for your borderline sociopathic cut-and-paste tactics, but I truly cannot imagine what it might be. It's beyond me.

TripleG, if you actually are receiving signals here and your presence is not just a bizarre malfunction of an AI pornbot spam-o-matic that got stuffed full of the wrong source materiel and went mad....








and papers you didn't write that you should either a)sum up for us laymen, b)link to, or c)read again so you CAN sum them up or d)stay away from as reading them is possibly bad for you and whatever other disruptively non-relevant text-clumps you spam up the page with that I haven't thought of...

why, man?

Probably being controlled by Platonic Star Blazers because I listened to Steppenwolf as a child instead of Chun Pring Big Thing's non-Western helical ukelele music,
Lord Reptor

P.S. I really am going outside now. You cannot possibly bother me there. I don't know why I even addressed the whole issue.

A waste of keystrokes, which while very cheap are not free (every thirty-five words or so costs me a minute, plus overhead).

Generous with my time as always,
Lord Reptor.

5/14/2008 06:35:00 PM  
Blogger tridentblue said...

Maybe you should stay looking away, at least from the subject matter. What is it they say? Stare into the abyss long enough it stares into you. We become part of it. I for one have had enough, its time to look for some possibilities and solutions. Its just more fun at this point.

peace, I hope you will keep writing.

5/14/2008 07:34:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Tridentblue said:

"I for one have had enough, its time to look for some possibilities and solutions. Its just more fun at this point."

Just a link or two for you about the bioregional state, because planet earth already has a green majority, according to polls.

5/14/2008 08:30:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@Mark - Holy crap, it's going to take me forever to read those links. Looks interesting, though. Looked awful complicated, though. Hope nobody wants to tell me what to put in my compost. I put in a fish last year. A big one.

@Tridentblue - good to see you on here again. I vaguely remember enjoying something you said once. It was like all advanced or something I think.

5/14/2008 10:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah I emailed the primary author,
Gennaro Auletta -- he's got a new paper in the Royal Society Interface journal on "Top-Down decision making."

Should be pretty conspiratorial -- just like the reality of consciousness which can not be measured by technology yet logically inferred.

5/14/2008 11:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is my first attempt at remote viewing so make allowances. I see Jeff has put the family in the car. The weather is getting warmer and the back-roads are empty this time of year. they're dawdling towards a dart-hole in the map, leaving the comments section to butt heads together. If the post turns out to be short you'll know I'm right.

5/14/2008 11:53:00 PM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

This is the only blog I know
where you can get 118 comments on
a post you didn't write.
My complements...

5/15/2008 01:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should have said 119. Can't you count.

5/15/2008 04:00:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Thanks Lord Reptor, you make me laugh, G to the three never makes me laugh.

Hey G, do you ever remove yourself from that silly loop that is running in your head? You know, maybe try sometime to (OH MY GOD) speak to what another person is thinking. No? Well, this makes you into a lousy salesman for Qigong.

And Shrub, I imagine that you only defend G because there is no prospect for exchange or dialogue, the thing that you most love.

5/15/2008 06:45:00 AM  
Blogger fletcher said...

this shit is too funny..

"Barack Hussein Obama played and pimped Warren Ballantine, Michael Baisden, Russ Parr, Roland Martin, and Tavis Smiley, just to name a few. They gave it up for free. He pimped nearly all of the black media, gave them no money, but they gave it up for free. I say unto you that they were played by the master player. Now, this trinity of hell: the Father, the Reverend Dr. Jeremiah Wright; the Son, the Senator Barack Hussein Obama; and the whore girl, Oprah Winfrey. These three, now, they are looking to be the president, the vice president, and the secretary of state. This is the report on the trinity of hell, and I am Pastor James David Manning."

5/15/2008 07:59:00 AM  
Blogger fletcher said...

@ Lord Reptor. I too laughed. Thank you.
I saw some bizzare chemtrails 2 days ago right above my workplace. They were all just lines going from one horizon to the other. And then for the past two days my alergies have been unbearable without claritin.
Dang chemtrails.
Or could be that it's springtime...for hitler...!
But seriously, I pointed to the lines in the sky, growing more luminous and spreading as they fell to earth, asked one of my co-workers, "Hey, what do you suppose is the deal with those lines?" and he was amused and thought it funny that I would see a "conspiracy" in mere lines in the sky. I then pointed out another plane flying higher, that was leaving a contrail that dissipated almost immediately behind it and merely asked my friend, "so how come the ones all lined up there stay while that one is dissipating?" He turned to me and laughed, and said "ooooh a "conspiracy"...come ON!" and then went on his merry way. I didn't even have a chance to really discuss it with him as he had already made up his mind. Perhaps the most infuriating thing was that I was just asking a question and his innability to even ask a question of the world around him was disturbing.
This guy believes in ghosts though...does all those ghost hunter things..rolling hills and all that BS...

5/15/2008 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Awe, poor misunderstood Fletcher comes here looking for a support group because he's so rejected IRL. He's willing to do anything to be accepted, including swallowing Schlounder's and Lord Repetition's jizz. How fitting that Lord Repulsive was a prison cook. Gee, I wonder what we might find under the Dark Lord's floorboards, let alone SounderSchmucks? I don't want to know.

There's no salvation here, boys, and girls. Just the ramblings of lunatics who have been rejected by an insane society. See, it's all one big rabbit hole, whether it be "out there," or "in here." But hey, if it floats your boat and makes you feel better, go on believing that you have it all figured out as we all slip ever closer to extinction.

5/15/2008 08:41:00 AM  
Blogger fletcher said...

oh that was a good one!
really got me right where i live you did!
what was your problem with the fact that I pointed out that there are idiots who cannot even question the world they live in?
is it because YOU are unable to do that, Shrub?
I mean, I know it's an obvious thing to point out but oh well, it still hits me that people just can't even begin to imagine that there are unanswered questions.
Did mommy and daddy not give you enough attention when you were a baby? is that why you seek out negative attention here on this forum? I mean you know you will always get what you crave here. pretty pathetic.

5/15/2008 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Fletcher, did you tell your colleague that you believe in God?

Let's have a dialogue, Fletcher. What do you think about Alice's ass? Do you like the tattoo?

Continuing with our dialogue, Fletcher, what are your thoughts on Chemtrails? Do you have your mind made up as to what they are? Or, are you waiting for the likes of Mark to tell you what they are so you can feel hopeless, or sure of yourself, and then along comes Schlounder and his crew to tell you how to personally correct your thinking in order not to feel hopeless, or so sure of yourself, and before you know it they have you dancing like a circus bear.

5/15/2008 09:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Long-time lurker, but this is maybe my second post. As someone who recognizes the dearth of resources such as Jeff's, I have always been appreciative of the effort he puts in to get info to people who don't know they need it.

Sadly, whenever he takes a hiatus, I've noticed that inter-poster attacks increase. It's as if, in the absence of fresh meat to chew on, the restless natives start eyeing each other hungrily. Someone smarter than me -- not like that's a feat -- once told me to be watchful within myself for those traits that I despise in others. Reminds me of that old thing about monster-hunters taking care that they don't become the very monster they're chasing...

If you participate on this board, you are engaged in the hunt. Isn't the monster big enough, bad enough, that we need all hands on deck? Does it serve anyone to stoke the attrition rate within our ranks?

Just a thought.

P.S. I'm not ashamed of my words, I just forgot my login and am too lazy to retrieve it! I am Subliminal Minister :)

5/15/2008 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


5/15/2008 10:35:00 AM  
Blogger fletcher said...

yeah. sure. c'mon. it's so fun reading GGG's newest adventures though and the book he just read in its entirity cut & pasted on here for you to read! OR the creepy attacks from anonymous Shrub! Yeah! the coments field should probably only open once the post has been made by Jeff. Yeah, but then what fun would that be??

5/15/2008 10:41:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

I can't help wondering how those 25,000 buried in the rubble are connecting to that cosmic consciousness we call empathy.

What was the point? There is a downside to having that kind of power all to yourself. You can't touch your enemies you can only raise the stakes.

Now is the time...

Drew..You and your books need to stretch a bit. Shorten the strings or lengthen them then pluck away. What is going on? Is it kinetic or is it magnetic. What if the connection is spin and not collisions? What if vibration is north and south pole percussions that rotate the molecules. The string is vibrating in both directions simultaneously and the sound created is vibrating the molecules in the air in all directions. Put a little English on the ball and you will see a different result. String theory Drew. Light, heat, photons...all turning and turning...

5/15/2008 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why the hell are you reading the comments, anyway? As Jeff said, the Forum is always available and open to all.

Where's the dialogue, Fletcher? Oh, that's right, you're really not interested in dialogue, you just like to pretend you are, like so many of the rest who post here.

For what it's worth, you dimwits, Jeff has made it clear on more than one occasion in the past, that he doesn't even read the comments section, so why do you bother to speak to him via the comments section, considering?

The comments section of Jeff's Blog is what makes Jeff's Blog unique, and sets it off from the multitude of other blogs out there. The comments give Jeff's Blog character and dimension. They're crazy, unpredictable, wild and wooley. What's bothersome is that some of you wish to shut that down, especially when there's the Forum for those who prefer a more "respectable" venue. That kind of censorship resembles very much the Fascist Totalitarianism all of you are so fond of criticizing here. That's very telling, IMHO.

No censorship. Leave the comments alone. If you don't like it, don't read, or join the Forum.

Now, back to the dialogue. Fletcher, what do you think of Alice's ass and accompanying Tattoo? Also, please elaborate about Chemtrails as you were asked to do.

5/15/2008 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ooooh, scary!! Mr. Anonymous above used all caps. That must mean he/she/it means business. You guys better watch out and behave yourselves.

Listen, you idiots. If someone's spoon feeding you your daily pablum, you have no business directing them on how they should feed you. If you don't like what is served, how it's served, and what it's served with, then go feed your fucking self. It't that simple, morons.

And, to the person who asked, Alice has a sweet ass and the tattoo's cute and appropriately placed.

5/15/2008 11:48:00 AM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@Anonny nonny no: All service workers are prisoners. Especially cooks.

Gosh, you should read Orwell's Down And Out In Paris And London.

Nothing's changed, except that we use horrible fleshcutting steel scrubbies instead of blistermaking chains-mit-sand to clean the burnt and horrible pots.

Yes, we will serve you your toast from the floor. No, you will not be able to tell. Have a nice drop of Hep C blood in your omelet from the nose of the crackhead over on the grill whose fresh vomit graces the garbage can this morning.

And yes, there is another side to the coin. The nice ones, like me, will try very hard to please you and ensure your safety - but we don't make up much of professional kitchen demographics.

You ever watch Hell's Kitchen? That's a joke. Those people are pussies. They would literally get hurt in a real kitchen. On-purpose hurt. Whoops-you-fell-down and I'm first cook. Handful of salt in your soup and you're fired. Oh, you must have forgotten to turn the timer on, the oven down, that pan off, you're fired.

Myself, I welcome the possible collapse of the money system that forces less-sociopathic members to behave like the maniacs who are currently establishing the trend of our great dreaming.. Maybe then I can defend my garden with my own value to the community and my personal strength instead of a stream of the hard-to-come-by numbered shit-tickets that make the world go round.

As to the, Hell, no. I got bored with forums long time ago. I like to come here and make a spectacle of myself still, though. It's kind of like a gentlemen's club, only no dues and no gentlemen.

Jeff always has something interesting to say, and his fairly ascetic decorative style sets off both his photoshop art and the lovely endless text that flows from the fingers of the few, the freaky, the frankly FUBAR, the friendly folks of the Rigint Blog.

Hopefully the place will stay open. If not - well, I'll just have to go and act the goat somewhere else.

Prison cook! Hah! If I was in jail with guaranteed three-hots-and-a-cot you couldn't make me do that crap with a taser and two Rottweilers. Maybe you've never had to make a living on your own, Nonny. Ever gone without food when you didn't want to?

Boy, getting jumped by anonymous hecklers does almost make me want to go play in the forum. It's like being attacked by little furry baby animals, all growling all seriously and biting bravely with their little teeny teeth. Gives one hope for the future. Some are sure to grow up into big strong independent minds.

Makes getting old feel a bit more like lying on the porch in the sun and a bit less like quicksand.

Chuckling at the plethora of bumbling puppies in this world and this forum,
Lord Reptor.

P.S. Lord Repetitious? Well, I do tell my best stories more than once. But I'm smart enough to paraphrase, at least.

Smart enough to Smart enough to Smart enough to paraphrase, at least,
Lord Reptor.

5/15/2008 12:37:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

The looking glass?
CIA mind control.
they don't even exist.

5/15/2008 12:38:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

"That kind of censorship resembles very much the Fascist Totalitarianism all of you are so fond of criticizing here. That's very telling, IMHO.

[Really? give me a break. Yes. You are the ultimate de-bunker de-bunker bunker.]

"No censorship. Leave the comments alone. If you don't like it, don't read, or join the Forum."

well...there is a light in the forest after all!
but it IS jeff's blog, you know.
we just hijacked the comments section because jeff leaves us hangin.
but that's definitely half the fun (sometimes) of this blog.
real dialog would be nice.
So chemtrails...
what don't i know that I should, Shrub?
enlighten me oh great anonymous shrub....

5/15/2008 12:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The hour-long audio clip was found as part of a data dump done by the pentagon, in response the NY Times Freedom of Information Act request.

5/15/2008 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Umm nice try people but you're using CLASSICAL physics (longitudinal) not QUANUTM physics (noncommutative statistics).

In fact quantum is also converted to classical via the Poisson Bracket and so both are based on "divide and average" symmetric math.

Quantum waves can not be measured by either classical or quantum math. Instead they can only be logically inferred.

That same is true in alchemy as well in regards to consciousness -- so science has rediscovered consciousness but can do anything with it. Alchemy DOES develop "different levels of emptiness" as consciousness but this, in contrast to science, requires total separation from females.

So while science is destroying Nature in the return to consciousness, alchemists harmonized Nature in the return to consciousness -- at the expense of limiting physical human expansion.

5/15/2008 01:31:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@Fletcher: Aaaah, chemtrails! (lights up). Dude, that brings my mood right back up.

Now, as to all the connections between 'chemtrails' and other elements of the mysteries of the hidden castes (who IS taking those cattle cunnies? Do they fry them up, or extract immortality juice from them, or is it that they are a component in the artificial food chain which entraps their constructed golem servants...the greys?) - I don't have enough data.

I have only what the rest of you have (the yammerings, whisperings, proud lies and tearful truthtelling of the Electronic Grapevine) plus my own limited experience, which includes:

1.) Around twenty years ago, while cycling with a friend (in fact drafting each other in turns down a sunblasted highway, ye Gods we were quick and strong then), I heard buddy's bike sounds vanish from my back and felt the space open. Shoulder-check, and ram to a stop at the verge - buddy's down and making a horrible choking noise.

Run up - he's got some kind of clear glue-looking stuff all over his face, and his mouth and nose are full of it. After a moment's struggle, it kind of comes off/goes away. No residue. WTF. He says, a la Creedence Clearwater: "It came outta the sky."

Since then, I've found a similar residue in the shade below my walnut tree, on a rock and on the dirt. At first I thought it was some new kind of garbage from over my neighbour's fence (he has a few unfortunate ways, that man, but he respects my psychosis level well enough since our little 4AM session over his dog) - looked like model glue, and for some reason said neighbour came to mind (there isn't a substance he hasn't used, abused, or even seduced). When touched, it ran like clear mercury and then vanished.

The same day, I found a perfectly circular patch of baby grasshoppers near my composter. Just on the other side of the fence from where the Man Next Door grows his, um, houseplants.

Two and two together (well, more like a fractal chunk of one and an imaginary number, but let's say two and two for the sake of a simpler bottom line here), that stuff is some kind of containment sac for delivering fragile payloads. Chopper was over just the day before (welcome to rural B.C., dude).

2. Last summer, for several weeks we had frequent and irregular visits from at least two large grey planes, twin-fan (not jet, not prop) with rounded wingtips and tailplanes. I'm guessing some kind of Douglas-Connell machines. They made classic tic-tac-toe patterns in the sky each visit (two-three hours, two-three times a week that I saw) with grey and very persistent contrails.

Every day they came was sunny. Each contrail, as the day wore on, instead of dissipating, began to grow long threads of vapour like fishbones along its length. By mid-afternoon, a sunny day was a hazy one, and frequently an evening and a day of rain, cloud, and lower temps would follow. Kurt Vonnegut's older brother must be rolling in his grave.

Those poor people in Burma.

Weren't they saying there were not usually cyclones there?

I don't know about hijacked, Fletcher. I'd probably get all glowy inside if a bunch of relatively (on average) intelligent and interesting (or, if you like, abnormal - same difference in this Aldous Huxley ant farm) people roosted on my patch. As long as I didn't have to feed them, and it looks like this is a self-sufficient bunch of clucking hens in this yard.

Tickatickatock my golden hen, she layin eggs for the gentlemen,
sometimes nine,
sometime ten...

Dreaming rural dreams with a dash of Eek-A-Mouse and Tenor Saw (praise all gods for recorded music!),
Lord Reptor.

5/15/2008 01:32:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@Ericswan - Dude, two foor high? One, a foor must be like a French inch (kidding). Two, I just finished planting. And it's still cold (although apparently we're to get a twenty-celsius jump in temperature today, according to CBC - oh, THAT sounds normal. Believe it when I see it. I must remember to water, I don't want the cat helping to fertilize things (she hates mud but likes to dig up seedtapes and piss on them).

Greenly (with envy),
Lord Reptor.

5/15/2008 01:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, that's some kind of dialogue. You're full of shit, Sounder. There's no dialogue here, so you can't pin that on Drew. He's no different than all the rest of us. It's purely monologue. I've yet to see Mark have a dialogue with anyone here, as I've yet to see you have a dialogue with anyone here, so you can shove your self-righteousness up your ass.

Come on, Fletchard, don't be afraid to comment about Alice's shapely ass and tasteful tattoo. She won't bite you. We promise. Or, do you prefer to comment instead on Sounder's ass? That's alright. If that's your flavor, but please don't pack his fudge in public for all to see. That's downright distasteful.

And Lord Retard, you make no more sense than Drew, and at least Drew brings something of substance to the table other than recipes.

You loonies are a hoot. A bunch of nutters, you are. Carry on you freaks.

5/15/2008 02:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fletcher, once and for all, will you please comment on my ass? What do you think? Do you like it? Does it arouse you? Or, does it repulse you because it's hairless and silky smooth versus rugged and hirsute. Don't be shy, Fletcharoo. I like you and I won't bite.

5/15/2008 03:12:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@Anonymon - I'm charmed and flattered that you've been reading my blog. I apologize for the dearth of recipes up there. I only put 'em up if I make something that's clearly mine own and clearly worthy of a Lord. And if I feel like it, am not drunk, etc...

I may have another one up there tomorrow - I'm trying an experiment with rhubarb. I got a big heap of nice rhubarb as a present from the previous owner of my little fortress, who is considering using a bulldozer on the Rhubarb Thing he found on his new property.

I dunno about making the same amount of sense as the G-man - maybe I need the translator device that comes in the box of whatever bizarre Chem-O-Pops I suspect him of having had for breakfast one day (kinda like Jim from Taxi crossed with the Joker crossed with a Life cereal commercial..."Oh, God! What happened to Mikey?")

@Alice's ass - All that 'I won't bite' routine reminds me of the Haida story about the woman whose vagina was really a snake's head. You just put your pants back on.

@All : I just popped in to say - thanks to those encouraging voices that occasionally drop me a pat on the head. I'm pleased that I can entertain, and the kudage means much to me.

All hurt puppy-dog eyes at the mean names,
Lord Reptor.

5/15/2008 04:08:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

Carrying on the, uh, dialogue with whichever anonymouse was squeaking my name (albeit in a garbled fashion) most lately - it's not that TripleG doesn't occasionally make some sense, either.

Unfortunately, this means a person can end up slogging through his forest of verbiage for what seems years, instead of just binning the idea of reading the stuff.

And you don't get that time back.

Listening to Michael Jackson's Smooth Criminal - most appropriate for popping in here while the kettle boils,
Lord Reptor.

5/15/2008 05:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Meanwhile back at the lab...let's crank up this global ELF machine again and see what happens to Billy:

Extremely-low-frequency magnetic fields disrupt rhythmic slow activity in rat hippocampal slices
Context Sensitive Lilnks

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Author(s): Bawin SM, Satmary WM, Jones RA, Adey WR, Zimmerman G
Source: BIOELECTROMAGNETICS Volume: 17 Issue: 5 Pages: 388-395 Published: 1996
Times Cited: 31 References: 27
Abstract: Several studies have indicated that weak, extremely-low-frequency (ELF; 1-100 Hz) magnetic fields affect brain electrical activity and memory processes in man and laboratory animals, Our studies sought to determine whether ELF magnetic fields could couple directly with brain tissue and affect neuronal activity in vitro. We used rat hippocampal slices to study field effects on a specific brain activity known as rhythmic slow activity (RSA), or theta rhythm, which occurs in 7-15 s bursts in the hippocampus during memory functions. RSA, which, in vivo, is a cholinergic activity, is induced in hippocampal slices by perfusion of the tissue with carbachol, a stable analog of acetylcholine. We previously demonstrated that the free radical nitric oxide (NO), synthesized in carbachol-treated hippocampal slices, lengthened and destabilized the intervals between successive RSA episodes. Here, we investigate the possibility that sinusoidal ELF magnetic fields could trigger the NO-dependent perturbation of the rate of occurrence of the RSA episodes. Carbachol-treated slices were exposed for 10 min epochs to 1 or 60 Hz magnetic fields with field intensities of 5.6, 56, or 560 mu T (rms), or they were sham exposed. All exposures took place in the presence of an ambient DC field of 45 mu T, with an angle of -66 degrees from the horizontal plane. Sinusoidal 1 Hz fields at 56 and 560 mu T, but not at 5.6 mu T, triggered the irreversible destabilization of RSA intervals. Fields at 60 Hz resulted in similar, but not statistically significant, trends. Fields had no effects on RSA when NO synthesis was pharmacologically inhibited. However, field effects could take place when extracellular NO, diffusing from its cell of origin to the extracellular space, was chelated by hemoglobin. These results suggest that ELF magnetic fields exert a strong influence on NO systems in the brain; therefore, they could modulate the functional state of a variety of neuronal ensembles. (C) 1996 Wiley-Liss, Inc.
Document Type: Article
Language: English
Author Keywords: ELF magnetic fields; hippocampus; theta rhythm; nitric oxide
Addresses: Bawin, SM (reprint author), JERRY L PETTIS MEM VET ADM MED CTR, RES SERV 151, 11201 BENTON ST, LOMA LINDA, CA 92357 USA
Subject Category: Biology; Biophysics
IDS Number: VQ161
ISSN: 0197-8462

5/15/2008 06:30:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Shrub, do you ever calm down and lose that hateful tone? Hopefully you save it up for us and do not impose this shit on your wife and kids.

And yes, you are a chicken-shit, making like you are anon to any strangers looking in here, insuring that this place appears as just another shithole on the web. Good job.

5/15/2008 06:31:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@TripleG - Hey, wow, I think you might be sort of on-topic here, in terms of sky-trails and electromagnetic mind-control rays being a topic here.

The Russkies were publishing some truly mind-humping research back in the sixtieson observed effects of different fields (mostly ELF radio) on mammalian nervous systems. Maybe you can find something interesting for us.

You've heard of Russian sleep? Just the beginning of what any good spook with a First Home Brain Control kit can accomplish. Mood control at a distance, and everything from straight audio into the subject's brain to heartbeat destabilization up close.

What a suitcase full of fun must be available by now.

Now about those cell phone towers...

P.S. G, please do try to trim your pastes (cough) posts of unneeded tallow a little more. What can I say?

Vonnegut was onto this game, and how. ever read Sirens of Titan? If not, do, I mean really do. It won't save your life (nothing can), but it stands a good chance of helping you gain perspective.

Marching around with an antenna on my head,
Lord Reptor.

5/15/2008 07:22:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@TripleG - To clarify my last post there, 'the game' I refer to Vonnegut being onto (among all the other things Dr. V was onto) is the most interesting and far-reaching game of mind control, chemical, sociological, electronic, you name it.

You should see what he has to say about television in Hocus Pocus. Or about social propaganda in Breakfast of Champions.

Make a break from Dr. Chun King or whatever you're buried in at your local McHarknChuck's/ personal mental rape room, perched cross-legged on Grimace's hard plastic ass.

Off to make dinner (licken chegs an' Greek salad),
Lord Reptor.

5/15/2008 07:35:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

P.S. "Rented a tent, rented a tent rented a tent a tent"...

Nil bastardus non carbondurum (or is that illegitimi? damn!),
Lord Reptor.

5/15/2008 07:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Barracuda posted the following on the Forum, and I'll be damned if I don't agree. I share his/her sentiments. How about you?

Kennedy assassination research is a rarefied hobby practiced mostly by dillettantes rather than scientists and mostly for fun as a glorified game of "Clue." It is not a worthwhile pursuit, and is akin to watching "American Idol". What reason is there to fret and fret over the particular mechanism of the collapses while another 30,000 children starve to death each day? For justice? Whose justice? The victims? The perps have already gotten away with it. For truth? Whose truth? The last guy left to post? Don't get me wrong, now. I love to look at the pictures, the frame-by-frames, the Fireman's video, parse the NIST report, lambast the Comnmission, all that. But I don't think for a minute that this activity approaches something like striving for "justice." The only way "truth" can be served here is to "enact a response to the perpetrators" - a response like their feet kicking for purchase and finding none at about three feet off the ground.

God bless you all and keep you safe.


5/15/2008 08:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Locking your kid up because he's been meditating in the woods and can see auras on the other side of the country is not my idea of being "on to the game" or whatever. I've read Sirens of Titan or whatever. Breakfast of Champions sound too familiar for me not to have at least scanned it. I read Goodmorning Mr. Blackwater -- or whatever. I've read several of his books -- he was just a writer for bored house-wives.

My coworker is getting to me the new book put out by his son, posthumously, of hard to find Vonnegut short stories -- so we'll see if he outdoes his first and best novel: The Pianomaker (or whatever).

Rather he should have encouraged his son to do more meditation instead of locking him up so that he had to become a doctor. Tragic.

5/15/2008 08:59:00 PM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

Dearest Anon,
The correct count was
118 at the time I posted. My post
was a complement to Jeff's blog,
not a comment on the preceding
posts. So, yes. I can count. However,
you seem incapable of finding the
question mark key on your keyboard.
Or maybe its "stuck". Why don't
you give yourself a "name" so I can
make you look as foolish as I did
Ol' Shrub. After all..Once I was
through with him he packed his
bags and left town.

5/16/2008 02:10:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Anonymous said...

"Barracuda posted the following on the Forum, and I'll be damned if I don't agree. I share his/her sentiments. How about you?"

No thanks, besides the National Insecurity State does violence so much better than the 'dead enders' could ever dream of doing. So my question -back at ya is; How is it that killing becomes heroic when it's done in the name of the State? And how do you become informed by monitoring the plebes and still maintain the energy to serve the CTB?

5/16/2008 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounder said:

"No thanks, besides the National Insecurity State does violence so much better than the 'dead enders' could ever dream of doing."

Vibhu says:

What's a "dead ender"? That sounds derisive and dismissive, so please explain if it's not meant to be. As well, I believe Barracuda proposes more than just pure violence. I believe he also suggests aggressive mass resistance, disruption and ultimately intolerance. How do you feel about nationally organized mass strikes to shut down the system? What about civilly disobediant strategies such as shutting down airports and freeways through non-violent but disruptive actions?

Sounder said:

"How is it that killing becomes heroic when it's done in the name of the State?"

Vibhu says:

I'm not sure I understand the question. Mabe you can be more specific and less vague.

Sounder said:

"And how do you become informed by monitoring the plebes and still maintain the energy to serve the CTB?"

Vibhu says:

Once again, I don't comprehend your question. This is not a word game or a game of semantics and veiled jargon. It's a serious matter that requires a serious and clear response. What do you mean, exactly, by the statement above?

May God bless you and keep you safe,


5/16/2008 08:21:00 AM  
Blogger fletcher said...

@Lord Reptor:
I have heard of the strange
gossamer semi holographic jelly.
"fuck jelly!" someone said.
thanks for sharing your experience...
the circle of grasshoppers..
weird wild stuff.
wiki (i know not real reliable...but...) said:

Normal fallout of chemtrails are

Angel Hair, a silk-like substance that disintigrates on touch
Star Jelly, agellatinous goo-like substance
Acid Rain

also has some fun jellyfish-in-the-sky thingies..

Anonomous: Sounder said it better than I could ever hope to:
"... yes, you are a chicken-shit, making like you are anon to any strangers looking in here, insuring that this place appears as just another shithole on the web. Good job."

5/16/2008 08:23:00 AM  
Blogger fletcher said...
was the link oops.

5/16/2008 08:24:00 AM  
Blogger fletcher said...

wtf?? when i post the link it doesn't come up when i post it as a comment...oh whatever it's only mildly interesting and most likely totally why post it?
it's early and I'm not completely awake yet.

marching around with star jelly on my vagus nerve..

5/16/2008 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever happened to 'Et En Arcadia Ego'?


Chemtrails are in the usa, western Europe not in China how about africa? Any answers gratefully received.

That is all.

Lucky (cant remember my P/W)

5/16/2008 08:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Classic disinfo above, folks. That's not a dialogue, it's not informative, it's obvious disinfo, and the individual posting it has shown his true colors. He's not a poster to be taken seriously, and it's obvious he has posted under other headings than just Fletcher, yet has the audacity to chide those who are brave enough to remain anonymous. Not surprising, though, coming from people who portend to believe in some God. They're usually, or should I say, always, cowards.

5/16/2008 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 8:28, I commend you. We should ask questions rather than depositing dubious answers promulgated by dubious sources.

5/16/2008 08:38:00 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

Another martini for Dr. Bombay.

Come to think of it, he'll have 32:

"January 2, 2008
Op-Ed Contributor
What’s Your Consumption Factor?
Los Angeles

TO mathematicians, 32 is an interesting number: it’s 2 raised to the fifth power, 2 times 2 times 2 times 2 times 2. To economists, 32 is even more special, because it measures the difference in lifestyles between the first world and the developing world. The average rates at which people consume resources like oil and metals, and produce wastes like plastics and greenhouse gases, are about 32 times higher in North America, Western Europe, Japan and Australia than they are in the developing world. That factor of 32 has big consequences.

To understand them, consider our concern with world population. Today, there are more than 6.5 billion people, and that number may grow to around 9 billion within this half-century. Several decades ago, many people considered rising population to be the main challenge facing humanity. Now we realize that it matters only insofar as people consume and produce.

If most of the world’s 6.5 billion people were in cold storage and not metabolizing or consuming, they would create no resource problem. What really matters is total world consumption, the sum of all local consumptions, which is the product of local population times the local per capita consumption rate.

The estimated one billion people who live in developed countries have a relative per capita consumption rate of 32.

Most of the world’s other 5.5 billion people constitute the developing world, with relative per capita consumption rates below 32, mostly down toward 1."

Diamond is getting better I think than the Malthusianism he started with all those years ago. However, he still think's the whole USA or UK is sharing in that miraculous '32'. Instead, its mostly the 32 martini lunches were talking about, i.e. the corporate elites almost exclusively since most of the 'global trade' of the world (except the outlier of statist China) is now in the tendrils of very large corporate HQ cities, in their global city nodes, divorced from the rest of the framework of the world's billions.

Increasingly these global cities are divorced from their First World states in which they are, now, only geographically located instead of culturally or in terms of loyalty.

5/16/2008 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From Mark's Martini offering:

People in the third world are aware of this difference in per capita consumption, although most of them couldn’t specify that it’s by a factor of 32. When they believe their chances of catching up to be hopeless, they sometimes get frustrated and angry, and some become terrorists, or tolerate or support terrorists. Since Sept. 11, 2001, it has become clear that the oceans that once protected the United States no longer do so. There will be more terrorist attacks against us and Europe, and perhaps against Japan and Australia, as long as that factorial difference of 32 in consumption rates persists.

What a bunch of bullshit. Diamond trots out the terrorist threat to encourage us to consume less, and give more. How noble of him, or ignoble, should I say. If you don't make the change for the right reasons, then you're really not making a change, are you?

This disparity he speaks of has been prevalent for quite some time. Let's say a century, although it could be argued that it's longer than that. Considering this disparity has been prevalent and in your face for at least a century, where the hell are all the terrorist attacks on Western soil? 911 wasn't perpetrated by those without, as Diamond would have us believe. It was perpetrated by those who want us to believe that we are hated for our noble and righteous ways, and to create a wedge between us and those with whom we should find solidarity, rather than an enemy to be fought in perpetuity.

5/16/2008 09:42:00 AM  
Blogger fletcher said...

Thanks for the laugh. Dude you are a joke.
"Classic disinfo above, folks. That's not a dialogue, it's not informative, it's obvious disinfo, and the individual posting it has shown his true colors. He's not a poster to be taken seriously, and it's obvious he has posted under other headings than just Fletcher, yet has the audacity to chide those who are brave enough to remain anonymous. Not surprising, though, coming from people who portend to believe in some God. They're usually, or should I say, always, cowards."
If I were more interested I'd respond. How bout you have the cahones to email me personally if you think i'm such an obvious disinfo spreader. by what basis do you make this claim? i mean can you quantify that with something? anything? And I'd love to hear what makes you think that i need any other monicle than my name, which IS fletcher. get a life you pathetic ass hat.

5/16/2008 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, they've been spraying China recently from what I've read (not verified), but I know for a fact that Africa has been sprayed regularly for a long time now.

There have been astounding, humbling efforts made by one particular German transplant to South Africa named Georg Ritschl, who has managed to reverse drought conditions all over the region and directly counteract chemtrail proliferation using a methodology detailed here (if you're familiar with Reich's research, scroll down to "From Accumulator to Generator" and read on about what Georg has done in South Africa). This same method is being employed by activists all over the planet to reverse chemtrail and cellphone tower pollution, and help mother nature restore balance lost from human activity.

It's really worth looking into, because anybody can do it and it's very DIY... nothing to sell/buy, just make it yourself and spread it around. You don't even need to give remote orgasms to your toddler nieces! (*)

Shrub (and/or whoever the annoying anony is), if you're truly concerned about chemtrails, you should stop scoffing at this and just try it! It's damn easy and can bring lots of rain back into Atlanta's water table just like Ritschl has been doing successfully in Africa for years already. Check it out!

(*) Since I just whacked Drew for being ahead of his time, I'd just like to say that Qi Gong is the real deal, and Master Lin seems like the realest deal among real-deal Qi Gong masters out there. Don't let Drew's academic psychosis destroy the powerful message of raising your vibrational level and healing yourself and your loved ones through the power of love energy. If it's bullshit to you, ask yourself why you won't even try it.

Just like the limey lizard man says, "infinite love is the only truth, and everything else is illusion!"

Like the G&R album says, "Use Your Illusion", to which I'd add "before they use it against you".

Peace out...

5/16/2008 11:51:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Hey Reptor...I think you might be ahead of me as far as seeding but then I did recover 5 romaines out of the weeds I was digging this morning. Makes my day if you know what I mean.

And to the anony Orgonite poster..get stuffed.

Drew..I'm impressed you have responded to two separate comments and not one mention of that formless rabbit with the invisible tattoo of Alice you keep under that waterproof bicycle seat.

So nothing new huh? Was it too scary to contemplate electro- magnetic quaterions to replace your quantum wampum?

5/16/2008 12:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do you like my moniker, boys? If you can't read it, try using your monocle.

5/16/2008 02:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks, Stop Chemtrails. I will try to make some and dump it in Lake Ontario and the Eery Canal. I want to my part to end this blight. If I can't make it, can I pay you a premium price to get some? Does it come with rolling papers? I'm excited. I love you.

5/16/2008 02:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Espresso Expose -- let's see that's in East Stadium Village right by the medical complex. I don't go to that cafe much, still, the reason I stopped doing mainstream progressive activism was PRECISELY because of the these stupid "vanguard" tactics.

So in the Twin Cities we have the "Freedom Road" moaists infiltrating progressive groups as per Lenin's maxim of secret vanguard revolution -- reporting back to their leaders who gave them a little red book and made them swear life-long membership.

These people always try to steer issue-based activism into some sort of vague "power" trip which is all about their little vanguard secret hierarchy.

Then there's the cops and the FBI informants. When I was the Earth First! contact in the journal back in the mid-90s and communicated with Ben Manski and others in Madison, WI I'm sure my phone was tapped. Manski's phone was tapped and he had a FBI informant as a girlfriend when he was out in Eugene. I heard strange clickings and weird sounds when I picked up my phone. I haven't had a phone since 2001 -- although the main reason is that it's not worth $30 a month! haha.

So all these slick "eco" activists with the fucking microwave phones. That's the funniest thing about the above encounter.

Anyway when I was doing hardcore activism at the U of MN my email was sabotaged by the U administration; the phone installer bragged to my house that they routinely install taps (as if just to let us know).

The problem with activism is just the level of stupidity about peoples' obsessions with power.

You want to tell truth to power. You want to just discuss new evidence that is not covered in the mainstream media. But then there's these power hungry goons -- be they the Leninists (or whatever stupid vanguard group) or the FBI or the FBI infilitrated Maoists, etc. They have no critical thinking skills, no ability to prioritize and analyze information.

So then the threats, sabotage and censorhip kick in.

The fact is Mother Nature will take revenge against civilization anyway -- we don't need to do anything! haha.

5/16/2008 02:19:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@TripleG - Dude, I am not easily shocked, but I am truly surprised at your reaction to Vonnegut's work. De gustibus non disputandum, but I still wish you might give at least Sirens of Titan another try.

Or perhaps Mother Night. That's a politically mature and philosophically stunning piece of work, but too somehow grey and shadowed for me to really enjoy.

The other book of his I often suggest to people is Hocus Pocus - it's mainly an exercise dealing with the issues around and motivations for privatization, with the U.S. prison system as the example. It is not only very funny but very cleverly revealing.

Vonnegut was an elite member of our society and possibly more than that (otherwise, he would have likely died younger), and one of the few so endowed both intelligent enough to elude mental and physical censorship and great enough of spirit to do so for worthwhile reasons (like a certain Dr. Geisel).

Vonnegut's work is filled with social and historical information. He delivered unto us not only industrial-strength philosophical work, but excellent and very subtle intelligence about parts of life we peons don't get to see.

A rebel and a genius, in my eyes. I certainly didn't much like his final collection of essays, though. Black dog dragged him down at the end, and who can blame the man?

@Stop Chemtrails - I don't think there's really a 'they' here - just groups of people, sometimes contiguous, sometimes not, using technology packages we've been building for at least fifty years.

Perhaps some meta-level groups have good ideas for using and taking advantage of the tech and those using it - perhaps we are all controlled by Sumerian people-herders.

I do think the puppet shows that make up most of our public political discourse are poor representations of true power on earth, but I must hold out the notion that when we see the planes above, we are looking at nations at war as much as we are looking at the secret plans of the few.

I suspect we've been busy steering clouds around at double-time to trash China's harvest, drive the commodities boom and the Lightbulbist hokery, and keep the chemical-fried, dehydrated, drained Prairies busting out enough crap to give the Eagle Empire a decent edge in the game (that's what NAFTA is for too, sadly for Canada - America's Hat!).

Brazil is the big threat there. They've been making sugarcane gas for a looong time, and a lot of it, and they too have leftover Nazi chemical and mechanical tricks to use. Hell, even some nicked-up factory tooling belonging to that odd historical blip the damn forest clockmakers caused when it was their turn to bear the Imperial standard.

Bet there's some funky side effects to all this weathermaking.

Boy, Vonnegut was good on consequences, too. His brother pretty much freaking invented 'chemtails', dude. Go look it up if you don't believe me.

And read Cat's Cradle. Ice-9 is a lot scarier than reasons invented in the darkness of ignorance for the frilly hunks of cherub crap in your hair.

That said, I expect they use airplanes to spray all kinds drugs, diseases, toxic metals, you name it. But you wouldn't see those ones. You don't need highly visible multi-ton doses of whatever for humans. Only for the Cloud Gods.

Hell, cheaper and easier to put a little weed'n'feed attachment onto your reservoirs and shunts, city fools.

Prozac one day, DeathAde 'Easy Red' and 'Fast Blue' flavours at the school the next. (thanks to the great T.J. Bass for 'Easy Red' - read his stuff if you dare, it's the freakin' reality pill for both conspiriatorialists and blind aspartame-ants).

I bet the Chinese are gearing up for more than just defensive cloudbusting, too. Notice they've decided to enter the jumbo airliner market. Such a nice platform for secret shenanigans, the civilian airliner. Talk about human shields. People poo in their pants every time one of those aging pop-cans drops.

Which tendency is also exploitable, as you have likely noted since that bit of an insurance-fire fiasco in NYC a few years ago. I think you could call that Rockefeller style, that own-goal store-fire moneymaker trick. Standard Oil plays ROUGH.

P.S. 3G, where do you find the time to hit all these damn cafes and shit?

P.P.S. As to calling the residues of whatever delivery packages or sprays or whatever is coming down silly things like Angel Dumps and Frozen Fairy Farts - well, that does border on disinfo-meme status. Why not just try to describe the stuff as best as possible, find other descriptions, make a damn chart of them, and start classifying stuff at ABC-123 level if you want to investigate?

Better than letting some adman invent leading jargon for you. That kind of stuff can blind a researcher.

Off to plant my last four tomatoes before they die,
Lord Reptor.

P.P.P.S. Damn, it's nice out. Whether artificially induced or not.

Px4. S. @3G again - dude, Mother nature doesn't want revenge. She's your mother, fahcryinoutloud. You were made for a reason, and if it doesn't work out and the genotype has to be scrapped and a new set of 'eyes' grown, there will be only sadness and then other eyes shall witness the quickness with which we carry on (apologies to CSNY).

I actually think we're doing fine, and that our silver-quick shining twining self-making children will make our memories proud as they sweep across the planets in a tide of thinking, self-assembling, immortal, ever-changing, Oneness-seeking matter.

But that's just me, a known disciple of Lem.

Lord R.

5/16/2008 04:01:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

Ptothe5S - @anonymouse number thirty-seven and Flecther - I'm not sure, mousie, if Fletcher is the one you accuse of disinformative posting or if you're kind of randomly flailing there or if I've missed your target entirely, but if it was ol' Fletch (draws breath)
you'll notice he was quoting.

Not...that it really matters.

Watching the clouds spoil my sunny afternoon with extreme suspicion,
Lord Reptor.

5/16/2008 04:10:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@Mark - Jared Diamond is a clever one, isn't he? I suspect that, as a pro biologist and also as a man who has very successfully climbed social and professional curves in real life to attain enormous personal success, he is very aware that the 'division bell' doesn't suddenly flatten at the gates to the 'First World' (god, what barbaric splendour we array ourselves in, even academically).

@Diamondsare4Ever - Of course Diamond's work contains the occasional sop to the PTB. Would you wish penury and struggle upon the man?

Some members of the Imperial elites are good enough people, you know. The fact that you couldn't pass at their dinner parties in your hempen tunic and rope shoes, your few teeth bared in a nervous grin - doesn't mean that good men don't.

Another good example of the type is Rory Stewart - very, very much recommend his work, occasional bow to Imperial sensibilities or not.

Hell, the information Diamond publicized about the historical relationships between diet and civilizational type would have been worth his life's blood if there was anyone more than vacant on the thrones local to his life. Where does he live, anyway? A runaway like Clarke? Or does he nest in the likes of Londinium?

Or is that Londra? Hmmm, no, I think that's from Moorcock. Latin class and science fiction have obvoiusly gotten all wet and stuck together down in my long-term storage.

Brain like a stainless steel sieve,
Lord Reptor.

5/16/2008 04:24:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@All anonymice: The bravery of your position astounds me indeed, O mice. Come on out of your hole and let's talk about it, shall we? (uncontrollably extends claws just a trembling millionth of a barely glinting inch).

Seriously, though - I and everyone else here except maybe TripleG (and you just never know with that guy - there could be no Drew Hopster at all, you know, nobody's really checked more than cursorily I am sure) is just as anonymous as you little scurrying grey tasty little morsels are.

It's just possible to call our little created personas on their words. And once established publicly, even a nom-de-plume will not shield your style from easy detection.

Not that most of you little fellows appear to have developed any style. Youll fill out, don't worry. So much tastier then too. Ahem.

Purring with you, not at you,
Lord R.

5/16/2008 04:34:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@Ericswan - I too had a few survivors amongst the grassland that took over my first effort at a veg patch (no photos exist - but it was pathetic, baby, really primitive-agrarian stuff - I was more helping than gardening there) - some mesclun stuff, a few carrots and beets (that grew enormous long white root-whiskers - you suppose they would spread, flower, colonize? I should try it!), etc.

Yeah, it's neat. I know what you mean it making your day. I'm sure I'll grow used to it all if I last much longer out here, but it is totally cool the way the ground will just feed you in exchange for a little lovin' (no, I don't fertilize that way! Disgusting!).

Off to get dirty like a kid in a sandbox (only old, hairy, and ugly),
Lord Reptor.

5/16/2008 04:43:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@Ericswan again - I really like 'quantum wampum' Quantum wampum, quantum wampum, quantum wampumbthfbtt you try saying that fast!

@TripleG - I suggest you look into the i2p project for your comms needs. Serves mine when needed.

Talking through a tranceload of temporary tunnels,
Lord Reptor.

5/16/2008 04:49:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

Ugh. I said 'personas' back there. I meant 'personae'. Am I getting old or something?

And for any of the dear anonymice that didn't get the point in the post where the 'persona problem' polluted my prose,


it's this: I, as Lord Reptor, am just as anonymous as you little fleet-footed creepers on the big bad Web (which is to say not as anonymouse as you might like to thinke).

I, however, don't mind defending things I've said before. Once in a while, I might even admit to a slight error, if just to preserve the ego-integrity of the poor souls my shining countenance doth fall most virtually upon out here. You little peepers are too lazy to even bother, or just ascairt.

You can even go and look up all the frankly hilarious crap that got me banned from the Guardian, if they haven't wiped it all. Their comments boards used to be hilarious, but the grade-school censors they have there now have no finesse at all. The place has really gone to the dogs. Fun going in there full-encrypted and watching their dickhead software probing for location - Google's analytics thingie at least has the sense to give up, but the Grauniad's moron device just ends up thinking I'm from Tennesee, and then Alaska, and then Uruguay et-cetera, ad infinitum till I turn it off.

I suspect them of having a much nastier set of stuff hidden above the obviously porous garbage and obsolete chatware they run, though.

I stay away from there now, after a rather unnerving 'conversation' with someone there which took the form of very selective successive deletions of my own prose (with disturbingly responsive elements to the behaviour) and delivered a fairly simple and rather unpleasant message.

I stay off there now. That's someone's cattleyard, not a place for stray doggies like me to run. Still, I encourage anonymice to go and play there. They might hire you.

Lord Reptor.

5/16/2008 05:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, of course, I forgot... thanks ericswan for reminding me: Folks, use zeolite in your garden, your chemical dump, or anywhere you need to soak shit up into natural nanosponges. It's the bomb.

Swan, if you'd just try a little orgonite on one side of your garden, I'm certain you'd see the merit within a few weeks of growth of using it right alongside your zeolite. It makes things grow bigger faster and require less water. It worked on my houseplants and everybody's gardens who tries it. Wait for it to fully cure first, though. It *is* resin-based, after all.

Add a coiled crystal and a copper pipe to an ordinary chunk of orgonite, and you have yourself a passive energy "device" that punches blue holes right through chemtrail clouds. STUFF IT in the ground for added effect.

Why the hostility?

5/16/2008 06:12:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...


"@Mark - Jared Diamond is a clever one, isn't he? I suspect that, as a pro biologist and also as a man who has very successfully climbed social and professional curves in real life to attain enormous personal success, he is very aware that the 'division bell' doesn't suddenly flatten at the gates to the 'First World'..."

Yes, it probably flattens out nicely at the Gates of Beverly Hills (the little enclave 'community' where I think Diamond lives studiously oblivious to being surrounded by the slums of Third World L.A.?:

"Ambitious in both style and substance, Rieff's second major book on a US metropolis (Going to Miami, 1987) attempts to resolve the contradictions of L.A. by proclaiming it the Third World's capital. It's a hard sell [when written in 1992, though very different now I think...], but Rieff does create a memorable sermon on the myopia afflicting the middle and upper classes in southern California, who seem desperately unaware of their city's decline. This is a book about gardeners, real estate, and cars: in other words, about immigration, diminishing expectations, and social and cultural gridlock. The author, a full-blown intellectual of the New York-Paris axis, has his cosmopolitan way with that most rigorous and decadent of places. He seems to mean his book to be both serious and droll, as well as a stylistic tour de force, and he comes close on all three aims. But this is also an exercise in aggravation. There's Rieff's overdependence on his ``good friend Allegra,'' a BMW-driving Everywoman, plus his unfortunate penchant of condescending to the Third World help (``...when the conversation turned, as it did so often in bourgeois America in 1989 and 1990, to the collapse of the Soviet empire, I would slip into the kitchen and talk to the maid...[where] the Rosa or question would tell me stories about home''). Lapsing into a faux-L.A. tone, at times the author achieves the very banality he seeks to parody. Another flaw is an indistinct focus-- he makes sweeping statements about the City of Los Angeles (where ``most whites had long ago abandoned the public schools'') that simply aren't true of the much larger Los Angeles County. Yet there's much to be grateful for as well: an ambitious prose style, a thorough historical buildup that does justice to L.A.'s elusive yet crucial spirit, and a knack for the telling statistic or detail. A big book that justifies the attention Rieff has drawn, without quite earning the laurels predicted of him.:


the City of Quartz:

No metropolis has been more loved or more hated. To its official boosters, "Los Angeles brings it all together." To detractors, LA is a sunlit mortuary where "you can rot without feeling it." To Mike Davis, the author of this fiercely elegant and wide-ranging work of social history, Los Angeles is both utopia and dystopia, a place where the last Joshua trees are being plowed under to make room for model communities in the desert, where the rich have hired their own police to fend off street gangs, as well as armed Beirut militias. In City of Quartz, Davis reconstructs LA's shadow history and dissects its ethereal economy. He tells us who has the power and how they hold on to it. He gives us a city of Dickensian extremes, Pynchonesque conspiracies, and a desperation straight out of Nathaniel West—a city in which we may glimpse our own future mirrored with terrifying clarity.

In this new edition, Davis provides a dazzling update on the city's current status.


Los Angeles 'is a Third World city'
by amyjudd | April 25, 2008 at 01:10 pm | 742 views | 15 comments

"Los Angeles is on its way to becoming a 'third world city' with immigrants making up half of its workforce, says a new study by the Migration Policy Institute released today.

Of all immigrants in LA, a third have not graduated high school, and 60 per cent do not speak English fluently. [No great crime, though it's the social and cultural divisions and lack of access that is the issue.]

It said this left immigrants ill-equipped to fill California's fastest-growing occupations, such as computer software engineering and nursing.

The organisation added that as the so-called baby boomers reach retirement age, a similar pattern will spread across the US.

Ernesto Cortes Jr, of the Industrial Areas Foundation, a think-tank that specialises on social change, claimed Los Angeles was at a crossroads.

"The question is are we going to be a 21st century city with shared prosperity, or a Third World city with an elite group on top and most on near poverty wages?" he said.


If you made it this far, watch this 20 minute video:


TED | Talks | Robert Neuwirth: The "shadow cities" of the future (video)

One of the most profound trends of our time is the mass migration of the world's population into urban areas. As of 2005, close to 70 million people were migrating to cities each year, resulting in a billion squatters (one in six people on Earth live as squatters). [by 2030, perhaps half of the world will live in squatter towns on the edges of 'official cities'--without rights.] A troubling trend? Perhaps not, argues author Robert Neuwirth [to the elite TED audience who don't like to hear sad stories about how they are the cherry on top of a world of destruction and falling expectations that they are creating.]

With half the world in 2006 being called 'urban' for the first time in human history, the drive toward a world of "a thousand divisive L.A.'s" could be arrested with some of Neuwirth's ideas...]

5/16/2008 08:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's your fucking point, Mark? Should we direct all of the non-english speaking immigrants to your blog so they can learn first hand how to create and participate in regional ecological democracy? Or, should we send them to Lord Robitussin's plot in BC for training in Organic Gardening and the Art of Babbling about books read that will do him no good when the reaper comes a callin?

Your solution, if it can be called that, isn't going to work for the dire situation you have been describing. But, of course, you know that, don't you Mark? And so too does the pompous and deceitful Lord Rump Roast who should not be trusted in any way, shape, or form. He's an imposter, folks, I promise you. If he was truly teetering on the brink of survival, he wouldn't be nearly as cocksure as he appears to be.

5/16/2008 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is from an old blog called Omni Brain - posted in 2006:

I'm sure some of you saw this story over at mindhacks, and I'm sure many of you also know I just attended the summer institute for cognitive neuroscience in which the first week was devoted to Neural Prosthetics. One of the talks by Beata Jarosiewicz covered a very interesting and pertinent topic. There is a system which has met with some astounding (if not very limited- I'll get into that more later) success. The vOICe system (haha.. get it... "ohh I see!"..ohh geez) creates complex sounds based on what the video system sees.

From Beata's presentation:

Left and Right Image is scanned left to right, one snapshot per second. So left and right get encoded by time (and stereo). Dark and Light Brightness is encoded by loudness: the brighter the visual pattern, the louder the sound. Up and Down Elevation is encoded by pitch: the higher the position of the visual pattern, the higher the pitch.

These sounds which impart all sorts of information are very very obnoxious (well at least to me). This is one of the potential problems with blind people using this system. Many blind people have come to depend on having a good sense of hearing to navigate through the world and if that's taken up with the vOICe system then you could imagine a number of people not liking it. Here is a video of the vOICe system in action - you can see what the system is "looking" at and the sounds it makes in response to the various environmental stimuli.

Besides the obvious drawbacks of the system it has met with some astounding success.
From Beata:

2000: “Well the other day I was again washing dishes. I had let the water out of the sink and turn to get a towel to dry my hands. Then when I turn back to rinse the sink I was stunned to see the sink in a “depth” like image. I stepped away from the sink and walked slowly up to it again to see if my mind was playing tricks on me. No, the feeling of seeing depth in the sink bowl was still there.”ound?.... No, It is by far more, it is sight! There IS true light perception generated by the vOICe. When I am not wearing the vOICe the light I perceive from a small slit in my left eye is a grey fog. When wearing the vOICe the image is light with all the little greys and blacks. Yet a definite light image.”

2002: “Just sound?.... No, It is by far more, it is sight! There IS true light perception generated by the vOICe. When I am not wearing the vOICe the light I perceive from a small slit in my left eye is a grey fog. When wearing the vOICe the image is light with all the little greys and blacks. Yet a definite light image.”
- Pat Fletcher, long-term vOICe user

This brings up all sorts of interesting questions about cortical reorganization and consciousness. But that's for another time and place.

posted by Steve at 7/19/2006 10:21:00 AM

5/16/2008 10:02:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@Nonny Nonny No - Lrd Robitussin? Awesome! Let the Tussin do the healin'!

Cocksure, I dunno. The other way around, yep, I'm pretty sure of my not-so-little friend. In fact, sucker's undeniable. Can't hide it, wouldn't try. Spandex are a REAL man's best friend. Bet you wearin' those loose pants like all the kidz, eh? Somefin' ta hide.

What, um, am I supposed to be impostering as, O Mr. Nobody? Or is that impostering from? Not too sure on that.

I bet all those books will too do me some good when the Reefer comes a callin'. Gotta have something to read in the hellish prison of eternity, and there's no place for luggage on that train which shall come-'a-callin' for us all. At least I'll have some good stuff memorized.

They're certainly doing me good in the here and now. Maybe you oughta try reading something other than the Interwebs sometime, squeaker.

Me pompous and deceitful? Nah, you're just a dick. Can't see past the end of your own nose. Jeez, if you think I'm unlikely, you should meet my family.

@Stop Chemtrails - Just what is this orgonium stuff? I bet it's not as good as my nasty black muzzafuzza compost of Doom.

And back to the spluttering and evidently hung-up Anonymizer - dude, it's people like Mark and their boring, complex, ever-shifting, never-complete ideas that actually SOLVE the big problems, like water delivery and garbage disposal and just how many acres of land per erg of human calorie requirement are going to get us through this mess.

You, little buddy, probably throw your compost in the garbage and drink dozens of little cans of Red Bull to make up for your lack of natural drive.

Yo' mama,
Lord Reptor.

P.S. The tone you detect as 'cocksure' is actually called 'being a grown-up'.

More specifically, in my case it's called 'being a man'.

In the sense of them having dropped, kiddo.

Do pick a nick, candlewick dick,
Lord Reptor.

5/16/2008 10:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Professor Wagner: I was just talking to Ryan who works at the Bookhouse in Dinkytown. I was telling him about Wayne Madsen's book on Rwanda and how Madsen was supposed to testify at a UN Human Rights Investigation but he received a death threat stating he would not make it to the airport. Madsen lives in D.C. and has books published at His focus was on the CIA's role in creating the Rwandan genocide.

Are you familiar with Madsen's work and what's your take on it if you care to comment? Thanks.

Ryan said that you had indeed been shot in the head for this same type of testimony. I'm surprised that it doesn't seem to be in the media but maybe you want discretion and I apologise for any intrusion. Anyway he described you as being very optimistic. I studied with Professor Rose Brewer in a couple classes, the second as a self-directed study in nonwestern philosophy, practicing traditional healing under a Chinese qigong master -- This was based on the book "The Racial Contract."

Anyway that was around 2000 and before 9-11, so things were different back then! Maybe you know Dr. John E. Peck at Madison? I spent a lot of time with him there doing activism when I did my undergrad and he was doing a lot of African studies work for his Ph.D. He's now at

I did a lot of activism at the U of MN when I got my M.A. in Liberal Studies and I now work at Clean Water Action while also reading about a book a day, plus sitting in full-lotus as much as possible.

All the best,

drew hempel,

5/16/2008 10:57:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Lord Reptor 4:01 PM was some fine prose.

The big white sprayers have been out since dawn all fully docked but so far, the sky is mostly normal here in south central B.C. Apparently, whatever the cocktail is, it won't hit the ground until tomorrow morning. I would appreciate Mr. Orgonite's solution to the millions of tons of heavy metal that drift into our water, air, soil and food supply. Do you really think ORGONITE is effective against the dozens of chemtrail sprayers I've photographed since dawn of May 16, 2008?

5/16/2008 11:39:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@TripleG - Dude, if you want clear evidence of the kind of capabilities you are talking about, there has been more than just the one study done.

The television program 'Nova', back in the eighties, had a show on a system that used pressure points on the back to reproduce a headcam's image for the subject, blind since birth. They quickly learned to 'see' using this unlikely setup (dozens of little rounded pushrods - jeez what a Rube Goldberg thing, eh?).

I've also seen (TV again - can't remember what show) a realization of Frederik Pohl's brilliant system for sighted people who have lost their sight (read: The Greening Of Bed-Stuy, Mark you would like that book - it's in his awesome collection of NYC stories) - basically a radar/sonar combo scanner in a third-eye position mount feeds data straight to the base of an optic nerve on one side of the brain. Apparently, it works, but is rudely expensive.

Long story short, nothing new under the sun. Including your Two...Year...Old...Post that Somebody...Else...Wrote.

Really, dude, if you have mastered an idea that somebody else had, it's O.K. to just paraphrase it, mention their name and how much you admire/hate/are neutral towards/otherwise find relevant/irrelevant/other their work, and even throw some of your own (generally a bit difficult) stuff onto it like a sauce or a mound of dirt.

Oh, and back to our nameless mousie - teetering on the brink I'm not, as my safety net is holding for now, but I'm not too happy to have a present tighter than a frozen dead goat cunny and a future of total and unfamiliar uncertainty.

I just don't constantly cry and pee little fear-dribbles when I got troubles.

The only time I ever went without food regularly was a very bad time in my twenties, nonnymouse, when my pay did not cover the expenses of myself and my recently-arrived and dependent partner (more than a year before she found work, and four more before she got strong and left me).

Going without adequate food for an extended period is bad for you. I got enough infections and strain injuries at that time to make permanent changes in my health.

I don't even go without shelter these days.

Experience gives you the ability to organize yourself and depend upon yourself in a crisis - if you take challenges and succeed, instead of bailing and fleeing.

You also must understand that all of this is very much harder when you are alone. During the bad times in my life (which were fun as shit anyway), I stood pretty much on my own, aside from a few peers and a couple of close friends.

Nowadays, I'm back in touch with my family to a certain degree (two nephews and a niece and I haven't even met one of them yet!). My personal life is stable. I live in a place with a very low cost of living, and a very nice environment (if you can 'make your bones' and fit in with the rather old-fashioned community here).

If you're in a life place where you have nobody and the challenges are looking federally lame, nonnymouse, I sympathize with your anger and piss-coloured glasses. Been there, done that, lucky I didn't get crippled by someone even angrier in a bar fight.

Right now, for the first time in my life, I've lost the surety of my body's strength as a part of my survival plan. I'm finding it possible to begin to replace that surety with part-measures of various kinds.

As a bonus, getting out of the workplace has been so positive for me mentally that I am quite sure I would choose to live outdoors before I went back to a job like the ones that filled my life before.

Even if I lose my marvellous little wooden ship of a home, nonnymouse (and I don't...think I will, as long as I don't spend anything I shouldn't spend and keep on making bits of cash here and there), I'll have the same attitude I had before. The one you don't like.

It's not because I'm not afraid, nonnymouse. Hell, I spent months after the surgery railing in anger and weeping in pain and fear. I didn't think I'd be able to do my job anymore, and I've always worked to sustain myself.

Work was always the only thing that made me able to have self-respect, to feel safe in my (always rented, until now) home.

I was right. I can't do my job anymore. I'm not qualified for anything else professionally, either. I've had lots of college and university courses, but no degrees or certificates, and much of it too old to even count as brownie points on a resume.

It's a problem. But it could be worse. I've been lucky, and my family even threw me some cash (not a trust fund, nonny - a few thousand bucks, almost all well spent believe you me).

Other people help. I get driven to Costco (in the nice little grey car snouting into my tulip photo in my last post) by the librarian of my life, and there I ascertain food security for a several-month period, even at the cost of using the foully dangerous credit card.

Then I pay that back.

Sometimes that means no wood and mean letters from those jerks at the utility/student loan collector (it's so much smaller now, and the schoolin' topup was worth it)/tax people/etc.

Whatever. As long as they don't come here.

So, again, if you're 'down in it', I appreciate your stupid vitriol. I once threatened to toss a co-worker through a wall because I thought he was playing social one-upsmanship with me at a warehouse job. Later I realized I could have been arrested just for what I said to him. Whups.

That's what it is to be "so full of fear you can't function at all" (ah God we miss John Lennon's voice so, even still).

The guy did stop messing with me, though. I had no more problems at that job. Good thing he wasn't itching to test his Secret Deathcausing Bellypoke or stab me in an alley afterwards. Anger makes you make mistakes.

Anyway, little mouse - what about it? Dast thou choose a name? I quite like Mouse. Your choice though, I'm sure.

Maybe you'd even like to tell us a little bit about yourself.

And do grow up.

Wearing upside-down glasses for so long everything looks right-side-up,
Lord Reptor.

5/16/2008 11:40:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@3G - Who is Prof. Wagner? Did I miss something?

@Ericswan - awww, shucks. (blushes).

What is this orgonite? I love the song 'Orgone Accelerator' I finally on the trail here?

I have itching scratches all over my arms and I'm going to the tub. I hauled a large juniper out of the ground today (room for more tomatoes) in long, slow stages (and violent cursing jerking snarling sweat-mud-eating times), and it fought.

I hope it lives. I put it in the horrid and ill-advised 'sand garden' the previous owners dolled the rubble-strewn front yard up with. I don't know if it's cat piss or coon piss or dog piss or drunken child piss (I've seen them, I swear it!) I smell like, but it ain't nice atall.

Sand garden. Giant freakin litterbox with a monkey-puzzle tree in it.

Ooh. I really do smell. Yuck.

Lord Reptor.

5/16/2008 11:50:00 PM  
Blogger Dr. Bombay said...

Thank you Mark,
Don't mind if I do...
I'll pour. Straight up or on the

5/17/2008 04:40:00 AM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@Ericswan again - I'm not too clear on what the big white sprayers are (planes?) and what you mean by docked...well, and the rest of it is unclear for me as well.

I'm not much up on the jargon is what I'm guessing. Can you laymanize your post a bit for me?

Wooow- the computer just threw on Jimi's Thursday Morning from the Multicoloured Blues disc. Oh it's so lovely.

I do think pollution with certain reactive (soft) metals has been very much SOP for our culture since the early days - the practice likely dates way the heck back.

I can just imagine the mercury-and-lead blasted members of some ancient priesthood, falling for some precursor to the stuff alluded to/satirized/enshrined in the Wizard of Oz books (L. Frank was a straaaange man, man).

Anyway, I would appreciate a dumbed-down version. You seem to live in the same general geographic zone as me, so if there are fleets of freak-ships flying here, I'd like to know more. Should I be more than ordinarily horrified? Keep the cat in?

Well, it's kinda too late on that anyway - I'm going out to play in the muck and see if my juniper lived. And dig up another one to sacrifice in the stupid sand garden - I know, let's make a decorative garden out of sand and landscape cloth! On a slope! In an animal-packed neighbourhood! What a selling feature. I would have liked the rocks underneath it more.

Into heavy metal but not heavy metals,
Lord Reptor.

5/17/2008 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi: I read Tony Wright's article at the Graham Hancock website and returned to it after perusing this site, since the book description for "Left in the Dark" is amazingly opaque. I discovered the book at We're told that some great mystery will be solved and that it has to do with hormones and the brain -- that's it! haha. I'm also aware of Wright's amazing no sleep experiment.

Still this research (and I just ordered the book) is from a Western perspective. I encourage Tony Wright to come to Minnesota, U.S.A. and take classes from qigong master Chunyi Lin, teacher of

Qigong master Chunyi Lin went 40 days with no sleep, no food and no water! He sat in a cave in the mountains in China. He was in full-lotus the whole time, the yoga position with the feet on the thighs.

Now qigong master Chunyi Lin fasts one day a week and then just eats a small meal of veggies once a day the rest of the week. His training and abilities and lifestyle are pretty much the same as the amazing biography of another qigong master, a book called "Opening the Dragon Gate," about master Wang, Liping.

So as long as we focus on the West we are missing a lot of important research. I do think that a fruit diet is very important but my own research has focused on the centrality of sound perception in the forest (versus visual perception). Qigong and yoga and Bushmen healing (which is the same as the other two) are all based on listening to nonwestern sound to create ionized resonance of energy.

Diet is, of course, crucial. For example I sit in full-lotus all the time and I went for 8 days on just half a glass of water back in 2000. I was never hungry, my energy increased and I even created strong electromagnetic fields that enabled telepathy and telekinesis and healing energy. I saw dead spirits coming to hear qigong master Chunyi Lin while he was giving a "chi-emitting lecture."

Sitting in full-lotus is not a hallucination! It creates free energy from the principle of natural resonance. An easier practice based on the same principle is called the "small universe" -- the 12 notes of the music scale, only applied to the body, to create a harmonic oscillator of free energy.

So I've been encouraging people to practice the small universe and the best book on it is called "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" by Charles Luk.

So after I did my 8 day "energy feast" -- called "bigu" in Chinese -- when strong electromagnetic fields fill your stomach, causing no need for food, then my return to normal eating has never been the same. I continue to sit in full-lotus all the time but the vagus nerve on the right side of my neck transduces the anerobic bacteria of my lower body (along with the serotonin). So if I eat a "normal" diet -- sugar, meat, grains, etc. -- then the increase in bacteria goes to my brain! I then have to clean out my system so to speak which I do through the pineal gland transducing the electrochemical energy into light. This is why yogins are supposed to be vegetarian.

Anyway I look forward to the book and I have a free blogbook online, Plus my masters thesis (2001) is linked at

5/17/2008 12:08:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@TripleG - I just opened my Dragon Gate now - had to rush inside before the dragons escaped.

I then gave a chi-emitting lecture in wordless, stentorian tones.

I can see why yogins are supposed to be vegetarian. I'll refer you to this link:

for more details on that.

Feeling like Johnny Cash,
Lord Reptor.

5/17/2008 12:41:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@3G again - dude, if Super Chun King went without water for 40 days, then you should check him for a pulse. That ten-year full-lotus marathon and vow of silence might be more than it appears...

Very, very slight possibility Master Log Champa is stretching the invisible orifice of the truth a bit there.

Fasting's fine for some people - I worked with a Sri Lankan guy who did regular 6-day juice fasts and a yearly true fast of some slightly longer duration. He said after the first few days you regain your energy.

I've gone hungry for a few days in a row, no juice neither, before, and you do stop feeling hungry.

But you can't power off heavy labour in that condition without running into serious physiological problems. The Sri Lankan guy may have regained his energy, but he never had much to start with.

He's the guy you set to making salad mix in the corner, or to setting up nicely cut fruit trays for the morrow. No good on the line, no good for receiving, no good for heavy cleaning (great for doing the range hoods - he was so meticulous about it, and it's a miserable task) - not enough horsepower.

The perfect contrast was Tring the boat-person, who I worked with at a book bindery for a while. He weighed all of a hundred pounds, had about 0.5% body fat (seriously, he was like the nonfat milk of skinny), and he hauled the same loads as I did, more often and faster, learned every machine faster than anyone, put in more hours than anyone, and was the go-to guy when things went wrong despite his total lack of English.

You could feel heat on the side of your cheek if he was working beside you at a bench.

He ate any damn protein he could get his hands on. That's the diet for survival - the one that keeps you as strong as you can be. If that guy fasted, he'd disappear.

One of my few surviving uncles, who was in Korea (explosives engineer, tank mechanic, sniper target, unwitting imperial enforcer), recognized the type right away while getting plastered at breakfast with me (he always brings 'a few' bottles of his wine to brekkie).

He said: "I got off the plane and I looked over at a truck that was loading oil. These little skinny guys, guys who lived on a fish head and a handful of rice a day, were grabbing up hundred-gallon barrels and rolling them edge-on up a plank into the back of the truck. Solo. I couldn't even move a barrel like that. I looked over at my buddy and I said, 'I don't wanna fight these guys.'"

And yeah, whatever points your guru may have going for him, I think he might be a bit of a fish-tale specialist. Doesn't mean there isn't widom there (hell, my Dad's into that cha-boing stuff, even takes a course).

I'll stick to Musashi for my favourite life tactic. Do whatever it is as hard as you can, master it, then hit the changes.

It fits right in with the old Hindu view on the life of a man - twenty years a youth, twenty years a warrior, and twenty years as head of a household.

Then, should he still have breath in him, a man is free to walk the world, learning and teaching, as a wise man.

Just a few more years to go. Hopefully separate household credits are cumulative in this program.

Looking forward to becoming the Wise Lord Reptor (it's automatic, right?),
Lord Reptor.

5/17/2008 01:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the information, Drew, and thanks for not letting these girly-men get to you. You are thr real man here, and they no that, and fear you. Allah be with you.

5/17/2008 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK a little clarification here. First of all "bigu" means you're NOT hungry -- never. You're full of electromagnetic fields. Secondly, amazing, this creates some sort of "reverse electrolysis" in the brain and water flows from the pineal gland down through the roof of the mouth. This is called the "ambrosia" or sweet nectar or some such.

On "bigu" chemistry professor Rustom Roy held an academic conference and there's a peer-reviewed journal article in some medical journal about a female on "bigu" -- she went months with no food and never lost weight nor nutrition.

Obviously this is based on a specific practice -- not just fasting -- it relies on what I call the "natural resonance revolution" -- nonwestern harmonics applied to the body-mind for spirit travel.

5/17/2008 02:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now Pero PMs me stating I should "maybe" erase Joeblast PMing me since it's "private."

Look -- we have something called the FIRST AMENDMENT in the United States. If something is on google then it's not David Verdesi's private video -- unless he can sue for copyright infringement or something.

The same with "private" emails.

Nothing on the internet is private -- it's a centralized network, first created by the military and currently supervised by the National Security Agency, etc.

If someone emails me just like if they send me a snail mail -- that's my own property to do with what I will.

Obviously if they tell me it's private then they're expressing their wish for it to be private and this would infringe upon any future business arrangements based on competitiveness. This is why there's so much espionage in business and why the CIA was CREATED BY WALL STREET.

I'm against money personally. Nothing is private to consciousness.

So let's just get over the hang ups.

Body parts -- well males need to cover their "private" parts because otherwise chicks would see them getting hard-ons too easily in pubic! haha.

Isn't that what this is all about -- how to control your privacy?


Only Mother Nature is in control -- nothing else is private.

5/17/2008 03:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, yo, Ghoul. I'm the Big U, bro. Forget that fuckin fastin shit. Don't make me cap ur ass.

5/17/2008 03:13:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@TripleG - Geez, and here I thought Bigu was an interminable web comic. Guess it's full of hidden meaning, then. I got tired after a few strips and went sleepybye.

Geez, TripleG, if you're still experiencing sexual arousal that you can't control in public - not 'in pubic', typo-man (geez what are you twelve?), I suggest you whack that daddy till it lies down.

That is, if it's possible to operate your tackle any more frequently than you already do.

Maybe you should see if you can achieve the Lotus Swallowing Itself...I hear you can really conserve the body's water in that position, using the Circular Fountain of Golden Bliss and the Bobbing Crane Of Gleeful Swallowing.

Secret secretions. Jesus, Ghoulie, if you're really so far gone as to dislike money, send me all of yours.

Oh, and by the way - who are you conversing with? I can't figure it out.

Maybe you should eat something. You're getting the twenty-first century equivalent of spirit voices - friggin invisible ghosts are talking to you on the internet.

Some Bigu-chicku went months without food and lost neither 'weight nor nutrition'? Musta been Electric Barbarella you talkin' about. Seriously, man - nobody is going to fall for that line. You KNOW she eatin' on the side, bub.

Bloodied by berry brambles and belligerently biased toward bigus to the point of bigutry,
Lord Reptor.

Wait a minute. Aren't bigus some kind of sausage-and-cabbage muck? Oh, no, that's bigos. Well, at least it'll fill your belly, unlike electrical fields (less you swallow a lantern battery - give it a shot, G, let me know what you discover, man).

Hungry again here in Samsara where I decided to stay,
Lord Reptor.

5/17/2008 04:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Their report gives background to human rights violations in China, in particular the persecution of Falun Gong, including the campaign to incite public hatred toward the group, and the widespread torture of practitioners in custody.

Kilgour and Matas state that one of the “most disturbing” moments in researching the report was the discovery of a massive population of imprisoned Falun gong practitioners who remained unidentified. Falun Gong prisoners of conscience may refuse to give their names for fear of repercussions for their families. In these cases, no one outside the prison system knows their whereabouts. They state that there is a significant lack of representation among freed Falun Gong practitioners, from those who failed to self identify while they were imprisoned—these 'disappearances', the authors contend, are ready candidates for live organ harvesting.[16]

5/17/2008 04:52:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@TripleG, who is posting randomly at this stage methinks - perhaps it's like Franciscan posting prayers in the personals as though there was a point to such petty perturbations of the Perfect.

As to chopping up Falun Gong whack jobs for their innards - well, why not?

Organlegging's damn profitable, and let's face it, those guys are somewhat less than useful in the grand scheme. Regard the process as a filter for the species, a bit of a running eugenic comb : those that will not be missed even among the ranks of the Falun Gong are first on the menu for the rest of us.

Seriously, man, if a person is foolhardy enough to get hooked up with such a tearingly obvious intelligence front, they are LOOKING for the Kool-Aid.

Those who get caught up in that kind of crap through sheer stupidy or lack of experience, I pity roundly. But I think they're probably few and far between. Most of us have the brains to stay out of cult-style work farms, especially the sick ones that end up being political.

You end up in that kind of stuff, you most likely are looking for trouble to start with.

Hell, I may need an organ one day myself. I hope I can have my own, custom ones, though.

Dreaming of hydraulic bicycle-riding legs for my 137th birthday,
Lord Reptor.

P.S. Ghoul, dude, I guess I better give it up. You may not even be posting on this board in your own mind (waves fingers tantalizingly in front of G's staring eyes).

Besides, I really should be doing more useful things than sitting in front of a computer reading boring, frightening news and listening to music. I think it's time for some hot Ayurvedic drink-stuff (picked it up in Richmond - a paste based on gooseberries and not bad at all).

I got out the porch furniture. It's like heading for 30 celsius outside. I've done as much physical work today as I actually can, and I am going to:

A. Sip.
B. Smoke.
C. Trip on Zelazny (reading Lord of Light again - yeaaaahhhh baby).
D. Contemplate my fiefdom.

Later, all. Hope Jeff posts soon. Curious to know what strangely connected moire of weirdness he might bring to us.

Too lazy to think of a good signoff,
Lord Reptor.

5/17/2008 05:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll check out Lord of Light but am guessing it's crap. Also don't eat TOO much fruit. I'm trying this "Left in the Dark" diet and have been a bit too regular if you know what I mean.

5/17/2008 05:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep, just as I expected: Another Kool-Aid novel (predictable, boring plot) turned into a bad film as real life: CIA mind control (WIKI follows)

Parts of the unmade film project, the script and Kirby's set designs, were subsequently acquired by the CIA as cover for an exfiltration team posing as Hollywood location scouts in Tehran in order to rescue six US diplomatic staff who escaped the Iranian hostage crisis by virtue of being outside the Embassy building at the time.[1][2]

5/17/2008 05:53:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

@ TripleG - If you're reviewing the masterful, understated, deeply advanced Zelazny masterwork mentioned before (Lord Of Light), I am amazed:

A. At the speed with which you popped out, found a copy, read it, thought it over, and got back here. I mean, minutes, dude (all I've had time to do is start my bath running and drink my hot drink, man).

B. How very, very much background you're going to need before you can read and understand good science fiction.

C. The fact that anyone would try making that sucker into a movie. The only reason I can think of is the same one that appears to apply to Phil Dick's work on the silver screen - somebody wants to destroy it for sociopolitical or personal reasons. You could not make that book into a movie successfully. The only director who could even try would be Lynch. And he's not good enough.

Boy, have you ever seen the original 4-hour cut of Dune? The one that ass fissure DeLaurentis didn't ruin with a frigging bubble scene at the end? The one with all that tasty...Giger...stufff....

Anyone knows where to get a copy of that boy, tell me. I haven't seen it since the late 80's when I caught it on a buddy's sat up in Pemberton, whacked outta my doodle.

Man, G, I can't believe you'd dis Zelazny. That's just plain wrong. Some enlightened master of Light and Harmony you are. Tell me (I have asked before) - what do you consider prime sci-fi? The good stuff? What's worth reading?

From your nick, I am guessing Heinlein, who is worth reading for sure but just as much of a selfish little fascist (and who isn't) as the often great Niven (who came up with the term organlegging, in fact).

The story I remember your nick emanating from was called, I think, The Rolling Stones or some such (this is stuff written when Mick Jagger was going poopy in his pants while perfectly sober). Awesome story. Really really awesome.

But yeah - so what is good sci-fi to you Sir G To The Three? Or good entertainment reading in general - other than any Celestine Prophecy or Internal Sunrise type stuff that you read professionally, that is. I mean like novels, short stories, poetry, etc. Curious.

Appalled by the increasing frequency with which I seem to be getting into the bath while talking to whatever alien conqueror operates the obvious alien stooge Ghoulie (the name gives it away, aliens can't lie worth a dern),
Lord Reptor.

5/17/2008 06:27:00 PM  
Blogger Peter Greene said...

P.S. G-3, I have been just loving the fruit lately. Like an uncontrollable craving.

I love the results, too. I could spend ten thousand years in the john quite happily. The simplest things in life are best.

Mmm. Fruit and burgers. The perfect diet.

Dinner figured out,
Lord Reptor.

5/17/2008 06:31:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Vibnu wrote...

"What's a "dead ender"? That sounds derisive and dismissive, so please explain if it's not meant to be."

I mean no offense to you personally. I was referring to either victims of state entrapment programs or dim folk that become patsies used for the corrupt designs of others. You may well be a fine and earnest person, but I do not know that and an apparent incitement to violence is no way to introduce yourself.

May the grace of God go with you

Shrub said...
.....yet has the audacity to chide those who are brave enough to remain anonymous.

Hehehe,haha ha gaffau, you gotta love shrubs parody of rationality.

5/17/2008 07:40:00 PM  

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