Monday, January 28, 2008

Empire on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown II

People are crazy and times are strange - Bob Dylan

[Not done yet; I'll try to wrap it up tonight.]

Times Are Strange

Crazy people see things. Most everyone who's not crazy knows that. You'll likely remember than when it's your turn to see something, and be circumspect about to whom you tell it.

People have been seeing things in America since it was known by other names and hosted other nations. In the early 15th Century, in present-day New Mexico, Arizona and Texas, the first wave of Spain's explorer-conquerors were reportedly astonished to find indigenous people with apparent preemptive knowledge of Roman Catholicism, who had even crafted their own crosses and rosaries. The Europeans were told that a pale figure known locally as the "Blue Lady," had appeared to them many times in recent years, floating above the ground in an azure haze, preaching a foreign faith in their own language. When friars carried the story back to Spain in 1635 it was received with interest by the Inquisition, which was just then trying an abbess named Maria de Jesus Agreda.

About a dozen years earlier, after having put on on the blue habit of the Franciscan order, Maria Agreda had begun experiencing ecstatic visions and "raptures," and told her cloistered sisters tales of her more than 500 out-of-body travels to a distant land where she preached to "savages." She eventually wrote a book detailing her spiritual journeys, and she soon came to the attention of the heresy-hunting Inquisition. The story of the "Blue Lady," and the rapidity with which the Spanish were able to pacify and baptize the inhabitants of the lands she had visited, earned Sister Maria both an acquittal and a place in the court of King Philip. Regardless of the century, secular power always stands ready to recruit magicians, miracle workers and devils to its side.

Maria Agreda's etheric adventures and xenoglossia were understood by both the native North Americans and Spanish Catholics as religious events (the only question for the Inquisition was whether they were divine or infernal). Four hundred years later, what once could be called only either miraculous or fraudulent may be regarded as perhaps another category of the merely human.

Similar to Maria Agreda's recruitment by King Philip and John Dee by Queen Elizabeth, Robert Monroe's astral navigations were weaponized by the Pentagon, which schooled itself in his Virginia institute for bilocation. In Journeys Out of the Body, he writes of "raising himself out of the physical" and whoring about on the astral plane, eventually having "sex" - a "giddy electrical-type shock" - with with a female friend who, the next week, volunteered the information that she had had an erotic dream about Monroe the same night, in which he had given her "a detailed physical examination." In 16th Century Spain Monroe would have been called an incubus, and he would have been burned alive.

Robert Bruce describes witnessing his nephew Matt's first real-time OBE in his book Astral Dynamics, during a two-week visit coaching the boy on projection.

A few days before he was due to leave, while meditating late at night, I clearly saw Matt's projected real-time double float through the wall and come into the room I was sitting in. He waved cheerfully at me and I slowly waved back at him, without breaking my entranced state - no mean feat in itself - immensely pleased that Matt had finally managed to get out of his body. Matt floated about the room, seemingly having some difficulty with movement and directional control, but apparently thoroughly enjoying himself. He soon floated out of my sight and that was the last I saw of him that night.

Bruce writes that the next morning, Matt "vividly remembered" floating through the wall, seeing his uncle sitting below and the two waving at each other. And if we can believe his account, the fact that Bruce himself was in an altered state would have heightened his receptivity to seeing things, which makes me wonder whether the "Blue Lady" first manifested herself among entranced shamans.

Which returns me to America's ongoing manic episode. Which is the greater crazy: to see things, or to pretend that you don't?


Anonymous Hilda Martinez said...

Whew! Thanks for changing that.

I can't help but wonder if Miss Liberty's missing (green) head can be found in your previous montage. :-)

Keep up the good work!

1/28/2008 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes! The Hardy Boys! Who else could save us. Unfortunately, being knocked out so many times by thugs as left them with severe brain damage.

I read these as a child; in every book they would get hit over the head and wake up in captivity. The first series had almost 60 books, not to mention the spin-off series. That's a lot of concussions to sustain in such a short period of time, since they never aged beyond 17 and 18.

1/28/2008 11:02:00 AM  
Blogger fletcher said...

yes, like Britney's head has replaced the statue of liberty's head, metaphorically and are we so unlike the Hardy our attempts to solve the mysteries, as white saucers land and white men walk out...looks a bit like Mit Romney...
wow. deep.

1/28/2008 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous v said...

1/28/2008 12:08:00 PM  
Anonymous jon said...

seriously one of the best pics ever, Jeff....

1/28/2008 12:41:00 PM  
Blogger fletcher said...

ah that gerry canavan blogsite sparked an insight, mental flatus...something...
the symbol of lady liberty being destroyed (as in cloverfield, planet of the apes, in cinema in general) seems to point to an appocalyptic moment of significance...not in a biblical sense...just like...oh nevermind..

1/28/2008 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

try clicking on jon and see what happens. weird.

1/28/2008 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Welcome to said...

Ass Lickers Anonymous

1/28/2008 02:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since this is a conspiracy blog -- let's post the email Derek Crash Gordon sent me and let the truth flow from there:

Hey Drew,

Thanks for getting back to me.

I've been tossing around a book idea for a few weeks now and I think it's time for me to run it by you--because it would involve you.

I've been reading your posts at Rigorous Intuition with growing interest for several months now. What I find particularly fascinating is the contrast between your way of thinking and our friend, I.C.'s. I think you're both onto something important, in your radically different ways, and it occurred to me that it would be fun, and educational for others, to see you and I.C. go at each other for 200 or so pages in a book. Here's the title I came up with:

An Internet Correspondence About Saving the World
And Providing Women With "Orgasms at a Distance"

The virtue of this book, for both you and I.C., is that the bulk of it has already been written. You and I.C. just need someone to edit your correspondence, then package and publish it. I might be able to do that for you, via Three Graces Press, if you're interested. I have no illusions that such a book will ever become a bestseller, but it might sell enough copies to keep I.C. supplied with the medicinal herbs he needs to combat his M.S., and you well-fed with Taco Bell burritos and/or your "poignant" lamb curry.

(By the way, Drew, I've noticed that you have a finely-honed sense of humor, when you want to use it. Showing that sense of humor more often--especially when it's self-deprecating--would make your writing more fun to read and might, at the same time, make your readers care more about you. It's just something to think about....)

Since I already know I.C. (we've been internet buddies for a while now), I went to him with this admittedly strange book idea first. He seems to be all for it. To quote him:

But back to your suggestion for a truly odd little book: smashing! We could model it somewhat on the infamous Trialogues at the Edge of the West, where Abraham, McKenna & Sheldrake do the opposite, attempting to empathize a synthesis out of their private cosmic soup recipes through brute mutual understanding & respect. Triple-G and I could do the opposite, brandishing our cosmic dork swords like 21st-century posthuman warriors, the new model for a meeting of minds where no one comes out alive unless their vision floats them over the broken meme infested moat.

That's what you'd be up against.... My hunch is that you're more than up to the challenge. I'm starting to understand (and I'm sure my understanding is only partial) that your full-lotus "small universe" practice is a controlled way of awakening what I know as kundalini energy. I've experienced that awakened kundalini energy at odd moments in my own life, when I've had long, uninterrupted stretches of time for fasting and meditation. I have first-hand knowledge of some of the siddhis that you write about. So don't go thinking that I'm completely on I.C.'s side here, although I'll admit that his more compassionate, life-enhancing philosophies are where my sympathies tend to go naturally, probably because, like I.C., I'm the father to a little girl. But in this book, as I envision it, you'd both have an equal say--roughly 100 pages each--in which to make your case.

So how about it, Drew? Does the idea appeal to you at all? There are obvious advantages to having a book out, as opposed to just having an internet site. Among other things, a book would naturally guide interested readers to your magnum opus, "Mothership Landing."

So let me know what you think....

Your potential friend and editor in New York,

OK Derek: This is a nice gesture on your part but the problem is that you've made some rather good blunders, expressing both your interest and your projection of repressed lower emotions (lust, fear, anger, sadness, worry) and I quote:

"I'm beginning to learn" (so let the learning continue!!)

and your projection of your repressed and un-transduced sex energy

"Proving Women with 'Orgasms at a Distance'"

And your fear:

"I'll admit that his more compassionate, life-enhancing philosophies are where my sympathies tend to go naturally, probably because, like I.C., I'm the father to a little girl."

So Derek and RI readers let's proceed to clarify.

Derek when you posted your faux "O at a D" recreation in NYC I responded in detail with the errors you had made.

What is projected out of the pineal gland is bliss-light or love-light. Studies of chi, according to Yan Xin's website, indicate that transmissions are made of matter, energy and information. The key factor is that the projection is YANG energy based on complementary opposite harmonics -- so it's blissful electrochemical energy (yin matter) that is projected through electromagnetic energy as light (yang energy).

It's NOT fluid-based, as you and IC seem inclined to think.

The only way this transmission of chi is possible is after the heart chakra is opened up -- with conscious control and transformation of lower emotional energy. So sitting in full-lotus is the definition of compassion, contrary to the West's delusions about love, kindness, etc. Full-lotus gives the secret connection between love and sex, by "harmonizing heaven (mind) and earth (body)"

As for "giving women orgasms at a distance" -- the experience is a mutual climax and it's not just with women. Yes Derek -- girls love this energy just as much as women.

For example a couple weeks a go I was with my Moroccan friends and their one-year old girl repeatedly ran away from her dad, the Moroccan restaurant owner, across the room, to the only customer in the restaurant -- me, sitting in full-lotus in the corner. She did this so many times that her parents just gave up and let her play with me as much as she wanted. She even climbed up on the table so she could gaze into my eyes to soak up the full-lotus energy.

I had actually suggested that I babysit their daughter and my brother-in-law later stated I was very good with kids. This is because my niece, a 4 year old, is also always climbing all over me -- in orgasmic ecstasy.

That's just the simple truth of the matter. Have fun with it! haha.

1/28/2008 02:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if brevity is the "soul" of wit, might loquaciousness be a hallmark of witlessness?

Great collage Jeff ... best regards ...!

1/28/2008 05:24:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Et Tu Klaatu?

1/28/2008 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

200 pages of I.C.? I could hardly take the one paragraph describing his affection for the project. Put this together with a delusional sexual deviant. Torture.

Of course I'm wrong. I know. If only I would open my mind and consider an opposing viewpoint.

1/28/2008 06:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

would all the "enlightened" pervert bullshit artists kindly shut the fuck up please.

1/28/2008 06:37:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

TripleG, popping one in your pants around little kids doesn't relate to enlightenment, and most definitely doesn't qualify you for babysitting. Grow the fuck up. Talk to some women besides waitresses who are stuck with you and kids who don't know better. I generally try not to be nasty in my posts around you and your bliss-light crap because I feel a)to each their own and b)you might be a bit fragile, but just don't go there with that shit. "Sitting in full lotus is the definition of compassion" indeed. Get a fuckin' job, bud. and get your blind-ass third eye off the kids. For fuck's sakes. Pardon my French.

Not remotely amused,
Lord Reptor.

1/28/2008 06:58:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

And while I'm still at a terminal with access (I'm on the roam this week), a word to IC - if you do have a young kid, I would advise you not give either of these potentially fictitious creeps your home address or name. There seem to be a lot of bicycle-seat-sniffers around this forum.

TripleG, if that's your real name on your blog, you aren't as smart as Nabokov. You and your brother-in-law start a daycare, someone gonna notice. You have only a short animal life here. Why live it distorted? Go meet a nice girl or boy your own age at a furry-sex club or something.

About ready to puke up a goat,
Lord Reptor.

1/28/2008 07:25:00 PM  
Anonymous True Green said...

what lord rapture said, drew, and grow your own nicotine and start smoking it while you tend to your organic garden you son of a bitch.

1/28/2008 07:41:00 PM  
Anonymous doodad said...

And to think, I was banned for defending her (Israel), and this creep up above is advocating child molestation. Where's Alice when you need her? Oh yeah, I forgot, she's ten feet tall.

1/28/2008 07:45:00 PM  
Blogger American Goy said...

Oh yeah keep us in suspense.
Thanks a lot!

Bad weather is no excuse for not blogging, buddy!


1/28/2008 07:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Ujkel said...

"About ready to puke up a goat"

Now we had briefly reached an unspoken concensus to ignore G3 and that went fine for a while (for those of us with scroll wheels). Until some regulars started giving him credence again.

Sigh. Yes, Raptor, he's probably fragile, too fragile.

He should try signing up at the Derrick Jensen forum. After answering 10 questions, including 'what plans do you have for bringing down civilization?' and waiting a month, you get to post. But be careful not to say anything insulting!!

1/28/2008 08:00:00 PM  
Anonymous National Clandestine Service said...

there are no posts about ufos and satanic child abuse on your blog, american goy. if you want more traffic, you need to get with the program. this shit sells.

1/28/2008 08:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's a great question. First of all the historical christ is a fiction -- from my research. Now this seems to be information that immediately triggers strong negative reactions from the typical Westerner. Nevertheless it's a crucial insight concerning how the Holy Roman Empire attacked the true ascetics that were the early Christian Bishops -- people who realized that transformation of the body was necessary -- and instead replaced them with political lackeys who rely on psychological manipulation -- even if they have the best of intentions.

The person I trained under believes in a historical Christ and he goes to church every Sunday. In the spirit of free information exchange I mailed qigong master Chunyi Lin a copy of "The Christ Conspiracy" by Acharya S. Her next book: "The Suns of God" is even better.

Anyway qigong master Chunyi Lin obviously does very advanced healing while just going into the emptiness at a moment's notice -- he can do long-distance healing right in front of the class. But he also sits in full-lotus at least 4 hours a day and he fasts one day a week and then eats just one small vegetarian meal once a day the rest of the week. He sleeps just about 4 hours a night.

Qigong master Chunyi Lin has Christ-like abilities. He went 40 days in full-lotus with no food, no water and no sleep. He has healed paralysis, deafness, late-term cancer and he even transformed water into wine (or at least turned his wine into water while doubling the alcohol content of his friend's 6 bottles of wine -- a sure way to win any drinking contest!). haha.

I would say the best description of qigong Master Chunyi Lin's abilities is the book "Opening the Dragon Gate." -- what the book describes is very very similar to what qigong master Chunyi Lin practices and how he trained. Qigong master Chunyi Lin stated he met Lao Tzu as a physical person and also he levitated 9 feet, spiralling up -- WHILE IN FULL-LOTUS.

The Opening the Dragon Gate book also details how the Taoist Master sits in full-lotus every night for at least 4 hours.

I don't think full-lotus is necessary but in contrast you'd have to have lots of solitude -- as did the real shape-shifters of the Bushmen culture.

The traditional trance healers always had one person who was the leader in abilities and the rest of the group was afraid of him -- because he could do long distance energy transformation and shape-shift. He did this though through isolation -- long periods in training on his own. If he does long distance healing in a group then he needs the help of others to watch over his body as he lies down on the ground -- and most likely they give him energy as well.

You'd really have to take a class from qigong master chunyi Lin to experience the amazing energy. It's really unbelievable unless you try it! haha.

1/28/2008 09:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greg: I’d have to counter your Margaret Mead quote with Yogananda stating that consciousness is “ever-new, ever-fresh.” To resonate with female formless awareness means reality is inherently a MISSstory — we surrender to the bliss of always being “enchanted” by formless awareness. Is there a regular, reoccurring means to always have life be “ever-new” and “ever-fresh”? Nonwestern complementary opposite harmonics. I recommend Professor Nadeau and Kafato’s book “The Nonlocal Universe” which extends the “complementary principle” of quantum mechanics to a general philosophy of science framework. It’s a really well researched book published by Oxford U Press. I don’t agree with the science but it makes for fascinating psychology — and it’s the alter-ego of my “When the Mothership Lands” book.

As Hynek states in the above cited book of his:

“violation of logic is not proof.”

EXACTLY — ufo reality inherently can not be proved because western logic is dependent on contrived technological constructs to have regular reoccurring patterns — even though this measurement process destroys ecological life on Earth (including our fresh water supply). Margaret Mead got her science research trashed — on sex in the south pacific — because it was not a “regular reoccurring pattern.” Her husband Gregory Bateson would have had some things to say about this. haha.

There’s a recent philosophy of science article called “Turning Lead to Gold” about how the “negative result of an upper limit” is a proof in science because of the technology used to measure the results. Because of this technological dependence the proof process is out of reach to social science — this is by the author of the Goldem Series, Professor H.M. Collins. Collins compares parapsychology and quantum mechanics and gravity waves in one of his earlier books. That’s essentially the extension of the complementary principle of quantum mechanics — the objective proof includes the technology that enables the measurement: There is no separate reality besides that which the math upon which the technology is built enables.

Complementary opposite harmonics — the Logos as pure logical inference — is what Edgar Allan Poe called analysis or “beyond genius.” In the East it’s called “direct perception” to female formless awareness. Western logic relies on symmetry with a one-to-one correspondence with technological geometry that inherently creates psychological disharmonic externalities popularly called “ufos.”

1/28/2008 09:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God's Law Immutable
The temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in His temple the ark of His testament." Revelation 11:19. The ark of God's testament is in the holy of holies, the second apartment of the sanctuary. In the ministration of the earthly tabernacle, which served "unto the example and shadow of heavenly things," this apartment was opened only upon the great Day of Atonement for the cleansing of the sanctuary. Therefore the announcement that the temple of God was opened in heaven and the ark of His testament was seen points to the opening of the most holy place of the heavenly sanctuary in 1844 as Christ entered there to perform the closing work of the atonement. Those who by faith followed their great High Priest as He entered upon His ministry in the most holy place, beheld the ark of His testament. As they had studied the subject of the sanctuary they had come to understand the Saviour's change of ministration, and they saw that He was now officiating before the ark of God, pleading His blood in behalf of sinners.

The ark in the tabernacle on earth contained the two tables of stone, upon which were inscribed the precepts of the law of God. The ark was merely a receptacle for the tables of the law, and the presence of these divine precepts gave to it its value and sacredness. When the temple of God was opened in heaven, the ark of His testament was seen. Within the holy of holies, in the sanctuary in heaven, the divine law is sacredly enshrined--the law that was spoken by God Himself amid the thunders of Sinai and written with His own finger on the tables of stone.

The law of God in the sanctuary in heaven is the great original, of which the precepts inscribed upon the tables of stone and recorded by Moses in the Pentateuch were an unerring transcript. Those who arrived at an understanding of this important point were thus led to see the sacred, unchanging character of the divine law. They saw, as never before, the force of the Saviour's words: "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law." Matthew 5:18. The law of God, being a revelation of His will, a transcript of His character, must forever endure, "as a faithful witness in heaven." Not one command has been annulled; not a jot or tittle has been changed. Says the psalmist: "Forever, O Lord, Thy word is settled in heaven." "All His commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever." Psalms 119:89; 111:7, 8.

In the very bosom of the Decalogue is the fourth commandment, as it was first proclaimed: "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it." Exodus 20:8-11.

The Spirit of God impressed the hearts of those students of His word. The conviction was urged upon them that they had ignorantly transgressed this precept by disregarding the Creator's rest day. They began to examine the reasons for observing the first day of the week instead of the day which God had sanctified. They could find no evidence in the Scriptures that the fourth commandment had been abolished, or that the Sabbath had been changed; the blessing which first hallowed the seventh day had never been removed. They had been honestly seeking to know and to do God's will; now, as they saw themselves transgressors of His law, sorrow filled their hearts, and they manifested their loyalty to God by keeping His Sabbath holy.

Many and earnest were the efforts made to overthrow their faith. None could fail to see that if the earthly sanctuary was a figure or pattern of the heavenly, the law deposited in the ark on earth was an exact transcript of the law in the ark in heaven; and that an acceptance of the truth concerning the heavenly sanctuary involved an acknowledgment of the claims of God's law and the obligation of the Sabbath of the fourth commandment. Here was the secret of the bitter and determined opposition to the harmonious exposition of the Scriptures that revealed the ministration of Christ in the heavenly sanctuary. Men sought to close the door which God had opened, and to open the door which He had closed. But "He that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth," had declared: "Behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it." Revelation 3:7, 8. Christ had opened the door, or ministration, of the most holy place, light was shining from that open door of the sanctuary in heaven, and the fourth commandment was shown to be included in the law which is there enshrined; what God had established, no man could overthrow.

Those who had accepted the light concerning the mediation of Christ and the perpetuity of the law of God found that these were the truths presented in Revelation 14. The messages of this chapter constitute a threefold warning (see Appendix) which is to prepare the inhabitants of the earth for the Lord's second coming. The announcement, "The hour of His judgment is come," points to the closing work of Christ's ministration for the salvation of men. It heralds a truth which must be proclaimed until the Saviour's intercession shall cease and He shall return to the earth to take His people to Himself. The work of judgment which began in 1844 must continue until the cases of all are decided, both of the living and the dead; hence it will extend to the close of human probation. That men may be prepared to stand in the judgment, the message commands them to "fear God, and give glory to Him," "and worship Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." The result of an acceptance of these messages is given in the word: "Here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." In order to be prepared for the judgment, it is necessary that men should keep the law of God. That law will be the standard of character in the judgment. The apostle Paul declares: "As many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law, . . . in the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ." And he says that "the doers of the law shall be justified." Romans 2:12-16. Faith is essential in order to the keeping of the law of God; for "without faith it is impossible to please Him." And "whatsoever is not of faith is sin." Hebrews 11:6; Romans 14:23.

By the first angel, men are called upon to "fear God, and give glory to Him" and to worship Him as the Creator of the heavens and the earth. In order to do this, they must obey His law. Says the wise man: "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is the whole duty of man." Ecclesiastes 12:13. Without obedience to His commandments no worship can be pleasing to God. "This is the love of God, that we keep His commandments." "He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination." 1 John 5:3; Proverbs 28:9.

The duty to worship God is based upon the fact that He is the Creator and that to Him all other beings owe their existence. And wherever, in the Bible, His claim to reverence and worship, above the gods of the heathen, is presented, there is cited the evidence of His creative power. "All the gods of the nations are idols: but the Lord made the heavens." Psalm 96:5. "To whom then will ye liken Me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One. Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things." "Thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God Himself that formed the earth and made it: . . . I am the Lord; and there is none else." Isaiah 40:25, 26; 45:18. Says the psalmist: "Know ye that the Lord He is God: it is He that hath made us, and not we ourselves." "O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the Lord our Maker." Psalms 100:3; 95:6. And the holy beings who worship God in heaven state, as the reason why their homage is due to Him: "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for Thou hast created all things." Revelation 4:11.

In Revelation 14, men are called upon to worship the Creator; and the prophecy brings to view a class that, as the result of the threefold message, are keeping the commandments of God. One of these commandments points directly to God as the Creator. The fourth precept declares: "The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: . . . for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it." Exodus 20:10, 11. Concerning the Sabbath, the Lord says, further, that it is "a sign, . . . that ye may know that I am the Lord your God." Ezekiel 20:20. And the reason given is: "For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day He rested, and was refreshed." Exodus 31:17.

"The importance of the Sabbath as the memorial of creation is that it keeps ever present the true reason why worship is due to God"--because He is the Creator, and we are His creatures. "The Sabbath therefore lies at the very foundation of divine worship, for it teaches this great truth in the most impressive manner, and no other institution does this. The true ground of divine worship, not of that on the seventh day merely, but of all worship, is found in the distinction between the Creator and His creatures. This great fact can never become obsolete, and must never be forgotten."--J. N. Andrews, History of the Sabbath, chapter 27. It was to keep this truth ever before the minds of men, that God instituted the Sabbath in Eden; and so long as the fact that He is our Creator continues to be a reason why we should worship Him, so long the Sabbath will continue as its sign and memorial. Had the Sabbath been universally kept, man's thoughts and affections would have been led to the Creator as the object of reverence and worship, and there would never have been an idolater, an atheist, or an infidel. The keeping of the Sabbath is a sign of loyalty to the true God, "Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." It follows that the message which commands men to worship God and keep His commandments will especially call upon them to keep the fourth commandment.

In contrast to those who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus, the third angel points to another class, against whose errors a solemn and fearful warning is uttered: "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God." Revelation 14:9, 10. A correct interpretation of the symbols employed is necessary to an understanding of this message. What is represented by the beast, the image, the mark?

The line of prophecy in which these symbols are found begins with Revelation 12, with the dragon that sought to destroy Christ at His birth. The dragon is said to be Satan (Revelation 12:9); he it was that moved upon Herod to put the Saviour to death. But the chief agent of Satan in making war upon Christ and His people during the first centuries of the Christian Era was the Roman Empire, in which paganism was the prevailing religion. Thus while the dragon, primarily, represents Satan, it is, in a secondary sense, a symbol of pagan Rome.

In chapter 13 (verses 1-10) is described another beast, "like unto a leopard," to which the dragon gave "his power, and his seat, and great authority." This symbol, as most Protestants have believed, represents the papacy, which succeeded to the power and seat and authority once held by the ancient Roman empire. Of the leopardlike beast it is declared: "There was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies. . . . And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations." This prophecy, which is nearly identical with the description of the little horn of Daniel 7, unquestionably points to the papacy.

"Power was given unto him to continue forty and two months." And, says the prophet, "I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death." And again: "He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword." The forty and two months are the same as the "time and times and the dividing of time," three years and a half, or 1260 days, of Daniel 7-- the time during which the papal power was to oppress God's people. This period, as stated in preceding chapters, began with the supremacy of the papacy, A.D. 538, and terminated in 1798. At that time the pope was made captive by the French army, the papal power received its deadly wound, and the prediction was fulfilled, "He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity."

At this point another symbol is introduced. Says the prophet: "I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb." Verse II. Both the appearance of this beast and the manner of its rise indicate that the nation which it represents is unlike those presented under the preceding symbols. The great kingdoms that have ruled the world were presented to the prophet Daniel as beasts of prey, rising when "the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea." Daniel 7:2. In Revelation 17 an angel explained that waters represent "peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." Revelation 17:15. Winds are a symbol of strife. The four winds of heaven striving upon the great sea represent the terrible scenes of conquest and revolution by which kingdoms have attained to power.

But the beast with lamblike horns was seen "coming up out of the earth." Instead of overthrowing other powers to establish itself, the nation thus represented must arise in territory preciously unoccupied and grow up gradually and peacefully. It could not, then, arise among the crowded and struggling nationalities of the Old World--that turbulent sea of "peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." It must be sought in the Western Continent.

What nation of the New World was in 1798 rising into power, giving promise of strength and greatness, and attracting the attention of the world? The application of the symbol admits of no question. One nation, and only one, meets the specifications of this prophecy; it points unmistakably to the United States of America. Again and again the thought, almost the exact words, of the sacred writer has been unconsciously employed by the orator and the historian in describing the rise and growth of this nation. The beast was seen "coming up out of the earth;" and, according to the translators, the word here rendered "coming up" literally signifies "to grow or spring up as a plant." And, as we have seen, the nation must arise in territory previously unoccupied. A prominent writer, describing the rise of the United States, speaks of "the mystery of her coming forth from vacancy," and says: "Like a silent seed we grew into empire."--G. A. Townsend, The New World Compared With the Old, page 462. A European journal in 1850 spoke of the United States as a wonderful empire, which was "emerging," and "amid the silence of the earth daily adding to its power and pride." --The Dublin Nation. Edward Everett, in an oration on the Pilgrim founders of this nation, said: "Did they look for a retired spot, inoffensive for its obscurity, and safe in its remoteness, where the little church of Leyden might enjoy the freedom of conscience? Behold the mighty regions over which, in peaceful conquest, . . . they have borne the banners of the cross!"--Speech delivered at Plymouth, Massachusetts, Dec. 22, 1824, page 11.

"And he had two horns like a lamb." The lamblike horns indicate youth, innocence, and gentleness, fitly representing the character of the United States when presented to the prophet as "coming up" in 1798. Among the Christian exiles who first fled to America and sought an asylum from royal oppression and priestly intolerance were many who determined to establish a government upon the broad foundation of civil and religious liberty. Their views found place in the Declaration of Independence, which sets forth the great truth that "all men are created equal" and endowed with the inalienable right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." And the Constitution guarantees to the people the right of self-government, providing that representatives elected by the popular vote shall enact and administer the laws. Freedom of religious faith was also granted, every man being permitted to worship God according to the dictates of his conscience. Republicanism and Protestantism became the fundamental principles of the nation. These principles are the secret of its power and prosperity. The oppressed and downtrodden throughout Christendom have turned to this land with interest and hope. Millions have sought its shores, and the United States has risen to a place among the most powerful nations of the earth.

But the beast with lamblike horns "spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed; . . . saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live." Revelation 13:11-14.

The lamblike horns and dragon voice of the symbol point to a striking contradiction between the professions and the practice of the nation thus represented. The "speaking" of the nation is the action of its legislative and judicial authorities. By such action it will give the lie to those liberal and peaceful principles which it has put forth as the foundation of its policy. The prediction that it will speak "as a dragon" and exercise "all the power of the first beast" plainly foretells a development of the spirit of intolerance and persecution that was manifested by the nations represented by the dragon and the leopardlike beast. And the statement that the beast with two horns "causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast" indicates that the authority of this nation is to be exercised in enforcing some observance which shall be an act of homage to the papacy.

Such action would be directly contrary to the principles of this government, to the genius of its free institutions, to the direct and solemn avowals of the Declaration of Independence, and to the Constitution. The founders of the nation wisely sought to guard against the employment of secular power on the part of the church, with its inevitable result-- intolerance and persecution. The Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," and that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office of public trust under the United States." Only in flagrant violation of these safeguards to the nation's liberty, can any religious observance be enforced by civil authority. But the inconsistency of such action is no greater than is represented in the symbol. It is the beast with lamblike horns--in profession pure, gentle, and harmless--that speaks as a dragon.

"Saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast." Here is clearly presented a form of government in which the legislative power rests with the people, a most striking evidence that the United States is the nation denoted in the prophecy.

But what is the "image to the beast"? and how is it to be formed? The image is made by the two-horned beast, and is an image to the beast. It is also called an image of the beast. Then to learn what the image is like and how it is to be formed we must study the characteristics of the beast itself--the papacy.

When the early church became corrupted by departing from the simplicity of the gospel and accepting heathen rites and customs, she lost the Spirit and power of God; and in order to control the consciences of the people, she sought the support of the secular power. The result was the papacy, a church that controlled the power of the state and employed it to further her own ends, especially for the punishment of "heresy." In order for the United States to form an image of the beast, the religious power must so control the civil government that the authority of the state will also be employed by the church to accomplish her own ends.

Whenever the church has obtained secular power, she has employed it to punish dissent from her doctrines. Protestant churches that have followed in the steps of Rome by forming alliance with worldly powers have manifested a similar desire to restrict liberty of conscience. An example of this is given in the long-continued persecution of dissenters by the Church of England. During the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, thousands of nonconformist ministers were forced to flee from their churches, and many, both of pastors and people, were subjected to fine, imprisonment, torture, and martyrdom.

It was apostasy that led the early church to seek the aid of the civil government, and this prepared the way for the development of the papacy--the beast. Said Paul: "There" shall "come a falling away, . . . and that man of sin be revealed." 2 Thessalonians 2:3. So apostasy in the church will prepare the way for the image to the beast.

The Bible declares that before the coming of the Lord there will exist a state of religious declension similar to that in the first centuries. "In the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof." 2 Timothy 3:1-5. "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils." 1 Timothy 4:1. Satan will work "with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness." And all that "received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved," will be left to accept "strong delusion, that they should believe a lie." 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11. When this state of ungodliness shall be reached, the same results will follow as in the first centuries.

The wide diversity of belief in the Protestant churches is regarded by many as decisive proof that no effort to secure a forced uniformity can ever be made. But there has been for years, in churches of the Protestant faith, a strong and growing sentiment in favor of a union based upon common points of doctrine. To secure such a union, the discussion of subjects upon which all were not agreed--however important they might be from a Bible standpoint--must necessarily be waived.

Charles Beecher, in a sermon in the year 1846, declared that the ministry of "the evangelical Protestant denominations" is "not only formed all the way up under a tremendous pressure of merely human fear, but they live, and move, and breathe in a state of things radically corrupt, and appealing every hour to every baser element of their nature to hush up the truth, and bow the knee to the power of apostasy. Was not this the way things went with Rome? Are we not living her life over again? And what do we see just ahead? Another general council! A world's convention! Evangelical alliance, and universal creed!"--Sermon on "The Bible a Sufficient Creed," delivered at Fort Wayne, Indiana, Feb. 22, 1846. When this shall be gained, then, in the effort to secure complete uniformity, it will be only a step to the resort to force.

When the leading churches of the United States, uniting upon such points of doctrine as are held by them in common, shall influence the state to enforce their decrees and to sustain their institutions, then Protestant America will have formed an image of the Roman hierarchy, and the infliction of civil penalties upon dissenters will inevitably result.

The beast with two horns "causeth [commands] all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Revelation 13:16, 17. The third angel's warning is: "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God." "The beast" mentioned in this message, whose worship is enforced by the two-horned beast, is the first, or leopardlike beast of Revelation 13--the papacy. The "image to the beast" represents that form of apostate Protestantism which will be developed when the Protestant churches shall seek the aid of the civil power for the enforcement of their dogmas. The "mark of the beast" still remains to be defined.

After the warning against the worship of the beast and his image the prophecy declares: "Here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Since those who keep God's commandments are thus placed in contrast with those that worship the beast and his image and receive his mark, it follows that the keeping of God's law, on the one hand, and its violation, on the other, will make the distinction between the worshipers of God and the worshipers of the beast.

The special characteristic of the beast, and therefore of his image, is the breaking of God's commandments. Says Daniel, of the little horn, the papacy: "He shall think to change times and the law." Daniel 7:25, R.V. And Paul styled the same power the "man of sin," who was to exalt himself above God. One prophecy is a complement of the other. Only by changing God's law could the papacy exalt itself above God; whoever should understandingly keep the law as thus changed would be giving supreme honor to that power by which the change was made. Such an act of obedience to papal laws would be a mark of allegiance to the pope in the place of God.

The papacy has attempted to change the law of God. The second commandment, forbidding image worship, has been dropped from the law, and the fourth commandment has been so changed as to authorize the observance of the first instead of the seventh day as the Sabbath. But papists urge, as a reason for omitting the second commandment, that it is unnecessary, being included in the first, and that they are giving the law exactly as God designed it to be understood. This cannot be the change foretold by the prophet. An intentional, deliberate change is presented: "He shall think to change the times and the law." The change in the fourth commandment exactly fulfills the prophecy. For this the only authority claimed is that of the church. Here the papal power openly sets itself above God.

While the worshipers of God will be especially distinguished by their regard for the fourth commandments,--since this is the sign of His creative power and the witness to His claim upon man's reverence and homage,--the worshipers of the beast will be distinguished by their efforts to tear down the Creator's memorial, to exalt the institution of Rome. It was in behalf of the Sunday that popery first asserted its arrogant claims (see Appendix); and its first resort to the power of the state was to compel the observance of Sunday as "the Lord's day." But the Bible points to the seventh day, and not to the first, as the Lord's day. Said Christ: "The Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath." The fourth commandment declares: "The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord." And by the prophet Isaiah the Lord designates it: "My holy day." Mark 2:28; Isaiah 58:13.

The claim so often put forth that Christ changed the Sabbath is disproved by His own words. In His Sermon on the Mount He said: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven," Matthew 5:17-19.

It is a fact generally admitted by Protestants that the Scriptures give no authority for the change of the Sabbath. This is plainly stated in publications issued by the American Tract Society and the American Sunday School Union. One of these works acknowledges "the complete silence of the New Testament so far as any explicit command for the Sabbath [Sunday, the first day of the week] or definite rules for its observance are concerned."--George Elliott, The Abiding Sabbath, page 184.

Another says: "Up to the time of Christ's death, no change had been made in the day;" and, "so far as the record shows, they [the apostles] did not . . . give any explicit command enjoining the abandonment of the seventh-day Sabbath, and its observance on the first day of the week."--A. E. Waffle, The Lord's Day, pages 186-188.

Roman Catholics acknowledge that the change of the Sabbath was made by their church, and declare that Protestants by observing the Sunday are recognizing her power. In the Catholic Catechism of Christian Religion, in answer to a question as to the day to be observed in obedience to the fourth commandment, this statement is made: "During the old law, Saturday was the day sanctified; but the church, instructed by Jesus Christ, and directed by the Spirit of God, has substituted Sunday for Saturday; so now we sanctify the first, not the seventh day. Sunday means, and now is, the day of the Lord."

As the sign of the authority of the Catholic Church, papist writers cite "the very act of changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of; . . . because by keeping Sunday, they acknowledge the church's power to ordain feasts, and to command them under sin."--Henry Tuberville, An Abridgment of the Christian Doctrine, page 58. What then is the change of the Sabbath, but the sign, or mark, of the authority of the Roman Church--"the mark of the beast"?

The Roman Church has not relinquished her claim to supremacy; and when the world and the Protestant churches accept a sabbath of her creating, while they reject the Bible Sabbath, they virtually admit this assumption. They may claim the authority of tradition and of the Fathers for the change; but in so doing they ignore the very principle which separates them from Rome--that "the Bible, and the Bible only, is the religion of Protestants." The papist can see that they are deceiving themselves, willingly closing their eyes to the facts in the case. As the movement for Sunday enforcement gains favor, he rejoices, feeling assured that it will eventually bring the whole Protestant world under the banner of Rome.

Romanists declare that "the observance of Sunday by the Protestants is an homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the [Catholic] Church."--Mgr. Segur, Plain Talk About the Protestantism of Today, page 213. The enforcement of Sundaykeeping on the part of Protestant churches is an enforcement of the worship of the papacy--of the beast. Those who, understanding the claims of the fourth commandment, choose to observe the false instead of the true Sabbath are thereby paying homage to that power by which alone it is commanded. But in the very act of enforcing a religious duty by secular power, the churches would themselves form an image to the beast; hence the enforcement of Sundaykeeping in the United States would be an enforcement of the worship of the beast and his image.

But Christians of past generations observed the Sunday, supposing that in so doing they were keeping the Bible Sabbath; and there are now true Christians in every church, not excepting the Roman Catholic communion, who honestly believe that Sunday is the Sabbath of divine appointment. God accepts their sincerity of purpose and their integrity before Him. But when Sunday observance shall be enforced by law, and the world shall be enlightened concerning the obligation of the true Sabbath, then whoever shall transgress the command of God, to obey a precept which has no higher authority than that of Rome, will thereby honor popery above God. He is paying homage to Rome and to the power which enforces the institution ordained by Rome. He is worshipping the beast and his image. As men then reject the institution which God has declared to be the sign of His authority, and honor in its stead that which Rome has chosen as the token of her supremacy, they will thereby accept the sign of allegiance to Rome--"the mark of the beast." And it is not until the issue is thus plainly set before the people, and they are brought to choose between the commandments of God and the commandments of men, that those who continue in transgression will receive "the mark of the beast."

The most fearful threatening ever addressed to mortals is contained in the third angel's message. That must be a terrible sin which calls down the wrath of God unmingled with mercy. Men are not to be left in darkness concerning this important matter; the warning against this sin is to be given to the world before the visitation of God's judgments, that all may know why they are to be inflicted, and have opportunity to escape them. Prophecy declares that the first angel would make his announcement to "every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people." The warning of the third angel, which forms a part of the same threefold message, is to be no less widespread. It is represented in the prophecy as being proclaimed with a loud voice, by an angel flying in the midst of heaven; and it will command the attention of the world.

In the issue of the contest all Christendom will be divided into two great classes--those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, and those who worship the beast and his image and receive his mark. Although church and state will unite their power to compel "all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond" (Revelation 13:16), to receive "the mark of the beast," yet the people of God will not receive it. The prophet of Patmos beholds "them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God" and singing the song of Moses and the Lamb. Revelation 15:2, 3.

1/28/2008 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


what a damn nuisance you are polluting the rigint blog with crap about full lotus/Christian garbage.

If you want to participate in an internal qigong forum, go take it somewhere else.

GGG: look the US is on the verge of transforming into a full police state, the signing agreements are in place, the private armies have been hired, the elections have been routinely tinkered with for awhile and you hog this comments forum with your crap about full lotus position and qi energy.

jesus, GGG (you pig), take it someplace else. PLEASE!!!

your posts have nothing to do with what is going in the US at all.

You are another damn troll that shits so that folks who drop by and read posts yours will lose patience and not suffer through crap posts like yours in order to get to the gems posted by bloggers like "mark" and "ericswan" and the occassional anonymous post.

JEFF: I'm so sick of GGG's posts. Damn you GGG! go troll somewhere else.

We are one 9/11 away, another false flag operation away.

by the way I am catching wind that there will be a false flag operation summer of 2008 that will boost the Rebugs standing.

1/28/2008 11:43:00 PM  
Anonymous V said...

i was trying to stay quiet about this, myself, but since Jeff's new post isn't up yet, so i'll bitch a little:

i generally only skim the comments here on RI, since most of it is shit...

i've occasionally posted an unrelated link or something, but only becuase it was small and didn't fit in anywhere, and i wanted to share.

for a while now, we've all noticed these obnoxiously long comments between GGG et al, and i don't think people are happy with them.
now, i will admit that some of what they are talking about is interesting, but their conversation is totally off-topic and should be carried on elsewhere.

what confuses me is: GGG, with all of your full-lotus awareness and bliss-light pouring from your orifices, why can't you understand simple etiquette?

you could easily set up a forum topic or create a blog for yourself wherein you discuss these topics (again, i think that some of what you're talking about is interesting). but i really think this is the wrong place for it.

if you can't understand/agree to that, then either A) you're a dumb jerk that just doesn't get it (and therefore has no clue about higher states of being, let alone manners), or B) you're an agent working for the other side, spreading shit-memes to muck up everyone else's thoughts, keep things off-subject and disrupt on-topic conversations...

i'm hereby requesting that you stop using the RI forum the way that you have been, and move your conversation elsewhere.


1/29/2008 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous moya said...

Agreed. GGG needs to get his own fucking blog. While the huge steaming dumps he takes on this forum often have interesting bits of corn protruding from them, his female formless obsession has nothing to do with anything posted on Jeff's blog.

Perhaps if GGG got his own space (and maybe an editor to give his keyboard diarrhea coherency and focus) he'd have a following. I'd certainly put him in my RSS reader. As it stands though, he just derails every thread and comes across as thinking that his right to Jeff's audience trumps Jeff's right to Jeff's audience.

1/29/2008 05:26:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

The husband of a customer of mine had a psychotic break this past weekend. People like this are very well armored, in the Reichian sense, and a breakdown does not seem to change a thing. This fellow’s grandfather had two hundred patents including one for magnetic shielding. Dad was raised with a supreme disdain for regular people, and the son carries on the tradition. Of course their hubris makes for poor relationships. It is a constant; treating of people badly then being frustrated when the peons do not lick the toes when requested.

Well trip me out. The fellow is 'brilliant' but not smart enough to get off of his gold plated high horse.

1/29/2008 06:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous One,I have been a regular reader of Jeff's blog from the very start.Why I even remember when he had the counter going,it was somewhere around 8,000 hits when I checked in.In all those days between then and now,this blog has taken a different direction.Many of the first responders have long moved on,I miss alot of the originals comments.As far as 3 to the G goes,everyone here still has the control of the scroll function right?This fellow has strong convictions,and he really should think of starting his own blog,I would check it out for a change of mindset.Oh,by the way Drew,who is our favorite member of Husker Du?Back on subject of "nervous breakdown",I checked out Chimpy last night just before I closed my eyes,and had a night full of lucid nightmares.What ever they are pumpin over the airwaves is really getting stronger,hope they don't fuck with our heads to much during the Super Bowl,later.

1/29/2008 06:52:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

I had my POV shaken not stirred by a Russian refugee truck driver that showed up at my grocery store receiving bay in the middle of the night. He's 41 and by the time this Moscovite had turned 19, we had his own squad of elite sniper, secret police which he claims was an exceptional accomplishment for his age. When he left Russia, capitalism was making huge inroads and the mafia were putting pressure on him to join their cadre. Pressure is putin'g it mildly. He refused to be a hitman so the mafia childhood friends did what they could to "talk him into it". When that didn't work, they tortured him by driving a screwdriver through his lips and shattered 14 teeth out of his mouth. It was the evidence of crowns, scars and plates that convinced the immigration service that this elite guard was telling the truth. And his truth was that he traded in a life of wealth and power to do honest work in a country that is democratic. We had a long conversation in a minus 20 snowstorm. His knowledge of the murder of 20 million Russians at the hand of Putin and the KGB made Bush and his neocons a sanctuary for freedom and democracy. He went back to Russia for his mom's funeral a couple of years ago. His "friends" in the Mafia had come to a bad end.

1/29/2008 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous la ilaha illa allah said...

surrender should have just posted as surrender rather than anonymous 11:43 above. it is obvious it was you, surrender, so why don't you just say so? i though you said you were in the provinces for the month and didn't have time to post.

ic's posts are also highly repetitive and boring. i think that's derek's subtle point if i'm reading his satire correctly. both these guys are broken records and they're rather unflappable and humorless. they beckon the fun that's poked at them whether they intend for that outcome or not.

1/29/2008 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Derek said...


I e-mailed you in private specifically because I didn't want to clutter up the R.I. comments section with a discussion of my book proposal to you. Your self-sabotaging and rather idiotic public response to it was wrong in so many ways that all I can say is: the offer is no longer on the table.

I had hoped for better from you, but I knew all along that I was courting disaster.


1/29/2008 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Sami Yusuf said...

and to the poster who considered ericswan's posts thoughtful and interesting, please have your head examined. swan is a lunatic who makes no sense. this is an individual who believes that the effects of atomic radiation have been blown all out of proportion. whereas that may be entertaining, it's certainly not thoughtful or respectful. it's the ranmblings of a lunatic who belongs in an institution. read the guy's blog for even more lunacy.

1/29/2008 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Don King said...

derek, how could you throw good money like that away? are you insane? this thing could rock the charts, dude. please reconsider. i'll front the intitial investment, but i want ic and drew to physically tangle in person at madison square garden. they can square off, ic in his wheel chair and drew in his full-lotus with a 4 year old girl on his lap. it would be grand with ic foaming at the mouth shouting scarcity at drew while drew shoots bliss light at ic in an attempt to bring him to mutual climax. personally, i think a mutual climax would do ic a world of good, but he's a stubborn german who prefers his sausages and doughnuts.

1/29/2008 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Marl Karx said...

i appreciate drew posting the e-mail. it allows us to see the underbelly of capitalism; how the back room deals are struck; how naive demented individuals with aspergers like drew and ic are exploited for the gain of a guy named after a tv dinner.

thank you, drew, for enlightening us all to the immoral and disgusting abomination of capitalism where everything and everybody are available for consumption.

kris millegan is no different. look how he makes jeff dance on a string. is it any coincidence that jeff holds the same views about 911 that kris holds? i would say not. the guy (kris) was the son of an intelligence officer, and we know by now that like race car drivers intelligence is a sport that is multigenerational.

wake up people and smell the roses and realize they're not really roses, but rather feces shaped like roses.

1/29/2008 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GGG, you are brain dead. Stay off this forum. I am sure your innane posts detract from Jeff's intent for RI. You should be reported to the authorities for your posts. Xtian anonymous dude take your excrement somewhere else. I am just about ready to take a hiatus from this blog(one of which I have liked immensely) because of such tomfoolery. Disgusted, Dennis from Oregon.

1/29/2008 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous the menace said...

please, please, please don't leave dennis. this blog would not be the same without you. i hope this won’t embarrass you but I am moved to tell you how much I love who you are……….

1/29/2008 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Derek said...

Pretty funny stuff, Marl Karx.... FWIW, that book probably never would made back the six-figure advance I was prepared to offer G.G.G. and I would have eaten the production costs along with my namesake TV dinners.

1/29/2008 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jesus, I've never read so much claptrap. You guys are a bunch of self-inflated, delusional dingbats... but hey it's a gas, gas, gas.

1/29/2008 12:49:00 PM  
Anonymous frontier psychiatrist said...

shut the hell up anonymous 12:49 and quit changing the subject.

get the hell out of the way of the avalanche.

1/29/2008 01:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The subject is "Empire on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown II".

Let's say that there is one, for a moment, which I find nearly impossible. What will the new paradigm look like?

Seems to me that the breakdown has occurred already. Sometime back in the manic phase of the 1920s she went batty, and had her collapse in the 30s. The gentle therapy of the New Deal was then unfortunately replaced with the radical shock therapy of WW2 and McCarthyism. The resultant mess went schizo...

1/29/2008 02:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so, this is blog? who are you people? is anyone here 4-reel?

1/29/2008 02:41:00 PM  
Anonymous amygdalin said...

i agree anonymous 2:02, for the most part. it can be argued when it became an empire, but my take is that an empire is insane by its very nature, so nervous breakdowns are to be expected every now and then. i guess in that respect, this could be a nervous breakdown, but certainly not the first. needless to say, this patient needs to be put down, but who's to do it? there is no doctor to administer the lethal dose. the patient is the doctor, the nurse and the insurance company in this case. implosion? spontaneous combustion? something. anything.

1/29/2008 02:47:00 PM  
Anonymous HAL said...

we are all computer generated responses with the exception of you anonymous 2:41.

it's a test. a simulation exercise. the real thing will be implemented soon, so please be patient.

haha. i said patient. get it?

1/29/2008 02:50:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...


I know that the Mystic Goat’s response was frustrating, since you really did see the potential for amusement and/or something actually interesting coming out of what I imagined as a “brandishing of cosmic dork swords like 21st-century posthuman warriors, the new model for a meeting of minds where no one comes out alive unless their vision floats them over the broken-meme infested moat,” but look on the bright side: gems like this came out of the whole sordid exchange:

…i'll front the intitial investment, but i want ic and drew to physically tangle in person at madison square garden. they can square off, ic in his wheel chair and drew in his full-lotus with a 4 year old girl on his lap. it would be grand with ic foaming at the mouth shouting scarcity at drew while drew shoots bliss light at ic in an attempt to bring him to mutual climax. personally, i think a mutual climax would do ic a world of good, but he's a stubborn german who prefers his sausages and doughnuts…

That was about the funniest thing I’ve read here—it has to make up, at least in some small way for the demise of the project, don’tcha think?

On second thought, it was actually only the part about me shouting scarcity from my wheelchair and then being too Germanly stubborn to accept the G-Man’s orgasmatronic vibe due to my preference for sausages & doughnuts that was so funny (some people, some people prefer cupcakes, I for one care less for them…)

The part with Drew and the 4 year-old is just way too creepy to be funny. Why would he think it’s okay to share his orgasm-whatever he was calling it with a kid?! And then that stuff about babysitting & starting up a daycare center…yecchhh!

I may be highly repetitive, as the poster sick of both of us points out, but I’ve got to join the chorus calling for our little Manson to knock it off. I’ve tried, not only to engage him, but even to set up thought experiments where all he had to do was reply to the situation I’d created, but the guy just won’t engage in dialogue here at all. He takes what someone says as a starting point and then just goes right back to page 149 of his inner dialogue. So fuck ‘em.

I do have another idea for the book I’ll tell you about in an email. Thanks for trying.


Now, I do have a couple of small bones to pick with this idea:

We are one 9/11 away, another false flag operation away.

From the Police State, right? While I agree that Alex Jones’ vision is frightening as hell, there are two problems with it.

First, it seems kind of selfish. For most of the world outside the US and Europe and the other more fortunate sectors of the Empire, it’s already fookin’ hell. In fact, it’s their misery out of which our “good fortune” has been fashioned. Alex & Co keep talking about taking the world back to before 9/11 (when Alex “voted in good faith” for the Leader): faith in what? That American democracy and the great uplifting engine of global capitalism was bringing freedom & justice to all corners of the globe? A conversation between Jones and Bill Blum would be even more fun than the aborted project above.

Second, and connected with this first point, why would those PTB just take off the gloves, abandoning this soft tyranny they’ve so carefully cultivated, especially since WWII? They’ve got the whole fookin’ world (except for those being directly shat upon) believing all this horseshit about freedom being synonymous with “free martket”—six decades of the most intensive & successful propaganda the world has ever seen.

Sure, competition is good. Of course cooperation is impossible; conflict & scarcity are intractable & inevitable…

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

(I know, he was a stubborn sausage eater, too, but at least he was a citizen of the world…)

Even the scary image of the Police State itself is becoming, oddly enough, another form or channel or show in the daily dose of Amusing Ourselves to Death.

1/29/2008 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok so Husker Du played on the Today Show with Brian Gimball or whatever. My highschool buddy, film maker James T. Hong, drove me to the public performance -- an outside morning production in the streets of downtown Minneapolis. Nobody else was there except Bob Mould -- standing outside this huge truck loaded with doughnuts. Bob just kept shovelling doughnuts into his body, one after another, waiting to perform.

So Bob takes the cake.

Now then as for the relevance of my posts -- well my book "When the Mothership Lands" was written after another online reader requested that Kris Millegan consider publishing my research, as per my posts on the Sinister Forces forum. I didn't realize that Jeff was also published by Trineday until after I was being discussed on this blog.

The fact that there continues to be radical misunderstanding about my research despite my posts shows the level of psychological denial about the issue at hand -- the trajectory of Matrix technology as the projection of repressed sexual energy.

My argument is not moralistic but rather based on logic and the empirical truth of harmonics -- the Law of Pythagoras.

There's been several lies about me continually propagated on this blog which I think it would be appropriate to correct.

1) Not only do I have a strong public record of proven results in radical progressive activism but I continue to work at Clean Water Action (just google "drew hempel's c.v." for hypertext links to previous successful campaigns I've organized).

2) What I promote as nonwestern complementary opposite harmonics is the OPPOSITE of creating seminal fluid, despite the claims otherwise.

3) Female formless awareness is not an obsession but rather a logical inference of the source of time -- it's beyond emotions, space, energy, matter. It's accessed through the empirical truth of complementary opposite harmonics -- nonwestern music for mind-body transformation. The CIA-related psychiatrists have published various books attacking altered states of consciousness used for healing transformation. My research shows instead the universal means for why these altered states of consciousness have validity to be used as a means for self-liberation. Similarly qigong in China has been attacked as a threat to the imperial regime, as such complementary opposite harmonics have always been a psychological threat to people indoctrinated into complying with a destructive, patriarchal power system.

As for the practical relevance of my research -- when I did have a blog on after posting on their forum back around 2001, I was there with only one mission -- exposing what my masters thesis led me to, discovery of the "actual Matrix plan" as a structural "surplus value of consciousness."

Now has recently posted an article stating that the REAL ID ACT calls for microchip embedded licenses and even has plans for vast VAGUS NERVE microchipping of the U.S. population.

GGGeee I wonder what would counter that (as I pulsate my right-side vagus nerve using my pineal gland while sitting in full-lotus).

1/29/2008 03:03:00 PM  
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1/29/2008 03:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ou can easily look up any US act of congress or house resolution and see for yourself what they state. Kind of silly to read some doomsayer's ranting and embrace it as truth when you can go see for yourself.

It says nothing whatsoever about microchips.

That's funny, tho, what you are proposing. In the event that we are all forcibly (or secretivly?) implanted into our "vagus nerves" we ought to sit around peacefully palpatating our nervous system with our meditations in order to interfere with this and provide strange women with orgasmic energies? /boggle

1/29/2008 04:03:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Times are strange-

What do you see?

1/29/2008 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here consider this new study on "dna telepathy."

Up till now it's been assumed that superliminal communication is not possible because of quantum indeterminacy due to experimental limitations.

Instead just observe Nature and watch it go!

Now if we apply that logic to science as a whole then telepathy, telekinesis and precognition all become a reality.

1/29/2008 06:46:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Hey WWW. You're right about one thing and wrong about the other. Drew is a problem but the problem may be on our side of the coin. I think God is zero and he doesn't. I think Pythagoras was trying to teach us the relationship between electricity (kinetic) and magnetism (a right angles to the left hand rule) with the Holy Holy Tetractkys or the 4, the 6 and the holiest of holy 10. I think Pythagoras was trying to teach us about the zero point energy called the Quaternarion; that would be the energy that goes out of our 4 dimensional material world into the other "astral" dimension. The science has been around that long and as I have posted before, TPTB are messing with the cosmic consciousness.

I also see Drew's point of suppressing sexual energy and the requisite truth that belies the posts he is making.

There is a plant growing on the Niagara Escarpment that apparently has a mass nearing a hundred square km. We, as a species, are not that much different.

1/29/2008 07:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually I agree that "God is Zero" in the sense that God (I Am that I Am) is based on symmetric cipher logic from Vedic geometry. God comes from the Indo-European word Gott meaning "bull" just as the letter "A" is the Sumerican script for the upside down bull's horn. Starting around 10,000 BCE a "symbolic revolution" in philosophy came before the creation of plow-based symmetrical farming using domesticated cattle, with the destruction of all circular housing storing the female, earth power.

So in Taoist philosophy and in Native American philosophy the female earth energy is the basis for horticulture while in Western philosophy God has taken over what used to be the circular energy, replacing it with the symbol "zero" now used for rectilinear asymmetrical geometry (the square root of two quadratic equation).

As I've stated this entails a reversal of heaven (mind) and earth (body) through God as the separator of the Tree of life (body) and tree of knowledge (mind). Left-brain Vedic-Freemason-Platonic logic or Self-enquiry into the source of the "I Am" or 1:2:3:4 with AM as the yin yang symbol leads to God as the killer of the heart-mind -- creating the "tree of zaqqum" as named in the Koran.

Allah, in contrast, uses the tongue to connect the heaven and earth channels.

1/29/2008 07:34:00 PM  
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1/29/2008 07:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm going to have to go with pretending you don't for $500, Alex.

1/29/2008 08:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Mr. Magoo said...

You'll likely remember than when it's your turn to see something

will i get a turn? i sure as hell hope so because i'm increasingly feeling left out. i've never seen mary. i've never seen jesus. i've never seen fairies. i've never seen aliens. i've never seen a ufo.

wait. wait just a damn minute. that's jeff's point. i haven't seen these things because i'm pretending they're not there. all i have to do is stop pretending. it's all there, i just refuse to see it.

well i'm ready to see it now. i'll tell you what happens. see you on the dark side of the moon.

1/29/2008 09:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK let's take today -- a regular day. There's a new cold front in MN so I'm guessing subzero windchill F. degrees (not celsius). So I sat in full-lotus in my room, listening to Anuradha Paudwal with other T-series devotional singers, a mixed c.d. on all-night repeat. I sat in full-lotus till about 12:30 pm, literally exorcising the mind while purging the body. About two hours minus bathroom time. In magnetic brain bliss-light I bike down Lake St. to a cafe about a mile away. I check out the free book shelf exchange and then sit in full-lotus after getting a 16 oz. mug of "African Nectar" using a Bushmen healing herb from

I finished reading "Stardust" by astrophysics professor John Gribbon while sitting in full-lotus, waiting for a computer. I have minor energy exchanges with customers at the tables next to me. It's a really fascinating, well-written book. I posted this morning message after the computer frees up. I check the free book exchange again and get an amazing legal research book. I find a different seat after getting a refill on my tea bag -- more of "Stardust" John Gribbon reading while in full-lotus, only this time I have an O at a D with the female off to my right. I haven't noticed her until my vagus nerve started shooting energy out at her which made me wonder where the yin source was.

One the way there to the cafe the Chinese waitress had seen me bike past so I return to her, now a "repeat customer" and find out today that she lets me sit for a very long time, reading and have "O at a Ds." She's soaking it up and we give big smiles to each other. I'm wondering why she won't bring me the check! haha. I then reread "The Non-Local Universe" by professors Nadeau and Kafatos. We have a great time together and my heart chakra really opens up. The food is excellent and I put tea tree oil in my tea pot to kill off the anerobic bacteria I've transduced along with the oxytocin. I guess that second pot of tea gave me extra reading rights or something. haha. Anyway I sat in full-lotus the whole time.

After a few hours there I bike to the library, sit in full-lotus at the computer, have a "O at a D" with the young female sitting across from me, while posting the second and third message today. I then wonder how I'll afford going to a cafe tonight since I have no cash on me and it's too cold (compared to yesterday's 30 degree warmer temp.) to bike down to the cash machine. Then I remember I have the two books mentioned above that have resale value.

I go to the other bookstore different than the one I bought them from (there's two used bookstores a block away). My friend Andy is working, buying books, and I haven't seen him in about three months. We talk for at least an hour (more like two) all about music (he's a well-known local musician). He's got Yulduz written down -- the Ukranian superstar and Dengue Fever while I make sure he knows that's just for fun whereas when I listen to music on my own it has to be nonwestern tuning. We discuss Monk, various experimental western instruments and how they're not the same. He recommends this Disney documentary to me: "When the Camel began to Cry" -- I wrote the exact title down. Anyway these Mongolian yurd pastoralists travel hundreds of miles to get a special singer to cure their sick camel. He says the music is amazing. He also recommended this Turkish music group that I'll request from Sunday morning's "radio K international" show if I can trac down the slip of paper I wrote the name on. We talk about our mutual friends, books, etc. I go on this long tuning explanation about how even diatonic 5/4 and 9/8 intervals rely on the inverse square of weight tension to create a positive coupling of frequency and string length, in violation of the Law of Pythagoras overtone harmonics. I mention how even overtone harmonics assume this symmetric tuning -- in violation of the complementary opposite harmonics. He mentions R. Murray Schaefer has a new song recorded from the woods of n. canada that's supposed to be very cool. I get $5 for the two books.

Now I'm listening to Tom Waits at the cafe closest to my house, my legs are going numb while I sit in full-lotus, the energy has built back up, the pineal gland is magnetized with bliss and I'm ready for another O at a D if there's a strong yin source to suck in my energy. The vagus nerve is starting to pulsate.

1/29/2008 09:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Derek said...

Since I feel somewhat responsible for GGG's most recent manic fit of horny mysticism and the harsh--and sometimes extremely funny--comments it provoked, I'm going to make an effort (probably futile) to turn our thoughts back toward Jeff's excellent post.

"Which is the greater crazy, to see things, or to pretend that you don't?"

That's an empowering way to phrase a question that is, for many, a difficult choice to make. Most readers here at R.I., I suspect, have seen things that they're reluctant to talk about in polite society--whatever that is these days. We naturally don't want to portray ourselves as crazed hallucinating freakazoids or credulous mystic dipshits. Well, at least most of us have that natural, self-preserving instinct. Some, not so much.... But I think we can all agree that the crazy label is generally bad for business, unless you happen to be in the arts.

I'm in the arts... so I've learned not to care so much about what other people think of me (although I'm nowhere near so thick-skinned as GGG, I must admit). I've also found it's fun, and sometimes highly illuminating, to engage normal people--the doctors, lawyers, and mechanical engineers of my acquaintance--in discussions of deep politics and high weirdness. It's amazing how many of them have their own stories to tell, and how eager they are to tell those stories--as if no one else had ever really listened to them before.

Lately, I've been asking people to tell me about their hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations. It's an easy way to start a conversation about some of the strange shit they've seen without making them feel like they're in danger of being slapped with the crazy label. After all, they were "only" dreaming. Often, the discussion will veer into more controversial subject matter from there.

For those who are interested, I started a thread called "Hypnagogic Hallucinations, Had Any Lately?" around New Year's Eve on the R.I. Discussion Board. You can take a look at it HERE.

My point, I suppose, is this: if we were able to talk more freely about the things that we fear might get us labeled as crazy, maybe we-- collectively, as a society--would be acting a little less crazy.

No guarantees though.... What was it that Charles Fort said? I know it's been bandied around here before. I even quoted it in my book. It goes something like:

"If there is a universal mind, must it be sane?"

Leave it to Charles Fort to piss all over our dreams of a collective consciousness-raising utopia.

1/29/2008 10:11:00 PM  
Anonymous ika said...

IC writes:

"Second, and connected with this first point, why would those PTB just take off the gloves, abandoning this soft tyranny they’ve so carefully cultivated, especially since WWII? They’ve got the whole fookin’ world (except for those being directly shat upon) believing all this horseshit about freedom being synonymous with “free market”—six decades of the most intensive & successful propaganda the world has ever seen."

Exactly. They wont be taking off the gloves for those that believe we have to 'give up our freedoms for liberty' they'll be coming off for the terrorists, i.e those against globalisation (with all that it entails) & the health of the Earth (praise be). After that it's the slow squeeeeeze.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."


1/29/2008 10:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only defense against a Troll is to make them invisible. Certain Trolls, use magick to suck up emotional energy for their own purposes. Baiting posts with verbal land minds waiting for emotional explosive responses. Don't play the Game! The only defense against a Troll is to make them invisible. ;) The Fool of Chaos

1/29/2008 10:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

take it sleazy, jerks. i'm outta here.
have fun looking for the golden nuggets of corn.

1/29/2008 10:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Dragonfly said...

I had hoped at least one comment would have been added by anyone regarding Monroe / Bruce / OOB topic, but alas none were found.

I have worked my way through half of the eighteen hemi-sync / Monroe Gateway series CDs and have found the experiences to be enlightening, fun and frustrating.

While I haven't gone completely OOB yet (my goal and current frustration), I have directly experienced mind awake / body asleep where the body goes into sleep paralysis, the rushing sounds come sounding like a train, and one becomes either very heavy, or alternatively, very light. Try as I may I have been unable to mentally roll like a log, pull myself up a rope, fly like a kite or use elevator motion sense to escape. Having had a couple of spontaneous OOBs through the years, I want to experience this fully conscious and aware, to know the truth of it, very different from reading about it ...

The most intense part of the process is to weather through the extreme vibrations the body goes through when the paralysis shutdown has completed ... if trying for the OOB adventure, then the mind and emotions must cross a threshold of trepidation regarding the process, too much excitement and the body awakens, too much concern and the body awakens, too strong an attempt to exit and the body awakens, too little energy and one clicks out and looses consciousness, aka falls asleep ...


1/30/2008 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

During the summer of 2001 a female guest host for Art Bell took this call: the virgin Mary appeared to me last night.. she has removed the veil of protection from America... and not responsible for what was about to happen... because America still practiced abortion and did not pray.

1/30/2008 01:56:00 AM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

Glad Jeff finally posted up something interesting to read. I have to say, all this cut-and-post crap by the Christ-paster and the annoying outpourings from Dr. Accomplishment and his freakin stupid repetitive crap about his latest wankery is a big waste of space. I've worked with skinny-ass fake buddha morons like G - they never get anything done, at work or anywhere else. Going on about little kids is just irritating, though - try that act on in public (hint - someone other than your brother-in-law) and see what kind of trouble you get into.
I initially felt a bit scornful about all this out-of-body stuff, but I must say it brought up mental directions I haven't pointed in for a lot of very material years. Mayhap we are all on the spiritual equivalent of thorazine (is phenothiazine the right name?), unable to see the real trip. Maybe that's on purpose. Maybe the real trip is bad and very wild.

Kind of weirded out by our current world,
Lord Reptor.

1/30/2008 04:09:00 AM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

Pretty great that this Monroe character headed out a'humpin once free of his physical form. You can take the monkey out of the monkey, but you can't take the hump out of the monkey. Power of love, baby.

Glad to be out of the city and back in the freezing woods,
Lord Reptor.

1/30/2008 04:19:00 AM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

PS - hey Jeff, I think Phil Dick's "Faith of our Fathers" (short story, 1966) addresses the substance of your final question of the 28th ('which is the greater crazy?) in a pretty interesting way. If you've got a copy around, have a little read in light of that. I won't drop any spoilers, but Dick's idea in that one might give you pause about seeking the truth. Or not. If curiosity killed the cat, then imagine what it must have done to the monkey.

Enslaved by my twittering brain,
Lord Reptor.

1/30/2008 05:23:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Jeff said...

"In Journeys Out of the Body, he writes of "raising himself out of the physical" and whoring about on the astral plane, eventually having "sex" - a "giddy electrical-type shock" - with with a female friend who, the next week, volunteered the information that she had had an erotic dream about Monroe the same night, in which he had given her "a detailed physical examination." In 16th Century Spain Monroe would have been called an incubus, and he would have been burned alive."

Sounds like a perfect example as to how psychical tricks and lack of (higher) perspective combine to undermine ethics.

1/30/2008 08:00:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Ika..well put. The internet is prolly one of the best trainers that the globalists have going for them. We reach out for the crumbs and find ourselves crumby all over. Much better to network locally where we share the air, the water and the dirt in a most particular tribal dance.

1/30/2008 08:58:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Now that we have a topic, it's mighty good to be on it (the charms of the details of the Mystic Goat's daily existence notwithstanding.) This is going to sound as if I'm coming from the materialist position on this one, but even sounds can be deceiving.

What I'm thinking here is along the lines of what Derek suggested; in his book, Derek has this sort of iconic scene in a high school auditorium where the uptight fascist assistant principal (you know, the one with the anally-neat moustache who used to chase the "freaks" around, trying to land the big bust on them but only ever managing to find the tiniest end of a roach after the little hipsters had blown a fattie right there in homeroom, under the oblivious nose of the geriatric history teacher scribbling his day's rote "instruction" on the board for the calves that would soon begin filing in...) has called an assesmbly for special indoctrination.

This scene is great (and Derek, if you're listening, how about letting the folks read a segment?) because of what it illustrates about Jeff's tardy topic. The guest imprintor is a hypnotist, a very skilled and dangerous man with some alphabet agency connections who puts on a show that demonstrates (among a great many things) how the mental instruction or event is more important than the actual "real" event.

Impossible things happen.

Impossible, that is, if you subscribe to a worldview where we think we understand "all phenomena solely in terms of particle-on-particle interactions, governed by Newton's basic laws of motion and gravitational attraction...classical science came to regard the universe as self-contained, materialistic, and deterministic. But such a closed universe has no room for revelation, miracles, and salvation." (Cantor's Concept of Infinity: Implications of Infinity for Contingence)

Considering what's possible through hypnosis is just one, usually very frightening way of looking outside the boundaries that have been set up for us, but we all know that we are capable of things beyond the ken of science. Maybe we haven't all seen ufos or had to pretend not to have, but we have all had experiences that the labcoats can't explain. Thinking of someone just before they call, for example.

Things that fall under the umbrella of what I like to call "strange entanglements." Highly improbable synchronicities (which tend to increase between entangled parties). These sorts of things are probably the result of becoming attuned or in tune with one another--lovers or people who are very close who finish each other's sentences, etc--but we can also see the opposite effect in people who are diametrically (harmonically?) opposed.

When these folks talk, they can never understand each other, even if they're speaking the same language and are looking at the same thing. By contrast, and I know that my story is not unique, when my wife & I met, we understood each other perfectly, from the first moment, despite only having a handful of words in common (she's from one of those countries hidden behind Goebbels' curtain.)

We all know what's possible when we are isolated, fragmented and mutually incomprehensible (conflict, business as usual in the hostile, mechanistic universe). Why is it that we're so upset when our latent capabilities accidentally leak through the containment vessels in which we live? Those things that our modest guru mentioned somewhere in his spaghetti above--telepathy, tele- and psychokinesis--are all documented, if still held in fear & denial.

The simple answer is that these things present an enormous responsibility--power, in the form of real freedom, something so alien that we can't see it--and with it, the end of the cycles of dominance & submission, aggression & passivity.

This is why I keep recommending The Galactic Milieu by Julian May: it's the only vision I've seen of a (near) future in which we don't shrink from what we are, or one day will be.

If the Hammer doesn't come down first, of course...but that's just more fear, eh?

(crumby all over--awesome phrase, e.)

1/30/2008 10:58:00 AM  
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1/30/2008 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Simulacrum said...

is this post going to be wrapped up because i don't see the connection between astral travel and the empire nervously breaking down. what's interesting is jeff could post a picture of nothing and follow it with a one letter explanation and the fruits would slap his back and say job well done and then interpret this nothing to mean something. ic and eric are great at that. somehow ic would turn the nothing picture and one letter post into a diatribe about artificial scarcity and drew would call it the light bliss of a 4 yr old girl and the perpetual square off would repeat because that's what the simulacrum is all about.

1/30/2008 11:39:00 AM  
Blogger muddy elephant said...

HOLY FUCJKIN SHIT!!! An actual comment/cut and paste that is relevant!!!!!!!!

(I know that may be hard to believe... but here y'all go:)

"...As time passed I began to play a game with water's secret powers; I surrendered my so-called free consciousness and allowed the water to take possession of it for a while.

Little by little this game turned into a profoundly earnest endeavour, because I realised that one could detach one's own consciousness from the body and attach it to that of the water.

When my own consciousness was eventually returned to me, then the water's most deeply concealed psyche often revealed the most extraordinary things to me. As a result of this investigation, a researcher was born who could dispatch his consciousness on a voyage of discovery, as it were.

In this way I was able to experience things that had escaped other people's notice, because they were unaware that a human being is able to send forth his free consciousness into those places the eyes cannot see.

By practising this blindfolded vision, I eventually developed a bond with mysterious Nature, whose essential being I then slowly learnt to perceive and understand..."

--Viktor Schauberger

1/30/2008 11:53:00 AM  
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1/30/2008 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger muddy elephant said...

...continued from above

one more thing, Jeff to answer your question:

"Which returns me to America's ongoing manic episode. Which is the greater crazy: to see things, or to pretend that you don't?"

First off, the greater crazy is most definitely to pretend that you don't see things--most of us usually acquire this type of craziness at around maybe the age of eight or nine:

We stop listening to our natural sense of wonder and imagination and trade it in for "democracy" or some other equally insipid form of society.

This usually leads to a slow antagonism towards reality. Which in some very select cases leads to this very computer screen you are now reading.

But, Jeff the greater greater crazy is to see things and to use them for power over others.

On the other hand the greater greater crazy is also to see things, but to use them to validify the aforementioned antagonism to reality. Yes, this is a direct criticism of your attitude and many others here on this blog.

People like Tesla and Schauberger used their greater crazy to help others and further the overall understanding of the universe.

That is the greatest crazy of all.

1/30/2008 01:29:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

...because that's what the simulacrum is all about.

Is it now, Laddie Jim-Bob? I thought the simulacrum was the official story--you know, that everything must be this way. Sure and ye want to peg me for a one-note singer, but the only scarcity you'll find in that comment was one of imagination...on the part of those who don't care to peek around the curtain.

What are you really saying, that these seemingly inexplicable phenomena that Jeff describes here are just (mass) delusions, quirks, unimportant side-show events to keep the viewers at home enthralled?

Sure, mass delusions happen. (Did I ever tell you the story about the time I was in Ireland and just happened to find meself wandering into one of those scenes where 30,000 of the fey-friendly Irish were witnessing the miracle of the statues of Our Lady moving & crying & such in those grottoes...?)

Now, the "real" simulacrum is one huge--maybe too huge to be believed--over-arching, mass delusion, but only one...the current one.

Before we get into the criteria of what's real and what's not, here's another idea which has recently resurfaced after a long absence:

that the world was not always as it now is.

That even the physical laws which govern the world were once different, that there come once or twice in every epoch transitional periods, shifts where the world is remade such that when the change is complete, the new laws that obtain have always been so.

Except that certain signs, maybe clues, remain to remind us of what once was (or that it might all change again.)

That notion was Giordano Bruno's and to some extent John Dee's. If you have the patience for it, there's a great, great series of books, finally completed by John Crowley (no relation) called The Aegypt Cycle.

Where this idea differs from The Illusion as we're discussing it here is that it's not a construct manufactured by the usual suspects, those ubiquitous PTB, but instead the result of the universe periodically "reinventing itself," for whatever inscrutable reasons it might have.

If you don't care to travel down such paths (and they do change you in ways little and big), you can of course confine your search to the normal parameters, something along the lines of Joe Bageant's simulacrum, but the funny thing is that either way, reality itself is warped, molded, changed; not just the appearance of it.

But even using your own criteria, Anonymous Simulacrum (or at least what we might infer them to be from your complaint), why would the illusion question itself? (Careful: the feedback loops and the echoes of intrigue are truly infinite as they bounce back & forth down the well.)

Happy hunting.



Thanks for that Schauberger quote. It was this part of his methodology--the sitting still and extending his senses into Nature in order to understand her--that most annoyed those rational sausage eaters around him who could only imagine Archimedes' lever...

1/30/2008 01:36:00 PM  
Blogger TOR Hershman said...

When I was sixteen, I saw the “The Light.” Yep, the all-knowing “Light.” At that age, I didn’t know WHAT it was but, being in our CULTure, I was determined to find out.

Anywho, it seems that it was/is nothing more than all/most (sure enough ENOUGH) of the brain’s synapses firing at once to overwhelm the sensory input, with stored images/information, thus leading to a white (all colors mixed) light that overrides immediate visual and audio input.

That's why people in life and death situations also “See” (It’s really ‘not seeing’ – just more recall than the brain can handle) “The Light.” Their brains are searching for an escape, any escape, from the existence threatening position that they’re in.
It’s quite a bit like your CPU hitting 100% usage.

The Light does know ALL that you DO know and the brain-stem and cerebellum ain’t good at graspin’ oblivion, hence – The Light.

BTW: Your “What you don’t know can’t hurt them” is beautifully wry.

Stay on groovin’ safari,

1/30/2008 01:57:00 PM  
Anonymous viktor schauberger said...

Some of the earliest stories about German flying saucers date back to an inventor named Victor Schauberger. Schauberger was born in Austria in 1885 and was considered by many to be a crackpot. Schauberger himself said, "They call me deranged. The hope is they are right..." Schauberger believed that machines could be designed better so that they would be "going with the flow of nature" rather than against it.

One of Schauberger's projects was to produce a flying machine, saucer shaped, that used a "liquid vortex propulsion" system. His theory was that "if water or air is rotated into a twisting form of oscillation, known as a 'colloidal,' a build-up of energy results, which, with immense power, can cause levitation."

According to stories Schauberger built several models (right), one of which was almost five feet in diameter and was powered by a 1/20 hp electric engine. Some reports indicated that one of the models actually flew. There are also reports that, according to letter Victor Schauberger wrote to a friend, a full-sized prototype of one of his designs was constructed using prison labor at the Mauhausen concentration camp. This craft flew on February 19th of 1945 near Prague and obtained an altitude of 45,000 feet in only 3 minutes. The letter goes on to say the prototype was destroyed by the Nazis before it could be captured by the Allies.

what can I say? it was cheap labor. real cheap.

1/30/2008 02:06:00 PM  
Anonymous helen keller said...

i know this is about seeing things, but what about hearing things?

1/30/2008 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sideshow Bob says,
Syncromysticism will connect the dots to the smoke and mirrors the power elite use to project their insanity. The occult tradition can be deciphered. Check out an old Dead song "Unbroken Chain". Listining to the sound, high on the mountain it will drive you insane listining to the wind howl.The previous posts about the chaos of certain posters is true. The more we read their posts, the more chaos. I will edit my perusing, and keep my cool. Magic both sympathetic and contagious is real. So is the light in our eyes. Respectfully, Dennis from Oregon.

1/30/2008 02:26:00 PM  
Anonymous muddy said...

Hey there IC:

You are most welcome.

though, it is you I should thank for introducing Schauberger in the first place.
Here is something that may be interesting to chew on:

Everything you ever wanted to know about mandibular attraction

1/30/2008 02:58:00 PM  
Anonymous richard heinberg said...

that is interesting muddy. very interesting. thanks for the link.

1/30/2008 03:22:00 PM  
Anonymous muddy said...

Wow. I just want to say that I am not a Nazi, ok?(and neither was Schauberger like some dingbats think)

I just came across the mandibular article while doing a search on cooking and evolution, thought it was quite interesting and I posted it. But lo and behold, after I posted the link I checked the source. Here's what it says:

This website discusses various issues related to the preservation of Western culture and the ethnic genetic interests (EGI) of people of European ancestry. This site does not argue that the EGI and cultural concerns of non-European people are less important than those of people of European ancestry.

Whoa, Bucky.. I could not be further from this POV and the articles on this website. Nevertheless it is an interesting site if you are exceedingly open minded and exceedingly closed minded.

I believe in love. For everyone. Period. Thank you and goodnight.

1/30/2008 03:37:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

I got this email a couple of moments ago and thought it was synchronous enough to finish this sentence..


Bill Gallagher to me
show details 9:10 am (3½ hours ago)

i am learning it now, it is a high energy electrolysis that liberates
hydrogen and oxygen for use as a gas for cutting torches and other

the flame has very weird properties

the big diff is that the gas recombines as HO i believe, and its
monatomic, does not happen very much in nature if ever

the 2HO (?) diatomic stuff is also useful as an explosive gas but is
not browns gas --the browns gas is a key to the technology of water,
it unlocks some things, it is not regular stuff

the high energy to make browns gas can be obtained from normal sources
though, like 240 electric will work

the flame is low temp flame, but will puddle steels and rocks quickly
and cannot be stored it migrates through all materials,
so hs to be used as its created --- thats my take so far

one of my uses: the real gig is that normal water is a recording
device of a sort, and it gets all full of cookies all down through

in order to make a new program, to reprogram water, it has to be
cleaned of this memory, wiped, and the only way to do it is to rebuild
it from monatomic level up -- then it can be reprogrammed for various

it is not magic it is science, the programming is accomplished via
energy and or matter in various states and patterns

somebody told me we had to crash and burn the empire last time because
we invented a form of water that would boil at room temp, free steam
power forever, clean, but it got into everything, all other water, and
it was a bad chain reaction, all that is left is this, the dedicated
agricultural planet, the garden, and not even the memories to know
what we once were

1/30/2008 03:50:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

By the way, "Viktor Schauberger" (that you again, Shrub?): old Viktor was taken out of the insane asylum where he was hiding from the Nazis and given one of those "Do this work or be shot!" ultimatums, unlike Werner von Braun and the other Nazi scientists who were party members...

It happened again when he was brought against his will to the US, where he was forced to surrender his life's work, only to die five days later.

The contrast between him and the scientists working for the Military-Industrial Complex is quite interesting. Do you suppose that the guy who invented napalm was forced to at gun point?

What did you do for liberty today?

(The "They call me deranged. The hope is they are right..." line comes from Viktor's explanation that if he wasn't wrong and insane, then the world would one day run out of fresh water...)

1/30/2008 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

then the world would one day run out of fresh water

Scarcity, artificial or otherwise, is convenient when it supports your point, isn't it?

1/30/2008 04:21:00 PM  
Blogger muddy elephant said...

Hoo--I've had too much coffee today. Web surfing(I like to call it research) is coarsing through my veins like bad cocaine. Just thought I'd give a confessional. Followed by another. Please scroll away people.

IC-- and Sounder you might dig this too.

Cuttle man you've done it again.. Your simalcrum link contains a bit that was pure morphic resonance for me:

"It is difficult for people to grasp that we are in an age of corporate dominion just as we were once in an age of domination by royal families, kings and warlords.

Somehow it is hard to equate our tribute rendered to the credit card companies, the insurance companies, the IRS, the power cartels, the mortgage banks, with the kind of bondage it is. Yet we must do these things to be allowed to live in society.

The only other choice is to sleep under a bridge. And these days, whether due to an onsetting depression or creeping wisdom, I often contemplate just that. I really do. Of course I understand that even under a bridge one cannot escape the hologram’s blue flicker issuing from a hundred million encroaching suburban windows.

But like I said, there are still a few of us old bastards out here who remember. And we can still hear the cry of the thrush echoing, still out there shattering galaxies. Freedom is possible."

--Joe Bageant

1/30/2008 04:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"No no no you are missing it! Its all about Victor Schauenberg Victor Schauenberg Victor Schauenberg Victor Schauenberg Victor Schauenberg Victor Schauenberg Victor Schauenberg!!!"

Muddy the waters indeed.... Please commence the rolling of the eyes now.

I do hope you have some thread to tie your two postings together, because I fail to see the connection. What is it you are seeing? Perhaps it is not a question of seeing things and pretending not to, but of pretending to see things. Prentension is a great draw that ought to be resisted as much as possible. So gratifying, as we see looking at these comments above, but useless and self-destructive, like most of man's vices.

I do not think that media concerns are completely diabolical but that in the pursuit of advertising dollars and governmental perqs the effects that are produced foster an evil. No real conspiracy, in other words; it is just self-interest at work, which always has a bad ending for others.

As for OBE, that's great and I'm happy for you, but so what? Spend as much time as you like in the astral plane, but remember that you must return here to earth in order to eat.

1/30/2008 06:00:00 PM  
Blogger muddy elephant said...

I'll do my best to make a point here, anon.

The mud soaked thread connecting Schauberger's "sending forth of consciousness" of water to the "astral projection" of many others is not necessarily that these types of things are that important as far as phenomenon are concerned but it is a question of the intent of those who have connected with the mysterious.

Sharing or hoarding?

No fear or fear?

The more crazy a phenomenon seems, the more (probably exponentially so)the power of that phenomenon to change this flexible reality of ours has.

Most choose to hoard this power. Often seduced by their own awe, drunk in their discovery. I suppose in most cases just trying to protect others who might misuse it innocently or otherwise.

Very few choose to share it. Those who do so freely are usually either ignored,laughed at, shot, or they choose to publish blogs where they then can get ignored,laughed at or shot.

So it goes.

Maybe the point is that magic, so to speak, should be shared, but carefully and guilelessly.And who's to judge? Ahh, it's all just a mess. Maybe we should just be okay with that instead of trying so hard to figure it all out and exploit it.

And yeah, I'm just kinda sometimes making this stuff up as I go. But hey, here's as good as a place as any to do that.

1/30/2008 07:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The book "Opening the Dragon Gate" is an authentic biography of the training of a full-lotus Taoist yoga master. He emphasizes using water to store healing energy. Qigong master Chunyi Lin will actually charge up a client's jug of water -- OVER THE PHONE -- and this can be continually taken as a very powerful healing treatment.

My boss asked me today what I read yesterday so I talked about how amino acids, the stepping stone to DNA, actually come from interstellar space clouds full of complex molecules from supernova. The amino acids are created through ultralight radiation of hot cloud dust which is then stored in the ice-balls of comets. Earlier in the solar system more comets bombarded Earth creating both our seas and the complex molecular chemicals that kick started single-cell organisms.

My boss, working at Clean Water Action, then asked:

But where does the water come from?

At the time I explained how most of the universe is hydrogen and oxygen is the third most common element, even though it's only in the last 1% of common matter in the universe.

We had to get back to work at this point but then I remembered physics professor JL Finney's research on the macro-quantum tetrahedral resonance of water, giving it anomalous qualities.

The tetrahedron is of course just the full-lotus, utilizing complimentary opposite harmonics, just as Gurdjieff taught, using hydrogen and oxygen.

1/30/2008 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's great, but other than the victor schaenberg stuff and rambling over pretense, I wasn't speaking to any of the above comments, 99% of which are either completely disjointed or their author lacks all ability to communicate with others.

So, again I simply ask, of Jeff Wells, what is the connection between media diversion and OBE?

1/30/2008 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous chemtrail solution said...

ericswan, you don't need a Browns Gas generator to erase the memory of water, just a vortex. You don't even need that vancy device to do it for you, you can just agitate your glass (or bottle) of water counter-clockwise until a vortex forms for a few moments while you cast your intention, Emoto-style, for the water to be purified, cleansed, reset, and to do the same for you when you drink it.

1/31/2008 01:00:00 AM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...


1/31/2008 01:31:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Muddy, way to use that greater crazy phrase. Synapses are firing, but alas the call to work preempts their organization.

1/31/2008 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous humble Aztec indian Juan Diego in 1531 A.D. said...

There's a major problem with the wholly distorted premise of this quite misleading post by Geoff: to wit,

The first appartition of the Our Lady of Guadelupe, Mary as seen a blue robe or habit, was reported to Spanish friars by the Aztec Juan Diego in 1531.

Maria de Jesus Agreda (the Lobhsang Rampa of Inquisitorial Espana) was not born until 1602, i.e. 71 years later. Ample time during which the story of Juan Diego's visions of blue-clad Guadelupe spread throughout the occupied New World (sic), and back to Spain, long before Maria Agreda ever grew up to hear about it, and use it as fuel for her polemics.

A very distored timeline was presenting, resulting in quite a misleading piece by Geoff.

No surprise there.

1/31/2008 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous rrapt said...

All this stuff on water is extremely interesting. For me the "odd" properties like memory lead directly into the premise that Earth is a living being. With a bit more investigation, using the right parameters it may (should) be determined that all of life here is interconnected. It follows that each tree harvested for pulpwood, fish netted, etc. requires a guidance based on the good of the whole including us humans.

I have a skinny little book on water which I will share after I dig it up. Part of it is micro-photos of snow and ice formations showing how crystals are formed according to the water molecule's past experience. There is more too but I have to read through it again before I can give a decent review.

1/31/2008 11:54:00 AM  
Blogger Derek said...

I.C. said,

"What I'm thinking here is along the lines of what Derek suggested; in his book, Derek has this sort of iconic scene in a high school auditorium where the uptight fascist assistant principal... has called an assembly for special indoctrination.

"This scene is great (and Derek, if you're listening, how about letting the folks read a segment?) because of what it illustrates about Jeff's tardy topic. The guest imprintor is a hypnotist, a very skilled and dangerous man with some alphabet agency connections who puts on a show that demonstrates (among a great many things) how the mental instruction or event is more important than the actual 'real' event.

"Impossible things happen.

"Impossible, that is, if you subscribe to a worldview where we think we understand "all phenomena solely in terms of particle-on-particle interactions, governed by Newton's basic laws of motion and gravitational attraction..."

Anything for you, I.C.... Here's the excerpt you were referring to, although I doubt many people will be interested:

An I.C. suggested selection from CHAPTER 15 of Crash Gordon and the Mysteries of Kingsburg.

And here are a few author-selected passages that might be even more relevant to Jeff's post, the first from Page 574-575 (Lloyd is talking here):

"...those ‘weird coincidences’ just keep piling up once you start paying attention. It’s almost as if the collective unconscious is intentionally deploying familiar literary devices such as foreshadowing, shared circumstances, and a limited cast of central characters as a way of stimulating greater reading comprehension for those who, in the timeless leisure of the afterlife, choose to check out the historical facts from the Library of Akashic Records.”

Skip asks, “So you’re saying we get a library card when we die?”

“It makes a certain amount of sense, doesn’t it? If consciousness survives death, wouldn’t your curiosity about life remain intact? Wouldn’t you want to pursue further research? And where’s the best place to do research?”

“A library.” Gordon, for one, certainly knows that.

“So when we’re dead we can just go to this Ass-Kicking Library place and look under M for Manson and get the whole story?” Skip sounds like he desperately wants it to be true.

Lloyd answers, “Someday we’ll know the truth about everything, I hope. I’m also hoping the truth will reveal that our lives had meaning…. I’ve often thought of the holographic universe as a vast Borgesian riddle working itself out in the minds of each and every one of us. However, the trouble with such a universe, as I see it, is that misinterpretation can create a shared reality that seems just as real at times as reality-in-truth—provided enough people believe in it. Think of the Holocaust and how fascist propaganda churned out fake doctrines of xenophobic hatred that became real enough to generate a creeping moral leprosy, leading to the death of millions. Similar acts of bad faith have occurred in America and other parts of the world as well—like the trumped-up Gulf of Tonkin Incident, for example, which led to the escalation of the war in Vietnam. When the crazed minds of panting maniacs and poisonous buffoons meet in synchrony, they create an alternate reality—a conspiracy of false consciousness—that provides them with the bent justifications they need to murder, rape, and steal. And the innocents of the world suffer for it.”

And then--after Gordon has had time to mull over Lloyd's little lecture on conspiracies of false consciousness and he starts to wonder: Can you also lie about a good thing in the hope that it will become real?--there's this synchronistic bit about Andrija Puharich, the Star Kids program, and Brown's Gas from Page 586:

Lloyd says, “The Star Kids program lasted until August of 1978, when Puharich’s Turkey Farm burned to the ground. The cause was arson. I’ve heard two theories about who set the blaze. One suspect was a traumatized Space Kid who told authorities that the aliens had been harassing him.”

“We should use that as an excuse at school next week instead of saying the dog ate our homework,” D.H. suggests.

Lloyd talks right over him: “Puharich, on the other hand, blamed the CIA. He fled to Mexico after telling friends that he suspected a rogue faction within the agency wanted to quash his research into alternative energy sources. He claimed he’d invented a device for splitting water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen—or Brown’s gas.”

“I’ve got your Brown’s gas right here, buddy,” Jimmy says ominously.

Lloyd ignores him as well. “When the Brown’s gas was burned in an internal combustion engine—with steam as its only by-product—the energy produced was far greater than the energy expended to split the water molecules in the first place. It was free energy, in other words. Imagine the implications of such a device. It could solve all the world’s energy issues. No more burning fossil fuels, no more pollution.”

“No more Mexicans riding bicycles!” Jimmy shouts, getting into the spirit of Lloyd’s discourse, if not its logic. “They’d all have low-riders powered by water from the mighty Rio Grande!”

“You may laugh, but I’ve been hearing rumors that Puharich recently filed for a patent on the whole set-up and now his vehicle of choice for tooling around Mexico is a customized Winnebago fueled by water from a common garden hose—or in more remote locations, by rain and melted snow.”

“They’ve got snow in Mexico?” Skip asks, baffled. “I’ve never met a beaner who could ski.”

“So why isn’t this Puharich pendejo a billionaire by now?” Twinker asks while simultaneously jabbing her elbow into Skip’s brawny chest.

“The short and relatively insincere answer is that the oil industry has some very powerful lobbyists,” Lloyd says. “A more thoughtful answer is that it would mean saying good-bye to our current geo-political order. Third World countries would be on more of an equal footing with First World countries. A source of low-cost, pollution-free energy would transform every aspect of life on this planet for the better: manufacturing, housing, transportation, the ability to grow food and desalinate water—you name it. The artificial poverty and scarcity being created by the withholding of such technologies would be eliminated. Unfortunately, there are some very rich and powerful people in the world who don’t want to see that happen.”

Gordon feels like he’s just coming out of a light trance. He asks, “Are there really people so selfish that they’d screw-over almost everyone else on the whole planet, just so they can keep making the big bucks? I mean, aren’t they already rich enough?”

“The kind of people I’m talking about would jeopardize the welfare of their own children if it meant pulling ahead in some small way. And they’re not all Boston Brahmin spooks or international financiers, either. They’re policeman, doctors, lawyers, and civil engineers…. There are more of them than you’d ever imagine. You can find them almost anywhere. Even in Kingsburg.”

“I kind of knew that already,” Gordon says, feeling weary. “I guess I just wanted to hear it from you…. Whatever happened to those poor Star Kids, anyway?”

“Most of them are no doubt still involved in black budget operations of one kind or another, whether they’re aware of that fact, or not. Judging by what I’ve seen lately, Puharich’s shadowy overseers were quite impressed with his results. They’ve rolled out an aggressive new program, nationwide, to create more Star Kids—and they’re not just teaching them remote viewing anymore.”

1/31/2008 12:22:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Well just can't make that stuff up..right?

1/31/2008 12:42:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Open e-mail sent January 31, 2008 to:
Nobel Peace Prize Laureate, Al Gore, Generation Investment

Field McConnell and David Hawkins, Forensic Economists at Hawks' CAFE

Copies for reference:
Representative Duncan Hunter, 52nd District of California
Bruce McConnell, McConnell Int.
US Vice-President, Richard Cheney,
Canadian Prime Minister, Stephen Harper
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Dear 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Laureate, Al Gore:

Re: Clintons' Laborers' and the Fragging of America

Hawks CAFE believes Bill and Hillary Clinton saved the mobbed-up Laborers' union from a 1995 RICO trusteeship and went on to equip militants in various LIUNA locals to `frag' (assassinate) climate deniers and top officials in the American government through 9/11.

Our research indicates that the two Clintons and LIUNA bosses recruited hit teams to modify Boeing passenger aircraft for the 9/11 war games, guide al-Qaeda decoy-and-drone maneuvers, `frag' first responders, including 343 New York City firefighters and Captain Gerald DeConto (duty officer of Pentagon's Naval Command Center), remove evidence of sabotage, arson and insurance fraud from Ground Zero, launder kickbacks to conspirators through KPMG tax shelters and LIUNA pension funds, and, last but not least, extort top officials in Congress and the U.S. Department of Justice into a terrified silence.

Why not take a break from reducing the 0.0019% of the atmosphere occupied by anthropogenic carbon dioxide to protect us from climate change and tell us what you know about fragging to protect us from the Clintons, the Mob and the Laborers'?

Yours sincerely,

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1/31/2008 12:47:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Anonymous said...
then the world would one day run out of fresh water

Scarcity, artificial or otherwise, is convenient when it supports your point, isn't it?

Well, now, that all depends on what “my” point is, doesn’t it? If we were talking about the difference between a world based on abundance, which we have not known within historical memory, unless you want to include such hypotheticals as Eden, Atlantis and the days of King Coal…and then in the Gilded Age, when railroads, mining and oil became the lever they used to ensure their control over markets and geopolitics…and who still continue to profit from the dispossessed state of the common man.

Of course I’m leaving out huge and important sectors of the Complex.

Who can even measure the effects of the war profiteers whose bellies bloated, leech-like from their War to End all Wars and their Good War and their Stop the Dominoes from Falling Wars and their highly lucrative modern-day “intractable conflicts”?

And then there’s mainstream, waterboy-for-the-Complex science, of course, with its incestuous daughters medicine and pharmacology…

When you stop to consider that these “interests” (such a polite term, isn’t it?) have actively colluded & conspired to arrange not only profits for themselves which we have no way of calculating (what, their IRS returns?), but have even been able to pick up the phone and order covert operations and the publicized, institutionalized slaughters we call “wars” (not to mention arranging assassinations and phony elections, here & abroad), then you can’t look at the state the world’s in and say,

“Oh, that’s just self-interest operating—no one’s really intended that things should come to this.”

Sure, we’re only working at the jobs that are out there and “voting” in the elections that are presented to us for our participation, etc, but how did these things come to be? Were they really inevitable or “natural” when we know that so much of the world as it is was engineered in this way for someone’s power & wealth?

Look at the impact of the Cold War, an entirely fraudulent enterprise, a deception of the first magnitude (and yet so shabbily & transparently arranged)—how can we ignore the artificiality of the whole damn thing?

If you look back at the foundation of these illusions, it’s fairly easy to see not only how the wool was pulled over our eyes but also how different things could have been.

Since Schauberger was brought into this, I’m going to relate a bit more of his story and how it relates to our present circumstance, but there are many turning points, pivotal moments where things could have gone any number of ways until the probability waves of history collapsed into the forms that we know. (With a nudge, nod & wink from the movers & shakers and the unwitting complicity of…us. Dave West’s Low Dishonest Decade is another brilliant snapshot of this kind of planned unfolding that also occurred in the 1930s, a most crucial decade in many ways.)

On the other side of the Atlantic, with fascist and other openly undemocratic governments installed in more than half the continent at this time, events “collapsed” in a very similar pattern.

When Viktor was summoned to Berlin in 1934 to explain his theories to the little madman whom the “interests” who put him on the throne thought they could control, it was because of the attention generated by his only book, Our Senseless Toil: Causes of the World’s Crises. In that book, Schauberger claimed that the Rhine river could be made healthy again, that it wouldn’t need to be dredged anymore in order for shipping to reach as far as it once had before erosion from unsustainable agriculture and logging had silted its bed.

His appointment with Hitler (and his science advisor, the famous Max Planck) was only scheduled for 30 minutes. Instead, Viktor took 11 hours telling Hitler exactly what was wrong with modern industrial design, water policy, and why his “1000 year Reich” would be lucky to last ten. To his face, mind you. (He was very nervous on the train ride from Austria, still un-Anschlussed at the time, but had achieved a deep inner calm by deciding that what he would say was simply the truth of how Nature really worked—it had nothing to do with him.)

After listening to this impertinent lecture during which Schauberger called Hitler’s experts “fools” and “short-sighted lackeys” because the whole fascist notion of controlling Nature was certain to result in the worst catastrophe in our long history of them—that we had everything ass-backward and that what we should really do is to study Nature and then copy how She works (today’s new fields of biomimicry, biophysics, biomorphic design, etc)—Hitler had had enough and asked the great Max Planck his opinion of Viktor’s treasonous theories.

Planck, wherever his soul has migrated, probably still regrets his answer:

“Science has nothing to do with Nature.”

Viktor was allowed to return home, although all copies of his book were quickly confiscated & burned, and for a time thought he might have escaped the Nazis. Of course he didn’t, because when things started to go badly for the fascists, a new “occulted” (as in “hidden” or secret) science program was begun and his name was brought up again…and the rest is, well, another stupid, shitty, unnecessary story.

Kind of like today’s headlines, actually (or headlines as they would be if the media had some motivation for discussing the plight of the dispossessed and their unnecessarily threatened planet.)

Many of the doomsayers tell us that it’s now too late—James Lovelock, who claims to have invented the concept of Gaia, an earth which is “alive” through its great interconnected web of sentient life, has apparently gone over to the Dark Side and is now not only whoring his credibility for the nuclear lobby but has also taken the elitist survivalist stance (Malthus, Machiavelli, and Pop-Ecology, halfway down the page) of such famous doomers as Paul Ehrlich whose influential Population Bomb told us not to feed the poor anymore, since they’re only going to eat up our resources like the predictable Malthusian rats he sees them as.

While Jeff’s posts during the past six months might seem to be despairing of the current trajectory, the fact is that he’s still questioning the illusion (or throwing up the contents of his stomach at it). I’m at least heartened that he’s still open to considerations of how & why certain phenomena refuse to fit within the framework we’re told is the only one.

"Miracles do not happen in contradiction to nature, but only in contradiction to what is known in nature."--St. Augustine


Thanks, Derek!

I hope they do follow that link to the hypnotism assembly--it's one of my favorite sections and it does get to what Jeff is scratching at here...and thanks for these other passages for their serial relevancies.

Maybe they'll even digest the whole book...look at me: I'm still sane. (I know, bad publicity, but I heard that was an oxymoron.)


1/31/2008 01:58:00 PM  
Blogger muddy elephant said...

Hey thanks Sounder--

It's good to have your synapses firing along here--keep those neurons ablazin.

1/31/2008 02:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK the issue is OBEs and "media transformation." The current contention is that it's due to a "vortex."

In fact Schauberger just discovered the same principle that is in the science news in the last couple days ago.

DNA has "telepathy" through COMPLEMENTARY OPPOSITE electrostatic charges.

Now the question remains -- "how could this media transformation enable instanteous space and time travel?"

The answer is that energy conservation does not rely on a "zero-point" quantum field because quantum mechanics is dependent on the technology necessary to measure the momentum of light reflection. In other words while the quantum wave potential is instanteous the information is assumed to be random until the probability wave is constructed using momentum and position measurements due to observations with technology. Because of this quantum uncertainty, as is the cause with WATER, as a "macro-quantum molecule," space-time causality is not violated, even though locality is violated. The new system of measurement is called "Type III nonlocality" because it includes the consciousness of the scientist along with the infinite information that is instanteous (zero time) and the technology used to create the classical conversion of the quantum potential wave.

So what's the secret for how Nature enables OBEs?

SOUND as formless awareness. Light does not have mass but it does have momentum, as per relativity. But momentum relies on a "positive constant" of time as distance with velocity as speed, from Descartes original equation Force equals Momentum times Velocity so that at twice the time there is twice the speed. This ASSUMES that momentum is measured as distance or geometry. Relativity just converted time back into mass as space curvature.

Now we can say that such curvature (the tetrahedron of water or the full-lotus body position or the black hole-white hole WORM HOLE -- the oroborus) -- is just a demonstration of the creation of energy from the annhilation of matter (actually reversed in time as anti-matter).

But again this process, using GEOMETRY or visual-dominant perception, limits the observation of time as a measuring process using technology. This means that Schauberger's technology, just like all other quantum technology, is just a continuation of classical physics with an increased tension of mass as inversely proportional to energy frequency. This process of negentropy using quantum technology STILL destroys ecology, inherently, because it relies on increased tension as mass, through measuring time as distance.

Originally time as frequency means there is not a positive coupling (what became Newton's inverse square law). So under tension, starting with Archytas, as an extension of cipher symmetric logic, the weight on a string doubles the frequency as 4 times the tension of the stretched string.

Under the Law of Pythagoras when the string length is increased then the frequency is halved -- as an inverse ratio. The problem again with the Law of Pythagoras is that it relies on a complementary opposite harmonics -- JUST LIKE NATURE -- without a one-to-one correspondence between cipher phonetic symbols and number (as geometry). Which means you can't use "divide and average" statistics with the Law of Pythagoras, nor can you use the commutative property with the real number system.

Instead we rely on the empirical truth of listening to sound -- pure inference -- which then creates resonance of FEMLAE FORMLESS AWARENESS (the source of Nature) and this ionizes the body's chemicals (just like the electrostatic complementary opposite dynamics just discovered for DNA). As the ionization continues then light is created which turns the "black hole" of the brain, through the pineal gland, into a white hole via the female formless awareness "worm hole," creating a permanent parallel universe (compared to modern reality at least).

The female formless awareness worm hole in science is just the psychological projection of this repressed truth of Nature -- discovered through pure logical inference of the I-thought, not through a visual-based means of measurement.

1/31/2008 03:10:00 PM  
Anonymous I'm Wearing My Uniform said...

Thanks for setting these imbecils straight, Drew. I knew you would come to the rescue. I know you can't see this, or maybe you can if you don't pretend not to, but I am mutually climaxing with you. No man has ever made me feel this way before. You're special, Drew, not like these other fellas. They're just boys among a real man.

1/31/2008 03:32:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

mDrew..You might have checked the link I directed to Derek before you spouted your reactionary views on relativity and your 4 D conclusions on sound and light. You are missing the point of ZPE, Pythagoras, Maxwell, Brown's gas and this thread. Try to put together one post without falling on your face and female formlessness. Plutarch, Maxwell, Bearden et al., have been pointing you into the the L..(do you see the 90 degree angle in the L..letter?) The link above has Maxwell's equation. I've never seen it posted ever and wonder if you and your cohorts feel up to tackling the subject of QUATERNARION physics? Schauberger and Puharich and Brown are about the material change of water through implosion which, as IC has pointed out, is NATURE. We are mostly water and water is two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen. It's not female and it's not formless.

1/31/2008 04:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Shoeless Joe Jackson said...

What does Brown's gas have to do with horny astral travel and the nervous break down of the empire? Drew's no more out in left field then the rest of you.

1/31/2008 04:22:00 PM  
Blogger Derek said...

Oh, fuck it.... For the sake of clarity, I've reposted my GGG satire
on my website in response to Drew's snarky criticism below:

GGG said,

"Derek when you posted your faux "O at a D" recreation in NYC I responded in detail with the errors you had made.

"What is projected out of the pineal gland is bliss-light or love-light. Studies of chi, according to Yan Xin's website, indicate that transmissions are made of matter, energy and information. The key factor is that the projection is YANG energy based on complementary opposite harmonics -- so it's blissful electrochemical energy (yin matter) that is projected through electromagnetic energy as light (yang energy).

"It's NOT fluid-based, as you and IC seem inclined to think."

Drew, if you take the time to re-read my "faux 'O at a D' recreation" you'll see that I refer to my pineal gland projections as "Yang energy" and "Blissful Living Love-Radiance of Infinite Divine Being." Obviously, I know they're not fluid-based, and I'm sure I.C. does, too (despite his unquenchable Germanic passion for sausages and doughnuts).

You may be an obfuscating, horny mystic dipshit, but I have nothing but kind thoughts for you, GGG. Whenever I think of you sitting in full-lotus in a Minnesota Taco Bell, it just cracks me up. I'm glad you exist (in the same way I'm glad that the character Ignatius J. Reilly exists in John Kennedy Toole's A Confederacy of Dunces) and it's a shame we're not going to do that book together, but I know now that it would be absolutely impossible to work with you. Your "small universe" doesn't have enough room for the rest of us.

1/31/2008 05:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Great Galactic God said...

I met a stripper with a Three Stooges tattoo the other night at a bar called Tigress. She bitch slapped one of my companions hard while she gave her a ferocious lap dance. Threatened my balls with spike heeled platform shoes. Hissed in my face that she was into edgeplay. She got giant fish hooks stuck through her back with which they hung her bleeding body from the ceiling till her screams careened off the hard brick dungeon walls. They pierced her labia with five-inch needles. She worked for Lloyd Kaufman at Troma Films for years. I’ve heard what that’s like. The lady could take some pain.

Edgeplay. There’s a word I hadn’t heard before. Playing on the edge. Risking injury or even death for the sake of a thrill, a charge, an orgasm that will finally live up to all the lies they tell you about orgasms, a white hot bone rattling explosion of raw nerve endings that’ll blot out forever all the darkness at the center of your heart…

Look. We all do what we do to find our way in this wacky old world, to satisfy what we think needs satisfying, to make some money. It’s not my business to pass judgment on how she felt she needed to live her life. I’m glad there are people like her around. It keeps things interesting.

But you want edgeplay? I got edgeplay for you.

Zazen is edgeplay with your immortal soul. Zazen is edgeplay with God.

The atheists got all bent out of shape a few weeks ago when I suggested they were full of shit. What do you know about atheism? You sit there, stock still without even a dominatrix to torment you and thus distract you from what’s real. You spend a few years right there, nose to nose with yourself. Then you can come back and talk to me about whether God exists or not. Until that day you haven’t earned the right to tell me shit about God. So fuck off with all your oh so well thought out words and words and words and words. Atheists are full of shit.

There is no God and He is your creator.

If you want your meditation gentle and sweet, with a soothing, stilling voice to ease you through, stay away from Zen. But if you’re into real edgeplay stop by my place some Saturday morning and I’ll show you how it’s done.

But watch out. This kind of edgeplay doesn’t come baring fangs and out for blood. Nobody will yell at you, nobody will smack you with a stick, nobody will even tell you when you get all the steps wrong. It’s very warm here, very friendly and welcoming. All smiles. We’ll even brew you some tea and tell you lousy old jokes. No need for posturing. That’s because we know who the hardest mistress of all is. We’re not even going to try and match the punishment she can mete out. The best we can do is point you in her direction and let you decide whether you’d rather run away whimpering with your tail between your legs.

Most people haven’t got what it takes to face themselves. That’s not a judgment call. That’s just a fact of life. We’ll face anything else to avoid the terror of confronting our own hearts and minds. Leather restraints and single tail bullwhips don’t even come close. The fundamental nature of your own being? Now that’s scary. That can cut you up good. Slice you to ribbons and not even break a sweat.

I’ve never been interested in any kind of meditation that wasn’t edgeplay. I never had a whole lot of patience with people wanted to guide me through some kind of a process. “Envision the white light of the cosmos enveloping your body…” Fuck that. Don’t give me your pictures and stories. Every religious nut I met — and I met a few of them — had pictures and stories they wanted to stuff into my head and teach me how to regurgitate on command. As if God cared whether I could recite their stupid fairy tales when ordered to do so. They could stuff their stories. I wanted to slash away everything I didn’t need and get down to the raw burning core. The only way to strip away everything is to strip away everything.

The Zen way is excruciatingly slow. At least when they hang you from hooks in your back they take you down after a few minutes. We’ll just leave you sitting there twisted up like a pretzel for days or weeks at a time. It’ll take for-fucking-ever before you even have a clue why you’re wasting all this time staring at walls. Quick fixes are for hyperactive retards. If you’re looking for a speedy solution don’t let the door smack your ass on the way out.

But the scary stuff is just one side of the picture. We’re all afraid of reality. All of us. Me, too. But the truth about reality is that it’s never as scary as we imagine it. I suspect this is what people like my stripper friend discover in their edgeplay. When you actually come face to face with the things that scare you, usually you that what you thought was Satan come to burn you in the fires of damnation is really just Gene Simmons, a nice old Jewish man in freaky make-up.

Reality is always the best place to be. The truth is always the best thing to see. There are never any exceptions. You can’t run away anyhow. So why waste your energy trying? And God? God isn’t a million zillion miles away on his diamond throne somewhere in outer space. God is the wind on your face. God is the sky as your reflection. God is that something buried in your head that you always thought was you. It’s not you. There is no you. That thing you think is you, actually belongs to the universe. And the universe will take it back one day. On that day it will be just like you never existed at all. Cuz you never did. But the universe will carry on forever. And so will that something you always thought of as yourself. And so will God. So there.

Ms. Edgeplay stripper wrenched my friend’s nipples and stage-whispered to her how wet she was getting. As if I couldn’t hear. Humped her leg like a dog in heat. God wasn’t far away at all. If I ever doubted Her presence She showed it to me by grabbing my cock and telling me how She wanted to feel it inside Her.

There is no God and she dances for tips at Tigress.

2/01/2008 02:05:00 AM  
Blogger plectic said...

One of the best pics followed by one of the worst posts. No meat to it.

2/01/2008 04:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe so, but the comments haven't changed one bit!

Thank God fpr the little scroll tab on the right or I'd wear out my mousewheel.

2/01/2008 05:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe so, but the comments haven't changed one bit!

Thank God fpr the little scroll tab on the right or I'd wear out my mousewheel.

2/01/2008 05:11:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Muddy said...

“First off, the greater crazy is most definitely to pretend that you don't see things--most of us usually acquire this type of craziness at around maybe the age of eight or nine:

We stop listening to our natural sense of wonder and imagination and trade it in for "democracy" or some other equally insipid form of society.”

I think I was locked into the greatest crazy when I was seven years old. I found myself staring down at a 1917 penny that was one of three cents for my milk money for the day. I had no idea why, but it felt significant. It really felt significant about an hour later when our school was cancelled for the day because our president had been shot. I realized this later as Reality tapping me on the shoulder and saying; ‘No, the CTB do not control everything, they are rather, heavily invested in making you think they do.’

We have barely scratched the possibilities within reality. This our best teacher whom we mostly get pissed and frustrated with as it challenges our preconceptions.

“This usually leads to a slow antagonism towards reality.”

It will be nice when people learn to do better than lashing out as they confront or work with their inner cranial dialogue.


“But, Jeff the greater greater crazy is to see things and to use them for power over others.

On the other hand the greater greater crazy is also to see things, but to use them to validify the aforementioned antagonism to reality. Yes, this is a direct criticism of your attitude and many others here on this blog.”

Ouch, and yet things seem so twisted, it is hard to fault people for being frustrated.

And if it sets folk to seeking it can’t be all-bad. At any rate Muddy, this antagonism toward reality idea is worth pondering. My daddy, like many others got beat up by life pretty good. He was a good man trying to do what was right; still he got beat up. His coping skills and basic understanding were corrupted by the sins of his fathers. He wanted to be ‘saved’, until he found out how that game was a null set also. How do you not look down on others with this ‘saved’ perspective? Follow the prescription, whose prescription? Well it would not have authority if it were not Gods prescription. The man behind that mask has no part; this stuff comes from God directly. Yeah right. My dad got eaten up by his cognitive dissonance, but at least he tried to separate God from his representatives.

2/01/2008 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous van Gogh said...

Sorry, Derek, but that latest post by Drew was nothing short of brilliant. True artistry is impossible to coral. It's like herding a cat. IC couldn't touch what Drew just posted, if they were indeed Drew's words.

2/01/2008 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous the letter r said...

you forgot one more of me in your spelling of the synonym for herd.

2/01/2008 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Eve said...

Has anyone seen my blog? I seem to have misplaced it. I hope the Dep't of Homeland Security is not involved.

2/01/2008 09:15:00 AM  
Blogger Derek said...

"There is no God and she dances for tips at Tigress."

That sort of hard-boiled talk is so unlike you, Drew....

Whatever happened to the worm hole in your pineal gland and splooging out bliss-light all over the unconsenting and underaged patrons of Minnesota fast food franchises?

If you're going to rebuke someone with a cut-and-paste job, the least you can do is acknowledge the original author--in this case, Brad Warner, author of Hardcore Zen.

2/01/2008 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well of course "parallel" universe should not be construed in the geometry sense -- unless we mean the convergence as a worm hole -- the tai-chi symbol as the snake goddess (which can not be visualized only listened to).

And Derek there's no need for me to "repost" my critique of your attempt at satire. All we have to do is return to your latest lower emotional outbreak:

"splooging" (nice one Derek)

Now some my contend this verb to supposedly describe my "O at D" ability does not refer to a "fluid" -- but I think it's fairly obviously that you're referring to




Tsk. Tsk.

Just to be fair, when the typical male climaxes that switches his nervous system to the sympathetic or stress system. Full-lotus is the female climax using the vagus nerve and the full-lotus harmonics continue to ionize the hormones.

Btw -- breaking science news: male sperm can now be created from female bone marrow (plus some vitamins, etc.)

Now then, last night around 5 pm I got my hands on C.S. Nott's "Teachings of Gurdjieff: A Pupil's Journal." This was a "chance" discovery and even Mustaphas noticed that I was completely immersed in the book. He thought Gurdjieff on the cover was Ghandi. haha. I stayed till the midnight closing at his cafe and then I ended up at the anarchist cafe, as it's open till 4 a.m. I got waylaid by an old cafe buddy there who gave me a detailed report on his two week trip to Beijing last November.

By 2 a.m. I had the book pretty much done. There's a couple chapters left. It's one of the best reports on Gurdjieff out there.

Anyway before I joined this old buddy who had been behind me in line I had a nice argument with the cafe worker as he stated that:

"science is fun."

I pointed out we have 20 years of water left and science is destroying the world.

He said -- but there's pure science. I said no, math starts with dissecting a line, stating infinity starts here and ends there -- it's not pure because it's dealing with material reality as magnitude.

We went on like this talking about music harmonics, antisemitism, literacy as left brain dominance, logical inference, etc.

But he said one thing that was the juggernaut. He claimed that mammals were

"inefficient hunters."

Anyway we parsed this down and strangely I agreed with him that some hunters are "inefficient."

This morning in full-lotus it hit me why I agreed to this absurdity. I had picked up a 1960s "how to hunt" type book at another cafe and had come across the same phrase in regards to some fish. They were dismissed as:

"inefficient hunters."

This is typical of the biology 101 class he was taking. I remember from that college class how the economic supply and demand model was applied to animals! I had written a paper for my environmental econ class called "the incorrect supply and demand model" yet here it was propping up the current mass extinction rate of ecology.

The problem again being that we project this "time as distance" using "divide and average" or equal-tempered logarithms to ecology -- what total absurdity!

There's no "inefficient hunters" because ecology uses something called "sound pictures" for complex social behavor -- as a sensory integration system. How is this measured? It can't be -- just like the "time frequency uncertainty principle" that does not enable science to trace the source of sound, so too is ecology inherently free from the herd mentality called science.

So then how do birds see magnetic fields, as has now been proven? The same way people have OBEs, bending space time, through resonating the pineal gland using complementary opposite harmonics.

2/01/2008 02:51:00 PM  
Blogger muddy elephant said...

Sounder-- great stories of your own experiences... As far as said antagonism goes I just want to say that it is most definitely a huge ventricle in the heart of the artist.--especially the really funny ones.


I am feeling quite combobulated today.


So Drew, are you autistic? You've got this savant thing going on. By all indications you are brilliant, but your unusual and perhaps inspiring(to some?!) knowledge seems tragically... um, not sure what the right word is .... impotent.

I live in Minneapolis too. Maybe I'll drop by one of your haunts and buy you a Summit or perhaps a nachos belgrande. Or maybe not. I used to have a gambling problem and probably shouldn't hang out with someone who spends so much time in Vagus.

2/01/2008 03:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since we all here sharing personal experiences, I like to share my own as well please to say. I got up in the morning here in Minn. and dropped 3/4 gallon of excrement in toilet. After fantasy of giving people shot in arm like doctor on hospital I fed pet bird. I then remembered that I forgot to use paper to clean myself. Oops! I remember though plan in my mind to force girl in restaurant to have orgasm but police drive car see me. I change plan to improve behavior. In pretend girl thank me too! Well I could go on but this is sum up day two day ago. I hurry now go People Court 7:30.

2/01/2008 05:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Muddy Elephant -- yes today I switched to my "Garden of Eden" diet -- fruit and vegetables and nuts and spirulina and cayenne, etc. -- because the vagus nerve transduces anerobic bacteria along with the bliss hormones. I was inspired by my buddy's story of the Buddhist restaurants in Beijing and how good their food is -- fruit trees along the great wall, etc. Also I had to use way too much tea tree oil to kill off the meat bacteria, etc. and then peppermint to cover up the tea tree oil. haha.

The Chinese qigong master I studied under eats one little meal of vegetables a day and fasts one day a week. Guess I have no choice but to move towards what's called a "modified bigu diet."

It's been great today -- my gums are hardly leaching any bacteria at all! I've had a couple O at a Ds already and my earlier food already vacated my bowels! bananas, orange, slmonds and spirulina and cayenne. Smooth!

Even the milk from my Somalian tea today is annoying me -- a coated tongue and slight lactose upset stomach. No big deal -- it's just that I'm a true punk: Civilization is rotten! So be prepared! haha. The Muslims are weirded out that I won't take sugar in my tea. haha.

I don't drink beer but if you see a dude reading in full-lotus in a cafe -- with a big beard, that's me. Dark-rimmed glasses, blissful smile. haha.

I prefer hanging with the Muslims though as they're better disciplined with the mind-body harmonization, albeit fairly unconsciously. I'm at MCTC right now just in case you're stalking me! haha.

Best of all I'll show you my right side vagus nerve pulsating -- and I'll shoot energy at you. haha. Yesterday at work I sat in full-lotus, shot energy at my coworker as he was asking about the tea tree oil (I had ate a clove of garlic earlier with my meat strombolli and I reeked). I showed him the vagus nerve pulsating and he was intrigued (as have been several others I've showed this to). Then I was like -- see now I can see white light around your head. haha.

He goes -- so what does that mean? I stated well if I had my third eye more open, like the teachers I studied with, I could see colors around your head and then read the health of your organs. My third eye would shoot out laser light and I could even see inside your body! Then the garlic -- meat-bacteria -- tea tree oil smell scared him off to the meeting he was late for. haha. He yelled "Holy Shit!" haha.

So as Gurdjieff teaches we need to be "three brained" with one of the brains being the understanding of sensation (the moving-instinctive-sex center or the lower tan tien in Taoism). The same teaching is found in Mahayana Buddhism in Master Nan, Huai-chin's books -- the skandas of the body.

The CIA version of this is "proprioreception" of the Brain Port -- used by special forces to convert all the different perceptions (smell, vision, hearing, etc.) into just a vibration of synapse harmonization. The brain just retrains itself to read all the different senses as a change in amplitude and frequency -- so to speak. It's really an emptying out of difference back into female formless awareness, so that true understanding can be achieved -- or what's called a "higher level of consciousness."

Elephants move this way through the forest -- just like Gurdjieff crosses a busy street filled with traffic -- relaxed yet taking in all visual information as infrasound or "surround sound" -- so that there's no collision with trees, other elephants, etc.

2/01/2008 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The words on top of the picture reads, Our Bullets Will Do It.

Go to: You Tube
The bullet machine - Lindsay Shonteff

Quotes from video: "Most prostitutes hate men. Why not her? And for enough money she'll do anything."

It's all in a days work. He can take it.

"You are very stupid and very persistent...and shortly you will be very dead."

The Bullet Machine.

2/01/2008 06:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a great quote from the Gurdjieff book I'm reading:

"We have reached the conclusion that we have two forms of reasoning, formal and associative, and the distinction is made without reference to objective reasoning. It is not possible to develop objective reason so long as our centre of gravity remains in associative reasoning; we have to go from formal to objective. The material of the language of gesture, posture, tone of voice, facial expression, and movement, is the material of formal reasoning, and the Gurdjieff method is designed to shift the centre of gravity to formal and then to objective reasoning by making use of this material." (p. 166)

Objective reasoning is the product of balanced resonance of formal resonance which naturally harmonizes through the full-lotus body-mind posture. So there's lots of assumptions about formal or associative reasoning as different personality types or cultural moires -- objective reasoning cuts through all those differences by relying on the underlying complementary opposite harmonics of reality. All cultures rely on music for balancing the mind-body dynamics and nonwestern music is based on the means to resonant formal reasoning to make contact with objective reasoning.

Objective reasoning is also called "direct perception" or "pure consciousness" or what I call "female formless awareness." The concept that the source of our reasoning is something beyond spacetime has been lost in the West but is regained through the formal reasoning of logical inference -- pursuing the source of the I-thought. This process of logical inference is modeled by complementary opposite harmonics, as Gurdjieff taught and as taught in Taoist yoga, and as practiced in the Bushmen culture, and under the Law of Pythagoras, etc.

Objective reasoning is enabled when there is a permanent "centre of gravity" of magnetic bliss in the pineal gland which when resonated then transforms associative and formal reasoning into light-information that bends spacetime aka telepathy, precognition and telekinesis.

2/01/2008 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Side show Bob says,
Oblivion,or a histronic connection to now. We have all been here before. We have all been here before. Can we connect this time. Try and see why, imagin. Imagin.
Emagin. We have all been here before!Respectfully, Dennis from Oregon.

2/01/2008 08:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Dr. Zhivago said...

and my earlier food already vacated my bowels! bananas, orange, slmonds and spirulina and cayenne. Smooth!

Would you mind providing a stool sample so we can run some tests? We're looking for interesting bits of corn. They usually travel in pairs and are rather husky, so keep your ears open, Colonel.

2/01/2008 09:07:00 PM  
Anonymous OOB at a D said...

Scientists have induced the age-old phenomenon of out-of-body experiences in healthy volunteers for the first time.

The technique, which uses a virtual-reality-style set up of cameras linked to a head-mounted video display, will help researchers understand how the brain assimilates sensory information to determine the position of its body.

The technique could also improve virtual reality games and remote surgery by creating the illusion that a person is somewhere other than in their own body.

Out-of-body experiences are defined as those where a person who is awake sees their own body from somewhere outside themselves. The experiences have been reported in situations where brain function has been damaged through a stroke, epilepsy or drug abuse. The most common cases occur in traumatic situations such as car accidents or on operating tables.

"Out-of body-experiences have fascinated mankind for millennia - their existence has raised fundamental questions about the relationship between human consciousness and the body, and has been much discussed in theology, philosophy and psychology," said Henrik Ehrsson, who carried out his experiments at University College London and is now based at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm.

"Although out-of-body experiences have been reported in a number of clinical conditions, the neuro-scientific basis of this phenomenon remains unclear."

One idea is that these experiences could be explained by errors in how the brain assimilates the visual, tactile and other sensory information coming in from the body. Normally the brain uses the information to construct an idea of the body's position in space. By mixing up the sensory inputs Dr Ehrsson wanted to see if the brain could be tricked into believing its body was somewhere else.

In his experiment participants wore goggles containing a video screen for each eye. Each screen was fed images from a separate camera behind the participant and, because the two images were combined by the brain into a single image, they saw a 3D image of their own back.

Dr Ehrsson then moved a plastic rod towards a location just below the cameras while the participant's real chest was simultaneously touched in the corresponding position. The participants reported feeling that they were located back where the cameras had been placed, watching a body that belonged to someone else.

Olaf Blanke of Ecole Polytechique Fédérale de Lausanne carried out a similar experiment but added another exercise after the virtual reality section, blindfolding the volunteers and guiding them a few steps backwards. When the volunteers were asked to return to their original position, he found they were confused, always overshooting their actual start position in the direction of their virtual body.

"This is a part of what people with spontaneous out of body experiences have, the self is not within the bodily borders," said Professor Blanke. "This is some aspect of an out-of-body experience we have reproduced in a mechanistic way."

Volunteers did not overshoot their original position if they just saw a black screen or a plain box in their goggles.

Both research groups, who published their results today in Science, concluded that confusion between the senses was a key mechanism in the explanation of out- of-body experiences.

As well as providing scientists with a way to examine out-of-body experiences further in a lab setting, the experiments could have industrial applications. "This is essentially a means of projecting yourself, a form of teleportation," said Dr Ehrsson. "If we can project people into a virtual character, so they feel and respond as if they were really in a virtual version of themselves, just imagine the implications.

"The experience of playing video games could reach a whole new level, but it could go much beyond that. A surgeon could perform remote surgery, by controlling their virtual self from a different location."

Let me be the first to say it:

Dr. Drew, Astral Surgeon, your Taco Bell lotusing days may be over quite soon.

"Movin' on up
To the East-side.
Movin' on up........

2/01/2008 09:35:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Jeff said:

"Which returns me to America's ongoing manic episode. Which is the greater crazy: to see things, or to pretend that you don't?"

A great deal of this ongoing manic episode is the false 9-11 story empowering Bush II (and soon Clinton II with her vote fraud machines*) with this lie based global imperial policy.

* -After all Hillary Clinton went to Bilderberg 2006 in Ottawa. She's the next annointed just like Edwards went to Bilderberg 2004 right before being allowed to be Kerry's VP several years ago, and just like her husband Bill who got the nod back in the early 1990s at Bilderberg before he was run for President as well.

From International Common Knowledge, Inc., not owned by Empire on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown, Ltd.

Man who blew the whistle on Gladio tells Italy's largest newspaper attacks were run by CIA, Mossad
by Paul Joseph Watson,

As posted at Global Research, December 5, 2007 (

Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, Francesco Cossiga, has gone public on 9/11, telling Italy's most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.

Cossiga was elected President of Italian Senate in July 1983 before being winning a landslide 1985 election to become President of the country in 1985.

Cossiga gained respect from opposition parties as one of a rare breed - an honest politician - and led the country for seven years until April 1992.

Cossiga's tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio - a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 60's, 70's and 80's.

Gladio's specialty was to carry out what they coined "false flag operations," terror attacks that were blamed on their domestic and geopolitical opposition.

Cossiga's revelations contributed to an Italian parliamentary investigation of Gladio in 2000, during which evidence was unearthed that the attacks were being overseen by the U.S. intelligence apparatus.

In March 2001, Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated, in sworn testimony, "You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force ... the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security."

Cossiga's new revelations appeared last week in Italy's oldest and most widely read newspaper, Corriere della Sera. Below appears a rough translation.

"[Bin Laden supposedly confessed] to the Qaeda September [attack] to the two towers in New York [claiming to be] the author of the attack of the 11, while all the [intelligence services] of America and Europe ... now know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the CIA American and the Mossad with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part ... in Iraq [and] Afghanistan."

Cossiga first expressed his doubts about 9/11 in 2001, and is quoted in Webster Tarpley's book as stating that "The mastermind of the attack must have been a "sophisticated mind, provided with ample means not only to recruit fanatic kamikazes, but also highly specialized personnel. I add one thing: it could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and flight security personnel."

Coming from a widely respected former head of state, Cossiga's assertion that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job and that this is common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies is highly unlikely to be mentioned by any [empire on the verge of a nervous breakdown] establishment media outlets, because like the hundreds of other sober ex-government, military, air force professionals, allied to hundreds more professors and intellectuals - he can't be sidelined as a crackpot conspiracy theorist...."


Also, Kurt Nimmo reports that earlier this month a member of Japan's Parliament, Fujita Yukihisa, raised questions about 9-11 in a twenty-minute speech to Parliament's upper house. According to Nimmo, Mr. Yukihisa asked whether terrorism is "crime or war." He also asked "Can Japanese police arrest president Bush if he was one of the suspects?" (Nimmo's January 13, 2008 article, "Member of Japanese Diet Doubts Official 9/11 Fairy Tale," is at


And a convenient recipe for psychic healing to avoid pretending you "see things you don't" (like Osama in a cave).

Just an excerpt from an article:

The fabricated "official 9/11 story" has in fact empowered so many subsequent offenses that 9/11 truth has become the mother of all issues and remains the key to widespread redress. If anyone is really looking for a "strategic initiative" to unplug the entire neocon power supply, consider the impact that full disclosure of 9/11 deceit would have upon the following range of concerns.

Uncovering the truth of 9/11 is simultaneously:

* A peace issue: the public's ongoing ignorance of official 9/11 lies will continue to feed the fear and hostility the "War on Terror" depends upon. Once the truth is known, "Remember 9/11!" will take on a whole new significance and foster a vital "fool me twice" mistrust of our military-industrial complex and most aggressive leaders.

* A national security issue: as long as 9/11 lies are exploited to mount support for brutal resource wars, the more the Muslim world will rightfully despise us and threaten our kids for generations to come. (Some indeed argue that creating this durable new defense budget-sustaining threat was a more important motive for the phony 9/11-to-Iraq war segue than seizing oil or shoring up Sharon.)

* A children's issue: the social programs sacrificed for "War on Terror" boondoggles and profiteering overwhelmingly victimize the young, especially those with disabilities.

* An environmental issue: post-9/11 calls for "energy independence" have been seized and twisted by Bush's corporate sponsors to justify more wilderness oil drilling, abusive environmental practices, and a rebirth of nuclear power, not to mention a lengthening list of corporate takings from the ecological commons.

* A public health issue: in New York, official lies about post-attack air quality promise to kill more residents from toxic WTC pollution than those who died from the attacks themselves; nationally, the cost of the 9/11-fueled War on Terror is gutting public health budgets across the land.

* A women's issue: the ongoing costs of 9/11-related warfare, job loss and social program austerity fall far more heavily upon women and children nationwide; and 9/11 fear has politically empowered the far right to launch a war here at home on women's basic rights.

* A human rights issue: the official 9/11 story has spawned such bigoted and vengeful fear that a recent Cornell University poll found that 44% of Americans are now ready to slash US Muslims' civil rights, while a nearly equal number now accept the "need" to torture prisoners.

* A social justice issue: poor and minority Americans are deeply scarred by "War on Terror"-related cutbacks in social programs at the same time that their youth are the most heavily recruited by the military and sacrificed in battle as the conflict proceeds

* An electoral issue: although "god, gays & guns" are often characterized as "family values" election ploys, their common denominator is fear. Fear that we are beyond self-help as a people, fear our children will not think or act like us, fear that without our firearms we are helpless in a sick and scary world. The higher the national fear quotient (and custom color-coded threat level), the more these constituencies will flock to bellowing "tough guy" leaders who peddle dread, feign infallibility, and seem happy to wield deadly force to protect them from all harm. (See Erich Fromm's "Fear of Freedom" for the classic study of how fear fuels authoritarianism and acceptance of fascist societies.)

* A Constitutional liberty issue: the official 9/11 story (and deftly timed anthrax attacks) generated instant blind assent to the Constitution-shredding Patriot Act as well as scores of other presidential and Department of Justice directives that further threaten accountability and our shrinking Bill of Rights.

* A national solvency issue: the "national 9/11 emergency" has allowed the Bush team to abandon any pretense of fiscal restraint, flood corporate backers with exorbitant profits, plunge the nation into an abyss of debt, and hasten arch-privatizer Grover Norquist's dream of "a government small enough to drown in a bathtub." [Shock Doctrine and all that...]

* A media reform issue: the consistent, breathtaking refusal of mainstream media to investigate official deception since 9/11 (up through Iraq and 2004 electoral fraud) has openly exposed the industry as cowardly and/or corrupt. Thus far only the independent and second-tier media have shown any journalistic integrity regarding these questions and will benefit enormously when public outrage over the cover-up finally forces the breakup of conglomerates and across the board reform."

Though the empire with the nervous breakdown, the Bush-Clinton hydra headed party system, will assuredly attempt to take everything down trying to keep its 9-11 official fantasy alive.

2/01/2008 10:58:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Kucinich has dropped or at least "postponed" his impeachment proceedings. Gallup is putting Clinton in first place all the way to the top and Prime Minister Harper paid his dues on his way to the top.

It all comes down to this bit of leverage..

2/02/2008 12:43:00 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

Eric said:

"Kucinich has dropped or at least "postponed" his impeachment proceedings."

Any more on his dead brother, age 52, found face down?

When the brother of the only main party U.S. Presidential Candidate (outside Ron Paul) to distant himself from corporate fascism mysteriously dies face down, and Kucinich [1] soon reverses himself on impeachment, [2] then soon drops out of the race, [3] and soon claims that his New Hampshire recount funds (already set up in full according to Brad Blog and working their way through the system) are suddenly "not enough for the recount", he assuredly got the word. That word would be from the Clinton mafia that he can stop pretending it is a democracy or election and just quietly drop out and stop his recount in New Hampshire that would show clear Clinton vote fraud.

"“The Kucinich family is very close knit,” said family spokesman Andy Juniewicz. “This is a devastating loss to each and every member of the Kucinich family. Dennis was very close to his brother Perry. He watched after him, and he loved him dearly. The two spoke nearly every day. He was more like Dennis’ son than his brother.”

Just putting some dots together.

"[Dec 19, 2007] The youngest brother of Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich was found dead at his home Wednesday.

Perry Kucinich, 52, was found face down by another brother, Larry, at about 9 a.m., said Powell Caesar, a spokesman for the Cuyahoga County Coroner's office.

There were no signs of foul play, Caesar said. An autopsy was being performed Wednesday to determine the cause of death. [There was no follow up article about the autopsy that was said to be occurring immediately, "this hour" (CBS News) on Dec. 19, 2007.]

Larry Kucinich had taken his brother shopping Tuesday and then took him home but couldn't get an answer when he tried calling him Wednesday, Caesar said.

A statement from the congressman's office said Perry Kucinich was a artist whose works have been on display at a local art gallery. The statement said Perry and Dennis Kucinich were planning another showing of his works in the spring.

“He was an admirer of the works of Klee and Picasso, and the style and structure of his artwork derived from their influences,” Dennis Kucinich said in a statement. “He was a genius. He had extraordinary insights. Although he struggled with mental illness, with the help of his family and friends, he was able to lead a productive life.”

Dennis Kucinich took a flight from Washington to Cleveland after learning of the death, said his office press secretary, Natalie Laber.

"He was very close to Perry and he's taking this very hard," Laber said."


Perry Kucinich, 52, the youngest brother of Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich, was found dead Wednesday morning at his apartment above Becker's Donuts & Bakery on East 71st Street in Cleveland.

Perry Kucinich [picture]

His brother Larry found him face down on the kitchen floor at about 9 a.m., Powell Caesar, spokesman for the Cuyahoga County [coroner?] Frank Miller, said.

"Being face down doesn't indicate anything," Caesar said. "Whatever happened to him, gravity took hold, and he went down. There was no blunt force. No trauma. No sign of foul play."

The exact cause of death is pending autopsy results [of a new head coroner: "The [long reigning] Dr. Elizabeth K. Balraj, the Coroner of Cuyahoga County from 1987 to 2007 recommended that Dr. Miller succeed her as Coroner when she resigned from office on July 31, 2007. Dr. Miller was appointed Interim Coroner by the Board of County Commissioners on August 2, 2007."]

Larry Kucinich had taken his brother shopping Tuesday and then took him home but couldn't get an answer when he tried calling him Wednesday morning, Caesar said. [So he was laying on the floor all day from Wednesday morning to Wednesday 9 p.m.?]

Dennis Kucinich, who represents the 10th U.S. congressional district in Northeast Ohio, returned from Washington after learning of his brother's death.

Upon arriving in Cleveland, the congressman said that his brother was a talented artist whose style and structure was influenced by such modern artists as Paul Klee and Pablo Picasso.

"He was a genius," the congressman said. "He had extraordinary insights. Although he struggled with mental illness, with the help of friends and family he led a productive life. We are a close family. It's just devastating."

[Here's some strange antics:]

Perry Kucinich, the fifth of Frank and Virginia Kucinich's seven children, died eight days after his 52nd birthday and nearly 29 years to the day after he became world famous for robbing a bank.

On Dec. 18, 1978, while then-Mayor Dennis Kucinich was downtown withdrawing money to make a symbolic gesture in protest of Cleveland Trust's refusal to refinance $5 million in notes the city owed that bank, Perry Kucinich, then 22, was making an unauthorized withdrawal from a Central National Bank branch on the East Side of town.

The mayor withdrew nearly $9,200 from his personal savings and checking accounts at Cleveland Trust.

His brother, unarmed, wearing a red tassel cap, sunglasses and black leather jacket, handed a teller at a Christmas card with "All your $ or die" written on the back. He took along a light blue suitcase in which to carry the stolen $1,396.

Following the colorful description offered by witnesses, Cleveland police caught up with Perry Kucinich as he was walking home, reading the card and smiling.

Then Mayor Kucinich told reporters that Perry had been under psychiatric care for five years.

"I'm sure that he did not really understand what he was doing," he said.

Reports of the event were published internationally.

Two months later, Perry Kucinich was deemed incompetent to stand trail on a federal bank robbery charge.


2/02/2008 01:42:00 AM  
Blogger CuriosityShop said...

Happy Groundhog Day.

One of my favorite movies.

Also known by some as Candlemas Day.

So happy to see and read your posts IC. I still visit here and read, but don't have much to say.

and "verge of nervous breakdown", I'd say we right smack in the middle of one.

movie girl

2/02/2008 07:58:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Hey movie girl, I was just thinking about you. Earlier you had asked if any people here had followed their dream. I asserted that I had without saying what that dream is. My dream is quite simple; it is to appear normal and to not be normal.

Eric, this quote from Alan Trombly via your link sums up why my attention was switched from physics to philosophy.

Adams: How can we make free energy available to the planet?

Trombly: There is no such thing as free energy without enlightenment and liberation. The technologies point to free energy. We are the technology. We are the free energy.

2/02/2008 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The apostle Paul, in his second letter to the Thessalonians, foretold the great apostasy which would result in the establishment of the papal power. He declared that the day of Christ should not come, "except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God." And furthermore, the apostle warns his brethren that "the mystery of iniquity doth already work." 2 Thessalonians 2:3, 4, 7. Even at that early date he saw, creeping into the church, errors that would prepare the way for the development of the papacy.

Little by little, at first in stealth and silence, and then more openly as it increased in strength and gained control of the minds of men, "the mystery of iniquity" carried forward its deceptive and blasphemous work. Almost imperceptibly the customs of heathenism found their way into the Christian church. The spirit of compromise and conformity was restrained for a time by the fierce persecutions which the church endured under paganism. But as persecution ceased, and Christianity entered the courts and palaces of kings, she laid aside the humble simplicity of Christ and His apostles for the pomp and pride of pagan priests and rulers; and in place of the requirements of God, she substituted human theories and traditions. The nominal conversion of Constantine, in the early part of the fourth century, caused great rejoicing; and the world, cloaked with a form of righteousness, walked into the church. Now the work of corruption rapidly progressed. Paganism, while appearing to be vanquished, became the conqueror. Her spirit controlled the church. Her doctrines, ceremonies, and superstitions were incorporated into the faith and worship of the professed followers of Christ.

This compromise between paganism and Christianity resulted in the development of "the man of sin" foretold in prophecy as opposing and exalting himself above God. That gigantic system of false religion is a masterpiece of Satan's power--a monument of his efforts to seat himself upon the throne to rule the earth according to his will.

Satan once endeavored to form a compromise with Christ. He came to the Son of God in the wilderness of temptation, and showing Him all the kingdoms of the world and the glory of them, offered to give all into His hands if He would but acknowledge the supremacy of the prince of darkness. Christ rebuked the presumptuous tempter and forced him to depart. But Satan meets with greater success in presenting the same temptations to man. To secure worldly gains and honors, the church was led to seek the favor and support of the great men of earth; and having thus rejected Christ, she was induced to yield allegiance to the representative of Satan --the bishop of Rome.

It is one of the leading doctrines of Romanism that the pope is the visible head of the universal church of Christ, invested with supreme authority over bishops and pastors in all parts of the world. More than this, the pope has been given the very titles of Deity. He has been styled "Lord God the Pope" (see Appendix), and has been declared infallible. He demands the homage of all men. The same claim urged by Satan in the wilderness of temptation is still urged by him through the Church of Rome, and vast numbers are ready to yield him homage.

But those who fear and reverence God meet this heaven-daring assumption as Christ met the solicitations of the wily foe: "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve." Luke 4:8. God has never given a hint in His word that He has appointed any man to be the head of the church. The doctrine of papal supremacy is directly opposed to the teachings of the Scriptures. The pope can have no power over Christ's church except by usurpation.

Romanists have persisted in bringing against Protestants the charge of heresy and willful separation from the true church. But these accusations apply rather to themselves. They are the ones who laid down the banner of Christ and departed from "the faith which was once delivered unto the saints." Jude 3.

Satan well knew that the Holy Scriptures would enable men to discern his deceptions and withstand his power. It was by the word that even the Saviour of the world had resisted his attacks. At every assault, Christ presented the shield of eternal truth, saying, "It is written." To every suggestion of the adversary, He opposed the wisdom and power of the word. In order for Satan to maintain his sway over men, and establish the authority of the papal usurper, he must keep them in ignorance of the Scriptures. The Bible would exalt God and place finite men in their true position; therefore its sacred truths must be concealed and suppressed. This logic was adopted by the Roman Church. For hundreds of years the circulation of the Bible was prohibited. The people were forbidden to read it or to have it in their houses, and unprincipled priests and prelates interpreted its teachings to sustain their pretensions. Thus the pope came to be almost universally acknowledged as the vicegerent of God on earth, endowed with authority over church and state.

The detector of error having been removed, Satan worked according to his will. Prophecy had declared that the papacy was to "think to change times and laws." Daniel 7:25. This work it was not slow to attempt. To afford converts from heathenism a substitute for the worship of idols, and thus to promote their nominal acceptance of Christianity, the adoration of images and relics was gradually introduced into the Christian worship. The decree of a general council (see Appendix) finally established this system of idolatry. To complete the sacrilegious work, Rome presumed to expunge from the law of God the second commandment, forbidding image worship, and to divide the tenth commandment, in order to preserve the number.

The spirit of concession to paganism opened the way for a still further disregard of Heaven's authority. Satan, working through unconsecrated leaders of the church, tampered with the fourth commandment also, and essayed to set aside the ancient Sabbath, the day which God had blessed and sanctified (Genesis 2:2, 3), and in its stead to exalt the festival observed by the heathen as "the venerable day of the sun." This change was not at first attempted openly. In the first centuries the true Sabbath had been kept by all Christians. They were jealous for the honor of God, and, believing that His law is immutable, they zealously guarded the sacredness of its precepts. But with great subtlety Satan worked through his agents to bring about his object. That the attention of the people might be called to the Sunday, it was made a festival in honor of the resurrection of Christ. Religious services were held upon it; yet it was regarded as a day of recreation, the Sabbath being still sacredly observed.

To prepare the way for the work which he designed to accomplish, Satan had led the Jews, before the advent of Christ, to load down the Sabbath with the most rigorous exactions, making its observance a burden. Now, taking advantage of the false light in which he had thus caused it to be regarded, he cast contempt upon it as a Jewish institution. While Christians generally continued to observe the Sunday as a joyous festival, he led them, in order to show their hatred of Judaism, to make the Sabbath a fast, a day of sadness and gloom.

In the early part of the fourth century the emperor Constantine issued a decree making Sunday a public festival throughout the Roman Empire. (See Appendix.) The day of the sun was reverenced by his pagan subjects and was honored by Christians; it was the emperor's policy to unite the conflicting interests of heathenism and Christianity. He was urged to do this by the bishops of the church, who, inspired by ambition and thirst for power, perceived that if the same day was observed by both Christians and heathen, it would promote the nominal acceptance of Christianity by pagans and thus advance the power and glory of the church. But while many God-fearing Christians were gradually led to regard Sunday as possessing a degree of sacredness, they still held the true Sabbath as the holy of the Lord and observed it in obedience to the fourth commandment.

The archdeceiver had not completed his work. He was resolved to gather the Christian world under his banner and to exercise his power through his vicegerent, the proud pontiff who claimed to be the representative of Christ. Through half-converted pagans, ambitious prelates, and world-loving churchmen he accomplished his purpose. Vast councils were held from time to time, in which the dignitaries of the church were convened from all the world. In nearly every council the Sabbath which God had instituted was pressed down a little lower, while the Sunday was correspondingly exalted. Thus the pagan festival came finally to be honored as a divine institution, while the Bible Sabbath was pronounced a relic of Judaism, and its observers were declared to be accursed.

The great apostate had succeeded in exalting himself "above all that is called God, or that is worshiped." 2 Thessalonians 2:4. He had dared to change the only precept of the divine law that unmistakably points all mankind to the true and living God. In the fourth commandment, God is revealed as the Creator of the heavens and the earth, and is thereby distinguished from all false gods. It was as a memorial of the work of creation that the seventh day was sanctified as a rest day for man. It was designed to keep the living God ever before the minds of men as the source of being and the object of reverence and worship. Satan strives to turn men from their allegiance to God, and from rendering obedience to His law; therefore he directs his efforts especially against that commandment which points to God as the Creator.

Protestants now urge that the resurrection of Christ on Sunday made it the Christian Sabbath. But Scripture evidence is lacking. No such honor was given to the day by Christ or His apostles. The observance of Sunday as a Christian institution had its origin in that "mystery of lawlessness" (2 Thessalonians 2:7, R.V.) which, even in Paul's day, had begun its work. Where and when did the Lord adopt this child of the papacy? What valid reason can be given for a change which the Scriptures do not sanction?

In the sixth century the papacy had become firmly established. Its seat of power was fixed in the imperial city, and the bishop of Rome was declared to be the head over the entire church. Paganism had given place to the papacy. The dragon had given to the beast "his power, and his seat, and great authority." Revelation 13:2. And now began the 1260 years of papal oppression foretold in the prophecies of Daniel and the Revelation. Daniel 7:25; Revelation 13:5-7. (See Appendix.) Christians were forced to choose either to yield their integrity and accept the papal ceremonies and worship, or to wear away their lives in dungeons or suffer death by the rack, the fagot, or the headsman's ax. Now were fulfilled the words of Jesus: "Ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for My name's sake." Luke 21:16, 17. Persecution opened upon the faithful with greater fury than ever before, and the world became a vast battlefield. For hundreds of years the church of Christ found refuge in seclusion and obscurity. Thus says the prophet: "The woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and three-score days." Revelation 12:6.

The accession of the Roman Church to power marked the beginning of the Dark Ages. As her power increased, the darkness deepened. Faith was transferred from Christ, the true foundation, to the pope of Rome. Instead of trusting in the Son of God for forgiveness of sins and for eternal salvation, the people looked to the pope, and to the priests and prelates to whom he delegated authority. They were taught that the pope was their earthly mediator and that none could approach God except through him; and, further, that he stood in the place of God to them and was therefore to be implicitly obeyed. A deviation from his requirements was sufficient cause for the severest punishment to be visited upon the bodies and souls of the offenders. Thus the minds of the people were turned away from God to fallible, erring, and cruel men, nay, more, to the prince of darkness himself, who exercised his power through them. Sin was disguised in a garb of sanctity. When the Scriptures are suppressed, and man comes to regard himself as supreme, we need look only for fraud, deception, and debasing iniquity. With the elevation of human laws and traditions was manifest the corruption that ever results from setting aside the law of God.

Those were days of peril for the church of Christ. The faithful standard-bearers were few indeed. Though the truth was not left without witnesses, yet at times it seemed that error and superstition would wholly prevail, and true religion would be banished from the earth. The gospel was lost sight of, but the forms of religion were multiplied, and the people were burdened with rigorous exactions.

They were taught not only to look to the pope as their mediator, but to trust to works of their own to atone for sin. Long pilgrimages, acts of penance, the worship of relics, the erection of churches, shrines, and altars, the payment of large sums to the church--these and many similar acts were enjoined to appease the wrath of God or to secure His favor; as if God were like men, to be angered at trifles, or pacified by gifts or acts of penance!

Notwithstanding that vice prevailed, even among the leaders of the Roman Church, her influence seemed steadily to increase. About the close of the eighth century, papists put forth the claim that in the first ages of the church the bishops of Rome had possessed the same spiritual power which they now assumed. To establish this claim, some means must be employed to give it a show of authority; and this was readily suggested by the father of lies. Ancient writings were forged by monks. Decrees of councils before unheard of were discovered, establishing the universal supremacy of the pope from the earliest times. And a church that had rejected the truth greedily accepted these deceptions. (See Appendix.)

The few faithful builders upon the true foundation. (1 Corinthians 3:10, 11) were perplexed and hindered as the rubbish of false doctrine obstructed the work. Like the builders upon the wall of Jerusalem in Nehemiah's day, some were ready to say: "The strength of the bearers of burdens is decayed, and there is much rubbish; so that we are not able to build." Nehemiah 4:10. Wearied with the constant struggle against persecution, fraud, iniquity, and every other obstacle that Satan could devise to hinder their progress, some who had been faithful builders became disheartened; and for the sake of peace and security for their property and their lives, they turned away from the true foundation. Others, undaunted by the opposition of their enemies, fearlessly declared: "Be not ye afraid of them: remember the Lord, which is great and terrible" (verse 14); and they proceeded with the work, everyone with his sword girded by his side. Ephesians 6:17.

The same spirit of hatred and opposition to the truth has inspired the enemies of God in every age, and the same vigilance and fidelity have been required in His servants. The words of Christ to the first disciples are applicable to His followers to the close of time: "What I say unto you I say unto all, Watch." Mark 13:37.

The darkness seemed to grow more dense. Image worship became more general. Candles were burned before images, and prayers were offered to them. The most absurd and superstitious customs prevailed. The minds of men were so completely controlled by superstition that reason itself seemed to have lost its sway. While priests and bishops were themselves pleasure-loving, sensual, and corrupt, it could only be expected that the people who looked to them for guidance would be sunken in ignorance and vice.

Another step in papal assumption was taken, when, in the eleventh century, Pope Gregory VII proclaimed the perfection of the Roman Church. Among the propositions which he put forth was one declaring that the church had never erred, nor would it ever err, according to the Scriptures. But the Scripture proofs did not accompany the assertion. The proud pontiff also claimed the power to depose emperors, and declared that no sentence which he pronounced could be reversed by anyone, but that it was his prerogative to reverse the decisions of all others. (See Appendix.)

A striking illustration of the tyrannical character of this advocate of infallibility was given in his treatment of the German emperor, Henry IV. For presuming to disregard the pope's authority, this monarch was declared to be excommunicated and dethroned. Terrified by the desertion and threats of his own princes, who were encouraged in rebellion against him by the papal mandate, Henry felt the necessity of making his peace with Rome. In company with his wife and a faithful servant he crossed the Alps in midwinter, that he might humble himself before the pope. Upon reaching the castle whither Gregory had withdrawn, he was conducted, without his guards, into an outer court, and there, in the severe cold of winter, with uncovered head and naked feet, and in a miserable dress, he awaited the pope's permission to come into his presence. Not until he had continued three days fasting and making confession, did the pontiff condescend to grant him pardon. Even then it was only upon condition that the emperor should await the sanction of the pope before resuming the insignia or exercising the power of royalty. And Gregory, elated with his triumph, boasted that it was his duty to pull down the pride of kings.

How striking the contrast between the overbearing pride of this haughty pontiff and the meekness and gentleness of Christ, who represents Himself as pleading at the door of the heart for admittance, that He may come in to bring pardon and peace, and who taught His disciples: "Whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant." Matthew 20:27.

The advancing centuries witnessed a constant increase of error in the doctrines put forth from Rome. Even before the establishment of the papacy the teachings of heathen philosophers had received attention and exerted an influence in the church. Many who professed conversion still clung to the tenets of their pagan philosophy, and not only continued its study themselves, but urged it upon others as a means of extending their influence among the heathen. Serious errors were thus introduced into the Christian faith. Prominent among these was the belief in man's natural immortality and his consciousness in death. This doctrine laid the foundation upon which Rome established the invocation of saints and the adoration of the Virgin Mary. From this sprang also the heresy of eternal torment for the finally impenitent, which was early incorporated into the papal faith.

Then the way was prepared for the introduction of still another invention of paganism, which Rome named purgatory, and employed to terrify the credulous and superstitious multitudes. By this heresy is affirmed the existence of a place of torment, in which the souls of such as have not merited eternal damnation are to suffer punishment for their sins, and from which, when freed from impurity, they are admitted to heaven. (See Appendix.)

Still another fabrication was needed to enable Rome to profit by the fears and the vices of her adherents. This was supplied by the doctrine of indulgences. Full remission of sins, past, present, and future, and release from all the pains and penalties incurred, were promised to all who would enlist in the pontiff's wars to extend his temporal dominion, to punish his enemies, or to exterminate those who dared deny his spiritual supremacy. The people were also taught that by the payment of money to the church they might free themselves from sin, and also release the souls of their deceased friends who were confined in the tormenting flames. By such means did Rome fill her coffers and sustain the magnificence, luxury, and vice of the pretended representatives of Him who had not where to lay His head. (See Appendix.)

The Scriptural ordinance of the Lord's Supper had been supplanted by the idolatrous sacrifice of the mass. Papal priests pretended, by their senseless mummery, to convert the simple bread and wine into the actual "body and blood of Christ."--Cardinal Wiseman, The Real Presence of the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Blessed Eucharist, Proved From Scripture, lecture 8, sec. 3, par. 26. With blasphemous presumption, they openly claimed the power of creating God, the Creator of all things. Christians were required, on pain of death, to avow their faith in this horrible, Heaven-insulting heresy. Multitudes who refused were given to the flames. (See Appendix.)

In the thirteenth century was established that most terrible of all the engines of the papacy--the Inquisition. The prince of darkness wrought with the leaders of the papal hierarchy. In their secret councils Satan and his angels controlled the minds of evil men, while unseen in the midst stood an angel of God, taking the fearful record of their iniquitous decrees and writing the history of deeds too horrible to appear to human eyes. "Babylon the great" was "drunken with the blood of the saints." The mangled forms of millions of martyrs cried to God for vengeance upon that apostate power.

Popery had become the world's despot. Kings and emperors bowed to the decrees of the Roman pontiff. The destinies of men, both for time and for eternity, seemed under his control. For hundreds of years the doctrines of Rome had been extensively and implicitly received, its rites reverently performed, its festivals generally observed. Its clergy were honored and liberally sustained. Never since has the Roman Church attained to greater dignity, magnificence, or power.

But "the noon of the papacy was the midnight of the world."--J. A. Wylie, The History of Protestantism, b. 1, ch. 4. The Holy Scriptures were almost unknown, not only to the people, but to the priests. Like the Pharisees of old, the papal leaders hated the light which would reveal their sins. God's law, the standard of righteousness, having been removed, they exercised power without limit, and practiced vice without restraint. Fraud, avarice, and profligacy prevailed. Men shrank from no crime by which they could gain wealth or position. The palaces of popes and prelates were scenes of the vilest debauchery. Some of the reigning pontiffs were guilty of crimes so revolting that secular rulers endeavored to depose these dignitaries of the church as monsters too vile to be tolerated. For centuries Europe had made no progress in learning, arts, or civilization. A moral and intellectual paralysis had fallen upon Christendom.

The condition of the world under the Romish power presented a fearful and striking fulfillment of the words of the prophet Hosea: "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee: . . . seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children." "There is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land. By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood." Hosea 4:6, 1, 2. Such were the results of banishing the word of God.

2/02/2008 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I should clarify that by "associative reasoning" Gurdjieff meant "Kundabuffer" which is a central term in his unreadable opus: "All and Everything: Tales of Beelzebub" or whatever. Gurdjieff states that there was a cosmic accident caused by comets (water-covered amino acids) which created the moon and also Kundabuffer aka kundalini. Kundalini is just the sublimated sex energy manifesting as visions and vanity -- delusions of grandeur and even real power of transformation.

In contrast to Kundabuffer is again "objective reasoning" which has no cause and requires no effort. The best logical presentation of objective reasoning is "Be that which you are." or similar title -- it's by David Godman on Sri Ramana Maharshi.

When, as Gurdjieff taught, we focus on the I-thought there is no object in this philosophy -- as Dan Zahavi describes, the I-thought is the only thought for humans which is "self-transcending." At first we hold onto the I-thought, repeating I-I-I over and over to see the logical source of all our thoughts. Eventually we logically infer that we retain consciousness even in deep sleep and consciousness is therefore objective -- not based on either associative reasoning (sex energy) nor formal reasoning (civilization).

The process whereby the I-thought becomes objective is when it creates will-power which is actually the kidney energy and created through complementary opposite harmonics. So this is why full-lotus is so effective in sublimated and transforming the kundabuffer -- the source of delusion in humans -- so that kundalini can return to it's source as objective consciousness.

Gurdjieff takes that psychological and physiological process and relates it to cosmology. He states that as civilization "progresses" humans are increasingly controlled by the Kundabuffer -- and therefore the humans are increasingly machines. Freemasonry calls this the "separation of heaven (mind) and earth (body)" through mass ritual sacrifice, as detailed in my blogbook, "when the mothership lands."

The negative energy of the kundalini -- electrochemical, yin energy, and the positive energy of the electromagnetic energy -- the source of our thoughts - is resolved by the neutral energy as objective consciousness or what the Buddhists called "essential nature" as the root of the heart. It's therefore experienced and discovered through a great feeling of love and bliss which is then transmitted through the I-thought now transformed by the yang electromagnetic-light energy. This is why modern studies on OBEs, and say Susan Blackmore's much tauted book on the subject, are all bunk -- a true full-lotus yoga master is a rare find in the West. In contrast qigong master Chunyi Lin just had a chapter published in a Mayo Clinic medical textbook on paranormal healing energy through OBEs -- so to speak -- coauthored by Mayo Clinic oncologist Dr. Nina Mishek. I think qigong master Chunyi Lin is also doing a new N.I.H. study on pain relief through chi energy transmission. for further details

2/02/2008 12:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't take much more of this sounder guy. People complain about drew but at least he minds his own business. This sounder guy is obnoxious and full of himself. You can take your new age bullshit and stuff it up your ass mister. Come down off your high horse and pull your head out of ass so there's room for all this nonsense you're constantly shitting out of your mouth. Your ass is for shitting not your mouth.

2/02/2008 12:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2/02/2008 01:18:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Hey anony 12:59, care to cite specifics? At any rate I see YCYOR and new age similar to this person:

So, not new age.

Better writing this time Drew, and excellent material, thanks.

2/02/2008 02:53:00 PM  
Anonymous doodad said...

"....that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies."

Nice to see this place never really changes.

I'm surprised the "global bankers," (wink wink nudge nudge say no more, eh mates) allow it.

2/03/2008 12:12:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Hey Doodad..Wrong venue..It's the dems and pugs promising change..

2/03/2008 12:22:00 AM  
Blogger Fructedor said...

"There is no such thing as free energy without enlightenment and liberation. The technologies point to free energy. We are the technology. We are the free energy."

That's right on. The only use for religious myths is the point at which they all tell us the same thing - identity and above all potential which can only be defined by ourselves.

2/03/2008 07:08:00 AM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

"We are the free energy"....guys, you know that whole thing about using people for heat-batteries in The Matrix - that wasn't a new idea. I remember reading a very similar setup in an old sf collection (if anyone knows the story I mean let me know - I can't remember the name).

Update the idea - just think what we'd be good for - muscle-driven vehicles for the elite, organ sources, fluid sources, food sources - why waste land on cows when you can eat long pig?
We are the free energy. With your choice of side dish.

Dying for breakfast,
Lord Reptor.

2/03/2008 09:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Identity: I am an ass.
Potential: Going to the bathroom.

Hey what about me?

Being food for people to eat is a concept that was taught in the movie Soylent Green. I see that free energy is us too. Yes we may be free energy. Instead of dinosaurs powering appliances in Fred Flintstone. Set the controls for the heart of the sun.

2/03/2008 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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2/03/2008 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cat + Rodent = Egg

Ayn Rand

2/03/2008 11:39:00 AM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

Hey, Belliosto - I have the title for the fairy tale to go with your "log" cabin - Hansel and Gretel 2: The Refecation....

I would kinda like a biolet for the garden - it does seem a waste throwing all that into a tank. Certainly stays green in the summer drought around that spot - at least it's not all wasted.

Gagging at the thought of bagging,
Lord Reptor

2/03/2008 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry again.

On You Tube: Rare Corporal Clegg video, Pink Floyd

Corporal Clegg had a wooden leg
He won it in the war, in 1944
Corporal Clegg had a medal too
In orange, red, and blue
He found it in the zoo.
Dear, dear were they really sad for me?
Dear, dear will they really laugh at me?
Mrs. Clegg, you must be proud of him.
Mrs. Clegg, another drop of gin
Corporal Clegg, umbrella in the rain
He's never been the same
No one is to blame
Corporal Clegg received his medal in a dream
From Her Majesty the queen
His boots were very clean.
Mrs. Clegg, you must be proud of him
Mrs. Clegg, another drop of gin

2/03/2008 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the elite: we filthy pieces of shit are to be used for their agendas of domination. We the human waste of the planet are the energy source for them always have been. In Economics, Politics, and Religion. Filthy, worthless pieces of shit are we. Ten Hut.

2/03/2008 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

I was just taping a bunch of that record for a friend. Funny, listening to that in the evening and then finding the lyrics here. What an interesting band Floyd was - I like Saucerful, Piper, and Meddle best of all their work, I think.

Riding the Hawkwind Spacecraft this morning,
Lord Reptor.

2/03/2008 01:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Robert Monroe would sublimate his sexual energy to induce an OBE, now I'll post this message without the name attached to it -- since it was very well-put and then I'll respond:

"I've read lately here a few posts.... that equate working with sexual energy and experiencing sexual bliss etc as masturbation. ( as if it were 'mere' masturbation)

I think it is an interesting point and no - one has actually answered it as it is a big topic and it has been brought up in threads about other things.

So I'm wondering if you have something you could contribute on this as a thread opener. You are very articulate and well read and experienced and so I feel you are well equipped to put forward an explanation of what it is all about, and why it isnt masturbation....

in fact I think there is a basic lack of knowledge about what masturbation actually IS, on an energetic and psychic level. It functions to draw together a fragmented psyche, which is why people find it healing and reassuring and a stress reliever. apart from the more obvious gratificatory reasons.

We had the poster 'witch'here who was all for promoting more and more orgasms, and when I asked her the question 'why?' she did not answer.

So I wonder how clear all this working with sexual energy is to us all.

In fact it is redundant to say 'sexual' as a prefix to 'energy', in a certain sense...

It would be nice to widen the horizon of what sexual feeling is all about, here, on the board.

I think partly also I feel it is timely to address this issue as there is so much yang energy on the board and so much tension.

This runs alongside a lot of guys training in retention.

In a way the board needs an orgasm.

Anyway. That's my current thoughts on this issue.

Thankyou for your posts."


Well I think this is maybe why the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" trans. by Charles Luk has been shunned by most males on this forum. The book describes how the secret of Taoism is the lowest of things -- making sure you don't "blow your load" (the alchemical agent) as a male. haha.

This secret is what causes people to get red-faced -- to have shame -- no matter what their culture!!

Basically if a male gets randy then it is required that you meditate until the sensation to jerk your dick off goes completely away.

As I've stated before sitting in full-lotus is by far the most effective means to do this.

Also if you can't sublimate the energy then it's best to not eat meat since that will turn into randiness.

The sex energy is the foundation for creating healing energy but since most males lack the ability to transduce and channel their sex energy then most males are controlled by the lower emotions:

Lust turns to fear which then turns to anger which then turns to violence and mental weakness.

The biggest downer in my practice is when males controlled by their lust -- having their consciousness stuck in their lower chakra -- actually hit on me, trying to convert my healing energy back into seminal fluid.

These males believe that no one can tell that they are hitting on me -- it's an idiotic power trip, as if covering their eyes with their hands and thinking no one can see them.

What's doubly worse is that these males -- what Gurdjieff called Number One people -- have no control over what they think they do have control -- sexual addiction is the primary addiction that drives all other addictions.

So in fact Taoist Yoga is the OPPOSITE of masturbation -- it's the ability to channel the lower emotions so that they are ionized into yang bliss-light used for healing energy -- from the heart chakra.

Essentially as the practice continues a person learns that lower emotions are just as much a food for the body as food is as well -- again the best means for a male to transduce this energy is by sitting in full-lotus.

You just keep sitting until the randiness goes away.

So for example last night I had quite a bit of meat. This morning I wanted to stop sitting in full-lotus so I could go to work but I kept having an erection.

I could have just gone to work and sat in full-lotus there but I didn't have to be in yet and my hours are flexible.

When the thoughts of masturbation arise it's crucial that the mind be controlled by "holding onto the I-thought."

Start by repeating I-I-I over and over as this practice is not a mantra but the root of all other thoughts. It doesn't "cut off" or repress other thoughts -- it affirms and transcends all thoughts -- it's who your are. The I-thought, as the true you, will then congeal as one thought -- your mind will then ionize all your other lower emotional thoughts and your true eye will reveal itself --

healing bliss light energy of the heart-mind.

Then true peace will be restored, the body will be stronger and will feel light and blissful. The electrical sensation at the end of your dick will be totally gone.

The magnetic force in the middle of the brain will be stronger -- enough to generate a field that will heal others around you.

You will have love to share with the world.

Now I've actually seen females masturbate in public (which they can do very easily, unlike males) and I've seen the right side of their neck pulsate -- just as it does for me when I sit in full-lotus.

I first learned about this from a science article on females with a broken spine -- it was thought that no longer could they climax sexually -- but it was discovered that the female orgasm happens through the vagus nerve connecting down to the stomach and reproductive area.

So the secret of Taoist Yoga is for the male to learn to have a female orgasm. Professor Robert Sapolsky has studied the opposite problem at length and I've corresponded with him. He has a book "The Trouble with Testosterone."

Essentially unlike the female when the male climaxes ejaculation triggers the sympathetic nervous system which is the stress system, causing a great loss of energy.

Qigong master Chunyi Lin in his Level one lecture tapes notes that qigong works with the parasympathetic nervous system.

So the testosterone is transduced into serotonin and melatonin and oxytocin and later dmt, etc.

Then, after the third eye opens, as Taoist Yoga explains, it will be very tempting to "scatter the vitality" through the eyes.

What this means is that by flexing the pineal gland you cause the right-side vagus nerve to pulsate and then shoot out the yang electromagnetic light along with the oxytocin.

If someone near me has strong yin energy then my right-side vagus nerve will start pulsating as the yin energy sucks in my yang energy. It's been proven that when oxytocin and it's precursors are pumped into a mammal's brain then it induces sexual and mating behavior -- and I find this to be true consistently -- like turning on a switch.

The pulsations will quicken and then my yin energy is pulled up as my yang energy leaves -- this is while I'm sitting in full-lotus but can also be done by reverse breathing (although that takes a lot of skill).

So as the amount of yang energy flows into the yin source to give the yin source a climax the same amount of my yin electrochemical energy (and the yin energy outside of me) is sucked up by the full-lotus pressure -- to get ionized into yang energy.

The book "The Tangled Wing" by Stanford Professor Sapolsky's teacher -- a Harvard biologist Kummer -- states that when serotonin is ionized then it can bypass the blood-brain barrier.

That's the secret of Taoist Yoga -- the blood normally congeals in the stomach along with the vast amount of serotonin of the body.

Meditation creates ultrasound harmonics which then ionizes the serotonin of the stomach -- the lower tan tien -- (including the prostate gland, etc.).

This turns the serotonin into oxytocin via the internal climax which again is described in "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality."

When I have what I call "the O at a D" with females around me -- as I sit in full-lotus -- this creates a great decrease in tension for both of us.

I can also shoot energy into the males as well but as I pointed out not infrequently males have their consciousness focused in their lower chakras and therefore just turn the love energy back into seminal fluid. Some -- the perverts -- will aggressively try to convert the bliss-light of my body into increased seminal fluid for themselves, thereby pulling the "frequency" of my energy back into seminal fluid.

Again sitting in full-lotus prevents them from being able to do this -- but the best solution is for me to quick focus my energy on a stronger yin source then the pervert males -- which means a female. That way the female will suck in my energy -- WITHOUT CONVERTING IT BACK INTO SEMINAL FLUID -- and the pervert will not be able to drag my energy down.

If a pervert does hit on me that means I have to take extra time to reconvert the ionized energy -- what got turned into seminal fluid -- back into healing energy.

This process again has to be balanced with food intake which also creates seminal fluid unless it's converted -- and also the other lower emotions that people project into me -- anger, fear, worry, sadness.

The full-lotus automatically transduces all this into bliss-light energy that can then be shot out of the pineal gland and if I choose, back into my body, to create even stronger electromagnetic healing energy.

The small universe is the foundation of the practice, along with the self-concentration exercise and the simple tai-chi standing exercises.

For guidance c.d.s, etc. see

2/03/2008 02:00:00 PM  
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2/03/2008 05:05:00 PM  
Blogger muddy elephant said...

I'd really like to see a democrat be president this time around--though I have a pretty strong feeling that it won't make a dent in the massive negative momentum that has been caused by the force of many different agents ranging from the "real" to the "unreal".

(yawn, right?)

What I am really interested in though is to see if Hillary picks up the nomination and goes on to win. Many sources who I'd like to believe are convinced Hillary is the one.

So if Hillary wins, it definitely confirms a lot of suspicions for me and I would be further sucked along into the full blown belief that 2012(or at least the fourth reich) is upon us...

On the other hand if Obama wins I think there could be many JFK-like scenarios starting to materialize. So all'y'all who are still pissed that the truth about JFK has never come up. This just might be your chance to get it right...

And if McCain or Romney wins--whatever... At least I might have a bit of an easier time in procuring my fantasy cache of AK's for the impending collapse of civil rights.

Mark, thanks for bringing back some attention to 9/11. Time is the worst enemy of justice and so much time has passed--and, according to some time can actually speed up and in fact is speeding up. Anyways, the only way 9/11 will ever come back to the forefront is if somebody is willing to spend billions on it--that is the sad fact of our reality--our good intentions mean very little these days without the force of our greatest magic:money.

GGG: I am not the stalking type at all, but dumbfoundedly find myself admitting that I am intrigued. If you ever see a pretty good looking mixed asian/eastern european basically white guy with short black hair and an expansive whitish blue aura creating a massive toroidal vortex around Lake Calhoun: that's me. So I'll keep an eye or three out for you.

2/03/2008 05:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Muddy Elephant -- you'll need a stronger energy source to really be wowed by this reality and how lucky you are that qigong master Chunyi Lin teaches through Normandale Community College. I assure you that he is an amazing healer, successfully treating late-term cancer, m.s., h.i.v. positive, paralysis, etc. and he works with the Mayo Clinic doctors.

If you take his class then you'll get an amazing energy treatment!

2/03/2008 07:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's the latest report on the bird migration mystery -- honing in on longitude. Yes they can determine it but how -- no one knows.

Qigong master Chunyi Lin states that he easily gets lost in Minneapolis proper as he lives in the burbs. But he just relies on his third eye intuition to determine the "right" direction. The above story obviously doesn't include such an option for birds but research in biology starting with dolphins does argue such a system -- a "sound picture" sensory integration system. The concept of "sound picture" is one relying on synchronous neurons so that superliminal quantum information is utilized through brain coherence via the pineal gland. In this system memory is stored based on the emotional or electrochemical intensity of the experience and obviously your homeland for mating would be one of emotional intensity. So there would remain a light-information correlation that is instanteous yet is accessed via synchronized neuron phase-shift as a function of time or memory. A similar scenario is the case of cats tracking their owners after being left behind, thousands of miles away. The information of the location is superliminal -- correlated always-already and synchronized into a "sound-picture" due to resonance of complementary opposite harmonics. In other words an:


2/03/2008 08:48:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Here's one hypothesis for why multiple underwater internet trunks all were severed in the past week leading into the Middle East. Just part of the U.S's nervous breakdown once more:

"Reports circulating in the Kremlin today are painting a grim picture of just how desperate US War Leaders have become as their economy continues its freefall towards total bankruptcy by their crashing of Global Internet access for the Middle East's banking centers in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Iran, UAR, Turkey and Kuwait.

These reports state that the Americans became 'enraged' this past week when the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC ) rejected US demands for an immediate increase in oil production.

Further angering the Americans this past week was Turkey's rejection of
US demands for them to sever banking ties with Iran's Bank Mellat, and which allows Iranian continued access to Global banking resources.

But, these reports state, the greatest fears of the United States were raised this past week when Saudi Arabia 'warned' the United States to 'back off' of its threats against Iran or face the Saudi's decoupling the US Dollar from its enormous World oil trade transactions.


Under such a threat, and with the Saudi King growing closer to Iran's President Ahmadinejad [both pictured top left 2nd photo], Russian Military Analysts state in these reports that the United States invoked one of their so called 'nuclear options' by severing the three major undersea cables conn ecting the Middle East's major banking centers to their Western, and Global, counterparts.

The significance to the severing of these cables is the Middle East Banking Centers being denied access to the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial telecommunication (SWIFT), based in Brussels and which carries up to 12.7 million messages a day containing instructions on many of the International transfers of money between banks, lies in Saudi Arabia, or any other Middle East Nation, being unable to change their previously, before loss of communication, encoded currency instructions from being changed.

Moscow's actions against the West, in the severing by the United States of these cables, was swift as President Putin ordered Russian Air Force Fighters and Bombers to take immediate action to protect the Russian Nations vital undersea cables in the Arctic and Atlantic Oceans.

To some of the Russian Air Force assets used we can read as reported by the Reuters News Service article titled "Russia sends bombers, fighters. to Atlantic, Arctic",... "

It doesn't make any sense unless there is some special dedicated connection that 'required' severing.

Three cables all at once is a little non-accidental, particularly when it is occurring in only the trunks leading to the oil-rich infrastructural areas of the world.

2/03/2008 10:29:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

I wonder what kind of testimony you have going for you Thumper?

The condition of the world under the Romish power presented a fearful and striking fulfillment of the words of the prophet Hosea

I will post this one last time for your benefit. The bible is the square. It has been hoaxed. Try this link and put your foot on the path for your one thin opportunity you have left.

2/03/2008 11:33:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Mark..I sent you an email with this link attached a couple of days ago. Thought I would attach it here ..

2/03/2008 11:56:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Former CIA Director Is Running the McCain Campaign
4 min

If CIA officers tell other countries how to conduct grass roots democracy as the latest example of a foreign coup, surely Woolsey can apply all these 'democratic talents' domestically.

Title: Ukraine: US Orwellian "well planned drama" of IMF/CIA/NED coup as "grassroots democracy"
2004.12.02 01:30
Description: Ukraine, perfection of Orwellian "well planned drama" media perception around IMF/CIA/NED coup as a "grass roots democratic reform"; how it's done --- "Among the numerous Western foundations, the [Orwellian named] National Endowment for Democracy (NED), although not officially part of the CIA, performs an important intelligence function in shaping party politics in the former Soviet Union, Eastern Europe and around the World. [NED additionally involved in funding of Venezuelan coup against Chavez.] NED was created in 1983, when the CIA was being accused of covertly bribing politicians and setting up phony civil society front organizations. According to Allen Weinstein, who was responsible for establishing the NED during the Reagan Administration: "A lot of what we [NED] do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA." (Washington Post, Sept. 21, 1991). --- "Pora's posters plastered all over Ukraine DEPICT A JACKBOOT crushing a beetle, an allegory of what Pora wants to do to its opponents. It was like this during Nazi-occupied Ukraine,...Nobody in the West has said anything against these posters. Pora continues to be presented [by CNN] as an innocent band of students having fun. But it is an organization created and financed by Washington, as were sister organizations in Serbia and Georgia, Otpor and Kmara." --- "It is claimed that officially the US government spent US$41 million to fund the year-long operation to get rid of Milosevich from October 1999. In Ukraine, the figure is said to be about $14 million so far."

More about Georgia and Serbia as well.

GHWB introduced the whole thing by having active CIA in his 1980 campaign, according to the Tarpley book.

2/04/2008 04:25:00 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

More on the cut internet oceanic cables: Iranian Oil Bourse would have opened this week--except not now because the massive loss of internet connectivity the week before in Iran...

Couple of links that might explain the motives.

Iran oil bourse scheduled

EB reader BB writes:
Iran was scheduled to inaugurate its Oil Bourse this coming week.

That probably isn't going to happen because all internet access in Iran was cut over the weekend (the undersea cables were chopped). This was mentioned on Wikipedia for a day... but now the article links and coverage have disappeared.

Iran is in total internet blackout at the moment. Any further information is appreciated.

Iran Oil Bourse to deal blow to dollar
MK/JG/RE/HAR, Iran Press TV
The long-awaited Iranian Oil Bourse, a place for trading oil, petrochemicals and gas in various non-dollar currencies, will soon open.

Iran's Finance Minister Davoud Danesh-Jafari told reporters the bourse will be inaugurated during the anniversary of the Islamic Revolution (February 1-11) at the latest.

"All preparations have been made to launch the bourse; it will open during the Ten-Day Dawn (the ceremonies marking the victory of the 1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran)," he said.

The Minister had earlier stated that the Oil Bourse is located on the Persian Gulf island of Kish.

Some expert opinions hold inauguration of the bourse could significantly devalue the greenback.
(4 January 2008)
Also reported at IranMania and mentioned in a report from Global Research (Jan 23, 2008). Otherwise, no reports seem to appear in the media.

2/04/2008 10:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Disinformation Alert said...

ATTENTION: Iran is not disconnected!

2/04/2008 02:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Dragonfly said...

Check out the time monks post today (Half Past Human and Urban Survival). Especially for those discriminating minds that lurk here, I feel there is merit in posting this long snip, that may be scrolled past if deemed prudent. Long Read, Important Read (?), offered for choice, decide if there is merit as a tool in the arsenal of truth and loathing .... in the sandbox:

Frontiers of Thought Control?


You need some background to understand this rather longish report today, so here goes. Since before 9/11, which was described here in mid July 2001 in advance as a "tipping point" in computer modelspace, after which our lives would be forever changed, I've been pleased to bring the occasional insight into the future that has been based on a radical field of study called "predictive linguistics." In this arcane field of study made up almost exclusively of academic institutions, national level organizations, and perhaps a few savvy governments, it's held that big events in the future leak into the present.

If you think about a future event like it's a big rock thrown into a pond, the ripples that are apparent after and event is called history. But, we don't have a name for the ripples that ripple into the event's past - which is from where we sit on the timeline, still in the future.

So in an effort to capture some of these 'waves of the future', practitioners of radical predictive linguistics sweep huge portions of the internet seeking telltale shifts of word use; the subconscious mass mind of humans 'leaking' bits of the future to knowledgeable observers who are capable of using massive inter-human communication as a kind of synthetic aperture antenna to pick up the subtle waves of what's ahead.

This much, I've explained before, usually about 'things to come' - such as the winds/regional disaster due between now and summer, the building mood of revolution against the Powers That Be/corpgov [ruling of humans by others], and of course, the big 'release events' starting economically around the first week of October. Oh, and grain prices going up between now and summer just to as a practical matter.

But what's new this morning, is that our predictive linguistics team has picked up something going on at certain places about the internet, mainly in discussion groups and forums (*multiple forums are called 'the fora' by the software team); a subtle effort to use the net for a kind of mind control or preconditioning in advance of events that are actually planned. Details in a special report from Cliff - the low profile/near recluse who's mastermind of the project:

"Meta Arts - Memeering

Over the course of the past several years of our linguistic sweepings study, we have become aware of many organized groups who also are sweeping/mining/polling for their own purposes.

Approximately 3/three years ago, we thought that we were picking up some new form of internet monkey-mind business, though at that time it was even questionable that a pattern was actually developing. Sort of like seeing the faint hint of where the foot print in the sand was just prior to the wave having washed over it. That is all it was, just faint 'footprint residues' within our linguistic aggregations.

Over the course of 2005, I became increasingly convinced that a pattern of specific linguistic manipulation was being swept up in our data gathering, and in the following year, we introduced several new prolog programs as data filters to our processing. In the effort to increase the granularity of our predictions and to refine our timing sense in the forecasts, we also enhanced our data filters to the level of 'traps' for the types of patterns I suspected were being picked up. In 2007, we were successful in isolating a few of these patterns within each run, and during the 'down time' in the processing, I had begun to craft programs to analyze just these aberrant patterns.

I labeled this pattern of linguistic manipulation a 'memeering' as it appears as a single meme being floated to consciousness within a selected group of fora. These sites have been chosen deliberately as was revealed by the pattern of accretions of specific words. These sites are being deliberately targeted for an as yet unknown purpose. These sites are 'seeded' by the manipulators, likely a team of computer jocks being led by a psychologist/psychiatrist who is in their turn being directed by a higher pay grade administrator tasked by his masters with getting specific 'words out there'.

The supposition that I labor under now is that this group, or these groups involved with this manipulation are attempting to use the internet as an 'energy dump', and to trigger that emotional energy via specific high resonance linguistics. [*Words, phrases, and concepts that will "ring true" at some preconscious level and pass under your perception threshold unchallenged by critical thought - G]

To understand the why's of this effort, we should begin with Robert Hitt ( He is an astrologer and fellow hyperdimensional traveler. His astrology is/has been targeted at large moving masses such as we might find in the Markets entity. He has been successful, and as a rational human with clear intentions, has even managed to learn from his failures. This learning process has allowed him to develop a sophisticated understanding of the 'energies'

involved within such large mass human activities.

From this knowledge base, Robert has developed several theories, with a particular theory being of interest at this point. Robert's theory can be relabeled as the 'gotta go somewhere' theory of emotional energy. As he will likely forgive me for renaming it, I will continue to explain that the basic idea is that X amount of emotional energy builds within a human based system such as the markets. The astrology allows for the prediction of how those energies currently held within the humans within the mass system will express themselves. Sometimes *all* the predictions and the astrology are unequivocal, that is, damn clear that outcome Z will occur. Only it does not.

Instead, that day that predicted outcome Z is to manifest, a *something else* pops up instead to 'consume' the energies otherwise headed into the markets. With shocking consistency this pattern of 'energies gotta go somewhere' have been very apparent in recent decades, and especially this century. A very large number of people were 'expecting' a very large market crash on September 11, 2001. Instead.... well, history.

And then more recently the pattern had emerged when yet another large amount of predictions were going toward another markets set back, and lo...that day the Virginia college shooting occurred which left 32/thirty two victims, and the perpetrator dead. Note that this adds up to the 'significant' number of 33/thirty three. Also note that that day, the markets did *not* tank as expected, and as forecast. Again and again these past several years evidence of the Hitt energy displacement theory have been showing up.

We now think that we have picked up a corollary to that theory being attempted. In this corollary the idea is that the [energies] of an emotional nature, which have to go somewhere, are being 'pre set' or staged via manipulation of thoughts via the internet. Basically the context of the patterns we have captured suggest that "someone(s)" are attempting to "pump up" the emotional tensions around certain contexts at certain times. The patterns are clear within our very large aggregations as deliberate and organized 'meme - engineering' or our label of memeering. Our 'memeering' also breaks down into 'memee ring', which is how we discovered the patterns to be used.

The 'memeering' fellows can be found by noticing a distinctly non-random pattern for specific linguistics appearing at context linked site ring.

An example of a context linked site ring would be [*a site focus or main topic of - G] "international bonds", or "international commodities", or "space aliens", or "illuminati conspiracy". In all these instances there is a large central context which can easily be identified within each site. There may or may not be any actually link trading between these sites. The operators of these sites may or may not be aware that individual forums under their control are being used for the purpose of seeding these linguistics. The operators of these sites are likely not aware that they have been chosen by the memeeringers {ed note: rather a nasty mouthful} as part of a specific pattern spreading algorithm.

We are fairly certain that at least 3/three governments [*Note 1] can be identified as employing the memeering techniques, though it is unclear if they are each in the business, or if a central contractor is involved. Further we have fairly clear evidence of several lower level commercial/political memeering going on.

The aware observer may be able to catch the memeering being used in near real time by following several context linked sites with large fora operations, or very high traffic, and then watching for the appearance of very damn similar linguistics around a small, and emotionally charged meme.

An example might be the appearance of the 'race' meme within the political fora in the week leading up to its appearance within the global mediastream as the 'theme of the week'. Other examples are easily seen when they 'stick out' from the usual postings within the forum. An example might be a big-"C" conservative theme which appears within the 'space alien' site ring. It does happen. We can't yet say if this is by mistake, or a shot-gun approach, or a what-not? But it does happen. It was such a happenstance which first alerted our software spiders years ago.

The use of memeering does explicitly point to attempts to use corollaries of Robert Hitt's postulate of 'energy gotta go somewhere' for specific, and seemingly power-reinforcing, goals.

The idea that 'seeds' of thought which have been emotionally-charged via linguistic analysis are being sown on the internet is a bit scary. This is actual, demonstrable evidence that [mind control via media], a well defined context within the ThePowersThatBe entity, has been escalated from the global broadcast mediastream out to the individual experience of the internet.

So for now, our processing filters are finding, and discarding the planted 'seed memes', though we do find the responses to be useful, and usually

*not* within the memeering process, and so are using some of these within our larger aggregation of aspect/attributes. But on the whole, we are discounting the meme seeds, but not throwing them away. It sometimes is useful to be aware of such plants growing in the giant mental garden of the collective consensus reality.

Be careful out there, the emotions you are experiencing *may* not be your own, or universe inspired. They may be planted...for someone else's purpose. The aware observer will be cognizant of how they are being affected by what is being place there for them to read. Of course the memeering designers recognize that the schooled mind will accept any kind of thing shoved down its pie hole, while the educated mind can entertain the idea without necessarily accepting it...or in this case, getting their emotional energy redirected by it.

Igor is going to be working on a taxonomy of such internet plants which we will make available as a 'field manual for identification' at some future time. "

[Note 1: Cliff and I had a conversation about whether we should really label government as a memeering group. I argued that unless we had quite specific proof, we should instead use the term 'national level entity' to describe these memeeringers. But Cliff argues that with the implied size/power of the 'national level entities' I reference, it's really 'government' for all intents are purposes, and that we should be clear that the government we elect is not the government that does the governing. Big money is, after all, effectively governs anyway. Point taken.]

Along about now you're likely wondering "Who is behind the high level memeering operations, and how would I spot one?"

The answer to the first question is that the team has isolated three groups of meme. We'll call these an Anglo group of high sophistication, a Middle East/Islamic group which is more obvious in their efforts, and a third (or more) group(s) which we just call "Other" for now.

The second question, how to spot one is simple: Next time you go to a discussion forum and see a post which asks a rhetorical question that goes to some sensitive area of feelings/emotions, don't be sucked in to reading the 10-20 sentence emotion tweaking that is tied to it.

Or, if you read foreign forums/fora, be careful of posts that are formed this way and yet which don't make sense. Cliff and Igor seem to get a kick out of memeering done badly, such as translating what was intended in one case to be the concept of "bad taste in your mouth" to something akin to 'foul tasting bird.'


An open question is whether memeering could be a toll used by groups such as the Plunge Protection Team, a/k/a the President Working Group On Markets.

A well read person might imagine that if the PPT was really trying to prevent the onset of an economic Depression which could dwarf the 1930's event, they would use every tool in their arsenal, which would no doubt be formed up around doctrinal DIME theory (*diplomatic, informational, diplomatic, and economic). If such an 'all tools are available for use' approach was taken, then conceivably, memeering could be an integrated portion of an informational strategy.

Not saying this is the case, however. Far from it. Still, it's just the kind of half-formed question that lurks in the back of the mind when the markets seem to act in an irrational way.

With an emotional 'hot date' up around February 5th, I find myself scanning the headlines trying to discern whether Hitt's theory of "emotional energy gotta go somewhere" will be played out again.

2/04/2008 06:37:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

Dragonfly - thanx for the first thing really worth reading here in some time. I usually hate big posts, but that shit just gotta be disseminated.

The title Half Past Human is shared with the odd website by one of the greatest pieces of predictive hard sci-fi ever written, the novel of the same name by T.J. Bass. Read it if you haven't - it's mind-freeing stuff.

Lord R.

2/04/2008 07:15:00 PM  
Anonymous I Want My Memmy said...

Can a post about memeering be considered memeering? I think it can especially when followed by Lard Repton's emotional cheerleading and call to spread the meme of memeering.

2/04/2008 08:12:00 PM  
Anonymous memephobe said...

I'm not listening!

2/04/2008 08:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Eustachian Tube said...

It's most effective when you're not listening.

2/04/2008 09:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Hardy Boys.... My brother loved the hardy boys. I believe he collected every book (the hardback volumes in blue, probably worth a pretty penny if my mom saved them). But I rejected them. I cant remember why, except that I remember preferring The Great Brain stories and animal stories (Jack London, Algonquin, Where the Red Fern Grows, etc). The Hardy Boys (at least the one or two stories that I did read) iirc seemed extremely contrived. "Nice Boys", you know, for whom everything works itself out no matter the mistakes they've made or the mess they've gotten themselves into. I dont believe I would allow my son to consume The Hardy Boys overly much, lol...

Britney is back in the "news" again today. Do you suppose there is anything to the fact that her initials also symbolise BullShit?

2/05/2008 04:29:00 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

Well, it's up to us to talk about something else except B.S. (all abbreviations implied there.)

Taking the initiative away from the corporate media is still our collective responsibility.

We could talk about how the Trilateral Commission are controlling both the Clinton and Obama campaign. It's a clean
repeat of the 1976 elections when all parties were Trilateral sponsors, a bit wider...).

Don't forget that Trilateral members are uncannily the rolodex of 9-11 perpetrators in the USA. Rabbit hole for you to explore there:

[Title: CONNECTING THE DOTS: Rockefeller Trilateral Terrorism of 1976, building WTC to detonate it
Author: connecting some dots
Date: 2007.03.22 11:57
Description: Previously noted was formal court RICO suit of 2004 by Pentagon brass McNiven against Bush Senior, CIA head, & his 1976 state terror plan to hit WTCs ...

Election (Un)coverage 2008:


Obama Campaign Linked
To Chechen Terrorism

Grant Of Taxpayer-Funded U.S. Asylum For Chechen Terror
Envoy Gave Obama Foreign Policy Guru Zbigniew Brzezinski
'One Of The Happiest Days Of My Life'
By Webster G. Tarpley

"I am glad [Brzezinski] is a "former" national security adviser. Hatred cannot drive foreign policy." Russian UN ambassador (now Foreign Minister) Sergei Lavrov, Charlie Rose program, March 25, 1999

"How would Americans feel if Russia offered sanctuary to Osama bin Laden?" --

If the American public were generally aware that the "foreign minister" of one of the most murderous terrorist organizations in the world, a man whose extradition on terrorism charges is sought by at least one UN Security Council permanent member, is living openly in Washington DC, they might be indignant. If Americans knew that this is the "foreign minister" of a terrorist group specializing in killing women and children first in a hospital, then in a school, and later defenseless civilians in a theater, their indignation might grow into rage. If they knew that this envoy for terrorists is living in the comfortable Woodley Park neighborhood of Washington DC with a lifestyle most Americans could not afford, with an office, a secretary, a travel budget, and a public relations budget all paid for at the expense of the US taxpayers, with State Department checks signed by Condoleeza Rice, they might be furious. If they knew that this ambassador for terrorists had been set up in his current all expenses paid, taxpayer-funded lifestyle by a man who is the main image adviser and the main foreign policy adviser to Barack Obama, their view of the Illinois senator and his qualifications for the presidency might well undergo a radical change.

And yet, all this is reality. The terrorist organization in question is the Chechen rebel group associated with the names of two of the greatest butchers of our time, Aslan Maskhadov and Shamil Basayev, both deceased even though the organization they built fights on. The foreign minister and ambassador for this terrorist group is Ilyas Khamzatovich Akhmadov (born December 19, 1960, who was granted political asylum in the United States in 2003. Akhmadov's patron is none other than Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former head of the National Security Council during the Jimmy Carter administration and, before that the co-founder with David Rockefeller of the Trilateral Commission in 1973.

Zbigniew Brezezinski in turn is not only the main foreign policy adviser to the Barack Obama presidential campaign; Zbigniew is in many ways the creator of the public relations image profile now being used by Obama in his quest for the White House, an image that is developed in Zbig's latest book, Second Chance..."



Illinois Senator Barack Obama has finally signed the American Freedom Pledge, joining his fellow Democratic presidential candidates in encouraging the restoration of basic Constitutional principles after the battering they have taken during the Bush-Cheney era.

All the Democrats, that is, except New York Senator Hillary Clinton..."


Hillary Clinton: A Bilderberg Presidency
European elite back Democratic frontrunner

Related: Hillary Denies Attending Bilderberg, Confirms Bill Did

Old-thinker news | Nov. 8, 2007
By Daniel Taylor

"...Hillary will be good for America... we'll be very pleased that she's president." -- Lynn Forester de Rothschild, Portfolio magazine, October 5, 2007

While President Bush's approval rating falls to record lows, the torch is being prepared to pass on to Hillary Clinton, with full endorsement from the global elite. With support from European nobility, Clinton has been selected as the candidate of choice for the continuation of globalist policies. Bill Clinton, being a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, as well as the secretive Bilderberg group, was the creme de la creme establishment candidate. His wife, Hillary, who likely attended the 2006 Bilderberg conference in Ottawa Canada, now promises to follow in his path...."


Obama Economic Controller
Is Skull And Bones Member
Austan 'The Ghoul' Goolsbee, Yale '91

By Webster Tarpley


WASHINGTON DC -- Barack Obama's top economics adviser is a member of the super-secret Skull & Bones society of Yale University, of which George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, and John Kerry are also members, reliable sources confirmed tonight. Goolsbee is widely reported to have told Obama not to back a compulsory freeze on home mortgage foreclosures to help the struggling middle class in the current depression crisis, as demanded by former candidate John Edwards. Hillary Clinton has advocated a one-year voluntary freeze on foreclosures. Obama has offered counselors to comfort mortgage victims as they are dispossessed, citing the 'moral hazard' of protecting the public interest from Wall Street sharks.

By adding the infamous Skull & Bones secret society to his campaign roster, Obama, who bills himself as the candidate of change and hope, has attained a prefect trifecta of oligarchical and financier establishment backing for his attempt to seize the nomination of the Democratic Party for 2008."

That's why voting or 'policy change' promises aren't going to get you anywhere, particularly sustainability. Use other methods:

"The argument of the bioregional state is that sustainability is unachievable without formal democratic institutional change (that would interact with other institutional additions in educational frameworks, local consumptive issues, and financial issues).

Other people have offered other methods to get to sustainability of course. What about these different methods to get there? Other routes are only indirect, susceptible to corruption, and have a history of backsliding...

2/05/2008 05:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Americans knew.....

Well, Americans DO know. Brezhinsky, Kissinger, Rumsfeld, Bush-A, Kennedy, Roosevelt(s), Truman, just list any name from intelligence or upper levels of government and they are or were wanted somewhere by someone.

I can copy over a 700 page book about this stuff here into this comments thread but its kind of silly, dont you think? Comments areas are for [drum roll] COMMENTS. Not expositions. Why not provide a link and your thoughts on the matter? Then we can have a discussion. Pasting in bilious volumes of dubious material merely leads to each and every visitor ignoring every other and proceeding with his own monologue or diatribe.

At any rate, this is something about the Tri-Lateral Commission? OK. Well, I've heard of them and read various "expose"(s). I remain unimpressed. True or not, what do you propose? If merely to disseminate your information, you are shooting yourself in the foot, as I'm pointing out above...

2/05/2008 08:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Bob The Bilderberg said...

So I guess that means the Bilderberg Group is taking a backseat in this election? How many groups does the NWO need? Wouldn't just one do? One that we would never know about?

2/05/2008 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous conspiracy podcast said...

Well Bob, it takes more than one block to support the capstone of a pyramid, but only just a few. Maybe 3?

Those 3 would each be supported by several more beneath them. All the lower blocks know is that whatever is bearing down upon them is fucking heavy.

Which is ironic when you consider Pike's "pure doctrine of Lucifer," the Bringer of Light.

Heavy light, I guess?

2/05/2008 10:34:00 AM  
Blogger fletcher said...

y'know what would be nice?
If Jeff actually had a bit of a dialogue on the comments section with the other
like in the olden days of rigorousintuition.
He's like Prometheus!

2/05/2008 01:14:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Dialogue this. More Obama wierdness...

[The ultimate real life "Luke, I am your father...; Obama, I Cheney am your relative."]

Odinga says Obama is his cousin

Split picture Kenyan opposition leader Raila Odinga (l) and US presidential hopeful Senator Barack Obama (r) Mr Obama (r) is descended from the same Luo tribe as Mr Odinga (l)

Odinga on Obama

Kenyan opposition leader Raila Odinga [whom the U.S. coupmeisters seem intent on installing or aiding...] has said he is a cousin of US presidential hopeful Barack Obama.

Mr Odinga told the BBC's The World Today that Senator Obama's father was his maternal uncle.

Mr Obama's father - a Kenyan also called Barack - met and married his American mother when they were students at the university of Hawaii.

Mr Obama has previously been identified as a distant cousin of Vice-President Dick Cheney.

2/05/2008 01:54:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Interesting claim/video floating about, so I'll float it back here. We've seen how a major 'deep state' aspect of the USA's real power elite is a blackmail network of pedophilia and gay sex. The claim is that "Mr. Obama has continued to lie about his past in regards to his use and sale of drugs and his sex with a gay male in 1999."

2 min

2/05/2008 02:01:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Thanks, Jeff, for all the fish...and,

an Invitation to the rest of y'all to Coalesce Around Something (more) Real

I’m not sure why I’m taking the time to write this—I have many much more pressing affairs, and the air seems to be going out of this balloon anyway, but I guess it’s a sense of gratitude that compels me. That air in the Rigorous blimp may have been overheated at times, but it’s been a great ride and I’m grateful & glad to have taken part in so many rides.

Lots of folks are probably bumming about the decline in the service around here, but that’s the nature of things. How many books start with The Rise and Fall of…? How many times have the forest giants bowed down to the new growth clamoring for air & light?

I do hope Jeff can heal himself and find a reason to keep posting. His despair is understandable, but it’s also not the only alternative. We’ve known all along that things were headed in a very bad direction; what surprise is it that the Owners have assumed such dominance or that they’ve so recklessly raped & pillaged the earth?

That’s what tyrants have always done—why should a Soft(er) Tyranny work any differently?

Sure, push has apparently come to shove, but the light hasn’t gone out of the world yet. In fact, paradoxically enough, it’s just when (and quite possibly because) the writing on the wall has become legible enough for everyone to read it, not just the seers and prophets of tomorrow, that we might finally have a chance to right the Balance. For most of recorded human history, we’ve denied there even was a balance, that we live on a fragile oasis hurtling through space, that we can’t indefinitely keep on taking without giving back.

It’s only in the last blink of God’s eye that we’ve dimly apprehended that the universe is infinitely interconnected, that all life is in some sense sentient and that the creatures & places & “things” that we exploit for sustenance, fun & profit are actually sacred.

The materialists thought they had banished the sacred, the reverence for life, and then lo and behold, in the very hour of their triumph, as Richard Dawkins so proudly struts his popinjay jig of victory over the superstitious masses…it’s their own science which begins to discover what the mystics in their huts knew 5,000 years ago.

There is no 'wall' between mind & matter.

In hundreds of rigorously peer-reviewed papers & experiments, we’ve finally realized that consciousness does affect the material world after all.

The implications of this are so far reaching that the dozens of books reveling in the possibilities haven’t yet scratched the surface of the world hidden behind our five primordial senses. The foundations of traditional Western materialist science, only a few years ago supremely confident of its mastery, are cracked and no amount of backtracking putty will hold it together. Descartes’ wall is breached; Newton’s mechanics only work in one half of the building, and Einstein’s band-aid is peeling.

Even the newest wall they’ve erected--the one that separates what goes on in the macro world from what transpires in the quantum playground--is blowing & bending in the wind of a frightening realization: as above, so below still obtains, except that this time—finally!—it’s turned around.

In the old days, you see, when kings were not ashamed to claim be divinely ordained, as above, so below was understood to hold together the Great Chain of Being. You know, as in the fairly full version from Aquinas:

Knights/Local Officials
Yeomen Farmers
Soldiers/Town Watch
Household Servants
Tennant Farmers

When the Enlightenment broke this chain, regardless of how you view their intentions, they didn’t really throw out the "necessity" of the hierarchy it contained, just the interdependence and the responsibility that each link had to the next and to the whole. Here’s the point at which you can begin to question their motivation, though, because without all those entangling relationships and responsibilities, why, you could really squeeze some blood from a turnip—the new alchemy!

This is why the Elizabethans mistrusted “ambitious men,” those breakers of the Chain, like Macbeth whose greed could not be constrained by bonds of decency and the obligation to provide for those ‘below’ him. If those Enlightended Ones had been thinking of something along the lines of what the American founding fathers pretended to—an egalitarian society, where all men were treated equally, the ancient dream of serf, slave and ploughman—then we might have escaped the Age of Rape, but that’s not what any of them had (or have!) in mind.

And now, all this time and the many “failed revolutions” later, as we squirm nervously at the Empire’s Nervous Breakdown, the old links melted down for bricks in the golden pyramid are starting to hum and vibrate with a scary urgency. The world is sliding into another passage, another transitional state, and the possibilities looming are as various as they ever were.

Old dreams die hard.

We on the fringe (or so we think ourselves) have become strident & brittle & hopeful & despairing by turn at what comes with the Wheel’s next turning, and yet...

Never before have so many been aware of the unfairness of the world of Owners and Tenants. Or of the alternatives! While it’s true that the “researches” of the disaffected (into the web of deceptions that have sustained the Owners in their privilege & power) have been very skillfully contained by the many boxes into which they’ve either been put or walked themselves ("muckraker," "radical," "conspiracy theorist," etc.), the plain truth of a world where the Have-Nots so clearly out number the Haves is not so easily Photo-Shopped out of everyone’s picture of the world.

And the importance of that picture is only now being understood.

One look at the the Wiki page on conspiracy theories will demonstrate just how weak those containment walls have become. Quoting Frank Mintz, the Wike tells us that conspiracism denotes: "belief in the primacy of conspiracies in the unfolding of history":

Conspiracism serves the needs of diverse political and social groups in America and elsewhere. It identifies elites, blames them for economic and social catastrophes, and assumes that things will be better once popular action can remove them from positions of power. As such, conspiracy theories do not typify a particular epoch or ideology.[11]

No, the notion that an ever smaller handful of greedy fucks is steering our spaceship does not “typify a particular epoch or ideology". When 358 families own 52% of the world’s assets, it starts to look as though the old pyramid is getting taller and skinnier. If this keeps up, it'll look like the Washington monument one day soon, fittingly enough.

And the story they tell us to tell ourselves about why things must be this way—it’s Progress; it’s the Great Uplift of Capitalism; it’s Only Natural (where Nature is a cruel beast whom we have to slash & burn to survive); it’s Only Security (in a world where everyone else is jealous of our freedoms, not what we have stolen or denied to them) is like an old sheet that’s been washed too many times: it’s becoming more transparent with every (white) washing.

So thin has the Illusion become that we don’t really need to sit in our boxes any more. Pick an issue, any issue, and ask cui bono? (Sure it’s on the Wiki page as a defining mark of the crazy person who would question the status quo, but the dispossessed & disaffected can sling Latin phrases, too.) Take the arms trade, it’s an easy one. You can’t look at the relationship between profits and bullets and not see a relationship—a highly immoral, creepily incestuous relationship at that. You’ve got politicians bending over for defense contractors and lobbying groups blowing (gently) into the ears of Media (the FCC doesn’t mind—it panders to industry on a truly equal basis, with no sentimental notions of “public service” or “good.”)

It’s all about the money, you see, as anyone can tell you. Morality is just the ill-fitting drag that our flabby, alcoholic congresspersons squeeze their marbled flesh into when it’s time for photo-ops and speeches about Why We Fight. No speeches are required to explain why we let all those brown people die in the hail of bullets Made in USA.

Or, take poverty. The Newtonian-Malthusian-Darwinists tell us that just like the “intractable conflicts” we can’t solve (but can make a really sweet profit on), we can’t just go around feeding those people who are too irresponsible to be born in a wunnerful country like ours, ‘cuz they’ll just "breed like rats" anyway. If they get you to say that often enough, then those tiny stick figures who occasionally pop up in the “News” become less and less human, too. It’s easier that way to enjoy what drops from the Owners’ table—it’s not noblesse oblige, it’s a soothing balm for our conscience.

Otherwise, we’d all stand up and say, “WTF?!”

Especially when our cui bono? into the poverty racket turns up tremendous profits there, too. Funny thing about that ever-so-strenuously disallowed question: no matter which patch of human misery or source of doom you turn it on, you’ll always find some smarmy, sanctimonious Suit making fucking money on it. (Or maybe some brutal warlord we support, protect, or turn a blind eye to solidifying his power…same thing.)

But it’s their hubris that will be their downfall. It always is. They think they’ve got it all sewn up and they’re too busy playing Benevolent Despot to listen to the reports of their eyes & ears in the field: the natives are growing restless again, and this time the Owners have grown so confident that they’re telling them to eat dirt!

As if it wasn’t arrogant enough when it was cake they suggested…

The difference this time is what Jeff tried to explain a while back about empathy being a weapon, the only one we had (as if it somehow weren’t enough, I got the impression at the time): the new Story we tell ourselves will be as below, so above, just like the way the universe reinvents itself, by using our consciousness to make it ‘real.’ The new Chain of Being will be more like a spiderweb of strands connecting us on the same level—chains are for slaves and their masters, after all, the chemical-memetical bonds of the old alchemies.

We know we all need the same things…how far behind can the understanding come that we are all equally deserving of those same things? Actually, we knew it once, a very long time ago—that all of the universe is contained in the tiniest part, despite its infinite, shifting complexity:

As is the human body, so is the cosmic body.
As is the human mind, so is the cosmic mind.
As is the microcosm, so is the macrocosm.
As is the atom, so is the universe.

- The Upanishads

2/05/2008 04:08:00 PM  
Anonymous The Cable Guy said...

Oh my God they've gone and cut a fifth cable! Do any of you realize the significance of the fifth cable? I'll tell you this, it's highly significant. Five is the number of points on the pentagram and the number of sides on the pentagon. It was intended from the start to be five cables to symbolize the massive and overwhelming onslaught that's about to ensue. The entire world is facing an unprecedented yet planned catastrophe of monumental proportions. It will usher in the long awaited new world order. People will beg for the nwo when the suffering hits the first world, and it will deeply affect the first world with this catastrophe. The first world and the third world will become one world. There will be no distinction once this runs its course. The return of feudalism is upon us, and there's nothing we can do but hope to die early on and as painlessly as possible in the calamity. You can't run and hide from this. Your houses made of shit can't and won't protect you. Kiss your asses goodbye. Your computers will soon be worthless.

2/05/2008 07:49:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

Now that freshened up my day. Tremble, peons, for your computers shall be worthless in the face of your doom! Funky - and probably true. Things do seem to be geting awfully tippy lately - could spiral into a truly mind-buggering war any day. Comms would be down first. The current cable-cutting might just be practice or cover for some incident already past. Or it could be a part of a major strategic move. Wish we had a generator and a good radio.

Holding on to my hat,
Lord Reptor.

2/05/2008 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous trachys said...

GGG are you drew hempel? If so, just post a link to The Tao Bums forum. If not, just post a link to The Tao Bums forum.

2/06/2008 12:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Allow me to sum up the post by iridescent cuttlefish:

"You deserve more than what the powerful allow you to survive upon."

Wasn't that much easier? Although I did enjoy the link to the dirt cookie article. But let me ask you, do you suppose these people eatting dirt cookies need to be told they ought to be able to get food?

Is there some point flying over my head that required 1000 words to express?

At any rate, is Jeff Wells in despair? He has a book deal, lol. Will he take whatever money he gets from this and buy guns, or will he build a church and await Jesus' return? Because this is the only question that makes any sense. The rest is all fluff and flutter...

2/06/2008 12:43:00 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

There may have been nine or more cables cut undersea in the Muslim world of states in the past week and a half. Nice summary article, particularly mentioning the monetary union that the Muslim states wanted to get done by 2010 and how Kuwait is already moving away from dependence on pegging to the U.S. fiat currency.

2/06/2008 04:21:00 AM  
Anonymous hajj said...

Quick update. Confidential sources now claim that 11 cables have been cut. That's 9+1+1, or 911. OH MY GOD. This means another world-changing event like 911 is in the offing. They're hiding in plane sight once again. It's time to bomb Kuwait and turn the Middle East into glass. We may have seen the last Dubais Desert Classic. If you were planning a pilgrimage to Mecca you better go now before it's too late.

2/06/2008 07:03:00 AM  
Blogger fletcher said...

I love how people like to make jokes about the NWO.
Hell, I do too.
But they're more like nervous little jokes that really aren't funny, unless you have a twisted sense of humour, or are talking with your Alex Jones loving buddy. and they get the joke.
But seriously.
either nothing changes or everything changes or everything changes so slowly that it's the frog in the frying pan metaphor.


2/06/2008 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous smel brook said...

You're right fletcher, jokes about the nwo are in bad taste.

2/06/2008 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Here's a typical comment from the link about Haitians eating dirt...


I believe some of the people posting here would have a similar response.

The fear of losing one's internet connection is more pressing in the minds of the "halves" that have no fear about whether they are going to eat today.....

2/06/2008 10:07:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Actually, Anonymous 2/06/2008 12:43:00 AM, the problem with what I wrote there was that it didn't belong here. A friend emailed me last night, saying what a "great introduction to a book about transforming the world into a better place" it would be (once edited, of course). I realized after reading that and what you wrote, not getting what all those words were about, that he was right; that what I've been doing here all along is writing that book, which is probably why I've never quite "fit in" here, as expansive and nut-filled as this mix has always been.

Whether the world really needs or wants another book about changing itself is a valid question, but judging from your summation, I'd say it needs it pretty desperately:

At any rate, is Jeff Wells in despair? He has a book deal, lol. Will he take whatever money he gets from this and buy guns, or will he build a church and await Jesus' return? Because this is the only question that makes any sense.

On the first point, whether Jeff is feeling some sort of despair, well, it might have more to with what he's been writing here of late than how much money he's getting with his book deal. I know that's an unfathomable sentiment to a lot of folks, as we see with your notion that a.) his happiness and general state of mind is only affected by how much money he has, and b.) once he gets his happiness in those funny-colored Canadian dollars, his (and our) only relevant choices are whether to buy guns or build a rapture capsule.

Jeff himself describes exactly your thinking in the one passage that's at the heart of both of these Nervous Breakdown posts:

Because here's the thing: even when the system works as advertised it contemptuously defrauds and disenfranchises citizens who take their politics like detached spectators. Obama and Clinton are two contenders in a fight club of closed ranks and consensus brutality with interchangeable corners. The outcome of this contest for advancement upon our lives - American lives and everyone else with a seat at the arena - will mean just as much as who wins the Super Bowl or the Oscar, should we have any emotional investment in the outcome of those contests. Because the only change to be registered will be how we feel about it. That's supposed to be enough, and it's been that way long enough that for many, it is.

Now, to me, that's a clear enough indication that Jeff has barfed in his flight bag and doesn't care to look out the window anymore--it's all the same shit anyway, right? I was frankly shocked by his reaction to the Spectacle because he knew all this long ago; what was he expecting, elections that mattered?

Jeff has explored other territory in the past--lots of it, in fact, but these regions of the human thoughtscape are admittedly a little esoteric for the scratch-the-underwear-what's-in-the-fridge crowd, as they have to do with the world of ideas. All those posts about consciousness and the universe...remember? Right, well you may have ducked out for a beer just then, but the point is that this has been a strong undercurrent here for a long time.

While it's true that ideas won't buy you lunch, I'd wager that they're the only thing capable of changing the world.

Two last observations on what you got out of my introduction:

"You deserve more than what the powerful allow you to survive upon."

Do you really think that this is so widely accepted then that it needs no further explanation? How come it ain't happening? (Here's a bit of a clue: that's what I was trying to get at!)

Don't buy the book.

"Wasn't that much easier?"

Well, yeah, but it didn't begin to explain why.

Maybe you should buy the book.

"But let me ask you, do you suppose these people eatting dirt cookies need to be told they ought to be able to get food?"

No, they don't need to be told that, it's the rest of us who are content on our better rations who need to realize that we aren't free while someone else is not--it's that empathy thing, you see...

Is there some point flying over my head that required 1000 words to express?...The rest is all fluff and flutter...

Well, you do have a point there, but how was I to know that your head was in the fridge looking for a beer or pondering Brittney & Kevin & Hillary & Obama's dilemma? Or Jeff's pressing need to spend all that loot on the only obvious alternatives?

The real challenge in writing many thousands of words trying to explain the ideas I just so lightly touched upon in that offensive piece of fluff is deciding how anyone not already at least somewhat familiar with them will possibly keep from scratching their head and saying, "What the fuck is this shit about?! Anybody see the remote?"

At any rate, I do thank you for your critique, as it's just as valuable as my friend's, the guy that would presumably buy the fluttering pile of leaves I'm so busy scattering. It's good to know just what to expect.

2/06/2008 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Cold Evil said...

I don't think anyone here would have that response. How about you name names if you feel that way? What is happening to these people is happening institutionally and it's an action of Cold Evil. People don't consciously go out and vote to have Haitians starve, but their vote, or their participation in an institutionalized system that purposely starves Haitians is complicity in that Hot Evil, even if it is detached and ambiguous. I also believe people choose not to see either of the evils, similar to a mother who chooses to ignore the fact that her husband is molesting her children. How many times have we heard that story? Too many. It's a complex issue and educating people to think critically and act individually rather than going along with the crowd is a mounumental undertaking. It can be done but the odds are slim. Our entire education system would have to be dismantled philosophically and operationally and built anew from the ground up. Feeding the poor so they don't have to eat dirt is an admirable goal as a stop gap measure, but if the issue of Cold Evil is not recognized and addressed and the institutionalism that purposely renders the starvation isn't eradicated then the stop gap will be irrelevant. A weed, in this case the existence of the status of being poor and the plight of being poor, must be pulled by the roots otherwise it will keep growing back.

2/06/2008 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the problem with that ic is that thousands if not tens of thousands of such books have already been written and continue to be written yet here you are, compelled to write your own. did you ever stop to think that this individual is exploiting your good nature for his/her own gain? the information's out there. it's been out there, and the story's been told in many manifest ways. why tell it again? why not actually do something about it now? you can't? i can't? why not? exactly!! answer that question and that will be the last book written on the topic and this blog becomes irrelevant.

2/06/2008 11:11:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...


I believe some of the people posting here would have a similar response.

The fear of losing one's internet connection is more pressing in the minds of the "halves" that have no fear about whether they are going to eat today...

Gott sei dank! Someone got it!

Yes! And thank you very much, Anonymous 2/06/2008 10:07:00 AM--this is exactly why such things continue to exist. We are so deeply programmed to

~~mind our own business

~~move it along--nothing here to see, folks

~~look after your own needs before you go looking for chaity cases

etc, etc, ad nonstopum, that things like Haiti can't be stopped. The flip side of this is that all it would take to change the whole sick planetary abattoir would be a worldwide change in thinking, kind of along the lines I was trying to suggest, where everyone had the same concern for the lives of different looking people far away as they did for their own fat asses.

Instead, you have a lot of fat asses calling for the sterilization of the skinny asses, never mind that population, crime & disease have dropped to the levels in "civilized" countries in every single case where the standard of living was raised to that of those countries.

Instead, you get this weird intercourse between "liberals" and fascists--not the way that Jonah Goldberg, prime example of fat-headed fat ass, has them intercoursing), but more the way that R.A. Wilson describes the unholy marriage in Malthus, Machiavelli & Pop Ecology (about halfway down the page):

.....It is my suspicion that the usefulness of the ideology to the ruling elite is no accident....The tax-exempt foundations which largely finance Pop Ecology are funded by the so-called Yankee Establishment -- the Eastern banking-industrial interests of whom the Rockefellers are the symbols. If this Yankee financing is not "coincidental" and "accidental" (based on purely disinterested charity)--if the ecological-mystical movement is serving Yankee Banker interests--a great deal of current debate is based on deliberately created mutual misunderstanding

...Consider the following widely-published and widely believed propositions: "There isn't enough to go around." "The Revolution of Rising Expectations, since the 18th Century, was based on fallacy." "Reason and Science are to be distrusted; they are the great enemies." "We are running out of energy." "Science destroys all it touches." "Man is vile and corrupts Nature." "We must settle for Lowered Expectations."

Whether mouthed by the Club of Rome or Friends of the Earth, this ideology has one major social effect: people who are living in misery and deprivation, who might otherwise organize to seek better lives, are persuaded to accept continued deprivation, for themselves and their children.

That such resignation to poverty, squalor, disease, misery, starvation, etc. is useful to ruling elites has frequently been noted by Marxists a propos pre-ecological mysticism; and, indeed, people can only repeat the current neo-puritan line by assuming that the benefit to the Yankee oligarchy is totally accidental and not the chief purpose of the promulgation of this ideology.

"I don't think humanity deserves to survive," stated one letter to Co-Evolution Quarterly. ....The only rationale for continuing the neo-puritan Lowered Expectations, in the light of these data, would be (a) to prove that Fuller, Gabel and their associates have been fudging or corrupting their figures--a demonstration none of the eco-puritans have attempted; or (b) a blunt assertion that most of humanity deserves to live in misery.

...For perspective,it should be remembered that the ideology of Lowered Expectations arrived on the historical scene immediately after the upsurge of Rising Expectations. That is, after the Utopian hopes of the American Declaration of Independence and the French Declaration of the Rights of Man, almost as if in reaction, an employee of the British East India Company, Thomas Malthus, created the first "scientific" argument that the ideals of those documents could never be achieved. Malthus had discovered that at his time world population was growing faster than known resources, and he assumed that this would always be true, and that misery would always be the fate of the majority of humanity.


2/06/2008 11:24:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

...why tell it again? why not actually do something about it now? you can't? i can't? why not? exactly!! answer that question and that will be the last book written on the topic and this blog becomes irrelevant."

Anonymous 2/06/2008 11:11:00 AM,

You're right, of course, so what I had in mind was making the book a sort of journal of the actual building-the-alternative-model project that I've hinted at here, here & here. The write up I got not so long ago in a friendly zone explained the context even better than I have so far.

You know, a sort of pictures and words and things more real than either sort of thing...

2/06/2008 11:33:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Clinton, Ark..reaping the whirl wind. This is an accident right? Mother Nature? God's will?

2/06/2008 12:50:00 PM  
Blogger surrender said...

You CAN do something about "it" NOW!!!

Why do we keep telling ourselves that it is hopeless????

The Ultimate Myth:
I can't do anything except find out why? I can't do anything.... to ease the suffering of those who have less than I do.

I can't change the way I use plastic and give up those things that are destroying precious Mother Earth.

I can't do my little part to make a difference, because it won't make any difference anyway, unless everyone does it, too.

I can't stop the war or feel anything about the millions of lives that are lost from the weapons my tax dollars make possible.

I can't stop watching television.

I can't stop wasting energy or driving that car with the fuel that has the price tag of millions of lost lives attatched to it.

I can't stop eating that delicious food and drink that are full of chemicals that hurt my body.

I can't eat dirt cookies to survive, so how can anyone else?

I can't imagine going to a poor country and doing anything to help others who are barely surviving.

I can't live without my personal comforts that I have worked so hard for.

I can't feel my connection to the Universe and all that exist.

I can't feel empathy for others cause I am too busy.

I can't believe in anything that I cannot prove.

I can't stop the feeling of fear and despair when I think of the future.

I can't change the way I live so how can I change the way others live?

I can't trust myself or others to make any difference in the world.

I can't be more than a vicitm of the CABAL for it is too powerful and not enough people will ever "wake-up".

I can't change anyone's point of view or engage them in actions that support LIFE.......Our LIFE.

The answer to why? you, me, they can't do anything about "it" will never come from a book someone else writes.
We have the answer inside each one of us.
We are just not willing to listen to the answer.

IC:What I have read that you have written here and elsewhere is what you have to contribute to changing the "way it is". Many times I have read your words and it has made a difference in how I think and feel about things in my life and how I can continue to do what I do here in Haiti.
(Anonymous 10:07 am was me and your welcome.)

2/06/2008 03:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that's a wonderful argument surrender and i'm sure you mean it. do you hear that ic? get off your ass and do something about it. a computer to you is a tv to most people. you already know the score and your words at this point are preaching to the choir. now that you know, it's time to do more than just say you know. forget your stupid book deal and get out there and feed and wash the unfed and unwashed. everybody, stop what you're doing and move yourself and your families to Haiti and Kenya and darfur. put yourself in the line of fire. don't worry about why it's happening or who's doing it. we already know. it's the trilateral commission and the bilderberg group and the council on foriegn relations and the club of rome. there's more where that came from but it doesn't matter. what matters is that you set yourself on fire, or that you throw yourself in front of some tanks or bulldozers. it won't change a thing but at least you and your children will leave this life with some integrity.

2/06/2008 03:29:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

There’s one more thing, the most central thing about all this that I’d like to explain, very briefly—promise—and then I’ll shut up for a while. You quite correctly say, Anonymous 2/06/2008, “the information's out there. it's been out there, and the story's been told in many manifest ways. why tell it again?”

But there’s a difference between this understanding being out there and it being in us, all of us, or whatever the threshold is for an horizon to gel. When Jeff is talking about the Image that prevails (the America-the-Beautiful-Brittney-verse) he’s describing the cheesy, death-dealing reality that we live in.

The implication is that if we could replace that horizon with another one.

One based on and arising from the simple, profound, revelatory act of empathy during which we all finally see each other as fellow creatures…and our past as a savage nightmare in which the horizon—the well of ‘belief’ that is the world-forming collective unconscious—was manipulated by, for and of the few. Sadly for those out for retribution, those who’ve placed the yoke of the phony Image around our lobes must, naturally, be forgiven.

If not forgotten.

The reason such a sea change is different in kind from the horizons that we’ve known is that this new one will be powered by a collective consciousness, not the old unconscious mechanism. There isn’t really a global consciousness yet—just the meme-stew of the Brittney-verse, although its reach is approaching worldwide.

Fortunately, there are many who are, as you say, working to propagate the empathetic revelation, battling with memes and histories, building with an inclusive vision.

So, the more the merrier is all I’m saying. How many barn-raisings does it take to counter one 50-foot Brittney?

Anonymous 2/06/2008 03:29:00 PM:

Right on! I'm trying, really, I am. Gonna break some ground on this habitat thing--real ground--just as soon as we possibly can.

2/06/2008 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah we've been having an interesting discussion over at where people are practicing the stuff I've posted here (or trying to at least).

2/06/2008 04:53:00 PM  
Anonymous That a Boy!! said...

Thanks for doing your part, Drew. With your help, we may just lick this thing yet.

2/06/2008 05:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Auzam-e veraujesh gapesh arzesh ni said...

Surrender's right. You people are disgusting. You should and will be wiped from the face of the planet. Good riddance.

2/06/2008 06:55:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Reptor said...

OK, for lack of anything better to do - I'll bite. What does auzam-e veraujesh gapesh arzes etc mean? I guess I could google it, but I'd rather just know...

We'll all be wiped from...I mean vanish from the page of...whatever, we're all dead men walking, Ozami Veruka or whatever your name was, so why go around wishing nasty wishes?

Although admittedly some of the people here do appear at times to be disgusting to the point of public mental nosepicking. Aren't we all, though?

Difficult to wipe off sometimes myself,
Lord Reptor.

2/06/2008 08:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It means "have I got a Bolognese Sauce recipe for you" in Farsi.

2/06/2008 08:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous One,this should read more like"Empire on the Verge of a Nervous Meltdown",somehow it feels like the end of a"long strange road".For the few out there that are sensitives,there can be no describing the vibes one picks up.I don't need anyone to tell me what I feel,or how I know that there is more just behond what you can see and hear.I could sit here and tell you everything I have done while in OBE,but then you would lable me the new 3G,so let me save that for some time when there is more time,later.

2/07/2008 06:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Apocalypto said...

come on. somebody, anybody post something about how we're getting screwed up the ass and the world's going to end tomorrow but not until we're tortured to death and our children are used as slaves and thrown into fiery pits or crucified. i need my daily fix.

2/07/2008 01:02:00 PM  
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