Saturday, September 22, 2007

Missing Time

"I'll show you the life of the mind!"
from Barton Fink

I've been here, sitting up with a cold/sinus infection/God knows what, that's temporarily robbed me of the ability to put two paragraphs together. A new post will be along early in the new week.

It's going to happen very soon. The great event that will end the horror. That will end the sorrow. Next Tuesday, when the sun goes down, I will play the Moonlight Sonata backwards. This will reverse the effects of the world's mad plunge into suffering for the last 200 million years. What a lovely night that will be. What a sigh of relief, as the senile robins become bright red again, and the retired nightingales pick up their dusty tails, and assert the majesty of creation!
Leonard Cohen


Blogger wwwdotnet said...

Oh the wind, the wind is blowing.
Through the graves the wind is blowing. Freedom soon will come.
Then we'll come from the shadows.

Leonard Cohen

9/22/2007 10:55:00 AM  
Blogger slomo said...

I don't know about 200 million years, but certainly 50,000.

I'm halfway through this online book:

Ascent of Humanity

It's well worth reading, as it concisely lays out what has happened to us over the long trajectory of our "mad plunge into suffering". And, the author promises a way out, but I haven't reached that point in the book yet.

9/22/2007 11:33:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Discipline your dream state. Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of the party.

9/22/2007 11:55:00 AM  
Blogger Kal Dani said...

Excuse me Jeff as i plug again my new blog and forthcoming psychic numerological prediction for this coming 27th September concerning events connected with Iran..?


Please note that i created the Blog in the past day or so and it is a work in progress to be mainly completed by tommorow night.

9/22/2007 12:37:00 PM  
Blogger Pete said...

ofcourse all events concerning Iran will transpire during the exercises of October the 10th through 25th. or somewhere whereabouts. anyway, Hannah Arendt, the forerunner of deconstruction, wrote a masterful tome entitled "The Life of the Mind." there could be no other source for this Cohen Bros. quip except this. it is obviously a scene which is meant to express the following, "that regardless of how lovely it would be to lay back and debate the propositions within your philosophical treatis, i shall indeed be exploiting every mechanism outlayed in your exposition of practical man in order to advance the will of the minority, whether it be by the ideology of socialization or naturalization regardless."

9/22/2007 01:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, Richard, am I the Future Shock candidate of which Toffler speaks for questioning the veracity of the claims? I still don't have a genuine response or answer to the billions that were bet on put options for the market to dive on or before 9/21. Mark claims it's chump change to them....I say Bullshit...billions is not chump change to them.

Instead, what we have are more Alarmist predictions....the same ones we have had perpetuitously since 9/11, or before. But, somehow, Mark feels compelled to brand me as the psychologically deficient one....well, if my questioning the accuracy of the prognostications deposited here is psycholgically deficient, then I consider the diagnosis a compliment.

9/22/2007 02:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

State Department Blog Team Joins Muslim Debate:

Walid Jawad was tired of all the chatter on Middle Eastern blogs and Internet forums in praise of gory attacks carried out by the “noble resistance” in Iraq.

So Mr. Jawad, one of two Arabic-speaking members of what the State Department called its Digital Outreach Team, posted his own question: Why was it that many in the Arab world quickly condemned civilian Palestinian deaths but were mute about the endless killing of women and children by suicide bombers in Iraq?

Among those who responded was a man named Radad, evidently a Sunni Muslim, who wrote that many of the dead in Iraq were just Shiites and describing them in derogatory terms. But others who answered Mr. Jawad said that they, too, wondered why only Palestinian dead were “martyrs.”

The discussion tacked back and forth for four days, one of many such conversations prompted by scores of postings the State Department has made on about 70 Web sites since it put its two Arab-American Web monitors to work last November.

9/22/2007 03:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good point, Glickstein. Sometimes I wonder if that's what this is. I guess I suffer from Current Shock as well as Future Shock. Interesting how Mark turns Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine into a Psychological Deficiency label to be used against his detractors, when he himself is considered psycholigically deficient by orthodoxical and conventional interests.

9/22/2007 06:14:00 PM  
Blogger Horse Lover said...

Eric Neitzke, and Attorney in Daytona Beach pretends to be a Horse person. He is far from that. He brought over to my Ranch miniature Horses already infected with STRANGLES, a very contagious and deadly disease. He sent me a long 3 page letter telling me I was bugging him just because I wanted him to reimburse me for vet bills and expenses due to his Slum Lord mentallity. Mary Jan Henderson, an area Circut Judge is wanting to regulate the Horse Business because of people like him.

In his long letter, he equated the sickness to day care. So either he thinks it is ok to infect children too or he is telling me that he cant be responsible for the disease. NOT. Earth to Eric Neitzke, you might be a liberal trial attorney but you know nothing about horses and should be banned from raising them.

To bring infected horses to my ranch run by even his sister caused her thousands of dollars beacuse she had to stop operations at the ranch and not bring more horses in till the disease ran its course...... weeks. Thanks to her great care of her facility, my horses and others were spared death. But they were sick and I had to take alot of time to care for them.

Eric Neitzke, stay an Attorney, you have to be responsible for your actions....... I know you dont want to but you will lose the lawsuit. More to come.

More on Eric Neitzke, Horse Slum Lord:

9/22/2007 09:22:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Horse lover you posted your bs here verbatim. Slander and libel don't fly.

Mark.. If I may interject in your discussion with Shrub...The AMERO coin may have been prestation gifts for the SPP. Political conventions always have that kind of thing and coins in gold and silver would be about right for that crowd. Presies ya know...

If I am reading Shrub about half way right, I think he's saying that "fear" is the currency that maintains both sides of the coin. Armageddon and a failed economy and stock market all rolled into one, is a fearsome thing. I have to agree with Shrub when he intimates that black hats and white hats in the military is a fabrication.

One missing nuclear warhead somewhere in the U.S. pales to the hundreds that are missing in the Ukraine.

On the other hand, I appreciate your points concerning the gunfight in Chicago, 911 paper shredding and the Murrah building evidence that conveniently disappeared. Blue was a 20 year old with less than one year in the military and was not a pilot.
He was broadsided by a lady in a mini-van. Deaths prior to the SNAFU concerning nuclear warheads is not germaine to the supposition.

Hal Turner and Sorcha Faal cannot be considered as "reliable sources. Here is Sorcha's most recent story on this subject. I am attaching same with the proviso that I do not subscribe to everything she says, but I do acknowledge that it is being discussed.

9/22/2007 09:50:00 PM  
Blogger Horse Lover said...


9/22/2007 11:34:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Shrub from the previous thread:

"But, somehow, Mark feels compelled to brand me as the psychologically deficient one.."

Shrub, you don't know, or want to feel, the difference between
empathy and being branded. It must feel all the same to you, I guess.

I was not 'branding' you. I was being sympathetic. Nor did I label you as "psychologically deficient". I was talking about a common effect, something that affects everyone.

Shrub said:

Interesting how Mark turns Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine into a Psychological Deficiency label..

I made no connection. Shrub, you missed your calling as a prosecuting attorney. If everyone is out to get you, Shrub, by all means, pretend I am as well.

Eric said:

"The AMERO coin may have been prestation gifts for the SPP. Political conventions always have that kind of thing and coins in gold and silver would be about right for that crowd.

That may be so. Though I doubt they would put a "D" for Denver Mint on it. Show me another unofficial coin that links itself officially to a mint mark and I might agree.

Second, Hal's first stort was about a contact in the Denver mint, long before this coin showed up. And they wern't talking commemorative coins. And the contact noted that suddenly the whole issue was called "national security" and treason level issues around leaking what were only presentation coint? I doubt it.

Third, Daniel Carr's designs as a source for the Amero lend veracity to it, given he has been commissioned by the U.S. Mint for designs before.

Innocent before proven guilty for citizens.

Guilty before proven innocent for governmental workers and private corporation staff. :-) They are so recidivist (Project Northwoods onward) that giving them the benefit of the doubt for their assumed truth, beauty, and goodness seems to me the height of naievete.

Eric said:

I have to agree with Shrub when he intimates that black hats and white hats in the military is a fabrication.

I never said black hats and white hats. I just said pro-Bush and not-pro Bush. Look, if we're so antsy and divided simply talking to one another here, why do you think everyone outside of this blog is on the same page?

Nice horse drawing, horse lover.

9/23/2007 04:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, gee, thanks for the sympathy and empathy, Mark. Let me reciprocate with some sympathy and empathy of my own for you and your Mental State. It's sad to observe your assertions contradicted and your Alarmist Predictions not manifest, yet you continue unabated as though what you have said previously shouldn't be held to account.

I personally think Toffler has it right, to a certain extent, Mark. How can one trust any source of information these days, or maybe any day (past, present or future), when there are so many hidden agendas? It doesn't stop me from reading and hoping upon hope, but it does make me take it all with a grain of salt.

It's nice that we can empathize with one another. I'm glad you're changing the world one post at a time, Mark. Perhaps all of your hard work will snap the Little Eichmans out of their zombie-like submission and enable them to rise up and thwart a Nuclear Attack and prevent The North American Union and the circulation of the Amero. I wouldn't bet on it, though.

9/23/2007 10:23:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

I never said black hats and white hats. I just said pro-Bush and not-pro Bush. Look, if we're so antsy and divided simply talking to one another here, why do you think everyone outside of this blog is on the same page?

Mark’s right about that, Shrub—just as right as you are about your doubts. The problem with revelations (especially those involving predictions!) is that they’ve all got strings attached…to weird things. A political point of view on the simplest level, or a debilitating and all-pervasive sense of fear on the deepest and most questionable level.

Personally, I think a little bit of Anthony Sutton goes a long way--even if he's right, for example, about the bankers being behind the socialist "experiments" of the 20th century, their purpose was still quite clearly to discredit and sabotage from within a system of governance that is clearly much more humane and sensible than rabid capitalism.

The fact that those same interests went on to embargo, attack and fight with every weapon in their bottomless arsenal the very socialist states they helped to set up illustrates far more about their real motives and their genuine fear of social justice than the "impossibility" of egalitarianism. This is where Syn tends to get hung up, I think. Not every liberal is a fascist in drag.

While Gurdjieff got it exactly right when he said that we first have to recognize that we’ve been imprisoned if we want to escape, many (if not most) of the harbingers of doom making a name for themselves today offer no escape plan at all when they shout: “We’re all going to die! They’re all-powerful and there’s nothing we can do!”

Doubt is good; agnosticism is as healthy as gnosis itself.

If you’ve got the time, try Ken MacLeod’s new one, The Execution Channel, where he talks about the machinations of the Owners and the conspiracy theories they manufacture to muddy the waters and spread the fear. (It’s fiction, of course…)

I want to thank you for that link. Eisenstein’s Ascent of Humanity seems like a great read. It’s as much an RI meme magnet as Derek Swannson’s Crash Gordon: The Mysteries of Kingsburg, which I’m very much in the midst of right now (more on that when I’ve digested it.) AoH posits a future where we’ve managed to survive the killing fields & fires by rediscovering the cyclical connectedness of the water wheel & stream, as you can see in this excerpt from The Age of Water:

An Age of Water will imitate the water cycle in its economics as well. Fire is the epitome of consumption, and it has incinerated social and natural capital for millennia. Today we are seeing the precursors to the cyclical economy of the Age of Water. All of the features of the "restorative economy" I have described—resource recyling, zero-waste manufacturing, full-cost accounting, and non-interest currency systems—equally justify the appellation "water economy". Like demurrage currency, like the energy of the gift, water resists confinement, moves from high places to low, and ultimately circles back to its source.

Perhaps the most profound transformation of the Age of Water will be in our spirituality—how we relate ourselves to the universe. Above, when speaking of animism, I said that each water droplet or other object "has a unique spirit", but that is not quite correct. The conception of spirit as something to be "had", and therefore extrinsic to matter, is a metaphor of separation and of fire. What animism actually implies is that each thing is a unique spirit, that matter itself is spiritual, sacred, and special. Spirit can no more be abstracted out from matter than structure can be removed from the water that carries it. The Age of Water, then, is an age in which we treat the earth and everything in it as sacred.

At the same time, water teaches us that the unique spirit of any bit of matter is not discrete and separate from the rest of reality. Like all things including ourselves, water takes on the spiritual qualities of everything that surrounds it; thanks to its ubiquity and receptivity, it is also the medium of this communion of all with all. Unique we are, each one of us, yet no more separate than two drops of water in the ocean. The Age of Separation comes to an end with the dawning of the Age of Water.

At the end of the last thread, Mark posted something about the ease with which we could turn our backs on petro-politics and the centralization of human activity through the simple expedient of adapting our lives to the near-infinite and fully free power of the sun & wind—the sticking point appears to be the fact that the solution is too simple, because this implies that our whole long, stupid subservience to the Overlords was completely unnecessary…if only we could have awoken from the bad dream that history has been.

Until now.

Biomorphism. Morphic fields. Designing the Holograph, instead of being stuck, deer-like in its strobing lights.

Or, just put that remote down and pass the chips.

9/23/2007 11:13:00 AM  
Blogger surrender said...

A week ago, in the mountain community where I live, a huge pine tree lost its rooting from all the rains that had washed away the soil. It fell on the roadside crushing 5 cars and took out all the power lines. The people in the community took up a collection to repair the power lines (No free state services here)and electicity was restored.
So the people were afraid that another giant pine tree would also lose its rooting and fall and to avoid that they decided to cut it down. Howerever, they did not cut the tree to fall safely and this tree fell, again blocking the roadside and taking out the power lines again.

Now, the people in the community are doing nothing to remove the tree or repair the lines.

Point of story: I have electricity in the daytime with solar panels and inverter, but only when there is strong sun, so I cannot use my computer as often to post here and I must read by candle light at night.

I did NOT think for one minute that the use of "outfit" was derogatory in any way.
Your last post was awesome. I wonder why we so avoid discussing our spiritual evolution and how accelerated it is at this time.

SHRUB: For what it's worth, whatever is happening in the world is happening and is going to happen,
no matter what. All we can do is try to stay out of the way of the next catastrophe and be part of the "Great Awakening". We are seeing the "signs" and reading them as best we can with our unique gifts of insight and the ability to create.

Future Shock, well, I don't know about that except it must be related to FEAR, which is our only real enemy.

What do we do when fear of a loose nuke gets our attention??? I don't know about you, but we cannot ignore it. But we have to put it in a "place" in our consciousness so that it does not distract us from continuing to create value in our personal lives and life on the planet.

If you or I get nuked, don't you think we will continue to EXIST anyway??? We DO have the ability to EXPAND and include All of IT.

Not to worry though, I KNOW Mother Earth will not allow us to destroy Her, She WILL destroy us first!!(She's done it before)


9/23/2007 02:14:00 PM  
Blogger surrender said...

It is vital that we know how we are daily manipulated, but without the greater understanding of life itself and the reality we are experiencing it can merely become a quest to know more about your prison cell.

We surely need to change our experience by understanding how we create it and not just focus on our current experience and how bad it is. I am beginning to see what you might call the conspiracy research movement going around and around in a circular motion and it needs to move on, too.

Once again, I am not saying that such research and communication should stop, no, no, of course not. But if it does not begin to encompass other levels of what is happening it will become an irrelevance, just as the ‘New Age movement’ became an irrelevance because it stood still and froze into rigid belief, ritual and dogma.' David Icke

(Surprise! Surprise!)

9/23/2007 02:31:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

IC..I'm reading Trevor Ravenscroft "The Spear of Destiny" which was published 1973. Trevor has a direct connect to Hitler's "missing years" through Stein, his advisor on occult issues before Stein bailed out. This is a tour de force in the study of occult practices including Vril, The Secret Doctrine, relationships between the Golden Dawn, Rudolph Steiner, Crowley, Blavatsky, and Hitler's own cosmogony.

The Protocols of Sion formed much of Hitler's propaganda against the Jews. Hitler was able to accomplish 4d using peyote and satanic/sexual occult degrees that were developed by the Nazis. The higher adepts in their system claimed to be able to sprout seeds to flower reminding me of the hippie 60's when the freaks used to meditate on flowers.

The point of this entry is a caution to those of us who have or will attain higher consciousness using drugs. This space has been taken.

9/23/2007 05:48:00 PM  
Blogger Fletcher said...

Taken. agreed. And it's all connected. Speaking of, just about everyone i know has come down with the "cold" or whatever it is that Jeff has...I am currently just getting over it. Seriously, almost everyone that i know is sick or in similar stages of recovery...all over the past 2 weeks. The symptoms reported by everyone i know infected are almost identical. Sinus congestion and severe chest congestion, fever.. I've never seen such a widespread coinciding outbreak of cold like symptoms. Take your vitamins.

9/23/2007 07:13:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Hey Fletcher.. agreed...many of my co-workers have the same thing happening to them.

9/23/2007 10:49:00 PM  
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9/24/2007 01:05:00 AM  
Blogger just_another_dick said...

Shrub, here's some more idle gossip with that ol' FUBAR stank to it.

"The warheads were attached to the plane in Minot without special guard for more than 15 hours, and they remained on the plane in Louisiana for nearly nine hours more before being discovered. In total, the warheads slipped from the Air Force's nuclear safety net for more than a day without anyone's knowledge.

"I have been in the nuclear business since 1966 and am not aware of any incident more disturbing," retired Air Force Gen. Eugene Habiger, who served as U.S. Strategic Command chief from 1996 to 1998, said in an interview.

A simple error in a missile storage room led to missteps at every turn, as ground crews failed to notice the warheads, and as security teams and flight crew members failed to provide adequate oversight and check the cargo thoroughly. An elaborate nuclear safeguard system, nurtured during the Cold War and infused with rigorous accounting and command procedures, was utterly debased, the investigation's early results show.

The incident came on the heels of multiple warnings -- some of which went to the highest levels of the Bush administration, including the National Security Council -- of security problems at Air Force installations where nuclear weapons are kept. The risks are not that warheads might be accidentally detonated, but that sloppy procedures could leave room for theft or damage to a warhead, disseminating its toxic nuclear materials.

A former National Security Council staff member with detailed knowledge described the event as something that people in the White House "have been assured never could happen." What occurred on Aug. 29-30, the former official said, was "a breakdown at a number of levels involving flight crew, munitions, storage and tracking procedures -- faults that never were to line up on a single day."

So, what do you think Shrub?

As far the "billions" being bet on the tanking of the economy...well, the 1st article I read about that was about 2 weeks before it was mentioned here & the figure was only in the millions & that is "chump change" to those rich enough to gamble like that.

&, considering the fucked up state of our economy, would that be such a sucker's bet without a "terror attack?"

I seem to recall reading this week that the US dollar is now, for the 1st time in 30 years, equal to the Canadian dollar.

We're also in debt up to our hairlines & everybody knows it.

We're sunk in a foreign killing field/money pit & the hole gets bigger & deeper by the day.

& all the yoo-hoos running for prez have nothing to offer but platitudes, faux patriotism, & dweeby macho posturing to offer as solutions.

You may be feeling the RI sting of condescending dismissal Shrub, but I happen to agree with you.

As far as Ravenscroft's book goes, it's full of mountains of conjecture & few "facts."

& of those "facts," anyone who has independently attempted to verify them has found them to be wrong.

If the "Spear of Destiny" was so powerful, what good did it do Austria?

I have a few excellent articles around here somewhere that eviscerate Ravenscroft's book, I just don't have the time to hunt them down, let alone type out nifty quotes to prove something that is ultimately pointless.

&, if I remember correctly, in 2003 that version of the "spear" was pretty conclusively proven to have been made at a date far beyond Christ's lifetime.

In my opinion, Ravenscroft's book, like The Diary of Jack the Ripper & The Hitler Diaries, is just another chunk of bullshit in an ocean of human bullshit.

In his favor though, I suppose I could say that he doesn't let "the truth" stand in the way of a good yarn.

"Condoleeza Rice is nice,
but I prefer A-Roni.
And that man on the T.V.
who speaks to the dead,
you know that man's a phony.
Everybody move to Canada
and smoke lots of pot.
Everybody move to Canada
right now.
Here's how we do it:
Bum rush the border guard
before he and his dog ever knew it.

Streets on fire,
the mob goes wild wild wild.

Streets on fire,
the mob goes wild

21 guns,
a box made of pine,
letter from the government
sealed and signed
Delivered Federal Express
on your mother's doorstep."

9/24/2007 01:18:00 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

Thanks. Richard said:

"I seem to recall reading this week that the US dollar is now, for the 1st time in 30 years, equal to the Canadian dollar.

Live rates at 2007.09.24 06:03:21 UTC

1.00 USD
0.998421 CAD

Live rates at 2007.09.24 06:06:21 UTC

1.00 USD
10.9470 MXN Pesos

What a window of opportunity for easy three-country conversions: nearly 1:1 between US and Canada. Nearly a 1:10 ratio between US and Mexico. Seems that huge Peso is due to U.S. elite policies attempting to have money and investment flow into Mexican pesos by cutting down U.S. bond rates. There is a huge differential between Mexican peso-denominated bond returns and U.S. bond returns right now. It was only enhanced by an unprecedented and unexpected 1/2% recently as well:

1. Mexico Currency, Peso Bonds Rally After [U.S.] Fed Cuts Benchmark Rate
Bloomberg - Sep 18, 2007
18 (Bloomberg) -- Mexico's peso and local-currency bonds rallied after the Federal Reserve cut its benchmark lending rate by a half-percentage point to 4.75 making returns on higher-yielding Mexican assets [comparatively] more attractive [to aggregately steer shifting capital toward pumping up the Peso]...

The peso snapped a four-day decline and touched its strongest in one month as the Fed's decision to cut borrowing costs by the most since November 2002 eased concerns the U.S. housing slump will further affect the economy and curb demand for Mexican exports. Mexico sells about 80 percent of its exports to the U.S.

``The size of the [U.S. Federal Reserve] cut took some traders by surprise,'' said Eduardo Perez, who oversees $5 billion in assets at Mexico City- based insurance company Grupo Nacional Provincial SA. ...

The peso rose 1.25 percent to 10.9987 per dollar at 5:12 p.m. New York time after earlier touching 10.9973, the strongest since Aug. 13.

The Fed had kept the benchmark interest rate at 5.25 percent since June 2006. [It was widely unexpected:] The median forecast in a Bloomberg News survey of 134 economists was for [only] a quarter-point cut, while [only] 23 [of the 134 economists surveyed] forecast the Fed would lower rates to 4.75 percent. Six economists expected no change.

The Fed's cut today increased the spread, or yield differential, between its key rate and Banco de Mexico's lending target to 2.5 percentage points, the widest since April 2006.

Mexico Borrowing Costs

Mexico's central bank will hold [up] borrowing costs [higher to encourage people to give Mexico money and invest in its bonds with a higher return] at 7.25 percent when policy makers meet on Sept. 21, according to all but one of 14 economists surveyed by Bloomberg. JPMorgan Chase & Co. expects the [Mexican central] bank to raise its benchmark rate to 7.5 percent. ...

2. Mexican peso firms as [its] central bank hints at hike
Reuters - Sep 21, 2007
MEXICO CITY, Sept 21 (Reuters) - Mexico's peso firmed on Friday after the country's central bank hinted at a future rate hike and said it was studying the ...

3. Mexico's Peso Opens At 10.9925/Dlr Vs 10.9880 Wed Close The Foreign Exchange Market, Spain - Sep 20, 2007
MEXICO CITY (Dow Jones)--Mexico's peso strengthened against the dollar in early trading Thursday after a weaker opening. Around 10:20 am EDT, the peso was ...

4. Mexico to Swap 500 Million Euros of Bonds to Cut External Debt [and to reinflate Pesos in Peso-denominated debt instead]
Bloomberg - Sep 19, 2007
Mexico's peso has weakened 1.6 percent this year, the worst performance against the dollar among the 16 most-traded currencies, as a U.S. housing slump threatens an economic expansion [then the U.S. Fed attempts to prime it back up? with that huge bond interest rate differential between the two countries that was wholly unexpected?]. Mexico sells about 80 percent of its exports to the U.S. Mexico, which has issued three sets of warrants since 2005, has cut its foreign debt to a record low of 4.7 percent of gross domestic product. The government will reduce its foreign debt to less than 4.5 percent of GDP should [international capital] investors exercise the option to exchange [U.S.-denominated] dollar bonds due between 2009 and 2033 for the 2014 and 2024 peso bonds [in this window of opportunity where it is many points of interest return higher] in the next two months. ...

5. US dollar fails to sustain any gains. Bernanke to speak in Washington The Foreign Exchange Market, Spain - 4 hours ago
The Mexican Peso (MXN) rose to a six-week high after central bankers said they're concerned inflation may quicken, adding to speculation they'll raise...

Shifting and guiding the money around. Listen to Mr. Beale getting lectured about this:

Network - Jensen/Beale Boardroom Scene 6 min

IC, the word about "artificial scarcity" is getting out regarding oil prices in the world right now in an interesting 'cross-political' context.

Within the first twelve minutes of this Alex Jones interview with Greg Palast (hows that for crossing supposed political divides), both are talking about Palast's book data about the artificial scarcity concerning oil prices and the lie of peak oil. I'm paraphrasing some of the talk around 10 minutes in:

AJ: "And you've done something really bold here, because the left is in love with what I've tracked back to oil company propaganda [peak oil], it's almost like a religion to them...

GP: I've lost a lot of my supporters over reporting on this issue, though I'm just an investigative reporter. The truth is that the "Hubbert's Peak" was going against what Shell was actually finding out in the 1950s. Hubbert worked for Shell, and Shell was panicked that they were finding more and more oil everywhere they looked...The latest thing that I found, inside the dept of Energy that a document does show the end of Saudi Arabias easy oil, though if you add in the Orinono extra heavy oil, with 90% of it in Venezuela, then Venezuela has 5x as much oil as Saudi Arabia. Why is it a state secret?' [paraphrasing]

AJ: It makes me speechless to have the documents before me, to see that 6-7 years ago all of this artificial scarcity was planned out, etc. [paraphrasing]....I have family who are petroleum geologists...Said peak oil was the biggest joke on the world, it's in India, it's in China, it's in the Gulf of Mexico, and it's in Mexico which has 3x the oil of the lower 48...

GP: ..though nothing comes close to Venezuela and that's why they want to kill off that.

9/24/2007 04:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Richard,

Thta story about the options may have started with mere millions, which I would agree is chump change and wouldn't require a Terrorist Attack to ensure, but the story did become billions. I'm not crazy.....and here's a link to just one of many stories climaing it to be so.

Nice website there.....I like the Eagle, although I think they should change it to a Turkey.

I don't know about you,but I want some answers on this. I want the follow-up to this story. Who was the chump, or who were the chumps who lost this kind of money these contracts if the story was indeed true and not embellished or fabricated, altogether.

You're right, Richard, this shit stinks to high heaven. My tank is that there are a bunch of assholes out there trying to take advantage of naive individuals....both officially, and unofficially.

9/24/2007 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, and that cold flu that everyone seems to have's no coincidence. Super Secret Sources say it's a recently developed malady minted by the CDC in Atlanta. The Super Secret Sources say it's been coined the Amero Virus, and it is being used to forge the North American Union.

9/24/2007 08:55:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

They don't get the name "Centre for Disease Control" {doublespeak} for nothing.

9/24/2007 10:03:00 AM  
Blogger just_another_dick said...

Shrub, I wasn't doubting your numbers.

Just pointing out that the "economy tanking" story has been inflated with each retelling.

& speaking of the cold flu "pandemic," if anyone really believes that their "symptoms" are part of a govt. plot, then I'd invite y'all to head back to last fall on the RI comment board where you'll find like minded individuals saying the exact same thing.

Of course, that just turned out to be hysterical paranoia, but I'm sure that this is the really big pandemic kahuna that will "thin the population" down to easily manageable levels.

Until next year, when the cycle starts all over again & I'll be really sure that that will the pandemic to end all of humanity as we know it.

9/24/2007 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Check out the thread on the forum started by msalling22. He/she has articulated my sentiments quite well. Notice the responses he/she is getting....exactly what he/she mentions we should guard against in his/her initial post. Some of these folks have to know that running around like Chicken Littles screaming the Sky Is Going To Fall today is naive, or purposely done to make any truly legitimate knowledge about an impending disaster appear to be lunacy due to so many false alarms.

9/24/2007 01:57:00 PM  
Blogger Emanuel said...

That clip from Barton Fink is one of my favorite movie scenes ever!


9/24/2007 02:43:00 PM  
Blogger CuriosityShop said...

Hello IC,
I’ve missed you too. I do return here often to read, but hardly ever post because it seems you are the only one who reads anything I post.

Maybe I’m just another brain damaged hippie and talk in a language that makes no sense to most people. That’s ok, I’m used to it. But I am finding more and more people nowadays that talk the same language and walk the talk.

Elwood: It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

Elwood: We're on a mission from God.

Jake: Hit it.

Elwood: Illinois Nazis.
Jake: I hate Illinois Nazis.

Elwood: The light was yellow, sir.

Elwood: I'm gonna quit work first thing in the morning.
Jake: And how are you gonna get to work Mr Lead Foot, Mr Hot Rod, Mr Motor Head? Those cops took your license away. They got your name, your address.
Elwood: No they don't got my address. I falsified my renewal. I put 1060 West Addison.
Jake: 1060 West Addison? That's Wrigley Field.

Burton Mercer: This, gentlemen, is the elegant abode of one Elwood Blues.
Officer Mount: Yeah, thanks, Mr. Mercer.
Burton Mercer: You know, I kind of like the Wrigley Field bit.
Officer Mount: Yeah, *real* cute.
Burton Mercer: You know I kinda like the Wrigley Field bit.

Mrs. Tarantino: Are you the police?
Elwood: No, ma'am. We're musicians.

Elwood: We certainly hope you all enjoy the show. And remember, people, that no matter who you are and what you do to live, thrive and survive, there're still some things that makes us all the same. You. Me. Them. Everybody. Everybody.
["Everybody Needs Somebody to Love" song begins]

Elwood: [Police have surrounded the Blues Brothers concert] ... And we would especially like to welcome all the representatives of Illinois's law enforcement community that have chosen to join us here in the Palace Hotel Ballroom at this time...

[at the closing, as each character is credited]
Reverend Cleophus James: The sad sack was sittin' on a block o' stone/Way over in the corner weepin' all alone/
Curtis: The warden said, "Hey, buddy, don't you be no square / if you can't find a partner use a wooden chair!"
Ray: Let's rock, everybody, let's rock/
Mrs. Murphy: Everybody on the whole cell block / Was dancin' to the Jailhouse rock.

And the Cubs just might take the World Series.,CST-SPT-csep24.article

Go figure
White Sox
And now the Cubs.

Chicago is kinda blessed, huh, we got the mojo. Maybe that’s why we had that UFO appear at Chicago’s O’Hare airport on November 7th, Election Day. Go figure.

And IC what do you mean you don’t do youtube? That’s our kids on there, and you would be damn amazed at what they are doing. They ARE changing the world. Whenever I grow so, so weary of all this end of the world bullcrap, I go to youtube and listen and watch. They are amazing. They are full of LIFE!

Remember Terrance McKenna and his psychedelic elves – “We want you to change your language.” Trust me these kids are changing the language big time!

And Jeff sorry you are not feeling well, no colds around Chicago town we got the mojo! Hope you feel better.

Besides, there’s no need to worry, Superman is here and on the job.

9/24/2007 03:43:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Some of these folks have to know that running around like Chicken Littles screaming the Sky Is Going To Fall today is naive, or purposely done to make any truly legitimate knowledge about an impending disaster appear to be lunacy due to so many false alarms.

Or, even worse, that there's just nothing we can do about anything anyway. This is what I was getting at with my hints about misleading conspiracy theories being manufactured by those same folks about & around whom those theories swirl. I'm throwing my two cents in with surrender when she says that it's our fear they're after. If you think about it, all this business with Ritual Satanic Abuse and every damned thing we've been scared by that somehow "leaks out" is designed to keep us in a perpetual state of fear.

I've been reading Derek's Crash Gordon the past few days and in it--among a great many things that the denizens of this daring, dank dungeon will really appreciate--he lays out the premise of the psychic vampire beautifully. Actually, there are two sorts of supernatural creatures concerned with our welfare--the Beings of the Darkness and the Beings of Light. Just like in the old stories, the Ominous Ones (who grow fat on bad vibes, violence & fear) can only hurt us if we invite them across the threshhold, while the Bright Ones are strengthened (and strengthen us) with acts of love & forgiveness.

This is why they felt so threatened by the spirit of the '60s counterculture and by the ideals of social justice and peace in certain political directions that they needed to infiltrate, sabotage and crush those movements.

Speaking of which, and also in keeping with the world according to Crash Gordon, I wasn't suggesting drugs as the only spiritual path, ericswan: you get out of such things pretty much what you bring to them. I knew a lot of assholes who smoked dope and dropped acid when such things were fashionable to do. I have feeling that what Uncle Adolf saw was just a little different from what the sane/humane prophets of entheogenic exploration would encounter.

Hey, Movie Girl!

I wrote the preceding before I saw your comment, but it certainly jives with your vibe. I don't do youtube very much because it just eats up so much time, you see...

Blues Brothers...O' know, I grew up in the shadow of that place. That United flight that crashed after take off in '78? It landed on my friend's dad's shop (whose name I shared) just before I went over to see the boys about some bid'ness.

Omens, portends, signs and significances...who can say?

Well, you should, for starters! Please don't stay away 'cuz the crusty old men are hiking up their shorts just when you feel like getting metaphysical. Yes, I'll read anything you put up there--promise. (Sorry I haven't been 'round to your blog of late...busy guy 'n all...I'll drop by soon. Another promise.)

9/24/2007 03:57:00 PM  
Blogger just_another_dick said...

"Some of these folks have to know that running around like Chicken Littles screaming the Sky Is Going To Fall today is naive, or purposely done to make any truly legitimate knowledge about an impending disaster appear to be lunacy due to so many false alarms."

It's just human nature Shrub.

Witness most Christians who are specifically instructed by Jesus to not waste time attempting to foretell the hour of His a return, yet spend endless hours scaring themselves silly with outrageous end-times scenarios.

As I've said before Shrub, this conspiracy shite is pretty much indistinguishable from a religion.

So it makes perfect sense, to me anyway, that it would follow the same patterns.

You can be sure of one thing though, being so glaringly wrong will not stop anyone from doing the same shit again & again & again.

After all, maintaining the appearance of having some super secret knowledge is the essence of all internet conspiracy theorists.

You can also be sure that each doom filled prophecy will find an army of willing believers obsessively anxious to worry themselves into a blue funk.

9/24/2007 05:56:00 PM  
Blogger Syn Diesel said...

Hey ericswan, can we really create a better world through dreaming? I got some realy good air last night. Normally I just bounce really high.

9/24/2007 06:51:00 PM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Syn.. You got me tongue tied. I'd really really like to tell you what I know but I don't know nothin.

As far as Chicken Little is concerned, I'm holding out for October 13.

As far as "puts" for Sept. 21, I think the economy would have tanked if they didn't drop interest rates. Let's call that one a draw.

As far as the missing nuke, Bearden says they have them all over the place and they've been there since 1980. If I were a betting man, (and I'm not) I would say the biggest bomb headed for the newnighted states is racial. That's what you get when you live in a 3d world without 4d dreams.

9/24/2007 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the sign Scorpio we can view Ophiuchus and Serpens. Ophiuchus is about to step upon the Scorpion while the Scorpion is about to sting his heel. Ophiuchus is wrestling with the Serpent who is making an attempt to gain the crown Corona. Sagittarius has his bow and arrow pointed directly at the heart of the Scorpion and Hercules is raising his club in an upswing about to hit Serpens in the head. He has the three-headed serpent in his grasp which as his club comes down will smash. It seems as if this is a fight for dominion written in the heaven.

The constellations date back to the most primitive records of history. You have to believe they were put in the skies for a purpose. The mystery is who put them there and what are they saying to us? The Babylonians and Egyptians worshiped the constellations but did not claim they put them up there. There is a book written that still can be read because no one can take this book away from us. It's in the skies and it is an intimate part of our planet's history. You can rediscover this book and marvel at the wonders in the skies again. It's a book that takes us way back to the ancient of days.

Kings and Queens and the poor alike have always been interested in these signs. Are they trivial or beneficial in our understanding of life on earth? I know they offer us answers and can perplex many people. I encourage you to find out more about this book written in the heavens. You may find answers that you are searching for. I believe some of the ancients found answers because of the signs in the heavens. I am a firm believer that things are not much different today as they were back thousands of years ago. Wisdom applied is rarely appreciated and can be hated by the majority. A little bit of evil does harm to a lot of good.

9/24/2007 09:15:00 PM  
Blogger AJ said...

"There is a book written ..."

Wasn't this idea discussed at length by the late Dr. Kennedy a few years back?
I remember getting quite excited about it and talking about it to my new very conservative fundamentalist friends at my new church and they shook their heads sadly and dissed me without hearing any supporting logic, which was pervassive.
Kind of pissed me off.
Now I wave to all my (former) friends at church and sit down and read RI on Sundays.

May the Lord have mercy on me (and Richard too).

9/24/2007 10:09:00 PM  
Blogger just_another_dick said...

Yep, it's totally irrational to believe that a big brained crackerjack military that comes up with plans as butt stupid as this one:

"WASHINGTON - Army snipers hunting insurgents in Iraq were under orders to "bait" their targets with suspicious materials, such as detonation cords, and then kill whoever picked up the items, according to the defense attorney for a soldier accused of planting evidence on an Iraqi he killed. Gary Myers, an attorney for Sgt. Evan Vela, said Monday his client had acted "pursuant to orders."

The Army on Monday declined to confirm such a program exists.

"To prevent the enemy from learning about our tactics, techniques and training procedures, we don't discuss specific methods targeting enemy combatants," said Paul Boyce, an Army spokesman."

...could ever just accidentally lose some nukes.

9/24/2007 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes many Christians reject the idea of faithfully looking up at the stars and seeing the ancient constellations and many secularists think it trivial to do the same. I don't want to dwell on the arrogance that the awe and wonder that the constellations may provide is wickedness. I am awe struck by them. Just as I was awe struck when visiting the Grand Canyon in Arizona. Dr. James Kennedy wrote The Real Meaning of the Zodiac in 1996. E.W. Bullinger wrote The Witness of the Stars in 1893, Joseph Seiss wrote A Gospel in the Stars in 1882, Frances Rolleston wrote Mazzoroth or The Constellations in 1862. Of course they were all met with disapproval by Christians and Secularists.

This known idea that the ancient pagan cultures had Christs that the people waited for and this Christ is written in the constellations. Can you say that pagan religions are based on the book written in the heavens? The return of Horus of the Egyptians, the Babylonian Tammuz, Saturn of Rome, Quetzalcoatl, god of the Aztec and Mayan cultures, Viracocha of the Incas, King Arthur of Great Britain and myriads of other supreme deities of pagan traditions - ancient gods who are expected to return from their celestial abode to establish a Golden Age of peace and prosperity on earth.

I know the Egyptians did not claim to put the constellations in the skies. Neither did the Babylonians. It is a mystery today as it was in ancient Egypt as to what civilization put them up there. We are going far back into history on this. This presents a problem to non-thinkers everywhere. The serious study for the mature seeker is to answer several questions. Are the ancient constellations a complete book with a beginning and and end chapter? What civilization is responsible for the ancient naming of the stars in the constellations and the names of the constellations? What is this story telling us? etc...

An individual can interpret that in the book of Genesis 3: 15 in the Christian Bible Moses took from the constellations and wrote the story of them into Genesis. I believe this is exactly what happened. It is written in 3: 15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; It shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel. There is a lot of that going on in the constellations. I do not believe Moses was ignorant about this.

This story is a mystery. It is not a dumb study whereas the ancients just put these priceless pieces of art into the skies that have been with us for thousands of years. I look at it like how some of the constellations have Greek names. I know for a fact though that the Greeks did not make up the Medusa monster out of thin air. They took Medusa from the then ancient constellation which they renamed Perseus (The Breaker). It was up there long before the Greeks shared the myths of the Gorgons. There is a natural corruption of the sense of time when studying the origins of the constellations. The point I'm making is that the story that is told is much more ancient than it is made out to be. But you have to be the judge of that.

9/24/2007 11:59:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Canada: Losing Water Through NAFTA

Under the North American Free Trade Agreement, Canada lost control over its energy resources. Now, with "NAFTA-plus", it could also lose control over its freshwater resources, say experts.

Canada's water is on the trade negotiating table despite widespread public opposition and assurances by Canadian political leaders, said Adèle Hurley, director of the University of Toronto's Programme on Water Issues at the Munk Centre for International Studies.

A new report released Sep. 11 by the programme reveals that water transfers from Canada to the United States are emerging as an issue under the auspices of the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP).

The SPP — sometimes called "NAFTA-plus" — is a forum set up in 2005 in Cancún, by the three partners, Canada, United States and Mexico.

Economic integration as envisioned by the powerful but little-known SPP is slowly changing the lives of Canadians, says Andrew Nikiforuk, author of the report "On the Table: Water Energy and North American Integration".

The SPP is comprised of business leaders and government officials who work behind the scenes and are already responsible for changes to border security, easing of pesticide rules, harmonisation of pipeline regulations and plans to prepare for a potential [sic?] avian flu outbreak, Nikiforuk writes. [ Bilderberger Rumsfeld profits personally off an avian flu outbreak.]

"The SPP is run by corporate leaders; governments are irrelevant," said Ralph Pentland, a water expert and acting chairman of the Canadian Water Issues Council. Pentland envisions a future where, in response to ongoing drought problems in the United States, the SPP will make arrangements to dole out millions of dollars of public funds for private companies to build pipelines to transfer water from Canada.

"The SPP is like putting the monkeys in charge of the peanuts," he told Tierramérica. Massive water diversions from Canada do not make economic or environmental sense, according to water experts.

There is ample evidence that environmental standards and stewardship in Canada and Mexico have plummeted since NAFTA went into effect in 1994, and “accelerated trade under the SPP means accelerated environmental abuse,” he said.


Massive water diversions from Canada do not make economic or environmental sense, according to water experts. Far better and cheaper is to improve water efficiency and eliminate waste. The United States and Canada lead the world in water consumption and are extraordinarily wasteful, Pentland says.

Moreover, most of Canada’s water is in the far north, not near its border with the United States. And even the transboundary Great Lakes are at their lowest levels in 100 years due to climate change, notes Nikiforuk.


Under NAFTA rules, Canada cannot reduce its energy exports to the United States, according to Gordon Laxer, director of the Parkland Institute, a research network at the University of Alberta. “The U.S. is the most energy wasteful nation on Earth. And Canada is sacrificing its environment to feed America’s addiction to oil,” Laxer said in an interview. [the water draw to the U.S. comes into the SPP because these 'over the heads' of the three country's legislatures' agreements about expediting more Canadian oil from the tar sands requires 3x as much fresh water to make 1 unit of oil.



And from above on the proto NAU in place economically, if not (yet?) financially:

Mexico ships 80% of its trade to the USA, and Canada ships 86% of its trade to the USA:

U.S. corporations already dominate the Canadian economy. Here's a short summary about Canada from a .gov website.

Canada-U.S. Trade Relationship

The Canada-U.S. trade relationship is the largest ever to exist between two nations. Two-way trade in goods and services between Canada and the United States during 2000 was estimated at approximately C$700 billion, or almost C$2.0 billion per day.

Of Canada's 2000 imports, 74 percent came from the U.S., while 86 percent of Canada's total exports were shipped to the United States.

[Economically and materially, the Maple Leaf should be the U.S. 51's state designation, eh?]

The volume of Canada-U.S. trade last year was far greater than the total amount of Canada's trade with all of its other trading partners combined. [WWII set up this relationship more than anything: ]

Canada and the United States have long been very active trading partners. In historical terms, Canada has been the leading foreign export market for U.S. goods since 1946, while the United States has been the number one destination for Canadian exports since 1942.

The implementation in 1965 of the Auto Pact, which established free trade [without the Orwell speak, just say transnational corporate monopoly domination] in automobiles between Canada and the United States, served to promote the already strong economic [corporate] ties [equally undermining]...the two countries. The historic signing in 1989 of the U.S.-Canada Free Trade Agreement (FTA), which established tariff-free trade on a multi-sectoral basis, set the stage for an enormous increase in the amount of bilateral commerce between Canada and the United States. In 1994, the fundamental principles of trade liberalization established by the FTA were further expanded, both in terms of scope and coverage, under the North American Free Trade
Agreement, which added Mexico to the regime.

These trade agreements have helped fuel unparalleled economic growth [translation: transnational corporate monopoly power and massive poverty and loss of jobs in all countries], with bilateral trade between Canada and the United States nearly tripling during the past twelve years.

In addition to the FTA and NAFTA, various other factors have contributed to the remarkable expansion of bilateral commerce between Canada and the United States. Geographic proximity, congruent time zones, a common language, and cultural and historical ties [translation of "historical": the U.S. attempting to conquer the rest of British Canada during the Revolutionary War and during the War of 1812--and failing both times; during the U.S. Civil War, the British plan to invade the U.S. from British Canada (and French-army supplied Mexico from the south as well) that failed to start because Russia unexpectedly provided its Imperial Navy to Lincoln--which would have made the U.S. Civil War to carve up the United States for the European powers into a real international war with European implications, so Britain and France didn't invade from the north and south respectively during the U.S. Civil War after all.

So Canada was invented soon thereafter as direct routes of conquest were delegitimated, and U.S. financial elites started marrying into the British upper classes and 'marrying' their countries policies as a wedding gift. The Rhodes Scholarships, the CFR/RIIA, and Pilgrims Society helped to create the Anglo-American empire elite solidarity as well]...

*Economic Impact*

It is difficult to overstate the impact of international trade on the economies of Canada and the United States.

In 2000, 43 percent of Canada's gross domestic product was comprised of exports and over 30 percent of total employment in the country was supported by exports.

With 86 percent of all Canadian exports last year destined for the US, it is clear that trade with the United States creates an enormous number of jobs for Canadians.

Though the United States is not as export-oriented as is Canada, international trade does contribute significantly to the US economy. Last year, U.S. exports of goods and services comprised roughly 12 percent of the United States' GDP. [U.S. don't sell nuthin' anyone wants!] (Exports to Canada accounted for roughly 20 percent of all US exports.) It has been estimated that nearly two million jobs in the United States are supported by US exports to Canada.

[from some business outfit with a .gov designation: ]

9/25/2007 02:43:00 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

CNN solved the wait about Iran, and Orwell-like is saying Eurasia (I mean the U.S.) is already at war with EastAsia (I mean, Iran). Didn't you get the update?

CNN: The war with Iran has begun
Published on Sunday, September 23, 2007.


Discussion on CNN with Retired Col. Sam Gardiner [who is he?] who clearly states that the war in Iran is already underway and that a second phase of overt military action will soon begin.

Says Gardiner is attached to "The Century Foundation", think tank founded in 1919, whose current president is from a parapolitical U.S. international mercantile bank that dominated the Pentagon from WWII onward, named Dillon Read. (Lots of Bonesmen in Dillon Read bank by the way; though not Forrestal, first Secretary of Defense, who was from Dillon Read as well though assuredly 'suicided' at Bethesda Naval Hospital for not going along with the plan and being sick of the plan.]

Richard C. Leone, "is President of the Century Foundation, (formerly the Twentieth Century Fund) a public policy research foundation. "His analytical and opinion pieces have appeared in The New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, Foreign Affairs, and The Nation. Mr. Leone was formerly chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey [that rush sold the WTCs to Silverstein] [9-11 connections as well!?] and State Treasurer of New Jersey. He also was President of the New York Mercantile Exchange and a managing director at Dillon Read and Co., an investment banking firm."

The Retired General Gardiner looks so happy talking about how blithely this is being done without Congressional approval though their tacit standdown approval by doing nothing toward impeaching Bush for these crimes. The retired General positively glows about a previous illegal unauthorized attack on Iraq ("started up in 2002" he smiles--Wolf attempts to interject with the "official justified story" and stumbles over himself doing so), though the General glows on about Iran. Wolf brings up psyops potential of this story and the General sort of looks nervous and crestfallen, as if yes, the whole thing was psyops.

And it's strangely being reported that the U.S. Senate despite having a majority of 56 out of 100 Senators for reinstituting Habeas Corpus, "failed in getting it passed"?! With 56 outof 100?

Sounds like success to me.

They are implying it takes "60 to pass" (sic) because of the potential of filibustering. However, that's just potential and not really occurring. So, why not force the traitor Republican neocon supporting Senators to filibuster and stand up and show themselves to the world as defending Bush's criminality?

The Democrats didn't really want to vote on it either since it was only procedurally voted on to attached restoration of HC to a defense budget bill. A majority supported it "procedurally" so attached, though none of them want to really stand up and support it either!

List of who was for and against an unchecked police state. You might include many Democrats in this since they don't want to really vote on it either or one would have introduced it in a more direct manner.

It was a nearly straight party line vote, one republican crossover (Sununu), to vote to restore it with the Democrats.

9/25/2007 03:50:00 AM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Oh I get it, all answers are bullshit. There are no appropriate criteria to separate truth from falsity because all humans are either pirates or peasants. So I must concede that, (human nature being what it is), any search for answers is simply the projecting of my insecurities onto the larger world. I feel much better now, head firmly between my knees, ready to kiss my ass goodbye.

9/25/2007 07:11:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Sounder..That's closer to the truth than you realize. I often get the question asked as to how is it possible that there are so many involved in this "conspiracy" and not one soul blows the whistle. The answer to that tough question comes in the form of Noah and the story of Sodom etc. The veil is lifting and all sorts have access to the truth. It's not just the righteous that get a peak when the curtain comes down.

Mark..The U.S. Canada and England form the Orwellian Oceania even though he doesn't state this as a fact in his fiction. Eurasia and Eastasia are left to your imagination to figure out.

Belliosto..Many of the constellations were placed in the heavens by Zeus in the "as above so below" sort of way. Since most of the heros came from Greek myth, one has to suppose that the Greeks had something to do with it. As far as the stars being a carpet or canvas of the past and future, it is a battle of good and evil for the 4d symbolism that can go either way. In other words, it is what you think it is.

9/25/2007 08:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I completely believe that there is a "de facto" North American Union already, so I must ask, why bother to formalize it when you can continue to take advantage of the largely fabricated disparities?

In otherwords, why ruin a good thing? Oh, I'm sure there's a doozy of an answer for that....I can't wait to hear it. Let me see.....if they formalize their little club and give it an official name they can more easily exterminate us.....but wait, if they do that, who will they manipulate and control? Why would they slaughter their Gift Horse? We are, afterall, the reason they thrive. We multiply their fortunes....we squeel like the pigs they believe us to be. It's not their interest to eliminate us. They have us right where they want need to rock the boat.

9/25/2007 08:24:00 AM  
Blogger ericswan said...

Shrug..If that's the case, then I want the vote. It's like everything in 3d moves freely across the 4d border except the 4d truth. The avian flu is free to travel and certainly all goods may pass but people, well, people are a problem. I suppose if I want real freedom I will have to reincarnate as a woodcock.

McCanney says there is a pipeline moving water out of Lake Superior through Minnesota to California. He says he saw the pipeline going in 25 years ago and it shows with the lake down more than 2 feet in the last year.

Irrespective of Mark's watershed concept, I don't have a problem with sharing water from place to place. Californians have been feeding us for a very long time and that's not going to change anytime soon.

My message to PTB is tell the truth and do what you have to do but don't throw up the police state to have your way.

9/25/2007 08:49:00 AM  
Blogger AJ said...

"..that can go either way."

I don't know Ericswan. I appreciate your point on dualism but the yin-yang ideas don't explain everything...not that anything else does.

I tend to see evidence that the reality of life supercedes the reality of {chaos} and darkness, otherwise how would {life} begin to exist in the first place?

Aside from Dr. Kennedy's political standings he ventured into an area that in modern times was anathama to mainstreet Christianity who forgot the history of Kepler and others and I give him credit for his courage.

Well said Bell!

9/25/2007 10:59:00 AM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Canada's water is on the trade negotiating table despite widespread public opposition and assurances by Canadian political leaders.

This is the same song & dance we see the world over.

American foreign policy is merely an extension of its domestic program, which might better be called a sort of domestication program. Ask the people what they think, thank them for their opinions, and then proceed to do the exact opposite, armed with a “public mandate.” We don’t hear much about the progress of the Missile Defense system overseas, but it plunges on unimpeded, regardless of public opinion.

In the Czech Republic, more than 2/3rds of the populace is dead set against the whole idea, for two reasons. One is political—they’re tired of being pawns between Great Powers. The second is more immediate and vastly more important, as we can see from this Current Concerns article on the Czech resistance to these installations in the small villages which will have to pay the ultimate price (The Czech People Say No to Uncle Sam--September 25, 2007):

Josef Hàla is one of the most active opponents to the anti-missile system. He organized a demonstration in which a few hundred took part. “I have nothing against the USA, but they should station their army somewhere else. The population does not want them. They are afraid,” he says. The mayor has saved space in the community paper for residents to publish their opinion. The April issue contains an editorial on the radar system and an article from one of the residents in which the effects of a 500-MKW-radar on human health are outlined. “Tremendous,” says the mayor, “because the waves it emits will have an effect on health, especially on that of pregnant women.”

He continues and quotes from letters received from residents of a hamlet near Prossnitz, Moravia, who reported numerous birth defects due to a Soviet radar system stationed nearby: “Twenty times less the power of the American anti-missile shield,” he explains. His officials are being kept informed on this issue. When this is not enough, the mayor is also approached on the street. “Last month, during the community ball, I was quietly forced to inform those attending about the state of negotiations between our country and the United States. The government is trying to cover up the truth and is lying to them.”

Funny thing here is that the Missile Shield program is proceeding anyway.

As over there, so over here.

It’s a tangled web that is not easily reduced to some simplistic Official Story vs. Conspiracy Theory either/or proposition. When Shrub and Richard dismiss the sensationalist doomspeakers as uninformed, or childish, etc., they might be correct, insofar as these particular prophesies don’t pan out, but that doesn’t mean that a vast conspiracy is not underfoot.

Are decisions and policies being undertaken in secret, despite the “will of the people”? You bet; they always have been. The rich & powerful have always controlled the destinies of their subjects, through whatever means at their disposal, using whatever manuals that their advisors write or whisper in their ears, from Machiavelli and Bernays to Goebbels and Rove.

Have secret operations been carried out overseas to advance the interests of the Owners? Certainly—there’s a very long list of them. Have similar operations been conducted on the Homefront, and has the truth of both been hidden, distorted and dismissed by those “bumbling” agencies that we’re now told are too incompetent to handle the outing of a CIA operative or the political firing of US Attorneys? Also, quite true.

I remember a C-Span covered discussion of American foreign policy last August during which one off-script reporter was pestering the Washington Post’s Dana Priest (who claims to be “on our side” against secrecy in government, btw) about revealing which European countries were cooperating with the CIA by running secret prisons. The room went silent, the cameras zoomed in on Priest who was by then flashing a knowing smile as she channeled Katharine Graham verbatim:

There are some things that the general public does not need to know and shouldn’t. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows.

Now, the point I’m trying to make in saying all this is that Sounder’s approach is the only sane one: to ferret out the truth by examining the lenses through which we view things. Is it possible that the Conspirators are clever enough to discredit any potential opposition to their brand of “freedom” by engaging in a bit of limited hang out occasionally? Say, “leaking” the details of Phoenix and even Mockingbird in order to give the perversely (possibly even intentionally) loyal opposition enough rope to hang themselves with?

This goes quite a bit farther than Hitler’s Big Lie technique, as it involves hiding the truth in plain sight (okay, maybe not so plain), instead of the old stonewalling and straight-jacketing of that rarest commodity. Where the new program comes back onto the old track is in its ends: anyone who stands against them is indelibly dubbed with those permanent markers.

Disloyal, lunatic fringe, wild-eyed and gullible purveyor of falsehoods.

And what do we end up with? We know that the deck is stacked against the little guy, that Life Ain’t Fair, etc, etc…except we now accept these truisms because we think that’s just how Life Is. Nature is out to eat us; every man for himself—no one made it this way (or maintains it this way), it’s just inevitable.

This method is very nearly foolproof. You speak of monopolies, secrecy, manipulation, disinformation and Powers That Be…and you’ve discredited yourself.

Self-policing language.

Goebbels could only dream of such progress. Orwell, too, but he left us with that nasty image of boot stomping on a human face—forever, which is frankly just too much to contemplate as it applies to the real world of Free Trade™ and Democracy For Everyone™.

If anyone is interested in more information on those last two euphemisms for what our boot is doing to the world’s face—without any of those sensationalist conspiracy mongerers who make “ridiculous predictions”—this page tells a stunning story that can’t be refuted with the standard lunatic fringe labels. (Unless the truth of this stuff isn’t really what you’re after…plastering those labels is ever so much more entertaining, I realize.)


Thing is that it works better when we pretend we don’t live in a police state. That’s why they’ve kept the gloves on for so long now. We can pat each other on then back, talking about the joys of an open society and how vigilant we are in the defense of our freedoms. Life is much grayer under the gun.

9/25/2007 12:21:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

And now, if you'll bear with this interruption of our regularly scheduled miasma, I'd like to throw out something completely different, which comes at our take on the world from an alternate perspective.

Natural Style

"We commonly think of style as qualities of appearance, the choices of decor, of color, of accent, of all the appurtenances that are a part of our daily existence. Style is the means by which we express our choices as they affect the the world at large.

We might think that an individual has 'style' by his or her appearance and mannerisms. These traits generally stem from an established image, categorized by a 'way of life' as we are apt to describe it. Thus, by a selected integration of image, fashion and appropriate mannerisms, human style is born.

Style proceeds from what we would like to be. Society then prescribes images and the requirements for being a certain person with a recognizable style. We even categorize such styles: the romantic, the rebel, the conservative, the artist, the intellectual, the aristocrat and so forth. Thus, our society is fully laden with image and mannerisms--all part and parcel of the bestowal of style.

Nature, however, knows no style per se. Nature neither contrives nor follows images; it proceeds from truth and the immediacy of response. That is, nature is not concerned with image and mannerism. It is concerned with sensibility, efficiency, economy of methods and materials and the ongoing survival and evolutionary development of of its creations.

Nature is concerned with truth--with the truth of intelligent responsivesness, without any regard for the 'appropriateness' of appearance. Nature's living organisms are never the result of contrived image; the are the direct creation of the immediate circumstance of the environment, of function and purpose and all as an integral part of a vast, living order."

(Eugene Tsui, Evolutionary Architecture: Nature as a Basis for Design)

I would be taking liberties with Mr. Tsui's vision to add that Nature never whistles while it's pissing, but perhaps that extra sentiment might bring out the relevance of this passage to what we're talking about here.

Rock on, Sounder.

9/25/2007 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

IC, I looked at as well for the "Century Foundation" backgrounder. Small (e-)world.

More on the NED from a quote I remembered:

IMF Sponsored "Democracy" in The Ukraine
by Michel Chossudovsky


Among the numerous Western foundations, the [Orwellian named] National Endowment for Democracy (NED), although not officially part of the CIA, performs an important intelligence function in shaping party politics in the former Soviet Union, Eastern Europe and around the World. [NED additionally involved in funding of Venezuelan coup against Chavez.]

NED was created in 1983, when the CIA was being accused of covertly bribing politicians and setting up phony civil society front organizations. According to Allen Weinstein, who was responsible for establishing the NED during the Reagan Administration: "A lot of what we [NED] do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA." (Washington Post, Sept. 21, 1991).

9/25/2007 01:09:00 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Eric or Shrub, I don't think their attempt at a global fascist surveillance society is going to be moderated by your kind advice to the neofascists on what tactics you think will be more successful. It's going to come from people getting fed up with their bullshit:

REAL ID Revolt Spreads to 33 States
(Published on Monday, May 14, 2007 )

At least 33 states are pushing for laws or resolutions blocking the program, the Senate recently held hearings on its implications for civil liberties, and the Department of Homeland Security's own privacy department gave the initiative the thumbs-down.

List of RFID stuff news here.

Among them:

AP: FDA approved microchip implants linked to animal cancer
( Published on Monday, September 10, 2007 )
A series of veterinary and toxicology studies, dating to the mid-1990s, stated that chip implants had "induced" malignant tumors in some lab mice and rats.

Microchip implants cause fast-growing, malignant tumors in lab animals
( Published on Saturday, September 08, 2007 )
Damning research findings could spell the end of VeriChip.

What is interesting is that chipping leads to cancer, and I dare say "thankfully" since people being aware of the electropollution of chipping and RFID everywhere may lend some bodily concern to themselves or their children at last?--when abstract good ideas like limited government or concerns over a social tyranny have so far only provided a lukewarm wallflower response from the hive mind. Despite much larger levels of discontent, as Shrub said, when Pizza Hut is still open late, it's a different story.

I remember a quote from author Upton Sinclair: he said he wrote The Jungle (1906) aimed to familiarize Americans of the terrible immorality done to the workers in meat factories. However, all Americans (and the political elites) got excited and scared about was human-meat in their hot dogs drawn from his famous description of people being 'rendered' accidentally in meat processing plants).

He said of his readers, paraphrase: "I intended appeal to their their hearts, though all I did was hit their stomach."

"Fascism is cancerous" is a good thing for people to find out about sooner, than later.

9/25/2007 01:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, by all means, rock on you brilliant souls and be afraid, very afraid. It may not happen today, but it will tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow....or the day after that.....hell, it's going to happen, just you wait and see, and I'll be there to tell you I told you so.

And you have the audacity to claim I'm the one who is afraid and I'm spreading fear? Shit, if I didn't know better, I'd say you work for the Neocons where Black is White and Up is Down...cuz you sure as hell have this one ass backwards.

Understand who your allies are, for Christ's Sake, and give Richard and me some credit where credit is due. Sounder's sarcasm is the ultimate irony. His point was my point, but IC can't see past his incredible prejudicial view of me to have realized that and given me credit for my suggestions. Somehow, I have the distinct feeling that I wouldn't be welcome in IC's imaginary world. I would be executed, or in the least ostracized for holding opinions contrary to the orthodoxy....and that's exactly what it would become, orthodoxy, as it appears to be headed here.

IC, you do not have solidarity here, no how much you deludde yourself that you do. We may share certain beliefs in common, but that's a far cry from claiming we're all on the same page on what it is and what to do about it. In that regard, we are as fragmented as ever, and you don't help when you misrepresent me because you see what's convenient for you to see in me.

9/25/2007 01:47:00 PM  
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9/25/2007 01:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eric or Shrub, I don't think their attempt at a global fascist surveillance society is going to be moderated by your kind advice to the neofascists on what tactics you think will be more successful.

Really, you think so, Man? But wait, just a while back I told you what I think about a Nuke going off wouldn't change the outcome one bit, and you disagreed....sarcastically, I might add. Well, my dear Watson, you seem to applying a double standard here. either what I say or think doesn't mean anything to them, or it does...which is it?

For the record, I wasn't giving any advice to the NeoFascists. I asked a legitimate question. Why would they make the Union formal when they are doing wonderfully with it, informally? I'll answer...the same reason they don't legalize the drug trade.

9/25/2007 01:56:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Oh, alright, if I have to spell it out.

ET concludes:

"True style, in the realm of nature’s intentions, results from a life in observance of and sensitive to the desires of creative and innocent impulses and inquisitiveness—traits that we are all born with and which, throughout years of social and pedagogic conditioning, are too easily destroyed.

We have come to this evolutionary point in time knowing that urges of individuality and originality sustain and ennoble human life and that succumbing to the routine monotony, false values and vicarious pleasantries of a ‘civilized’ life only embitter our sense of well-being in all regards.

A life of escalating compromise turns us farther and farther away from the energetic inquisitiveness and actions of our own inner selves. It is in this inner domain that the movement of personal style begins to stir, for such style is, like nature’s living creatures, natural, exuberant and a beautifully imaginative expression of an intelligence that is true to life: true to the individual as nature has planned, and not to the reiterative conformist that humans have created."

Friend Shrub,

You're reading me wrong, fella. I was agreeing with you. I can see where you might have misconstrued my attack on those who dismiss CT as the province of lunatics, etc., but I didn't have you in my sights.

Further, I know you got all heated up there, but I doubt you really meant all those things you said. You're always welcome; no one would be excluded from an inclusive world, not even those who would seek to subvert it, with which group I certainly wouldn't lump you.

As to the part about solidarity 'n all, well, I don't claim to be on the same page as anyone else (except on a level so deep that opinions and such don't really matter), so that's okay with me, too.

Everyone should rock on and revel in the contentiousness that the exchange of their views causes, because at least in this way we're being honest...unlike those who submerge themselves in the monolithic flood of the party line.

We don't need to be on the same page about everything. I've had disagreements with very nearly every one of those with whom I share my opinions here; what harm has come from that?

(Btw, I do agree with you about the analogy between the illegitimate status of the NAU and the illegality of all gets back to that business about the difference between what we say and what we do, right? An unacknowledged monopoly--or fascist state is all the stronger.)


Have you checked out those further links at the bottom of that page, where they blow Amy Goodman's and NPR's covers?


You might be interested in Derek's book that I plugged upstream--fiction does have a funny way of being more 'real' than its sober brother, you know. (It's a lot like The Mothership, actually.)

9/25/2007 02:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IC -- I can prove that truth remains stranger than fiction with one link:

Sorry but Crash Gordon is too tame for me. My favorite novel remains The Third Policeman by Flann O'Brien (back when people could really write).

9/25/2007 08:18:00 PM  
Blogger Sounder said...

Hey Drew and Movie Girl, good to hear from you.

IC, thanks for that Eugene Tsui grab, I like the cut of his jib.

...... (most) all answers are bullshit. There are (very few, maybe none that are uncontested) appropriate criteria to separate truth from falsity because (most) all humans are either pirates or peasants. So I must concede that, (human nature being what it is), any search for answers is (for the most part) simply the projecting of my insecurities onto the larger world. I feel much better now, head firmly between my knees, ready to kiss my ass goodbye.

The added qualifiers produce the consensus opinion of many people that read Jeff’s site. (except for the human nature part, some may feel like me that it is about human habit rather than human nature.) The qualifiers provide a small window of opportunity that may be very important to us. The use of the universal terms; all, any are or simply, is successful sarcasm because it exposes the defeatist attitude of this one trick pony. It’s really a dead horse already, and people ought to stop beating it.

9/25/2007 10:41:00 PM  
Blogger iridescent cuttlefish said...

Okay, Drew--now you've completely lost me. First off, I said that fiction was truer than non-fiction, not stranger. Second, what's with the "when they used to know how to write" stuff? You do realize that's a Harold Bloom kind of statement, right? (And Crash Gordon is too tame?!) I have no idea what criteria you use to base your dim view of the current state of the scrivener's art, but I'd have to disagree (mightily, even. )

While it might be true that the business of publishing is straigh-jacketing an art into a commodity--I know, how shocking!--I could still name a hundred authors offhand who buck that trend and write what they want without resorting to the "standards" set by White House science advisor Michael Crichton.

Third puzzlement: what's with the "news" that China is a repressive regime? A slightly more novel approach would be to examine how the Chinese state is propped up by the velvet-gloved fascist states in the West, but the anti-communist rhetoric in your link is so Cold War that it actually works against the message of the intolerable conditions that obtain there. Yeah, I saw that stuff about Nancy Pelosi and those fearless Democrats really "pressuring the administration" on human rights issues in China, but the plausibility index sort of fell off there for me.

They are just so independent, so different from their Repugnant colleagues, aren't they?

I'm going to ask my Taiwanese friends about the whole thing, but I gotta say from my initial read that it reminds me a lot more of the angry Chavez-hating elitist exiles from Venezuala who live near me than any kind of Chinese White Rose society, which is a real shame...not to mention a glaring inability to describe a reality in living color and resonant language.


Didn't Nietzche get his insanity rap from trying to stop the whipping of the horse's eyes, as the guiltless nag was taking him to his eventual doom? I know about the rumors of syphilis and that the usual story finds him whipping the horse's eyes, but that's the Official Story again and that sister really was an evil bitch--you have to empathize with the guy with vision getting carted out of polite society, right?

(All our lives we sweat and save,
Building for a shallow grave
Must be something else we say

But seriously, Tsui has this way of redefining categories of thought & perception that you really would love. Unfortunately, as brilliant and well-written (and even received) as his books have been, you won't find them in your local library and they're very expensive.

I was able to finagle a copy of Evolutionary Architecture out of my local Uni library, but The Urgency of Change (which is apparently either bilingual or "half-written in Chinese") is only available from his website. I have a suspicion that this might also have to do with his unwillingness to compromise in any way, shape or form, which brings me back to Derek's Crash Gordon...Drew, you still listening?

Dude, it's bad, bad form (not to mention literary karma) to dis another writer in your circle's work. Unless you've read it and it's a total piece of crap and he's whoring his ass like Mr. Crichton, of course...but Crash is none of these. Not sure if your impression is based on his website or what, but I loved the hell out of that book. He took all the festering RI memes we've been tossing around here, gave them depth, life (even humanity) and then managed to somehow explore the Other Side while taking us on the existential roller coaster of life in the Zone of California between 1966 and 1982.

That's an accomplishment! (I also have to be impartial enough to report that reading this work of fiction got me very, very high--is this not a benchmark of note?)

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